Jehovah's Witnesses Do Not Honor Rights Guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.

[@dissidentfairy4264]

A very compelling argument and interesting perspective on something that affects the lives of millions. I could tell my mother (who was an elder's wife) never felt completely comfortable shunning disfellowshiped ones who would attend meetings and were trying to work their way back into the organization. I would take her cue and give them an encouraging smile when I happened to see them. To let them know we admired their courage. I also remember the appreciative smiles I received back from them in return. What courage it must take for an individual who feels shamed by their conduct to actually step foot into a KH where they know they will be treated as non-existent as if they were dead. It takes a very strong person to do it. I say kudos to anyone who had the fortitude to claw their way back. I felt nothing but compassion for them. Thank you for your riveting presentation, Eric, and it's wonderful to see you looking so very well.

[@MorenaNative]

I was one of those people. I got reinstated because my grandmother was up in age and I knew I wouldn’t be allowed at her funeral if I was still disfellowshipped nonetheless three years after that, she did pass away . so I was glad that I was reinstated for that reason. But I continue to be inactive, many years later till this day.

[@dissidentfairy4264]

I'm sorry about your grandmother. I was under the impression that a disfellowshipped person could attend a funeral. In the British film Apostasy that was playing on Amazon the disfellowshipped girl was able to attend her sister's funeral. She didn't receive any sympathy or compassion (at least not in the film) but she was able to attend. Maybe someone in the know can clarify the organization's position on it.

[@MorenaNative]

@@dissidentfairy4264 thank you. Let me* clarify. I probably could have attended but my family are witnesses and I definitely wouldn’t of been able to have any interaction with them, even in sorrow. They would just pretend I wasn’t there.

[@dissidentfairy4264]

There's something that feels so wrong about family shunning family. I feel for you on that. It's one thing if they feel the need to shun someone in a spiritual environment inside the congregation if that's what they feel they need to do. It's quite another to impose restrictions on families. There are so many reasons why the disfellowshiped one may need the emotional, physical, and financial support of the people closest to them. The way I see it the announcement of a person being disfellowshipped is humiliating enough, and as long as they are sincerely trying to work their way back why penalize them any further? (Maybe they could restrict socialization for an allotted period of time, things such as parties, picnics, etc.). It seems like that would be enough unless of course, the disfellowshiped one has ulterior motives and is trying to be subversive and deliberately corrupt others in the congregation in some way.

[@dissidentfairy4264]

After giving more thought to it I'd like to add a caveat to my reply. What I proposed would not work for child molesters they should be turned in to authorities. Also, when I said the disfellowshiped one might need emotional, physical, and financial support from family it can go both ways. What if an elderly widow with a limited income relied on her son to care for her? If he's newly disfellowshipped and lives on his own then what? His mother would be penalized too. She would not only lose their close bond as mother and son but maybe his help on all the same levels mentioned above.

[@grantfisher713]

This abuse of power and violation of human rights needs to be widely advertised and referred to the courts of law to make JW.Org more accountable. Just like what has been started in Belgium.

[@Valutions]

Just tell me where to sign!

[@vintage6346]

@@Valutions, Lol.

[@vintage6346]

@Chatsworth Osborne, Jr., The other religions violate human rights, and I pointed this out to people all my life, under the direction of Watchtower. But once I "woke up", I saw how Watchtower had manipulated me to their advantage,...and my loss. No one else could have done me the kind of harm that Watchtower did to me.

[@alliemeade2409]

@Chatsworth Osborne, Jr. out of curiosity why do you resent him for only exposing the JW org?? After all... he was in this particular religion for 40 years/or an elder for 40 years. Isn’t he only expounding on what he KNOWS? Why would he speak on other religions if he is unfamiliar with their particular belief systems and policies? I’m puzzled...

[@vintage6346]

@@alliemeade2409, Right. I could expose "Buddha", but I'd have to start with Wikipedia. :)

[@normablake2748]

Praise God that you are up and edifying the Church. Prayers have been answered. I really enjoy your teaching. Thank you so much. You are a true vessel of God.

[@gnoter2]

OUCH! ... I'm glad that you appear to be doing well, after the surgery! (Thank heaven's for that!) This very strong & well reasoned discussion (argument? legal sense) begs the question of a adjudication/class action suit, on the grounds of it being 1.) a U.S. Constitutional issue, 2.) a breach of (UN) human rights issue. On the surface, it appears to have merit. ... I hope & look forward to the publication of the book(s) you plan to write. I thoroughly enjoy your video's, scripturally based discussions! Thank you.

[@BeroeanPickets]

I am doing better after the surgery, but this video was shot prior to the surgery. Thank you for your encouraging comment

[@mastertechs8767]

Regardless of the subject matter in the video, the best thing is to see you back Mr Wilson! Wishing you all the best on your recovery 🙏🏼

[@BeroeanPickets]

Much appreciated!

[@florican]

Thank you for another well thought out video. I only left the organisation recently and your videos have been a great help to me. I pray that you continue to recover quickly and look forward to future videos.

[@lh1673]

My nephew was DF & his jw mother said, i want him back but if he'll die at armagedon for not repenting, then thats too bad & just have to take it at it is! So unbelievable & unimaginable a mother can think like this! Really a dangerous policy!

[@lindiasanders3948]

I wish a Class-Action Lawsuits against Watchtower for Hate Speech " Apostates" and " Mentally Diseased" and for Shunning.

[@BeroeanPickets]

There is one ongoing right now in Canada

[@quandale3311]

See how that goes for you

[@AraceliGonzalez-se4ud]

I am so glad to see you back. You have been heavy on my mind.

[@BeroeanPickets]

Thank you for your kind support.

[@Savigion53]

Hey Brother! So glad to see you back, and I must say, you look well, and I pray that you continue to feel better and better. Your words of wisdom and obvious love for the truth and your brothers and sisters is heartwarming! Love you!!

