Jehovah's Witnesses vs Christianity

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[@williamfaix5812]

excellent

[@wayneburton8168]

Another example of Christians arguing with christians. Jehovah's witnesses absolutely believe their interpretation of the bible is the correct one , and every other one is tainted by Satan. It's only one book people, and you guys can't come close to figuring out what it means. No wonder people are finally walking away from what is so obviously iron age superstitions and scribblings. Welcome to the world of reality It's just better.

[@fidelloza8071]

1) Who resurrected Jesus according to the apostles? 2) And who resurrected Jesus according to most Christians now a days? Acts 5:30 The God of our forefathers raised up Jesus, Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of our forefathers, has glorified his Son and Servant, Jesus Exodus 6:3 King James Bible And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. And who worship the one who resurrected Jesus and the one Jesus worship now a days? And who dont? John 4:22 Jesus said: You worship what you do not know; WE WORSHIP what we know,

[@darthbigred22]

Buddy if you're going to be a Christian channel can you use our time abbreviations not the one the atheists and Jews use. BC/AD not BCE/CE Thanks Also the ability to talk almost without breathing for as long as you do is truly impressive

[@wayneburton8168]

@@darthbigred22 You're way too good to use a designation that's used by Jews , god forbid Muslims might sully your website. Lol. The divisive nature of religion is obvious in you're comment.

[@kirjian]

"Independent thinking is a design of the devil" *WHAT?!*

[@cheez-itman2784]

Honestly. This made my jaw drop. The devil designed no aspect of man, only god himself that allowed us free will. The way in which we can prove our loyalty to god despite having a choice and many temptations

[@thursoberwick1948]

The "New York Times" was complaining about "critical thinking" being a bad thing and hindering the response to the current crisis... no different to this.

[@rehab5355]

Sounds like a "government' credo....Stopped at 7:50

[@777Tralfaz777]

To try to think independent of God, isn't in imitation of the Devil? If JW are the true religion, shouldn't you be in line with your brothers?

[@KingPoseidon02]

@@777Tralfaz777 yet the Jehovah Witnesses are a cult and not a religion. You have no covenants. No liberty and you reject the Gospel Law.

[@alleywilliams319]

Basically “listen to everything we say, even if we’re inconsistent. No thinking allowed.” Any religion that discourages reading the Bible on you’re own, or with a small group is absolutely trying to put distance between you and God.

[@maxonmendel5757]

@Yang Wen Li Catholics dont worship Mary or the saints

[@Yourmom-ej6kf]

@Yang Wen Li as a Catholic idk how many times I’ve had to explain veneration doesn’t equal worship and the Trinity is an essential Christian Belief .The Church Christ established has held throughout history that God exists as God the Father God the Son And The Holy Spirit. Next time you open your Bible remember what Church canonized it,even if you don’t have all 73 books they wouldn’t have been canonized without Christ’s one true and Apostolic Church

[@Yourmom-ej6kf]

@@truthbetold8610 paganism was destroyed by Catholics lol . Only heretics reject the trinity

[@nocive7381]

JW is giveing tones of materials and we are happy to give awnsers just ask an elder

[@Yourmom-ej6kf]

@@nocive7381 JW are heretics

[@borisvandruff7532]

The fact that he can say all of this with a straight face and without any laughter whatsoever is STAGGERING.

[@chegadesuade]

Atheists say the same about us Christians. If you're a Christian then you're misrepresenting us by scoffing at others. Be humble. Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners, *nor sits in the seat of scoffers.* Psalm 1:1

[@halfsheephalfjesus7357]

@@chegadesuade pffft. JEHOVA'S witnesses are an abomination to the Lord. Anyone who speaks out against them will not lose their reward

[@halfsheephalfjesus7357]

@@chegadesuade I am risen. God made me obedient to death even death on a cross. Revelation 3:20. I have authority to smash the nations to pieces like pottery. I am victorious

[@halfsheephalfjesus7357]

@@chegadesuade I told you but you do not believe. God made me obedient to death, even death on a cross and raised me from the dead physically. I have the full testimony of Jesus Christ and I am the true prodigal son of God which comes with the best robes and the signet ring. I am risen and I am the son of God. I now quote to you Psalm 2

[@halfsheephalfjesus7357]

@@chegadesuade You do not know the Lord.

[@michaels4255]

"Don't read that Bible! It might trick you into believing the same doctrines believed by all the other Christians in the world."

[@jamesritter5078]

@@tongakhan230 - Michael is totally accurate and correct in what he says. JWs are not encouraged to read the Bible by itself. Here are two quotes by the JW masters that proves this: From the October 1, 1967 Watchtower: “Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization, not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible. For this reason the Bible CANNOT be properly understood without Jehovah’s visible organization in mind.” From JR: In other words, it's not what the Bible says that has the final say in a person's life; it's what the JW masters SAY the Bible says that has the final say. This means that reading the Bible apart from the (GUFFAW!) “study materials” in the publications is a MUST. You can't read the Bible by itself - You HAVE to have the dictations of the JW masters. Why? Because THEY say so. Nothing more to it than that. And here's the quote that actually does say that JW are discouraged from reading the Bible on its own: "From time to time, there have arisen from among the ranks of Jehovah's people those, who, like the original Satan, have adopted an independent, faultfinding attitude...They say that it is sufficient to read the Bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home. But, strangely, through such 'Bible reading,' they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by Christendom's clergy were teaching 100 years ago..." The Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1981. From JR: Did you get that? If you read the Bible by itself, you will believe in the Deity of Christ (actually, you'll become a Trinitarian) because that is exactly what the Watchtower is referring to here when it says "apostate doctrines." In other words, if you read the Bible alone by itself you will not arrive at Watchtower doctrines. This is an amazing admission by the Watchtower organization. It is clear, Jehovah's Witnesses do not get their teachings from the Bible, but from the JW masters in the Watchtower literature.

[@Thedisciplemike]

@@jamesritter5078 well said

[@faithalone2171]

​@@jamesritter5078 *This is JW Church claiming to be the final authority. Very much like R Catholic Church claiming to be the final authority. That's why both are cts.* you said From the October 1, 1967 Watchtower: “Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization, not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible. For this reason the Bible CANNOT be properly understood without Jehovah’s visible organization in mind.”

[@jamesritter5078]

@@faithalone2171 Nope. That's what the JW masters have said - about themselves. By the way - It might be helpful if you posted on a discussion more recent - This one is 9 months old.

[@private2371]

Straight demonic stuff here. Super wild.

[@jakeave]

This is like a year of research condensed into 20 minutes.

[@mtoohill]

No doubt, hats off to Ready to Harvest guy, he does his research. Though I haven't seen a video yet of the apostolic Churches. Not the apostolics, but the Roman Cathoics and orthodox faiths that trace their Churches back to the apostles.

[@SmallAlexMoney]

@@mtoohill as well as the Armenian Apostolic church which are sort of orthodox but sort of not.

[@mtoohill]

@@jacobp4330 My leaders?

[@deus_vult8111]

Anyone who has the faith of Jesus can trace themselves to the Apostles

[@tama3442]

Have faith in JESUS CHRIST as LORD and SAVIOR for HE SAVES from the wrath of GOD which is spending an eternity in hell❗️ *What is the Gospel?* The true gospel is the good news that God saves sinners. Man is by nature sinful and separated from God with no hope of remedying that situation. But God, by His power, provided the means of man’s redemption in the death, burial, and resurrection of the Savior, Jesus Christ. Ephesians 2:8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of GOD, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Romans 10:9 9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. JESUS CHRIST can come anytime! Just Believe ❤️ Love you and GOD BLESS

[@TheSergio1021]

5:21 killed me. Translation: "Don't read the Bible alone, it will make you realize you don't need us" hahaha!

[@alanhilder1883]

The one thing that turned people Atheist was reading the bible.

[@TheSergio1021]

@@alanhilder1883 Haha no, the one thing that turns people atheist is pride, and worship of themselves over God.

[@alanhilder1883]

@@TheSergio1021 I will call your BS, Find some real proof before coming back.

[@zombieseatflesh7]

@@TheSergio1021 Isn't choosing to worship yourself over god admitting that you believe in god in the first place?

[@TheSergio1021]

@@zombieseatflesh7 no. Why would you think that? Worshipping yourself is not the same as worshipping God. It's a big point in Christian doctrine to deny yourself and follow Jesus (Matthew 16:24-26)

[@psalm7171]

I was raised in this heretical mess. The "faithful and discreet slave" was about the creepiest name they could devise for their anointed.

[@chegadesuade]

They didn't devise the idea of the "faithful and discreet slave", our Lord did. Jesus admonished us to be a faithful servant as recorded in all four gospels. Be careful how you handle the Word. Yet it shall not be so among you; but whoever desires to become great among you, let him be your servant. And whoever desires to be first among you, let him be your slave. Matthew 20:26 And He sat down, called the twelve, and said to them, “If anyone desires to be first, he shall be last of all and servant of all.” Mark 9:35 And the Lord said, “Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his master will make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of food in due season? Luke 12:42 If anyone serves Me, let him follow Me; and where I am, there My servant will be also. If anyone serves Me, him My Father will honor. John 12:26

[@marvalice3455]

@@chegadesuade they absolutely did come up with it. No other translation uses "slave" in that verse. Additionally, nobody else thinks that verse is about a providing class.

[@chegadesuade]

@@marvalice3455 Servant and slave are used interchangeably throughout the Bible, that's why masters were admonished not to mistreat their "slaves" and to free them after a certain period of time. You're splitting hairs and deviating from the Bible if you're saying there's a substantial difference between servant and slave. Here's another example: But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:22-23

[@marvalice3455]

@@chegadesuade im really, really not. Words are different for a reason.

[@chegadesuade]

@@marvalice3455 Well I've laid out plenty of scriptural evidence, and it's a simple fact that the Hebrew OT and Greek NT have a number of different literal translations, that's why most Christians like me use a study Bible and/or a Bible concordance. You can insist on anything but if you don't want to study it seriously then you're probably wrong.

[@rekindlelifefoundation]

Creating contents and producing even the shortest video clip could be an arduous task, yet you've created an entire theology course in such a short video!!! God bless you greatly. You're helping a lot of us in farther parts of the earth. More strength to you 👍

[@germangirl16]

I was unwillingly raised as one. I don’t think you missed anything, good job!

[@Calatriste54]

May true LORD bless and guide you. There was a purpose. Thrive in Christ..

