Jeffrey Sachs Highlights from Athens Democracy Forum

Here are some highlights from Jeffrey Sachs's comments at the 2022 Athens Democracy Forum session on "A Decade of Democracy: China and Russia." Professor Sachs is Director of the Center for Sustainable Development at Columbia University. The event was recorded on 29 September 2022 in the Zappeion Megaron in Athens, Greece.

[@gloriacheon5952]

Do not Interrupt when he is Speaking the Truth! We need to hear it!

[@lynth]

The moderator interrupting Jeffrey Sachs must be put on a list of anti-democratic censors serving the US regime. There was no reason to do this other than to hide the fact that the US isn't a democracy and that nobody collaborating with the US supports democracy, exposing the entire narrative the West is trying to spin about it being "democratic". Meanwhile, Communist China is the most democratic country on earth, which the West decries as an undemocratic dictatorship.

[@lavendereucalyptus3225]

Prof Sachs is peeling off the lies and deception layer by layer, obviously the moderator can’t handle the NAKED TRUTH, so he wants to stop prof Sachs.

[@lavendereucalyptus3225]

Another moderator on different day also very obnoxiously and rudely interrupted Prof Sachs who spoke as the philosopher of Aristotle. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJ_Rg4uQo6anfJI

[@FoliDude]

Perhaps it is democratic forum and he cant talk about true 🤧

[@kinky_Z]

Well the moderator works for the NYTs so he took an oath to be a SWORN LIAR.

[@dennisc117]

Here is an honorable, honest, insightful, and frank scholar! Wishing there were more like you! Thank you, Professor Sachs!

[@jimmytimmy3680]

Although I agree with his assesment, don't forget he was also the architect of Russia's neoliberal shock therapy in which he destroyed the Russian economy, created a rich oligarchy, massive poverty, decreased life expectancy, hunger, and a lot of suffering in Russia. All to benefit the US and world Plutocracy to steal Russia's resources and state companies to privatize them, profit off of them and steal the people's wealth

[@scrubvision5652]

they will come after him

[@selectedvideos6180]

@@scrubvision5652 ... They already are. Did you see how quickly and firmly the pompous moderator shut him down when he mentioned the most violent "democracy" (lol) since the 1950's? kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIHChKONYqmsh8k

[@bea78tles]

CNN, FOX, MSNBC, ABC, CBS will not have this guy on much, if ever. They will have retired generals who sit on corporate boards of defense contractors on to get their opinion.

[@chenren6977]

Jeff as respected scholar put himself under risk, people speaking against American ruling class are usually in danger, free Julian Assange and Snowden

[@Tell-Truth]

He just simply told the facts.

[@osr29]

Can´t have that!!

[@andyweingarten5978]

@@osr29 ?

[@sabinereynaudsf]

I wonder weather Russians see Putin as a Tsarist figure and love how their laws are getting more and more restrictive. Not so sure how many of them really support the invasion of Ukraine.

[@tonalharmony9266]

Not all of them. Granted, moderator Steven Erlanger clearly comes from a deep state culture, and can't tolerate diverse views. I don't necessarily disagree with Jeffrey Sachs about the most violent country of the second half of the 20th century being the United States, but it is for a much different reason than what he espouses, although he does have some inconvenient facts on his side. Beginning with the1973 Roe v.s. Wade decision, an abortion industry led by Planned Parenthood slaughtered tens of millions of innocent unborn babies in the womb under the obscene mantra of "a woman's right to choose." These evildoers killed more defenseless human persons than Hitler, Stalin, and Mao's gang all together, but ironically, population control advocate Sachs is o.k. with THAT!

[@eddievangundy4510]

He told facts, but not all the facts. The Chinese surveillance state is scary, and under no circumstances should it be exported.

[@protectorp]

“Democracy” in homeland but imperially brutal in other countries. Spot on!

[@LjubicaServaas]

Calling the US and UK democratic at home is a stretch. Who elected Rishi Sunak or Queen Elizabeth? Biden's approval rating is in the 30%s

[@paulho6412]

Salute to a great, brave and virtuous scholar!

[@karin1372]

Finally someone brave enough to say the truth

[@chekitautnigerialimited7541]

For many years he have been saying the truth. May he live long.

[@frankng4574]

I am big fan of Dr. Sachs. He is the real hero in today's world by just to speak the truth and be brave.