[@sherylalismom285]

EXCELLENT! From shunning to human rights to the sin of celebrating birthdays. A logical, scriptural, convincing presentation. I BTW, you look healthy, Eric. Did you really record this AFTER your recovery? I'm so glad to see you looking so well. 😀

[@BeroeanPickets]

No, this was shot just before the operation. I wanted to have a video to release during the time I was in convalescence. That being said, I'm making good progress in my recovery and hope to be able to shoot new videos within two weeks

[@vicroy5603]

What an incredible analysis of how worst, blasphemous and misleading the leaders of JWs' policy of shunning had been laid bare! What an amazing, jubilant joy we have here having you back with sound health, vigour and bounteous blessings Eric!

[@BeroeanPickets]

Actually, this was shot just before the surgery. I wanted something to fill in the gap. However, I'm feeling much stronger now. I'm hoping to produce new videos within the next couple of weeks

[@vicroy5603]

@@BeroeanPickets Great thanks again for properly laying bare the despicable shunning policy of the evil cult.

[@vintage6346]

@@BeroeanPickets, Thanks for that update on your health and your plans, Eric. I will be passing this along where needed.

[@andiepole2204]

Not to mention people are guilty until proven innocent rather than innocent until proven guilty. Brilliant parallel between birthdays and the practice of using judicial committees! I have always had a problem with the lack of celebrating birthdays. I always thought that it was a superstition and not biblical teaching. Thank you for your videos!

[@LouAbbott4]

So glad to see you back at it producing great content!

[@BeroeanPickets]

More to come!

[@ismaelamadot3893]

Good morning, brother Eric. God bless you and happy to see you in full swing once more. May Jehovah and Christ keep you healthy. You are very much loved and appreciated. Now to enjoy the video. Amador, Kingdom Christian from sunny Puerto Rico.

[@BeroeanPickets]

I am recovering well, though this video was shot before the operation.

[@tammyg8031]

Absolutely PHENOMENAL VIDEO!!!! Eric you did an excellent job 👏 on this video. Very very informative and accurate

[@alienlovesecrets9379]

I left many years ago and never looked back. I've somehow forgotten about my past sad cult life. I don't even know if I am officially in or out after I never gave any information about my whereabouts, after leaving. That was 12 years ago. The world needs people like you who keep warning and exposing the cult. Although I am not religious any more, I appreciate very much what you do. Especially your videos visiting that judicial meetings are of immense worth and real eye openers concerning the brainwashing that is going on in the cult of the JWs. What a superhuman courage you showed, I could never do that. Your work is so precious, so much more than people who don't know the JWs would ever understand. If it is of any worth, I want to thank you from my heart what you do. I wish that no person would ever fall into the traps of that cult.

[@vintage6346]

Eric was raised a JW and lived it. So, once he woke up and saw reality, he quickly grasped what he needed to do. I do think that he is Watchtower's worst nightmare. I hope that others who have been on the "inside" of the organization will muster the courage to resist Watchtower's considerable clout and join Eric in exposing that organization's sickening corruption.

[@phillipkuntze137]

Very well thought out analogy

[@pauletteforman]

ABSOLUTELY 💯!!!

[@tucsonan]

No. It isn’t. It’s comparing things that are not alike in any way whatsoever according to the law. Apples to oranges. Logical fallacy. I sympathize with the sentiment, but he’s wrong. The government and religious “law’” are separated intentionally by the constitution.

[@tucsonan]

I’m a former JW and I sympathize with the intent, but he’s not understanding the law. There is a huge difference between private organizations and the government. That’s why KZbin or Facebook can censor your content but the government can’t. The first amendment limits the government exercising any kind of censorship. It does not limit what private firms may do to individuals or what individuals may do to one another in terms of choosing to associate with another (or not). And private clubs, religions, and (non governmental) organizations can place whatever parameters they wish upon membership and reasons for exclusion or banishment. You choose to be a witness or not. Just as your JW family chooses whether or not to shun you. In short, a trial by Jehovah’s Witnesses is not a real trial. It is not sanctioned by the government. It only has the authority afforded it by those who “believe” in it. It has no real authority and no connection whatsoever to constitutional law. The witnesses court is not a real court. That’s a huge thing your overlooking. It has nothing to do with real laws. The separation of church and state prevents religious laws from existing in governmental practice but not from existing within religions themselves.

[@mercurydime8152]

Thank you for these excellent points. Hopefully I can use them to reason with JW family if they ever talk to me again. The Scriptures you use as a basis, and your government analogy are spot on. Thank you for another excellently done video!

[@liliapeterson789]

I'm so greatful to see you again, thanks God we have you back 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@BeroeanPickets]

Wow, thank you

[@GullahGeecheeFarmer]

Jehovahs witnesses are very blasphemous smh..

[@renehettinga6610]

I'M JUST GLAD TO SEE YOU ERIC..

[@BeroeanPickets]

I'm recovering well from the surgery. Hope to be making new videos in another two or three weeks. This particular one was shot just before the surgery.

[@eyesontheprize5]

I always look forward to your videos. Hope you are recovering well Eric😇

[@dianeexley1709]

So happy you are on the road to recovery 🙏😊🙏 Thanks for all you do!

[@BeroeanPickets]

You are so welcome

[@annabizaro-doo-dah]

Eric you seem better I'm so glad to see you up and about. I'm so glad the surgeon's were able to safely operate 💕💕💕

[@flostep9887]

My Daughter had a medical emergency at the wheel and fainted she had a horrible accident unfortunately someone passed away at home suffering serious injuries the elders came at her home with a judicial committee didn't tell her that she was to be publicly deproved for the accident that was no fault of her own they came with some crap like the Israelites had to run to a city of refuge they had to be punished for they had become blood guilty!!!!that's how vile this Organization is wasted 30 years of my precious life I am so happy I found Jesus Christ...this act is a violation of ones human rights...The Courts found her not guilty!!!! Just imagine suffering excruciating pain and then publicly reproved for something you had no control over they wanted to keep their Organization sqeekey clean but fail to protect our children from pedophiles which many of them are elders and ministerial servants!!!! unbelievable are you serious???