[@pattynellis7347]

Me to im now Baptist

[@GullahGeecheeFarmer]

I ran away and preferred foster care over my crazy ass jw parents.

[@pattynellis7347]

@@GullahGeecheeFarmer i beleive it ..no bdays xmass ..no childhood fun at all i resented my parents for yrs over my wasted childhood but forgave them when i got born again ..i let it go

[@chegadesuade]

We're all unwillingly born and unwillingly raised. At least you had Godly parents. Honor thy mother and thy father, remember?

[@gypsynasada7658]

I remember memorizing the entire KJV Bible and the JW version in a last ditch effort to get my mother to recognize the false prophet. Especially the verses that the Watchtower omitted. She refused to see it. She has past now, and learned the real truth.

[@truthbetold8610]

Would you like to see a list of the Scriptures that were INSERTED in the KJV? In the late 19th century, scholars B. F. Westcott and F.J.A. Hort compared existing Bible manuscripts and fragments as they prepared the Greek master text that they felt most closely reflected the original writings. In the mid-20th century, the New World Bible Translation Committee used that master text as the basis for its translation. Other early papyri, thought to date back to the second and third centuries C.E., were also used. Since then, more papyri have become available. Based on those master texts, it is evident that SOME VERSES OF THE CHRISTIAN GREEK SCRIPTURES FOUND IN OLDER TRANSLATIONS, such as THE KING JAMES VERSION, were actually ADDITIONS MADE BY LATER COPYISTS AND WERE NEVER PART OF THE INSPIRED SCRIPTURES. All these verses were added to the KJV: The verses are Matthew 17:21; 18:11; 23:14; Mark 7:16; 9:44, 46; 11:26; 15:28; Luke 17:36; 23:17; John 5:4; Acts 8:37; 15:34; 24:7; 28:29; and Romans 16:24. The only Scriptures removed by JW's are the ones added by the KJV that didn't belong there in the first place! Learn some facts before posting ignorance!

[@twiggledy5547]

@@truthbetold8610 you need help

[@truthbetold8610]

@@twiggledy5547 What a dumb comment, if you can't handle the truth because all you know is Christendom's lies, then I feel sorry for you. Everything I wrote is fact, you're just not familiar with real facts.

[@Andthethingwhich]

​@@truthbetold8610 No, you are wrong.

[@joshbeasley9089]

@Fuch Fuch fox A simple Google search says you're wrong. Matthew 18:11 for example does not appear in any manuscript before the 5th century.

[@jonahkaz]

My grandpa was raised Jehovah but eventually became Catholic. The blood transfusions rule is definitely right because many of his siblings who remained Jehovah ended up dying from preventable means because they refused blood transfusions...

[@rehab5355]

Guess they won't get taxed either

[@truthbetold8610]

@@rehab5355 News flash: The JW's do not collect donations at the meetings, no collection plates are ever passed, all contributions are strictly voluntary and there is always enough to cover expenses. For years the JW's paid taxes and if required could do so again without a problem. Christendom, however, with their many gaudy churches would go bankrupt.

[@AragornRespecter]

I’m glad he was able to find religion elsewhere (even better that it was the Catholic Church) . Too often former JWs are turned off from the idea of religion completely (somewhat understandably) because of this cult. Please pray for those who have escaped from this cult, that they may find faith in God and happiness elsewhere.

[@jackdaw6359]

@@AragornRespecter my fear exactly. Being in such an authoritative cult may make people rebel against all spiritual authority.

[@inTruthbyGrace]

so he just went STRAIGHT for drinking that blood (Catholics practice "transubstantiation" so they practice a ritual whereby they MUST believe they are literally drinking the actual blood of Jesus)...he jumped out of the frying pan into the fire... too bad he completely by-passed Jesus' Word altogether.

[@Hun_Uinaq]

Very well researched. Eerily well researched. Brings back memories. Getting out was the most terrifying and liberating thing I have ever done in my life. Such a surreal feeling to hear those old beliefs. Surreal to know that I once held them. Kind of embarrassing really. So full of holes! Could drive a truck through so many of those holes. But, when you’re told not to question and you’re discouraged from thinking for yourself, you just tell yourself that someday, you will understand and it will all make sense. It never does. It never will. But, that’s what you tell yourself because that’s what you’re told to do. When you were born into it, you just do it. Anything else feels alien and scary. Your family and anyone you have ever cared about or loved in your life are all held hostage to you and held over your head compelling you to believe this way or at least pretend and profess to believe this way.

[@jamesritter5078]

I'm glad to read that you escaped. Your story is similar - VERY similar - to that of MANY former JWs.

[@Hun_Uinaq]

@@jamesritter5078 there have been times when I have felt more kinship with fellow ex JW’s than ever I did with anyone who called me brother while I was in. Those who used to belong to this organization will understand just how strange that is. Even if I have never met that person, I know that we share a traumatic experience from which we are thankful to have escaped which makes me feel that I have a bond with them..

[@jamesritter5078]

@@Hun_Uinaq I'd wager that people in AA and other 12 step groups may feel similar - "We escaped from a common peril."

[@Hun_Uinaq]

@@jamesritter5078 You may very well be right.

[@16tonw8]

I love the contrast between "the soul and body aren't separate" and "everyone in heaven will have non-physical spirit bodies"

[@J.Schway]

I am truly impressed by how he can give all that info with little to no break in between all his words.

[@soonerferg]

Oh there are definitely cuts/edits

[@truthbetold8610]

He's an accomplished liar.

[@GermanShepherd1983]

@@truthbetold8610 Pastor Joshua is a man of God, and certainly not a liar.

[@truthbetold8610]

@@GermanShepherd1983 How about "Master of Deception"? Or maybe "Tool of Satan"? Anyone who preaches incorrect doctrines and has no shred of truth in it can be called a "Liar" and he fits the description. If you knew the Scriptures accurately you would agree

[@GermanShepherd1983]

@@truthbetold8610 I'm a Baptist just like Joshua. We know the scriptures and I certainly know about the JW's who harassed me in my own yard trying to "witness" to me.

[@gregoryc.wrighted.d.7818]

Any "religion" that tells you that you can't think is a cult. No independent thinking? Cult!! How does he get through these videos without laughing? He has to stop and restart many times. LOL...Some (well, most) of these teachings are just plain laughable.

[@Calatriste54]

Dog-like fearlessness and tenacity.. man with a mission.. The Walter Martin of 2021.. Bravo, baby!

[@karenstiltner1386]

He gets through it without laughing because it's so sad how many misguided people there are.

[@morielrorschach8090]

Greg, as a fan of independent thinking, have you critically considered the -possibility- that this person may have a biased motive to attempt to misrepresent the perspective of people who challenge his beliefs? We're the ones telling people "Read the bible for yourself. Challenge the 'unquestionable, yet ineffable divine mysteries.' Question everything!" If you'd look up the article that quote comes from and read it in context, you may note that the intent is NOT to diminish critical thinking. But that truth is not subjective. We should not be independent in the context of "me having my truth and you having your truth." Rather, we should reason together from the scriptures so that both of us can find THE truth. Not just what's popular or orthodox or comfortable. I'd encourage you to think for yourself, and question people who represent views they don't hold as 100% cartoonishly ridiculous. ... as much as you would be skeptical of people representing their own views as 100% inerrant. Either is a rather clear indication of bias.

[@aycc-nbh7289]

So are Catholicism and Orthodoxy cults as well?

[@jimd9339]

@@aycc-nbh7289 Yes. Catholicism is a cult... Not sure about your meaning of "Orthodoxy" though... But if it is Catholic it is a cult.

[@dewilew2137]

I love that you call their beliefs “unique”, rather than “utterly absurd”.

[@omarmunoz5787]

All christian beliefs are utterly absurd

[@Garry_Combine]

He's polite, a rare thing these days

[@bubbag8895]

Tell me which one you consider the most absurd

[@withlessAsbestos]

@@bubbag8895JW is literally a cult that intentionally mistranslates everything and shuns people for questioning them. I can walk into my Pastor’s office and say whatever I want and he won’t create a kangaroo court to ban my family and friends from talking to me.

[@batcaveish]

Yep they are all absurd

[@frennysala7039]

Hello there, So in short, Jehovah's Witnesses are Modern Arians getting weirder and weirder on their already weird (heretical) doctrines as many years have gone by (and still counting). Thank you and God bless you.

[@ob2249]

I find its much easier to put it all under the one heading... for convenience, nonsense.

[@silvio1894]

@@briancooper2833 Nah, just Arianism.

[@tiffsaver]

And I thought Scientologists were crazy...

[@timfirst3536]

Not mutually exclusive, good sir!

[@johnlux6635]

They are.

[@chegadesuade]

They are. They charge money for a religion founded by a drunk mediocre pulp science fiction writer, it's not more than the record of a successful con. JWs preach the gospel door to door. I don't agree with everything they believe, but given the choice I'd take JWs.

[@NathanTAK]

Nah, scientologists are crazier than Jehovah's Witnesses

[@tiffsaver]

@@NathanTAK I used to be a Scientologist in my youth, and you can rest assured, NO group is loonier than the Jehovah's Witnesses. Trust me.

[@lorenzoc.b.9809]

It is not even a religion of its own, it's an editorial business.

[@chegadesuade]

It never claimed to be a religion of its own, it claims to be a Christian denomination. I'm honestly surprised how ignorant the audience is on this channel.

[@lorenzoc.b.9809]

@@chegadesuade You missed my point, I meant they are more like a cult. And if you ask them, JWs will tell you they are not a Christian branch, and that they are civilly registered as an indepent religion (idk how it is in your contry, but in mine they always answer this matter with those same words).

[@chegadesuade]

@@lorenzoc.b.9809 I'm sure there's some legal reason why they register as an independent religion in some countries. By definition Jehova's Witnesses is a nontrinitarian Christian denomination.

