This LUXURY night train from Tashkent to Almaty has one HUGE flaw | Kazakh Railways Talgo review

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Simon Andersen

Simon Andersen

Күн бұрын

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In this video, we are embarking on a journey aboard what might be Kazakhstan's finest night train, featuring the newer Talgo rolling stock. This train offers private cabins, onboard showers, and an excellent dining car. However, there is one significant issue with these carriages that can make the journey less enjoyable. Join me on this adventure from Uzbekistan's capital, Tashkent, to Almaty, as I showcase both the highlights and challenges of this train ride.
Train type: O'Z-Y / Alstom Prima + Kazakh Talgo sleeper wagons
Route: Tashkent to Almaty-2
Train: 1
Distance: 938
Journey time: 17h8m
Average speed: 57 km/h
Price: 56000 KZT ~ 119€

Пікірлер: 96
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 3 ай бұрын
The train times have now changed since making this video. The train now departs Tashkent at 4:40 arriving Almaty 22:58. Reverse direction departing Almaty 9:34 arriving tashkent 02:53. Not great!
@gel-dh9tg
@gel-dh9tg 3 ай бұрын
I was about to ask the train timings as I have not seen any timings available in the afternoon. Also, it's 4:40 departing from Tashkent to Almaty
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 3 ай бұрын
@@gel-dh9tg thanks I've updated my comment 😊
@lolaokhrana
@lolaokhrana 2 ай бұрын
Where can i buy the tickets and how many days in advance?
@lolaokhrana
@lolaokhrana 2 ай бұрын
Also will there be wifi available?
@two_wanderedsouls
@two_wanderedsouls Ай бұрын
The new timings are horrible as you waste an entire day on the train. Wish they had an evening departure with an overnight travel
@kentakiman_gmd
@kentakiman_gmd 8 ай бұрын
Talgo uses this unique technology from more than half a century ago with independent wheels that allows trains to be low floor (better access from low platform stations) and energy efficient since the coaches are lighter. However the ride comfort gets heavily affected by it, and it is an issue that not so many people mention.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 8 ай бұрын
And that's probably why it's acceptable on higher quality Spanish tracks and day trains but on the night trains out here it really starts suffering
7 ай бұрын
Also the use of smaller wheels. This is an issue on the newer caledonian sleeper coaches too.
@gnupfo
@gnupfo 8 ай бұрын
I've always wanted to visit Central Asia, and these night trains seem like a great way to get around once you're there.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 8 ай бұрын
They are! More fun than flying and so much more comfortable than the cheap busses
@blizzaroxxx
@blizzaroxxx 7 ай бұрын
Take the Andijon->Osh->Bishkek->Almaty route. It's so worth it, and the scenery is just gorgeous.
@jappedut9009
@jappedut9009 8 ай бұрын
I like that you addressed the noise on the train. Many people forget that
@gefitrop3496
@gefitrop3496 8 ай бұрын
I really wanna go back to Uzbekistan again, it was a one in a lifetime experience 😍
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 8 ай бұрын
It's a great country!
@percismehta8959
@percismehta8959 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the mini videos.
@leungwincy9108
@leungwincy9108 7 күн бұрын
good and clear, thanks a lot!
@StefanGiese
@StefanGiese 8 ай бұрын
You can also fold up the lower bunk bed. Then you have a quite comfortable seat and also can use the tables. The are also a lot of other features
@johnmehaffey9953
@johnmehaffey9953 8 ай бұрын
Nice post I’m a sucker for rail travel especially sleeper trains, another subscriber 😊
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 8 ай бұрын
Welcome onboard!
@timsonxx
@timsonxx 2 ай бұрын
Im definitely looking forward to your review of the ICE L once it comes into service. Many people are quite sceptical on it because of the Talgo 230.
@Trainviking
@Trainviking 8 ай бұрын
I traveled with one of these trains for my 4th trip report ever, on a domestic route, how I wish u had these trains from Moscow on to Kazachstan back then haha. Nice video.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 8 ай бұрын
Still seems to be a lot of older stock on those really long journeys. My Bishkek to Kazan was old non aircon ammendorf carriges. Definitely an upgrade to a talgo then
@mariadelmarjimenezarroyo2656
@mariadelmarjimenezarroyo2656 8 ай бұрын
This was a good video. But please do a review onboard Iryo
@samtrak1204
@samtrak1204 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for reviewing ride quality. I alway want to know if passenegers get a smooth and quiet ride.
