Jehovah's Witnesses Are Looking Pathetic!

[@heathergriggs4463]

I was talking to a friend who is still a witness just yesterday. She admitted that herself and another friend had come to the realization that their "generation" might not be that special and that they could die one day of old age. She regretted not planning better for the future financially as well.

[@Mechabang]

@@heathergriggs4463 and that's the true revelation for those poor people.

[@JC-be5cc]

@@heathergriggs4463 i hope that you can help her leave that cult

[@watchandjewelryloft4713]

Left during COVID. I'm 41. Literally feel like I'm starting from scratch. It sucks.

[@billyd5317]

@@watchandjewelryloft4713 You are starting over, and it does suck. However, (I know that's a big however), it gets better and if you continue to follow your truth you will be grateful. Ironical enough the one verse I recall and laugh, the truth will set you free! LOL, go figure.

[@wyatt92563]

Same. I'm 62 and raised a JW. I truly believed my loving parents when they told me not to plan for my old age because the New System would be here before that. They're both dead. Now, I'm looking at poverty in my old age. So sad. Jehovah sees us and will have mercy.

[@manueloliveira8062]

For those of us that were born in... to sit as a child, 3 meetings a week +++ and be threatened with armageddon and view pictures of destruction is pure evil. The amount of anxiety we were FORCED to endure is disgusting. May they RIP !!

[@geminitwix]

💯💯💯

[@_zoinks2554]

Same here. Born in, left in the 80's as a teen. Back then, the Governing Body was never mentioned. Not once in the thousands of meetings, Bible studies and conventions I was forced to attend. The new JW rebrand and the rest of it is completely alien to the old JW ways. I wonder how the old die-hards feel about this? I remember the talks beating this particular doctrine into the ground :The 1918 generation would not die before Armageddon. Guess what? They are long dead now. This is just one example of their many false narratives.

[@_zoinks2554]

​@@richardschiller7803 listen up. It was NOT including babies and children. The generation of anyone who lived through and understood WW1 era are all deceased. This is how it was taught to us then. I understand they changed it later to extend the farce. Then they had the balls to make it overlapping generations, then they finally said they just don't know, lol.

[@user-vo4wc2jz8g]

Not to mention the never ending conventions - sat there in an echoing stadium, with an endless parade of cut-and-paste men droning on, with just a notepad for entertainment 🤕

[@pattieavenmarg3263]

Or thinking that in 1975 most of the people you knew in school/daily life were going to be pecked at in death by vultures once Armageddon came

[@FixingMyFaithExJWtv]

They all lost their joy becasue they are not sure if its the truth any more...

[@richardschiller7803]

And they are not sure it's the truth anymore because the watchtower rejected my proofs of all their doctrines. They say write and send it in but they say that so they can twist and rewrite what you sent in or outright defy it. The internet gives proof that there is only 7,000 left of the remnant and that proof is 18,000 people make KZbin videos saying that they go to our invite and partake because all Christians go to heaven.

[@richardschiller7803]

Do you know tradition says Ham died at age 536 before sham who outlived his 2 brothers. It matters. Do you know the AID book says that red sea water could be jelled buy ammonia in a wind causing water to blow upward and freeze drying the ground, no it doesn't say it's a comet that would do that

[@richardschiller7803]

There is so much science n words and semantics and scriptures that can support 90% of watchtower teaching but no effort is made to do so

[@MichelleOmalza-r5j]

Ps. When is your birthdate?

[@manueloliveira8062]

I'm sure that by now, the GB all sit around their round table and ponder on " our dream of the generation teaching was BS, What Next ???? "

[@guillaume2703]

Who can believe that God only talks to Americans? It’s ridiculous

[@Silver77cyn]

Who can believe that there is a god that talks to anyone at all.

[@adamantiumbullet9215]

Who can believe there's actually a god? It's ridiculous.

[@stardust3142]

That's cause God speaks English 😂

[@shmmmm-d2u]

Right omg 😂😂

[@lloyd4956]

Lol even as a JW I never thought of some stupid shit like that. God only talks to Americans 😂

[@morningglory9288]

Trinty doesn't appear in the bible, but then governing body doesn't either. So what makes them so special?

[@pattieavenmarg3263]

That was my first thought when he said that! But wait, doesn't the latest Silver Bullet now include those words????😂

[@EarlFaulk]

Also, you know the times where Jesus is asked whether or not he is God in the gospel? Yeah, his answer changes from yes to no depending on the manuscript youre reading

[@terridovey7648]

Nothing does. At least the KJV talks about the Godhead, and we who are saved know for a fact that we have the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. They just don't want to know that you can't have one with without the other.

[@Cryptidsmethodology]

Amen

[@Brandsthatcareproject]

@@EarlFaulk Ha! Ha! Ha!

[@gailfleenor6583]

Back in 1948 my mother, who was new in the truth, was chastised by two older sisters for being pregnant. They told her it would be hard for her to be pregnant or have a new baby and go through Armageddon. She went home and cried. She never told my dad, he wasn't in the truth and he was so excited about becoming a father. Well their daughter was born in August 1948 and here she is 76 years later and no Armageddon!! Mom and Dad have been gone for many years. My mom was a baptized witness, but she was not really strict. Dad went to meetings but never got baptized. I left when I was in my early 30s and it was the best thing I ever did. Married a nice Baptist man who was a wonderful husband and gave me a great , happy life. Much better than the JW I married at age 20 and finally divorced after 15 years.

[@MrSickpuppy10]

My mother is still devout, my father went for a few years in the sixties and decided he could never be good enough and so lived his life in such a way that he just didn't care because he was going to be destroyed anyway. Made our lives a living hell growing up and was the biggest narcissistic A hole you ever met. Hit on every woman he ever met, would take anybody down for a dollar with zero remorse, family included. Just died a few days ago, no family around, I'm the only family member that will attend his funeral and even i have no idea why I'm going. The rest of the family are going to sue his estate probably to make up in some small way for that pain and suffering. I personally don't want a bar of anything he has amassed. That's how much havoc just going to meetings for a few years 60 odd years ago could create within in a family.

