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Welcome to the Jenna & Julien Podcast where we talk about all the things. If you are looking for your everyday, normal, by the book podcast, then you're in the wrong place. We created this because we tend to have awesome, random, and sometimes drunk conversations that we realized had to be shared with the lovely internet world. So here we are.
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[@scientificsantonian1240]

My conspiracy theory: Jenna's rogue strand of hair on the top of her head in this video may actually be some sort of a receptor so as to communicate with some higher being/ppl who probably are feeding her all this info. WHAT U HIDING BOIII

[@soda_fairy]

hahaha

[@summervance3455]

Scientific Santonian yaaasssss 😂😂😂

[@shararose7945]

Lmaoooo

[@lchap619]

😅😅😅😅😅 I laughed so hard at this, I scared my cat. Lol

[@daniellebutz7555]

truuuu

[@maneater]

Jenna, don't ever apologize for being too excited to talk about a topic. It makes listening to the facts and information much more enjoyable and entertaining when you're into what you're talking about.

[@bomethia7412]

AlexisTheHipsta 1k likes with no reply? Weird, but also I agree!

[@maneater]

@@bomethia7412 // i returned to this video to refresh my memory on the baconian theory and just noticed how many likes this comment has. i didn't even know lol. so strange.

[@awesome5657blink]

@@bomethia7412 mllllll

[@yokoabe684]

@@maneater はじさきさろ。ろさろろららるるらかくわらせら？らら、るさそら

[@makenziebaker4342]

@@bomethia7412 my I m mom mom mom I’m mohmoo Bc junk jobless in l ok ok I’m lol ok lol lol lol k ok I’ll ok NHL lol l I’ll l lol I’ll lol l ok ok I’ll l ok l lol l ok Il I lmk lmk Llllll I’ll lll lol l lol I’ll ll I’m I’m ok I’ll m I’ll I’ll ok k I’ll kk I’ll

[@janep1072]

The stickers on their laptops are so Aries VS Virgo 😂

[@bruhnowhat6412]

Trueeeee

[@cchsmcbennett]

lol my computer is covered in stickers on the cover. Not a single space isn't covered...yes I am an Aries as well. xD

[@animeangel2034]

@@cchsmcbennett My laptop is like Juliens, but with like 10 times more stickers...I'm a Pisces though! Lol!

[@victoriabryer4710]

I have some stickers but I'm a Sagittarius so.

[@CityKanin]

Mine are colour-coded and symmetrically arranged by theme. I'm a gemini 😂

[@mandyelliott2676]

“NASA is like ‘hey let’s go take some pictures of the moon’ and the Military is like ‘LETS GO TAKE SOME PICTURES OF THE MOON” 💀 I can’t

[@Raydowi]

I need the conspiracy theory for why Kermit cries all the time.

[@smdesserts]

stress

[@bubblesspongey]

PTSD

[@bee7514]

the government took over Julien's body and transferred Juliens brain and soul into Kermit. Kermit cries because he wants Jenna to notice and help.

[@jazzblackwell6142]

chickain

[@ashleystadlman2371]

Goodmorning Kermit !

[@iron343]

You are giving me a podcast that is an hour and a half long where Jenna and Julien talk about conspiracy theories? Why is God so good to me.

[@user-kv7pr7xs6k]

Ikr

[@Miz_britt5]

And on the first day of school for most people!! so blessed.

[@iron343]

Brittany Ward YES! Utterly blessed

[@Hydratiun]

Hour and twenty mins tbh

[@Al_graf]

I love your vids so much

[@liseleduc9404]

jenna, if you ever get sick of KZbin be a teacher or a professor. you're good at explaining things

[@liseleduc9404]

also my grandfather is a Freemason, it's super creepy and weird

[@mollyh1788]

+lise leduc oh that's really interesting

[@finaljamm]

Agreed she would be a great teacher.

[@greenmatrix30seven]

couldnt agree more

[@chelset1909]

Agreed... I could totally see you teaching college classes. And you have a masters degree so you don't need to go back and do education courses. 👍

[@AmiMichelle]

Me 20 minutes ago: Maybe I’ll watch some KZbin Me now: Shakespeare was a fraud

[@AmiMichelle]

ME NOW: THERE IS A FUCKING DRAGON ON THE MOON

[@emmamcd2392]

I have not yet watched this but oh boy am I excited for this

[@sammyhourston-quirk9980]

Jenna's intelligence is so under appreciated, it's so impressive, I'm an English historian and listening to the extent of her understanding is crazy, she's such an incredible person. Serious respect to her ❤️

[@sindycarolina2722]

Sammy Hourston-Quirk seriously!!! I love how into it she gets and truly understands what she's talking about and Julien is all like... "........ Ok" lol.

