Desert Runner vs Rock Crawler Off-Road Challenge - This New Jeep Gladiator Truck Rules Supreme!

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[@bobcat5412]

Great video. A fun comparison to be sure. I can't help but notice how slick and professional your videos are. Plus you add in a bit of humor with the pertinent facts. Stay safe guys and thank you. 🙂

[@bennettfoley3018]

this is a great description. Very professional videos, but we still have Roman having fun like a kid on Christmas morning during that last 1/4 mile run. Awesome

[@bobcat5412]

@@bennettfoley3018 I agree. Made me smile as he definitely reminds me of myself. You can see just how much they enjoy every moment.

[@natewilson6823]

Yes thank you for what y’all do! Btw I miss Motor Mt Monday’s!

[@300bhpton]

Bloody dreadful video, didn't they both get stopped at the same point on the razor rocks. Then proclaim one was 3wd. What a load of horse shit!!

[@dentman67]

The front locker didn't come into play on the razor rocks. He high centered with the Mojave you didn't on you're second try with the Rubicon. Different lines give different results.

[@marcnunes6916]

Ya I did noticed it was not exactly the same lines and he stopped where the rubicon kept spinning as well.

[@BigSam63]

This video is an advertisement for a single cab, short wheelbase gladiator

[@wrzl1675]

ssanderford63 completely agree

[@jedironin380]

We NEED the J6 Truck from last year's Jeep event! :)

[@lavrinnd1858]

Single cab, 6ft bed and 6 speed manual, I wouldn't hesitate to buy

[@norgepalm7315]

@@lavrinnd1858 despite how overpriced they are?

[@WORLDFAMECHASEGANG]

You can still put a hemi in the rubicon and switch the shocks and u good to go

[@jpmchausse]

Both jeeps had to back off and take another line on the first obstacle, " 3 wheel drive" or not. Seemed pretty even to me.

[@DaddyDog]

Right! Where they got the idea that the rubicon did better I don't know. Was the same for both...

[@Parityodd]

Also that seems like they wanted to take the worst path

[@Adventures_with_ole_dude]

That’s what I was thinking also. I say tie!

[@erickhart6159]

Both seemed to go fine when you didn't have the diffential beached on that same rock. You had to move both to the left to miss it and they were fine.

[@erickhart6159]

Plus one driver that just drove and another that moaned more than they drove the first obstacle

[@adamduncan4422]

I would buy the Mojave because both are too long to rock crawl but you can find open spaces to have fun off road. Plus the better suspension on the Mojave should provide a better ride no matter what surface.

[@dimassalazar906]

I have a 2023 Mojave and I drove a Rubicon Unlimited for a week. The Rubicon seemed to ride smoother. But the beefier suspension and frame was why I went with the Mojave

[@madieonmaus4290]

The only thing that really makes it tough for me to decide which I’ll get, is the fact that the Rubicon has the sway bar disconnect and the Mojave doesn’t. I freaking love that button. If there was an easy way to put that in later, I’d totally go Mojave.

[@jonman364]

@@madieonmaus4290 From what I've read, it is easier (and cheaper) to add Rubicon features to a Mojave than Mojave features to a Rubicon. I may add a front locker eventually, but I'm sticking to a manual sway bar disconnect as the electronic ones tend to go bad. The wife's JKRU had quite the flashing light show on the dash when hers went bad.

[@MrBillsfishin]

Nice review but that Mojave needs to be tested on desert roads with whoops vs the Rubicon to see how different it really is. Send them both my way and I will be happy to help!

[@nmtay]

4:55 "We're going to go right up the toughest part because this truck can do it" Truck: I can't do it.

[@chrismc.893]

I just want to thank you guys for all your videos during a time when our nation is under such duress. Just seeing the beautiful Colorado terrain and these amazing trucks is like taking a little trip to the mountains while being stuck in our homes. Thanks guys, you truly are a life (and mind) saver. God bless you all!!! 🇺🇸🔥👊🏼

[@Ozgrade3]

If there is is a silver lining to 3 weeks of lockdown, it's having plenty of time to binge watch TFL.....and of course Mr Truck. Simply the best automotive series on KZbin. Stay safe guys.

