Jeep vs KTM - What's Better Off-Road: Two or Four Wheels? No Pavement Needed (Webster Pass) Ep.7

[@bwarren228]

I want to hear the rest of the list of motorcycles. Maybe pick up where Tommy cut you off!

[@ruimachado8560]

yea...and the stories too

[@WW-wf8tu]

I have in previous videos suggested that Roman do more of this. And those in the TFL crew that are motorcyclists. Plenty of us that have done the 2 wheel adventures on and off road can relate to their stories.

[@sourabhpurohit4140]

@@WW-wf8tu totally agree with you man

[@Buell1906]

Go ahead and tell us about your motorcycles. I wasn't bored!

[@Humble_saint]

Ik I was actually listening to his story before tommy cut him off

[@DaleEarnhardtsSeatbelt]

Yes this! I don't think they realize I alot of us watch truck videos for fun and for a new toy to haul our toys! I loved the bikes being featured.

[@Flying_Dollar_Motorsports]

Yeah I just picked up a used WR450 so I was interested in where that story was going. Geez Tommy.

[@CommieHunter7]

We love bikes!

[@Kevin-sr8yx]

Tommy: "Why are they bringing a highlander up here?" Also Tommy: "This week, we take a CR-V up Gold Mine Hill!"

[@R.Nelson]

BEST VIDEO YET!!!..Roman on a bike!!!...I turned this one up FULL BLAST!!Good job Roman!!🏁🏁🏁😃you as well Tommy!!

[@rik999]

11:39 - Hey Tommy a some of your viewers are avid motorcycle and mountain bike riders. Don't be so closed minded. Alex and Case on your staff ride bikes too.

[@ffl1409]

Y’all know it’s scripted right?

[@rik999]

@@ffl1409 Yes, probably true. But why antagonize your viewers, especially Patreon subscribers?

[@minivanmaster]

I think anything Roman talks about is interesting..... but yeah it's mainly meant for TFL's Offroad youtube channel now

[@shawntaylor1655]

Great video, I love that you added the bike. I am a motorcycle enthusiast and glad you incorporated the bike. I would love to see more in the future.

[@freedomisntfree_44]

The Ktm would be waiting at the top of the mt before the Jeep even started 👌🏽

[@chuckgrenci6404]

Some people ask me, why do you ride a motorcycle, and I say: If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand.

[@ES44AC-2]

Well said sir! Love motorcycle's.

[@generation-x406]

I say, because bugs are tasty 😋

[@chuckgrenci6404]

@@KLRJUNE Raced moto-cross in the seventies, currently on an FJR-1300 (but it really isn't what you ride, it's because you want to); enough said, or should I elaborate.

[@Digidi4]

I love it next time you guys should do the same trip with the suzuki samurai and an old 125cc dirt bike

[@BenLeBlanc1]

Nice video. A dirt bike is a pretty affordable way to get into the hobby. Maybe KTM isn’t the best example of that, but still

[@michelt4390]

The newer 690's are much more reliable (and less maintenance intensive) than the older KTM's

[@thwong37]

next time partner up with some more TFL riders like Alex (can Kase ride?); be cool seeing all the other off roaders/ATV/EV bikes etc.. Awesome seeing Roman step out his comfort zone, and start riding again. Thx Tommy NJ

[@dommm111]

Excellent video, I really enjoy it. Landscapes r breathtaking. Next year u have to do the original trip across the country, it will awesome

[@GabrielTeixeira91]

A Jeep Gladiator is not a choice for many people, motorcycles are the affordable way to go off road.

[@michelt4390]

And should you get yourself stuck somewhere... no need to call Matt's Towing!

[@regsparkes6507]

No Tommy, you are NOT a weenie,..but if you are I am with you,..anything over the reach of a 20 foot ladder, and I melt! Most enjoyable video,..and while I think of myself as a 'Car Truck Nut',.I also like 'Bikes'...so this video covered all the base's,...Thanks Guys!

[@carramrod7378]

The cinematography has really improved

[@texnorthman]

For the ABS - get the enduro dongle. At least on my 2019 690 that allowed the bike to be set in off-road ABS mode, reduced intervention in the front and no intervention in the back. Nice combo and you don't have to reset it every time you stop the bike.

[@nateirvision9266]

Yes, this is the correct way to go!

[@TheSteelArmadillo]

The motorcycle will always be superior. If you disagree, I assume you haven’t ridden off-road.

[@AgentXRifle]

Not always. Add lots of mud/rain and a 4x4 will destroy it. Other then that though, bikes ftw

[@michelt4390]

Up until the time of year when there is snow or ice on the ground...

[@TheSteelArmadillo]

Michel T that’s why Baja exists.