[@adellen904]

Hi, my husband and I left last year! Thanks for all those helpful videos! It means a lot as we left the cult and everyone we knew shunned us ! We are so happy we left this awful cult

[@daisydoo1177]

My husband and I have been fading out for the last few years. My husband is still scared of Armageddon and worries we might die for becoming inactive. I feel so much happier to not feel like I am imprisoned by the organization any longer. So depressing and isolating living that way. Glad you broke out too 😊

[@tiffanyhardin1840]

Congratulations!!!!

[@victoriab711]

⁠​⁠@@daisydoo1177we are in the same boat.

[@hoo_maan8735]

lol, I wasn't supposed to finish high school. I graduated in 05. oh, and THEY SAID I'D GET TOO HAVE A PET BEAR in the" New-system". I am bearless...

[@dimitrimerritt7641]

🐻

[@DavidTaylor-ki2ir]

I’m so sorry, that’s un-“bear”-able

[@Fadedexjw]

I was promised a panda. Back in the 80s 😆

[@extraterrestrial4287]

Just grin and bear it.

[@geminitwix]

@@hoo_maan8735 🐻 LESS HAS ME WEAK!💀🤣

[@simonkoster]

Looking at the speaker reminds me of the saying "Some people spread joy where ever they go, others whenever they go".

[@pato7274]

Thanks for that quote! So true !

[@bigboithe8th]

Oh how we all miss the good ol’ days when a Bethel speaker held and read from an actual Bible when giving a talk rather than an iPhone. What’s next? JWs standing around a cart pointing everyone to a website rather than engaging directly with the public with just a Bible? Oh wait, never mind.

[@denisegrant1871]

I was in during the 80s. As a teen, I used to be so impressed at how the brothers giving talks would say a sentence then tell everyone to to look up scripture such every 5 minutes to back it all up. Now, they can't even be bothered and because their congregations have been dumbed down, they accept this.

[@netty5170]

Yes , I feel they have adjusted for the new generations.

[@barrygibbons2803]

Yes but only their version of the bible which has changes Watchtower has made to it and taken out verses and words that contradict their doctrines.

[@dimitrimerritt7641]

✅THIS!

[@ASMR_Orangely]

*What’s your point? What’s wrong with using technological devices?* 🙄🙄

[@tiffany.rhodes]

10:40 This was my first breakthrough in thought when at a meeting and they were talking about how Satan would try and trick us, deceive us, and test us. And I remember thinking... well, what if it's the other way around. What if Satan is the JWs and he's trying to keep me in by tricking me.

[@cultytalk]

💯 BINGO 💯

[@JanelleGonzalez-cm6br]

Dingdingdingdingdingdingding!!!!!!You are 💯 correct. Our heavenly Father is calling you out. Follow His word, Jesus is the word. Bless you, greatly friend.

[@Eric_01]

And then you learned that Satan isn't real, RIGHT?

[@morningglory9288]

@@tiffany.rhodes Jehovah is Satan, so the JW's are truly deceived.

[@trayboss]

I love the way you ended this podcast. Spend more time loving the things you love as opposed to hating the things you hate. I'm writing that quote in my journal.❤

[@dyisltd]

Yes he recently mentioned how he heard the phrase in another vid and how it also impacted him so he decided to add to his outro! Very inspirational 😊😊

[@Livelifewell777]

I personally knew him when we were at Bethel, though I didn't know him well and he was in his fifties at the time he didn't seem as radical as he is in this video. Maybe he's realizing it was all a lie himself. I just spoke to my good friend yesterday who told me that maybe we will be one of the resurrected ones now. It just made my head hurt to hear it. We were the special ones the ones who grew up in the 70s and early 80s. We were the ones who were so fortunate to have born when we were, we would never have to die unless we were hurt in an accident. We were going to make it into the new system unscathed. Now it's like ug, guess that didn't work out so well, oh well still best life ever. I'm like how is it the best life ever. We gave up having children, we worked in unsafe territories knocking on empty doors, are worse having people come to the doors with guns drawn and shooting in the air over us actually happened to me. Naked men coming to the door thinking it was funny. Having dogs bite me I have been bitten 7 times. Lived in rundown mobile homes making minimum wage part-time driving beat up cars, putting 40,000 miles a year on them. Hoping everyday for the end to come because I was so miserable. Yeah it was best life ever 😢

[@heathergriggs4463]

So sorry!😢

[@JanelleGonzalez-cm6br]

So very sad, sorry for this all to common situation. You are now free. Be blessed.

[@JC-be5cc]

@Livelifewell777 have you celebrated Christmas yet?? It's such a great feeling

[@migdaliafuentes1618]

And now that we are turning older over 60 year old, who will help us financially? I’m in USA and many of us contribution with part timing jobs to SS was so low- now many are struggling! And what is the GB doing to help? -yes (silence)- nothing! In my case I got an associates degree and loved and enjoyed so much my career that I get a good salary and a pension! Oh and the watchtower pension too- yeah right!

[@Livelifewell777]

@mig You are so right. All my life as a JW I was rebuked, but down, told I didn't have faith, that I was not relying on Jehovah enough, that soon I would be throwing my money in the street. That I had blood on my hands for not wanting to do more. We actually had a sister in our hall who had went through world war II, she related constantly how they did actually throw money in the street. The sister was held up to me as an example of what would happen to me. I am a naturally born saver, like I have brown hair, brown eyes I need to save. Telling me not to save it's like telling not to breathe. But I listened, I worked part-time minimum wage jobs, I saved even then as crazy as that is but hated myself for every minute of it. I was constantly put into situations where someone needed help in the hall and they were directed to me. The crazy thing was the whole time they were telling me this they themselves were working good jobs and saving one family built a custom house, they got an airstream travel trailer. But I was told keep your blinders on don't look at what others are doing look at only what Jehovah is wanting you to do. Yet I was constantly told that I was wrong for saving I was constantly shamed so much for it. Then one day listening to Clark Howard on a podcast he mentioned this man called Mr Money Mustache, at the same time I found a book in a little library we have in my city called your money or your life. They were game changers for me. I realize there is a whole world out there of people who think and save like I do. Yes maybe we are different than everyone else. But their thinking was exactly my thinking all my life. We used to pile 5 to 6 people in our Honda Civic and drive one way 70 miles turn around and go the other way then we would go to the river which was 120 miles, then we would drive to the little town and have lunch then we would start all over. The town my husband was assigned to before we were married because the need was great had 3,000 people. Never once in the 4 years did I ever work that town and service. All anyone wanted to do was drive. To someone who has the saving gene in them like I do it was beyond nauseating. We would easily put three to 400 miles a day on our car. All the wasted gas all the wasted money. Most of the time we never found anyone home. The little town we were assigned to they didn't want us there. The number one cash crop was marijuana at the time and it was illegal. They had their homemade security systems which were attack dogs and shotguns. They didn't want Jehovah's witnesses because we might report them. I've been bitten seven times, walked back to my car with a rifle pointed in my back. It was all so crazy and I felt very crazy and out of control. I had a brief chance to go to college once when I was working at a bank and I was shamed and rebuked into quitting. What good would college do me as the system was going to be here any day. That was 30 years ago. It's honestly hard not to be bitter. I know, I know, I know I keep getting told being bitter is only hurting yourself it is I agree it is only hurting myself but I look back at these people that are in the FIRE communities and think that could have been me, I didn't need to hate my life. I didn't need to live in fear. I wasn't crazy. I am honestly working on not being bitter but for right now I am.