[@lavrinnd1858]

"Am I damaging anything" "nah your good" "is that the rear axle back there" "nah just dont look back" lol

[@AnissaEx]

haha right? "it's just a skid plate"

[@HoosierDaddy_]

Just a skid plate. Just like an oil pan.... A skid plate! Ripping the rear differential apart won't hurt anything! When your spotters just don't give a damn!

[@ebx2323]

Lmao!

[@ronsmith7880]

Thanks Roman n Andre.. Love watching the Jeeps..🏁 Stay healthy n safe guys.

[@strangeraceteam]

Great video! Helped me decide between a Rubicon and Mojave. When you talk about setting up the Mojave for rock crawling you don't mention placing it in off road plus mode. One of the advantages of off road + is that in first gear, 4 low, the front axle uses more aggressive braking to simulate a locking axle. You pretty much have to put the automatic in manual mode 4 low, first gear, because it shifts so quickly into 2nd gear. Still not a good as a locking differential, but better than not having the brake lock differential active.

[@rayred74]

basically you want a Rubicon with he Mojave's shocks

[@ldmtag]

And reinforcements

[@SSMJ]

And better axle housings

[@Rkbrown88]

The axles housings are identical. The knuckles are a different material. That is all

[@SSMJ]

@@Rkbrown88 I said I want a Rubicon with the Mojave stocks, the same frame reinforcements, and actually good axles. The rear will likely be able to be upgraded to 35 spline once the aftermarket catches up, but that front? Nah, that'll never survive 35s or 37s and going fast, the first thing that they need is a real Dana 44 front. Not some 2.75 inch axle tube Dana 35/44 Hybrid. We're talking 3in or 3.25 in tubes with a minimum .313 wall.

[@CaptainRudy4021]

@@Rkbrown88 actually the Mojave's axles are about an inch wider than the Rubicon's.

[@buttnakedjeepinggmailcom]

"No body damage. Just metal on rocks." My Jeep is a big skid plate. Good to know.👍

[@phoenixproductions5358]

That's funny cause I saw no skid plates underneath

[@drx1xym154]

@@phoenixproductions5358 - yes, I presume the camera angle was not the best ... not even sure how one could get a good angle on the underside, while rock crawling and not crushing the camera. Make the camera the "skid plate"!?

[@vegasxventures]

Thank you guys for uploading these during the corona pandemic of 2020. My father and I have been beyond bored the last few weeks!

[@oddjobstoo]

As a person that has been off-roading 45 years now, it is common for us to have many people out with us, with vehicles that have various degrees of equipment performance and limitations too, ranging from extreme capability to little/moderate capability. Regardless, everyone drives to the ability of their equipment and manages to get through ALL obstacles. The short coming of this video is to expect each vehicle to perform equally on a trail and taking the EXACT same line on an obstacle. A better consideration would be to alternatively say that we are simply going to go 30 miles in one direction and how a person navigates any obstacles along the way is up to them relative to how they feel as though their ride is/is not limited by any performance constraints. The fair test would be to compare notes after a 30 mile run and discuss the variations between both units. My guess is that both units have their strengths and weaknesses but are probably largely equally capable of getting the job done if allowed to play to their individual strengths and weaknesses. Then in turn the same comparable run should be done in the desert as well. My guess that in the end it should always be a coin flip where an end user needs to decide what environment represents the bulk of their off road driving and hence what vehicle spec best suits them in the end. I'd guess in the end there is probably a 90%-95% overlap in regards to identically consistent performance between the 2 different units.

[@davidreeves3396]

Or get a guy/gal who wheels to drive it for them

[@resistthesystem6145]

Exactly!

[@EDHBlvd]

When do you take them both to the desert to compare their “desert running” abilities?

[@badatsomerhing]

I don’t think they do Edit: spelling

[@kl-eu7iq]

Can’t wait to see the video where you run it in an off road high speed environment.

[@dannykrauskopf7404]

You guys Rock! always very informative with excellent videos!