[@michelt4390]

@@TheSteelArmadillo I'm about 3,400 miles from Baja... kind of too far for a quick weekend ride ;-)

[@kevinblock2307]

Great video guys - loved the “ok I’m boring you” comment to Tommy 😀

[@JDelta87]

I would’ve liked to hear you talk more about your past bikes!

[@SWAMPDONKEY662]

A dual sport addition to the channel would be pretty sweet! There are dual sport clubs in every state. We just had a ride in Mississippi called Pigs in the Forrest.

[@meandkg]

best answer? put the motorcycle in the back of the gladiator and have the best of both worlds, when you want them

[@woffordsoverlandjourneys8618]

Some people never think about deep descent from mountains and Slick to rain in which the truck would probably have the advantage!! Didn't know Roman could ride a dirt bike he is really a man of many talents!!!!

[@backroadreviews7353]

It just seems if you're going off road that a motorcycle or ATV is the better choice especially in the eastern US. I don't understand the excitement of putting along in a big Jeep/truck of any kind.

[@hankhill981]

Hey I’m wondering if anyone can help me out for towing I used an suv for my 2 horses and my adventure mx II horse trailer and I’m looking for a cheap truck with low miles that would be able to bumper pull like 8000 or more pounds I would imagine realistically the horses and trailer would be around 5500 to 6000+ lbs but I would like to have a truck that can haul more incase I ever get a new trailer and or more horses so if anyone has any suggestions help me out

[@allanmoulton3745]

A bit of unnecessary drama there, bud. For most of the descent, driving close to the edge when you have 5 feet on the inside.

[@AnN-py2em]

lol I just cracked a rib, laying down right now couldn’t sleep well lol. Crazy how hard I could fall when I was younger and never get hurt, now.... not so much.

[@lifeoutdoors3953]

Amen to that

[@Riezig]

More motorcycles!

[@shawntaylor1655]

I also second the TFLMoto below.

[@TFLtruck]

Our new channel is TFLbike. Check it out!

[@badgerpa9]

Give Tommy a juice box and granola bar and tell us about the bikes you had, I was not bored. I had bikes but not the ones you have mentioned. Tommy is being pretty safe though that makes it easier to actually drive back home; not break something. Tommy should look at the electric motorcycles there are some dirt bike types that he may like and you can carry a spare battery to get back out pretty easy.

[@tireguymiami4911]

I want to hear about the bikes, come on Tommy !!!

[@wannabeangler]

Great topic to video! Pros & cons to both, but.........motorcycles will dominate off road 99% of the time........and cost tens of thousands less!

[@najthesavior4286]

A hover bike would passed both of ya and completed that trail in 5 mins Flat

[@jamesbeaman6337]

I know, right, and smooth ride, too.

[@CleaningMyGun]

The high video shots from your drone are spectacular. And Tommy, there are a lot of us who ride and love trucks AND bikes.

[@ricwestdoesitwork]

Awesome video! I will stick with 4 wheels though and just like Tommy food, drinks and A/C are the way to go for me anyway.

[@rickwhitmire7933]

Wow Roman you are the man!! Nice bike!! quiet the ripper!!

[@cbrider6267]

Thank you for this video. I'm living vicariously watching content of this channel.

[@exoplanetnomad]

I haul a KTM 6Day 300XC-W on my Jeep WK2 TrailHawk ... no other two brands go together like the Jeep and KTM!

[@DarthDainese]

I’m gonna have to stop this (ipad) and watch it on my tv I own a 2019 Multistrada Enduro, all I’d have to do is put a more off road tyre on and I’d be set

[@knobbiesshreaded3137]

Had the 690 when it first came out, it was a blast. Fast and a true Billy Goat. Yeah, water crossing can be an adventure, not so much when the water is clear and you can see the bottom. I think the Jeep gets an advantage as the rocks get bigger and weather turns nastier. Nice vid!

[@ruimachado8560]

great video...love the 2 wheels content...and love MX

[@chongorlz9716]

More dirt bike content please!!! Great video guys 👍🏿👍🏿

[@polkm7fromps3]

What do you think about the gladiator vs the disco II since you've driven both? I'm considering selling my gladiator to get a disco II for overlanding and offroading.

[@josemopar708]

What's up guys... so did you guys order the new Illinois truck or suv RIVIAN?

[@paulpetraitis2130]

Soy Boy could care less for bikes cause they take skill and cordination to ride. Yes please, more bike content!

[@desertaliend_b9840]

Hell yeah. Roman on a motorcycle! +100 guys points for you 👍👍👍

[@bmwloco]

Reminds me of my time in New Zealand. I was near Mt. Cook. Riding a R100GS BMW. Sign says "no rental cars beyond this point".... next sign says "we really mean it, no rental cars" and as it got higher and rockier, I kept riding as far as I could and came upon a Sobek van. Looking over the berm, I saw the glacial water in electric blue among the basalt (black) rock. Amazing. A moment or two later, I guy behind me says "how did you get up here?!" I said "rode my bike". He said "I paid over $2500 for the same experience with Sobek. I laughed and rode on.