[@sabinereynaudsf]

How is he a hero. When he was actually involved he brought economic shock therapy to Russia. I think he is correct about China. In regards to Russia I am not so sure.

[@frankng4574]

@@sabinereynaudsf just to speak out what he knows. Russia is not because of him, it's because Russian leaders believed what American system is.

[@erichan728]

If this gentleman's thoughts prevail, the planet will be a much better one for us all!

[@samsun01]

I believe Jeffrey Sachs is an optimists because otehrwise why would he stick his head out to preach the truth? JFK and MLK were both eliminated by Americans in America...for basically spreading ideas that weren't worth sharing (deemed by the Deep State). Maybe the next generation of Westerners is morally capable of waking up and seeing and then making the changes to this "democracy".

[@erichan728]

@@samsun01 Jefferey Sachs is a real world citizen. He sticks his head out to preach the truth for this planet. Speaking of the next generation's waking up, I doubt it taking into consideration that how powerful the media is, which is capable of brainwashing people to call black white.

[@vazzeg]

The people clapping and cheering when he gets forcefully shut up talking uncomfortable truths is an amazing sight to behold.

[@jinzecui4208]

He moved me to tears… I cannot agree more!!

[@Flipson456]

He's more getting wise as he gets older.

[@zhangyi5145]

😂😂😂笑死，洋大人的认可会让奴性的人高潮啊。

[@ericxu54]

@@zhangyi5145 你不赞同真正理解你并替你发生的洋人，那不如你去跪舔那些贬低中国人并希望中国人死绝的西方大爷吧

[@tuckerbugeater]

@@Flipson456 lol

[@jackchen5516]

👍 he knows what he is talking about.

[@stefano78]

A true light in the darkness. Please never get extinguished... Mr. Sachs, your words are a hope to the world.

[@garywong7120]

Professor Sachs simply speak the truth with guts and fairness to different cultures than those hypes and hypocritical “democracy” preached by many. Hats off to him and world would have become much better, more peaceful, tolerant and caring to people that creating conflicts and suffering to ordinary people to protect the Elites.

[@Overleb]

Jeffrey Sachs for president!

[@SThrillz]

😂 why do you hate the man so much?

[@user-wg9zq1ee8f]

美国手握大权的是世界资本家，总统只是资本家手里的工具，随时可以毁掉他

[@cloud-rd1lq]

I'm literally worried about his life security

[@Amaking10000]

@@HH-gf6rk Did John F Kenedy was assinated in China?

[@BRMCX69]

@@HH-gf6rk Julian Assange also not in China. he's just reporting it, not stealing the intel, genius.

[@BRMCX69]

@@HH-gf6rk owh yah? did he sneak to cia building like tom cruise? he's reporter you dum dum

[@maliktp13]

@@HH-gf6rk If you think the US hasn't killed people for their actions and pursuits then you got a lot to learn.

[@brettdavis3718]

@@HH-gf6rk No he didn’t, he had a source that gave it to him and he published it.

[@padbrit]

Amazing to see all those young people applauding. Fantastic.

[@rumfordc]

were they applauding the speaker though? or were they applauding the speaker being shut down? im genuinely asking, its hard to tell from these clips.

[@MrWillchn]

@@rumfordc I genuinely share the same concern, and I feel sorry that it might be actually a valid concern

[@rogerzen8696]

Yes! And the old guys in the audience all stayed put. Amazing!

[@NowAge]

Dr. Sachs' willingness to speak out is nothing less than heroic.

[@wooandrewft]

Prof Sachs is telling the truth and speaking his mind. Truth can't be stopped, even by a moderator. Thank you, Professor. Thank you for your deep conviction and spreading the truth.

[@zy3859]

Honestly, the moderator somehow protected Jeffrey. If the truth was spoken as Jeffrey intended, I can't imagine what's gonna happen to this wise, honorable man. It's just a cruel truth.

[@frankng4574]

Couldn't agree more.

[@lavendereucalyptus3225]

That’s not what the moderator intended to do, ‘protecting’ Prof Sachs is probably the last on his mind. The moderator is probably afraid Sachs naked truth would get him trouble, abruptly interrupted Sachs in order to protect himself.

[@sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517]

no, the moderator is a British intel stooge

[@Phish620]

I don't think Dr. Sachs wants his protection. He wants to speak the truth without being silenced, interrupted, or disrespected.