@Chrizz06041980
@Chrizz06041980 8 ай бұрын
Another great video. Thank you for making all these. I'm thinking of the security checks at the big stations. They seem to me very limited. If a terrorist wants to set up a bomb he just would enter a train on one of the smaller intermediate stops, where no security checks take place, exits the train at its final station and deposits the bomb in a toilet cabin and locks the door from outside with a coin for example.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 8 ай бұрын
Many ways to get around these checks, seems to me more to be politics and for show/false comfort if anything
@Chrizz06041980
@Chrizz06041980 8 ай бұрын
​@@Simon-AndersenIndeed.
@nilserben2773
@nilserben2773 3 ай бұрын
Hey Simon how did you book the room with the shower? Thank you for the cool video keep it up!
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 3 ай бұрын
There is a seatmap on the Kazakh railways website where you can pick your cabin railways.kz/en/ On Tashkent-Almaty showers are always in the 3 cabins in carriage 12 and sometimes also carriage 14 but no way to guarantee in 14 as only some of the talgo carriges consists have it :-)
@dsdonovan
@dsdonovan 8 ай бұрын
Another great travel adventure. How was the food on board?
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 8 ай бұрын
I wish i had tried it! But i was unfortunately sick with food poisoning so did not order anything.
@dominichallsworth2477
@dominichallsworth2477 Ай бұрын
Thank you for excellent video. Im planning to use this service in June this year. Does it have a restaurant carriage?
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen Ай бұрын
Yes it does!
@gefitrop3496
@gefitrop3496 8 ай бұрын
Btw, the "O'Z" is pronounced "UZ" in Uzbek and is short for "O'zbekiston"/"Uzbekistan"
@user-xv9rf2ll3m
@user-xv9rf2ll3m 8 ай бұрын
O'z is pronounced as Oz like in Close. Not like Ooz, it's just Russians screwed up the simple pronunciation.
@GeorgeGy
@GeorgeGy 8 ай бұрын
A potential great way to save on the train fare is to be informed that international travel within former USSR is far more expensive than the domestic travel. I.e. if you can, you should "split" the ticket. Therefore booking a very short Tashkent - Kazakh (side of the border) international ticket in the coach class and the rest as a domestic Kazakh ticket in the highest possible class will be the best compromise. We did similar compromise back when Europe was split into East Block - West Block, "cutting" tickets at the last East German town (Marienborn). Similar way we did split the tickets to from Budapest to Lvov / Lviv on Russian train back in 2011 when it still was running through Ukraine: buying surcharge from BP to Lvov, having International through tickets from BP to Ukrainian side of the border (Chop) and Ukrainian domestic through tickets from Chop to Lvov. An other time I was just lazy to do that - so I merely drove with my family from BP to Chop, asked locals where is a long-term car parking lot, left our car there. Three of us took a cab from the parking lot to Chop train station and bought the domestic Chop - Kiev ticket in 2-bed cabins, occupying two such cabins. We saved at least $200 compared with three international round-trips. It is good to know: all domestic tickets are set of course in domestic currency. However all tickets across the borders of the former USSR as well as Mongolia, China, VietNam, NKorea, Laos are set in Swiss Franc. "Fränkli" is of course subject of currency speculation and having in mind the current hostilities, it's value going up. I am not sure about Chinese domestic train prices - but I suspect, breaking up the Kunming - Ventiane ticket will have similar effect. The tickets to / from HK are not affected because HK never was in the international train tariff. It is subject of Chinese domestic pricing the way it is set. For instance buying a single through train ticket (in early days based on Soviet Rbl, later based on Swiss Franc tariff) from Ulan Bator to HaNoi was possible (with train / reservation change in Beijing) - but not from Ulan Bator to Hong Kong. In order to reach HK the proper way was to split the ticket at Guangzhou (so we did - at that time the Rouble-based international tickets were significantly cheaper than the Chinese domestic tickets. Now the similar CHF-based tickets cost presumably more. We will try that hopefully in 2024 or 2025).
