Jeffery Dahmer Thirst Traps

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[@bribird7008]

It’s so sad that the killers are celebrated and given so much attention, and the families are constantly traumatised and the victims aren’t remembered. It’s so dangerous too.

[@cubbleshasreturned6968]

Seriously and every time these "adaptations" come out the victim/their family always get harassed or blamed for it

[@spacecadetkaito]

I think if someone i knew died because of a killer, i would be even more angry if any of these serial killer documentaries tried to focus on them and give them attention. Like they're making them famous for the worst thing that ever happened to them. I wouldn't want complete strangers talking about me and knowing me as "that poor person who got raped and murdered by a freak" and have them knowing all the details of my worst moments. This is why i hate most true crime in general.

[@bandamani]

@@spacecadetkaito it would be nice to just hear about the person, who they were, what they did and what they brought to the world. it would humanise them and then maybe it would deter SOME of the assholes who are completely disregarding their families feelings in this whole thing

[@cielhigh4401]

YES FR

[@minawasnthereyet]

Yeah and it's also really disrespectful to the victim's families

[@evafergie]

T - is it true? H - is it helpful? I - is it inspiring? N - is it necessary? K - is it kind?

[@ratb4st4rd30]

huh

[@froggy5748]

Man I remember this being on signs in every classroom I was in growing up, I used to think it was annoying but people really need to be taking this shit to heart

[@heyy1829]

If that was a rule for all media it would be pretty boring

[@ImGonebabyyyy]

Or even better you can ask these people to: T - fucking stop H - romanticizing a Man I - who killed multiple N - people Turn yourself K - into the police right now.

[@pamelaross9328]

@@heyy1829 in cases like these, I think it’s pretty easy to understand why media is better boring than harmful but whatever

[@ari1758]

“Jeffrey Dahmer” and “thirst traps” are two terms I do not want to hear in the same sentence. Honestly the fact that the show was made period is just insulting. There has been such a complete disregard for his victims it’s disgusting. The victims families should not have to go through this. Disgusting.

[@GOUdamn]

I haven't seen the series and never will, the whole "let's make a movie from the point of view of the killer/rapist :D" trope has never appealed to me, and I always feel they minimize the victims, as if they were just an Inconvenient for the "protagonist". Like you said, disgusting.

[@sk8aintstr813]

@@GOUdamn the show doesn't sympathize with Jeffrey.

[@ari1758]

@@sk8aintstr813 I know it doesn’t, but just think. The families weren’t even contacted about this show. They had to watch as the man who killed their loved ones became a viral sensation in the internet because of a Netflix show meant for entertainment. They had to watch their pain and grief be turned into entertainment. How much do you think that would hurt?

[@kerri6011]

yeah a few white parents have dressed up their young kids as Dahmer, one even went as far as putting a bucket filled with bloody prop human hands and feet painted with black skin

[@sk8aintstr813]

@@kerri6011 you are kidding.....that is beyond horrendous

[@froggerrr]

My Grandma was nearly a victim of the Genesee River Killer, it’s not cute. The way she describes it always gives me the chills. She says it was the scariest moment of her life.

[@georgia6947]

I’ve never heard about that monster, but your grandma is a total badass for even being able to retell her experience in any amount of detail. shame on the people who capitalise over others trauma

[@Dankster-yo8xv]

My cousin was killed by him in 89

[@Olive78-w]

Shawcross?? The only reason I ask is because I'm from Rochester. I work 2 houses down from where he lived.

[@froggerrr]

@@Olive78-w yeah, she was walking back from work and he chased her till she was able to get home

[@Dankster-yo8xv]

@@Olive78-w yeah I'm also from Rochester! Good to see we actually exist lol. But yeah shawcross killed my cousin frannie brown in 89. The Netflix series had a clip of my family's funeral for her

[@unknownperson-pt5ky]

honestly its really gross to see people romanticizing him. Also I live in SE Wisconsin and kids were talking about the documentary when it came out and asked my teacher if she was going to watch it.. she then proceeded to say that one of her friend's brothers was one of the victims and it just showed how real of a thing it was but the kids just continued to talk about it in front of her and it was so disturbing and disrespectful. I feel bad for her

[@areeba7045]

whoop their ass NOW

[@kraziiXIII]

When Criminal Minds came out we were talking about the Co-Ed killer in front of my aunt when she told us she knew one of his victims. The horror on her face in that moment completely changed how I view true crime media as a whole and how I engage in it. There is never enough focus on the victims and their lives and I try to avoid media that doesn't center the victims and their families.

[@ummeow7271]

thats very sad. and it annoys me how much kids think jeff was just a “movie character” 😢

[@epicleak]

@@ummeow7271 there’s literal CHILDREN dressing up as jeffrey dahmer in ROBLOX. A CHILDS GAME. all because this sick sad story keeps getting brought up

[@Khachao_]

Same thing here I asked one of my neighbors if she had seen it turns out she had met him at one of the clubs he went to and I just looked at her stunned and I couldn't believe it. Also turns out one of my other neighbors knew the landlord of the apartment he lived in and on time met him because he was sent to give him an eviction notice. This is all too real a thing that people should not be 'simping' over it's just sick. My neighbors were lucky that they weren't the victims he was looking for but it truly is hard to think about what could've happened.

[@wicked1143]

I witnessed a man take the life of another person when i was a little girl. The most traumatizing thing i ever went through, and i had to go to therapy. Thirsting over killers does not make you cute and quirky...i'ts sick. The poor families of the victoms:( They deserve so much better.

[@rose-gl4io]

I'm so sorry you had to witness that. I hope you're doing better now.

[@wicked1143]

@@rose-gl4io thank you:) it was tough, but i'm getting better

[@TheRealOceanicDreams]

@@wicked1143 I can only imagine how horrifying that was. I’m glad you are getting the help you deserve and having a excellent recovery. I hope everything continues to go well for you! - A random stranger on the internet

[@wicked1143]

@@TheRealOceanicDreams Thank you. Although i feel bad for the children. They have to grow up knowing that their dad took the life of their mother.

[@TheRealOceanicDreams]

@@wicked1143 That’s even more horrifying… I truly cannot understand why some people can be this sick and twisted to do such a deed.

[@Pigeonfox]

It’s ok to kink shame Jeffrey Dahmer fans

[@b3nnefits]

This ☝️

[@SharkFinsXD2]

YES

[@lapnis_6756]

Kink shaming serial killer fans/ simps is my kink

[@SharkFinsXD2]

@@lapnis_6756 based

[@lesbianbbg]

I usually never kinkshame but there are exceptions..