[@japs4378]

I totally agree with you... Futhermore, by returning to the main subject, the moderator revived the debate by allowing Prof. SACHS to give the most powerful stance of his entire speech: "The greatest mistake of the Biden administration was to put the struggle between China and Russia VS USA in the frame of a struggle between autocracy VS democracy, though it should be a battle to promote cooperation for the protection of environment and the fighting against inequalities". The lyrics of denounciation was "touching", but this stance was simply POWERFUL!!!

[@japs4378]

The moderator stopped Prof. SACHS multiple times in the path of sound denounciations, specially the last time where he was rather rough. But, by returning to the main subject, the moderator revived the debate by allowing Prof. SACHS to give the most powerful stance of his entire speech: "The greatest mistake of Pres. Biden was to put the struggle between China and Russia VS USA in the frame of a struggle between autocracy VS democracy, though it should be a battle to promote cooperation to face common challenges which are environment and inequalities". The lyrical denounciations were "touching", but this stance was simply POWERFUL!!!

[@paulamcminn5480]

He's so very correct about the wrong lens thru which to see the world. Many views, many cultures, no single one is all right or all wrong. It is not between democracy and autocracy, it is our great need to learn to live together and work thru our common crisis. The whole world does not need to be a democracy or a fake one like ours. God help us if it were so. People see a democracy and think what a great place to get rich, but at what cost to others? Love this man.

[@bruceemerick3956]

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[@paulamcminn5480]

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[@hanslu9706]

But the western mainstream media is blocking this, so none can be heard by their 'highly educated, morally upright, and advocates for democracy and freedom' citizens. That's why my second-grade son, studying in Torrance, CA, is still constantly being asked if the Chinese are eating dog meat by his classmates.😮‍💨 Edit: sorry about the negative attitude, it's just there's toooooo many medias acknowledging people with fake news and misinformations to worsen the relationships between nations and races.

[@user-rq1tl3ss7p]

A wise man

[@Africa-Liberation-Army]

The moderator didn’t wanna hear the truth anymore

[@BS-qp8rp]

A man with dignity and wisdom

[@bummers]

The moderator is acting just like US. It's free speech until I don't like it. lol

[@aide-toietlecieltaidera3724]

Underrated comment 👍 well, in the US you may invent or speak every kind of perversity, grotesque absurdity or mental illness. That's why they consider themselves 'free'. But try to restructure society, to redefine the limits of power, economics and policy and you will end up like John F. Kennedy. Or Martin Luther King. Malcolm X. And there are plenty more of them who paid dearly. Whoever equates the reality of democracy or liberalism with freedom has a twisted perception of freedom indeed.

[@ramen4131]

So why the moderator interrupted Prof. Sachs in a "democracy forum"? Did the latter's speech exceeded the programmed length of each speaker's allocated time or what? What on earth did the moderator moderate, the truth that threats the american/anglosphere's ruling class?

[@frankng4574]

Someone made comments here is that the moderator may protecting Professor Sachs. American political system is ruthless.

[@sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517]

The "moderator" is associated with the British intelligence..

[@che0214]

The host demonstrated on the spot what it means to have no freedom of speech.

[@h.b.2330]

Honorable man 💪🏻💪🏻 Thank you Prof Sachs! Shame on the Moderator!!!!!!

[@winlaw3571]

Professor jeffery sachs should be next american president for getting world in peace.

[@loiswilcken1758]

I would agree except that I believe the presidency of the US corrupts. At the least, it would not allow a true democrat. But Sachs does deserve a wide, wide platform. This must be shared. Thanks to Bryan Van Norden.

[@user-hr6tb9fh8k]

U wish

[@claudec1843]

It's impossible because he doesn't speak for the capitalist

[@user-tn8er2km1q]

Many thanks from Russia! Brave man.

[@secundus6457]

Facts. Truth about Western hypocrisy. Thank you, Professor!

[@ariaatmar9489]

Such a Honorable man!

[@humbleforest]

A good experiened American diplomat who speaks the Truths.

[@ramaniellepola3603]

Why is the stark truth so hard to hear?we sorely need more people like Jeffry Sachs in the world.

[@magiusmajere2602]

Man I like this guy Jeffery. He's very very wise.

[@andreda0104]

respect to this gentle man

[@John-hv8mu]

Stopped by the moderator because he touched sensitive buttons.

