How efficient can I build the 100% Arm NAS?

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Jeff Geerling

Jeff Geerling

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@floridaman7
@floridaman7 11 ай бұрын
So its not a cake?
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 11 ай бұрын
The cake was a lie.
@rmcdudmk212
@rmcdudmk212 11 ай бұрын
​@@JeffGeerling about to say the same thing 🤣
@SodaWithoutSparkles
@SodaWithoutSparkles 11 ай бұрын
​@@JeffGeerlingThe cake was always a lie.
@Radm0bile
@Radm0bile 11 ай бұрын
​@@JeffGeerlingOkay, so the pivot to baking isn't happening yet. Got it.
@jacquesb5248
@jacquesb5248 11 ай бұрын
no thats extra....
@yodal_
@yodal_ 11 ай бұрын
This is my dream NAS. When this stuff starts showing up on eBay in a few years I'm going to be so happy.
@jacquesb5248
@jacquesb5248 11 ай бұрын
yeah those 20TB hdd
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 11 ай бұрын
@@jacquesb5248 Honestly from a practicality standpoint, 8 or 10 TB for a SATA drive is probably the max I'd go with (accounting for price + rebuild time for a full disk). 20TB+ is really only best for maximizing storage per lb/volume!
@kuhluhOG
@kuhluhOG 11 ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling at these sizes the risk of another drive to also break while rebuilding is just a bit too great and while you have backups for that, it's really annoying if you need to actually go and start from there again...
@kwinzman
@kwinzman 11 ай бұрын
Why is it your dream NAS?
@jacquesb5248
@jacquesb5248 11 ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerling true, i have 4 6TB for 15,6TB and have 2TB left so bigger is going to work for me. data hoarder
@aequanimus63247
@aequanimus63247 11 ай бұрын
Hey Jeff, It's Mark (met you at the creator summit) So short story on that power switch.. the batch of switches we had in production were not consistently terminated by our supplier. I ended up making a batch of power switch testers for our production guys to use once I found out about this. I'm pretty sure that your unit was one of the first off the line, so it looks like it got through before we knew about the supplier issue. Wouldn't be something we'd see on a full build, as they would have used the power switch mounted to the rear panel to test the system, but since your unit didn't include a mobo they would have used a drop in test bench motherboard. (which is a motherboard mounted to a sliding plate with its own power switch that we install in the back of the unit with enough IO options to accomodate all cabling possibilities offered). They have to leave the rear panel off when testing like this, the same rear panel that houses your untested power switch. 😅
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 11 ай бұрын
Good to know, and glad to meet you virtually again :)
@mikkolukas
@mikkolukas 8 ай бұрын
Small problems like these are non-issues, as long as one is able to easily find a description of a working solution and can readily apply it oneself 🙂❤ Much worse is problems (in other computers or software) that takes days of tearing one's hair out, not being able to find anything conclusive to solve the matter.
@jtmusson
@jtmusson 11 ай бұрын
I like how you don’t pretend the video isn’t sponsored because no cash changed hands - integrity move!
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 11 ай бұрын
It's best to be blatant about the vendor relationship; then you can decide how much you'd like to trust my conclusions!
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 10 ай бұрын
i dont do things based on how much money involved
@bent540
@bent540 10 ай бұрын
this guy tried to sell linus screwdrivers! maybe its because you dont know what integrity means!?
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 10 ай бұрын
??? I paid for all the screwdrivers used in my LTT screwdriver review videos - and never recommended them over cheaper alternatives@@bent540 Or are you implying I tried to sell Linus some of my screwdrivers? That... is definitely not true. I like my screwdrivers, don't want to sell them to Linus.
@ChristopherHailey
@ChristopherHailey 11 ай бұрын
Jeff violated the first rule of system building, never close the case for your first boot, it's bad juju. ;) Actually another great video, love seeing unusual builds BTW Rocky is my favorite distro, I have several machines running it. Highly recommend!