[@iTzNikkitty]

"I hope I meet him in heaven if I'm able to get there." Well, I hate to break it to you sis, but somehow I'm pretty sure you're not gonna see Jeffery Dahmer in Heaven.

[@ShinigamiComplex]

He became a born-again Christian before he died, so if you subscribe to that belief system he's up there. 🙃

[@vl4ke]

@@ShinigamiComplex according to you.

[@rose-yeah]

Sorry but you are not god. You did sins and gif may forgave you.

[@cosmosisrose]

@@vl4ke not just according to them. it’s a real belief a lot of people have

[@ShinigamiComplex]

@@vl4ke 1. It's a documented fact that a dude proselytized to and baptized Dahmer, who then claimed to be a born-again Christian. 2. If you believe (which I do not) that the only way to heaven is to believe in Jesus and repent of your sins, Dahmy there checked both boxes before getting shanked. So say the born-agains, not me. 🙄 Edit: I'm not here to debate theology, I don't care that your specific flavor believes murder is an unforgivable sin. All I'm pointing out is that there are other denominations/sects/whatever out there who believe it is, and are on record saying that Dahmer is up there.

[@embearry]

"gave them quick deaths" he literally tried to slurry their brains to turn them into slaves

[@barneybutwithglasses]

HE WHAT I DIDNT KNOW THAT

[@erenjaeger6125]

@@barneybutwithglasses GORE WARNING for what I'm about to tell you, not for the faint of heart!!!!! Yeah he literally drugged his victims and drilled holes through their skulls into their brains. And then after they were dead he would pose their bodies in grotesque/unnatural positions and take photographs for his own "pleasure." Absolutely revolting. Dahmer was probably one of the most evil, cold-blooded people on this entire planet.

[@pinkdelicious655]

Oh who hasn't lol

[@sadguy9250]

@@barneybutwithglasses yeah the idea was if i put acid in his brain by drilling à hole in the skull to see if it would melt the brain enough so they could not flee but would still be alive feel and see everything he did never work thank god (That evil bastard said i wanted to make slave sex zombie) people still think he never wanted to hurt people like dude...

[@mjsummer177]

Out of all the horror I have read and watch this one sentence is haunting me to the core🧍🏿‍♀️ I hate ppl

[@nyanpegasus3276]

TW: Mention of Serial Killing and violence against poc There was a serial killer RECENTLY in KANSAS CITY. The community was begging the police to investigate and the cops brushed off the idea that it was a serial killer, likely because the people going missing were young black women. They got him, arrested him like last week because one of the women escaped and got help. This shit makes me hurl

[@josiemalara7804]

yo what? i live in kc and haven’t even heard anything about this, that’s crazy

[@riley2243]

i heard about this and that fact makes this so much worse. i unfortunately think that this serial killer will get exposure too in a few years and i am not looking forward to it. at ALL.

[@halleyvogts3935]

Thank you for mentioning this!! I also love in KCMO and the way the news outlets and cops didn’t do ANYTHING when something could have been done to prevent more harm it makes my blood boil.

[@LacroixboiMarx]

Yea I heard about that. Absolutely insane. It reminds me of the child trafficking thing happening here in Milwaukee back in 2020, where the community (mostly Black) had to rescue the girls because cops didn’t believe them even though there had been several missing kids. The cops snuck the dude out the back and brought out the riot shields on the community. And not a peep since. Fucked up.

[@ManWithTheMagic]

I am disgusted. I feel so bad for all the victims. This shit is disgusting and I'm so tired of people glorying the killers. The fucking monsters.

[@veefold]

Even the father of Jeffery Dahmer said that Netflix was glamorizing his son and that it shouldn't exist

[@lunanatsu]

Wait isn’t his dad dead?

[@Starryhavenx]

@@lunanatsu his dad is actually 86 rn, I thought he would be too tbh.

[@eo0-g9j]

@@lunanatsu nah he is alive

[@kurinthekitty6842]

@@Starryhavenx It's his mom who's dead Since 2000

[@Kiki-wr8je]

I heard he’s trying to sue Netflix

[@BearWasAlreadyTaken]

And the funniest part is that these girls are thirsting for a serial killer who didn't even like women.

[@sadguy9250]

Yeah and they say shit like maybe if a woman took good care of him he would of been okay like bitch he gay

[@Pomni3477]

I can imagine a thirst trap that goes like this Girl: "I'd be a man for you"

[@just_a_rebel8261]

LMAO RIGHT

[@mjsummer177]

💀 wait what

[@neptuneex_]

@@mjsummer177 yeah, he was gay. you didn't know? his sexuality was one of the reasons why he was the way he was, with how it's always been repressed, if it wasn't this way, if he got therapy, this would've been changed. mental health talk also was very stigmatized.

[@epicleak]

“ it wasn’t that bad “ jeffrey literally wanted to create human zombie sex slaves, DRILLED HOLES IN THEIR HEADS, AND TALKED ABOUT HOW HE LIKED THEM BEING CONSCIOUS WHILE HE DID IT WTF!!!!

[@epicleak]

also the fact that it’s mainly WOMEN FANGIRLING OVER A HOMOSEXUAL MAN LMFAOOO ITS SOOOO WEIRDDD

[@bubbles7520]

@@epicleak we’re concerned about that fact?

[@RobProb-X]

@@bubbles7520stfu

[@goldfishimpact736]

@@epicleak bruh if that was the only problem this vid wouldn’t exist

[@Transparente64]

@@epicleak he's also necrophile

[@eldritchteletubby9319]

I think that for the younger girls, it's the idea of "I can fix him" that's constantly told to women about "bad boys." For the older ones, it's a kink.

[@ManWithTheMagic]

Still not a exuse tho- (ik that not what you were saying) I've been raised in the whole "I can fix him" thing and I have never thirsted over REAL MURDERS. so those people just need help.

[@thethe4665]

I think it’s a fake quirk to compensate for lack of personality

[@cerseiuwu7031]

Idk why I feel like this tbh but I think for me its a kink(by the way im 19), it dont make any less worse, I know

[@waitahawhat]

Idk if it's cause I had a good father or what, but I've never wanted to "fix" a man. Either be a good person or I don't want you in my life. Why would I waste my time? Unless you're paying me $100 an hour I'm not being your therapist.