[@denisleblanc4506]

I would go with the Mojave. I haven't driven either of them and don't know if you can make a solid axle vehicle handle well at high speed but if anybody can it would be Fox. In this video you could actually see how much smoother the Mojave was with the jounce stops and fox shock. Also, your comparison remains incomplete until you take them side by side in the desert at high speed. You guys take care of yourselves.

[@mechmat12345]

The Mojave should be smoother and more comfortable on road and at least 95% of the time off road when you're just cruising down the trail. It's a way better choice for almost everyone who's going to buy a Gladiator and not lift it.

[@mateopantoja4436]

@@mechmat12345 what if you did plan a lift? Why wouldn't you still get the Mojave?

[@antiantifans1914]

@@mateopantoja4436 after I think 2 inches you would need different shocks, so you would be getting rid of the expensive Fox shocks for that lift.

[@Txpo50]

@@antiantifans1914 they make a 4 inch lift that keeps the original shocks and allows for a 37 inch tire

[@haroldpatton01]

I like mine

[@harrisonfarnsworth4739]

This episode is truly a nail biter with the scraping and all but I really hope that trail becomes a regular in your series. Well done TFL Truck!!!

[@MDHenry4]

Thanks for the great sound editing and content.

[@AndrewBaker924]

I love all your videos at TFL especially these Gladiator videos! Keep up the good work! I enjoy your humor as well as others. I would love to have a Rubicon Gladiator soon. I just wish they could be a lot cheaper. Maybe some nice discounts after things get back to normal after this virus stuff? I understand Jeep has to make has to make some money. I wonder how much it cost to build a Rubicon Gladiator compared to the stock price that they sell them at.

[@joezephyr]

One of your best videos thank you! I love my Jeep ! ( a 2 door JL Sport S)

[@bennettfoley3018]

loving the content! stay safe out there in CO!

[@jonathanchan2536]

Really glad you all did this comparison. Was curious if the the Mojave could do it all or not!

[@mattg8116]

No one: Andre: Moohavay

[@josiahwillis6691]

😂💀

[@22jeepmojave75]

Over 40 years I wanted a Jeep but turned away due to bad rough rides but due to Mojave model, I finally bought one and I love it.

[@bobbymuy989]

Finally I've been waiting for this video!!!

[@bryman868]

I can't believe I wasn't subscribed!! I am now thanks for the awesome videos guys 👍

[@tylerbennett6485]

I'd love to see this same test done with the Power Wagon vs Tremor (7.3)!

[@Badkitty17]

I just bought a brand new 22 gladiator rubicon eco diesel , factory 3.5 lift , rough country bumper , half rack , running bourds .. rims , tires .. omg it’s gonna look great ! I can’t wait till it’s ready

[@donaldliverance2597]

If it had a Hemi it would outsell everything else on the market

[@miketess4272]

Donald Liverance An all aluminum, 345 would be nice!

[@johnclark6139]

oh absolutely, i’m seeing a lot of people rip out that MINIVAN engine and put in every LS and Hemi under and sun. still a cryin shame they took out the 4.0 from the running, it still had so much potential left in it, and are indestructible if you treat them right...

[@msterpeter1]

True it would be, but if you dont know Jeep cant put V8 in the jeeps or Gladiators because of safety issues ,they wouldnt pass crash tests. Last year the president of Jeep told on the news its not because they dont want to do it ,its because they cant.They know it would be a cash cow. After seeing the WAYALIFE videos and all their trips I can say its a great toy to own even if expensive

[@segwolfxviii2919]

Well your getting your hemi

[@johnclark6139]

Pierre P. yeah man, i can’t wait!

[@WW-wf8tu]

Good fun. :) Good test. Glad nobody got shot. lol And you're showing everyone it is ok to go out and live life even tho there is this COVID-19 situation. Would enjoy seeing a TRD Off-Road take the same lines as you took with these Gladiators. I am honestly surprised there was not a more even result over the rocks. Being high centered and or caught up should have the same outcome regardless of the front lockers. Push/pull work great going up something or through something as long as you are not high centered. I have had situations where a front locker would have been nice. But now that I have my TRD, never been an issue as CC figures it all out in a controlled manner.