[@MarilynNemeth]

Very good. I'm surprised they do weddings. Since trickery was performed at Jacob being fooled into being given Leah instead of Rachel. ( Not to mention the marriages outside their faith; Moses, Rahab, Bathsheba, David, Solomon, ...)

[@gnoter2]

Very good & relevant point!

[@sparklecanada0112]

and also because of the multiple examples available of pagan connections to wedding ceremonies and wedding rings and attire. 🤔🤔Very very interesting and hypocritical on Watchtower Org's part.

[@hunterbhiden8760]

Don't forget that a bridal shower idolizes the bride just like a birthday party idolizes the guest of honor. Never could understand jw logic.

[@davidh5403]

JW Jurisprudence is devoid of scriptural precedence and mercy!!

[@lyallgeorge5489]

Glad to see you back in the saddle Eric.

[@valeriepritchard2900]

Good to see you looking well. ♥️ Thankyou for all you do. ♥️♥️♥️

[@lazerbrain8784]

How on Earth is an over ambitious single man with no children and appointed to elder by family favoritism in any way qualified as a JUDGE? I speak with inside knowledge and observance.

[@markatgem]

We are very happy and grateful you're getting your strength back to continue the work that all of us appreciate dearly. Thank you for the insights on this topic...

[@BeroeanPickets]

You are so welcome

[@dawill2doit]

Welcome back! Strong, clear, message to the flock.

[@jeffj2730]

Jesus birthday was in the Bible, and he received gifts. That would have been the perfect spot to insert “ Mary and Joseph returned the gifts because they did not celebrate”. But it’s not there.

[@eyesontheprize5]

Exactly.

[@annabizaro-doo-dah]

Wow do you know I NEVER thought of that when I believed Watchtower's ideas on birthday. Why on earth not?!! I can't believe It never crossed my mind!

[@dereckamcknight3247]

That can’t be true if they knew Jesus Christ birthday they he would’ve been killed and the promise seed wouldn’t be fullfilly

[@jeffj2730]

@@dereckamcknight3247 are you saying the Bible is not accurate?

[@eyesontheprize5]

@@HenriettaMRiley ???

[@beautyRest1]

Great video! So true! Never looked at it like that!

[@breakingglass50]

Glad your doing well. Question; How do they justify judging others when Matthew 7 vs 1 states; “Stop judging+ that you may not be judged; 2 for with the judgment you are judging, you will be judged,+ and with the measure that you are measuring out, they will measure out to you.+ Copy and pasted from NWT.

[@positiveendtimes]

They claim to judge repentance not the person...just another word game

[@eaglevp]

Nice to see you back Eric

[@spartan_warrior5927]

Glad you’re back. I’ve looked for your videos and haven’t seen you. I was worried something had happened. I hope everything is well with you and look forward to future videos.

[@ladyangi100]

Thank you for informing and encouraging ones what God's word says. So ones will not blame Our Father or Our King knowing they can trust them not men.

[@michelejashinsky8409]

Eric u truly are a gift in men 💜💙❤️ a light to help guide me back to truth after 30+ years of half truths

[@jefftilghman9059]

Great point!

[@eragonzaroc]

Looking better health wise. I certainly agree with this. Thank you for being brave and accurate.

[@vintage6346]

Eric made this video before his surgery. He's always thinking of us. I'm glad he had the strength to push the buttons to post the video for us. :)

[@jwallaby7895]

Hey Pickets! Great video. You've outlined the unjust and oppressive structure of the JW organization very well. But what concerns me is the unlikelihood of a YOUNG person to ever reject it prior to baptism. I'd love to see you do a video on the kind of environment that witness children are actually brought up in. In my case, I was born into the organization and baptized at age 13 (just the right age to make binding lifelong commitments) Prior to my baptism I did lots of research, asked lots of questions about my beliefs, and even went to another church one time in defiance of my parents and elders. I tried to be fair and unbiased. I tried to be critical and objective. But still, I wasn't able to see the organization for what it was. I felt it NECESSARY to gain outside perspective before pushing on towards my own baptism! But this is a sensitive matter for witness kids and is so frowned on by the watchtower. They make such a decision to appear unnecessary if not outright dangerous. (They give the analogy that a banker need not memorize every type of counterfeit dollar bill; he only needs to understand the legitimate bills to avoid being tricked by any false bill.) The organization comes off as if it's protecting you and shielding you from the world so you aren't taken in by it's lies and it's so easy to believe that claim! They make you fearful of the spirit of the world, possibly lurking in academia, the internet, your classmates or even history books. If I didn't just stick with what the society wrote for the most part then I'd risk being led astray or invoking the judgement of my family and mentors. This never sat well with me. Even at the age of 11 I had the intuition to see that I WAS ONLY BEING GIVEN THE WATCHTOWERS SIDE OF THINGS. Eventually, the questions and doubts I had in my own heart would help me to see the truth later. Still, I got baptized at age 13 because I came to trust that I was being groomed for a great work! The organization portrays itself in videos as if it's made up of truly loving and saintly god-fearing individuals. My young eyes saw the miraculous global scope of the organization and the zeal of its missionaries! Some aspects of the work appeared to me as irrefutable proof of their divine blessing. Things like their global preaching work, their racial and ethnic harmony, their religious and doctrinal unity, and their neutrality in political areas. I became thoroughly convinced, (indoctrinated), that it was the truth because of these ideas the organization fed me. And that's kind of my point. Sadly, few witness children have any chance of knowing the reality of their situation as long as they're living under their parents roof. They can't look outside the organization for answers out of fear of punishment. They can't question the answers given to them by the watchtower for fear of being marked as a rebellious trouble maker (the JWs do a GREAT job at demonizing disobedient kids....ehem Caleb and Sofia). And if they're baptized, they now want to avoid being humiliated and shunned. The turmoil and chaos that occurred between my family other JWs got me disfellowshipped twice as a young man (barely out of high school). I've only just now discovered that both of my cases were incorrectly decided according the shepherd the flock of god book (which I was never allowed to read or defend myself with). I never want any child to go through what I endured. I nearly didn't make it out alive. I'm finally PIMO. It's taken me 17 years to come to the real truth of the organization and all of the lies and hidden policies their work is built on. And I have a life I need to rebuild because of them. Edit: It seems illegal to me to disfellowship a MINOR for any reason at all. All of this fear surrounding banishment would create a conflict of interests with a child's basic human rights in certain situations like having good adequate health care (blood transfusions, or treatment for chronic conditions that they might put off believing that the new system is around the corner) and in getting secular education while they're still young. Pickets, I'd really appreciate your coverage on this topic as I'm sure it goes farther than what I've stated here. Thank you for all the work that you do!

