OceanGate Titan Sub Debris Video Shows How It Imploded

[@EnderZigg]

Knowing the titanic is looming in the darkness just past this, totally out of sight as though it’s not even there…..is unsettling.

[@LittleKitty22]

It really is, and I find it spooky that the Titan was found in two main pieces plus the debris - just like the Titanic...

[@jassica78]

@@LittleKitty22I hadn’t even thought of that! That is such a scary coincidence.

[@jimmycline4778]

12 thousand feet is deep, but the deepest part of Ocean is 35 thousand ft 😨

[@sixpest]

its not. Two like minded Captains are to blame. Taking innocents lives while taking safety for granted.

[@jassica78]

@@sixpest I wasn’t implying that the coincidence is that they sank… I was implying that the wreckage being in two parts was a spooky coincidence. I’m fully aware of the fact both wrecks are down there because of two foolish men.

[@Burusagi]

The way it looms upright on the barren seafloor. A monument to one man’s hubris, and a tombstone for the other four.

[@QuinnMallory-od1hw]

It's not down there anymore, the titanic should probably be left alone now.

[@RMR1]

Absolutely, but hubris is just one part of the equation. Rush hit the trifecta -- unparalleled hubris, unabashed ego-centrism and uncontained idiocy.

[@craigfinnegan8534]

​​@@RMR1 There are always people who will follow that type and even put their lives in his hands, not in spite of his weaknesses but because of his weaknesses. Why? Because it puts them back in the role of trusting, innocent children, with all it's happiness. It puts them back in the past, drunken sailors on a sunken ship full of imagined treasures.

[@RMR1]

@@craigfinnegan8534 Indeed.

[@devinvarner8761]

Damn man that's deep.... deep

[@chuck_stones]

It is absolutely wild to me that they glued that thing together. I know nothing of mechanical engineering, harsh environments or anything related, but if someone told me they were going to glue together a pressure vessel to go even a few metres underwater, I'd have thought they were completely out of their minds. Absolute madness.

[@My2CentsYall]

Well it was gorilla glue so...

[@cosmokramer5055]

@@My2CentsYallI’ll tell ya what gorilla tape held my old car together for 3 years 😂

[@billymiller1249]

😢

[@jagpilotohio]

If industrial adhesives are used properly the bond is stronger than what they are bonded to. The carbon fiber would fail before the bonded area.

[@WillBlindYouWithLight]

Yes!!?! I never knew anything about this until I seen an hour ago what's left and just now how they built it. Even a nail technician can see where they went wrong with this whole operation. I mean come on I even know what happens when you add baking soda to super glue. I guess that's what they should have used baking soda and super glue it would have held it together better than what they used.

[@roblonsdale8927]

I love the pic of Rush wearing safety glasses and helmet on the deck of a ship... clearly safety was always his priority...

[@WilliamBonney-gl2qf]

I caught that too...Dude looked like he was going bike riding...but threw all caution to the wind for everyone on board. Ironic!

[@Liminal-Galaxy-System6819]

Gotta keep that ocean water outta his hair and eyes 😂🤣😂🤣

[@tailwhup]

imagine going deep down in the ocean to see one of the most famous tragedy’s ever, just to end up being a different tragedy.. imagine the irony if now people went on a second tour to see the ocean gate sub.

[@MrTribalsun]

and imagine that second tour named Ocean Curse also imploding and a second cone there side by side. And then imagine a 3rd tour to see...

[@avephoenix6637]

@@MrTribalsunI wouldn't be surprised....

[@legacyrsme]

@@MrTribalsun only Humans

[@samueldavis5895]

Imagine if we didn’t always start off a comment with “imagine”

[@hetfield144]

​@Peak humanity! MrTribalsun

[@AzgetFX]

Thank you for mentioning my work! I will do an update with the new information we have.

[@doobyboy21]

Amazing !

[@bravosierra2447]

Thank you for your work.

[@mcherryr]

Thank you

[@jeffostroff]

@@AzgetFX awesome I will be looking for it

[@ruperterskin2117]

Thanks, to both of ya.

[@anthonya04]

Wow I didn’t know they constructed it like this. I’m a NACE certified industrial and protective coatings engineer for context, basically I engineer protective coatings for extreme environments. You are absolutely correct, that titanium should have been sandblasted with an SP5 white blast abrasion at least, before the application of anything. Not only that, but it’s is insane to me they thought ANY adhesive would endure pressures so vast to secure carbon fiber to a titanium ring. That is unbelievable to me. There’s no adhesive in the world, not even polyamide epoxy dendrimers that can endure CONSTANT liquid pressure stress that extreme reliably. The “constant” is also a key aspect. It’s not intermittent strain, it is ceaseless strain. Kinda similar to muscles. You can withstand muscle strain easier and far longer with brief intermittent strain than you can with constant strain. Constant strain will lead to strength failure much faster

[@josephfilm73]

But Stockton was smarter than all you stick-in-the-mud college boy PhDs put together. He only hired interns lol. No joke.

[@vanzell1912]

Very informative

[@PRC533]

I think that the dissimilar compression profiles of the carbon fiber and titanium almost guaranteed that cyclical fatigue was going to create a failure at that seam. The other part that is shocking in how naieve it was is their "early warning" system. They literally put sensors on the hull to detect the vibrations of individual carbon fiber strands breaking as a way to warn them of a failure. This completely runs against the properties of carbon fiber, which holds fine until it doesn't and then it catastrophically fails. Add to that the fact that they cannot just pull a lever and start ascending at 30 meters/sec if that system ever did warn them and you get a piece of equipment that was almost purposely designed to kill people.

[@93_Silverado]

im glad someone more certified than me in this department had the same thoughts, my mind was blown when I heard they out that thing together with adhesive and thought it could go 12,500 feet underwater

[@dementionalpotato]

Other subs have used adhesives in the same context and did just fine.

[@ajc5370]

Great video I would say no one ever believed this was a search and rescue mission. They knew what happened but needed visual confirmation.

[@Liminal-Galaxy-System6819]

Well, people on the Polar Prince weren’t saying much about what happened 🤨

[@Zealant]

@@Liminal-Galaxy-System6819makes sense considering the last words were “all good here” from the Titan

[@nikkimaraviglia]

Seeing the brand name on the ocean floor is darkly poetic

[@AluminumOxide]

the oceangate scandal

[@ispres]

No it's not

[@Stealth55555]

Its the "Heaven's Gate" inverse... on the Ocean's Floor.

[@Chez8922-kf6cy]

Nikki, it is.

[@billp4]

They should have left it on the ocean floor.

[@Alexios254]

Interestingly enough the parts of the pressure vessel made out of the proper material (titanium) survived almost completely unscathed

[@sickmit3481]

Backpart isnt pressured so much less damage when it comes to the implosion which only rips apart the pressurized area

[@ButterfatFarms]

​@@sickmit3481Irrelevant. They weren't speaking about the unpressurized back with its equipment, they we're speaking of the titanium end caps that constituted the pressure vessel.

[@idiotsandwich4912]

@@ButterfatFarmsthe way you just came in hot with “Irrelevant” was funny. Sorry that was random but it was funny.

[@garycastronova7939]

​@@idiotsandwich4912smoking weed today, are we? 😂

[@bigguy4u989]

that’s the opposite of ironic

[@mrwilson7769]

Absolutely spot on , this man knew that it wasn’t safe but still took crazy amount of money to risk 5 lives

[@hildeschmid8400]

And then he couldn't use it anyway.

[@cameronfielder4955]

I actually think he was just too dumb to understand why it wasn't safe. He was a spoiled rich brat who probably sailed through life without anyone ever having the balls to tell him he was a buffoon. People like that are delusional and it gets worse over time. I highly doubt he knew it was risky otherwise he wouldn't have been in it.

[@TTTorpedOOO]

@@mrwilson7769 media, media

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

​@@cameronfielder4955Yeah, him going down with them is something beyond simple greed. No one would do that if they thought it was unsafe.