[@StanMNdirt]

My wife and I started studying on and off in 1973 and became JW’s in 1974. I ended up being an MS, knew “anointed” bros who’s baptism was pre 1914. We had a seminary in our territory and I was a book study assistant so we were expected to understand and explain doctrine such as their chronology and interpretations. Now apparently none of that urgency or history mean much of anything based on what I have observed. We left in 1999 just when the WWW was starting to gain traction with the masses. I remember having to learn the computer and internet for work but having to keep quiet about it at meetings. Those were crazy times as we had some brothers involved in the early days of programming and networking. We had to have secret conversations in hushed tones so we wouldn’t get in trouble with the older ones that made the rules. Today I am tapping out this reply on my iPhone and do everything online. What more could we expect from an organization that took 100 years to figure out that beards are not banned by scripture? I kick myself in the ass for accepting all of this over fifty years ago and devoting a quarter century to it.

[@adamantiumbullet9215]

You're not the only one, Stan. I'm fourth gen JW and was in 45 years before I woke up. When you're in. the thought of ever questioning just isn't there. When you're out, you wonder how you could be so gullible. The only ones we need to feel bad for are, not those of us that woke up "too late", but the ones that have not awakened yet, and, worse, the ones that never will.

[@StanMNdirt]

@ I’ll be starting my twenty sixth year since leaving in a couple months. At this point it’s mostly a distant memory but I watch a lot of KZbin. Ex JW content comes up in my recommendations and I watch a few now and then. When my wife and I convinced ourselves that it was not true we stopped paying attention to religion. Before we converted to JW in 1974 I had grown up Lutheran and her Catholic. I don’t like to use labels but we both live independently from any organized religion the past twenty five years. Really, that’s the ultimate goal is for our JW time to fade into the past. I don’t think it’s good for the mental health to dwell on such a negative experience.

[@unclesalty7778]

Now they have to realize that Jesus is definitely not Michael the archangel!

[@rebeljo4271]

@@StanMNdirt me too!!!!!

[@StanMNdirt]

@@rebeljo4271 that is the negative thing about ex-JW videos. They tend to keep people engaged for years after leaving the org. We didn’t have all these videos (or KZbin) in 1999. When we left we did our best to forget about our past and go out and live our best lives. This staying engaged with WT has the potential to put me in a bad place mentally. People seem to think that it’s up to them to “save” those who are still in. I learned in the Navy to “look out for #1” and do not feel any obligation to reach out to them. I think that in the long run that’s the best approach. I’m in my mud 70’s and was in from my 20’s into my late 40’s. They have already monopolized my thoughts so I avoid all but the shortest to the point videos.

[@dalefurrer3486]

I asked my JW sister what beliefs other religions hold that are so egregious that Jehovah would necessarily have to put them to death at Armageddon? Is it the belief in the trinity, celebrating Jesus' birthday, allowing blood transfusions in an attempt to save a life? She couldn't answer the question.

[@bigboithe8th]

@@dalefurrer3486 good point!

[@richardwaage2999]

I was told by Jehovah's witness that Tony Morris had PTSD from the war and he needed to step down and take a different role in teaching with his mental state . I told him oh I thought it was the bottle gate incident he said what was that Tony Morris was caught in a liquor store with a shopping cart full of whiskey or Scotch

[@cultytalk]

WOW they just make sh!t up!! 😂

[@Mabeylater293]

They REMOVED him from official watchtower videos and publications. Ask that witness if that’s how they treat people with PTSD.

[@irresistible743]

IMO the reason Tony was removed was he opposed all the changes since made which were an attempt to turning over the Norway court ruling. Basically he was saying “No we won’t change anything” and the other GB were of the opinion of “look we have to make changes or this thing in Norway will spread” Tony said “ FUCK YOU! (Or words to that effect 😂) and so they booted him off the GB gave him a house and money to shut up.

[@Fadedexjw]

I think old Tony is true blue believer. And he could see that the GB wanted the praise.

[@JC-be5cc]

@@richardwaage2999 i wish a reporter would camp outside his house for an interview

[@ingramwright5399]

Wait a minute, the end is very near... I've heard that somewhere before. I know, at the Kingdom Hall way back in the 80's. 😂

[@lieblingmike]

I remember it from the 60's. What a shower of charlatans the gb is.

[@Eric_01]

Hell, Jesus was saying it over 2000 years ago! Allegedly.

[@watchandjewelryloft4713]

Pizza place: Your pizza will be delivered soon! Customer: Ok! Thanks! Pizza Place: your pizza will be delivered soon! Customer; it's been an hour! What's going on? Pizza Place: Your pizza will be delivered soon! Very soon! Customer: It's been TWO HOURS! Pizza Place: You're too impatient! We're the best pizza store in the world! It will be delivered so very soon! This is the last part of the final part of you waiting for your pizza! Customer: You're nuts.

[@adamantiumbullet9215]

Followers of CT Russell in the late 1800s asked him if his 1914 date was actually correct. After all, conditions were so bad then, how could this world _possibly_ last until 1914 as he predicted? Stupid is as stupid does.

[@adamantiumbullet9215]

@@Eric_01 As recorded via hearsay, by anonymous authors, written decades after Jesus' alleged life on earth, by people who never met him.

