Jello Biafra verbal confrontation occupysf

[@donmonmouth8479]

Poor Jello- Trying to make a point when he knew he was surrounded by idiots.

[@jd881]

+Don Monmouth Growing up I always thought the point of "punk" and being on the "left" was to question every "orthodoxy" especially if it comes from people you may agree with. Jello is trying to teach them this, but no luck.

[@havicmyers7011]

+slacker rudie Jello is not a leftist douche bag, he defended himself against that leftist fascist Tipper Gore

[@ribbone1975]

Don Monmouth well...everyone needs an intelligent person to speak to them. and u can't find a better than jello

[@xdeadbeatboi6666x]

Well fuck these idiots! they don't know he was the lead singer of the Dead Kennedys, one of the best, important, and down right influencial bands of the hardcore punk rock era.

[@p.a.5254]

Nathaniel Myers left and right refers to an economic scale, he is a leftist

[@contaigontag]

jello biafra has one of the best voices ive ever heard

[@kishascape]

True, actually called out Obama for what he really was. Unlike most NPCs these days.

[@eligalloway9826]

Do these guys realize who they're talking to? wtf

[@eriknichols4148]

Why would they??

[@rosepatterson951]

When he was saying we hate Nazis, I was like, he has no clue who Jello is haha

[@glenbellefonte9620]

@@rosepatterson951 He is a virtue signaler who duped people like you. And I am sure that they wouldn't care who he is. To them a punk is someone they used to fuck in prison.

[@SpencerJMusic]

"They privatizing the country" lol He doesn't even know what the fuck he's saying.

[@darykoughton5473]

He's fought so hard for so many good things and positive change and this is what he gets its sad

[@diegoallcaps]

Government puppets

[@ElizabethWatfordasu]

Watching those guys made me want to bang my head against the wall. Jello agreed with the fact that privatization keeps the poor, poor. Obama promised change, he promised to hold Wall Street accountable and did not fulfill. In fact he continued to bail out Wall Street, continued to use drones to haphazardly kill people, and in reality let the black community down with inaction. Race is an issue but not only by white people being racist, but by people like those men who turn a blind eye to the failure of Obama because he is black. Jello did a great job restraining himself.

[@TranzparentMethods]

+Elizabeth Watford I voted for Obama in 2008, but seeing the video at 1:42, WOW!!! Jello wasn't even talking about race and it's not about race. If only they knew he ran for Mayor of SF in 1979, they'd probably like his policies even. The people running for president have one goal and one goal ONLY... To get elected, yes, Obama had humble beginnings, but the president doesn't really have a say in ANYTHING in US government. He or she is the FACE of the country, that's what the President of the United States of America has been lessened to. Just as much as the Queen is to England, or damn near anyway. Yes, they have veto power, or so we're told... Are you a puppet or a human being? That's the question you have to ask yourself for 2016, they aren't ANY CANDIDATES....

[@TranzparentMethods]

***** maybe so...

[@TranzparentMethods]

There's always room for Jello....

[@Phoenixx1127]

F in chat for these two dudes who didn't know who Jello was😂 These two guys clearly just cared about the race card when Jello just cares about the politics lol

[@1776Based]

Yep. That's how they roll

[@wineinabox]

Absolutely. Notice the Irish dude doesn't get shouted down. Shoulda invited Stiff Little Fingers haha

[@glenbellefonte9620]

Jello's politics are the race card. He's a charlatan.

[@slickleg6066]

Introducing typical American blacks. 🫴

[@jokermtb]

This is why movements such as this will never amount to any political traction - the impenetrable ignorance of those two 'guys' is proof of it. Obviously, they never had Jello growing up....? Fast forward to 2014, the Occupy movement is gone, and it's back to business as usual.

[@adamantiuscloudcat1799]

They have the intellectual consistency of a jelly under the sun.

[@mainspringguerrilla6841]

How dare that guy insult jello!

[@Mr420ways]

DUDE THOSE TWO BLACK DUDES ARE THE REASON WE NEED CHANGE....EDUCATION!

[@glenbellefonte9620]

You ever tried to educate this dick? Be about the same.

[@maximillianrexcarpediem1469]

Those are the same guys who would call someone like Cornell West an "Uncle Tom".

[@synholiday]

During an election day speech he said, "If I am your president, there will be no warrantless wiretapping," then within months defended warrantless wiretapping using the identical justifications as Bush. He criticized lobbyists, then hired Goldman Sachs and Monsanto lobbyists into his administration.