[@Ben-fx8lg]

You gotta remember though.. he wasn’t just a scammer.. He believed his own scam. Hence being in the vessel…

[@jisika_siris]

The thought of being in there so tightly packed gives me anxiety. May they rest in peace

[@neotheseattledj]

Watching this all i can think about is how smug and smart Stockton thought he was. The way he talked about the titan reminded me of confidence someone has when they are scamming the hell out of people and thinks nobody is gonna stop him

[@Jag-alskar-dig]

Exactly. And now we have a whole nation talking like Stockton Rush! MSM talking like Stockton Rush! Wow - how far we have come since that day. 🙈

[@fuckyougoogle836]

What he didn't realize is that the successful scammers do not believe in their scams' and don't believe what they are saying !

[@peterwexler5737]

Mr. Rush was the P.T. Barnum of the deep.

[@lateralus614]

the old snake ocean salesman.

[@markinoz4795]

bit like the donald

[@SticksAandstonesBozo]

I’m a high school drop out who has built homes for 30 years. And I’ve fully understood since I was 18 that you can not join rigid and flexible materials and put them under serious pressures.

[@AceyCamui]

Yeah right like I barely graduated high school but there's not way I'd get in that thing for free let alone pay 250k to do so. I know what the Titanic looks like, I really have no desire to see it miles under the ocean.

[@rebelspods]

​@@AceyCamuiimagine blowing a quarter mill to die in the blink of an eye

[@NihilismGuy]

Is building houses worth it, who taught you to build houses, and convince i should

[@Nangoncrazy]

​@@rebelspodsput perfectly 😂

[@peabody3000]

similarly, anyone who has ever shopped bicycle parts knows that carbon fiber that has been significantly stressed can fail instantly at any time of renewed stress even if it has been carefully inspected

[@Nick-P75]

I really feel so sad for the mother of the boy, who reportedly had anxiety before the trip and wanted to back out, only to be convinced by his father to go down.

[@SpaceGhostMars94]

That is the biggest ''I told you so'' ever.

[@superpsyched5624]

I thought the aunt reported that and the mother stated that she was originally going on the trip with her husband but her son really wanted to go so she let him go instead.

[@flying-magpie]

​@superpsyched5624 that's what i heard too. He wanted to get a world record with a rubix cube

[@oneseeker2]

Yes

[@oneseeker2]

He wanted to go

[@Devo_UTFR]

I’d watch videos like these for hours, Especially on this channel your voice gives of a sense of calm! Great work putting all this together for us 🫵 Top man!

[@rodrygolobato403]

Entende português?

[@matthewbanks187]

The thought of that amount of pressure is absolutely terrifying

[@HendersonHinchfinch]

Aint sht

[@AmrothEldarion]

First the titanic, now the titan... in 100 years, someone will dive the same spot with a vessel called "tit"

[@christina3521]

Pin this!

[@Sarky39]

😂😂😂😂

[@TCBE]

then it’ll be the t to come full circle

[@jenniferwenger4182]

You forgot the “s” 😂

[@EricLatios]

Apple will release a sub, named titan 2 pro x!

[@5point5six60]

The guy who put on the ratchet strap must’ve slapped it and said “she’s not going anywhere”

[@gheorghibaractari7489]

The comment I was looking for...

[@kristen34896]

I mean technically you’re right, it survived. It’s so wild to see what parts survived

[@fulcrumagent]

If thats the case then it wouldnt be damaged

[@SPACYtunes]

@@fulcrumagent UUUUUH, um, akshually, ummmmmmmm............

[@ryanlawrence8305]

Best comment!!😂😂😂

[@goniom7716]

Foreshadowing Fact: in 2010 a game called "Dive to the titanic" was released, the game is about diving to the wreck of the titanic in a submersible (Nephron, which is based on Mir 1 and 2), and doing several things like photographing and collecting artifacts. In the game, the narrator talks about the pressure of More than 380 bar and that a tiny hole would cause the submersible and its occupants to be torn into tatters in less than 2 seconds (which is much more than it would actually take), but thats not all, the mission in the games takes place over 5 days, just like there was 5 people onboard the sub, plus on the 5th day, an incident happens in the game which the player has to survive. Sometimes its crazy how some things can almost predict the future

[@mYpxels]

as a certified forklift operator, this guy for sure knows what he's talking about when it comes to submarine implosions.

[@Darin.Pearson]

Hahahahaha. Your comment gave me a good laugh.

[@Graycata]

Thank God you are here. We need more certified people in the discussion

[@Tassiedevil287]

😂

[@celtekrider2]

I'm a certified locksmith/doordash driver and I can confirm that this forklift operator is 100% correct.

[@erinc.1610]

As a substitute elementary/middle school teacher, I can definitely say without doubt that oceangate was not a good idea.

[@oufukubinta]

When even the designer of the sub doesn't wanna step foot inside it you know you've got a problem

[@CurtisJeffries-cd5vu]

an experience like none other... Titan. youll never wanna leave 2023 n beyond

[@fallingsky1984]

No that's not true.

[@briffsqueeze4063]

He was on the sub

[@nihlify]

@@briffsqueeze4063 They clearly means the engineer testifying. Keep up...

[@11131618570]

Lets hope TITAN-ic lessons were/are/will be learned

[@smorris281]

The fact that the sub was held together with glue is terrifying.

[@mortimerbrewster3671]

That was what I was thinking. There is no way I would get on an boat or airplane if the most important parts were held together with glue.

[@ZeitGeist_TV]

What's terrifying is them thinking you can make as many trips as they wanted without scanning for cracks and defects from repeated trips. To think that their warning system would give them enough time to ascend is crazy, no one on board had any idea they were about to die it just happened in a flash.

[@johnwalker1471]

Glue wasn’t the problem. Once under pressure you wouldn’t even need glue to hold it together.

[@apexeverything101]

@@johnwalker1471 clearly it was a problem lol

[@Y4932]

​​@@apexeverything101the carbon fiber hull imploded, it was not for the glue. Implosion is structural failure caused by the immense pressure. If the cause would be the leak it would have been different outcome

[@vauhner81]

4:51 I was a ROV pilot for quite a few years. The 2 green lasers you see are coming from one of their cameras. They are parallel beams at a distance of 10cm. So they are used as scale reference for measurements. The more you know.

[@russelllayman4017]

Great comment on the titanium surface prep and no gloves. I work around spacecraft and your comments are common knowledge for us. Those guys are so cavalier!

[@HVACRamjet]

He may have only been doing that for the video. The actual cleaning may have been done after the video was shot

[@EricLehmann-e7i]

To me they were Jacks of all trades chancers !

[@dx1450]

@@HVACRamjet I doubt it. The Oceangate people were pretty lax.

[@tgs1766]

@@HVACRamjetThe end results say you’re probably wrong.

[@Enter-a-name-7789]

Hi! I don’t understand, why does the titanium have to be sterilized? How can fingertips and oils contaminate it? Does it make the metal greasy or something else?

[@barkburton1]

I feel most for the kid that didn’t even want to go but did so because of his father. Sad all the way around

[@sapphireshore]

That story was apparently made up by an estranged family member. Apparently he told others that he was excited to go.

[@darreno1450]

Luckily, the son of one of the invited guests did some research and convinced his father not to go on it. Imagine how they felt after hearing about what happened.

[@Rob-157]

Same

[@cattymajiv]

@@sapphireshore Naturally. That's what people do. But inside they're screaming "NO! I DON'T WANNA GO ! ! !"

[@cookie.in.my.lungz650]

Yea...sad waste of money

[@TheBestEverEverEver]

I think the sub stuck in the ground with the brand visible is a sign that it’s time for the Titanic to be declared a burial grounds and forbid any further dives.

[@dx1450]

It pretty much was. Or at least there was an international agreement to not allow tourism dives like what Oceangate did. The only way they got around it was by declaring the passengers as "crew members" but they were essentially just buying tickets to go down in the sub.