@BrBill
@BrBill 11 ай бұрын
And then he locks it up again after swapping the RAM! No, no, no. Never seal until boot succeeds.
@ChristopherHailey
@ChristopherHailey 11 ай бұрын
@@BrBill That's just how he rolls 😎
@TheMeldanor
@TheMeldanor 11 ай бұрын
There are many tech people out there, but I love your videos and your style. Honest, calm and professional. Thank you for the video!
@grizant
@grizant 11 ай бұрын
AsrockRack also makes similar motherboards but with an AM4 socket, which I'm using in my own setup. Most or all of the desktop-class, non-APU AM4 CPUs support unregistered ECC. Turn on Eco mode in the BIOS and you've got a powerful, quiet, and efficient homelab/virtualization/storage server using a CPU recycled from your last-gen gaming rig.
@martinjungmusic
@martinjungmusic 11 ай бұрын
Running one of their Intel Core boards with a 12600K and ECC. It's a great system.
@GermanMythbuster
@GermanMythbuster 11 ай бұрын
they have also AM5 boards
@antagonista8122
@antagonista8122 11 ай бұрын
@grizant Eco mode does fantastic work when it comes to load power consumption, but what about idle? Is it acceptable on ASRock Rack setup?
@GreySectoid
@GreySectoid 11 ай бұрын
Ryzens idle quite high, they don't properly support C6.@@antagonista8122
@JimmytheCow2000
@JimmytheCow2000 11 ай бұрын
As a homelabber, I would love to see more 3D printed items in a homelab environment. Lets face it, Homelabbing is about cramming enterprise tech into your house. Seems like 3D printing fits right in there.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 11 ай бұрын
For sure!
@edwardallenthree
@edwardallenthree 11 ай бұрын
Having purchased several 3D printed little adapters over the years from eBay for various enterprise tech that I've used in creative ways, I concur. I just don't need another hobby...
@si1entdave
@si1entdave 11 ай бұрын
On the switch, you usually have NO - Normally Open, NC - Normally Closed, and C is actually Common, ie a changeover switch.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 11 ай бұрын
That makes more sense since Normally Closed would be Closed, normally, heh
@davidquirk8097
@davidquirk8097 11 ай бұрын
The older I get, the more a appreciate the value of a workshop trolley when it comes to moving awkward and / or heavy kit around.
@PaddyWag0n
@PaddyWag0n 11 ай бұрын
Pulling the mag drives before you rack it also helps
@miscbits6399
@miscbits6399 Ай бұрын
And in an actual datacenter environment, something like a Serverlift SL-500. We went from needing 2 blokes holding the kit up to the rack and a 3rd getting the silders aligned to a single guy being able to so it without any grunting swearing or crushed fingers Yes they're expensive ($8-14,000), but in a work environment they're a lot cheaper than workman's comp if someone gets injured putting a 4U server into a rack For homelab users: You can kludge it with a motorcycle lift or auto workshop scissor table but these only lift about 1 metre at most (these are $250-350 or can be hired) That lift limitation is OK if you can put light stuff into racks or only half populate them but I was needing to fill 42U x 12 racks and had no real control about where new stuff went as old items were retired. You can aim to keep the heavy stuff low but even 2U servers are difficult to lift 7 feet in the air and clip into rack rails
@Younday15
@Younday15 11 ай бұрын
Definitely curious about your 3D printing adventures!
@DiyintheGhetto
@DiyintheGhetto 11 ай бұрын
Hey Jeff, that 4 pin connector is for, standby, power on, power good and ground. It tells the power supply to turn on and makes sure everything is okay.
@samaitcheson7057
@samaitcheson7057 11 ай бұрын
Great experiment Jeff! So much fun geeking out with you. And here's a huge bonus - your video dropped 2 mins after I finished watching todays' ExplainingComputers video. Happy Sunday 😁
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 11 ай бұрын
It's a great pairing!