[@joaopedrodiogenes6083]

@@chegadesuade That's a bit contradictory don't you think? The whole "Christian AND nontrinitarian", and the whole "Jesus is not God but an angel of God" thing. Lol

[@pattynellis7347]

@@chegadesuade not Christianity at all ..it denies every doctrine that Christianity teaches...they can call themselves anything they want it don't make it true...," the truth " is a big lie

[@JordanJohnson-dt2zo]

Number 44 is me. I was raised and baptized a Jehovah’s Witness from a child. I read the Bible so much hoping to find common ground with people I came across in the door to door ministry that I ended up becoming a Baptist. It’s funny because it is from the Baptists they came from and then so arrogantly rejected. They speak of not reading scripture alone and in small groups for fear one will stray from the organization and that is exactly what Russell and his companions did in the early years and now look at their central beliefs. Honestly, if they weren’t so dogmatic about “new light” and their own interpretation of scripture and high views of themselves, they wouldn’t be a horrible church to join. I’m grateful for the experience because the faith I once wore as a badge of honor taught me a lesson I’ll never forget: to read Gods word for myself and never blindly accept man’s interpretation as my own. So I thank them at least for that.

[@Hun_Uinaq]

Not the Baptists. Seventh-day Adventists. A whole bunch of the very early ones back in the 1800s started out as Adventists. I know because I read the kingdom proclaimers book that came out in 1990 or so. Think that was my favorite book they ever published because I am something of a history buff and I think chronicles their development in the 19 century all the way through to the writing of the book. I grew up in this thing. Glad you made it out. I hope it wasn’t too far into life. I got out first in my early 20s and then got sucked back in by an older relative. I made it out again in my 40s, and this time, I think it will stick.

[@JordanJohnson-dt2zo]

@@Hun_Uinaq you are correct it was the SDA’s. I still have that book and a few other books as keepsakes. I left when I was 25 and will not be returning as I am now 32 and a lay minister and happy with where I am. At the time it was a hard decision to make as my whole family is still in the persuasion but “all things work together for the good of them who love the Lord and are called according to His purpose,” So I hope you do find a Bible believing church that will support your spiritual growth so you do not have to return.

[@gowdsake7103]

So your myth is better than their myth, if it wasnt so sad it would be funny

[@JordanJohnson-dt2zo]

@@gowdsake7103you really have no stake in this discussion. But to answer your question, it’s not about one “myth” being better than another. All have their flaws. Just as you have made a choice not to believe, I have made a choice to do so and within my choice is the freedom to reason and think, which I exercise as do you. I will agree and disagree. To differ is to be human. To be human is to change one’s mind. So no I don’t believe I’m any better than a Jehovah’s Witness. It truly takes wisdom and experience to understand that.

[@gowdsake7103]

@@JordanJohnson-dt2zo Fundamentally your wrong in that I did not make a choice not to believe. To believe is to accept without evidence, without evidence I will not accept a conclusion. Thus I did not choose to accept an ideology without foundation it had to be rejected just the same as santa claus or goblins

[@JopingusBloggStudios]

Fantastic summary! Clear facts straight from JW:s own sources with references. I wish I had this video back in high school when we visited the local Jehovah's Witnesses for a course. They kept trying to sound like a mainstream denomination and it was very unclear if there were any differences at all.

[@marvalice3455]

Yup. They are trained to do this.

[@leecrotty658]

Mormons do similar

[@SmallAlexMoney]

Lol your school brought you to a cult facility?!

[@marvalice3455]

@@SmallAlexMoney most schools don't know how to spot a cult. When i talked about how i was a jw to my teachers they never thought it was especially weird

[@aubgriss2009]

@lary Snw Many JW's try to keep some of their beliefs hidden and unclear until you actually join them. I have had them show up on my door and not even want to tell me what church they were from. They tried to be evasive about it even when I asked them directly.

[@wandaswavely2523]

My mother was a witness and I remember her saying that only the witnesses will be saved. I said what about the faithful people who follow the Lord and have repented of their sins. She said they won't be saved. So if you are not a witness, even though you have stopped your sin and pray and give your testimony, you will not be with the Lord, so why bother? That made me a little sad, to think that we can't be with Jesus in His Kingdom. Might as well keep on sinning and be like the world. She was so brainwashed, said they can't celebrate Christmas and birthdays, but she always had her hands out for the gifts my sister gave her. I am glad I didn't stop believing in my Lord and I am walking very close to Him. My mother died years ago, never forgave people and died a very bitter woman. If that's what it means to be a JW, than I don't want to be a hypocrite. I love God with all my heart, body, mind. I trust in Him only. Amen.

[@idahomusic]

One of the saddest and 'deadest' funerals I ever been to was a JW one. All the people there were like mannequins.

[@karenstiltner1386]

God bless you 🙏 I'm so glad you finally came to Christ after being raised in such an environment. I am from a Mormon family, which is another cult. I also love our Lord Jesus Christ and God with all my heart and soul ♥

[@bridgeeeena5798]

Amen ❤️ glad you were able to find the true God in a place of such darkness

[@jimd9339]

The Watchtower Society is a religious cult. There will be no JW's saved if they do not repent and believe the Gospel. Jesus is the ONLY way to the Father.

[@19thriller83]

You have a wrong perception of being a JW! You are still alive and you still have a chance to comeback to Jah’s organization

[@bj.bruner]

"Independent thinking is of the devil." Um, WHAT?!! 😂😂 You sure this wasn't made in the USSR or China??

[@thursoberwick1948]

Or the 'New York Times' which recently said "critical thinking" was undermining the response to the current crisis. Obviously the peasants mustn't think for themselves.

[@bartmacgregor6078]

I honestly would rather live in the USSR or China rather than live with these people let alone join their organization.

[@thursoberwick1948]

@@bartmacgregor6078 Don't worry, you'll soon have a taste of that. Kangarooland and Canada now have thousand bed "facilities", and no one can say what they want anymore. Chinese style social credit is coming in on the back of this crisis as well.

[@truthbetold8610]

@@bartmacgregor6078 The USSR dissolved in 1991, but I would gladly pay the travel expenses so you can enjoy life under Communism.

[@jaystuff5292]

Too many have misunderstood what "independent thinking" is. It does not mean independent from the WBTS, but independent from God's moral standards. It a term that simply describes any thought form that is MORALLLY INDEPENDENT from God. Thinking that sex outside marriage is okay would thus be "independent thinking", for example.

[@InvestmentJoy]

Been wanting this style of video my adult life, lol

[@tama3442]

Have faith in JESUS CHRIST as LORD and SAVIOR for HE SAVES from the wrath of GOD which is spending an eternity in hell❗️ *What is the Gospel?* The true gospel is the good news that God saves sinners. Man is by nature sinful and separated from God with no hope of remedying that situation. But God, by His power, provided the means of man’s redemption in the death, burial, and resurrection of the Savior, Jesus Christ. Ephesians 2:8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of GOD, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Romans 10:9 9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. JESUS CHRIST can come anytime! Just Believe ❤️ Love you and GOD BLESS

[@konnereyre7129]

No Offense but a lot of this like “no independent thinking” sounds like something out of 1984

[@tintinismybelgian]

It's very much akin to the judgment passed down on Luther at the Diet of Worms.

[@marvalice3455]

It is out of 1984. Independent thinking is bad. If you have a question than you are expected to accept any random answer given regardless of if it makes sense or not. For instance, if the elder reads you a scripture to "answer" a question, and you say something like "i know about that one it really doesn't actually work here" than there is a problem with you.

[@Rog5446]

So that's where Kim Jong-Un of North Korea got the idea, he got it from the JWs.

[@markweatherill]

'1984' is pretty much the watchtower playbook

[@Bipolar.Baddie]

@@Rog5446 that's ironic considering that youre suckling from the teat of state department propaganda and regurgitating it onto the internet

[@augiemusky]

Wow, this is a great summary for the person just starting a “Bible” study with witnesses, or for those who think it’s just another Christian denomination.

[@watchman8644]

@augiemusky You’re right, Jehovah’s Witnesses are not just another Christian denomination. If they were like everyone else, they would celebrate holidays with obvious Pagan origins and act like false worship is acceptable to God. If they were like all other Christian denominations they would permit fornication and lying and immorality and act as if how you live your life doesn’t matter as long as you show up to church on Sunday. They would pretend that God never said those people who practice these things will not inherit God’s kingdom. If they were like every other Christian denomination, they would go along with false doctrines like the trinity even though it is known that teaching came hundred of years after the death of Jesus and the apostles, is not Biblical, became part of “Church doctrine” by royal decree and it’s origins are based on Plato’s philosophies which were greatly influenced by Pagan and Greek gods and beliefs. If they were like every other Christian denomination, they would not follow Jesus example and direction and go out teaching people about God’s kingdom (Matthew 24:14 and Matthew 28:19-20) and the real purpose for mankind. Luke 6:22 and John 15:19 shows why the world (including all these other “Christians” who can accept each other but not JWs) would hate Jehovah’s Witnesses, because they are separate from the rest of the world. They are different. They don’t just go along with what everyone else says, but have studied the Bible to see what it actually says to learn the truth and not just go along with the false teachings the “Church” has forced on everyone for centuries. Matthew 7:13-14 shows that broad is the road to destruction, but narrow the gate to life and few will find it. Would you rather be among the widely accepted or the group who Christ selected out of the world, to be no part of the world, and who are among the few who find the narrow path that leads to life?

[@deus_vult8111]

@@watchman8644 Celebrating holidays does not equate to pagan worship.

[@deus_vult8111]

@@watchman8644 JWs permit immorality all the time. They do so when they overlook child sex abuse in their own congregations. Look up the Australian Royal Commission

[@deus_vult8111]

@@watchman8644 cite evidence that the Christian doctrine of the Trinity is rooted in paganism or Plato.

[@augiemusky]

@@watchman8644 as seen by his above post, is a typical Jehovah's Witnesses Pharisee, boasting about his self- righteousness before a Holy God. "The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed, ‘God, I thank You that I am not like the other men-swindlers, evildoers, adulterers-or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and pay tithes of all that I acquire.’ But the tax collector ... beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner!’… The tax collector, rather than the Pharisee, went home justified. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”… Luke 18 Pray that he too humbles himself, realizes he is a sinner in desperate need of a merciful savior who has paid the price for his sin. It is a GIFT, Watchman 86, NOT of your above-mentioned good works, that no man should boast.

[@gypsynasada7658]

Fortunately, I already knew Christ before my Mother decided to force the family into the JWs. I remember most of the points told here. I also remember the horrible nausea when I was pressured to repeat the lies they taught. From a family of 8, I am the only one to escape the JW hold on my family.

[@rehab5355]

Strong Mind and the Gift of the Spirit ! Yo.....

[@seiyini4866]

Wise one

[@BogusmanTheSwagman]

I'm glad you were able to escape, and I hope your family can as well.

[@gowdsake7103]

Yet your still trapped in Iron age dogma and myth

[@eyobwalid2332]

Ayyy a free one!!!