[@nathansealey6270]

Glad to see you well Eric & all the best

[@BeroeanPickets]

Thanks, you too!

[@errolcampbell6985]

Shunning is just a part of the foretold "lack of love" especially as the end draws near. It shows who they really were all along... GRAND PRETENDERS. You be strong as we await the day when no one will say...I am sick. We know who so loved the world and gave his son. Such one will never shun us!

[@udaaz]

I cannot watch this right now I have to go to bed, HOWEVER I will watch it tomorrow, Thank for making these videos and man I HOPE YOU ARE ON TO SOMETHING! lol sorry this kind of thing gets me riled up.

[@ShadOband]

An absolute joy to hear logic so beautifully presented! Let the reader discern.

[@exjwwokeup1617]

Thank you for making this video it was awesome!

[@bernadettekelly2772]

You are looking well Eric ! So nice to see you back Brother 💕💕

[@BeroeanPickets]

Actually, I shot this video just before my operation. But on a bright note, I am feeling much better and stronger

[@andrewchristou2857]

Great points emphatically and eloquently stated , although Job and his sons may of celebrated birthdays....either way, who do WT think they are with their stupid man made T & C's pretending it's 'based on the Bible'? They can take a running jump with their self-appointed blasphemy!

[@MrPoohman1981]

Damn this guy is sharpe

[@djiboutidjango3196]

Fantastic Video. I'm happy to see you get better. I wish you well.

[@vintage6346]

Yes. :) (Only, he made this video before his surgery.)

[@jeantan9173]

My experiences prove that you are right. Thanks.

[@vintage6346]

Those of us who Watchtower "put through the wringer" don't need more convencing that Watchtower mistreats the flock.

[@murex0909]

Well put, a very good listen, spot on

[@byebyewatchtower]

Eric. Thanks for your video. Very insightful. When talking about the First Amendment, one notices that there are 5 rights. Why did the founders of the United States Constitution put all these 5 rights in one amendment? They could have broke them apart into individual amendments. I believe that if one of the freedoms gets overpowered, another freedom is pushed out of the way. You put too much spice in a soup, the soup does not taste good and gets thrown out. However, just the right amount of the spice makes the soup perfect. These 5 freedoms act like a balance. When one freedom gets put out of balance, the judicial system will find that another freedom is often cripled. A judge has to enforce that freedom from being crippled and push back on the freedom that is overpowering the one. Thus, restoring balance in the first amendment.

[@preachfromthehousetops2167]

Good to see you Eric! It appears you are recovering nicely. Brilliant comparison, using the society's own reasoning on why birthday celebrations should be avoided against their judicial process. However, I believe the current policy is a person would not automatically be dealt with judicially for celebrating a birthday unless he/she is vocal about it and encourages others to participate. Jerome

[@vintage6346]

... or unless he or she gets caught doing it?

[@MorenaNative]

Nice to see you again! Was wondering what happened?

[@maxcorey8144]

The Amish do the same thing concerning shunning, will even kick you out of your own family.

[@taaadaaa5256]

***Know Your Rights*** - Freedom of Speech - Freedom of Choice - Freedom from Want - Freedom from Fear

[@DanielMJones-ej9kz]

Good job Eric.

[@jimmchemings6140]

Wow Romans 13: 4 .. Thank you so much . Yes they lie !

[@redpillfreedom6692]

The Bible doesn't speak very well of pigs and dogs either. Yet JWs don't disfellowship for eating pork or having a dog as a pet.

[@pamelathomas2362]

I studied with the witness back in 1968. I was part of the prophecy that the end would occur in October of 1975. Well that alone after that big lie was enough for me to leave. They also did not do well when asked question. Some became perturbed. My gut went crazy with crazy with certain answer. I knew it wasn't "True".

[@MrChinchilla_hn]

"We're Right, all of them are wrong" that's JW motto.

[@The_Revealer_7]

Thank you for delivering this important information to the public, Eric. In Jehovah's witnesses judical commitee you are in principle not allowed to defend yourself. I've been to such a meeting in the past. The elders does not want consider your arguments. Neither are you allowed to have a friend as support for your viewpoints and participate in the judical meeting with elders. I can not view a JW judicial meeting as a fair trial.

[@vintage6346]

I had a meeting with a large group of elders. It was not precisely a "judicial" meeting. I arrived with a binder containing xerox copies of pertenent Watchtower and Awake articles. After I referred to one of those articles in my binder, an elder told me that I had to close my binder and not look at it. So, that's what I did. The meeting did not go well for me. They walked rough shod over every point or defense I tried to make.

[@The_Revealer_7]

@@vintage6346 Yes, I can imagine this outcome.Unfortunately, Injustice are often the outcome. Your voice is not heard. I pray that the peace of Jesus Christ will prevail in your life.

[@vintage6346]

@@The_Revealer_7, Yes. It was a kangaroo court, contrived to shut me up. Thanks for your condolences.

[@purplefairy4489]

Glad you look better eric 🥰

[@greatoutdoorsgear7538]

theses topics are exactly why the publications state over and over again our rights or the excersizing thereof is really not important for us to do or focus on, i cant remember the exact issue but i vividly remember the STUPID comments from the brainwashed friends that this that and the other thing is more important than our rights, so even in our constitutional rights only matter when the society wants to excersize them its all screwed up. thanks for this video

[@MiguelRodriguez-xh5fy]

I agree , very well thought like you always do. But the power that religion has is the one the followers are willing to accept. When I was there I never obeyed the shunning policy; I thought it was BS. In your case Eric just like in the case of R. Franz , it seems like you have gained a friend for each one you lost. God bless you.