[@cenobite2309]

this whole phenomenon is giving me whiplash to the tumblr girlies who were obsessed with dylan and eric. it's always been such weird behavior and the so-called tcc don't think that they're doing anything wrong.

[@gagastardust]

they moved to twitter. it’s still really awful there unfortunately. and it’s like grown ass adults now too, like people proudly putting their big age in their bio. so gross

[@foreversimgirl828]

Yes the ones saying things like “I would’ve been their gf” like ??? As if you would’ve been spared ??? This is such a gross phenomenon

[@miglek9613]

@@gagastardust and also Tiktok. That hellhole is in many ways just Tumblr for the new generation of teenagers - Lana del Rey and the romanticization of abuse and pedophilia, pro ana and pro sh/sui, serial killer fangirls, etc, pretty much every trend from back in the day has moved onto tiktok

[@epicleak]

as someone who is a mentally ill teen , it’s literally just a bunch of other mentally ill teens forgetting that the internet is full of REAL PEOPLE with real feelings & that you can’t just say whatever you want without rational thinking even on the internet but what they’re saying is so normalized to the point where no one says anything and if they do it doesn’t matter because they have a WHOLEEE ASS cult to back up dahmer & their beliefs

[@deep_fried_midget]

Nothing weird about it. Women are hardwired to find killers attractive. The ones who don't are abnormal.

[@user-ji9if5gh2p]

it’s not the same as being related to the victims at all but my mom was a kid in the same town as him while this was happening and she was terrified hearing about the cases in detail at a young age and hates the fact that people are making media about him and painting him in a sympathetic light

[@SilliNikki]

My parents lived a few cities over, and they remember when he was arrested. It’s something that I have no interest in supporting, especially being so close to where it happened.

[@user-ji9if5gh2p]

@@SilliNikki it’s gross that they are furthering taking advantage of these victims for media

[@katelyn_xox0693]

My mother knew him before he started killing. It's so weird

[@OGimouse1]

The only sympathy they try to instill in the series is that if he had lived in a family and society that took mental health seriously, he might have gotten help when he asked for it. And that's before rhe backdrop of homophobia he was up against.

[@thaliafuqua1579]

It’s not the same but that’s still completely valid and scarring. I’m so sorry your mom had to experience that 🙁

[@graciebug614]

One of my classmates showed major red flags of fan girling over him and when we pointed it out she said “chill, it’s just a cool show.” Like no, it’s not. It’s people who lost their lives to an evil man and you think that the actor is hot and the killer is justified. What has the world come to for that to be so normalized?

[@LimeLoaf]

Bro Jeffrey Dahmer is the saddest thing ever Cmon he didn't get to play super mario 64

[@oopsiedoopsie533]

One of my classmate was like this too. She asked if i watched the show and i told her no and asked her if it was good she replied with "the guy was so cute".

[@charlievanvlijmen1063]

Obsessed with the person who's not sure if they're getting to heaven but is confident jeffrey dahmer is there

[@ShinigamiComplex]

Fun (but actually terrible) fact: some preacher went, evangelized to, and converted Dahmer before he got shanked. So if you're a born again...🙃🤢

[@ShinigamiComplex]

@CLOWNIE_LEMON "no" what? The preaching and conversion are well documented, and there are plenty of people who believe all sins are equal and can be forgiven if you repent to Jesus.

[@Ickymunches]

@@ShinigamiComplex thats so bizarre to me. You can commit mass genocide and then get baptized and pray, and youll go to heaven

[@nau3561]

@@ShinigamiComplex hows it terrible that someone gets saved

[@pidgedidge]

@CLOWNIE_LEMON sorry man but God will forgive anyone who truly asks. That’s how merciful He is.

[@allyb5111]

The sad part about Evan Peters playing this role was he didn’t want to. He was forced to apply and the producer told him he knows how Evan feels and told Evan they would try to hire someone else.. however nobody beat Evan and his performance. When Evan was forced to apply he told everyone, “I just want to play a normal role, nothing creepy. Maybe a romance-comedy.” I feel so bad for him and how he will forever be connected to this man.

[@jenseitz1473]

its ridiculous because ryan murphy has proven that he can do great work with fictional murderers so there was no need to make a series about a real life serial killer. and he knows EXACTLY what people it was going to drag in, considering most girls who watched ahs thirsted over evan peters and basically every other killer.

[@zQoQz]

was just thinking this. it’s unnecessary to bring more trauma to the people who were affected and to have the media glorify being a killer. i think because it’s true crime people are drawn into the story. but it’s been proven that you can write good stories without this much ignorance

[@noellethomas2589]

Richard Ramirez was depicted as uwu emo sexy boy in AHS. Ryan’s BEEN fucked up lmao

[@kerri6011]

@@noellethomas2589 that's true, wasn't there another serial killer in that season that was fictional? What's the point of including real people in the fictional series meant for entertainment

[@jenseitz1473]

@@noellethomas2589 AW SHIT i completely forgot, it‘s been years. my bad. you‘re right. fuck ryan murphy

[@clownlang]

Man could've just made a series about Jeff The Killer and it would've been 100 times better

[@venuss9534]

The way people have been reacting to this new series is exactly the reason why shit like this shouldn't be made in the first place. Yes, it's important to keep the public aware of atrocities like these but how many more times do we need to see serial killers Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer on the screen again, especially since the victims and their families have long been forgotten in these "adaptations". I used to be someone who enjoyed consuming true crime content, for the informative aspect, but the exploitation is gross. I support it if those related to the victim have approved it because it's an efficient way to get exposure, especially for those forgotten by society [MMIW for example]. A lot of the time, though, that's not the case and instead, they give these killers the attention they always craved and it's treated more like a story than a real-life event. Like I've seen people on Tik Tok brag about how they didn't flinch at the gore/that it needed more, people lack empathy so much it's insane.

[@rubybowditch8107]

You said exactly what I’ve been thinking about this whole thing. It’s genuinely so gross. I had to drop a friend because they were acting like the show was a horror movie, they were being so insensitive. I had no idea they were like that. The whole situation is just so gross and I’m tired of media giving attention to those monsters, it’s exactly what they want.

[@sukkisukkidaisuki6415]

What is MMIW ?