@fookingsog
@fookingsog 11 ай бұрын
​@@JeffGeerling Like Wine & Cheese!!! 😜😆
@netsspam
@netsspam 11 ай бұрын
love the full setup video, its very informational and shows the whole process of building and racking a server.
@SproutyPottedPlant
@SproutyPottedPlant 11 ай бұрын
I used to have an ARM NAS! It was called an Acorn Archimedes 😀 ran RISC OS in ROM and the network card had drivers in it’s ROM!
@GreySectoid
@GreySectoid 11 ай бұрын
Blast from the past!
@YouRich92
@YouRich92 10 ай бұрын
How many hard disk did it hosted and for which capacity ?
@rmcdudmk212
@rmcdudmk212 11 ай бұрын
Very cool project. Awesome to see this system up and running.
@joeyghostx
@joeyghostx 11 ай бұрын
Never expected to get a refresher on what can go wrong with a pwrswtch today, but glad to see I am not the only person cursed with learning this the cursed way.
@playlist5455
@playlist5455 11 ай бұрын
The worst power switch issue I've seen is the computer just randomly shutting down or rebooting. The switch was faulty and sometimes stayed half open and would randomly click based on wind currents or movement of the shelf
@soniclab-cnc
@soniclab-cnc 11 ай бұрын
I have several Asrock Rack boards. All have been very solid and super stable. They are not cheap but if 24/7 is what you need.
@Trains-With-Shane
@Trains-With-Shane 11 ай бұрын
I'd be interested to see what you can accomplish once everything is all set up and you start playing with C-states, etc. to get the power usage down. Being a mere pleb I have been using Chinese x99 motherboards and cheap Xeons for my recent builds and have managed to do pretty well all things considered as I have only, so far, stood up a "do everything" server that serves as my NAS and home services. A dedicated low power secondary backup target as well as off-site cold storage is in the plans. Just not sure which direction i'm going to go. The new Arm stuff looks like fun but just too spendy for my use case. So either going to go with another Xeon or maybe an N5100 series cpu.
@RandomDad
@RandomDad 11 ай бұрын
27:24 I felt this moment in my entire being, and the "sometimes that happens" was the perfect response.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 11 ай бұрын
takes 30 minutes to build. takes 45 to remove from packing lol
@sylvaintousignant5050
@sylvaintousignant5050 11 ай бұрын
This is the first video of yours I have watch with you in the new space. Studio looks good and functional! Looks like the hard work is paying off.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! And it is, I have been able to get a lot more done, and finally seeing the effects of it in being able to do more than one project at a time now. Plus my wife is very happy having a sewing room at home now haha
@RRMGarage
@RRMGarage 11 ай бұрын
one of the cooler HL15 builds I have seen, very nice keep it up!
@awarepenguin3376
@awarepenguin3376 11 ай бұрын
This is amazing content! Arm is the future.
@doop9713
@doop9713 3 ай бұрын
Your channel is amazing, thank you for your hard work and sharing the fun with us.
@JzJad
@JzJad 11 ай бұрын
Awesome as always! Looking forward to the performance and testing!
@Neilhuny
@Neilhuny 11 ай бұрын
Nice to see you have all the same issues any of could have! Well, except for dropping screws into the gubbins - maybe I'm clumsy
@panosangel2883
@panosangel2883 11 ай бұрын
I'm so excited with this setup! The presentation is top-class as always :)
@igordasunddas3377
@igordasunddas3377 11 ай бұрын
OMG I was right when I said Ampere ARM on your image when you asked what we think you'd be doing with this chassis. Wow. Great video, I really want to build and use such a server, but when I saw 158W in idle, I decided I don't want to (can't afford it at the moment anyway), because electricity here is 40¢ per kWh I believe.
@ctrlaltdebug
@ctrlaltdebug 11 ай бұрын
It should be lower when the hard drives spin down.
@vikingforties
@vikingforties 11 ай бұрын
CPU should be 6 to 12 W at idle.
@francismendes
@francismendes 11 ай бұрын
I can't wait for part 2!