[@superdooper1830]

Her history facts enter and leave my brain at the same time. I'm more of an emotional intelligence kinda person haha, but I can appreciate the level of knowledge!

[@Mroof-zk2of]

I love how only girls replied to this. I'm pretty sure y'all are all feminist.

[@superdooper1830]

Mr.oof Mm mhm, that’s what you got from this? Get a fucking life dude. Sounds like you’re the one that has a problem with women. Bye.

[@Mroof-zk2of]

tanwastaken Well that was quick but feminist are know to comment fast

[@melimendoza7010]

The strand of hair poking out of the top of Jenna's head and how it seems to wiggle or stand straight up depending on how hard she's trying to convince Julien about something adds a lot to this video.

[@Avamm]

Omg I love this

[@clarehoward1400]

I don't think anyone will care BUT the reason the Titanic sank is BECAUSE it was such a clear night (this is in response to Julien saying that there's no way the captain couldn't see the iceberg because it was such a clear night, as recorded in history). The captain and the two lookouts couldn't distinguish between where the water stopped and the sky started because the horizon meshed as a result of the reflection of the stars on the still water. This created an optical illusion that made everything look like the stars and created this weird mental veil, hence why the lookouts could only see the iceberg when it was right in front of the ship. They tried to turn but ended up scraping the side of the ship. If the boat hadn't turned, the ship and its passengers (most, anyway) would have survived, because the ship was STATE OF THE ART for its time. The front of the boat was prepared for such a collision. There are records of many people saying that it was such a clear night and that the horizon could not be distinguished because the stars never stopped going. I think this is really interesting and should be noted.

[@nocturne2029]

yeah clear nights and calm waters to that extend are kind of a nightmare for sailors, beyond what you mentioned it's also hard to see icebergs because there are no whitecaps at the base from waves hitting it.

[@Bubble170]

Turning was the right move. The impact of hitting an iceberg would’ve not only thrown the passengers into walls and objects without their control, it would’ve sent reverberations down the entire length of the ship and likely ripping the Rivets etc. Which would expose more compartments to the sea, sinking it faster. The front of the ship was built to stand impacts against other boats, not an iceberg. Icebergs are nowhere near as malleable as metal. There’s a very slight chance the ship would’ve floated for longer, but more people would’ve died from being flung around the boat, and ramming into what is essentially solid rock at 22 knots is a RIDICULOUS idea.

[@bryannaruggiero1502]

super cool to think about only seeing a veil of stars in the middle of the ocean

[@whitykitty2651]

According to the theory tho, do u guys know if it was the titanic or the Olympic (according to the theory not what is believed originally)?

[@Bubble170]

bluebehr this doesn’t make sense. It’s a theory. Nobody knows the truth that’s the POINT of the word *theory*

[@sierram6632]

Here just rewatching old videos hoping Jenna still watches ancient aliens in her leisure suit. Hope she’s just happy and healthy and living her best life.

[@charlietheory4100]

Same.

[@kennedygodwin6718]

Same.

[@PabloBablo41]

I miss her so much but her well-being is more important to me than my own entertainment 😌

[@danniamendoza9260]

Crying

[@shelbyfoster2663]

this❤️

[@ebonyallen8211]

Let's all appreciate Jenna's ponytail's unicorn horn.

[@patriciaaponte3682]

I know it's so interesting watching it moving around w her head

[@alexizzzleee]

*tries to fall asleep* *watches all the conspiracy theory podcasts*

[@panicatthejoeygraceffa7793]

lol gl

[@fckingawful]

how can you fall asleep when you're being woken up by all these conspiracy theories

[@notyouraveragemillennial9246]

Alexis C how can you fall asleep when you getting woke

[@alexizzzleee]

NotYourAverageMillennial you just blew my fucking mind

[@sydneywhite6637]

Alexis C Yeah Dear Jenna and Julien, please do a conspiracy involving I'm Poppy, Titanic Sinclair and Mars Argo. They and were on KZbin. All of a Sudden, after a cryptic message from Mars Argo; concerning all her fans and breaking up with her boyfriend Titanic Sinclair, she falls off the face of the Earth. Please do!