[@ramstacp]

Declared “a burial ground” by whom? And on what authority? You just love governmental bodies telling you what you can and can’t do, huh? This guy was a mo-Ron, but as long as he’s not disturbing the site, he can do whatever he wants as far as I’m concerned. And those people also went voluntarily. It comes with living in a free society.

[@francinejones2524]

I agree. No more disturbing the titanic site. Leave it alone.

[@hissingoose]

Seeing the frame of this it’s a miracle it survived one trip down.

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

I never expected them to have such high quality and well lit video. It's really crazy when you realize whatever was left of the passengers was likely compressed into that debris that was pushed into the titanium end cap.

[@keithtorgersen9664]

And/or taken by the local ocean life.

[@Us3r739]

I bet you their clothes, hair and teeth are still there in a ball

[@Sandyo-wy7nk]

Would that white paste, all on the one side, be body parts?

[@Malama_Ki]

Good point about the adhesion. I’ve had cars with handprints rust through from under the paint where a worker touched it before painting.

[@TerryHickey-xt4mf]

I can vouch for that, when I was in the fiberglass industry, every time something went sticky, there was the handprint!

[@GackFinder]

It probably didn't help that they used grandma's old strawberry jam buckets to mix the glue

[@Set-it-to-11]

However, the touching was on the side of the seal ring that is bolted to the end dome cap and not the U shaped inner and outer lips that surrounded the end of the carbon fiber tube, and where the glue was applied.

[@Malama_Ki]

@@Set-it-to-11 and how did that work out?

[@Mr.Blonde92]

​@@Set-it-to-11oh ok, whew for a moment there i thought this was gonna be bad 👎 😃

[@2007cgarza]

I was walking with friends a few years ago at Everett WA Marina, they were displaying this same capsule telling anyone who would listen walking by how this was going to be traveling down to the Titanic. I stuck my head into the thing, and when I see the parts, on the bottom of the ocean aside the Titanic, I'm still. disturbed. I wish very much I had taken a photo of the thing, but had no clue what would happen. I feel the most for the teenage son, have read he was very hesitant but didn't want to disappoint his dad who was taking him on the thing.

[@MotorsportCreative]

I don’t know too much back story on any of the people involved, but just see that people died. Hopefully something good comes out of the tragedy.

[@forrestfyre7846]

​@MotorsportCreative Something good DID come out of this. A reminder as to why you don't make your submarines out of popsicle sticks and Elmer's Glue.

[@ronfullerton3162]

​@@forrestfyre7846You do not shortcut and scrimp on the construction of a machine such as this. There was plenty of facts, and much history of deep diving structures that had people in the know very leary of this deep diver. And the fact that it's construction and use was kept away from possible controlling regulations and inspections speaks loudly.

[@MotorsportCreative]

@@forrestfyre7846 but is there any actual regulation enforceable by law? A agency that oversees production, permits, and undersea tourism?

[@mallk238]

@Motorsports7846 if im not mistaken, yes. Or at least there ARE regulations in place for this stuff. Stockton was told several times he wasn’t allowed to do this. He deliberately found ways to skirt the regulations, but that doesn’t change the fact that they absolutely have them and likely DID try to enforce them.

[@julieannalbuzbeba253]

First time seeing this channel! This is beyond amazzzing! The knowledge and detail shown here is just beyond....anything...I've yet to see on this subject. It's so unbelievably heartbreaking. Going to check out some of the old videos you mentioned at the end. Definitely subscribing! Great, great work here to everyone involved in the making of these videos. The graphic detail of the Titan itself is just so well done. Thank you for this and for remembering the poor souls who lost their lives in this tragedy with the respect they deserve.

[@vincentnavea6999]

naming the sub almost like the name of the Titanic is already a bad omen. And oceangate seems similar to watergate. Hehe

[@agnosticlibertarian175]

Comes full circle

[@maryjanedodo]

Titan, in Greek mythology, are any of the children of Uranus (Heaven) and Gaea (Earth) and their descendants...

[@JohnZimm_80085]

Never a good idea to attach the prefix "titan-" or "concord-" to your product.

[@vedob5163]

Right 😅

[@simunator]

​@@JohnZimm_80085titan missiles did pretty well. titanfall too

[@veebee3837]

I had no idea that there were still big chuncks of it. That's pretty much 1/3 of the sub right there at 0:45. I thought the whole thing was crushed like a tin can.

[@MrShameemabdulla]

This was the unpressurized tail part! Anything pressurized was blown to bits!

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

The carbon fiber everyone said wouldn't hold is destroyed, but the titanium looks relatively intact,

[@piagabing3287]

That big chunk seen in the video is made out of titanium which can withstand heavy underwater pressure. However, the main body (also the area where the passengers are sitting) was made out of carbon fiber which isn't a smart choice for this type of expedition craft given that it is extremely fragile and isn't ideal to be used in salt water. Also to note that the atlantic ocean is the saltiest out of the five ocean basins, it therefore made the implosion to possibly happen in just milliseconds.

[@Minders609]

Is that a angler fish in the background or what is it?? In the background??

[@ReallyBored-10125]

​@@Minders609another part most likely

[@kerwynbrat5771]

The body of the sub shows the implosion was at that forward dome. The entire sub body is smashed into the rear dome. There are small pieces scattered but if you look closely you can see that the sub body simply was "sucked" back into the rear dome indicating a front ring failure. So the implosion was front to back.

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

Not just the sub body but the passengers too. Whatever was left of them was compressed into that debris... It's pretty eerie seeing it. I didn't know they had such high quality footage of it.

[@goldenhate6649]

I mean, the front dome was the section everyone pointed to as absolutely not being up the snuff

[@ronfullerton3162]

Scott Manley has a video out on the testimony and video that has been shown so far in the inquiry. And his take on what happened is very much the same as what you have text in this comment. The failure started at the front, and crammed everything into the back dome. At least the speed of the implosion is so quick, that the crew had no time to realize what happened.

[@demonqueen881]

@@ronfullerton3162 The sad part about that is that it's starting to sound like it didn't "just happen" like original reports seemed to indicate. There may have been several minutes prior when the passengers knew something was going wrong? That is terrifying in of itself to imagine. But at least like you said, the very moment of destruction was too fast for anyone to comprehend. That at least is one mercy. Better to be instant than to linger and suffer in darkness.

[@ronfullerton3162]

@@demonqueen881 For sure. I guess that I have missed the part that there may of been a forewarning. I guess I need to dive back into the reports. Thank you for your reply.

[@AvocatDude]

The fact that the owner and builder was in the vessel, just blows me away he must’ve truly believed that was safe

[@andrewolmstead2972]

The entire Titan is a "hold my beer," operation.

[@dx1450]

I would never ride in a submarine built by someone who said "At some point, safety is just pure waste."

[@oscaranderson5719]

⁠@@dx1450I wouldn’t ride an escalator made by a dude who said that, much less a deep-ocean submersible 😂

[@julieannalbuzbeba253]

Ya....hold my beer while I do this shot....

[@historylover13]

Thank you for this, it's really haunting and was totally preventable. Ego kills.

[@johnc8327]

Cutting corners using the cheaper carbon fiber over the more expensive TItanium killed them.

[@hilly1122]

That tail cone probably stayed so intact because it wasn't pressurized, right? Obviously the pressure vessel was obliterated, but it looks like the force of the implosion shot the shell away and saved it's structure.

[@jeffostroff]

yes, it was outside the pressure chamber so none of the fiberglass shell imploded

[@mertonallowicious]

@@jeffostroffheck the ratchet strap even stayed on!😅

[@devmakeitrev]

@@mertonallowiciousyeah what tf is that about😂😂😂

[@goaway152]

Looking at the forward half it looks like the forward seal ring was what may have failed. I imagine we'll get to see updated corrected implosion physics videos. Up until now the implosion point has always been in the center because everyone thought the carbon fiber itself failed. Scott Manley spotted this when he did his video on the new footage

[@ronfullerton3162]

​@@goaway152This video and Scott Manley's video together have very good information and help with the understanding of the situation. It is great to have u-tube creators that produce the quality of videos that these two have done for us.