[@vintage6346]

Miguel, So, you didn"t pass the microphones?

[@MiguelRodriguez-xh5fy]

@@vintage6346 Lol.

[@MrAbhc91]

I was stunned and traumatized being in a room with 6 older men judging me for "sinning" by smoking the devils lettuce a few times. Although I had pleaded and verbally said I had repented that fell on death ears. Those men had not one ounce of empathy rather they looked down on me as a repulsive weak child. I was not even 18 and I had to give specific details by myself it felt very much like a jury set up except they make you feel guilty as soon as you sit down.

[@BeroeanPickets]

@MrAbhc91-- I am so sorry you were bullied and by 6!? Not an ounce of empathy shows us who they serve, not Christ. "For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds." 2 Cor 11:13-15.

[@taaadaaa5256]

Great Job Eric 👍 #wisdom

[@trixiewheeler3483]

I always looked forward to your videos; thank you for your tireless efforts.😊 This is more of a side thought..But the Society’s extremely thin “reasons” for condemning birthdays & considering them a disfellowshipping offense has always been twofold; the 2nd “reason” being, it is bringing honor to the one whose birthday it is, saying we must not honor men, only Jehovah God. However, even as a relatively young child, that latter reason in particular, never made sense to me...If celebrating my birthday is somehow sinfully honoring me, then why were we able to celebrate our parent’s anniversary every year..cake, presents, party w/guests, at times, and all?!🤔 I loved getting to celebrate my parent’s anniversary, don’t get me wrong; it was the only thing we were Allowed to have fun & celebrate. But my young mind couldn’t see how a party for one person’s birthday was worthy of death at Armageddon, whereas, a party celebrating-honoring- 2 people’s wedding anniversary was A-Okay! 😲 Wouldn’t that be honoring not one, but TWO people?? When I was foolish enough to bring it up, my questioning was shut down as wrong. Never Question the Society was drilled into all of us, in direct and indirect ways.😏

[@scotlandd]

One such birthday that was spoken in a positive light was Job. Referred to as, "his day". That makes 4 birthdays. 2 negative ones and 2 positive ones which includes jesus literal birth day where gifts were given to the king although no dates are known exactly for these celebrations.

[@BeroeanPickets]

They conveniently overlook that, don't they?

[@Jewelliet]

I praise God for your waking up! I have two JW biological brothers who are elders in the organization both for many years. I woke up because Jesus's words were in my head about how we know His followers by their fruit, and I realized my brothers (and the other many JWs I know) ARE NOT His followers! So I was actually saved in 2011, but spent three years lost at the Kingdom Hall and intending to get baptized. There's a lot to the story, but you were an elder!!!! If you have any suggestions for me as to how I might reach my biological brothers, please do respond to this post and let me know. Other than that, I try my best and always raise them up in prayer. My sister-in-laws too, who never felt like sister-in-laws or daughter-in-laws. They remind me of modern day Pharisees, actually. It is so sick and so profoundly sad. Thank you for this video.

[@BeroeanPickets]

I am Vintage, Brother Wilson's assistant. Jeweliet, i agree with what you said about so-called family members within JW's not feeling like family members. Mine felt like Cinderella's step-sisters and step-mother. There was no love. Everything was fake and just "for show". You have two very good things going for you. You didn't get baptized. And you are able to sincerely pray for the people in your life. Watchtower uses many tricks to keep people invested in Watchtower trivia. Brother Wilson may still come along and answer you. My answers don't get in his way. Nice to have you here.

[@Jewelliet]

@@BeroeanPickets I am so grateful God pulled me out of that organization. My oldest JW elder left me in the hospital to die. It was my first wake-up call. I told him I didn't think I was going to make it. He responded by scoffing at me and quickly walking away from my hospital bedside as he said with disgust, "Nobody ever died of a broken leg." I had called him because the nurses were dismissing me, telling me I was just suffering side effects. Dismissed at that point, by the nurses on staff and my brother, I laid there praying, because I knew I was dying and my mother would never survive my death. Well the shift of nurses suddenly changed! I was too weak to ask for help anymore (and wasn't even aware of the shift change), but one of the nurses took the initiative. She couldn't understand why I was in that condition, and because she took that time she saved my life! It turns out I am allergic to dilaudid, which was an administered pain killer. When my brother found out that, were it not for that nurse I would have died, he rendered no reaction, no apology, not even one small blink of an eye. How can he do that and love me and my parents? I'm their only daughter and were it left up to him they would have buried me and, I'm sure, never bothered to tell anyone I called for help. He may be biologically related, but he has no love for us and I fear for him. I pray Ezekiel 36:26 for him all the time. He needs the stoney bits of his heart to be sifted away, and he needs a heart of flesh. I praise God for waking me up and getting me out of that demonic organization.

[@Jewelliet]

@@BeroeanPickets Thank you for welcoming me. :)

[@BeroeanPickets]

@@Jewelliet It is shocking who this organization fails to live up to the standards of Christianity that it claims to exemplify. Truly, "By their fruits you will recognize these men". (Matthew 7:16)

[@vintage6346]

@@Jewelliet, I'm so glad you survived. I had a life-threatening experience myself, with almost zero JW support. I woke up a few years later, after a lifetime in Watchtower. Other church groups have given me practical help, though I don't share their beliefs.

[@jafetlamed6354]

Hi Eric, I'm glad to see you well and healthy. This video has been very interesting and opens our eyes to the double systems of rules and the double standards practiced by JW. In relations with humans rights and its Judicial Committees. There is another biblical example of an improper judgement made to a God's servant. This is the casa of Stephen, recorded in Acts cap 6th and 7th. It wasn't during the night, or with the degree of secrecy that in Jesus case. But it was certainly, ilegal and unfair and it was behind of closed doors and with no possibility of witnesses, or of a defender, and with false accusations and false witnesses. For me, as well as there are two cases of negative birthdays in the Bible; there are two cases of improper trials similar to the JW judicial Committees!!!