[@joshnasche5495]

I'm ready to get me a Jeep Gladiator 😁👍

[@bigt4135]

Make a 2 door, manual, diesel please. Also a rubicon with the Mojave shocks would be awesome.

[@nicholasdunn3499]

Great video as always. I'd love to see a comparison between the Mojave and ZR2 gasser model.

[@sukran36lm14]

Thank you for sharing.. been watching different videos for mojave and Rubicon . Which one to buy..

[@traviskorda3262]

I'm changing the suspension regardless of what Jeep I get from the factory...although it would be nice to have multiple low range options (like w a twin transfer case) I'm going w the Rubicon all day and putting even BETTER high and low speed suspension under it!

[@mattg1544]

Definitely need a hemi option for all the wrangler and gladiator models

[@ChegOnoxGaming]

tommys suggestions "forward, just try it" yea just ram the rear axle into the rock more

[@TurboManiacal]

I think this video has me officially looking for a Rubicon

[@jaybou007]

12:43 Roman: "Andre, are you ready?!? Andre: "F*** YEAH!!!!"

[@problu9586]

Thanks for the fun video. After the pandemic, I suggest comparing those 2 awesome trucks on some real desert roads, Saratoga Road, Ibex Road and Harry Wade Road, just south of Death Valley NP. Maybe try the sections posted with deep sand warnings. BTW, have driven my stock 2020 2-door Wrangler Rubicon out there, so they are reasonably doable, before the deep sand sections, which I avoided.

[@user-gx2bs1vq7w]

This is why I laugh hysterically when Mike Sweers says the Tundra TRD Pro doesn't need a rear locker!

[@hotwheels2851]

Have you seen the "Mall Rated" badge? I've seen one on a hopped up Rubicon. Great video.

[@zackc3274]

Love the video! CAN WE SEE MORE CONTENT WITH SPORT S OR SAHARA (MODELS WITHOUT LOCKERS)????? More people buy those. JT or JL

[@cowboycody8094]

@ Fast Lane Trucks you should take these jeeps to the dunes in Walden where the Mojave should be in its element to compare them too.

[@shawnriddle3018]

awesome video. Need to go to Colorado sometime. Gorgeous scenery. You can get your Hellcat Hemi installed from Americas most wanted 4x4.

[@kingofallmen1]

Good job guys!

[@RyRyWags]

I'm warming up to the look of the Gladiator! 😏🙂

[@adamant7146]

same here...didn't like them at first but starting to grow on me....the only good looking ones from the factory r the rubicons and now the mojave...those stock tires on a sport just look horrible

[@cowboycody8094]

Now that I think of it it's honestly looks like all 3 past Jeep pick UPS all piece together in then given a modern twist. It has the fenders from the over lander from the fifties it has the name and some of the looks of the Gladiator and then it's a quarter ton like the Comanche.

[@charlesodle8595]

Didn’t like them till I seen them setting on 35s it better. I think 35s should be standard. Especially now to compete with the bronco coming with the 35s. Looking seriously into the gladiator for a family overland rig

[@mjsheets5936]

@@adamant7146 you nailed it.

[@ebx2323]

Same! Lol Been thinking of trading my tacoma in for the mojave.

[@ldmtag]

Colorado rocks is a great test but I'd also like to see that bearded canadian guy's offroad review. Oh, and also a Talking Trucks (never knew trucks could talk😂) episode on how to add Mojave goodies to the Rubicon (or a front locker to a Mojave, but it seems like a more difficult task since you need to reprogram the electronics to show a front locker on the screen and make it possible to engage it using the Rubicon's switch)

[@s.centralkeystone558]

Nice demonstrations and a great video as always guys!

[@tommyd1963ify]

I added reservoir shocks and King bumps to a 2 door 2012 Rubicon and it did so good the wheelbase was the limiting factor. I spend a LOT of time on/around the Mojave trail and would rather have good suspension than front locker/lower range. Price comparable shocks and bumps... I would rather buy the Mojave and add a locker/swaybar disconnects. The factory disconnects don't live long anyways.