[@majafleur9646]

Brilliant job! I was a JW for 44 years, left to become an Evangelical Christian and have been brutally shunned ever since... There is virtually nothing "Christian" about them. Those of us who got out are traumatised for life.

[@777Tralfaz777]

What exactly should happen to apostates? You know, according to the Bible?

[@jamesritter5078]

@@777Tralfaz777 _He_ isn't the one who's apostate.

[@777Tralfaz777]

@@jamesritter5078 Doesn't that depend on perspective? And objectively, if he dove into believing Jesus is God, then he is an apostate to JW. (1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him. Plus, the fact JW actually follow the counsel about apostates, is another proof JW are the true congregation.

[@jamesritter5078]

@@777Tralfaz777 No, it does not depend on "perspective" - It depends on measuring what JWs believe with the standard of Scripture to see whether or not - in fact and truth - JWs beliefs are biblical. When a genuinely honest person _does_ measure JW beliefs with the standard of Scripture, JW beliefs are found to _not_ be biblical. For example - The JW belief of Christ _really_ being Michael the angel is falsehood according to Scripture. Here's why that's true: NO angel would ever make the declaration that Christ makes for Himself in John 12:45 NO angel would ever tell people to believe in it the same as they do in God. But Christ does just that in John 14:1. NO angel would ever make the declaration Christ makes for Himself in John 14:7-9. Michael would DEFINITELY NOT ever make these declarations. His name means "Who Is Like God?" Obvious answer: NO ONE. If Michael had made those declarations, he would be going against the meaning of his own name and committing blasphemy. NO angel would ever receive for itself the declaration of Thomas in John 20:28. NO angel has the same nature as God, as Paul states Christ does in Philippians 2:6. In NO angel does all the fullness of God reside, as Paul states in Colossians 2:9. Secondly - Consider the following: Some of your core and essential beliefs as a JW are that your JW masters are the only, ONLY ones who... - were appointed by God and have His approval and ALL others are false, wrong, apostate, of Satan and so on. - are the only, ONLY communicators of God's truth and ALL others are false, wrong, apostate, of Satan and so on. - are the only, ONLY ones who can interpret the Bible correctly and ALL others are false, wrong, apostate, of Satan and so on. - are the only, ONLY ones who have the genuine message of salvation and ALL others are false, wrong, apostate, of Satan and so on. And they have also declared that a person absolutely MUST become a JW in order to have the possibility of maybe gaining salvation one day. Now - To be a JW means that a person is absolutely 100% REQUIRED to believe the listing above - without question - for the possibility of MAYBE gaining salvation one day. For JWs, anyone who does not subscribe 100% to the above is apostate. The problem is - NONE of what's listed above is actually biblical.

[@777Tralfaz777]

@@jamesritter5078 You said No, it does not depend on "perspective"" Like normal, you are 100% incorrect. If one believes they found the truth, then who is an apostate to them would depend on that perspective. Never on someone else's perspective, or point of view, who believes differently. You said "It depends on measuring what JWs believe with the standard of Scripture to see whether or not - in fact and truth" That is a different argument. I agree with this standard. The Bible is the touchstone. However, one cannot "turn away" from the truth, if they never knew the truth. You said "The JW belief of Christ really being Michael the angel is falsehood according to Scripture. Here's why that's true:" And you proceed to list things based entirely on *your* subjective opinion. 🤣 Here is the facts: Jesus is God's Son. The firstborn of all creation, the beginning of the creation by God. God sent Jesus to this Earth to be the promised Messiah, and to buy back what Adam lost for mankind. Jesus taught us we need to repent of our sins if we are to have life. Please ask for scripture for any of these points. James, do you believe repentance is necessary for salvation? *YES or NO.*

[@XSquibX]

You know you're in for a bad time when you have to edit the Bible and produce your own translation to make your whole belief system semi coherent or to reinforce it. This goes for Jehova's Witnesses right on over to places like Bethel with "The Passion Translation Bible".

[@kcr7392]

Luther...

[@ob2249]

xsquibx that`s christianity. they came up with a fairy story. edited it, revised it, added to it, removed books from it. decided what was and was not going in it. then tell us its the word of god. the book says so. lol nonsense stories of an invisible man used to justify violence and hatred in his name. it would be funny if it wasn`t so obscene.

[@thursoberwick1948]

@@kcr7392 Roman Catholics... who translate the Greek word for "brothers", adelphoi, as "cousins" so it fits in with all their complex Marian doctrine.

[@thursoberwick1948]

@@ob2249 Why do you folk always use the same clichés? I don't know if there is an atheist bot farm out there with certain phrases programmed into it - "fairy story" for one. (Which isn't actually accurate in ethnographic and lit crit terms.)

[@ob2249]

@@thursoberwick1948 if the cap fits wear it. it gets referred to as a "fairy story" because it is a "fairy story" there`s no need for an atheist bot farm as you so affectedly claim. Christians are doing a far better job at turning people away from your god "fairy story" is an effective euphemism for bollox. I`m happy with either.

[@GoatlikePersonality]

I used to be JW cult recruiter. If you want some inside tips on how to witness to JWs... you could interview me. The normal things that christians say to JW does not work. But other stuff do

[@blade7506]

sure i’m willing to hear you out

[@GoatlikePersonality]

@Ruus Hardy Did you like it? Or are you not a real christian ;-) Like and subscribe

[@patricj951]

Goatlike personality, I have discussed a lot with Jehowa's witnesses earlier. One thing I have understood is that some will never be persuaided by the typical christian arguments. There is a doctrine which needs to be questioned first: the doctrine that God has an organisation which is lead by his Spirit. This doctrine effectively prevents many from question the teaching overall.

[@Kenooe]

How can someone talk sense into them, then?

[@jonathanfarrell2378]

Very nicely done! Thanks for taking the time to research and present this. It’s interesting that these teachings are very much steeped in the 19th Century. We are now in the 21st Century.

[@gymratnoah2259]

Wow. Thank you for the amount of work you put into this presentation!

[@betsybattles2696]

These people are in real bondage!

[@GullahGeecheeFarmer]

Yes indeed

[@Deep.Purple]

They really are and they can't break free unless everyone helps them in a very christian way.

[@antiNuetron]

We don't teach that God will torment sinners in "Hell" forever, for a finite sin. That's very blasphemous. That lie holds you in bondage.

[@ob2249]

@@antiNuetron so he will just torture them in hell for a little bit ? till he`s bored ? tired? has to leave to give babies hiv ? the lie he`s a loving god is what holds you in abject bondage.

[@antiNuetron]

@@ob2249 No, God doesn't torture or torment anyone in hell. Thats a lie that JWs don't teach because the Bible doesn't say that.

[@jackjones3657]

The more I learn of false teachings, the more true Biblical Christianity and the singular atonement of Christ stands out.

[@Tubalcain422]

Which Christian beliefs is that? Yours or your neighbors?

[@Coldfront-sg3tt]

@@Tubalcain422 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world

[@Coldfront-sg3tt]

@@Tubalcain422 Matthew 7:15-23 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. ...

[@Coldfront-sg3tt]

@@Tubalcain422 the Creator of Jehovah's Witness was also accused of Rape. I hope this openz your blind eyes

[@Tubalcain422]

@@Coldfront-sg3tt Thank you for telling me he was ACCUSED of rape. I won’t leave him alone with my daughter.

[@lilamerican7296]

Thank you so much for these amazingly clear, reasurched videos! You are an amazing resource!

[@kathyalex778]

I feel so sorry for anyone who grew up in this organization. It sounds exhausting. Literally EVERYTHING is against their rules! And even if you're perfect, you still might not be picked for heaven! 😂🤦‍♀️

[@watchman8644]

@everything you need to know That’s because you believe all the lies about Jehovah’s Witnesses you’ve heard. I was raised as one and I didn’t miss out on anything. What’s against the rules? Fornication, lying, stealing, etc. the things that are condemned in the Bible. What else? Christmas, Easter and any celebration based on Pagan gods and beliefs. Anyone with the sense to use an encyclopedia can learn the facts about these holidays and their pagan origins. If you think it is acceptable to God to contaminate his worship with false worship and call it good, then you have not read the Bible. Besides these things, JWs don’t miss out on anything. We enjoy dancing, laughing, sports, movies, cards, etc. and all kinds of things that are fun to do. Good, clean fun.

[@LazuliPrince7]

Hi! Grew up Jehovah Witness and it totally IS exhausting 😅 This video drove the mail in the coffin

[@Player74982]

@@watchman8644 you can’t even celebrate your own birthday…

[@Player74982]

@@watchman8644 and you believe you can’t study the Bible by yourself?? That you MUST listen to the higher officials in church because you can’t decide for yourself or in small group how to read and understand the Bible.

[@olivetree7756]

@@LazuliPrince7 If it was exhausting, you or your family made it so. Unless your were battling sin. That can be exhausting for any christian.

[@TyroneBeiron]

Didn't mention how the JWs change/alter texts in each edition of their bible.

[@TyroneBeiron]

@@jacobp4330 Hahaha. There is no mix-up. But you are in error here: 'Trinitarians' adopted an understanding of scripture, not altered it. And your point is moot you don't seem know the plain facts about how each edition of the JW Bibles have changes or alterations made to it, and not based on critical source textual updates.

[@TyroneBeiron]

@lary Snw For example kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2fccoOrfKaBrpo Best if you research it yourself.

[@misterauctor7353]

​@larysnw418John 3:16, that was alter. So, was Col 1:16.

[@yelsahblah3270]

While alot of this was troubling to hear, the biggest red flag was you not being allowed to read your Bible alone. Because then the truth would be revealed. That and denying Jesus and the Trinity. I pray that those lost in this cult see the light and come out of the darkness.

[@antiNuetron]

One problem with your comment is this “read your Bible”. What “Bible” are you talking about? No English translation of the Bible is fully accurate, including the NWT. To find the truth we must study the original languages ourselves. Which is one thing us JWs do.

[@bridgeeeena5798]

An absolutely HUGE red flag. “Don’t read the word of God, but instead read the word of man”. YIKES.

[@maxhess3151]

@@antiNuetron So you're saying the best way to access the most complete truth of the Bible is to force yourself to be ignorant of the contents of the Bible? That doesn't add up.

[@maxhess3151]

So the second biggest red flag is denying the Trinity? Is there some reason you could possibly explain to me (someone born outside Christianity) for why the Trinity is so important that only a cult could deny it?