[@audrahill5362]

We’ve been hoodwinked by the Governing Body!

[@GS-mh6ub]

Unfortunately yes we have. It's ok because life starts when you put your faith in the death burial &resurrection of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins.

[@wallyparachnowitsch324]

More bull shit ​@@GS-mh6ub

[@terridovey7648]

​@@GS-mh6ub 🌿✝️ AMEN! ✝️🌿

[@terridovey7648]

It's sad... people get sucked into this Flipping business. They have free labor and feed you with garbage.

[@Jcs57]

You abdicated personal responsibility self awareness along with critical thinking and now you want to hold others accountable or to blame for your personal failures. That’s the core of religious fundamentalism, you’re born tainted the devil deceives you but it’s never because you’re just a lazy lout that really doesn’t want to think or put in the work and effort.

[@pirkkoseppala5574]

How can they say what "other" people think , when they themselves are not even allowed to know anything about " other " religions

[@pije23]

This. A jw loved one said 'catholics never read the bible'. I asked 'did you asked some catholics?' Some time later the same person said 'I never managed to read the bible from cover to cover, and when I try to read hebrew scriptures I get confused and turn to the Greek scriptures'

[@julieellis2076]

That talk was just so judgemental of others and reminded me of how that colours the jw mind. My mum would randomly point out someone in the street and say, almost within earshot of the person, ' oh doesn't that man look silly with long hair' I used to cringe every time.

[@terridovey7648]

​@pije23 😅😅

[@bethany45101]

This is such a good video Wally. I still have contact with my parents and the loss of joy is so real. They went from being the happiest people on earth to the most miserable people on earth…

[@roseCd10]

I grew up with my dad being a witness but he was never so strict because he was in and out but now that I’m in my 30’s and realizing he’s lived his life following their doctrine of not evolving, not wanting to get more or be more out of life. It took me this long to realize I have also fallen into this way of thinking because all my life i didn’t know what i wanted to be. I’ve never pushed myself because I was never pushed by him. It’s a sad reality. Thank God I have found an amazing church and I want to boost the word of God and boost myself for ALL my achievements. God is love! He wants us to live a happy life on this earth as well as in paradise. I pray the younger generation growing up in a Jehovah’s Witness household gets woken up way before I ever was.

[@GregStevens123]

"Hope deffered makes the heart sick" Proverbs 13:12. There was a whole lot of anticipation with Covid and the conflicts happening that this was end. One elder I know seemed literally giddy with excitement... now these things have dissipated it only makes sense for the rank and file to become jaded and dejected.

[@extraterrestrial4287]

Well things are going to heat up on the world scene shortly. We might even be headed into a great depression or World War III so they should really start cheering up again.

[@terridovey7648]

​@@extraterrestrial4287Naaa... president Trump won. We're going to be just fine while he's in office.

[@robr2303]

​@@extraterrestrial4287lol

[@watchandjewelryloft4713]

Pizza place: Your pizza will be delivered soon! Customer: Ok! Thanks! Pizza Place: your pizza will be delivered soon! Customer: It's been an hour! What's going on? Pizza Place: Your pizza will be delivered soon! Very soon! Customer: It's been TWO HOURS! Pizza Place: You're too impatient! We're the best pizza store in the world! It will be delivered so very soon! This is the last part of the final part of you waiting for your pizza! Customer: You're nuts. Pizza place: (Months later) You're pizza will be delivered soon!

[@lh1673]

My JW relatives & family (in their 60s, 70s, 80s) are starting to say Armageddon can come after we die😅They don’t realize they are telling lies going door to door saying: End is NEAR😅They are actually PUZZLED😂

[@Livelifewell777]

I know, my good friend just said that exactly. Oh well I might have to be one of the resurrected ones now. We were just teenagers being told we were special and that we would never die, now it's like an, guess that didn't work out well but it's still the "truth" best life ever. How? We gave up having children, lived on nothing to knock on empty doors, or worse have householders pull guns on us, or be bitten by dogs. To live in run down mobile homes with broken down cars putting on 40,000 miles a year telling people what William Malafront is still speeling. Oh yeah it was the best life ever 😢

[@extraterrestrial4287]

The entire New Testament from Matthew through Revelation conveys the message that THEY were living in the last days and that the end was near. "The end of all things is near"1 Peter 4:7 Even the book of Revelation opens up with the statement that it is a revelation of things which must SOON take place. SOON to those living back then 2000 years ago, not 2000 years later in our day.

[@extraterrestrial4287]

​@@Livelifewell777I feel your pain. I was told to wait until after Armageddon to get married. That was 30 years ago.

[@simonjusticier333]

It's about their egos, and having sacrificed so much, it's difficult to admit that they were wrong

[@StanMNdirt]

@@simonjusticier333 they’re saddled with early 20th century teachings that have become impossible to walk away from. The biggest thing for me was knowing professed anointed who had been baptized around 1914-1920. They had a much different understanding of their doctrines in those days. That new light thing doesn’t fly when they had tasked us with understanding all the chronology and doctrine then ignoring those things like they never happened. As someone out since 1999 the thing that stands out to me is the dumbing down and sweeping changes that were considered critical teachings. That should never happen with their core doctrines that so many have followed their entire lives. I’m not likely to ever join another religion but if I did it would require intellectual explanations of all key doctrine and complete transparency. I have nothing left to give to any belief system that doesn’t address science and known human history. Our understanding of those things is 100x more than I remember having in the 70’s.

[@JanelleGonzalez-cm6br]

If this talk doesn't wake a person up, I can't imagine what will. It's a real eye opener if you apply the talk to Jehovahs Witnesses.

[@jmark7390]

My grandpa has been died for 30 years, my dad passed away about 7 years ago. I am sure as fuck glad I went to college and lived a upper middle class life style and can retire with money and die like everyone else. I have so many in my congregation demand that I help them with legal problems and I never do especially the ones that comment on higher education.

[@ellegee4683]

Yep. NOBODY gets out of here alive. Just the facts.

[@Angieslalaland]

Another excellent job Wally🔥🔥🔥

[@BobRoigr]

As a former Jehovah's Witness myself, some of these people won't let go. Specially because it is all they grew up with, so sometimes regardless of the changes, is it still blindly supported until the day they die. No it's not to say that they, don't have the right to. It's just when you only view things, from one perspective all your life. for some people, they just can't let go.