[@sixrats4560]

@@sukkisukkidaisuki6415 Missing or Murdered Indigenous Women

[@sadskunkape7366]

I totally agree. It’s nkt about “awareness” anymore it’s just people’s idea of entertainment based on shock factor. Like with Jeffery everyone’s like “oh he was misunderstood and blah blah blah” and i almost fell into this mindset, but I heard about the actual victims and their families and I think that’s what’s important. Yeah, Jeffery dahmer probably has mental health issues but making a show about him isn’t helping anyone. They need to make something for the victims. A show or something that allows them to tell their family members stories or how they were let down and discriminated by police.

[@deep_fried_midget]

Stop pretending to care about muh victimz.

[@Romanticoutlaw]

sometimes I feel a little bit psycho for being obsessed with fictional serial killers. And then I remember that there are people obsessed with ACTUAL serial killers and I'm not actually doing demonstrable harm like they are

[@ejakaegypt]

Get help

[@WhatExcellentBoiledPo-ta-toes]

I'm with you mate I'm a fan of horror movies. Big fan of jigsaw (the killer not that awful movie) but real serial killers I just don't get why people fawn over them. Sure I've found it interesting to read about them before but it always leaves me feeling off unlike horror movies which make me laugh most of the time.

[@Romanticoutlaw]

@@ejakaegypt in _this_ economy?

[@bluemountainw1789]

Because being obsessed with fictional makes you so much better than if it was non fictional lol

[@Romanticoutlaw]

@@bluemountainw1789 kinda, yeah. Whose families am I hurting by drooling over Mads Mikkelson's portrayal of Hannibal Lecter?

[@theboondoggliest]

there was a serial killer in my area recently, i can not describe how scared i felt before he was arrested. I understand being interested in true crime (as long as its still respectful to the victims), or being attracted to fictional villians, but people GLORIFYING actual real murderers confuses and disgusts me

[@erenjaeger6125]

Preach. Being in love with a fictional villain is an entirely different ballgame, because no one was actually harmed; it's just a fake character. Real-life murderers have brutally killed people and made their families/friends suffer and it's disgusting. Idk why it is so hard for people to understand the difference.

[@cz1754]

I feel like true crime documentaries can be very interesting for the educational edge to them, but when true crime events are turned into "docudramas" like the Dahmer show and certain elements are played up for dramatic effect, then it goes south. True crime docudramas often become so exploitative of the victim's families for the sake of shock value and views, and this is a perfect example of it.

[@theboondoggliest]

@@cz1754 i think documentaries also kinda portray serial killers as a character rather than a real person, kinda blurring the lines a little

[@jazzygirlforever1]

While watching the Dahmer series on Netflix I was conflicted. Evan Peters is so attractive but the things Dahmer did were so horrible. I think these young girls are confusing the feelings they get when they see Evan and thinking they are in love with Dahmer. Idk. I live in Wisconsin and now everyone is saying this is our way of getting on the map. I do not want the state I live in to be known just for a horrible murderer. My mom grew up with and knew the family of that 14 year old boy. My aunts friend lived next door to him and he talked to her. It's fucking crazy. Dahmer was a sick man that went unnoticed for too long.

[@meagtaylor3392]

I think (some) people may be conflating their attraction to Peters with Dahmer because, let's be honest, there is nothing remarkable about Dahmer looks wise. Anyone else I would feel bad saying that but given what he did...yeah, I don't care. And then there are people who genuinely think he's hot whether because of how he looks or (worse) what he did.

[@MegCazalet]

There are people claiming this Dahmer Renaissance is putting Wisconsin on the map? Are they not aware of Making a Murderer? The Netflix Documentary that helped kickstart the True Crime category into a billion-dollar industry? We’ve always been a culture that loves True Crime, but there’s been an absolute explosion in TC media in the last decade. It seems almost inevitable, though, like it’s just expanding at the same rate as new entertainment media platforms. We’re just as weird and sick a society as ever, but we have more ways to show it.

[@mya5555]

fr they shouldn’t have cast a renowned hottie 😭😭

[@waket1570]

I don't really get that people. Yes, if I watch the actor's photos, I can say he's hot and all. During the serie though, I never, ever, once felt attraction, because even in the most "thirsty" scenes, there was something behind, being the story or something phisical or happening in the vicinity, that made me want to throw up. And I say this in the most positive way for such a show, because that's the reaction a serial killer should give, expecially one like him. I'm really worried about whoever just found him or what he did attractive, because honestly I can confidently say itìs not the showrunners fault here

[@kurinthekitty6842]

@@meagtaylor3392 He looks worse in my eyes

[@artmoryoo]

this incident reminds me of when serial killer stan twt was posting kawaii edits of ted bundy but then people started to respond with the word "electric chair" which made a lot of them go quiet 😭 they also said that the word electric chair was triggering despite their whole page being used to praise a literal serkal killer

[@smartiesmcflurry6755]

NO I REMEMBER THAT I was hollering

[@songbirdofthevoid]

I remember seeing it on Tumblr too...💀

[@bloblovlalalulu3422]

This one is new to me ,holyshit 💀 triggering , they say. I do not vibe with the world

[@triangularsphere]

ON TUMBLR THEY WERE CALLING IT THE E SLUR

[@artmoryoo]

@@triangularsphere NOT THE E SLUR 😭

[@AKA253]

I honestly used to be SUPER into true crime. It stopped the moment I did a minimal amount of critical thinking. I realized "Hey. I'm not going into any police force or FBI organization, I don't need to know every detail of innocent people having their lives ruined. I don't need to know every killer's strategy and motive. I just need to know how to keep myself and my loved ones safe." Curiosity is vastly different than entertainment. I think a lot of people are crossing that line without realizing it.

[@bluemountainw1789]

Since when do you need to be in the profession of the subject you’re interested in? I don’t think you understand what “critical thinking” means because what you did was not it. 😅

[@AKA253]

@@bluemountainw1789 cool cool, going right to insults. Love it. My personal stance is that I don’t need to know the ins and outs of criminal behavior. I’ve learned enough to keep myself safe, after that it becomes more for entertainment than it does education.

[@mr.peppermint9994]

@@bluemountainw1789 it does become a bit creepy after people starting asking what is your favorite serial killer. I think it is really creepy living In the age of knowing every detail of a person and we are starting to get carried away.

[@bluemountainw1789]

“It’s creepy living in the age of knowing every detail” it’s called having hobbies, passions and interests. I think it’s creepy living in the age where people are overly sensitive to the point it’s irrational.