@JasonsLabVideos
@JasonsLabVideos 11 ай бұрын
FREAKING AWESOME video Jeff !! Nice work !!
@danagoyette7932
@danagoyette7932 11 ай бұрын
Something to note with Asrock IPMI, at least on the board I have, is that you have to manually configure which temperature sensor(s) correspond to which fan(s), as well as setting the fan curve. You also have to make a mapping from temperature to fan speed, or I think you can set it in a mode where it's like a feedback control that steps the fan speed up or down.
@bertboerland
@bertboerland 11 ай бұрын
Love your rocky shirt as well Jeff :)
@Huzzahgamers_inc
@Huzzahgamers_inc 11 ай бұрын
Good job on the Video, Your edits are getting so very good! I can't wait to see how Arm Cpu's are going to change as time goes on. It'll be cool to see laptops using them as fully as they do with Intel and AMD cpu's.
@mattrogers6646
@mattrogers6646 11 ай бұрын
Although I am not an Apple fan, their M series shows that RISC / ARM with emulation can perform as well as x86-64 for modern laptops & desktops. I wish there were more powerful & efficient options in the PC hardware ecosystem.
@FrenziedManbeast
@FrenziedManbeast 11 ай бұрын
Nice video Jeff, thanks for sharing this bleeding-edge stuff. I just did a NAS build using Epyc Milan using an AMD Epyc 7313P + ASRock Rack RomeD8-2T + 8x32GB DDR4 3200 RDIMMs. Drive config is 16 x Micron 1100 2TB SATA SSDs arranged in two RAIDZ1 VDEVs. I'm seeing nearly identical idle power draw as what you are which is surprising given ARM VS x64, with it going up to just under 200W with multiple VMs running in addition to the TrueNAS Scale. Love that 45HomeLab chassis, but too rich for my blood.
@justinclacherty9181
@justinclacherty9181 10 ай бұрын
I was wondering how it would compare with a similarly specced Epyc setup. So about the same? I have an ASRock Rack EPYC3451D4I2-2T running TrueNAS Scale, will have to get some power measurements on it.
@FrenziedManbeast
@FrenziedManbeast 10 ай бұрын
@@justinclacherty9181To be fair my comparison isn't 100% apples to apples to Jeff's here because I'm using only SATA SSDs and he has spinning rust. But yeah I don't think the ARM power efficiency claims are enough here to justify the boutique nature of an ARM Server for a HomeLab. I'll be able to source at least functional (if not exact) replacement parts for my build for years - I'm highly suspect that will be true for the ARM Server.
@IanTheWoodchuck
@IanTheWoodchuck 11 ай бұрын
Hiya Jeff! Feel free to expand on 3D printing any time you like! I've always appreciated how the 3D print community has rallied around the SBC industry. When I started printing, my first REAL project after cutting my teeth on test models was to print a RazPi3 case that would mount to my printer and run OctoPi. Of course I could have bought something, but being able to conjure a practical and functional piece of computing hardware out of thin air was one of the primary things I enjoyed about 3D printing. I'm really interested to see what you use to print. Personally, I have a a Monoprice, a couple of Creality's Ender3-family printers, a Prusa MK3s+, and a Creality K1 Max. And also, basically an entire wall rack of every interesting type and color of filament I could get my hands on (I got addicted to buying cool plastics for a bit). I am just getting back into adult-level RC cars, so it'll be really fun to start designing some of my own parts. Eventually I'd like to 3D print buck-molds of popular cars as well as my own designs and vacuform shells that will fit the chassis that I'll be racing around! I can't wait!!!
@flyguy8791
@flyguy8791 11 ай бұрын
Really cool! I can't wait to see more ARM servers, especially ones that could be used in the homelab!