[@MrAbhc91]

Curious to see how yall brothers interpret 1Corinthians 5.??

[@gayeestey7246]

Excellent!

[@BeroeanPickets]

Glad you liked it!

[@gayeestey7246]

It rather shows that the American people know little about the Constitution to have 8 million follow the leadings of the cult tower.

[@richardgentry676]

Witnesses have become ''righteous over much'' Solomon warned it has a poor outcome. Their outcome is building, it's called a bunker of humiliation.

[@funnyjawharp7026]

In Job, Jehovah spoke to satan on two occasions. Jehovah allowed satan into His presence, His home. Why didn't God say to satan, you are shunned. Why did God have a spiritual conversation with satan. Jesus in Matthew 4, spoke with satan. Why didn't Jesus say to satan you are shunned. I am not talking to you. By watchtower rules both Jehovah and Jesus, should be disfellowship and shunned. And no one should be allowed to talk to either of them until they repent. What a bad example they set for faithful JW, they should be ashamed of themselves.

[@WJazzxx]

la décision du tribunal de Gand belgium en appel est très attendue par les observateurs

[@vintage6346]

WJazzxx says,"hours ago the decision of the court of Ghent belgium on appeal is eagerly awaited by observers".

[@catmeow333]

I thought Job’s sons and daughters celebrated “each their special day” believed to be their birthdays.

[@LaneAlmeida-b7z]

Sou do Brasil, como faço para receber a tradução do vídeo?

[@BeroeanPickets]

beroeans.net/pt/2021/06/04/jehovahs-witnesses-violate-the-u-s-constitution-by-their-shunning-practices/

[@kaitlynrae4728]

Birthdays are the Anniversary of the Day a Mother gave birth to her child. That is Precious gift in GODs eyes and so should be in ours. Does this mean we Give undo attention to the Birthday child? they did nothing but get pushed out by the mother's womb. But for the Mother, it's the day she Praises GOD for the child given to her. That Anniversary should always be precious and it should be a conscience matter with NO punishments! God gives us free will and Man tries to take that away. shame on them. If I could do life over again, I would have shared that day with my kids better.

[@whats_the_truth]

Reasoning with a JW is like trying to convince a fly to stop eating shit.

[@edwardjjanzen23]

you make a good argument but the precedent it would set would be a bridge too far. Jehovah's witnesses are not alone when it comes to 'shunning'. other faith systems like the 'amish' do the same. the question then becomes .... 'what would the state not be willing to do, should they involve themselves in such a matter?' yes, Jehovah's witnesses, just like every other religion, have the right to decide the conditions of membership; but the problem i see here is twofold ... the lack of transparency when it comes to membership; and the willful ignorance of those who do not do their 'due diligence'. the public needs to know far more than what the religion of Jehovah's witnesses wants to reveal. the public needs to know that in the last 20 years more than 1,400,000 dedicated and baptized members of this faith system were disfellowshipped. the detroit free press reporting 70,000 a year, a figure confirmed by watchtower itself. the membership of Jehovah's witnesses was approx 5,800,000 in the year 2000. i have the right figure but i'm too lazy to look it up. this means that, allowing for some disfellowshipments in the 20 year period, more than 1,000,000 who were members of this religion in the year 2000, were disfellowshipped in the following 20 year period; one out of every 6. this means that hundreds of thousands of citizens have been divorced from their loved ones, who have been 'shunned' by their families and this religion in the past 20 years. this kind of familial damage is heartrending and alarming. the cost to governments in dealing with those abandoned by faith systems might be billions each and every year, in housing, medical, social benefits, etc. governments expect faith systems to take care of their own, not toss members out into the street. jesus himself walked with many during his ministry, and there is not one whom he asked not to follow him; even judas, whom christ knew would betray him, was allowed to accompany him and his disciples. there is no indication in history or in the scriptures of mass excommunications in the first century congregations. the state expects churches to produce good citizens, not make bad ones. it should be remembered that each and every one of the 1,400,000 disfellowshipped since the year 2000, became unworthy and cast off for reasons they acquired WHILE they were Jehovah's witnesses WHILE they were part of the religion. therefore the problem is in the religion itself, and not in those cast off. the elders and leadership have failed these ones miserably. the damage to families has been enormous, and the cost to taxpayers unmeasurable. my question to the public .... 'would you join a religion where in the next 20 years you would have a 1 in 6 chance of being thrown out of the church; for reasons you acquired WHILE you were part of the church?' this is the kind of thing the public is not told... until it is too late. 'would you join a religion where in the next 20 years you would have a 1 in 6 chance of losing all your family and friends? possibly for a lifetime? where your children will not speak with you, where a grandmother on her deathbed would be denied her family there by her side?' this is the area where the state needs to get involved; where the destruction of families and the cost of helping the castaways is draining the public trust. some of these disfellowshipped and shunned get into drugs, are homeless .... why should the state pick up the tab for ANY church system that tosses their members to the street? the social cost in benefits and treatment long term for many of these, times the costs of damaged families, relationships, even suicides, could easily top 20 billion in any 20 year period. why should the state have to pay for members of a church system who got into trouble AFTER they became members? the public needs to know this information. the question is ... 'who is going to tell them?'

[@vasiliosagio3127]

The way I read scripture is that the org is not in the new covenant with Christ , they shun Christ by not partaking of his blood and body and , it is very hard to persuade any witness that they are shunning Christ but that’s because the org has taken the position of Christ .

[@freethinker2964]

If the narrow minded Jw said that Jesus was referring to 3 people They are actually 3 people dealing with the sinner before the matter is brought before the congregation

[@tucsonan]

Here’s an idea: if you don’t wanna go to trial, don’t show up. Don’t meet with the elders. You don’t have to. They hold no real power over you and can’t force you to meet with them. Don’t give them power over you and they will have none.