[@minalobudeshte]

A true hero of our time speaking out the facts

[@lktan589]

A great, decent American with courage and dignity. It's always hard to swallow pride and tell the truths. Processor Sachs has shown us how to do it out of love for his country and humanity. But he's very lonely out there.

[@kooisengchng5283]

Hard facts are hard to accept. If he had been condemning China the moderator would have allowed him to go on and on. But when US is condemned, it is no go. This is freedom in the style of american rules-based system. The world is not stupid.

[@ifgoh]

The moderator literally demonstrated how democracy works in the western world.

[@yhh8427]

Professor Jeffrey Sachs is the Rare Conscientious Scholar !

[@chekitautnigerialimited7541]

We want peace in the world... God bless u Jef.

[@abdikarim7306]

I have never seen in my life a man like Professor Jeffrey Sachs telling the truth with bravery and dignity. The moderator interrupted the professor three times. When the professor starts talking about the US, he interrupts, but the professor says politely, "Let me finish my point." And again, when the professor talks about the UK, he interrupts, but the professor again says politely, "Let me finish my point." But the Moderator insists on stopping him and says, "Stop, I'm your Moderator," and the Professor says, "Ok, I'm done." And then the moderator says, "I'm not here to defend one system or another." WHAT!!!? REALLY!!? If you are not defending one system or another, a simple question is: why didn't you allow the professor to make his point?

[@mfg8129]

The moderator should moderate himself instead. Not stopping free speech!!!

[@proveit5813]

they shut him down like an early alarm

[@HappyDT]

Who paid that pathetic moderator who tried so hard to interrupt and stop Jeff from speaking? Jeff spoke like a modern day Elijah describing the evil of Ahab.

[@lss7850]

New York Times

[@sabinereynaudsf]

There were 4 people on the podium. In typical American fashion Sachs took over the conversation and started preaching. He didn't want anybody else to speak.

[@NavidKhan84]

We literally study this mans research articles in development economics class…listen to him America

[@GoldenEraBookworm]

Brave, truthful, honest! Well done Jeffery! That moderator should be moderated!

[@swtsuen8893]

Thank you Prof. Sachs.

[@estarbien1146]

My respect and congratulations to Mr. Sachs! It had to be said and he did it. And it should be said a lot more.

[@sofiavillanueva4219]

They don't like to hear the truth

[@panglilla868]

Jeffrey, I am your moderator, stop! Hahaha democracy

[@cl4626]

A salute to Jeffery Sachs !

[@honcheelim1220]

Most civilised speech by an American 👏👏👏

[@stanbimi]

Highest regard for this scholar. May professor Jeffrey Sachs educate many more brilliant students at Columbia.

[@blackwarrior7473]

If you see how honorable and noble a scholar can be, then you can understand how dirty and ugly a politician can make!

[@sinpinlee]

I am very interested to listen to his speaking. He is always giving insightful experience and widening my knowledge.

[@chuenweihsu9286]

Prof Sachs described the political systems of each of the 4 countries so well so accurate, no one could have observed and said better. ‘Democratic at home and ruthless imperialism in the world’ has been the Western system, no matter with democratic elected government or kingship. Why a person so bright and conscientious is not appointed as a government advisor? In stead we have the neoconservatism.

[@keithlucas1173]

Should be the president of the US a wise , intelligent man. A humanist 👌🙏🏻

[@PauloFerreira-wp2it]

Greetings from Brazil 🇧🇷

[@ade-ade]

Prof Sachs I reiterate my full respect. The rest of the world sees these things clearly and appreciate them for what they are. But coming from and speaking these issue amongst westerners adds all the weight needed. Thank you for always stating truth.

[@kevinjohnson9533]

FFFing brilliant statement by Jeffrey Sachs!! The moderator shutting him down and making sure the people don't hear the truth! lol Then the moderator lying and saying he is ideologically neutral . LOL America only gets out of the trouble we're in as a society when we deal with the truth and honestly engage with Sach's observation of who WE ARE , then there is hope for us.

[@brodychiang7192]

Salute!❤

[@erichan728]

What a great insightful speech! To live and let live!

[@Mimashrimp]

*Moderator stops the speaker* "I'm not here to defend a system in one way or another" as an American tries to describe his own country.