@BSG1991
@BSG1991 10 ай бұрын
Awesome video sound was top notch as well
@davidrobertsson7640
@davidrobertsson7640 11 ай бұрын
awesome reviews! Love your ARM64 content - especially now when Adlink and Asrock delivers products that are useful! Took the courage to actually invest in a 128core adlink after your latest video! Can inform you that my 128Gig ECC LR DIMMs didnt work, sent them back and populated it with 64gig ECC R DIMMs instead and they work like a charm. Looking forward for your next Ampere video!
@AlasdairGR
@AlasdairGR 11 ай бұрын
Definitely would love to see some 3D printing shenanigans on the channel! It's always awesome to see the unique ways that people utilize additive manufacturing in their professions and hobbies.
@Collective_Captain
@Collective_Captain 11 ай бұрын
Looks fun! Although Im watching every video without having any experience, so you are learning me thanks!
@Tonba1
@Tonba1 8 ай бұрын
Cant believe we're in an era where arm cpus are socket able
@zrodger2296
@zrodger2296 11 ай бұрын
The coffee mug on the case is triggering me!😅 My Dad had a Heath kit TV die on him when a vase of flowers on it spilled.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 11 ай бұрын
Heh. In this case it was an empty little prop. I had it sitting around because I planned on recording with my Dad on set for a Geerling Engineering video-figured it was a fun little thing to have sitting around in this video :)
@LatitudeSky
@LatitudeSky 11 ай бұрын
Likewise I killed the family TV after sitting a glass of milk on top and spilling it down the back. This was the 70s and my family had saved up for a long time just to buy this TV, and I killed it. We didn't have a working TV again for years. Years. TVs cost a fortune in those days.
@mchlbk
@mchlbk 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting project Jeff. And important too, efficiency is both mathematically beautiful and a necessity for the progress and survival of humanity.
@Crux161
@Crux161 11 ай бұрын
You’re not made of money, but these parts aren’t cheap! Jeff always gets to play with the cool toys. Thanks for sharing the setup! Hope you have a happy and healthy 2024
@xCheddarB0b42x
@xCheddarB0b42x 11 ай бұрын
That is a big honkin home lab NAS, wow. Thanks for sharing this build with us.
@floatingpoint5860
@floatingpoint5860 11 ай бұрын
I have to present a project at the end of my apprenticeship. An ARM based NAS is exactly what I was looking for! Great idea! Thanks!👍
@quicksilverxt
@quicksilverxt 11 ай бұрын
This was a epic episode! Always enjoye someone building a server
@cjaliaga
@cjaliaga 11 ай бұрын
So cool, looking forward for part 2 :)
@franciscotorres4231
@franciscotorres4231 11 ай бұрын
Nice... Clear and useful as always! Tks for sharing this.
@Solkre82
@Solkre82 11 ай бұрын
RAID is not a backup, but those ZFS snapshots are super handy for day to day restores.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 11 ай бұрын
True!
@davidrobertsson7640
@davidrobertsson7640 11 ай бұрын
Also superhandy for the day to day revert you latest system software upgrade if it all fails.
@edwardallenthree
@edwardallenthree 11 ай бұрын
I recently discovered that I have been doing daily snapshots of the volume containing my virtual machine's hard drives, for 3 years, and forgot about it. I didn't notice it until I went to migrate the volume. It didn't impact performance.
@Solkre82
@Solkre82 11 ай бұрын
@@edwardallenthree When you forget you took a snapshot of a VM years ago in VMWare and have been running on it since. >.
@jamesfearing9459
@jamesfearing9459 11 ай бұрын
Nice video. Can’t wait for the next one!
@sirdeboben
@sirdeboben 11 ай бұрын
I didn’t know you had a mug. Gotta get that. Good product placement ❤
@mikkolukas
@mikkolukas 8 ай бұрын
9:20 The screw tightening order should be in a "star pattern", not just "round the clock" (or in this case "against the clock"). It stabilizes the pressure load and position of the cooler, making it a downward movement instead of a skewed movement. I learned that from a mechanic, for mounting engine tops. Bonus points if: * Make three "rounds": 1. make the screws just get a grip 2. screw them so they touch the bottom position 3. tighten
@i_Kruti
@i_Kruti 11 ай бұрын
Finally......!!!! My dream project...!!!! A DIY ARM NAS....!!!!🤩🥳
@justinknash
@justinknash 11 ай бұрын
Awesome build Jeff. Not gonna lie, very jealous of that rig. 🤤
@bilange
@bilange 11 ай бұрын
"Hello there!" 😂 Always looking forward your Linux/Servers videos. Keep em up!