[@trailtreker7002]

Yes , and , and when you see the crowd at the Governing Body Convention ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZaneaJumqZ9mrM ) they are all the OLD Ones ..... that cant be told anything New . ' Old Dogs " indeed

[@philholgate53]

I had to give my head a shake after attending a funeral and having to listen to a JW mock the Religion of the relative who had passed. The arrogance was unbelievable.

[@markw6142]

Wow! That's sick!

[@simonjusticier333]

Sounds like something the Pharisees would do!

[@SPARLOCK_THE_WARRIOR_WIZARD]

Wth

[@grammargoddessNYC]

I just cannot believe people are sitting through this!! I cannot believe at one time I did. He's just talking and not providing ANY scriptures to support it. And he's cherry picked the few scriptures he does reference - to support their doctrine - FROM HIS CELL PHONE. They don't even use a Bible amymore. This is crazy.

[@terridovey7648]

He doesn't know that God will not be mocked. This is exactly what he's doing.

[@Eric_01]

I noticed that immediately. Even if just for optics, using a phone from the stage looks ridiculous. But, even at your door they just shove an ipad in your face now. They caved to technology really fast, in my opinion, and it made them lazy and even more ignorant.

[@S7.s7-v7n]

I saw him give a talk at a Gilead lecture.. He said, “what do you want me to believe??! That after I die I’ll just disappear?? I can’t accept,that! I won’t!” Not exactly a solid argument for universal truth.. People believe what they need to to get by..

[@julieellis2076]

Wow

[@simonjusticier333]

Fear proned instead of love or truth.

[@allanu6416]

Awesome video! Bullseye on EVERYTHING you said! Amen my brother!

[@Bob-pk8bb]

Fire video thank you so much for all your work!!

[@federicaturrisi5483]

You are my favourite English speaking KZbinr. Many thanks. Hugs from an Italian ex JW living in London.

[@geoffreybunting9837]

I see the 2024 Service Report is out (at last). The figure for the average publishers for 2024 was 8,828,124. The figure for the average publishers for 2023 was 8,625,042. This is an increase in 2024 of 203,082, but the number baptised in 2024 was 296,267. If you subtract the increase of 203,082 from the number baptised of 296,267, then you have 93,185 unaccounted for

[@PeterDinev78]

Do you understand the meaning of the word "average"? If so, you should be able to understand the figures...

[@geoffreybunting9837]

@@PeterDinev78 No, what does average mean?

[@simonjusticier333]

I don't believe those numbers, and I'm guessing by average publisher, they mean anyone not in the full time ministry as a pioneer.

[@joanjohnson5973]

Problem with these numbers they fail to give more info. First, how many of the baptized are born in and became unbaptized publishers and were counted before they were baptized. How many were removed, how many died. When you think about it how many per congregation were actually brought in from so called world and not born in. There numbers mean nothing except the monetary amount you are worth to the GB.

[@Eric_01]

You used to have to at least maintain the "average" of 10 hours per month to even be considered an active publisher. That number dropped, of course, but now they don't even report time at all, just a Yay or Nay if you witnessed at all. Who's going to turn in a Nay?! They've devised a way to count every head in the building as a publisher now.

[@Sad_Monkey]

His Grandfather? HE himself probably sold his house to pioneer in the early 70's and proclaimed the end was coming in 1975!

[@Denariusjay]

Thank you for the content Wally

[@jeffbrown423]

It just seems weird to me now. Looking back to 40 years ago realistically, it was weird then too lol. The paranoia is as real today as it was then. Blows my mind that this is what I grew up with

[@richardschiller7803]

I hear you everybody at the hall is a wolf inside, either truly is or falsely accused of being so. It is because the Hall attracts selfish narcissism those who are right and see all others as wrong because soon God will destroy others not you and for you. They fail to see crying over detestable things can be a pedophile whose victim is screaming and imagines the brat will die in Armageddon. It starts with husbands and wives who want their mate dead at Armageddon

[@jevonator_9479]

When I started giving public talks in the mid 2010s, there was instructions on the outline not to call out other religions by name 😂 So I do know why it changed, but you’re so right about that, Wally

[@simonjusticier333]

They never had real joy. They're now realizing that they're in an abusive relationship.

[@Victor-m4s4i]

It’s a pep talk and desperately seeking validation because Leadership knows members are getting tired, passive and losing sense of urgency.

[@geoffreybunting9837]

9.58 They are, repeat, are preaching a message of their own development. For example, 607 to 1914; 1919; the 144,000 only going to heaven; paradise Earth; and the Faithful and Discreet Slave. JWs are lumbered with these obtuse beliefs and the stuff that follows from them. William Melloncunt is an old man reinforcing his beliefs by just staunchly repeating them in the hope he convinces himself of his bullderdash

[@terridovey7648]

🎯🎯

[@tarachapman916]

Why I left the organization is simple the way they treated me and my daughter and my dad telling me something was wrong he told me in 1996 watch and see those elders are doing the same stuff catholic priests are doing. He was certain of what he said and he was right

[@julieellis2076]

Omg 😮

[@extraterrestrial4287]

I remember a sister Chapman. Not sure if you're the same sister Chapman though.

[@ellegee4683]

@@extraterrestrial4287 "sister" **barf**

[@sgt.v7237]

Thanks!

[@BillWalters-kx8sw]

I remember during covid all the JW said this is it we never coming out of this lol

[@rebeccalucas6063]

They know deep down it's not true, but pride, and fear of looking dumb prevents them from admitting it. The elderly folks, know nothing else, so they cling to the only thing they know, probably fearing what REALLY waits for them when they die. The cognitive dissonance is mind games that even those of us who came in through field service are trying to sort through, so the brain washing is bad on everyone, born in, or field service brought in.