[@sabinereynaudsf]

He was giving a speech. Hey but that is the messy beauty of democracy, you can tear down your own country that is giving you a lot of opportunities. The US has many faults and still it has managed to change over time. Great innovations have come out of the US as well. For many years many Chinese went to the US to study. Even Xi's daughter. Why is that if it is all so terrible. Why didn't China have better Universities at the time?

[@peasantmob1712]

China started out 70 years ago poorer than any country in Africa in a gdp per capita basis. It’s not going to catch up to a superpower whose industries were intact post WW2 whereas much of the world was bombed to rubble. It’s like giving 1 year of training time between a starving kid and an Olympic champion, and then claiming the exercise regimen of the Olympic champion is better because he’s more fit at the end of that one year. Its better to see if they are relatively better off, which they are. 30 years ago about 10% of Chinese overseas students who came to the US ended up going back to China. Now that number is around 80%.

[@hyc1266]

@@sabinereynaudsf Learn about the "hundred years of humiliation of China".

[@kinky_Z]

Lots of people in the last few years have been telling the truth loudly and plainly as Sachs does here but it's still good to hear it stated by such a well-known professor and academic at a keynote forum such as this. I just hope he doesn't end up sharing a cell beside Julian Assange at Belmarsh for telling the truth.

[@Amaking10000]

Professor Jeffrey Sachs is the national treasure!

[@Jocky8807]

He is a prophet. a prophet is never been appreciated in his home town. Nor In his time.

[@panyaboonc5621]

If every countries leaders in this world will to think like him, this world will be peaceful, wonderful and we'll spend our times, money and afforts to improve infrastructures, climate changes, medical cares, educations instead of weapon.

[@ShengLi]

If the world leader really value democracy system, they should work on it at UN level. Each country in the world has their own culture backgrounds which form their political system. We should respect each other's culture backgrounds and work through that in stead of the force of war.

[@danasajadi3319]

I salute this man , he is a real Gem

[@Olga-eo6kg]

Thank you for the truth! Thank you, Professor Sachs!

[@borisyuabov7292]

Bravo Jeff Sacks 👏

[@chheringyonzon4588]

Facts and reason prevailing over emotions, perceptions and prejudice can be bitter to hear and accept.

[@DucaTech]

The truth hurts so bad that the moderator couldn't bare the pain.

[@rabbitazteca23]

a man with brains and grit to not be afraid to speak out

[@antoniomax]

Thank you for posting this clip Bryan, it is always a pleasure to listen professor Sachs insights, doesn't get any better.

[@ronmackinnon9374]

Good for Sachs in getting as much truth out there as he did. But I'd still like to point out.... 1) More than the matter of a simple difference in narratives among cultures, there is the problem of the deliberate construction of *false* narratives in the service of the powerful. A public that -- still to a disturbingly large extent in today's west -- falsely believes it is getting the truth from their news media is more dangerous than one that largely knows it is being lied to by their authorities and is harder to fool. 2) While Sachs touched a little on this, I'd like to give more emphasis to the point that 'democracy' is not what best describes the U.S. anyway, and certainly not what its policymakers have really been concerned with. 'Oligarchy' is a better description, one that depends on maximized wealth extraction on a global scale, and is happy to work with autocratic systems when they help them achieve this, and hostile towards them when they don't.

[@sotosdemetriou3070]

ADMIRED you professor ...you really express the real democracy....not like the co,-ordinador who tried to to take your Democratic freedom of speech away .... UNBELIEVABLE IN THE FORUM IN ATHENS ABOUT DEMOCRACY

[@liamporter1137]

Wish Jeffrey Sachs is the president of the US. The world will be a peaceful place. US has caused millions of life lost or displaced.

[@chungchung7492]

This is a democracy forum. The moderator demonstrated what is "democracy" in action. Shame on him.

[@VicharB]

Never heard him but just from this speech of his I see he is a wise man with wide perspective and not afraid to speak as it is. My respect to this person. Talk about freedom of speech and filtered info - to the moderator who is a weak person.

[@ronmackinnon9374]

Earlier in his career, he was one of the western 'experts' who 'helped' post-communist Russia transition to capitalism with 'shock-therapy' 'reforms.' But to his credit, he learned through his years of working among high-powered elites just how much their worldview is informed by falsehoods. It would be nice if there were more heartening examples like his, of people who keep their eyes open and change for the better over time.