[@S8BB]

Rubicon for sure in Wisconsin, if anything change the stock shocks for aftermarket and it’s just as good all around.

[@cavscout678]

Basically less of a desert runner, more of a desert fast walker.

[@crackpipejoe3508]

AKA JUNK!!!

[@techs1smh13]

@@crackpipejoe3508 just empty every pocket.

[@edgart49]

What are your options on the bent frames on these trucks?

[@navseal345]

Does each have different lighting packages? LED vs. halogen. Maybe do a night comparison.

[@scottmelunis9562]

the Mojave's front lockers auto engage when its put in 4L. You can see it when you open your Offroad+ app on the Uconnect.

[@willieguapo]

I realize this video is 3 years old. What you didn't try on that first test in the Mojave was the crawl cruise control which electronically makes the front axle a locker using the brakes electronics

[@vertstang123]

I was going back and forth between the two, I do mostly overlanding so they both would work. The dealer said Rubicons hold more value, so I went that way, a 2023. I'm pretty happy with my choice, but I;m sure I'd be just as happy with the Mojave.

[@loriegreen8840]

I love how thorough this video is... thank you both for doing this! I never thought I'd be excited to watch jeep comparisons & be learning about shocks, hidden or non existent ir whether the knuckles are cast iron or aluminum?😅 We're interested in the jeep gladiator for pulling a small teardrop trailer in the mountains & I love the look of these vehicles. I'm curious though...if one were just interested in this vehicle for something that's "fun" & very capable here in the rockies... do I need to get a jeep driving lesson first? 😆 I've never driven any jeep or done any slow or otherwise off roading. 🤔 My hubby isn't a car guy (other than function & looks) thinks the rubicon would be best for us - because of the hemi... but I'm thinking the mojave. 🤔 Any advice for us newbies?

[@pelewads]

Great vid. But in order to make this fair, you need to take both to the dunes.

[@06colkurtz]

Cool. Well done. Any day with Andre is a good day.

[@kylefoster8187]

Roman I think you’re opinion is half finished. They need to put a HEMI in the Mojave and they need to put the EcoDiesel in the Rubicon! That would be the dream

[@cwyoming7004]

I like to see them at the offroad park part of the speedway you guys use. Some whoops etc. Take care and thanks for the entertainment

[@coolmountainlife]

Awesome video comparison! Is this Rampart area?

[@justnicktv195]

I love when Andre shut the window on Roman at 13:28

[@BaracW]

Would love to see something like this for the Ford Superduty FX4 vs Tremor. What happened to the Tremor? I have seen very few driving videos of the Tremor from TFL.

[@steveyork8069]

Been wondering the same thing, that’s what got me to even check out this channel but it seems to be a forgotten truck of the fleet.My biggest disappointment with the Tremor is no long bed.

[@nicolettelowenthal8868]

Philly car show didn’t even have a Tremor in the building and I was there to buy it . Not anymore the POS Ford Rep gave me crap when I asked about one . More info on a tremor would be great . Thank you love the reviews 🙌

[@BigMikeRobinsonFJB]

BaracW the infamous death wobble the newer super duties suffer from ruined it for us apparently.

[@jabroni6199]

Yeah their Tremor coverage was very disappointing. One of the worst out of all the channels I watch.

[@danhambrick6331]

So buy the Mohave and add a locker up front and some sway bar disconnects.....

[@WORLDFAMECHASEGANG]

Dan Hambrick or get the rubicon and switch the shocks

[@sickjohnson]

The Mojave with the 3.0L diesel might be a step in the right direction?

[@wino9NINE]

try the Rubicon with sway disconnected in race

[@rickyenglish1391]

Jeep needs to come out with a model of combined Rubicon, and Mojave, and needs to lift for clearance, the best of both!.,both great jeeps great job!.

[@jeepinbanditrider]

2.72:1 is the standard low range ratio of the non Rubicon models. Been a pretty standard low range ratio on Jeeps since at least the 80s.

[@crumpb63]

Yep Jeep guys know this. Car guys not so much

[@mastercommanderdragonsir679]

“ Am I damaging anything ? “ If you have to ask, you most likely are.