[@kevinvoyer5053]

I don’t care what you say a good even street legal dirt bike can go places the best street legal 4x4AWD will ever go! I spent 2 years 6 months at Ft. Carson in Colorado Springs, where I got to take advantage of hundreds of miles of wilderness trails, old mine switch back trails, all between Manitou Springs to Cripple Creek, Victor, CO. On the other side of Pikes Peak and Cheyenne Mountain. Where some of the trails were actually 4’ across, with a hill on one side going up at a 40-45% hill, to on the other side a 500’ drop to the next tree/rock to stop you! Especially on that bran new state of the art dual purpose bike! Hell back in the mid 70’s, I was actually riding that bike grand dad! That was called a Penton 125 ISDT, barely legal on the street, but one of the best trail bikes made back then.

[@rooster3019]

Looks like VERY WEILL MAINTAINED public forest roads to me. The Highlander soccar mom mobile will have no problem at all.

[@estarszak]

sweet video guys. I ride a Suzuki DRZ400 and drive a Titan. I'll be on the DRZ anyday. In my neck of the woods...try the Transfer Trail. peace out

[@chefdan87]

Im in the middle. I prefer 3 wheels. I'll take a Honda Big Red 250 over just about anything. I've had several dirtbikes and 4x4 atvs and my fullsize offroader is a 94 Bronco. But i have never had as much fun with any of those that i have on my Big Red. Its the only one that i have never sold and replaced.

[@jamescharles8663]

Really enjoy these videos ! Continue to have fun and be safe .

[@ES44AC-2]

I love motorcycle's better than Jeep's. Not a Jeep hater though. I want a BMW 1250 GSA next or a KTM 1290 .

[@rickyloganjr.2362]

Tommy, I too 🙋🏽‍♂️ am no fan of heights, I truly understand where you're coming from, not a weenie friend. I watched this episode on my TV, but to actually be on that shelf road, nope not for me, none of that. Spectacular area around you though 👌.

[@mikefoehr235]

4 doors and a roof way better than a bike. You have heat, AC and total comfort. I had a Honda big red 250 R but when you get older...truck or SUV Is way nicer.

[@CommieHunter7]

Don't smack talk the crossover/suv crowd! I wanna encourage folks to explore with the gear they have. People should know their vehicles limits, and ideally not get stuck and block the road, but most vehicles will get people to a lot of trailheads, a lot of mountain views.

[@texlee1640]

The bike almost always wins off-road. It's three to four times faster, more nimble, more efficient, has a smoother ride, it's more rewarding due to effort, and I truly believe that you take in your surroundings and the overall experience more on two wheels than you do on four. I always choose the enduro/dual sport/ADV bike over the 4x4. I hope to see more two wheel off-road content on this channel in the future, but odds are they will just make an umpteenth channel for it instead lol.

[@duncdunc76]

My take. There's a good bit of crossover between truck owners and motorcyclists so the addition of the moto was ok. And although anyone who does both my think the comparison was silly, any newby might find it interesting. Anyhow the vid content fits within TFL truck considering that your comparing a truck to the bike in terms of off road prowess and usability/versatility imo.

[@teop7887]

What is the point of comparing a truck to a motorbike, off-road... If anything, one complements the other: Take the truck to remote areas with the bike on the bed, unload it, have your fun, load it up again, drive home safe and cool. Kind of a nonsensical video if you ask me... At least the scenery was nice.

[@perpelle]

There's no comparison, a bike (preferably an Enduro) goes to places a car never can. An Enduro even gets you further then walking. I ride Enduro 3 times a week but this content doesn't interest me.

[@woolengrappler]

If you’re looking to explore light, fast and cheap, a dual sport is the way to go. If you live father away from good trails you can even trailer, or load the bikes in your truck bed for the best of both worlds, use your truck to cover highway miles and use the bike for the off road miles. The biggest downsides of the bike are lack of storage capacity and inability to carry multiple passengers like family and friends for trips.

[@evankatz2893]

Another superb video By Mica @Mica All The Best To you Both. Evan From New City N Y The Empire State!

[@stefanhansen5882]

Awesome episodo! I am trying to decide whether to buy a bike or a 4x4 for a road trip around Europe, some of it with a passenger. Would it have been possible to ride the bike where you went here with a passenger on the bike? Thanks!

[@jaytate491]

I've been giving serious thought to the trans America trail or the continental divide trail on a motorcycle. I'm torn on the best bike to get. I've giving some thought to the KTM but worried about reliability over thousands of miles away from the rest of the world.