[@anonymous-yk9sz]

“well I say the same too you, cause he is the problem” lmfao so simple that it makes it even more savage

[@paulevans1299]

There's always room for Jello!

[@MrDave54321]

Yes- the herd mentality in action. The power elite must be very happy. Quite a nice diversionary tactic.

[@zoeyrodriguez1977]

I think there was a lot of misunderstanding here . If Jello and the dumb people confronting him could have talked it out maybe they could have come to an agreement. I don’t think they understood what Jello was talking about

[@glenbellefonte9620]

Nobody does.

[@sharris4162]

If they would just listen to Jello, they would see a true patriot.

[@cbthethird]

People only listen to the homogenized propaganda broadcast on their precious tv's and radios.

[@rogerdodger6025]

A "patriot" who believes in a forcefully disarmed citizenry.

[@towlette902]

@@rogerdodger6025 a patriot doesn’t need a gun to defendhimself

[@circleofstone3114]

@@towlette902 doesn’t hurt to have em if you need em though 🤦‍♂️

[@glenbellefonte9620]

@@towlette902 Have you even read the constitution, idiot?

[@OneAfter-wb9gq]

I love this man so much.

[@sbeutler]

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have. ~Thomas Jefferson

[@gtaylor1812]

You cant reason with ignorance, as this clearly shows....ignorance has no boundaries.

[@dmousse4245]

Oh wow......were those guys ignorant or what? I wish people would learn to just shut up and listen once in a while. Good Lord they were annoying.

[@dagencarter8285]

Jello for Mayor

[@isaacortiz7338]

The snake eating its tail.

[@FearAndLoathing122]

He doesn't even realize he just told one of the godfathers of punk "fuck you". Oh man, if this was '83, I believe there would have been an ass kicking.

[@milascave2]

Jellos would not have called for one.

[@havicmyers7011]

I love Jello, no fucking PC for him, just raw honesty, in your face.

[@dyslexiaman15]

Nathaniel Myers Ya, and the guy yelling at him saying Jello is "racist" is a classic example of this dogshit PC movement; basically just ignorance trying pass itself off as intellect and not even bothering to listen to thought, reason, or facts.

[@russbrown8220]

Leftist idiot is all i see.

[@israelacosta4096]

Is no one going to mention all of the dead Kennedy songs playing in the Backround? For all you known punk rock listeners dead kennedys was a punk band from the late 70s early 80s. The man in the video (jello) was the lead singer for the band.

[@JelloFluoride]

* Massive sigh

[@maxellfostex]

This video is exactly the problem with Occupy. You wanna hit the street with peoples voices united but then you realize your at a Limp Bizkit concert.

[@alexloomis2398]

Fucking identity politics as usual.

[@BillGoose1313]

The "powers that be" know that whenever an "occupy" type movement starts, all they have to do is sit tight and give it time to fizzle out. "Occupy" was started with good intentions and it became nothing more than another not-for-profit franchise. Americans cannot affect change in their own county. When it happens in other countries we applaud it but we're too lazy to work on it here. Americans are all too worried about losing their 401K or messing up their Credit Score...

[@alexfatt7418]

listen at around 3:52 Jello Biafra explains it simplistically and concisely

[@deanpd3402]

“The greatest change we need to make is from consumption to production, even if on a small scale, in our own gardens. If only 10% of us do this, there is enough for everyone. Hence the futility of revolutionaries who have no gardens, who depend on the very system they attack, and who produce words and bullets, not food and shelter.”

[@Dannyvirk]

Those black dudes made what was IMHO a very valid point at the end of the clip, privatization is the end of the good days.

[@rmrm1002]

The black guy said it all when he interrupted with every time it’s a black man they say something and blame him.... he’s only worried about color he’s not looking for results! Should never be about color it should be about actions just simply keep it to following their actions then make your opinion

[@nelsonr12]

Jello criticizes Obama, the fist thing he hears back is "Dont blame the black man." Jello never mentioned his race. Why does the black man jump one race card so quick?

[@GEORGEZNEMETH]

+nelsonr12 Convenience.

[@nelsonr12]

It does seem like that. Why debate with logic when you can just use a red harring

[@robertharrison7161]

+nelsonr12 A history of degradation and oppression at the hands of white people because of the color of your skin, and the resulting current position of your people as an underclass as a result of this history, will do that to you (i.e. make you jump to the race card a little too quickly).