[@extraterrestrial4287]

Jehovah's Witnesses are losing their religion nowadays not because of the peculiar beliefs of the religion, but instead because they are realizing that the Bible itself is wrong. We have made great strides in understanding of the cosmos with the advent of powerful telescopes and space exploration. On the other hand, the bronze age goat herders that wrote the Bible had no idea. Most people would agree that the Earth is a planet in a solar system with other planets that orbit the Sun. The Bible teaches that the sun, moon and stars are simply lights in the sky with an ocean of water above them.😂

[@simplifiedlife8607]

To call someone's beliefs "absurd and nonsense" is so arrogant and demeaning. One of the things I disliked the most when I was a JW was the bragging and superior attitude. They actually have (or had) a regular meeting part entitled "organizational accomplishments". Wow.

[@terridovey7648]

Pride comes before destruction. But they will never know that... they have NO idea what the Bible says.

[@orchidorio]

"Another point to keep in mind once the persecution comes." I busted out laughing !!!!!

[@cultytalk]

Wait WHAT?? They WANT them to reply to challenges to their beliefs now???? That's NOT what my mother or sister EVER DO!! They told me NOT to talk to them - about ANYTHING to do with religion!! Thats not "answering or making a stand for their beliefs!" That is being a COWARD and running away in FEAR!

[@extraterrestrial4287]

They are quick to say that they don't debate

[@cultytalk]

@@extraterrestrial4287 Right - cuz they constantly tell the JWs 2 different things to do. No wonder they're so confused!

[@extraterrestrial4287]

@@cultytalk that's done on purpose just like the dating scene. Filled with confusion and frustration. They want the JWs to have premarital sex. Then they can dump mountains of guilt upon them. People filled with guilt are easier to control and use "You sinned! Do more for Jehovah! Give more for Jehovah!"

[@cultytalk]

@@extraterrestrial4287 ABSOLUTELY

[@lynb_11]

Growing up going to meetings and my family all being jws greatgrand parent to mother , i think i met one happy JW other wise ive never known them to be happy joyful people. They tend to be very fearful, depressed, jealous of others, angry, jaded people. Atleast the ones ive come across. Growing up my mom said once her parent became baptized all joy left their family.

[@terridovey7648]

Well, the founder of the wt didn't believe the Bible and left his protestant church and then started his own cult with his beliefs. Of course there's no joy. Satan doesn't like people being happy. That's who controls this sect.😢

[@OlgaTorres-q3d]

Good morning Wally. You're great man. Keep up the good work. Keep those videos coming. Many blessings from The Father and Son. Ismael, Kingdom Christian Witness of Jah from sunny 🌞 Puerto Rico.

[@ItsAllAShow]

I love how he says people in the world see them as apostates. 😂

[@georgeporgy7568]

When I was a witness I once asked, if were suppose to be nonviolent what do we do when were directly confronted with violence and I was told we defend our self.

[@lh1673]

Even the MESSAGE from Jehovah can’t solve the problems of this world is the reality! And didn’t this org published a study article in 2024 May, that God’s MESSAGE can’t REACH to every single ones on earth! What good is this message then!?😅

[@greyfox78569]

Yeah that thing about old rides Six Flags Texas has one of the original coaster from the 60's still running. It basically a kids ride now but back then it was scary for adults.

[@JTdayoneBev]

I can’t help but to feel like this talk is extremely similar to Jim Jones final speech to his followers and we all know what happened there! It’s extremely disturbing 😞

[@terridovey7648]

I pray the jw's don't drink the kool-aid.

[@adamantiumbullet9215]

@@terridovey7648 They already have, Terri.

[@CharlieJaff]

I was born into Church of Scotland at birth. Later chose Jdubs. But have questioned both religions. I'm sure many can relate to that.

[@JW.ORG-LIED]

100% Finding the mind of Christ, and exegetical scriptural study, allowing the holy spirit to guide you.

[@user-vo4wc2jz8g]

You are right to question them - great work! Keep questioning everything, including the origins of religion in general 👍

[@Flashheartwoof]

I’m catholic. I doing a course recently and one of the other people on the course said something like “when I arrived in Britain I was searching for a church and God guided me to become a catholic”. I pointed out that this is clearly nonsense and is exactly what JWs, Mormons etc say all the time. It’s very comforting to have that belief, but if you think about it, it’s simply illogical and demonstrably untrue.

[@MaryWallace-wv2bn]

We never learned to question. We learned not to.

[@extraterrestrial4287]

The Bible is not the words of An Almighty creator. The bronze age goat herders that wrote the Bible had no idea of the nature of the cosmos. We have made great strides in understanding of the cosmos with the advent of powerful telescopes and space exploration. Most people would agree that the Earth is a planet in a solar system with other planets that orbit the Sun. The bible, on the other hand, teaches that the sun, moon and stars are simply lights in the sky with an ocean of water above them.😂

[@dunk_law]

The gospel of Caesar claimed to be a gospel of peace and security - the Pax Romana. It brought running water, paved streets, temples, fountains, baths, education, theaters, art, the games, recognition of accomplishment, accumulation, and other things that made life pleasant and happy (at least for the upper classes).

[@phillipsugwas]

The "well being of others". Is this a serious statement. No care for the poor, no prayer (?) nor support for the sick. No care for social issues, no schools or institution of higher learning? What do they really say James is saying to his readers? The arrogance and self importance is sadly reflective of the antithesis of Christian character.

[@terrificfrogg8377]

5:59 Just like the word Trinity, the words 'Governing Body' don't appear in the Bible. of course they'd use some scriptures and claim they refer to a body of only men which govern. People who believe in Trinity can also do that!

[@richardschiller7803]

Well a group to govern they might squiggle that one around. How about a better example the word pioneer. Or note how they don't want to say minister so they say ministerial servant. Did you know an elder is in Greek an Episcopal e-bishop-al. As we were reading the new arrangement and all the magazines and books I could see it was all the same words Christendom uses. But it's okay us using it, not okay then using it.

[@richardschiller7803]

Watch star does have Trinity. Trinity means three witnesses can I use three in judicial committee it's a triad. Just because the triad is not one person but three persons does not mean a triad or three witnesses does not exist or is not required. A tripod cannot stand anywhere with two legs no matter where in space you are. Two legs wobble and so does four legs but never three legs

[@julieellis2076]

Lots of jw words don't appear in the bible : paradise earth, the great crowd of other sheep, the remnant, kingdom hall, these are all expressions to make you think that they're biblical teachings. ❤

[@buckrogers8214]

You have the best analysis. And just hearing this talk reminds me of so many times I was sitting at those conventions believing that whatever was said on that stage was gospel. Good job Wallster.