[@antiNuetron]

@@maxhess3151 What? Where did you get that twisted idea from anything I wrote?

[@joelogjam9163]

Recently, they've lightened up a bit on the beards rule. Considering both Jesus and Charles Taze Russell (An early leader of the Watchtower Society) had massive beards, I always thought it was a difficult rule to justify.

[@marvalice3455]

They used to legitimately argue that jesus didn't have a beard

[@EyePodX]

@@marvalice3455 It’s interesting how early publicans depicted Jesus without a beard, then they gave him a short beard lol.

[@abashedsanctimony154]

It was a Roman custom to be clean shaven as they were image based, and cutting of beards in other Jewish custom was for punishment. Shaving of the head was to mourn someone. And Jesus was to be given a completely different appearance in order to discredit Him. The Jews that hated Christ from Palestine were the one who said He married Magdalene, because she was an adulterer. This was the most heretical part of talmudic rabbinism slandering His image. Having a beard in these days isn't as relevant as loyalty to Christ and pure doctrine, but they do have beards so as to pretend authenticity. Beards are what Jews are to have. Christians aren't under the old law.

[@ob2249]

@@abashedsanctimony154 abashed indeed. of course beards are terribly important to the creator of the universe. lol, why wouldn`t they be ? lol. foreskins too. mightily important to the one who crafted orion`s belt and the andromeda galaxy. lol oh almost forgot the special underpants. lel (laughing even louder). nonsense all of it.

[@dmac2899]

Beards are some of the least of these heretics worries.

[@AlphaShark]

Could you do a video like this on Mormons?

[@garrettbodnovich2171]

I find myself in an odd position, for I categorically renounce the Witnesses. Having been raised as one and having intention of becoming a ministerial servant as they were known at the time, I take severe issue theologically (and even personally with both some of the “men” chosen to be elder and the stances they took). Yet I take great issue with those who create arguments that are whole falsehood. So thank you for sighting your sources. That being said...wow. I thought the teaching was in serious error twenty years ago. I also always had issue with such a firm doctrine on small issues (such as the color of dress shirt or whether western boots were permissible). To then have to have a whole governmental movement that establishes the sole position acceptable sends a chill down my spine. The tap dance over the 144,000 and a like is just a utter denunciation of themselves by their own words.

[@garrettbodnovich2171]

@Jaime Pira I am very much a Christian. Went through a few seasons of self styled Gnosticism and occultism but the Lord took hold of me and I am so grateful he did.

[@wordforever117]

People do the same thing with Catholicism all the time. Saying they worship statues and stupid stuff like that. It is very annoying.

[@AkChiVibes]

I think I’m going to have to watch this again.. One or two or 43 times. You’re so knowledgeable and lightning fast lol! Well done.

[@daveross7731]

If I watch or listen again it is because he talks so fast, hard to keep up.

[@geraldsutton9981]

@@daveross7731 Faster he talks the less you hear........or comprehend.

[@MRTOWELRACK]

I love the video format. I feel like Neo in The Matrix when he gets uploaded jiu jitsu, except it's about religion instead!

[@LuvBorderCollies]

Options are: Pause, Back and/or adjust the video speed which has preset speeds or you can do a Custom speed. I have a hearing loss in certain frequencies so I miss some syllables. But that's where the "CC" function really helps.

[@rehab5355]

This is NOT the one to watch over & over....the material is about Lies (well done never-the less)....Study The Ones with Truth

[@Silarias]

Just their practice of shunning is enough for me to condemn the JW religion as un-Christ-like, among many other things. I'm so grateful to be part of a church whose teachings and organization have been restored by Christ Himself, and that teaches us NEVER to have blind faith!

[@truthbetold8610]

Then you would have HATED first century Christianity since they did the exact same thing! Try reading your Bible before running your mouth.

[@Jabberwockybird]

Let's clarify what first century Christians were to shun. According to 1 Corinthians 5, Christians were to shun those who claimed to be believers, but practiced immorality (drunkenness, geed, sexual imorality, abusive, swindlers, etc.). The unsaved were not to be judged, only those who claimed to be Christians.

[@truthbetold8610]

@@Jabberwockybird Exactly, they were commanded to not even EAT with such a man, and yet these commenters think they should "embrace" the UNREPENTANT sinner! In effect, they are putting themselves above God's word, big mistake.

[@YuhannaMourad]

I was an atheist and was caught in that cult for two years during pandemic. I am now searching for Christ and true Church 🙏

[@jamesritter5078]

The Gospel of John is excellent for those who are searching.

[@YuhannaMourad]

@@jamesritter5078 I realised that JWs purposely mistranslate a lot of verses in Gospel of Saint John

[@jamesritter5078]

@@YuhannaMourad Yes. And not just the Gospel of John.

[@mochisprite9779]

I know this comment is a bit old, but have you ever heard of the Orthodox Christian church? We're the oldest Christian church in the world, and believe exactly what the apostles taught :) (feel free to ignore lol, I just wanted to make you aware of our existence)

[@stevenniesielowski]

I have a channel that I talk about the Christian faith You are welcome to watch if you like I am here if you have questions Lord bless

[@Mulerider4Life]

Someone who has done research on JW's before, great summary!

[@GratiaPrima_]

Hey there Mulerider! You mean the Muleriders from SAU Magnolia? I’m from Magnolia ☺️

[@Mulerider4Life]

@@GratiaPrima_ You got it! Went there myself.

[@archangel5627]

Wow! Just wow! Thats every single dogmatic Watchtower teaching that differs from mainstream Christianity. As a former JW, I can’t believe how crazy some of their teachings are after being gone for so long. For example, Watchtower’s belief that Micheal the Archangel is the same entity as Jesus Christ always bothered me. Now I’m wondering if any other church that came from the Millerite movement believes in that same teaching like the Seventh Day Adventists. After all, Charles Taz Russel was a former Seventh Day Adventist before he broke away to start the Bible Student movement which we all know became the Jehovahs Witnesses after Joseph Rutherford forcefully took over the Watchtower Society. This was an extremely entertaining and informative video and I look forward to checking out some of your other content. Cheers!

[@ReadyToHarvest]

Thanks Arch Angel. Yes, SDAs have taught, and Ellen G White did, that Jesus is Michael as well. It is not a major point of doctrine so some SDAs even deny it today.

[@archangel5627]

@@ReadyToHarvest I didn’t know that. Thanks again for the info. Take care!

[@ThyWordIsTruthJ17]

I'm an Adventist. Yes, Michael, which means, One who is like God, is believed to be Jesus just as [the] Angel of the Lord in the Old Testament is often believed to be a reference to Jesus Himself. Angel simply means messenger, and Jesus is not viewed as having the nature of an angel. He is viewed as perfectly equal with the Father, eternally self-existent, 'in Whom was all the fullness of the Godhead bodily." Colossians 2:9. Michael is simply viewed as a title for Jesus. Jesus is the, I AM. John 8:58. He and the Father are one. John 10:30. I remember now a key word associated with Michael and Jesus (or the Messiah in Daniel). 1. Prince: both the Messiah and Michael are called our prince (Daniel 9:25; 10:21)

[@ThyWordIsTruthJ17]

Adventists do not believe Jesus is an angel; only that He took the 'title' of Michael the archangel. That's it. If you want to know why Adventists come to the conclusion that Michael is a title that refers to Jesus, just examine these verses: First, the same 'voice' that awakens the dead is both the voice of the Son of God and the voice of the archangel-- "The dead shall hear [the voice of the Son of God]: and they that hear shall live." John 5:25. "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with [the voice of the archangel], and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first." 1 Thessalonians 4:16. Second, Michael is called our 'prince' as is also the Messiah in Daniel. "Messiah the prince," Daniel 9:25. "Michael... the great prince." Daniel 12:1. "Michael, your prince." Daniel 10:21. Feel free to examine the context. No Adventist that I know of thinks that Jesus is an angel or anything less than fully divine -"the fullness of the Godhead bodily," "God manifest in the flesh." Colossians 2:9; 1 Timothy 3:16. God bless you richly!

[@isaiah30v8]

@@ThyWordIsTruthJ17 ---- Here is another problem: . Was it Jesus Christ or Gabriel who said these word to Daniel: . Daniel 10:21 However, I shall tell you the things noted down in the writing of truth, and there is no one holding strongly with me in these [things] but Mi´cha·el, the prince of YOU people. . If it was Jesus Christ who said these words to Daniel then Michael is not Jesus Christ! . If it was Gabriel who said these words to Daniel then why did Jesus Christ NOT hold strongly to the writing of truth? . Two ways to resolve this is either: . It was Jesus Christ who spoke these words to Daniel and Michael is not Jesus Christ. . or . Gabriel spoke these words to Daniel and Michael is Jesus Christ. . . Is there a good way to identify who it was that said these words to Daniel? . .

[@pamelawhite3632]

WOW! Thank you for this thorough, yet succinct description of the error of the JW's.

[@WonderfulLife135]

You Sir Are Spot On !!!!! I know because I was a JW for 48 years of my Life being Born into the Cult and going through all the Ranks to become a High Level Elder within our Circuit. Good Job going through their Belief System !!!!!

[@jamesritter5078]

Hi, redrider. I would be interested in reading your story if you'd be willing to share. You can make it as condensed or lengthy as you wish.