[@jtucker813]

+Robert Harrison and because of people like you with that kind of piss poor mentality, things will never get better

[@robertharrison7161]

+Dave Obsessed how is it a piss poor mentality? how does having this "mentality" make it so that things won't change?

[@dgholmz]

With the exception of Ron Paul who's record of defending the constitution speaks for itself.

[@brianmushrush5870]

What jello said had nothing to do with racism. it's black people acting like that that's keeping racism alive today.

[@youthfulcurmudgeon3627]

People need to do this to jello more often.

[@sloppygran]

1:42 soooooo ignorant, aaahhhhh, my brain hurts. Make him stop!!

[@The_PainofBeingAMan]

No way this should have been flagged as spam. Great comment. Biafra is a smart guy but I think he was off base about Ron Paul as well.

[@bozokarl]

It can't possibly be Obama's fault. Black people never do anything wrong. Just ask Al or Jessie.

[@HipsterEatinShark]

How about actually showing the conversation instead of cutaways to DK songs and stock footage of cops in order to look cool?

[@arsumbris6392]

It's bizzare watching people Biafra's age cling to their political assumptions in the face of these kinds of experiences. I guess once you dig yourself deep enough, you can't climb back out. You've been in it too long, you made it your career, you'll never learn from the experimental data in the field.

[@colico14]

"There are none so blind as those who will not see. The most deluded people are those who choose to ignore what they already know."

[@Dulceria_La_Princesita]

No better way to learn about demographics and ethnocentrism, eh Jello? Hahahhahhahhahhaaahhahhahhahah.... HA!

[@youthfulcurmudgeon3627]

LOL And yet he's still blind to it!

[@SamShadow93]

In Jello We Trust

[@erikberry6408]

Exactly why he's an idiot for sticking up for these animals as they pull out his soapbox from underneath him.

[@youthfulcurmudgeon3627]

Yep. Doesn't seem like they appreciate his efforts all that much, now do they? Lol.

[@Leftovervictim1991]

@akmckeever1 Nah, Ron Paul is fighting for Liberty and for working class americans. when i say Ron Paul 2012!, im saying END THE FED, END THE WARS, END BIG GOVERNMENT, RESTORE LIBERTY AND PEACE!

[@riveselliot]

Just wait til they hear that hard n-bomb in Holiday in Cambodia

[@saguarosamsrecordroundup8660]

Context and comprehension is everything here.

[@locksmithdb5987]

Those "nice people" that interrupted Jello, are the Fucking Problem!

[@locksmithdb5987]

Bragging that you know how the brothers fear the cold and the slum's got so much soul.

[@glenbellefonte9620]

Yeah, those are quite right lyrics. We have a compelled speech moment.

[@mikekomalley]

hahaha This is funny because Jello is not used to being unrecognized. I feel for him. He led this cause decades ago.He ran for SF mayor! Then some New Jacks jump up and disrespect him because of his race (admit it). Poor Jello. Nobody knows him anymore!

[@MrDGW1]

Jello's way off here about Ron Paul and I imagine it's his own blind allegiance to partisan politics I guess. I have to cut him a lot of slack because I think Jello "get's" quite a bit and with what may be my favorite punk album, Plastic Surgery Disasters on the books, it frankly surprises me he's seemingly missed Ron Paul's message. I don't see how though, it confuses me. It's almost like Jello's losing it as he gets older, even though Paul is in his 70's and hasn't skipped a beat.

[@dandyandy2046]

Those guys don't know what the hell they are talking about! They just want to start a fight. That's too bad. Listen to what Jello is saying!

[@starvingbuddha7622]

A house divided cannot stand... so keep em divided

[@Laura-kg9le]

these guys won't listen which is unfortunate, all of these people marching together yet so divided

[@timinbisbee]

Jello, thank you for the memories, Thank you For letting me know that their were others like us.

[@glenbellefonte9620]

Idiots?

[@soulmusic9991]

liberal golden rule number one - Do as they say, not as they do.

[@dylanvalesco1538]

I think people forget Obama his half white.

[@milascave2]

The thing is, most ciriticism of Obama, the ones we hear the most from, DOES come from racists, So then, the burden is on those who are ciritical of his policies, not his race, to make that distinction very clear. It is a hard thing to follow, but it must be done. However, a lot more African Americans are over Obama than in 2011. But make no mistake, they do NOT dislike him for the same reasons that the right wingers dislike him. It's called nuance.