[@bandamani]

@@bluemountainw1789 if your hobby is eating popcorn and having a fun time as you listen to the descriptions of how an innocent person tragically and violently lost their life, which deeply affected their family and friends to this day, I think you need a new hobby. These families are going to carry this REAL situation's effects with them for the rest of their lives, you never knew that person. You only see them as a victim, of the killer who you know the name and likely the life story of, who should not be getting that kind of attention for what they did.

[@jgcoverkknot5701]

People who romanticise serial killers need to be put on a list

[@urfavmia101]

Put them on the block list 🤭🤭

[@readtheroom831]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@crypt8355]

Seriously, Hybristophiliacs only inspire copy-killings and shameless glorification of sickening atrocities. How isnt that a concern for the public?

[@Doveisdumb]

I will 100% judge if someone glorifies and romanticizes a murderer, but I respect how you’re not being aggressive about it

[@JustAnotherShopaholic]

I try not to judge people myself, but this is making that hard, but at least the crushes I had on Tom Cruise, Mitt Romney and Gordon Ramsay in my late teens, seem pretty tame in comparison

[@williamafton5047]

"He didn't hurt them bad" yeah he totally didn't pour acid into their heads in attempts to preserve a human Skull among other things

[@gorilla-p2k]

ikr like he definetely didnt drill holes into their heads and strangle and drug them

[@rowanontheinternet3078]

uh oh jake is going to anger the real life serial killer stans

[@endyark]

whuh oh!!

[@ratb4st4rd30]

ruh oh raggy 😰😰😱

[@ari1758]

They are disgusting

[@goobertron9099]

As he should...

[@roninnka]

I hate dramatized TV shows about true crime. That kind of stuff needs to stay as a documentary not sensationalized. I watched the Ted Bundy series because my friend recommended it to me and I like Zac Efron, but the whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth. The second true crime goes from informative to entertainment is when I have a problem with it. At that point it's no longer about the victims and spreading awareness.

[@flicnerdy4385]

Well it's also the framing, it's always about the killer. I think, if done well, a decent show would be about the victims. Let these weird lustful teens feel the pain the families felt, don't humanise the killer, humanise the victims, show them as people not names or statistics.

[@spiitz_spiitz]

I did a college presentation after this show came out about why I thought true crime dramas were unethical, citing this show several times (the presentation prompt was a modern issue we wanted to argue about) and mine was literally the only one where people didn't clap after.

[@snakesonaframe2668]

I honestly think painting convicted serial killers in a good light, or posting “thirst traps” about them, should be a reportable offense on social media platforms. It’s harmful and distressing to a lot of people, and the world would be better without it.

[@lailamonadi5630]

Oh my lord preach to the choir! Like say it louder for the people in the back please!!

[@nau3561]

almost everyone who finds this harmful and distressing content literally looked for it so you harm yourself by being nosy

[@yuenmienyu]

anyone who does that deserves to be locked up in jail for a few days

[@yuenmienyu]

@@nau3561 huh? somebody getting angry over people supporting/loving real life serial k1llers is being "nosey"?

[@nau3561]

@@yuenmienyu yes you wont see any people supporting if you didnt search for it just to feel outraged as if your feelings and sharing it around is gonna do something other than bringing more people and attention to it ironically

[@heyy1829]

The name of this kink is Hybristophilia, its an interesting phenomenon, cant really understand it either

[@BG-it7hb]

Yup

[@A_88123]

It's actually extremely disturbing and gross that people make "edits" and shit out of these very real and awful people. Like seriously, don't treat these actual murderers like they deserve any kind of positive attention. It's sick, insensitive, and harmful to the families of the victims. God what is wrong with people

[@JustAnotherShopaholic]

Disturbing as this is, the silver lining is that this makes the crushes I had on Tom Cruise, Mitt Romney and Gordon Ramsay seem pretty tame now

[@nicoles6884]

You should talk about how people are fetishizing the abuse/incest/grooming of Daemon in House of Dragon. The producer has openly spoken out against the fans that are sexualizing his abuse. It’s so bizarre.

[@mjsummer177]

Excuse me what I need more info and also u to erase my brain after telling me

[@tinyveggie]

@@mjsummer177 we already have. you’re just gonna forget again wtf

[@aspwned]

i was bored and on omegle and met someone on the lgbtq+ tag. it was normal at first before she brought up dahmer and i was weirded out but kept talking to her for the possibility it was a bit (i have trouble with tone). she asked my sexuality afterwards, and when i said i was gay, she deadass responded "you should friend me on snapchat and we could do a jeffery dahmer roleplay". still thinking it was some weird joke i laughed awkwardly and asked "isn't he gay?" "well yeah but he's the reason i'm interested in gay guys, so i thought you could be dahmer and i could turn you straight" WHAT. THE. FUCK. i have never been more utterly disturbed in seconds, and i was already pretty fucking disturbed that they brought up dahmer in the lgbtq+ tag. i get a lot of these people might struggle with mental illness (not that it's an excuse mind you) but so many people are using him as a way to fetishise and mock lgbtq+ trauma. it's like the fucking "hot yaoi boy's love" that straight girls put on their social media but 10 million times worse. it makes me sick how someone can just?? say things like that?? just bc im a gay guy??? and to think how the victim's families must feel!! absolutely vile

[@yazmeanpinto]

Am I the only one who watched the show and felt completely disgusted by Jeffrey Dahmer? It reached a point where I started freaking out when my boyfriend laid his head on my chest. This is because it reminded me of Dahmer saying "im gonna eat your heart". Like someone at my job said she loves Dahmer and felt sorry for him....and that I just felt more pity for his victims and not him....like I lost all respect for her in that moment. Absolutely disgusting and twisted how people think

[@fabplays6559]

Same, what the fuck is wrong with people? I felt satisfied when he was murdered. I don’t understand how anyone could watch that show and feel sorry for him. The only part that made me feel any sort of “pity” was the scene where he had a relationship with the young deaf man. How horrendously sad that was. The feeling that there was something so monstrously wrong with Dahmer that he felt the compulsion to snuff people out and rob them of the rest of their lives. I felt stirred to tears at the scenes where the victim’s families spoke. I can’t imagine why people are attracted to Dahmer.

[@BradleySmithYoutube]

The Doolittle hustle this week has been real! I’m here for it

[@Rosesbathroom]

tiktok is the new tumblr 💀

[@rosecity_chris]

My family is related to Dayton Leroy Roger's the Mollala Forrest Killer through marriage and even our family has had so much shame about it. I've always been fascinated by serial killers and what would drive someone to do such horrible things, but actively lusting for them is gross and disrespectful to the victims and everyone involved. These are some of the most evil and horrible humans to ever exist and I really don't think we should be creating anything other than informational media about them. Not whole ass big budget reenactments.