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great tips! This will be very usefull next time im back in those parts of the world.
@Taranis79
@Taranis79 8 ай бұрын
It looks like a decent choice to travel between those locations. Sure a plane would be faster, but I'd rather take the convenience of arriving there rested than the hassle of two airports. Did the cabins/compartments have decent soundproofing or were you woken up by snoring of other passengers in addition to the wheel noises?
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 8 ай бұрын
I didn't notice any noise from the neighbours but could have been down to luck. I think others have mentioned the walls being thin on these trains
@SuperalbsTravels
@SuperalbsTravels 8 ай бұрын
@@Simon-Andersen Not like you'd be able to hear them over the banging anyway.
@SingaporeFriedrice
@SingaporeFriedrice 21 күн бұрын
There's no way that a 17 hour train ride should be compared to a 1.5 hour flight. If you were saying the 17 hour ride is better than a 10 flight then it's more of an argument.
@PULATOVKHUSAN
@PULATOVKHUSAN 7 ай бұрын
We have a new built south train station with modern architecture and all facilities, welcome to Uzbekistan ❤🇺🇿
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 7 ай бұрын
I hope to visit that one in the future!
@arjyadas9649
@arjyadas9649 Күн бұрын
Hey Simon, did you book a first class on the talgo? Do all first class cabins come with an attached washroom?
@ronfan6379
@ronfan6379 8 ай бұрын
cooles Video..
@catherinesykes84
@catherinesykes84 6 ай бұрын
Hey! Love the video and I'm hoping you can help me as I want to do the same journey in January. I can't find a way to book tickets online, do you know if it's possible?
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 6 ай бұрын
Yes it should be possible to book on railways.kz/ that's what I did. In theory eticket.railway.uz/en/home should also work. Be aware the train does not run every day of the week
@katankya
@katankya 8 ай бұрын
I took this train from Tashkent to Shimkent on a standard seat. It was a great value for a daytime trip. However, I had the same problem when travelling during nighttime in a private compartment from Almaty to Astana. I couldn't sleep at all, even with earplugs. After that experience, I went back using 3rd class platzkart.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Yeah i think for overnight journeys its better to go for one of the not talgo services
@katankya
@katankya 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your answer,@@Simon-Andersen. Yes, it is good to have this knowledge about this flaw, but back then I wanted to try it anyway :).
@percismehta8959
@percismehta8959 8 ай бұрын
R u aware of the rhymes taught in STD one in our schools - Simple Simon met a Pimon going to the fair🖐️rest forgotten. Now I'm going bk on my journey.
@percismehta8959
@percismehta8959 8 ай бұрын
Among the other trains Iv seen, these r much better.
@clementtang8267
@clementtang8267 2 ай бұрын
May I ask, when purchasing the ticket on the official Kazakh railway website, one of the information needed is the IIN. What should I put in for that column? Thank you very much.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 2 ай бұрын
Identification number for the ID you're using. I used my passport number
@cillianhegarty6942
@cillianhegarty6942 3 ай бұрын
Great video. Is there air conditioning in the room?
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 3 ай бұрын
Yes
@cillianhegarty6942
@cillianhegarty6942 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the reply!
@sunilg7435
@sunilg7435 8 ай бұрын
Hi very nicly covered... I'm travelling from India new Delhi to Almaty on 6th Nov would like to book this train before hand from Almaty to Tashkent... Plz share link to book in English thanks
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 8 ай бұрын
You can book it here eticket.railway.uz/en/home or on the Kazakh railways website, but you might need to use google translate. Not sure November bookings are open yet
@haidaharun9208
@haidaharun9208 2 ай бұрын
Hi, i planning to travel with 5month baby almaty to tashkent and tashkent to almaty. It is okey for baby ?
@davidhartley1155
@davidhartley1155 Ай бұрын
Hi .. I wonder if the train restaurants take card payment ?