[@gamelandmaster3680]

@@jamesritter5078 I will share mine. When I was born, my mother was the eldest daughter of the head of a Kingdom Hall (the providing overseer) however he was ordered by the higher ups to go to where the “need was great” basically a place that there were few JW’s to convert them (this was somewhere in Texas in the 1960s) and she told me many stories of driving for 2 hours to reach the closest congregation, and she would move to a new school every semester in school o follow her parents. In short, my mothers father was deeply entrenched. He however stepped down from his post because his second eldest daughter (my mothers younger sister) was married to a non believer when she was 15. So my grandfather basically raised his grandchildren like thy were his children. This was a big no no in the organization and so he proactively stepped down. My father was different. He was in a poor family in Monrovia California in the mid 50s and in the 60s he too was introduced when a old lady appeared and converted the whole family. However my fathers mother was a Cinderella stepmother type and did what people today would call child abuse. I can go into more detail about the backstories but the point is that these histories had a profound impact on me. Their lives seemed miserable, my mothers was bad inside and my fathers life improved when he got into JW. However when I was born they had largely been isolated, they didn’t leave but were instead ghosting, they would read the Bible but wouldn’t minister, they are what JW’s call inactive. But around the early 2000s they came back, which was around I was 9. So for my entire life I knew of this idea of JW’s but never knew what they were all about. I came in and say some great success in the ministry(prob because I was a child and no one can turn away a child) but when I was in my teens I saw the problems. The specific congregation I was in had a lot of older people and the younger people were pressured to take eldership status (because anyone with bible knowledge and baptized can become one). I rejected. I had some other younger teen friends in that hall, who eventually fell away for reasons I didn’t know. What eventually got me was when we were going to Mc Donald’s after some ministry. When the elder asked me if I was considering baptism. That was the moment that I collapsed in my opinion of JW. I suddenly had a moment of silent clarity that these people wanted my youth and not the betterment of me. I started having game theories in my head that if my best isn’t what god thinks is my best then I will have a life entirely wasted. I practically zoned out from that point onward until I eventually did what my parents did before me (they were dead by this) so I had no lose of family to consider and friends had largely left before me. So again, I just slowly stopped attending and never did get baptized, in fact because leaving was the ultimate aim after that elder talk, I felt quite happy that I didn’t go all in too soon. Now I have heard many antidotes that primarily come from Hispanic congregations in South California (I was born in Idaho). One of which was when my father and mother got engaged. When he entered my mothers Spanish hall it would be obvious to show greetings and shake hands, so when my father went to shake an elders hand he put his hand away, because my father was white and thus a gringo. So when I look at people saying that JW’s are this or that, I shrug my head because frankly, they are all human. It is true that JW have a weakness against pedos, but it is also true that some congregations are renowned for their peacefulness, and yet others are so with their lack of such qualities.

[@jamesritter5078]

@@gamelandmaster3680 Thanks much for sharing!

[@JxT1957]

Jesus is God. John 20:28 and Thomas answered and said unto him, "My Lord and my God". Jesus did not rebuke Thomas, but affirms his belief in the next verse.

[@dmac2899]

Also John 1 is such a good chapter showing the Lord Jesus is God. He is the Word and the Word was with God and the Word *was* God.

[@jamesritter5078]

@@gustavmahler1466 - ? I don't know how or where you got that idea.

[@jamesritter5078]

@@gustavmahler1466 - Nonsense. John 1 makes it glaringly clear that the Word = The Son = Jesus Christ, and that He was always with God the Father.

[@jamesritter5078]

@@gustavmahler1466 The actual problem is that if you want to try to argue that the Word is not the Son, Jesus Christ, you are engaging in nothing less than deliberate blindness to the text of John 1. Check out verse 14 - The Word - The Son - The One who was with God "in the Beginning" - Christ - became flesh. Jesus Himself spoke of the glory He had with the Father before the world was ever created in John 17:5

[@jamesritter5078]

@@gustavmahler1466 - YOU are the one who needs to think. My post of 2 hours ago solidly stands, and you can't do anything to refute it. You can deny it, but you cannot refute it. BIG difference between the two.

[@Tokimime31]

Sounds cultic to me...

[@chibichocolate]

it is!

[@gilbertotoledo1421]

Especially the part about no free thought at all. Even Catholics are free to disagree with the Church to a certain extent.

[@RealCaptainAwesome]

@@gilbertotoledo1421 Straight up double-think. I wonder if that doctrine came out before or after `1984`. That is crazy. `JW has always been at war with East Asia!`

[@johnlux6635]

All religions are cults to some degree. Herd the delusional and pick their pockets.

[@aaroncrosby2173]

so true.

[@psymw]

Can you you do a comparison of Christianity vs Mormonism? Thanks for the great videos

[@KingPoseidon02]

We both believe Jesus is the Christ and God, Lord, and Savior.

[@graycross1761]

@@KingPoseidon02 but Jesus is God

[@KingPoseidon02]

@@graycross1761 exactly.

[@KingPoseidon02]

@@graycross1761 that is why I explained that Mormons worship Jesus Christ with the rest of Christianity knowing He is our God.

[@giovieaguilos5034]

@@KingPoseidon02 but you believe you will become God, Pantheism mormons believe there are many gods

[@ThePhoenixAscendant]

Growing up I'd always see JWs out spreading the word and that they'd pass our house, look at it, and then continue on. I never realized what was going on until one day I was talking to my father about them and he told me a story about how some had come around, and he invited them in saying, "I'll give you an hour to share your faith if you'll give me an hour to share mine." They spent two hours talking and then the Witnesses left. The next week they came back with two of their elders and spent another two hours talking at which point the two juniors and one elder walked out to the street while the other elder stood on the porch with my father and said in no uncertain terms that they'd never be back. When he told me the story, it had been seventeen years and we'd never had a single JW come knocking at our door.

[@jamesritter5078]

Good.

[@mitchmiller7204]

@Phoenix Ascendant. After that incident, your house was marked 'dangerous.'

[@DisobedientSpaceWhale]

Why wouldn't they come back?

[@chedelirio6984]

@@DisobedientSpaceWhale Someone who could actually debate their elders with his own beliefs for hours... dangerous to expose the mere footsoldiers to someone like that!

[@collinsa8909]

Their lies failed to work with you

[@vedinthorn]

Look, when an organization doesn't want you to study things for yourself and has to actively change the very book itself from which you would study to stack the deck in their favor, it's just impossible to think they have your best interest in mind.

[@jaystuff5292]

Too many have misunderstood what "independent thinking" is. It does not mean independent from the WBTS, but independent from God's moral standards. It a term that simply describes any thought form that is MORALLLY INDEPENDENT from God. Thinking that sex outside marriage is okay would thus be "independent thinking", for example.

[@phyllislove598]

They don't tell people not to read on their own, they have Bible aids that help understand the Bible

[@vedinthorn]

@@jaystuff5292 and how might you know God's moral standards?

[@vedinthorn]

@@phyllislove598 that's called not reading on your own. Are they cool with using materials from all other denominations and scholarship totally unrelated to their own schools? If not, that's cultish behavior.

[@phyllislove598]

@@vedinthorn no Christians must stay away from false religion,a person much have an understanding of the Bible, otherwise you can read it from cover to cover, without the understanding, you are no better off than if you hadn't read it

[@WoFDarkNewton]

Any group that changes their beliefs over time, and simultaneously declares that all their beliefs must be followed, is hypocritical and has no self-awareness.

[@Tubalcain422]

So basically all religions. I agree.

[@WoFDarkNewton]

@@Tubalcain422 Actually all ideologies, including science. Science says "believe us, we're objective" but changes their beliefs over time as well. Yes, the core principle never changes ("follow the best available evidence") but then, neither does the core principle of religion ("follow God to the best of your knowledge").

[@PrezVeto]

@@WoFDarkNewton Science doesn't say that; bad scientists do.

[@keegster7167]

@@Tubalcain422 Catholics have dogma that you “have” to believe, but there are lower level doctrines and almost all the saints are optionally believed (bc at least ideally they take a scientific view that you can’t be sure that there ISN’T some natural cause for miracles, but there’s evidence that makes the probability higher). I’m sure there are other religions that are similar though, actually, even moreso with less standardized religions. Hindus don’t seem to “have” to believe very much to be honest. But of course, that is a different case. I love learning about the ancient texts of a bunch of religions so I try to have an open mind towards many of them. I also believe the ancient Romans had a pretty large range in their beliefs, depending on the philosophic sects.

[@williamchristy9463]

@@WoFDarkNewton Except scientific paradigm almost never changes to the opposite of what it was. We make new discoveries, certainly, some of which fundamentally alter how things like physics are considered-- but there is a difference between refining ideas which you are uncertain about based on further evidence, and completely reversing statements of fact. And even then, Newtonian physics is still valid-- within the environmental confines of earth.

[@shoespeak]

I actually have a lot of reasons to thank JWs - the friendly debates with them on my porch for a year really taught me a lot about my faith and stirred in a hopefully life long passion for apologetics. I pray they will get saved.

[@jamesritter5078]

@lary Snw - You are wrong, as usual. The Bible speaks very clearly of Christians having salvation in the present tense.

[@MackBŗislawn]

The same with me.

[@misterauctor7353]

​@larysnw418Are you trolling?

[@Hun_Uinaq]

Yes. Very accurate. The one correction I would make concerns reading the Bible by oneself. We were actually encouraged to do this. It’s also OK to study in groups. As long as you base your studying and your conclusions on the publications by the watchtower, you were OK to do this. It’s when you start drawing conclusions that go contrary to doctrine and you discuss it with other members that you get into trouble. Sometimes, you can discuss it with people you trust. Family members in that sort of thing. Other times, you’ll get a talking to about not having enough faith. If you keep it up though, you can get yourself in serious trouble where they start disciplinary action on you. I ran into this issue lots of times because of the 1914 and 1919 doctrines. Always seemed absurd to me. It’s all based on an inaccurate date. Thanks again for the video

[@jamesritter5078]

From the read of your post, I take it you have escaped.

[@Hun_Uinaq]

@@jamesritter5078 I have successfully, I think, faded away. It’s the only way you can actually leave and still have a modicum of a relationship with your loved ones that are still in. If you do the big dramatic exit, you get shunned. Your own parents are made to shun you whether they want to or not on pain of themselves being shunned. It’s pretty awful stuff. Coercive control at its worst But, yes, for all intents and purposes, I left but, you never truly leave. They always have some kind of hook in you. Some kind of hold over you.

[@jamesritter5078]

@@Hun_Uinaq Thanks for sharing. What you describe reads like a kind of multi-level blackmail.

[@Wewillbeokay8]

The problem is that you’re encouraged to read the NEW WORLD TRANSLATION of the Bible… which is NOT a Bible. It’s completely botched.

[@aCatholicOne]

I was a JW as well, originally attended to fade away as well, until I became a Christian and decided to proclaim my Faith to everyone, including the "elders", to which they talked to my uncle who is also an "elder", about my behavior. Thankfully I am not "baptized" so I am not shunned, I just get people giving me a stare. Thanks to my knowledge that I have of scripture, I can refute many arguments and have "elders" second think their actions if nesscassary. I do think however, that I am on some JW wanted list, since you know the "elders". My best advice to you is to pick up your cross, persevere as much as you can, and to always love your neighbor and enemy, and to pray for those who persecute you. The evil is when you do contrary to that, and do not be lead by blind faith but to pursue knowledge, and to drink of the cup of natural science until it is right in the bottom, that is where you'll find God. @@Hun_Uinaq

[@SemperVeritas.]