[@Kiisara18]

“I cried when Jeffrey Dahmer died” like he didn’t die before most of these weirdos were born lol. I think I was one when he died? It was like ‘94

[@andromedastar4900]

You're right, the vast majority of them weren't even born when Dahmer died. They're confusing the actor with the real person. They didn't cry when Dahmer died, they cried or felt sad when they saw Evan Peters getting "killed" onscreen. A lot of this whole thing is just Evan fangirls getting extremely confused about their feelings/attraction to Evan and conflating it with Dahmer. Murphy knew exactly what he was doing when he made this series, no matter what lip service he spews. Just look at all the scenes of Evan Peters showing his ass or taking off his shirt and glistening with sweat...yeah it's all catering to the thirsty Evan fangirls, the vast majority of whom are teen girls/early 20s women.

[@Ona1979]

I believe that my mother might have psychopathy or something with similar symptoms. She tortured animals to death when she was a child. They are fond memories for her and shared them with me when I was young. She casually abused patients under her care when she was nursing student. She found it funny that an elderly man who she shaving was bleeding. She impaled a man through through the chest when she was younger and it doesn't bother her. Her favorite anecdotes to share for entertainment, are of the ugliest things that a person can do to another person or animal. I was sexually assaulted a lot while I was growing up. My older sister sexually assaulted me when I was six years old. I told my mother about it as soon as I was able to get away from my sister. When I told my mother what had just happened, she laughed and went back to her cooking. That's when I realized that my sister could do anything that she wanted to me and no one would stop her. When I brought it up, years later, she said that she didn't know that it would bother me. She enjoys hurting people, but she has a limited understanding of what actions will hurt people. Also, I was in the care of a stranger who I didn't know, when I was very little. The way that he handled me, felt a lot like a serial killer. When he was hurting me, it was with the same level dis passion of a person using a foot stool for pleasure. When I seek knowledge of why serial killers kill people the way that they, I am trying to understand what happened to me in the hands of that man and I am trying to understand my mother better. For most of the people who thirsting for serial killers....if they were ever handled by a psychopathic predator, is not glamorous. It is creepy and terrifying. I had a husband who had similar flaws and would have casually killed me under particular circumstances and he would have seen it as a way to express his deep devotion to me. Packing my bags to go to a domestic violence shelter, hoping that he wouldn't come home early, was the most terrifying memory from my adult life. He would have made it quick and kill me lovingly due to deep love and devotion and I would not have had a say in the matter. Being given a quick painless death by my loving husband, is so absolutely terrifying to me that it feels like I can't breathe. There is no romance in being killed and despise being in the presence people like that

[@marrnotmeeger]

wtf

[@shipperina2213]

The issue with that is that she would have to be diagnosed or had symptoms of conduct disorder when she was a child/teen and dealt with abuse when she was a child, neither of which seem to be clear from your comment. There is many disorders and mental health issues that can describe the way your mother is acting other than psychopathy. My best reccomendation is to get her to therapy and have a professional diagnose her rather than arm-chair diagnosing her with a heavily stigmatized disorder.

[@pooodonklooopdoop5672]

@@marrnotmeeger im at a lost for words

[@Pomni3477]

Stay far away from your mom and sister

[@remy000]

I'm so sorry that you had to experience that. I hope that everything will get better for you in the future

[@caoimhedoesstuff9293]

The whole lgbt+ issue of Dahmer is so concerning. Like, a girl in my class was explaining who he was and was like ‘he was a gay guy who killed people’

[@squidface2708]

Bro the hurricane being my deadname scared the fuck out of me because i was only semi-watching lmaoo

[@reythelastdragonpearl9470]

I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT FICTIONAL KILLERS CAN BE LIKED, BUT DON’T F*CKING SEXUALIZE REAL KILLERS!!!

[@kannakizuchi9540]

It’s actually insane that so many people do not understand this, its like, common sense??

[@JustAnotherShopaholic]

Honestly I don't feel like sexualizing either is a good idea, fantasizing about fictional serial killers is just a gateway drug to real ones

[@NKceller]

@@kannakizuchi9540 it's common nonsense. if I like something in fiction, I like it in reality too. That actually makes sense

[@whatalsaid]

Remember when Netflix was bragging about how more people were google searching Jeffrey Dahmer than they were House of the Dragon or Rings of Power like it was something to be proud of?

[@animecuteperson1]

As Bailey sarian says “ get better idols “

[@callmekerrigan]

This infuriates me. I always wonder how I would feel if people out there were wearing t shirts with the man who abused me and writing posts on tumblr about how misunderstood he was. I already struggle after what he did to me. It would kill me and I can’t imagine the pain the survivors go through seeing people digging up their traumatic past and celebrating it. It genuinely upsets and angers me. I’m so glad that more and more people are calling it out, it’s sick.

[@skybingus]

Bonnie and Clyde syndrome is so wild, I remember seeing stuff like this all over tumblr and someone was always convinced they could’ve “fixed” him.

[@shannond1511]

"I hope I meet him in heaven, if I even get there." So they think dahmer's in heaven but they may not be somehow...

[@heavensent9861]

LMAO

[@naviara715]

Whenever I see the serial killer thirst traps, especially the Dahmer ones, all I can think is "These girls do know Dahmer was gay, right..?"

[@tinyveggie]

they taking the i can fix him thing too far

[@possumpie1702]

“Maybe a book?” As a bookstore employee, I have devastating news

[@hahaanonymous2832]

I like how nearly none of them talk about the fact that he was gay

[@shaniyabrooks2664]

Jeffrey Dahmer has thrist traps is two terms I never thought would be used in a sentence- LIKE EVER 💀

[@JustAnotherShopaholic]

Same, however this does make the crushes I had on Tom Cruise, Mitt Romney and Gordon Ramsay in my late teens seem pretty tame now

[@ShinigamiComplex]

"He waS jUSt a SweeT CUpCAKe boY UWU" Bench, he literally brain-bleached a couple of victims in an attempt to make them dolls for forks sake. 🙃 (I still have that knowledge rattling around from my TC days)

[@literallythenarrator]

being attracted to the actor is better than being attracted to a non fiction serial killer character, u could like fiction serial killers for example kai anderson (which evan plays in ahs) but not real killers

[@tropssicle9119]

Who cares if he has daddy issues! A lot of people do and they don't kill people! Wtf?? I can't understand how people sympathize with him

[@angygremlin4423]

He did such horrible things to his victims before and after he killed them. Their deaths were not merciful like these people believe. It's literally sickening to read about what happened. Anyone who is infatuated by Dahmer or thinks he didn't deserve to be brutally ended in prison needs serious therapy or their own jail cell. Regardless of what his life was like before the killings, there is just no excuse for the level of depravity he showed.