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen Ай бұрын
Nope! So being cash
@pauloleary2917
@pauloleary2917 5 ай бұрын
Hi Simon. How did you buy tickets?
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 5 ай бұрын
On the bilet.railways.kz/ website!
@ryusei0423TOKYU
@ryusei0423TOKYU 8 ай бұрын
凄い鉄道!
@percismehta8959
@percismehta8959 8 ай бұрын
What is the comparison. The trains room is better than my home one. Nevertheless i don't mind.
@fahmeyeusoff4316
@fahmeyeusoff4316 3 ай бұрын
Hi, what is the frequency, daily?
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 3 ай бұрын
Various, ussualy at least every second day, but now the timetable seems to have changed to it leaves at 4:40 in the morning from Tashkent 🥲
@othmanabdul6231
@othmanabdul6231 8 ай бұрын
Hi, is there a cheaper train to travel from tashkent to Almaty? This is soo expensive
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 8 ай бұрын
Bus, shared car, even the planes can be cheap. Or you can travel in one of the cheaper cabins and share with other travelers :-) Check the Kazakh or Uzbek railway website for updated prices as they vary based on demand and travel class
@SingaporeFriedrice
@SingaporeFriedrice 21 күн бұрын
What are you expecting to pay?
@percismehta8959
@percismehta8959 8 ай бұрын
What is Central Asia. I know only one Asia. Pls clarify.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 8 ай бұрын
CIS countries is often refered as Central Asia, so Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan
@samalaimukhametova7290
@samalaimukhametova7290 28 күн бұрын
The CIS includes not only Central Asia, the name itself says central. If you look at the map you can see why we should be called Central Asia, East Asia, Southeast Asia and so on
@two_wanderedsouls
@two_wanderedsouls Ай бұрын
This station is which railway station in tashkent
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen Ай бұрын
Main one Tashkent pass
@fontende
@fontende 8 ай бұрын
all the low seated wagons including 2 floors ones are always too noisy to sleep(by my experience), also very thin plastic walls usually (if someone with crying baby)
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 8 ай бұрын
I can't speak for the walls I didn't notice anything but they are very noisy the wagons
@fontende
@fontende 8 ай бұрын
@@Simon-Andersen i was sleeping in new wagons they make these days in CIS region with plastic walls and it's horrible because 2 passengers snoring, one at next coupe was clearly heard inside
@nomadicprantick
@nomadicprantick 4 ай бұрын
How to book this train?
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 4 ай бұрын
Online on either Kazakh railways website or Uzbek railways website
@siprap3930
@siprap3930 5 ай бұрын
How to book the tickets
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 5 ай бұрын
You can book it on railways.kz/ or eticket.railway.uz/en/home?f=undefined&t=undefined&date=&date2=
@michelg2257
@michelg2257 3 ай бұрын
I can't find this train, only 1 departing at 4.30 AM.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 3 ай бұрын
Sometimes it only runs on certain days of the week, try checking a day earlier or later
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 3 ай бұрын
I just re-checked on railways.kz and indeed it seems to have changed to leaving at 4:40 from Tashkent now, not a great change!
@michelg2257
@michelg2257 3 ай бұрын
@@Simon-Andersen Yes and the arrival time in Almaty is also not very convenient. Anyway i'm planning to be there in September/October Hopefully the timetable is changed again.
@samtrak1204
@samtrak1204 8 ай бұрын
You should show your face in these videos so we can see the man behind the voice. Thanks. Sam Jennings (Retired Amtrak Conductor)
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 8 ай бұрын
Maybe oneday, but otherwise my face is public over on twitter :-)
@kaustubhvijay6122
@kaustubhvijay6122 26 күн бұрын
Bhai mere dost ko tkiya nhi chiye
@osasunaitor
@osasunaitor 8 ай бұрын
"THIS IS *STUPID"* No it's not. It's a different technology with its upsides and downsides. Stop trying to attract viewers with these ridiculous clickbait titles please, you won't go anywhere like this.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 8 ай бұрын
Picking the wrong technology for your railway is a pretty stupid move to me. Had Kazakhstan had high quality rails like Spain then it would have been less of an issue
@madiedev3993
@madiedev3993 4 ай бұрын
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