Gog was the breaking point for me. At first I thought this is just another denomination with some wild beliefs. Now I realize it’s a child’s attempt at a fantasy novel that people are enforcing as a religion.

[@bootmender]

Who would want to be a JV?

[@ictoan5966]

JW leaders

[@wesfortney5294]

Some people.

[@karlchilders8215]

They won't participate in any government activity but they will cash those social security checks.

[@qbasicmichael]

They also pay taxes.

[@johnlux6635]

The Social Security checks are the money they put in just like everyone else silly intolerant bigot.

[@uisblackcat]

@@johnlux6635 So they only draw what they actually literally paid? Or will they take COLAs and minimum payments as prescribed by law?

[@johnlux6635]

@@uisblackcat Obviously you wouldn't comprehend it if I explained it. LOL

[@edenromanov]

@@johnlux6635 ehh I just think you don't know the answer buddy.

[@pyrrhusofepirus8491]

“Faithful and discreet slave” could they not think of something less creepy sounding? At least “servant” as some personal choice implied in it.

[@bartmacgregor6078]

The creepier a false religion sounds the better. Less people will fall into their trap

[@lolarayes5845]

I was raised with JW family members and attended the kingdom. Today I am a non-denominational Evangelical today. As I listened to this video, I just kept shaking my head and wondering how I my family members believe this.

[@lolarayes5845]

@@tongakhan230 I was a kid when I went to their kingdom hall. By the time I was a teen, I tuned out mentally. I was agnostic and then became a non-denom evangelical. I knew they denied Jesus deity, didn't celebrate holidays, etc. However, when I hear all the beliefs listed out in a video like this, it really shocks me that so many believe this. Just out of curiosity, are you JW?

[@cat_lover77251]

@@tongakhan230 You guys can never just give a direct answer. You are looking for a way to start a " Bible study". Just answer the damn question!

[@cat_lover77251]

@@tongakhan230 The question put to you , " Are you a jw?". That question. You have to answer with a question to her, then start spouting verses. Just answer her. Are you or not? NOW it is clear to see that yes, you are a jw. if not, you sound like one. Why couldn't you just say so? You are trying to manipulate her.

[@jamesritter5078]

@@cat_lover77251 - Explanation: Tonga is a JW, and comes on here and other boards looking for posts that are days/weeks old. He then responds to them, trying to re-engage the poster so he can spew the JW propaganda. Poster lary snw is a JW and does the same thing. If you think of them as being JW predators, you won't be wrong.

[@cat_lover77251]

@@jamesritter5078 Thank you very much for letting me know! ✌

[@matthewblackwood4704]

So the moral of the story is, we all should pray for the JWs and hope they get out of that cult of false Gospel and get saved with the true Gospel, the way it states in the true Holy Bible going all the way back to the texts in Greek.

[@thursoberwick1948]

The trouble is most Bible translations have issues, and many recent ones pander to current trends, or their sponsors' doctrines. I find the New World Translation is very clunky and stylistically horrible.

[@jamescook5617]

I watched a lot of this at double speed and I think my heart is racing now. Gulp.

[@johnblake8636]

There is only one way to get into heaven and it has nothing to do with the denomination and for sure nothing to do with a religion that isn't part of Christianity. It has everything to do with excepting Christ as your savior. That is why I am in Christ and Christ is in me. Thank you Jesus and thank you God for sending him.

[@johnconstantine2754]

@OTTO OCTAVIOUS Read the actual bible (KJV) and you can see for yourself that 144,000 are the Jews brought through the time of Jacobs trouble(Tribulation), who accept Jesus the their savior and Messiah. 12,000 from all of the 12 tribes of Israel=144,000.

[@jimd9339]

@OTTO OCTAVIOUS The 144,000 are: Jewish men. They are virgins. They are not married and never have been. They are 12,000 of the 12 tribes of Israel. The Watchtower Society are NOT the 144,000.

[@TheSergio1021]

@@johnconstantine2754 I remember hearing somewhere that the 144,000 could be metaphorical. 12 is a number used in the Bible to represent Israel or God's people, and 1000 is to represent a great multitude. So 144,000 = 12x12x1000. The Jews AND the Gentiles, and there will be a great multitude of them. Just one interpretation.

[@mikeparker2520]

Eph 4: 11-14 ?

[@trafledrakel7118]

There is no difference between JW and christians. Both monopolize salvation.

[@vincentpinto1127]

Wow! Remarkable effort and work. This format is quite comprehensive, and we'd love if you can present other groups/denominations/cults in the manner as this video. Thanks again.

[@duaneadams5210]

I just watched this for the second time. Wow....what a great presentation. You must have done a LOT of research to present this. All of your presentations are great, but this one is one of the best. I really appreciate your presentations as they are non biased and just present the facts. Thank You for your efforts to educate us.

[@truthbetold8610]

I've seen what he considers "truth" and disputed every one of his lies, the man knows nothing accurately just the same garbage that I've debunked numerous times.

[@truthbetold8610]

He attempted to "prove' that JW's believe in a false Christ by using Scriptures. I showed him what those Scriptures actually mean which is NOT what he thought they meant and after that there was no response from him which speaks volumes. He has no idea what he's talking about.

[@jamesritter5078]

@@truthbetold8610 - Nope. The above post is 100% blatant falsehood. Go ahead and start a new thread today and you'll be refuted all over again.

[@truthbetold8610]

@@jamesritter5078 You didn't refute anything, you can make another feeble attempt but just like previously I proved your beliefs to be wrong, but you can try again. Interesting that you think the Scriptures support your view when they don't. There I started a new thread, what else you got?

[@jenningsrountree458]

I love all your programs and am amazed at the breadth of your knowledge.

[@jerryjohanan1940]

I got out in 2003 and they have changed so much from my years in the ORG

[@marvalice3455]

I only got out recently. Before i got out, i actually thought all the changes were a good thing, because that is just how the indoctrination works.

[@stephanytaylor4767]

I quietly left around 2000....my sis recently, we are both Christians now😊

[@thedukeofchutney468]

The Bible: You are saved through Christ alone. The JW’s: 👁 👄 👁

[@wandaperi]

N👁‍🗨rmie

[@AverageCommentor]

Well, the demons believe in Christ, so are they saved?

[@thedukeofchutney468]

@@AverageCommentor I didn't say you are saved by believing in the divinity of Christ you're saved by recognizing you are a sinner and accepting Jesus as your savior.

[@AverageCommentor]

@@thedukeofchutney468. James 2: 19, 20, (KJV) "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?" Works are definitely required.

[@thedukeofchutney468]

@@AverageCommentor Works are not required for salvation, but rather works are a product of salvation. If you are saved then you will show it by doing good works, however, you are NOT saved BY good works. Again works are a product of salvation, not a component.

[@sneedfest3399]

Its amazing how their entire doctrine on Christ's divinity stems from a deliberately wrong translation of "The Word was God"

[@sneedfest3399]

@@jacobp4330 Christ showing deferrence to the Father =/= Christ was not God The Son obeys the Father, as God is perfectly obedient to himself

[@shbr8369]

New viewer👋🏽I appreciate your commentaries so far...it has no bias(straight faced w/no laughter)...gives info(not opinion) and WE can come to OUR OWN conclusions💯THANK YOU🙏🏽Ps what a perfect way to phrase different beliefs without offense~unique, a truly Christian thing to do! I may not believe the same, but at least I can get thru the entire post because you don't interject your personal view😃👏🎉💗THANKS AGAIN

[@porfiriojohn5276]

7 - 20 - 23 Are there more dissimilarities between Adventism and the Jehovah's Witnesses or are there more dissimilarities between Adventism and the Jehovah's Witnesses ( Which one is it ) ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !

[@cjextreme]

The fact that you made it through this reading without busting out laughing shows me you have a lot more self control than I ever will👍

[@t.b.6052]

Thank You Thank You Joshua! High Density Content for sure! I get sooo bored with many videos- you are great-

[@KreigsMarine2]

In my church, nothing changes. You can always learn more about the way the truth and the life. But it doesn't change year to year.

[@MackBŗislawn]

The same old Truths, year after year, century after century. Boooring!

[@KreigsMarine2]

@Mack Bŗislawn the word of God, will not change.

[@KarlieBlue777]

Thank you. God bless you for helping so many of us (me especially!) better understand the variety of Christian/non-Christian beliefs.

[@Yabooo]

All of this feels like a rapid fire one-liner stand up routine

[@rogermetzger7335]

If you ever decide to devote a video to the beliefs and practices of Seventh-day Adventists, I recommend the book Tell It to the World by C. Mervyn Maxwell (Pacific Press Publishing Association 1966). I don't explain the history of the advent movement exactly as Mervyn Maxwell did but the 270 pages of that book provide the best overview I have seen in a treatise of that length.

[@xima54]

Could you do one with seventh day adventist

[@BeardedDisciple]

Your research is amazing. I greatly appreciate this.

[@JoannaPete]

Thank God for taking me out of the JW cult and bringing me to true Christianity.

[@jamesritter5078]

Hi. I'm not a JW. I would be interested in reading your story of how you escaped from the JW cult to Christianity if you're willing to share.

[@frankmckinley1254]

One question. Was it exusting to have to regurtate all that bovine flatuance? Thanks for pointing out many of these false teachings.

[@faesky]

So this is why my dad left that cult... lol thank u so much for this video.

[@vargon557]

Jason, Your videos are all well-researched and thoughtfully presented. I hope you continue to make videos comparing different denominations. These comparisons highlight a long-ignored truth: modern nominal Christian churches and denominations are very highly fractured. They differ from one another in many hair-splitting dichotomies. Nowhere else online is this fact so evident. Can they all be considered "Christian?" This cacophony is the result of autonomous management of congregations. Is there only one true God? Do all people who self-identify as Christians worship and serve that one true God? Really, how could they? If they did, they'd all worship the same way. But they choose to differ. In the Book of Judges chapter 17, we read the phrase, "6 In those days there was no king in Israel, but every man did that which was right in his own eyes." This is what is currently going on in Christendom now. Every church is doing what is right in their own eyes. Why? Because they have no king. They pledge allegiance to whatever human government under which they live, even going to war to protect that government. God's Kingdom exists for them only as something in a prayer they repeat on Sunday. While many groups want to call themselves "United (this or that)" they cannot because they are not united. Only one group today stand out as completely united worldwide. No wonder they differ in many ways from all the other denominations. The title of this video suggests that Jehovah’s Witnesses differ from "Christans," but what yardstick do you use to define that moniker? You yourself constantly prove that there is no universally accepted standard for the meaning of the word. Anyway, keep it up; you're doing a great job.