[@youthfulcurmudgeon3627]

Another fact twisting liberal idiot.

[@danbam3411]

What the fuck are you going on about, dumbass.

[@flapjackhank222]

This is a great video of different groups of people who are voicing their opinion about different subjects. I have read that Jello has a lot of experience in public speaking so he doesn't seem to have any problem with just listening to the black speakers say their part. There is no division between he and the other speakers. It seems to my eyes that the two groups are just talking about different parts of our presidential administration's public perception (ie.) the black man speaking and his description of the first black president being blamed for the country's previous economic difficulties. Thank you for engaging with the interview and speaking your mind. The gathering of people to assemble and address our nation's leaders is the real goal that we have.

[@locksmithdb5987]

Wow! San Francisco sucks!

[@thomassterrett1905]

Is the DK music supposed to hide the a$$ beating Jello is getting from some of the people that he claims he wants to help?

[@SiiriCressey]

When I voted in the last presidential election, it wasn't so much for Barack as it was against the man who casually repeatedly insulted me and pretty much everyone I know.

[@brendalacy4564]

First of all the 2 black men that interrupt need to shut the beep up, NOBODY ASKED YOU GUYS ANYTHING! DIDNT YOUR MOM TEACH YOU ANY MANNERS! Second THANK YOU JB, for doing what you do. I know you have been speaking out about government for as long as I can remember( I'm 54). I love the way you do it and I will keep listening and doing what I can, you inspire me and I appreciate all of your efforts, attention to speaking true and proud, and your energy. Say it sing it never stop never surrender keep fighting for real freedom for justice and for peace!!!

[@ThisIsHe11]

You nailed it right on the head. People think they're going to make a difference by voting, but do you really think the top 1% are going to let anyone grab power from them that easily? Come on. The rich look out for the rich, which is why shit like political parties, racism, social stratas, etc. are created - so we fight amongst ourselves instead of organizing and addressing the real issue at hand: income inequality.

[@glenbellefonte9620]

Races is created by forcing different races to live together.

[@mrquicky]

Now I understand why occupy isn't going anywhere. Very eye-opening.

[@NickB1967]

I *like* Holiday In Cambodia, but so many of his other songs are sadly the other way.

[@frankblackcat]

I'm sure he won't be too worried about that.

[@tsconn23]

Look, I am about as far from Biafra's politics and philosophy as one can be but he gets this right. I have no idea at all why Leftists in this country think Obama has their best interests in mind.

[@tweakradje]

Privatising as he called it for certain (public) services is devastating. Privatising means going commercial, and going commercial means profits. Getting profits is cutting on non profitable areas of the service. That means your post will come only a month, the bus will not pass your doorstep anymore, train tables will shrink and you will have to pay more for health care. Privatising also means attracting top level management costing fortunes on salary, bonus and expenses. Capable or not, they will remain seated, just like the political establishment. No strategic vision, only quick short term (stock) money to enrich themselves even more. Do they ever think about their childrens future? Punk in the eighties was a counter movement against these uber-capitalists. It won't be long before the people of our countries will have enough of this.

[@masso163]

Howard Zinn is a genius who knows what he's talking about. He concisely makes the same point that Biafra makes. That we need to fight and demonstrate and not give up until we live in a fair system. Yes, Obama inherited a lot of his problems, including an inequity of rich/poor and class issues, so did every other president that has ever sat in office. That's the way this country was founded. Things need to change, regardless of who are past, current or future leaders are.

[@glenbellefonte9620]

The miserab;e ;eft always use the "inherited" bs.

[@1234Molotov]

Agreed. That guy rejects all criticism of Obama simply because he's black, although they might sing a different tune if they knew about Biafra.

[@globalchaos1984]

So what system do you propose?

[@churchandmarket6381]

where is this

[@ddei989]

1:42 Oh, why hello there nose.

[@chizorama]

Here in 2024 it becomes apparent that the man at the end of the video talking about privatizing nailed it.