[@generaciondevalor7042]

Por el simple hecho de decir: "estaré haciendo video mostrando los detalles más jugosos para ustedes". Te has ganado un nuevo suscriptor, esa palabra me entusiasmo mucho. Estaré pendiente a todos tus videos, muchas gracias 🙏🏼☺️

[@KeytonsChannel]

Bro I am subscribing. This commentary was so thorough I searched everywhere for information and sh*t always seems so cryptic thanks for making it easy

[@ernstjunger2835]

Great you highlighted how chilling it must've been when this wreck suddenly appeared in your headlights, below 3000m in darkness. Strolling around this graveyard and possibly seeing human remains too.

[@katydid917]

Any humans remains from the Titanic would be long gone by now.

[@yxjou]

​@@katydid917and from the sub?

[@2dheethbar]

I imagine at least bones or bone fragments would still be down there. Maybe even shreds of clothing.

[@bernidre]

@@2dheethbar From the titanic? Those would have been desolved many decades ago. Only clothing and other items would survive.

[@robbybee70]

@@bernidre bones can last quite awhile, not sure they wouldn't be burried tho

[@Narxes081206]

That director of engineering can kiss his career goodbye. No one will ever hire him for engineering purposes.

[@soulure]

He protested and they fired him. Not sure who the incompetent engineer who replaced him was.

[@EsteemedReptile]

​@@soulureI actually don't think he even WAS replaced. I think Stockton Rush just winged it after firing him. Happy to be proven wrong though.

[@Distant_INC]

Look at the aft titanium ring. It's sheared into two pieces. The amount of force it takes to do that is unbelievable.

[@Coreycry]

do you have a timestamp? for those like me who have no knowledge about construction materials

[@Distant_INC]

@Coreycry 3 months later, I'm gonna say it's somewhere between the start and end of the video. Aft means rear. Look for a metal ring that is split in two pieces.

[@WackyModder84]

Scott Manley did a good analysis video on the wreckage. He pointed out that all of the carbon fiber seems to have been crumbled into a ball towards the rear of the vessel when it imploded. That seems to indicate that the catastrophic failure occured somewhere in the front of the vessel. We know it's not the portal window, but it could very well be around the area where the titanium ring was connected to the front area that gave way.

[@bccsivxx-xxivvii]

That carbon fiber just crumbled to pieces. You can see them all over the ocean floor.

[@jeffostroff]

I would love to see a body cam of that implosion

[@bccsivxx-xxivvii]

@@jeffostroff crazy to think about. Have they said if they ever found any remains? Appreciate your videos btw. Always very interesting.

[@TheeDanIslander]

@@jeffostroffwhat would of happened to their bodies ?? There is go pro footage down there for sure

[@deltasyn7434]

shattered like glass.

[@girlingoldboots5273]

​They said they found apparent remains, and tested them and found that they had genetics of all the decedents. ​@@bccsivxx-xxivvii

[@LiveToHuntAndFish]

I still remember looking at that thing when it was strapped onto a flat deck transport truck that was parked right across the street from my house, I went over and took a picture that day of the Titan ..and remember looking at it..wondering if it was a ROV or a submarine ...i know it just looking at it, gave me this Gut feeling ...this is unsafe...anyways it left a few days later and i never saw it again ...oddly enough it arrived back on a truck bed again across the street from my house after the disaster..this time enclosed in a large shipping container in pieces..

[@jeffostroff]

You should post the photo

[@milkphish4122]

Wow. That is a remarkable story.

[@rrip1527]

The tube squeezed and popped the glued on end cap off like driving a dump truck over a 20 oz bottle of water.

[@HumanHamCube]

Damn St John's representing.

[@LiveToHuntAndFish]

@@jeffostroff I would but I am not actually Sure how ..to tell the truth I am new to the whole youtube posting thing ..I have tried to post a few Hunting and fishing videos but it all came out like crap so i just erased them... I must add that i did not take a picture of its return .. simply because the shipping container was closed from view ..but you could also see the large crane system that they used to retrieve the sub which was also on the trailer .. which was visible, my neighbor talked to the Truck Driver and he said that the Titan parts were in the enclosed shipping container.

[@joedrive9423]

Hearing the crackling and "gunshot" noises from the hull leading up to the implosion must have been terrifying. All the terror of all the passengers confined in that space. Unimaginable fear as the hull incrementally disintegrates around them. Just horrible. Unbelievable how many smart people were sold by the OceanGate sales pitch.

[@YAWSSSSSS]

They were never smart to begin with.

[@jakephillips4453]

The implosion was so fast they wouldn't have been able to register what happened. They died without knowing it.

[@joedrive9423]

​@@jakephillips4453 there was crackling from hull deamination before the implosion

[@movzhepok]

Absolutely agree that what his filmed at 11:28 looks frankly like the front dome that had the acrylic viewport (the unfamous viewport rated of not even half of the depth they were going to). Another good take on this one, thanks for your work !

[@chrismaverick9828]

The more I find out the more I am aghast at the sheer stupidity of that guy. You cannot toss out hundreds of years of sea-faring knowledge, most of which was earned via death and tragedy, and expect good things to happen. The sea will kill you if you give it a chance or dare mock it. Sometimes the sea will take you even if you are prepared and respectful. Point being you don't make light of it. Such a waste of life. I bet that guy that bailed on his seat is thankful for every morning he wakes up.

[@thomasgirty6397]

we live in a very defined surviveable area. the higher or lower you go the risk of death rise's exponentialy.

[@Wannes_]

The US Navy actually had an experimental deep submersible using this technology Probably somewhat better executed ... and not as cheap

[@HandyDandy6]

​@Wannes_ they probably do the actual pmcs required to keep a carbon fiber submarine operational. The issue with oceangate is they seem to have been try7ng to squeeze profit out of this submarine to failure

[@onemoremisfit]

How about the other people who went on earlier dives in that death trap and lived to tell of it? They are a in a lucky club too.

[@forrestfyre7846]

The problem is that people forget that a lot of these things are there for a reason, because it's been so long since it was found out in the first place.

[@lpete2766]

I saw these pictures the other day on Y T but thought they were fake or click bait . Went i saw them on your channel i knew they were real THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK !

[@flipfloppingwithMike]

This video rattled me to the core. It is hard to fathom the horror that must have ensued for the passengers inside. I don't even want to think about it. I already have a crippling fear of deep water, so watching this really put me over the cliff. These people had to endure unimaginable panic and terror and could do nothing at all about it. I cannot write anymore.

[@GeckoHiker]

Seeing the name "OceanGate" on the ocean floor with the Titatic somewhere close by reminded me of the Heaven's Gate cult for some reason.

[@ExhaustedScarf]

Ocean gate as a company is pretty cult-like, honestly. Not the worst connection in the world to make.

[@GeckoHiker]

@@ExhaustedScarf Thank you. I think that's the connection--the cult. After all the various news stories about the CEO's deliberate safety violations it does seem cult-like in retrospect.

[@WesD85]

The fact that everything is soo close together on the seafloor makes me think it must have imploded very close, if not, on the bottom of the ocean.

[@midnighthrs]

Yeah I think I saw somewhere that they lost contact with the Titan very close to the bottom of the ocean

[@jaevric]

According to the Coast Guard hearings, they probably imploded within two seconds of their last text message to the surface at a depth of about 10,980 feet. Her wreck is at 12,395 feet, so her debris sank about 1,415 feet post-implosion.

[@Mrwinniedh]

Implosion would sadly keep the debris field small, opposite to that of an explosion.

[@PottsyUK]

It was approx 500 metres from the seabed.

[@alfreddamato5402]

Could sea water leak in slowly at first , while they were still alive?

[@mrtjbiga1784]

GLUE! F-ING GLUE. This guy was out of his mind to think that would hold up

[@nihlify]

The glue wasn't really the problem. Other deep diving crafts uses adhesives with no issues. The problem was the overall design and lack of safety protocols.