[@rockpadstudios]

We went through the Revelation Book twice when I was young. I really believed it but as they say, "time is the enemy of a false prophet". When I watch JW's now I see why most people didn't listen because it's a con game. Peddling and imaginary savior to protect me from imaginary demons.

[@StanMNdirt]

I was a book study assistant to an elder who took Florida vacations to escape winter. It seems like whenever stuff like explaining doctrine came up he would be out of town. Imagine that, decades ago I used to stress out having to explain this stuff. I was a decent speaker and even started getting some public talks. Don’t miss having to explain all that stuff that has since been swept under a rug or abandoned entirely. I wonder if these guys ever sit down and go over their century long gaslighting and flip flopping? It went as far as changing doctrines then changing them back then changing again. New light appears to cover anything they want without notice.

[@rockpadstudios]

@@StanMNdirt You have to admit the "new light getting brighter and brighter until the end" was a master class in peddling false hope.

[@StanMNdirt]

@ one has to admit that they got a lot of mileage out of the concept. Apparently convincing their members that wrong information is routinely sent to them from the heavens works. Back in the 70’s we just accepted things, it was a different time and much harder to verify grandiose claims.

[@rockpadstudios]

@@StanMNdirt Yeah, 1914 was still in play so the old guard had it timed just right. They would die before the 80 years was up. "Brothers and Sisters - Jesus has come, really! where is he? We can't see him, but he took his invisible throne in heaven". Peddling an imaginary savior to protect us from imaginary demons. That pretty much sums up religion.

[@StanMNdirt]

@ those old guys and gals who came up through the WWI generation lived in a different world than we do now. That was my grandparents generation and my parents were WWII. I came up during Vietnam and was a veteran prior to becoming a JW.

[@freeloxleymusic]

Thank you!

[@ramrod576]

I loved yout passion behind this one. You were almost jumping out of yiur skin in frustration. Lol. Appreciate it !

[@DerivativeWorker]

21:00 They really are never going to change, at least in practice. What they will change is how public they are with the information that makes them look bad in courts!

[@b4ph0m3tdk9]

The Truth, my friend, is blowing in the wind...

[@greggcoppolo8430]

@@b4ph0m3tdk9 Love your comment!

[@debraalexander9535]

Hey Wally. They're really are feeling the backhand slap & sent in the mortician to boost the remaining stalwarts . 2025 is here & I genuinely believe that they thought paradise would be too. Hope you're staying healthy & safe. 😊

[@megan148]

I’ve never heard anyone say watchtower are “apostates” for not believing in the trinity

[@TheWriterWalker]

Great analysis of this talk. I have lost the ability to analyze this sharply, if I ever could. So, thank you for doing it for us; everyone needs to see beneath the verbal layers of Watchtower rhetoric to know how this powerful mind-control system accomplishes its goals. Can do without your closing expression (the A-word), but the rest of what you say is on point and much appreciated.

[@hoo_maan8735]

oh and very good job on ur quality of ur sound work sir 👏

[@froiski75]

I will not Boast this organization (jehova) I’m ashamed and angry for its lies and crimes.

[@bortiz11]

On your intro alone, I must agree. My JW wife recently recorded a 30-min audio of a presentation and wanted me to listen to it and give her my thoughts. I did. Recording on my headphones, one tablet with their website-based Bible on one side and a document open on the other, I did my due diligence. There were about three little things of substance there, but that was it. I identified three misquoted Bible verses that no one would have caught - and my wife definitely did not notice. I identified efforts to dumb down definitions of words and terms (mostly "sleep," in this case) to make his main analogy work - it was a decent and poetic effort; I'd give him B+ for effort, and B- for effectiveness, honestly. But as someone who is better educated in the Bible and the WT prophecies and theology than they are, it did not seem to me to be anything more than sophistry and simple mind tricks to keep them on their toes with mass manipulation and fear-inducing tactics. As I am considering a graduate degree in anthropology, I am now considering switching my concept of thesis to cults, since I have such ample knowledge and access to them! I must think about this and read more into the subject first...

[@hadaku]

Wally, you do such a fantastic job with your podcasts. Thank you!

[@cariocajin]

Hi, Wally ! I can't wait until you make a video about this month's Broadcast ( 1/6/2025 ) . It's crazay ! I can barely watch it....

[@theoriginalwaterbaby]

13:45 as you highlight the "scoffing" & not even trying to establish a counter argument.. 😮 or acknowledging the source of current jw discouragement... 😢 ...I'm realizing that the Reasoning Book has not even been mentioned in maybe 5 years or more! It used to be a badge of FT ministry to be well-versed in our copies of that book, along with "chains" of scriptures, carefully noted in the margins of our Service Bible. Even in difficult "Foreign" Language fields, using the translated & culturally filtered version was seriously a thing! And now? Crickets... 🦗🦗🦗 ...and Calling Cards.. 🤔 🙄 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@alyssapatmore2747]

My dad, who’s still an elder, told me that Tony Morris is in Germany at the branch there…. I think they’re all just making up best case scenarios 🤷‍♀️

[@Eric_01]

Wow. Because we know he is not in Germany, that's pretty wild.

[@ellegee4683]

Huh. Must have switched his preference to beer.😆

[@davinwilliams6331]

You are spot on And I love the passion

[@NemesisFromResidentEvil]

Seems really crazy to me that the Jehova’s Witnesses acknowledge quantum science but refuse to live by what it says

[@susyq76]

Happy New Year!! Omg, i Love, love, love your videos. I agree 💯%. Had a really good laugh at this one. Everyone else is such a ding dong, lol. They laugh at other doomsday cults, and they preach the same.

[@treybonnot5448]

I watched a breakdown of the rest of this assembly, and Malenfant and the others really made me remember what it was like to be a PIMO witness. Sometimes lookig back at them now you wonder how they can possibly believe the things they do, and when you see this stuff, I just remember the violent cognitive dissonance and shoving down of reason and thought.

[@Godly-Beard]

I find it really odd and strange how he is holding his cell phone while giving a talk, I grew up with them using an actual bible and turning to the scriptures. They abandoned using a hard copy bible for mobile devices, This is just a completely unrecognizable organization that can't be taken seriously.