[@tropssicle9119]

@@angygremlin4423 very well said

[@mariner355]

@@angygremlin4423 i had nightmares for weeks bro, what he did to his victims were horrifying to just read about. i don't get how people can idolize that monstrosity of a human being

[@Ezzie_on_the_internet]

"if I even get there" Bro, if Jeff is there, there bar is subterranean 😭

[@kaleleaf1697]

hiya, new subscriber here. just wanted to say I love your videos and really appreciate your advocacy for mental health 💖 keep it up!!

[@jackson5876]

The only media on Jeffery Dahmer that I think is okay is the book his dad wrote. It’s a great read if you’re bored.

[@banananananananananananana.]

Dude my cousin twice removed (my grandmas cousin idk what to call it) got r@ped and murdered by a serial killer. I was like two when it happened and never met her but I researched it later and I’ve seen the effect it’s had on my family, it’s just terrifying to think that there are people that simp for psychopaths like that. I feel like I’m quoting this meme every other day now but just “stop it, get some help”.

[@melodysplaypen]

They seem to have forgotten these killers aren't characters, they are *real* people who have done very *real* things.

[@cur1ouscatf1sh]

You know, sometimes I think it’s good to keep cringe culture around. Like yeah bullying is bad, but some people need to get bullied a little bit to keep them from doing stuff like stanning actual real serial killers

[@ponykazy3725]

Something tells me that bullying might fule the outcast vibe these people think they have. "I'm so quirky and dark, people hate me cause I'm diffrent." Idk maybe its put sense I to them, but like.... it might not as well.

[@flicnerdy4385]

@@ponykazy3725 exactly. We need to do education.

[@justine4581]

No. You don't need to be bullied to not do this.

[@bandamani]

cringe culture targets harmless people partaking in their hobbies. this behaviour is not harmless

[@awkwardlymajestic]

i think they just need to touch grass and be banished from society for a bit

[@apollo6035]

thank god someone's talking about this on youtube, i swear i havent seen anybody talk about how wrong this is.

[@goodneighborsw]

jermbot’s video is good too

[@oldmansittinginachair4078]

Savantics made a few videos about the romanticism and glorification of serial killers/school shooters a few years ago

[@comiscxx]

I’m gonna open a mental hospital for these people one day

[@Anna-kq5tx]

I’m going into criminal psych, it’s my major and I’ll be honest this shit is making me really question my career path

[@guertlenub5731]

his mugshot looks like that one kid who pokes your shoulder mid class and when you turn around they ask you if you have watched my little pony with that face

[@monetokay]

I think that this is because of Evan Peters already huge fanbase of people who were attracted to him being a fictional murderer in American Horror Stories. They allowed themselves to fall in love with that fictional murderer so they are allowing themselves to be in love with this real person who ruined real lives. And to make it worse the families of the people affected by this guy are ALIVE AND WELL. The evolution of the internet and how we have stopped seeing people on the internet as real people, makes it easier to separate the face of Dahmer from his crimes. Like when people glorify and adore school shooters. Obviously there's way more psychological reasons behind being attracted to bad people (like savior complexes and such) but idk I think people forget that the victims in these dramatizations were real.

[@sydneys2477]

In my opinion, people like this who fantasize about murderers have a similar problem to people who romanticize mental illness. They're not exactly the same, mind you - but you can be interested in criminal cases without glorifying them, just like you can be interested in learning about neurosis and psychosis without glorifying those conditions, yet the opposite runs rampant. Either way, it's wild that we keep running into this problem where people forget about the victims and go too far with their interests (- which very quickly spiral into extremely concerning and dangerous fascinations.) If Netflix cared about telling the stories of Dahmer's victims, there are certainly respectful ways to go about it. Capitalizing on the narrative of the tragedy rather than educating people about the events that took place and their effects is obviously not the way to go. Great video, Jake - your charming snippets of humor combined with your serious commentary is a great mix. It definitely allows you to cover difficult topics like this in a respectful, sympathetic manner while keeping your audience engaged. Love your content as always!

[@spencereli]

This is my first video of yours that I've come across and I was so pleasantly surprised about your Never Stop Fund!! I have been struggling with chronic illness my entire life and people rarely notice us. Definitely gives me a glimmer of hope :) Keep being awesome

[@monamisamist]

I remember reading about this sort of sexual disorder where (usually women) are obsessively attracted to dangerous people and would write love letters to jailed serial killers. Makes me wonder about these new fangirls

[@xtraaspicy3945]

it's called hybristophilia and it belongs in the same group as pedophilia, zoophilia and objectophilia. so yes, these people really are sick in the head.

[@sillybanana_kim]

Thank u for braking this down so well Jake really enjoyed the video

[@theblepblop]

one of the popular boys in my school dressed up as jeffery dahmer and i almost fucking threw a chair at him. he thought he was sooooo cool and quirky for dressing up as a serial killer.

[@itsalyssaleah]

I just want to say I appreciate your content, you always put out videos that spark good conversation & are entertaining at the same time. I aspire to build a strong community just like this one :’) keep up the great work !!

[@lycha298]

Sometimes I think the whole thing about "I don't want to mention the victim for respect for the families" actually backfires because then the serial killer becomes "the person" and the victims just a number, or a grotesque detail on a case. I'm not saying we should expose the families to trauma over and over again, but I do think maybe we should start naming the victims, and make the serial killers just nameless criminals, study cases at best.

[@valentinecore]

the fact that there's so many FICTIONAL villains or killers they could be into instead but they choose a REAL LIFE MURDERER is insane. like maybe being obsessed with tate american horror story isn't healthy but id take it any fucking day over this

[@rebeccayo]

i literally can’t get over the deaf victim ): that was so fucked and so sad and idk how people can make these thirst traps of a disgusting thing

[@Adakechi]

I think there’s something to be said about the fascination with serial killers. There’s a fine line between information and romanticism. A lot of these people are teenagers who have underlying issues that seriously need to be addressed. It kinda blurs together with the idea of isolation and feeling like an outsider, though obviously these aren’t synonymous with… cannibalism.