[@maurosantos9850]

But are great versions... one more "dedicated" to climb rocks, other to "desert crossing at high speed". Great material. Just adding a wish from Brazil "espero que o inter perca".

[@SSMJ]

It seems like World Slowest Drag Races should be done slightly downhill on a paved surface. A lot of that 4:1 vs 2.72:1 debate is based on how well it crawls down obstacles without the brakes, not just how it goes up. It seems like removing potholes and other major interferences with the test would help compare vehicles that are more different, which might help with strange results like the truck WSDR that happened a month ago where the results didn't really match the driving experiences of the trucks. Just a thought, love the videos!

[@nevco8774]

It might be the upcomming parallel hybrid engines+electric motors for these trucks be faster especially on high altitude and/or more powerful than Hemi, and surely more fuel efficient. But we have to outlive to that day. Stay safe.

[@metallicablackend484]

Silly question... But best comfort in town and snow and ice here in Sweden? Rubicon or Mojave?

[@jjj4888]

IMO, the Mojave is trying to turn the Gladiator into something it isn't. A solid front axle, V6 truck just isn't a desert runner to me. The Rubicon is how the Gladiator is supposed to be, especially given equal pricing.

[@FRWD_FXLRST]

The 2nd gen Raptor isn't a desert runner?

[@johnnie5442]

Would themRubicon be better at towing trailers? Occasionally that is

[@maverick3248]

Good video guys, here’s a thought though. A type of Goldie lochs challenge. Rubicon Mojave and zr2? I feel the zr2 is a great bland of rock crawling AND high speed off road, but I’m curious how it compares in each segment compared to those two.

[@tracyc2695]

Thanks!

[@samslop]

I love my Jeep Gladiator rubicon

[@tommyd1963ify]

Bring them to the Mojave trail...We will show you guys around!

[@mbiker345]

How does a desert runner have a solid front axel?

[@SSMJ]

Google King of The Hammers

[@philllsxga.7737]

And a weak v6?!?!??

[@devinbender8428]

Seth Johnson i did. Most of the winners the past few years have been IFS. (5/8 last few year). And ifs murders the SFs in the desert section

[@philtripe]

@@philllsxga.7737 yeah grow up guys...most the time these package deals are just a bunch of stickers on an otherwise stock vehicle

[@CarGuy5141]

I wish they’d offer these with a 5.7L and 6.4L option and keep the 3.6L as a base engine.

[@Propelled]

You didn’t mention the different offroad mode and rear locker in high capability.

[@chansaicommerce1721]

AWESOME !!!!!!!!!!

[@albertreet]

can you put the mojave suspension on JL rubicon?

[@christopherbegley7779]

That looked like so much fun with both Jeeps. My question for you though is: Has jeep come out with or will they be coming out with the Scrambler?

[@danhambrick6331]

No.They have the Gladiator.

[@333jsh]

Yes

[@NIAtoolkit]

I'll take Mojave shocks on a Rubicon

[@jmj267]

No boof of them.

[@philtripe]

that makes no sense seeing as how rock crawling takes little or no shocks while "prerunning" needs tons of preload and no rebound

[@josephwhiskeybeale]

A cartridge casing in the tire treads? Must have driven through Denver.

[@a7xalterbridgerock]

It doesn't look like these guys like each other very much.. haha. Guy started talking at the 13:30 mark and the foreign fella just rolled up his window!! haha. Funny.

[@RobertKohut]

Nice!! More than just a decal.... :-)

[@rjejames28]

I think I would get Rubicon and run stock until warrenty is up then upgrade suspension small lift and put 35s on at that point. Thoughts ?

[@halvanhercke3321]

Yes

[@tomk5047]

So basically the rubi with king shocks and you're golden.

[@coolbreeze4626]

Oh man my but clinched when he pulled the top down.

[@Aeroroc51]

Neither made it up the first line on the razor rocks. Regardless of the lockers, both successfully navigated the rocks with a different line. Not sure why the comment was made about the front locker when both high centered.

[@KubanKevin]

I got the Rubicon and I was very surprised at how comfortable it rides. I thought it was going to be worse.