@djur8489
@djur8489 10 ай бұрын
I just love your sense of humor Jeff :)
@leo_craft1
@leo_craft1 11 ай бұрын
Perfect for me! Hater of arm since the early beginning into larger things
@termiterasin
@termiterasin 10 ай бұрын
Very cool use of ARM
@LemmingGoBoom
@LemmingGoBoom 11 ай бұрын
The adaptor cable is for Power Good (Gray), 5V Standby (Purple), PS-On (Green) and Ground (Black). It needs this to provide standby power to the board and to signal the PSU to turn on. I had to mod the cables that came with my Supermicro M11-SDV and figure these out.
@mattrogers6646
@mattrogers6646 11 ай бұрын
Great information, thanks 👍
@hazerdoescrap
@hazerdoescrap 11 ай бұрын
I recently built out my new storage pool in a HL15... Crammed 12 15Tb Mach.2 drives in there along with some nvme drives. Luckily I didn't have the power switch issue you did but for some reason the power light on the switch doesn't want to work... Given that it's on the back I just stopped caring though... hehe. Your case seems louder than mine was. Not sure if that's the mic picking up a bigger frequency range or something else. Overall it looks like you're putting together a solid build... I'll be interested to see the benchmarking for storage and network throughput when you're fully setup....
@waynoinsaneo
@waynoinsaneo 11 ай бұрын
So happy you didn't go with an off the shelf nas software. Truenas is cool but I love the idea of just using Linux
@LILOREB
@LILOREB 11 ай бұрын
Would love more of your take on 3d printing.
@DaWord2011
@DaWord2011 11 ай бұрын
150w with 32 cores and so many pcie lanes is awesome for virtualization, excited to see where ARM goes in the next few years.
@MrHakisak
@MrHakisak 11 ай бұрын
You can already do that now with EPYC.
@axescar
@axescar 11 ай бұрын
14:35 - there is some more or less standard front panel connection. A few month ago I used Asus AP201 case with Asrock B550m steel legend board. There is one cable from the case that perfectly fits motherboard connector.
@pkt1213
@pkt1213 11 ай бұрын
Nice build. I would love to have one of those 45 drives cases. My major problem is having short rack space as I am using a network rack in the top of my closet, so I am currently cutting a few inches off the front of my case. 😀
@Aruneh
@Aruneh 11 ай бұрын
IIRC the 2 in 3-2-1 backup strategy means two different types of media. So I'm hoping for a video on a tape robot in the near future. :D
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 11 ай бұрын
Does Amazon's robotic tape library count? My 3rd backup is in Amazon Glacier Deep Archive :)
@TechnoTim
@TechnoTim 11 ай бұрын
Nice build! Curious to see if you can beat my "low power" Xeon!
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 11 ай бұрын
We shall see... 60 or 80W or something? It sounds like a challenge!
@joggienl
@joggienl 11 ай бұрын
22:41: "Hello there!"... sold!
@floridanelson
@floridanelson 11 ай бұрын
I'm crediting this video for my massive ARM stock gains yesterday.
@lukasbruderlin2723
@lukasbruderlin2723 10 ай бұрын
Love your videos! Hehe, that's totally me - always using screwdrivers as knives. Huuu, 150+ Watts in idle... for Test, or if you have paying customers, yes... but probably not for fun!