[@Hip.Username]

Unpopular opinion, but I don't think true crime entertainment media should exist. People use the reasoning that it brings awareness to crimes happening but that's bullshit, it's for entertainment purposes at the expense of victims and their families.

[@shelbythisisaresidentialar5397]

True crime documentaries are one thing; I think it's good to spread the word, but when people turn it into full on acted out scenes, or continue making content when the family of the victims explicitly ask not to, then that becomes an issue. It's not a movie, it's real life crime. RECENT CRIMES, on top of that. If you want some reenactments about horrific killers do one abt,,, idk fuckin Holmes or something

[@Hip.Username]

@@shelbythisisaresidentialar5397 the vast majority of families hate that the details of their loved ones' murder is explicitly described, there's no reason to do it in the first place, and to put the burden on the family to have to ask for content to be taken down is awful. We have trigger warnings for surviving victims of crime with trauma but no one cares about these victims' families because it's an interesting story. Unless it's to catch a criminal we shouldn't be using the murders of people to make content. I know a lot of people are into it, but it seems like something that is long overdue to be changed

[@shelbythisisaresidentialar5397]

@@Hip.Username I also stated that I don't think content should be made if the family doesn't want it to be.

[@MegCazalet]

@@shelbythisisaresidentialar5397 Documentaries can be just as exploitative. View documentaries with a critical eye. They are not perfect by any means.

[@shelbythisisaresidentialar5397]

@@MegCazalet Yes I am aware, I've seen my fair share.

[@AShaftOfLight]

The only thing I can think of is imagine these people's ancestors watching over them and seeing them thirst over a serial killer. I can't imagine the disappointment they feel and how disgusted they must be.

[@cmmurphy3421]

Tbh Evan Peters kinda deserves to be roped in with it. He accepted the role and decided to stick with it even when the families out the victims said that they didn't want this show to be produced. Also the producers of the show KNEW what they were doing when they cast a conventionally attractive man to be a cold blooded killer.This show should've NEVER been made.

[@nomyon27]

This was a great video bro,. Loved it and I’m very glad you made a(shit ton of) point(s). I’m glad someone FINALLY talked about this shit because it’s the first I’ve seen someone make a KZbin video about it.

[@WabbyWaffleBhoi]

Thank you for not dragging people with PDs through the mud whilst talking about serial killers

[@opal92nwf]

My theory as to why straight girls thirst for him is that he was a good looking guy who pursued his “interests” in such a powerful, commanding, and straightforward manner (which are very masculine traits). Also him being homosexual makes him like “forbidden fruit” and “hard to get”: which goes with the principle of that intense desire for something that subconsciously is know that one realistically cannot have. And that’s what they find super attractive.

[@the55midge]

it makes my heart so happy to see your list of patrons get longer and longer!! i don’t have the money to subscribe to anyones patrion but i love to see creators i love getting the support they deserve

[@Anonymous-bi5pv]

The way they made him nae nae in the documentary to give him a "quirky relateable white boy" image is so funny to me in a sick way

[@boiboi994]

The fact they put it next to HEARTSTOPPPER

[@djeffree1942]

I’ve only watched episode one of dahmer and hearing Tracy say “you killed my people” was just so sad for me to hear. It felt so real. I don’t know how people can support that sick man after watching that.

[@JustAnotherShopaholic]

Me too, it was too gruesome for me to finish, username kinda sus 😒

[@djeffree1942]

@@JustAnotherShopaholic oh god I didn’t realise that OH GOD

[@somethingstupid1075]

psychiatric help needs to be far more accessible

[@kaitlynwoodmore9521]

My bsfs and I had a conversation about this when the documentary came out. We discussed how similar the victims and their families looked in it. We were talking about how traumatic it must be to see that all over the internet. Imagine seeing a family members death. How the literal serial killer was treating someone you loved. I would hate the world Fr.

[@conejitoskawaii3960]

The acapella of the thrist traps was the cherry on top, ✨👠

[@ollie7041]

I’ve got glasses. They’re silver aviators. I’ll let you guess what nickname I was given

[@Mags_Ty]

When the series came out, one of my co-worker started to Idolize him. He would come to work and try to convince everyone that Dahmer did nothing wrong and even tried to say that everything he did was just an accident. There were also points in time when it felt like my co-worker wanted to be Dahmer or at least do some of the things that Dahmer had done.

[@レゴシ-r4f]

I believe those people thirsting over Dhamer are actually appealed to Evan's appearance and are confusing that with "bEiNg iN lOve wItH a MasS muRDeREr" I so hope this is the case, I don't want to believe they're thirsting for the actual Dhamer, the atrocities he has commited are things I wouldn't think any human being would be capable of. Then again, he is everything but human, he is a monster.

[@XxNeg4tive_Ch4rgexX]

The thing I don’t think people actually love Jeffery Dahmer, they love Evan Peters AS Jeffery Dahmer.

[@nexp3137]

i am fully expecting go see people dress up as jeffery dahmer for halloween and i’m actually so upset about it, my school lets us wear costumes to school and if i see anyone dressed as him i’m breaking their glasses; this whole romanticizing serial killers is actually sick

[@erenjaeger6125]

Did anyone actually do it? I hope not, but if so then pleeease tell me you broke their glasses. 🙏🏻

[@a.r.mproductions5616]

Same I’m going to a convention this weekend and I’d anyone is cosplaying a serial killer I’m losing it

[@moorecatherg]

the title of this video is a rollercoaster

[@lesbianage9538]

I got an ad for the Emmet Till movie on this video. The trailer started with an actor pretending to be his mother bawling her eyes out. It just feels wrong

[@richardpapenapologist1703]

WHAT??? ok that is horrendous i didn’t even know they were making a movie like that- can’t let people rest it’s so sad :(

[@mariner355]

i just read about him and holy shit that poor boy died so young. these people need to let them rest in peace

[@nicholasmaiab.6668]

People were sayings how casting Evan Peters was problematic because he was good looking and people would romanticize Dahmer but then I look at those people thristing over him and it aint about Evan, it's about the real ass Jeffrey and I think that's even scarier because it prooves to me this is hardly about the show- this is about the fascination with murderers to a sick and twisted extend