[@CommieHunter7]

Would love to see the 690 vs a fast off-roader up red cone. The 690 would slay! Speed off-road is almost always the domain of the dual sports.

[@ffl1409]

Not a Tommy apologist - but too many people that don’t know how a script works are up-in-arms. Maybe they had one too many spills...

[@UltraSS-nj8kd]

Dirtbike is way better to me. But Roman nailed it have to ride with other bikes it even hard to ride with other quads or SxS either. Need to do a long term on the ktm 690 i have all the strict off-road enduro ones but looked at the 390 duke but worried about reliability

[@dookiebooger9967]

I've always wanted to see a top gear style race with a dirt bike vs a rally car vs a monster truck

[@humbertogonzalez7505]

Roman’s gotta put Tommy in his place and show him who’s in charge! I wanted to hear more about Roman’s motorcycle stories.

[@Captndarty]

More more more. I’d much rather watch TFL ADV bike.

[@dougterhune9364]

More bike content would be cool, I have an F250 and a bike! Why is Tommy so cranky? 🙂

[@atfsgeoff]

The Venn diagram of people who dig trucks and people who dig dirt bikes has a surprisingly large overlap

[@ComsiCaterpillar]

Jeeps are for married men with kids a somewhere to be Monday morning. Motorcycle are the coolest personalized motorized terrestrial transportation by far

[@SierraADV]

That's so cool how you took a built jeep and a dirt bike on a dirt road. They handled that dirt road so well! Just for fun, you should take them both off road some time.

[@SierraADV]

That's so cool how you took a built jeep and a dirt bike on a dirt road. They handled that dirt road so well! Just for fun, you should take them both off road some time.

[@nycmaster]

Not sure which would be better off-road, but both would need a Tundra to tow home ;)

[@jjustj]

10 min in, " ride with other dirtbikes" we had trials bikes in Moab loved going with friends in a jeep as they could be our sherpas and take all the food for lunch and water etc. sure we waited for them but with Trials bikes its easy to play while you wait, did i mention added fuel they would carry for us? 18 miles about per tank isnt alot. Ride on, or Jeep ON!

[@marlenmartinez866]

dude stick to reviewing trucks . leave motorcycles for real bikers. it is great that you like motorcycles but just dont

[@carghai9235]

Jeep if you have the money or want to go overlanding, Bike if you want "cheap" off-road.

[@efs83dws]

Roman, good job on the bike. Obviously you are experienced.

[@Kevintherubiconjeep]

Would be awesome to run that with my 1290 KTM SAR.

[@tearfulharlot9393]

You can't be a gear head and not be into all motorized vehicles. Including motor bikes

[@DiegoLuiz]

First video I watch on this channel. Very nice work ! ps: your dad is cooler than you !

[@destinjacobs9414]

I'd love to see Tommy and Roman ride bikes together please guys

[@machfive916]

There are a lot of truck fans that also own motorcycles and would really like to hear Roman's list of motorcycles!

[@lifeoutdoors3953]

We go places on bikes here where you almost can’t walk lol look at graham jarvis.

[@wade7959]

Enjoyed the content. Good job at the part of the trail with some pucker factor!

[@jirilzicar5995]

You should be able to put two fingers between the top of your eyes and the top of your helmet visor.

[@rynoopperman5010]

Hey Roman you are unfortunately little out of date Dual sports have Offroad ABS maps that actually brakes better than turning it off We tested it with KTM Adventure, GS 1200 & Tiger 1200 Offroad ABS works exceptionally well...

[@TFLtruck]

Not this 690 Enduro. Roman says he’s well are of the off-road abs. He recently reviewed the newest BMW GS

[@mbjeepcherokee5542]

Dual sport FTW! Way more fun than doing that in the Jeep.

[@CraigG21]

Sweet bike - I have a 2014 that looks very similar!

[@hsjawanda]

I was very interested in hearing Roman's bike history...

[@user-cx5rs2ho9r]

690 is not a dirt bike and gladiator is not a truck.... change my mind

[@sgt.beanpole9669]

I wanna see some last gen ford ranger content here! 2011 fx4 anyone?

[@jjustj]

What? no mention of red cone??????? arghhhhhhhhhhh! now thats a triail on a BIKE!!!!!

[@gamergeek8933]

dirtbike all day offroad. can get places a jeep wont even fit.

[@chandrachurniyogi8394]

don't have a father anymore, that's why i guess!!!

[@holmesqualityproducts]

Adding the Enduro was a nice change of pace

[@carlov.3017]

NICE!!!! Roman on the Enduro!!! More motorcycles!

[@RichDunn]

Driving the Jeep is like watching a movie. Riding a KTM is like being in it.

[@carghai9235]

both are fun!, but bike is VERY SCARY