@sklise1
@sklise1 11 ай бұрын
Great video Jeff. Love sth. I want to build a nas w/ solidigm P5336 61T drives when I win the lotto.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 11 ай бұрын
That would be... yeah I think I'd have to sell my house haha
@NightHawkATL
@NightHawkATL 11 ай бұрын
I like that you are using ARM for your NAS. I just recently got acquainted with Rocky Linux for a test I am doing at work. I am glad it is available so that non-enterprise users can use it as a direct replacement for RHEL and CentOS. I look forward to see how you complete the setup. Just an FYI, I run TrueNAS Core on my Dell R720 with 4x Seagate Exos 18TB and 4x Seagate SAS 3TB drive with a dual 10G SFP+ NIC and the built-in quad NIC and it only draws 140w on average. I an running dual xeon 8c/16t procs and 128GB RAM. I thought newer hardware and ARM would be less power draw?
@IanFarquharson2
@IanFarquharson2 11 ай бұрын
Nice video. Will have a look and see what these run for in uk
@motmontheinternet
@motmontheinternet 11 ай бұрын
I really like my mini-ITX nas I mostly put together from stuff I have lying around and some drives, but this kind of thing is what I actually want to play around with.
@praecorloth
@praecorloth 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, having used both the 45Drives chassis, as well as the Rosewill. The 45Drive chassis is definitely worth the price tag. I have a bunch of the Rosewill cases in my lab. They are extremely flexible, and well thought out pieces of hardware for the price point. So if you just don't have the money for a 45Drives system, they're a great second choice. Rosewill has a set of components that allows you to easily change out the front of your chassis.
@CraigLabute
@CraigLabute 11 ай бұрын
FWIW checking in that I've booted an installed Rocky on an Ampere Altra (Jade platform) with no special action taken. Toss an arm64 image in the directory and boot.
@randrews4614
@randrews4614 11 ай бұрын
thanks very good video looking forward to chapter 2
@KlazikCZ
@KlazikCZ 11 ай бұрын
And here I was trying to figure out how to get my intel setup under 17 W idle.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 11 ай бұрын
Honestly for a typical *home* NAS, this machine would be waaaay overkill :D Also, one thing I've found with Ampere's chips is they are most efficient for medium to mostly-utilized workloads. If you run it idle most of the time, you can probably get a lower power budget with other CPUs.
@toseltreps1101
@toseltreps1101 11 ай бұрын
whats 17 vs 35 watts? honestly you waste and throw away more food than what you'll ever save in power costs.
@KlazikCZ
@KlazikCZ 11 ай бұрын
Correct me if I missed something, but the idle was approx 150 W (let's say 100 without the drives). That's still more than a 200$ difference in electricity costs where I live. But as Jeff said, this is a server for entirely different use case than a small home NAS. And sorry if the comment came out wrong. It was more about me being silly about a few watts than about comparing server grade hw to small home nas with a plex server.
@toseltreps1101
@toseltreps1101 11 ай бұрын
Yes i meant 17 watts vs. 35 watts of another system, not jeffs. Of course going from 350 to 17w idle is an entirely different story.
@giornikitop5373
@giornikitop5373 11 ай бұрын
@@JeffGeerlingthat's something very few understand. just because it's arm, doesn't mean it will draw less power than x86 in all cases.
@PrivateUsername
@PrivateUsername 11 ай бұрын
With all those Seagate drives, you might as well leave the top off, since their MTBF is shorter than the time it takes to put the lid back on :^)
@ZeroX252
@ZeroX252 11 ай бұрын
On the power switch: NO is Normally Open. NC is Normally Closed. And "C" is Common. There is continuity between NC and C when the switch is not pressed, between NO and C when the switch is pressed.
@ZeroX252
@ZeroX252 11 ай бұрын
It's pretty common that these switches get wired incorrectly.
@1stGruhn
@1stGruhn 10 ай бұрын
For switches, NC = normally closed, NO = normally open, C = common. It has to do with the default state of the circuit when wired: NO means an open circuit which the switch closes, NC means a closed circuit which the switch opens. C is the common which completes the circuit either way. Since power switches in computers only need to briefly toggle, it should always be wired NO so when the switch is pressed it closes the loop. It knows the circuit change due to a sensing voltage, usually around 3-5 volts of direct current (VDC) but quite low amperage.