[@tucsonan]

@@BeroeanPickets I genuinely apologize if my comment sounds flippant. I also apologize if I commented in the wrong spot. I've been out for nearly 25 years. I was a ministerial servant when I left, and I was raised as a JW by a prominent elder who was the presiding overseer of our congregation my entire life. I have experienced shunning from my family and friends after leaving, and I have known the terrible pain of it. Though I have built a new life and have a wonderful social circle, the experience has still left scars. It pains me that anyone gives them this power. That was the motive for my comment. If you don't want to be judged by them, don't let them judge you. "Get out of her, my people." Resist. Do not obey. Have the courage to leave!

[@BeroeanPickets]

@@tucsonan I agree with you on this. If everyone who wanted to leave just handed in a letter of resignation, the groundswell might be all that is needed to give those on the fence the courage to act.

[@tucsonan]

@@BeroeanPickets this is where the work you’re doing is clearly so important, and I don’t mean to detract from that by pointing out legal minutiae. Much love to you!

[@vintage6346]

@@tucsonan, The legal arguments against Watchtower seem to be getting better and the legal points aganst them are becoming more refined. Also, keep in mind that Watchtower has had its hand-picked and specially trained lawyers and paralegals for many decades. Many work for Watchtower for free or at a reduced rate. And now, lawyers from "outside" of Watchtower are having to study Watchtower's teachings and legal strategies in order to challenge them on points of law. These non-Watchtower lawyers are havng to "get up to speed". For example, "Zalkin" of the Zalkin law firm has studied Watchower's teachings and legal strategies for about ten years, and he is only now "beginning" to make a profit. Those Watchtwer lawyers are a slippery bunch!

[@ruthlittrell9092]

What is your opinion on the vaccinations? Are you doing a video about that?

[@BeroeansES]

Given that COVID fills about 3% of the time and even if you survive, you can give it to another who may not survive, I see little downside to getting vaccinated by comparison with the upside.

[@robinbean4023]

You look well, good video

[@robertshaw7692]

As a retired lawyer, I think you're making a large stretch, they are protected by the First Amendment, but the thing I like about your site is that you have a site name and others need a site name that protects them. For example, you can get a city License for a business very cheap and name yourself the Apostate Church of Jehovah's Witnesses, now you have freedom of religion just as Martin Luther did as he challenged the Catholic Church and we all know how sue-happy Jehovah's witnesses are, so always have a Constitutional Practice lawyer on your team. More than anything else do not use Jehovah's Witnesses actual site ( mainly videos) in your criticism of them, copyright law is very complex, but for example, Lloyd Evans knows the law very well, he seems to do it very well, but most people don't so Jehovah's Witnesses love to bully people and punish people so be careful.

[@vintage6346]

Thank you for your kind advice to Eric. Eric has two paralegals on his team, but not because he planned it that way. :)

[@leydenfisher7807]

You just said 2 codes of law cannot be allowed in the USA.... How then did The United States 🇺🇸 House of Representatives and The Congress just approved a Sharia Law Judge for the Supreme Court earlier in 2021 ???

[@BeroeanPickets]

Please provide details and references

[@FrankMerton]

Personally I'm of no religion, but I have to say I am bothered by the interference of law with religious practice, both against Catholics and JWs. It is the responsibility of the police and courts to enforce laws, such as those protecting children, while the job of the church may be to encourage lawful behavior, it is not their job to enforce it, and each religion or church has to make its own decisions on what to do and what not to do, depending, I suppose, based on the details of their beliefs. If a church wants to exercise mercy when a member or priest sins, that is their business, and they should not have any obligation to inform, let alone work with, law enforcement, and compelling them to do so or granting huge awards, largely enriching attorneys, when they don't, is as I see it an offense against the very idea of separation of church and state.

[@jaimeamill3484]

Dosn't matter what laws r written, being in a constitution or any organization. When reson a of truth is denied or where one is prohibited to express the right of thought all resonable rights r violated. I highly acknowledge laws and rights cannot in some cases b more benitfit for first party then for the second party. Ex. Parents child pension laws. Statement by Jaime Amill Betances

[@w.derooij475]

Well Watchtower, this works both ways, doesn’t it? Awake July 2009, The Bible’s Viewpoint: Is It Wrong to Change Your Religion? When Avtar began studying the Bible, her Sikh family was upset. “In my homeland,” she says, “changing your religion cuts you off from the community. Even our names have religious meaning. To change your religion is viewed as rejecting your identity and disrespecting your family.” AVTAR eventually became one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Was she wrong to change her religion? Perhaps you identify with her family. You may feel that your religion is inextricably linked with family history and culture and should not be changed. Honoring one’s family is important. The Bible says: “Listen to your father who caused your birth.” (Proverbs 23:22) But it is more important to seek to know the truth about our Creator and his purposes. (Isaiah 55:6) Is such a search possible? If so, how important is this search to you? Searching for Religious Truth The world’s religions teach conflicting ideas. Logically, those teachings cannot all be true. As a result, there must be many people who, as the Bible says, “have a zeal for God; but not according to accurate knowledge.” (Romans 10:2) Yet, as recorded at 1 Timothy 2:4, the apostle Paul says that it is God’s will that “all sorts of men . . . come to an accurate knowledge of truth.” How can such accurate knowledge be found? Consider reasons for examining the Bible. Paul, who was an inspired Bible writer, stated: “All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching.” (2 Timothy 3:16) As part of your search for truth, examine the evidence that the Bible’s claim is true. Investigate for yourself its unparalleled wisdom, historical accuracy, and fulfilled prophecy. Instead of presenting all religions as equal approaches to God, the Bible tells its readers not to believe everything they hear but to “test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God.” (1 John 4:1) For example, any teaching that truly originates with God must be in harmony with his personality, including his dominant quality of love. -1 John 4:8. The Bible assures us that God wants us to “really find him.” (Acts 17:26, 27) Since our Creator wants us to search for truth, it cannot be wrong to act on the evidence that we find -even if this means changing our religion. But what about the problems that this may bring? ' Balancing Family Loyalty When people change their beliefs, they may decide that they will no longer share in certain religious rituals or holidays. Understandably, this can result in strong feelings within the family. Jesus acknowledged this. He told his followers: “I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a young wife against her mother-in-law.” (Matthew 10:35) Did Jesus mean that Bible teachings were designed to be an unavoidable cause of contention? No. He simply foresaw what could happen when family members react negatively to one who takes a firm stand for beliefs different from theirs. Should family conflict be avoided at all costs? The Bible teaches that children should be obedient to parents and that wives should be in subjection to their husbands. (Ephesians 5:22; 6:1) However, it instructs those who love God to “obey God as ruler rather than men.” (Acts 5:29) Thus, at times, loyalty to God may result in your making a decision that is unpopular with some family members. Although the Bible makes a clear distinction between true and false teachings, God allows each person the freedom to choose how he or she will respond. (Deuteronomy 30:19, 20) No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family. Does study of the Bible lead to family breakup? No. In fact, the Bible encourages a husband and wife who practice different religions to remain together as a family. -1 Corinthians 7:12, 13.