[@WeDwellinaFiefdom]

"as soon as we get in a black man in office" Yeah, this is a step towards equality so only a black man can create change, all I can say is, education is a great thing to have. Schools should start having mandatory common sense classes

[@soltemple389]

The fact that a black man was in office got a lot of peoples' hope up in general. So why did we wait to do this all over the country till Obama was president? Because their spirits were lifted to some degree in the first place; enough to want more changes! While I agree with what some people were saying, they clearly misunderstood Jello. Blah, blah, blah, I won't bore you anymore with familiar context. I've already spent enough time online.

[@synholiday]

As much as I despise the Republican party, at least they stick to their principles, I don't see them sudeenly taking an anti-war, anti-corporate welfare, anti-Gitmo stance just because Obama can outright be accused of it.

[@Taco_Raider]

Lawdy, lawdy, LAWDY! Holy mackerel!

[@IcarusLime]

Lol, sometimes you just want to smack a pedestrian and be like "I'M ON YOUR FUCKING SIDE, MAN!!!"

[@glenbellefonte9620]

They don't want to be on whitey's side. Don't you people get it?

[@Yostuba]

just out of curiosity who's the old guy

[@frjc2052]

Thank you, Brett...Jello is not racist. People who claim racism many times are making an excuse for their own failings. His drummer in DK is "D.H. Peligro" I wish I could say that the reason I am not a billionaire is because of the color of my skin or where I was born...#1 Carlos Slim Helu is Mexican. #7 Eike Batista...Brazilian. #9... Li Ka-shing...Chinese Only 3 of the top 10 are American... Work your ass off every day...then if you don't succeed...then you can claim the world is racist.

[@SgtMustang]

They're opposed to the extreme wealth inequality, at least that's the impression I get.

[@beehead5661]

Jello is a Saint

[@masso163]

The argument is that Obama is a politician. He may be better than most, but he still has ties to big business and has his political cronies that he looks out for and tries to further their ends. The fact that he's black doesn't change that. Yes, hopefully a black president shows that we as a country are moving socially forward, but that's not a reason to stop fighting for acting for greater change. Arguing amongst ourselves instead of against the political machine hurts us all.

[@cerebralcaustic]

'Saying no to the banks' LOL 😂 everyone's lining up for credit card rewards points and thinking their FICO scores are important

[@sloanmidwestXTC]

Yes, I don't see anything at all wrong with Ron Paul. Even in issues where I disagree with him, he is all about letting small (state) gov'ts take control of their own problems instead of federal control over everything. I am voting for Ron Paul this year.

[@caitlinvaleska7246]

LOL. Racecard backfire. Jello was having flashbacks to when he got his ass beat too.

[@techroach6343]

Pharma shill.

[@SamShadow93]

I believe in everything the occupy movement stands for. It's like Letterman said at the beginning of this video; Demonstration and protesting are the only way things will ever change in this country, because it's certainly not getting done in Washinton DC. A man on the street has a powerful voice. Let's band together and utilize it !!!

[@brandonwright48]

Did these black guys do the subtitles too?

[@MalaklypsetheElder]

One book I wish everyone could read is Listen Little Man! by Wilhelm Reich, a book where he disassembles the odd psychological trait we have for hero and leader worship, a trait that ultimately has lead every time to our enslavement, mentally or psychically. Holding one person up as a idol or leader who will save all our problems is the modern equivalent to manifest right to rule, and we may as well start calling Presidents kings again and believing they were chosen by God to rule over us.

[@LucisFerre1]

This just highlights how stupid Letterman really is. He's glad and happy people are demonstrating...although he has no idea what ideas they're pushing, what they're disrupting or why.

[@flavoredwallpaper]

You invalidated whatever argument you had when you used the term "Jewish left"

[@sloanmidwestXTC]

What are you saying? Ron Paul is only there to benefit Romney? Please elaborate what you mean by controlled opposition.

[@SgtMustang]

I think it's very divided, I think that OWS doesn't represent a clear goal as much as it does a society just pissed off with the way things are going. A representation of the "Mad as hell" speech from network.

[@JelloFluoride]

The cheese is always twice the fencepost.

[@slayertheprayer1]

I just lost a whole lot of respect for Jello here. The fact that he lumped Ron Paul together with Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh shows he knows next to nothing about the man and is merely regurgitating somebody else's opinions. Ron Paul has been calling out the criminals in DC, the Federal Reserve, Wall Street, the military industrial complex, and the prison system for what they are since the 70's. Paul was one of the few who warned of the Housing crisis years before it happened.

[@GriefTourist]

what? holiday in cambodia is the most anti communist song you can think of