@jmr
@jmr 11 ай бұрын
I was just working on a PC without an antistatic strap and simultaneously watching Jeff working on a PC without an antistatic strap. I thought "that's going to catch up to us!" Looks like it might have for Jeff but I got lucky! 😂
@williampaskewitz5383
@williampaskewitz5383 10 ай бұрын
Wow looks like it will work good
@toseltreps1101
@toseltreps1101 11 ай бұрын
Hey Jeff, good work as always. You look healthy, hope you are well!
@elmestguzman3038
@elmestguzman3038 11 ай бұрын
great build.. can wait to see the set up!!! Also excited for the new Dr. Who season?
@rebootretro
@rebootretro 11 ай бұрын
I got a few of those Logitech K400 keyboards too. Truly a great keyboard for bench testing! Definitely a favourite on my benches.
@meatbyproducts
@meatbyproducts 11 ай бұрын
I love this board and chip. Keeping an eye out for when they start to hit the secondary market. Also I was hoping that stupid orange overprice bit driver would have gone away by now.
@tommsla123
@tommsla123 11 ай бұрын
Nice build. I hope one day a standard mini-itx or m-atx MOBO Arm64 based CPU
@SBCDude
@SBCDude 11 ай бұрын
Your new studio looks so fancy
@getliquified
@getliquified 11 ай бұрын
Excellent video!😊
@movax20h
@movax20h 11 ай бұрын
Looks nice. Finally. Manual and features look really good. It also looks better than the WS system we saw, that had gimped memory channels, and price is right (the 10G version is little overpriced, but still good). Also it has enough power and VRM to support all CPU models I think. The boards are coming in. There is one review on a newegg. For the file server, virtualization host, and even a router, this is fantastic. I hope they also do work on E-ATX version, with maybe a bit more space between PCIe slots, for a GPU or two. Then I would totally use it as my desktop. But even then, I think it is just about right, I need 1 GPU, and 1 NIC (25/100Gbps). Which with big GPU, will basically use all slots. But then storage can be done using OCulink so that should be fine too.
@sourMH
@sourMH 11 ай бұрын
Would love to see more 3d printing content!
@adm1n175
@adm1n175 11 ай бұрын
Hi Jeff, did you try ventoy? 😅
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 11 ай бұрын
haha
@BrianG61UK
@BrianG61UK 11 ай бұрын
I love the way the first rail was waiting for Jeff to say "it doesn't come out" before it decided to come out. Typical.
@whitneydesignlabs8738
@whitneydesignlabs8738 11 ай бұрын
Great video. I just picked up a used, massive, old server with 14 drive bays, 2 power supplies, and lots of space for tinkering. Unfortunately it is too deep for my rack, and I am scared of the power draw. I'll have to hook up my kilowatt and see how it compares to your new setup, Jeff. :)
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 11 ай бұрын
Be prepared for anything! I've seen a few old systems power and sucking down like 300-600W :O A lot of them were also never tuned for power saving at all-and some platforms don't have much you can tweak either :/
@SproutyPottedPlant
@SproutyPottedPlant 11 ай бұрын
What a lovely chassis, it looks like a music computer!
@PaulaBean
@PaulaBean 11 ай бұрын
Your simple NAS is more powerful than my gaming rig. Game over for me.
@chrisrnz
@chrisrnz 11 ай бұрын
Interesting. A friend of mine is running 6x 3.5" HDD but on a ThreadRipper 3960x with a GTX1650 for some LLM dev. Idle power is 138W with load sitting around 190W when running inference tests. He's been bitching about the power draw for ages but these Ampere numbers make the TR build look pretty good. Might have to copy his build lol
@stemid85
@stemid85 11 ай бұрын
Cool build. I look forward to hearing how it performed over time. If you used encryption, CPU loads and such
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