[@BeroeanPickets]

For the organization, it is a door that only swings one way

[@w.derooij475]

That makes them hypocritical, but whats new about that?

[@vintage6346]

@@w.derooij475, To my knowledge, no exjw says that Watchtower's hypocrisy is something "new".

[@w.derooij475]

@vintage hello brother I said: Whats new, or in others words they are LIARS. I know what they are, they are evil. Listening to their master. Jehovah God is my God and Father, and his son Jesus is my King.

[@vintage6346]

@@w.derooij475, Most exjw's say that Watchtower lies.

[@fontybits]

The JW doigma of repentant disfellowshipped ones having to prove their sincerity during months of continued shunning, is BIBLE BASED! Didn't JESUS prove this by showing how the Prodigal Son had to suffer months of shunning after HIS repentance :(

[@UsefulHerbsDrOlowofoyekuPhD]

Sorry, but from my own Bible the prodigal son was not shunned, in fact before he could apologize to his father, his father fell on him, embraced and kissed him and forgave him immediately he caught sight of him. In what way was he shunned then?

[@zip6404]

what about john 8:1-11,NO WONDER wtbts ELIMINATE THESE VERSES FROM THERE bible.the jws are in big trouble if they keep knowingly practicing this form of WORSHIP .Deuteronomy 4:2,Deuteronomy 12:32, Revelation 22:18-19

[@nojw7940]

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[@krzysztofglinka]

What is true in Your opinion: people leave the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses psychical hurt and spiritual sick because of the human imperfection of individuals (elders, overseers) or the entire system, that this organization has created by their leaders is toxic and harmful?

[@BeroeanPickets]

People can excuse mistakes made because of imperfection, but hypocrisy, willful lying, and the spreading of false teachings results in a cutting off of God's spirit.

[@rodneymendenhall3775]

I like what you have to say and it gets down to the truth I know your health was giving you problems and I'm glad to see that you are doing better after your surgery, but you do need someone that can carry on your message God's message and his son's message someone that you trust and you can share with the spotlight of delivering these truths so that this can carry on of course you often say you want no organization, only based Bible truths and I totally agree but you do have to consider you're not a spring chicken anymore, and you need a helper 😊

[@BeroeanPickets]

Actually, I have a number of helpers. But you're quite right. We don't focus on any individual. Fortunately, it's all in the Lord's hands, not mine.

[@rodneymendenhall3775]

@@BeroeanPickets I really appreciate all the hard work plus the workers behind you my mother was a devout Jehovah witness even when she was disfellowshipped and shunned she had many many mental issues but in those days in the 1970s they thought they were all possessed by some demon, over the years they changed in some helping with psychiatrists but the damage was done, all the love bombing meant nothing to a single woman with a child that suffered from mental damage things would have been so much different I truly believed if they stepped up as a god-fearing people but they were sagitties and Pharisee followers and that made life difficult for my mother who only internalized more and more of her own self-doubt with mental illness battle and it took me through many many back Ally's, they're shunning policies and politics was a very devastating problem in the late '70s in my opinion thay destroyed many families and affected thousands of mental suffering people, I never trusted them no matter how faithful my mother was even in her disfellowship I love my mother very much she passed away I miss her very much she was a very kind woman and a very loving woman, I for my part never could believe in anything the Jehovah witnesses were saying although I did take a lot in for many many years but could never get baptized I did finally not into Jehovah witnesses but by faith later came my way and some Baptist baptized me in a bathtub that was a day I'll never forget that happened 3 months ago anyway I love the service that you give and the honesty of the truth I think you very much and all those behind you helping you keep up the good work 😊

[@williamjarrell3541]

JWs may violate the spirit of the US Constitution with their internal discipline, but these religious practices, though deplorable, are not against the law. One could also make a case that Roman Catholics and Southern Baptists violate the spirit of US laws because they do not ordain women and gays. But ironically, those same US laws allow them to do this. I think the same has to be said about the JWs. This doesn't mean that you or I have to like the policies of any of these groups.

[@vintage6346]

William, I think that the operative words in your post may be "internal discipline". When people leave JW's, Watchtower presures other JW's to end business relationships with that person. And though financial loss may be less painful than the emotional loss, financial loss is more easily "proven". At what point does Watchtower's discipline cease to be "internal"?

[@williamjarrell3541]

@@vintage6346 I think it ceases to be "internal" when it violates laws against assault, theft, breech of contract. If the JWs decide to excommunicate people over birthday cakes that's their business. If they send out goons to attack people or their property then it's a matter for the police and courts. Ending a business relationship, except in breech of contract, may not be proper but in a free society it is permissible. Gay people may choose not to eat at Chick-fil-a because they disagree with the CEO's views. I don't see how the JWs are different. In free society people can base their economic decisions on whether they agree with the views of a business owner. If anything the US Constitution upholds this freedom of association.

[@vintage6346]

@@williamjarrell3541, Not all wrongs are legally actionable. I've seen a powerful, vindictive elder conspire to financially ruin a member who displeased him. It will never be addressed legally. If Spain has laws that address these current abuse issues, then I hope the new association's attorneys will skillfully argue those laws. Whatever the outcome, Watchtower has shown its hypocrisy. It is a wolf in sheep's clothing.