[@StanMNdirt]

The thing that stands out to me is their gradual change from learning and explaining doctrine to cheesy emotional appeals. All of their videos and music videos are like fluff today compared to how we had to do things like explaining their most convoluted teachings.

[@ellegee4683]

@@StanMNdirt Just to be clear, it was always crap.

[@StanMNdirt]

@@ellegee4683 true but back then there was also the disadvantage of sketchy access to information in those days. Today if I want to research a religion I can Google it on my phone. In the 70’s we had to go to a public library and try to find things with the manual filing system through what they called a card catalog.

[@greyberet1]

I’m a raised in longtime exjw and I remember even as a teenager I wasn’t that impressed by the prospect of living forever. And as a man of 76, I’m even more convinced that living forever would become an immense BORE! Just imagine having to get up and use the toilet every day, cleaning oneself and one’s living quarters daily, going to some work that one finds boring every day, and all the rest of it-forever… F that!! Being dead is not painful, how one arrives at that state might be, but for most humans it’s rather quick, so what’s the problem… Life is just one big hamster wheel 😆… Just saying. And that’s even if everlasting life were a real possibility, which it is NOT!

[@JerryJohanan]

I think the biggest reason why people stay in. It's because everybody has titles from a publisher to an elder. Everybody has some sort of title, and it makes them feel good about themselves like they're somebody

[@taliawoolf3192]

Good point.

[@virtualcolditz]

You make a great point, though, Wally. They try to prove that they are right by trying to prove that everyone else is wrong. I don't call that a firm foundation for belief....

[@Ottonio]

They boast in Jehovah by saying: "It's not our fault, it's Jehovah's fault!"

[@lloyd4956]

Lol Jehovah/Allah has some explaining to do.

[@lloyd4956]

Lol Jehovah has some explaining to do.

[@S7.s7-v7n]

26:45 When you’re 90 years old, you have nothing to fall back on but “confidence and swagger”. What are you going to do? Admit you were wrong for 60 years and now you’re going to die?

[@julieellis2076]

Here's something to do my friend. I'm in my 70s. I love listening to Mythvision with Derek Lambert, also Gnosticinformant with Neil Siddik? It's always really interesting where these myths come from. By the way, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater as the saying goes. I firmly believe in an afterlife, although I'm an A-theist. I'm also very interested in quantum mechanics and believe it's proving that everything is connected somehow and that there is no such thing as nothing. We go somewhere, consciousness doesn't die. I think science and belief will meet somewhere in the middle. We don't need religion, that's for sure. ❤ have a good day xjw from uk

[@simonjusticier333]

Get over the fear! God is love.

[@S7.s7-v7n]

@@julieellis2076 Maybe I gave the wrong impression. I was speaking from his point of view, but I actually agree with you. I only disbelieve the Bible’s version of things, past and future, but I also believe in life after death, in part because of the quantum mechanics you refer to! :-)

[@hadaku]

It's so sad that the rank-and-file is totally oblivious to the fact that this so-called "good news" is over 100 years old. And, by the way, the "god of this system" that has "blinded the minds of the UNBELIEVERS" (those who still refuse to believe they are in an actual cult) is the god they think they are worshipping. It's so sad.😢

[@StanMNdirt]

Another fact that nobody talks about is that if we Google a pie chart of religions adherents world wide all of Christianity is stuck at 1/3 of the world’s population. They’ve had two thousand years to convince all those folks that adhere to other beliefs yet here we are still pretty much at square one. Religion is more dependent on geography and upbringing than knowledge and truth.

[@ejedijedi9749]

How did they get Appointed by God to annoint with Oil and our Govt missed that memo ?

[@extraterrestrial4287]

They claim to be Spirit anointed and at the same time say that they are not inspired. Inspired means Spirit anointed. They have no idea what the hell they're even talking about. Just pulling it out of their asses as they stumble along.

[@AKayfabe]

something is very insidious about telling everyone you should not strive for things in life because you just might lose them to some unexpected event. If everyone thought that way no one would be doing anything at in the whole world. Everyone would just be homeless or not work because they might lose their house and job. Why are these guys building Churches if they might burn down, if something might go wrong. What a bizarre way to see the world

[@morganrickards3811]

YoooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoo that dude did the voice of Joshua on the og dramas

[@jrojala]

Ohhh, nice use of “Pugnacious”

[@markw6142]

He said " We're proud of the good news and of our god". Well, why was Geoffrey Jackson embarrassed to say to the ARC hearing that it would be "presumptuous" to assume JWs are the only people on earth with god's blessing? Where's the pride there? It baffles me the JWs soak up this garbage without question.😢😢

[@froiski75]

They do not give defense they just keep making excuses…if your JW and you brought up facts , they will not going to defend, they will make you shut up and if don’t you will be shunned.

[@lonniestilley8382]

This organization definitely puts others down while claiming they care & want to help them.. the irony 🤣

[@christinesotelo7655]

Same message, I swear, since the 70’s before 1975 Armageddon. Persecution now. Persecution then. Persecution all the time! Too depressing. Life is tough for most, up and down, JWs bring on their own persecution. Satan is their god. That’s all they focus on. The majority of people balance the good with the not-always-good and keep progressing. I honestly see JWs standing frozen in fear and time. And look at the GOOD people they have and ARE persecuting by shunning and death and CSA for years!!! Right. There is nothing new or enlightened or progressive to say anymore. He’s also jumping around subject-wise. He’s not really making sense or offering anything. Just the same old doom and gloom. Psychologically, he fears his own death and wants to take down the whole membership of WT with him. These men are quite psychotic.

[@manueloliveira8062]

This guy should leave Bethel and face the harsh reality of life, the life their god keeps permitting

[@adamantiumbullet9215]

13:40 "I am made of Adamantium, baby!" I feel the same way.

[@Alittlelexus]

The governing body boasts about themselves and there accomplishments, even boasting about Ramapo and saving trees... whilst belittling others..

[@caribbeanman3379]

They don't know Luke 18:9-14

[@MattG171]

I really appreciate your content. Boy those suits in upstate are really difficult to listen to. I swear it must be some kind of hypnotic tone they use. I cringe so bad after being away. Yuk

[@jasonzuniga2587]

Lol, all I could think of was Trump with his accordion hand gesture saying "Many People".