[@sparthyslaysstuff2405]

@@nihlify Mating the carbon fiber to the titanium rings *was* the big problem. Most other subs use one uniform material, the point where two materials meet is a big point of failure given repeated pressurization cycles. Rush was told this was not advised given they didn't even bond the materials correctly and yet he persisted. Not getting the sub certified by peers or doing proper sea trials before releasing Titan on the public was a disaster waiting to happen.

[@blakephillips381]

Exactly then slapped a game control from Walmart in it.....overly arrogant and cocky.

[@laupoke]

why are you saying that like you know anything about designing submarines

[@laupoke]

@@blakephillips381 I don't think the controller had anything to do with it imploding.

[@Obiter3]

Very good point about the smoothness of the titanium ring's surface

[@ionuti2658]

that surface of the ring is the top one, conected with the end caps , which the man was wipeing with the rag. the bottom one we don't see, is U shaped.

[@jesperwall839]

Not a good point at all, as that’s not how this kind of adhesive works.

[@kat8canary77]

I am bothering my friends and family with summaries of the Coast Guard hearings. So far, truck bed liner used to seal the hull and Stockton's hissy fit throwing the Playstation controller at Lochridge are the best. I read the threat/lawsuit that Oceangate filed against Lochridge and the best of that was page 7 when it said Lochridge mooned Tony Nissen and the engineering crew. I am hoping for more breaks during the hearings, I feel for the very pregnant Coast Guard officer. Bedtime, the hearings start at 7:15 am for me. Thank you for explaining what the debris was. I saw the clips but had no idea what I was seeing.

[@Bright_Broccoli]

I appreciate your comment.

[@j.t.cooper2963]

I worked in composites (specifically carbon fiber) at Boeing for 30 years and I can't believe they thought that an epoxy based adhesive was going to hold that titanium to the carbon fiber under those kind of pressure loads over and over. I actually bonded carbon fiber shims to titanium wing spars on the A-6 re-wing program as a repair when the machine shop milled too much of the titanium off of the wing spars. We kind of thought that was crazy but Engineering and the Navy approved those repairs and those did last until the jets were finally retired.

[@SaffronWorldCR]

The carbon fiber used in aeronautics is perfectly fine for that use. The issue is that you can't (or shouldn't) use carbon fiber for submersibles because carbon fiber excels in tension load (great for planes) but sucks in compression load (deep-sea). Also, carbon fiber will fail instantly, titanium on the other hand will give you signs of starting to break so you have time to react. Carbon fiber has porosity which isn't a big deal for a plane, but you don't really want water entering your underwater vehicle... The only reason this guy made the sub out of carbon fiber is because it was cheaper, not because it was better or a good idea. Rich guys think they are rich because they're smarter than anyone else, well here's the results of that theory.

[@colinbm2010]

@@SaffronWorldCR I don't understand why the only used a single curve surface for the tube & not a two curve surface like a wooden barrel ?

[@erikarnstrom897]

I think the idea was the water pressure shold push the titanium dome against the carbon wall. As long as the carbon hull did not flex it should be okey. If water came into the hull the domes and window would be pushed off. If the window failed due to preassure from outside I think it would have been sent through the cabin into the rear dome and smashed or pushed it off. If the hull collapsed, the water preassere should pushed the domes off.

[@j.t.cooper2963]

@@SaffronWorldCR I worked in composites for 30 years and porosity is a big deal for aircraft. All of the carbon fiber parts for aircraft has to be sealed so water doesn't penetrate the part and then freeze at altitude. I agree that money doesn't equal intelligence.

[@TerryHickey-xt4mf]

when I worked in the carbon fiber industry, I could not believe they actually wound the strands like a barrel, there is not much strength in just that single linear way, did they weave it in a diagonal way as well? which we used to do.

[@YogidancingBear]

I served in the United States Air Force doing structural maintenance. From my six years of experience, working with advanced composites it's crazy to think any engineer would allow this. All this work should be in a "clean room". Bonding your epoxy equally needs to be done in a vacuum bag which I haven't seen. Crazy to play around with that kind of pressure just winging it.

[@wkeil1981]

YOU telling me this was glued together?

[@pedros1]

With peanut butter, not glue 😅

[@dawnanderson4967]

With a few bolts.

[@kohedunn]

The 'control 'apparatus was the givaway for me...I thought it was a Joke when I first saw it... it wasn't a joke ..

[@jenniferwenger4182]

If he made that with Lego bricks, all glued together, it would have held far more better together than that thing

[@Howard_Hunter_]

The folly of Rush is astounding.

[@FanDancer]

The fact he went by Stockton when his name was Richard. Oh and don’t forget the III . Pompous, moi?

[@bb-gc2tx]

stockton crushed 🤣

[@Shazzadut1]

No I think his arrogance is astounding.

[@GackFinder]

Stockton Mush

[@Dan-q6v1v]

"It is no big deal gping down there. I don't know what all the fuss is about?".....S. Rush. 2023.

[@fionanatalieholden5965]

Thank you Jeff! Really can't wait for you wrapping up this story, I have followed you from almost day one and you have done an incredible job, with no bs, just considered engineering analysis. Well done and thanks for all your hard work ❤

[@jeffostroff]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@fionanatalieholden5965]

@@jeffostroff No problem! You are the awesome one! One little favour to ask, would it be too much trouble for you to put in the same background music for your final stuff on OceanGate? would make it all tie up nicely. Thanks x x x

[@davidzuk4894]

I am a structural engineer that designs building structures, but I think some things still apply. In looking at shear resistance of materials, and my expertise is concrete, a smooth concrete joint gives you the least shear capacity using a modifier of .6. An intentionally roughened surface gives you a maximum shear capacity multiplier of 1.4. Putting a very smooth titanium ring against a smooth carbon fiber surface and expecting a glue to hold all of this together seems nuts to me. Based on building structures, we would provide some type of physical mechanical connection between 2 pieces being connected. I would think here where we have 2 dissimilar materials (titanium and carbon fiber) with different coefficients of thermal expansion, that we would want some type of physical mechanical connection between the 2 pieces, because when these 2 materials are shrinking or expanding differently, internal stresses on that glued surface could be great.

[@midnighthrs]

I can’t even imagine the kind of fear those men must’ve been before they perished. Seeing videos of what the implosion could’ve looked like for their bodies is absolutely haunting. They didn’t experience any pain from the implosion because it happened faster before their brains could process it but.. the fact that they were gone just like that. No traces of them left behind. It’s absolutely devastating. I really hope ocean gate shuts down, this tragedy could’ve been preventable. RIP to all the victims ❤️

[@SlickArmor]

The strap and the Playstation controller are still doing their job. So much for all the experts.

[@hille422]

Yeah but that peanut butter glue and the carbon fiber, not so much.

[@SlickArmor]

@hille422 The peanut butter was basically a seal, the 3million pounds of force kept it pushed together. The carbon fiber also worked but he cheaped out on specs. It called for 5in but he stopped at 3.75in once more cost cutting. The ship also had a limited life span and he failed to properly find that number. Why? Penny pinching again. BTW, that peanut butter was another brilliant cost saving off the shelve product. It was Rhino coat truck bed sealer. 😄 not kidding.

[@BukBuk187]

Wasn't it a Logitech controller?

[@SUPRAMIKE18]

​@@BukBuk187it was a knockoff of a Logitech design with a 2 star rating on Amazon.

[@BukBuk187]

@@SUPRAMIKE18 oof that's even worse

[@Porschik]

6:03 The second titanium cone is clean of any carbon fiber because it's a hatch door. It was not supposed to be glued to the hull. I believe it was bolted down.

[@maryellerd4187]

Thanks for pointing that out, I had forgotten. However, was the titanium ring not glued to the cylinder and the nose cone bolted to the titanium ring? Something failed in that area for the collapse pattern that occurred and it will be interesting to see if an analysis of the parts they retrieved are able to show what it was. I feel like real dolt that I had forgotten that critical piece of information.