[@summergal9110]

Thanks Jeffrey Sach to give your sincere opinion and your honest thoughts I m Chinese origin but live in Singapore as the third generation immigrant. I studied commerce, marketing, computer engineering and business analytics… most of my studies have some form of answers but diplomacy does not. It’s was factual and the results of the policies implemented. These policies impacted the most of human lives yet these were left to a small group of political elites to decide the world’s order. I hope there could be more justifications before a war is declared… and more studies should be devoted to study the impact of the lives of people globally.

[@johnyip4682]

well said !

[@ang1783]

Finally, someone is telling the truth !! I suppose he wanted to save democracy instead

[@davidh2861]

Jeffry you are great professor , you hit the truth

[@user-cb7dn2kj8s]

The truth is spoken here 🙌🙌

[@MsChinichinita]

The world needs more men like him!

[@cheeaunmin254]

Salute to Prof Jeffrey Sachs 🙏

[@paulamcminn5480]

Censorship everywhere.

[@mfg8129]

Must be hard for Dr. Sachs to talk sense to bunch of hypocrites!!!

[@treeofgrowth]

Oh the irony of Jeffrey being censored at a "Democracy" forum. What bs!

[@nilslarson7532]

brave and relevant . this is indeed freedom of speech .

[@hafizajlo7695]

Truth ,,truth Just spoken...

[@konnyputkin6350]

Man’s spitting nothing but facts!

[@anwardude]

Thank you Dr Sachs

[@themnocrat]

I love how the crowd are behind Jeffery.

[@pennyliu1878]

Jeffrey Sachs habla sobre los hechos y la comprensión profunda entre la democracia falsa y real en lugar de esos loros han sido manipulados por los medios políticos

[@JenyaBow_369]

Great speaker!!!! 100% correct

[@fangxusun1723]

what a brave man

[@yliuos]

Professor Sachs said 'you can be democratic at home and ruthlessly imperial abroad'. I'd take it a step further: democracy is founded on individualism and the belief that the common good is born out of maximising personal freedom, which naturally, at the absence of a working measurement of common good, leads to a tendency of constant conflict. As a result, when democracies are in the position of power, the externalisation of the said tendency is inevitable which inevitably leads to imperialistic expansion. That is, there is a positive causal relation between democracy and imperial expansion.

[@luosuo9929]

I partially agree (in most parts) but want to add 2 cents. 1) I'd suggest that you replace "democracy" with "liberty" in your statements. "Liberty" is one of the most important fundamental values of the US while "democracy" is not. The two are totally different and they don't necessarily get along with each other. Politicians keep mentioning the word to fool the US people that they had "democracy" but they never really had it. 2) It's Capitalism that will inevitably lead to Imperialism not "democracy". While liberty is the favorite tool for capital and help it grow into a bloody monster and unleash it from the control of "democracy" eventually. Again just my opinion.

[@ruipengli3969]

Well said. Democracy and imperialism go hand in hand always

[@ruipengli3969]

@@luosuo9929 I think he's just talking about the "western" style democracy, which is liberalism, not the socialist democracy

[@luosuo9929]

@@ruipengli3969 Yes I know. But "democracy" is very different from "liberalism" while the west especially the US politicians/media and even academia have been intentionally mixing up the two. In my mind "liberalism" which overly advocates personal liberty, or as @LTY stated "is founded on individualism" is in my mind almost synonym to "self centered" and "selfishness". Also its application in economics leads to "free market". Both are favorites of capitalists as they can make the society much easier for capital to manipulate in order to maximize profit. Simply put, "liberalism" benefits capitalists the most while exploits the working class and majority of the people. On the opposite "democracy" is supposed to represent majority of the people. It is neutral to ideologies in nature - ideally political and economical policies made in a democracy system should change over time to benefit the majority in each phase of the society. However democracy is extremely weak - so difficult to realize while can be easily ruined. I don't think any country in the world is a real "democracy". And the US has definitely destroyed it long ago - except its people are brainwashed to believe they still have it just because they have elections and can spit on the face of their president. P.s. in your last sentence did you mean to say "social democracy", or you truly meant "socialist democracy"? If the latter, you're exactly right :D - only socialists can eventually realize democracy! :)

[@ruipengli3969]

@@luosuo9929 Thank you for your reply. Oh I mean "socialist" very much! Social democracy? Like, in Sweden? Yikes! 🤑