Speaking as a drummer: This really is not a good way to learn to keep better time. The issue with most people's time is that they don't subdivide accurately and cannot switch between subdivisions accurately. While these exercises are good for developing rhythm, rhythm is not time. The initial conceit of this video (that a metronome can be a crutch if used incorrectly) is correct, this is not the solution. A better way to practice is by playing with the metronome only ticking every two beats, every bar, every other bar, or more. That way the metronome is an external tool to confirm that your internal time is correct. Another way of working on this is putting the metronome on the 2nd or third triplet or a 16th note that isn't the downbeat. I'm a fan of the app TimeGuru which allows you to randomly mute the metronome so it will check your internal time at random points, forcing you to keep time evenly.
@MrStevem1212 күн бұрын
Nice tip with the Timeguru app. Didn't know such a thing existed. Purchased.
@pianoatthirty2 күн бұрын
Thank you. Slow 30-40bpm metronome ticks (every bar) is life-changing. Steady external pulse coupled with internal subdivisions - you get the best of both worlds.
@jordimoraguesmassanet11792 күн бұрын
Completely agree. I also thought that this confuses time with groove/rhythm. I don't think that these rhythmic exercises are incompatible with doing them with a metronome.
@fredericlinden2 күн бұрын
Sorry, but the second sentence of your first paragraph is an unacceptable claim. In your second paragraph, you also offer a crutch as the ultimate 'solution'. Nobody will say that the metronome is bad (and I will not tell you here how I use it) but, indeed, if one relies on it to KEEP time, I can assure you that one is going to derail off the track if you turn it off... especially while having to play broken chords in 16ths for 16 measures... The internal clock must absolutely be developed and used. Listen to Bill Evans playing ballads, and you tell me that his internal clock is not fully active, 200%... My experience as a pianist playing with just a saxophonist or just a bassist has proven time and time again that my internal time had to be switched fully 'on' at power 10/10. Otherwise... good luck. Your suggestion to place the click of the metronome on different parts of the beat is a good advice and can surely "instill' accuracy. It forces you to be confident and can help to become solid in polyrhythm. This said, depending of the rhythmical figures and the tempo of a piece, depending also of the harmonic progression, either in the practice room or performing on a large stage, applying subdivisions will give you the benefit that TimeGuru will not. For those of us playing harmonically and melodically, both the harmony and the melody, AND the phrase length (a concept foreign to most...), will contribute to maintaining a solid pulse no matter what. Come and accompany an amateur choir that as a tendency to drag, I assure you once again that if your INTERNAL time is not good, you will follow them... Finally, remember : as a drummer, you constantly play short values, particularly on the high-hat, and in many instances, others will rely on it, way more than on the snare or bass drum !!! Short values, played or counted, will always be effective.
@jim_andrianakos2 күн бұрын
Metronomics has been my jam for years
@thedead0732 күн бұрын
I get the feeling this is about metronome misuse. If you're using the metronome correctly you shouldn't be able to hear it. If you can hear it, you're either out of time or your should turn it down
@live2groove2 күн бұрын
Well, as a music instructor who teaches a lot of beginner and intermediate players, the metronome is pretty effective. It helps them learn to feel the beats they don't play, not to mention tempo issues.
@37BopCity2 күн бұрын
The best improvement in my time has come from playing hundreds of great tunes out of the Real Book. Almost all the rhythmic patterns and forms you will ever encounter are in these songs. I use IRealPro which I know some advanced players look down on, but for me it's an excellent tool. If you want, you can turn down all the instruments and just use the drummer, which is far more interesting than a metronome. You can adjust the tempo, and choose between dozens of different styles in blues, jazz, Latin, salsa, swing, etc. It's a real education in learning the difference between a Bomba, an Afro 6/8, a Guaracho, New Orleans Swing, Even Eighths Open, Flat Tire Blues, or numerous other beats that are all used in jazz and popular music. PS --- the other critical thing to study is to listen to the great artists of past and present, and how they use time.
@michellemonet435822 сағат бұрын
Are you referring to the rhythm settings on a digital pian>?
@Bradwick117 сағат бұрын
Metronome practice builds consistency and sensitivity to internal and external changes in tempo and degrees of swing (feel). Tempo changes can be unintentional and a metronome gives instant reference back from any time deviation. Tempo changes can also be deliberate to create effect. Metronome practice absolutely increases the internal sense of time or the best musicians in the world wouldn't use it at some point in their career. It would only be a crutch if your time was absolutely gone without it and absolute perfection with it. No one is both of those extremes. If the metronome is not your friend you haven't hung out long enough.
@DavidThackerMusic2 күн бұрын
Couldn't disagree more. I've been playing for almost 20 years and have taught thousands of students. Metronomes work wonders. Just like anything its a tool and its not perfect for everything. But helping people learn proper timing *before* they learn to "break the rules" is a good idea.
@CalvinLimSH-ld5le19 сағат бұрын
Can we use the Kodaly method of rhythm syllable counting technique rather than metric counting? [ E.g. Ta for crotchets/quarter notes. Ti for quavers/eighth notes ]. I find it much easier to count in Kodaly method that can easily match the music note duration values [ E.g. Say the Kodaly syllable "Thum" = 11/2 beats ]. I get lost easily when trying to follow the metronome beats playing in time.
@EvanTateMusic2 күн бұрын
I found practicing with a drum machine instead of a metronome does wonders.
@matt_greeneКүн бұрын
why may i ask?
@michellemonet435822 сағат бұрын
I practice with and without the metronme. What about the rhythm s on the digital pianos?
@AleksaDomas8 сағат бұрын
I'd say.. don't blame the metronome, it's a tool. Your ideas are great, so why not simply putting the metronome on the up beat? Or on the 2 (or 8) of 8/8? Or on the 2 or 3 of the tripplet? There are many great ways to use it 🤜🏽🤛🏽
@tylkopytam2 күн бұрын
my left leg is my metronome
@MJ12 күн бұрын
That’s funny cause your right leg is my metronome. That might explain my playing
@JariSatta2 күн бұрын
You can definitely internalize "Perfect Metronome" to the exact BpM
@DeAguaMusic2 күн бұрын
You can practice this excersises and your internal tempo with a metronome btw, after all, you are in fact making a click with your hand anyways. Good video tho, nice ideas.
@synthplayer1563Күн бұрын
The metronome is a great tool, you should use it, but you should use it in a way that doesn't tell you simply the beat, so you need to create the beat by yourself. This is the simple solution. The metronome should tell you subdivisions, eg only 2 and 4 or the swing + or just the 1 every 2nd measure and so on.
@WiseLittleOwl2 күн бұрын
Balancing on one leg is good for internalising musical pulse
@Oi-mj6dv2 күн бұрын
Metronome is a recording tool when you need to be ultra tight, or a performance tool, click track for live performances and shit and maybe a check for sparingly verifying things you are practicing. Other than that, its free real state
@N373H2 күн бұрын
just witnessed a pro musician who suddenly started using a metronome to rehearse for an audition collapse the other day...
@manugiannkoudi68802 күн бұрын
Thx
@martinvo9812 күн бұрын
So basically, i must focus more on Internal time than External time, got it.
@EvanTateMusic2 күн бұрын
Manhattan School of Music?
@basslobster2 күн бұрын
Thank you! This is what I've been teaching since the 90's.