[@Handlebar-MustDash]

Both great points about the composition of the titanium hatch - absolutely the ring very likely was still bolted to the hatch one side and the side now exposed would have been chemically bonded to the hull originally.

[@HunterAtheist]

Yep. The front was on a hinge.

[@Set-it-to-11]

The tube was glued to a seal ring. The ring was bolted to the front dome. During the failure, the ring separated from the tube. I am surprised but the dome also separated from the ring, shearing the 15 or so bolts that had held the end dome on for the dive.

[@HunterAtheist]

@@Set-it-to-11 Many people have mentioned how they only put as few as *4* bolts in the dome, and on one occasion, the front some fell off after an impact sheared off the few bolts that were holding it on. It's mind boggling that they would even conduct a dive with one bolt missing, let alone 3/4 of them not in place.

[@jamesswan882]

They got the full titanic experience.

[@LordFarquaad967]

The titanic didnt implode and kill everyone instantly.

[@Desperate4Freedom.]

😂 for that price, they should!

[@carlostavaresjr958]

5 grown men were compressed to the rear titanium dome under the carbon fiber, sadly. Remember the sub did make about 28 trips to the titanic prior to the accident. I believe the fatigue on the cabon fiber and lack of inspection is the what resulted into this accident. That sub would have been expired after 5 dives.

[@IntegerOfDoom]

You meant to say "gladly"

[@joshuakelleher-bw5dg]

That’s insane that the 29th time was the one that did it though, and it just so happened to be the trip with all of them in it.

[@jlonyt1]

Google says 13

[@georgehampton7579]

They are packed in that rear hemisphere. I could not imagine the job of investigating that section of the sub.

[@SuperMarkizas]

They’re not, the heat eviscerated most recognisable human material

[@georgehampton7579]

@@SuperMarkizas there was evidence of human remains in the wreckage, Im sure it was miniscule.

[@georgehampton7579]

@@SuperMarkizas they have reported evidence of remains in the wreckage. Unrecognizable....... Obviously.

[@paulgunovich2766]

Hollywood will be doing a movie about this for sure

[@TheDeepImpact965]

James Cameron will for sure

[@hughjanus5518]

For sure, Stockton Rush was woke, they will try and paint him as a hero.

[@flying-magpie]

​@@hughjanus5518 the hell are you talking about?

[@Cy93]

​@@TheDeepImpact965 I hope you're joking because one of his dear friends was in the Titan 😢

[@mikehenson819]

When I was a kid, I recall asking why diving bells were round, and was told because a sphere was the ideal shape of the vessel to endure the pressure of the deep sea. Somehow I understood what was told me, and the first time I saw this thing I knew it was a very risky shape to begin with. The fact that the assembly of the vessel with dissimilar materials was a bad idea too.

[@TravisTrittFan]

I came across your channel a while back, long before the Titan sub incident...but I'll say that of all the channels covering the Titan sub controversy, yours is the one that always keeps me captivated. I should have been in bed 30 minutes ago, but I just saw you posted this new video and I'm like nope. Grabbed me a Coke and some peanut butter crackers and imma sit here and watch this. Thank you!

[@jeffostroff]

I should have been in bed too, but video editing kept me up later

[@TravisTrittFan]

@jeffostroff Well your dedication is appreciated! Get some rest, its been earned and well deserved.

[@christopherpoucher483]

Gotta be a shoe somewhere

[@milkphish4122]

@@jeffostroffYour stuff is always the best, Jeff. Thanks for this video. Been waiting more than a year for it.

[@Mae-nr7wr]

captivated with factious transcripts

[@kiwidiesel]

Ocean gate, the first company to have an advertisement sign placed at the site.😂

[@Imperyon]

If only it didn't advertise failure.

[@lochlanmuir2291]

@@Imperyonthat’s sad.

[@TheAncientOneYT]

@@Imperyon It didn't fail, it did exactly what even dumb dumb Stockton knew it could possibly do. Even he knew there was a high chance of failure despite him acting cocky and sure of his equipment. He operated on pure faith not facts. When you brag about not supposed to be using carbon fiber because of tested reasons but you are saying, nope, it will hold, not only are you in denial of physics, but denial of what reality is. Guy was playing a video game with peoples lives at stake. Controller Included ...

[@tencentpistol1]

Its funny cuz it's sad!!!😂😂😂

[@gordonwelcher9598]

At 4:56 a pair of dentures can be clearly seen on the rear surface of the capsule next to the ball of rope. I guess the Polygrip didn't hold this time.

[@Itsallwrongbutthatsallright]

Navy heard the implosion but kept it a secret to not disclose ability to heard stuff over large bodies of water to enemies. The 'rescue' mission going on for days was just for show. And frankly, anyone with the slightest knowledge of diving and pressure or insight in materials used to build the sub, knew that 390+ Bars of pressure is a unforgiving environment and they were gone ! It happened so fast, their brains didn't register the event. However, they may very well have heard cracking sounds before the implosion and that must have been absolutely terrifying !

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

I wouldn't say it was just for show since the people searching didn't know it imploded. But while they were searching I was personally pretty surprised people thought they might still be alive...

[@slickest123452]

if they didn’t want to reveal that capability why did James Cameron know about the detected implosion from an inside source within hours of the sub going missing? It was basically a twisted version of the trolley problem because they know the system isn’t 100% accurate. If they say nothing, the search goes on for a few days until it’s physically impossible for them to have survived (ran out of air). But if they say something, the rescue becomes a recovery (still spending tons of money to find the sub), and the lack of urgency/change in search method could have led to them being discovered having suffocated to death while floating at the surface with no power or coms, or entangled in some cables on the titanic that an ROV could have easily cut them free from. It wasn’t worth the risk for them to assume what they detected was 100% the titan imploding, and call off the rescue prematurely. How bad would the person who made that decision feel if they could have saved the crew in time?

[@Itsallwrongbutthatsallright]

@@bobbygetsbanned6049 True, I stand corrected, the searchers didn't know. It must have been pretty daunting for them to realize afterward that it was all in vain. Think of all the resources wasted and the families hoping for a miracle but being kept in the dark.

[@matthewp1682]

Correct. They knew the sub was destroyed however media dragged it out as long as they could to milk this story

[@oreos922]

They have to keep searching because of Murphys law. What if they had survived and that explosion was a coincidence.

[@shellsbignumber2]

When the CEO describes the glue as being like peanut butter, that's when I would start to have serious doubts. 6:56.

[@SvPVids]

you can still see the bag filled with the Styrofoam cups with everyone's signature hanging from the back

[@blakerodriguez5999]

At what time?

[@xxfalconarasxx5659]

Where?

[@NoNameNo.8]

​@@blakerodriguez5999it's at 0:23. The white bag hanging down in the middle above the strap where the sides of the tailcone meet.

[@lyndadtekaat1151]

Wow!! Good eye!! Seeing the debris and how some pieces weren't obliterated as previously thought. Originally everyone was saying with implosion, there'd be hardly anything remaining, the Titan, etc.. Makes me wonder just how long they knew of their demise, doom.

[@JuliusCaesar888]

It's literally a tombstone in that shot

[@charron1]

Game controller would be an interesting find

[@cr1ticaL-]

lol

[@AgentGodzillaRP1701]

Probs shattered

[@PaulTaylor1]

Yep, I kept looking for it among the bits of debris!

[@adnan4948]

Haha

[@Magnarmis]

The game controller had bits carbon fiber blown through it at twice the speed of sound, was probably turned into shrapnel itself and blown through an unexpencting victim. Bits of it may be lodged in the rear cone.

[@tripodcatz5532]

I've just started a new dive service to the Titanic with a submarine I built from stuff I bought at Home Depot. This will be a pay-in-advance 'Self-guided tour'. Basically, you pay me and I put you in the Sub and tell you how to operate it. Not responsible for death or injury! No refunds. Prices subject to change.

[@douglasb5046]

Hilarious

[@StefanosP208]

can i bring my own controller ?