[@gailgriffith8957]

Well done, thank you!

[@vonbass1300]

Talk about a group locking it's members out of heaven. God -Jesus sets you free.. JWs - wait

[@watchman8644]

@Von Bass Isaiah 45:19 God created the earth to be inhabited. Psalms 37:11 & 29 The righteous and meek people will live forever on the earth in peace. Revelation 21:4 We know this isn’t talking about heaven, because there has never been pain, suffering or death in heaven and here it says “the former things have passed away”. Ecclesiastes 3:11 tells us God put an eternity in our hearts. That’s why, even people who have been misled to believe they’ll go to heaven when they die, still don’t want to die. We have a natural, God-given desire to live on earth. Gods purpose for the earth has not changed. Genesis 1:28 tells us that purpose. Satan lied, Adam and Eve sinned, but that did not change God’s purpose for people or the earth. God had already created angels in heaven. If he wanted more beings in heaven, why would he create the earth, make people, after they sin allow them to suffer and then if they’re good, take them to heaven? That just doesn’t make sense and it’s also not what the Bible teaches. Isaiah 65:21-22 Adam and Eve were locked out of the garden of Eden. Gods people will be given the paradise earth again, as God originally purposed. No one is being “locked out of heaven”. The truth the Bible teaches is of a paradise earth. Isaiah 25:8 says Jehovah will swallow up death forever. Daniel 2:44 shows God’s kingdom will stand forever. Under that kingdom, the one Jesus taught us to pray for at Matthew 6:9-11 and the one he instructed his followers to preach about (Matthew 24:14), God’s true followers will enjoy life on a peaceful earth, forever.

[@vonbass1300]

@@watchman8644 even your own teachings say the 144,000 (those first Jehovahs witnesses, go to HEAVEN.) The watchtower has made the rest of you second class citizens, and literally locked you out of heaven.

[@deus_vult8111]

@@watchman8644 The Bible says we go to heaven

[@BunnySlippers82]

Serious question: did they remove the part of Paul's teaching where he talks about Christ's physical return? Their whole idea is confusing.

[@Jabberwockybird]

Tonga, did you not read verse 14? "...until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ." Also, lets look at verse 16, "who no man hath seen (past), nor can see (present)", but it doesn't mention future. Verse 14 covers the future pretty well.

[@alvincash3230]

My best friend of over 50 years and his entire family are Jehovah's Witnesses. Growing up, I was often included in their studies and, although their faith isn't for me, I have a great deal of respect for them. JH's are among the nicest, kindest, and most decent people I know. I'm pleased to see this video, which presents an unbiased explanation of their beliefs. Thank you so much!

[@AllHaiLKINGTIsHeRe3]

One thing that many people have noted is that the difference between JWs evangelists and Mormon evangelists is massive in terms of how they interact with your questions. JWs will go into all kinds of detail on deep theological questions, and it seems like they do that on their website as well. It may be a bit crazy, but they're upfront about it. Mormons on the other hand, just try to be as vague as possible and make it sound like Mormonism is a social club or something. Ideally for Mormons, you learn more about it only as you get deeper into the actual organization.

[@ripcord8738]

I'm a JW and that's true. I've had a number of discussions with Mormons and when I bring up a particular subject, they don't seem to be well versed in scripture. The impression I get is that they're inexperienced.

[@olivetree7756]

@@ripcord8738 Thats because most of them are young kids. But JWs are most often misrepresented by their opposers and ex JWs sometimes talk as if their experiences are common to all JWs, which is not true. In fact no matter what religion or church, people who leave say similar things. Thousands of ex-christians of all denominations leaving the faith and saying similar things. Most people don't find out for themselves what JWs believe just regurgitate and spread the misinformation.

[@ripcord8738]

@@olivetree7756 Yup.

[@misterauctor7353]

​@@olivetree7756Young kids have been s3xual abused? "But JWs are most often misrepresented by their opposers and ex JWs sometimes talk as if their experiences are common to all JWs, which is not true. Do you have proof of this? And, it is true. You have s3xual abused kids. "In fact no matter what religion or church, people who leave say similar things." That's not true. "If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the "last days" in 1914, Jesus foretold: "This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur."-Matt. 24:34. Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in highschool and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!" Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15

[@misterauctor7353]

​@@ripcord8738That's not true. JWs are a cult. "I've had a number of discussions with Mormons and when I bring up a particular subject, they don't seem to be well versed in scripture." Neither are the JW cultists like you. "The impression I get is that they're inexperienced." JWs are inexperienced.

[@starlightatdusk4896]

Holy frijoles. I knew they were Arian heretics. This is insane.

[@ionasan]

Thank you for this well-organized video about this evil cult.

[@geeshta]

Points 2-6 come down to wrong translation of Sheol as "hell" in some translations. However when Christians talk about hell they usually don't refer to Sheol/Hades

[@brianwinters5434]

when i was an academic aasistant in college I helped students with new testament . i would have flunked students who gave me a translation as bad as the NewWorld translation.

[@ajax3017]

Nearly my entire family are Jehovah's Witnesses. My mother was luckily disfellowshipped when I was very young so I was not formally disciplined with such heretical doctrines. My mother was a very devout witness but did not teach me very much about her own faith, to my benefit. Later I discovered the true faith on my own. Unfortunately this means the only people in my family I can stay in contact with are my older brothers. The more I research the organization, the more I dislike it. I may even publicly preach against them. Nearly 19 years later, and I have converted to catholicism.

[@olivetree7756]

You may like to do some research into that. I've just watched a video by a church who preached with scriptural and historical evidence to show that the Catholic Church is not Christian. In fact there are many videos on YT that talk about the Catholic Church not being christian, but anti-christ or apostate. You may find that the more you research the catholic church, you will dislike it and even publicly preach against them.

[@Dial999its-a-good-time]

@@olivetree7756 Your argument holds no value.

[@latindwarf8173]

​@@olivetree7756 Such videos are easily debunked, just watch Trent Horn.

[@kaerligheden]

I encourage you to study more, and find the church that really teach the Bible!

[@ajax3017]

@@olivetree7756 there are a million videos debunking both our arguments, your argument holds no value

[@qaltobascef33]

Knowing this about "shunning", how can we be there for them once they decided to leave the jw's, especially if they are alone in this endeavor, i mean, ive come across situations where a married couple would leave the jw's, they have one another, however i can only imagine how lonely it will be for those who leave as the only person. Anyways, from my side, feel free to reach out if you deem yourself shunned, no matter if it is from jw's or any other "societal structure", i can't promise we will be friends, however i can listen, especially as a brother.

[@paradisefound3536]

That is so lovely. I 'woke up' from this cult alone. Finding your way with zero support can be very tough and often leads to poor choices as JWs have very little clue how the world works and have never spent time with normal people. I would say just be kind and ask them questions. Pointing out flaws in their doctrine only makes them double down. But kindness from worldly satanic people (as they view you/us) is deep down very confusing for them and is ultimately what lead me to question in the first place.

[@kaylakincannon3458]

This is very informative. It’s also helps to explain how they spread it. If you think about what is actually found in the gospel this is a less bitter medicine to swallow. You can try to work towards heaven and if you come up short…. just not exist. Even the Hindu religion holds more consequences for this life. Thank you for sharing this knowledge when I am hopefully having a respectable conversation with them.

[@rudijoris9555]

wow i always thought religion was a bit out there but these guys are way out there...imo.

[@chrisgraham2904]

That's quite a tale that was spun by Charles Taze Russell. I still prefer the fantasy stories of J.K. Rowling, J.R.R. Tolkien and George Lucuas much more. If you actually believe ANY religious story, your mind is not working the way that it is supposed to.

[@erravi]

@@chrisgraham2904 J.R.R. Tolkein was a devout Catholic. You apparently like the way his mind works, at least. Lol

[@chrisgraham2904]

@@erravi I certainly do. Fantasies provide endless entertainment.

[@fcsuper]

JWs organization also doesn't like be pinned down to any particular categorization for their beliefs. They also change beliefs fairly regularly, so this list will likely be outdated to some degree within a few years.

[@fcsuper]

@lary Snw Feel free to explore this YT channel: kzbin.info

[@Jaggerbush]

Ex JW here.... This pretty much sums it up.

[@jamesritter5078]

Hi. I'm not a JW. If you're willing, I'd like to read how you became an Ex JW. I am interested in people's stories of how they left (or escaped).

[@Jaggerbush]

@@jamesritter5078 I don't know that it's terribly exciting - there was some things I found very appealing. There were some people who I really loved too. There's still a sense of void without it. I understand why it's tempting to go back if that's everything you know and you know they would be happy to know you wanted to come back. But when you leave, you burn it all down. It's not as easy as just going back. I know it's all BS. Even if there was a true religion, that wouldn't be it. The one thing JWs do more than most religions is that they study the Bible. It's not like they know a few fluffy scriptures - they have a deep knowledge of the Bible. That too was appealing to me. But I left behind my wife and in-laws and a lot of good things to live a much more solitude life for now.

[@jamesritter5078]

@@Jaggerbush Thanks for your honest sharing. I am sorry to read about the separation between you and your wife and others. ☹

[@Jaggerbush]

@@jamesritter5078 I miss my mother in-law but not my ex wife. Its a cult. Unlike me, my wife was a fifth generation JW. Her great grandfather was of the anointed (if you know what that means) and that goes back to about 1920 in Pittsburgh - where I'm from and where the religion started. So her family is kind of big shots - her grandfather was on the hospital committee here in PGH - meaning he was the one who met with doctors to develop bloodless surgeries (they actually can accept platelets just not a bag of blood)... And then of course her father is an elder.

[@jamesritter5078]

@@Jaggerbush Apologies for misunderstanding you. Yes, I know what that designation means.

[@setisuafa6551]

Please do a study of Rev. Sun Myung Moons Church and Divine Principle. That would be interesting.

[@jamesritter5078]

The Moonies? Are they still around?? I haven't heard anything about them for over a decade.

[@setisuafa6551]

@@jamesritter5078 Yes. Definetly. Gods central Providence is not always visible on the concurrent Peripheral Providence but its all connected. Would love your unbiased analysis please.