[@HuskyLover615]

​@@StefanosP208Just make sure it's not a Logitech F710 wireless gamepad.

[@Kyle-it2kq]

Where do I sign?!?!

[@kranichkrone]

The "Logitech gamepad" thing just shows what a cheapskate this company is... Or was. I just hope Logitech's name doesn't get tainted because of this, they don't deserve it.

[@roberta5292]

That is a huge peace of the titan. I thought there wouldn't be pieces left with the force of the implosion 😮

[@michaellodge5456]

The animation of what the implosion mightve looked like was nuts.

[@PeaceMarauder]

Now we know it probably failed from the front top or sides and imploded to the aft knocking loose the tail cone. The sub hit aft dome first and leaned over. The carbon chunks are packed to the aft. I'd love to see a new animation of this.

[@eileenfletcher6520]

​@PeaceMarauder it would be interesting if they replicate sub with jelly dummies same weight as passengers etc and do a dive n record implosion to see what it's like like a csi investiation or myth busters. I mean you can get idea of what happened but still hard to really think about what it was like. But ya it's interesting to see more details come out.

[@PeaceMarauder]

@@eileenfletcher6520 That'd cost a dollar or two :P

[@iwantthe80sback59]

It was on Rogan wasn’t it?

[@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen]

​@@PeaceMarauderRealistically they can just use a submerged carbon fiber tube, since that's the part that failed. You don't need to replicate the titanium doing it's job.

[@elmerkilred159]

Well, he did say the adhesive was like peanut butter, so the fish probably made sandwiches out of it for lunch before the camera found the sub parts.

[@zombiephil]

This comment is adorable and reminds me of lilo and stitch

[@Mr.Blonde92]

Well they also had red jelly

[@Purgatory_Pal]

@@Mr.Blonde92 that is insane

[@Kristine-x1t]

Haunting footage. I am reminded of a line from the song 'The Edmond Fitzgerald' written and performed by Gordon Lightfoot..."Where does the love of God go, when the minutes turn into hours."

[@maryellerd4187]

I think in this wreck, it was milliseconds. Gordon Lightfoot was a treasure. I was lucky enough to see him live in concert.

[@Kristine-x1t]

@maryellerd4187 Yes, the vessels were extremely different, the loss of life near immediate with this. It would've been an experience of a lifetime to have seen Gordon perform, a memory to treasure, thank you for sharing.

[@cattymajiv]

@@maryellerd4187 I saw him live in my very first concert ever, at about 10 years old, in Winnipeg, in about 1970. It was just him on guitar, and 2 supporting guitar players, which is exactly what I would choose if I could somehow see him again. I think at that time he hadn't yet written The Wreck Of The Edmonton Fitzgerald, but the songs they did do were note perfect, and were all such wonderfully evocative, beautiful, wonderful songs. Even though it was around 54 years ago, it literally brings me to tears every time I think of it. Many years later I saw Elton John by himself, with just his piano, again in the way that I had most wanted to see him. Both experiences were absolute ecstasy!

[@cattymajiv]

@@Kristine-x1t I saw him live in my very first concert ever, at about 10 years old, in Winnipeg, in about 1970. It was just him on guitar, and 2 supporting guitar players, which is exactly what I would choose if I could somehow see him again. I think at that time he hadn't yet written The Wreck Of The Edmonton Fitzgerald, but the songs they did do were note perfect, and were all such wonderfully evocative, beautiful, wonderful songs. Even though it was around 54 years ago, it literally brings me to tears every time I think of it. Many years later I saw Elton John by himself, with just his piano, again in the way that I had most wanted to see him. Both experiences were absolute ecstasy!

[@richardlionheart3814]

I loved that song he told that story well.

[@irene-jb7jc]

Well they certainly went out with a BANG !!!!!!!

[@Astrapionte]

Ik it may be wrong, but it is so morbidly fascinating to know what happens to the human bodies in tragic events like this and plane crashes. Like do they immediately turn in to goo? What happens to the bones?

[@dodobirdtime]

I'm assuming they turn into a mush or paste, bones and all would be turned into a liquid maybe with some chunks of skins or bone, scary to think about

[@Xxpel6xx]

Experts say it turned to goo 😢

[@brailrice]

It all turns into peanut butter.

[@ericaallisonc]

It’s really not all that interesting. under that much pressure, It literally just turns into particles.

[@fridaycaliforniaa236]

The first dome you see, the one stuck alone in the sand, is actually the front dome, the one that has/had the view port. The part that is still attached to some carbon fiber debris (which we can see just after) is the aft dome. You can even see the rings that connected it to the technical module (the white thing we the OceanGate logo we saw right at the beginning). The titanium ring who sat between the carbon "tube" and the front dome is not visible on site. Maybe it has been thrown really far away by the brutal effects of the implosion, as its shape makes it more "hydrodynamic" that the whole titanium front dome itself. As we can see in the videos presenting the whole scene, it's more than likely than the implosion started in the upper part of the carbon fiber tube, right at the junction between it and the front titanium ring (the famous one that we can't find, as said before). Looks like the "roof" collapsed and pushed everything inside right towards the technical module of the sub, which was actually set inside the aft dome. Looks like the glue might have been the weak spot and the origin of the accident, actually... _edit_ : the rear part with the OceanGate logo looks _relatively_ intact because it wasn't pressurised. It was always directly exposed to outer pressure of the ocean, so the implosion had relatively minor effects to it, as it was already exposed to the 380 atmospheres you have at this depth.

[@davids.watson7342]

Most mechanical engineers know that the more junctions, joints, and sections you have the more risk of failure you get in a stress situation. And by no means a cylinder is the best shape to resist deformation from overall uniform high pressure. The face of Stockton during that inconceivable “gluing” says it all on the madness of that “engineering”.

[@Itsallwrongbutthatsallright]

True, it's always a sphere, perfectly round ball, used a s pressure chamber for extreme deep waters. Navy subs, which are cylinder shape, don't go anywhere near these kind of depths, I think they 'only' go to about 300 m. Biggest tragedy is that Stockton was warned repeatedly and actually took offence at his critics, who were all experts !

[@davids.watson7342]

@@Itsallwrongbutthatsallright Indeed, and when you saw that the CF cylinder was glued to that collar circular frame, you probably had the same “wtf” questioning moment in your mind like we did. Not even mentioning the absence of structural reinforcement with the tubular cabin (although it would have made little difference at that much pressure per square cm.) Spherical is indeed the best single shape to maintain overall uniform integrity.

[@trucid2]

Can you make a carbon fiber sphere? I think that's why they went with a cylinder.

[@timfisher77]

@@trucid2 carbon is strong in tensile.

[@davids.watson7342]

@@trucid2 not 100% sure but I think I have seen a german engineering video where they did manufacture large CF spheres. Anyway, a deep dive sphere could be made of other excellent high mechanical pressure resistance materials.

[@ChrisFilmPresents]

What’s more surprised than they glued things together is the fact that they can make so many trips and safely come back is quite wild. That kind of mechanism should sound like breaking immediately after one or two trips.

[@dragonfalcon8474]

Jeff, excellent video, the 3D renderings really help a ton too. Outstanding commentary!

[@carlosmcse]

What could go wrong when you make a submarine put together with peanut butter.

[@nadiachakir7081]

It was missing just some jelly to it lmao

[@Finis.Terrae]

@@nadiachakir7081 considering they turned into jelly ...

[@TheDragiix3]

@@nadiachakir7081 It's got some human jelly in it now

[@roleat]

You've achieved nothing comparatively

[@oscaranderson5719]

@@roleat I for one am happy to have contributed nothing to submersible regulation

[@colin-nekritz]

Some of the debris you see in these clips are tiny bits of people. Not a joke. One guy mentioned that. It’s not just stuff being kicked up but what is left of their passengers.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

All I can think of is how all the bacteria there was eating good for a bit after this

[@chariesanjuan]

This is what I was thinking as well, especially around 0:15. All that dust-like things flying around might be sand + human remains paste 🙃

[@dx1450]

The implosion would have heated the air inside the sub to a high degree due to compression of the air (like in a diesel engine) and they likely would have been incinerated in an instant before the water cooled what was left of them again.

[@ericaallisonc]

@@chariesanjuanlol, can almost guarantee you that dust has zero human remains in it after a year under such immense pressure. 😂

[@chariesanjuan]

@@ericaallisonc the video was taken only days after the implosion. Notice the date in the lower left corner.

[@RiverDeLaCruz]

It's so eerie. I shivered.

[@DougFunnyFrozenDrink]

I’d offer up that perhaps there are gaps in the footage due to sensitive images of what those depths are capable of doing to people-type-things.

[@Francisah]

I highly doubt that. I think after all this time any people-type things would be completely decomposed, eaten, or drifted really far from the site.

[@Francisah]

Oh my bad these videos were recorded 4 days after the incident so yeah your comment is a possibility

[@DougFunnyFrozenDrink]

@@Francisah,my sub-aquatic-expertise is the deep end of the swimming pool my brother.😂I do know that a small portion of people-type-things were located and the rest was distributed by Mother Nature, so there’s a good chance that we’re both correct. I think we’re scientists now..😂

[@Francisah]

@@DougFunnyFrozenDrink Better scientists than Stockton Rush that's for sure haha

[@TheCooldudeG]

There might possibly be some pieces of clothing still in there.

[@alexisb.9287]

Great video. Kept clicking on the ones w the footage and they weren’t scratching the itch until this one. Exactly what I was looking for. Great voiceover and info provided. Could put my iPad down and just listen all the way through.

[@mt_baldwin]

Yes that piece is the other titanium dome, you can see it clearly at 5:50 with some sand in the bottom if it (I'm not as sure this, but that looks like the one with the view port hole cut into it with sand pushing up through the hole). The two clips we got seem to imply that the back of the sub took the least amount of damage, while the front was totally destroyed. Also yes guys that work with bonding carbon fiber flipped out at the shoddy workmanship on display they were doing in the bonding (there vids on KZbin by them talking about it). For an application like this they'd have wanted the bonding done in a sterilized clean room environment and that they'd be wearing not just rubber gloves but a full cleanroom suit.

[@budlanctot3060]

I commented on one of these type of videos, just after the submersible went missing and presumed catastrophically lost, that i used to machine fairly big marine propeller shafts like.>12" dia x 40ft long. We would weld SS or "shrink on" bronze liner bearings onto the shafts. We also would warm the finished shaft between the bearings to sweat out any moisture in the pores of the finished shaft which would lightly flash rust on steel shafts, followed immediately by a big HD grinder with a really rough flapper wheel. After that, we'd wind on fiberglass tape & resin between the brgs to protect the shaft from corrosion. We had to machine shallow angle tapered ramps in the ends of the bearings to terminate our tape and resin layers. There were specs on how much taper to machine in. We also machined in at least two grooves into the ramps to assist in gripping the tape/glass. We also would deliberately machine the ramps extremely rough, almost "hairy" to give the tape & resin something extra to "bite into". These OG guys didnt do any of that procedure.

[@johnspooner1403]

So, it essentially failed the way everyone said it would. The graphite cylinder collapsed, ripping it free of the unpressurized tail and popping off the domes at either end. I hope they didn’t have too much warning when it went.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

There is evidence that they deployed the weights to try and start going back up. Didn't work too well

[@bobrocco4218]

Or the fancy domes popped out like champagne corks because there was no crosshatch scoring, grooves or other deviance to an otherwise perfectly smooth substrate. 'Glue', 'Peanut Butter epoxy', etc. can only work as a part of a system. The 'right glue' for the job. If the adjoining parts can be 'melted' together like with PVC glue, cool. But most metal doesn't like or even care about adhesives!

[@collectorguy3919]

@@rosesweetcharlotte Dropping some weights doesn't necessarily mean they wanted to ascend. It could mean they didn't want to hit the bottom at their descent speed.

[@collectorguy3919]

It probably happened too quickly for the human mind to comprehend anything.

[@johnspooner1403]

There is a video where a guy makes a good case for the fore ring seal failing. This results in rapid ingress of water all around the seal. The pressure wave blows the fore dome and ring free (no debris around dome, and ring elsewhere), and blowing the cylinder apart from the inside. The pressure wave forced the cabin contents, along with some carbon fibre, into the aft dome. You can see where the front of the cabin appears clear and scraped free of anything. I expect that most or all of the human remains will be in the rear hemisphere. To an observer, it would have looked like the cabin exploded and the front blew off.

[@tinysmith1834]

Claim is.....adhesive failed! Great update!

[@Baerchenization]

The claim is that two dissimilar materials like titanium and carbon fibre compress at different rates, and therefore sooner or later, the rings had to pop off the cylinder.

[@thomasgirty6397]

look's like the composite was blown into the end cap. the pic's show it full of carbon fiber. not a whole lot of chunk's on the bottom.

[@markmaki4460]

I am most interested in the state of the human remains. This is not out of morbid interest, but out of scientific interest. All the parts of the submersible appear pretty much how most of us anticipated, with the exception of the larger chunks than expected of carbon fiber surviving.

[@jeffostroff]

"presumed human remains"

[@hilly1122]

I would expect them to be mangled within that main chamber wreckage in the second clip, but the statements made last year specifically used the words "human remains identified on the ocean floor" which seems vague at best and misleading at most. The blue light in the water makes it impossible to notice anything that might be red in color so honestly we may be looking right at remains here and not even realize it.

[@chrismaverick9828]

Probably not too much left that would be identifiable. Humans are squishy and crunchy in terms of physical structure and the implosion would likely both shred and pulverize most of the body, both from the carbon fiber and the water coming in at an instant. Shoes, jewelry, might be the most likely to be intact. Even the Coast Guard doesn't like showing that kind of stuff to the masses.

[@paulrybarczyk5013]

Much like the carbon shell of the sub, their bodies disintegrated into little pieces, and most of those pieces floated away or got eaten.

[@girlingoldboots5273]

​​@@hilly1122IIRC, they said that that's where they found them last year. The Coast Guard presentation said they identified genetic material consistent with each of the victims.

[@SeanBZA]

Plain dome is front, port is under the sand. Back section still has the glue holding. Front was blown right off, so likely the failure point was that rear dome joint, as the imploding section would not have had much energy, but by the time the piston of water had reached the front it had enough energy to blow the front dome off, blow out the viewport, and shear off all the mounting bolts, as they are not really there for any structural use, merely to hold the front seal in position till water pressure forces it into seal properly. The rear intact says that was the top that failed, probably the back third of the carbon fibre, based on all of it being wadded up into the rear dome, and not enough energy to blow the dome off completely, but tearing the fibre mat and folding it into the rear. will be interesting to see the front dome pictures, showing how it delaminated, and yes very likely the entire epoxy ring did pop off, but the poor adhesion probably was not too much of a factor here, as even if it did fail, the force would not have popped the entire dome clean off.

[@allangibson8494]

Back dome was glued directly to the shell. The front dome was bolted to the glued ring. The bolts holding the front flange and forward pressure dome failed when the parts of the hull hit forward dome from behind. The rear dome completely separated from the rest of hull during the implosion.

[@PeaceMarauder]

I was thinking the opposite. The failure was at the front top or sides blowing off the dome and the view port. I'd like to see an animation with the info gathered from the pix.

[@allangibson8494]

@@PeaceMarauder The hull floor panel is still in place. About a third of the hull is inside the entry dome and its mating flange. It’s interesting that the carbon fibre composite failed along the length of the hull across the fibre direction when it was wound onto the hull former.

[@cyphi474]

Front dome. Carbon pieces were thrown back.

[@TheDiveO]

how do sausage rip when put into boiling water? there's your answer. mechanical engineering 1st semester basics

[@Bounce_Mafia]

Got a sub from me pardon the pun, your some man sitting there early in the morning till late dinner time. Respect from scotland