[@kristinagaumnitz1352]

100% believe that William Shakespeare was not the actual writer of the plays. However, I have never heard about the Bacon theory but it is interesting. One of the main things that convinced me while taking a mythology class is my professor has studied the writings of Shakespeare and studied the inaccuracies of Shakespeare's upbringing and the way he actually wrote. Like in the Rape of Lucrece, Shakespeare describes the room where Lucrece was raped in great detail and the room is an actual room in Italy, but the thing is Shakespeare supposedly never really traveled around and there would have been no way he could describe the room in such detail unless he had seen it which doesn't correlate with his timeline or his background.

[@alexia3552]

Kristina Gaumnitz oh that’s so fascinating

[@YayMiko]

He could have just spoken to/asked someone who had been there. Good writers research what they’re writing about. Maybe there was a painting of that or a similar room.

[@real_twooping]

Whenever Jenna said "Francis Bacon" all I could think about is that Reddit post from years ago, which I saw on tumblr, of some kid thinking "Francis Bacon" was actually "France is bacon" as part of the quote "Knowledge is power" lmao

[@martynkal.1248]

Oh my god THROWBACK

[@junegibbons4633]

Jenna: Laughs at the idea of technology slowing down, but thinks there's a DRAGON on the moon. I love it.

[@Audb-sp3ye]

June Gibbons Jjdjdjhggdvddd##vhdhei3u33hh3euejeieindhddhhhdhdhddhejjeuj

[@Mae-yt2jp]

Jul: So he was a powerful guy? Jen: WELL YEAH, HE WAS THE LORD CHANCELLOR

[@crycowgirlcry]

I dont even know what a lord chancellor is so I totally get julien

[@hs-ei]

as i non american and potentially a dum person what does lord chancellor mean?

[@halatiny6537]

@@hs-eijust a title of power they used back then she mentions he’s a lawyer and stuff etc so they had funny names for people like that back then.

[@smasshton]

I really enjoy how the other person just automatically plays the Devils advocate because it really highlights the problems with the theory

[@jesskateb]

yes! I love hey they aren't both informed of all of them prior to the podcast. it makes it much more interesting.

[@angiet7380]

Yeah me too, and no feelings get hurt either (maybe I just go to a high school with a very immature demographic, but it's just so rare for me to see communication as open as theirs)

[@allisonselman9175]

+Angie T I'm in college and I go to a really open minded school (we are religiously founded but not a religious school if that makes sense?) but most people aren't able to converse as openly as these two. Their relationship is beyond words

[@unickwilliams1283]

Had the same thought.

[@angel-gu8co]

omfg true i didn't know how to word this but i was thinking that

[@bdianew02]

I know I’m years late but are you telling me Francis bacon is the Miley and Shakespeare is the Hannah Montana 👌🏻

[@alexisbruton3689]

Bailey West yes

[@Iamandrey]

Yes William Shakespeare is literally Hannah Montana

[@exosvocals2526]

Oh snap

[@kliizco]

Nope, cause both Hannah and Miley are the same person. "Hannah Montana" was just Miley's alter-ego. Shakespeare and Bacon are two different people. Bacon was the ghost author actually responsible for Shakespeare's works according to this theory.

[@Adelemec]

Knowledge is power, France is bacon.

[@strawbabbie]

Adelemec that’s exactly what I thought of too

[@sethmarquez6076]

Adelemec I’m moved by your insight.

[@ALI-rk8xk]

😂😂😂

[@PoopSquares]

Adelemec Write a book.

[@Sam-xr8ne]

Paris-ites.

[@gavinrodgers3003]

Jenna is so educated and it’s clear to see in everything she is aware of. Very well rounded beech😩💕

[@jrw2319]

“They’d just throw a tracker on each boat.” I have witnessed my first Julien Segway and I feel great

[@smallmoon80085]

Corrupt Pastels me too!!

[@amandalewellen9281]

IT HAS BEEN OVER 2 YEARS SINCE YALL HAVE GRACED THE WORLD WITH CONSPIRACIES! PLEASE FIX THIS ASAP

[@lindsaynicole8967]

Yeah I wanna know the one Julien decided not to share!! & I'm sure Jenna has found some more good ones since!

[@Zessa]

i love how both of you are really trying your best to understand each other

[@kenleyeverett9211]

I'm trying to fall asleep while watching this, but how can you fall asleep once you have become *woke*

[@NixxiStorm]

Kenley Everett i keep closing my eyes but my third eye is open AF

[@adondon5774]

I was asleep just binging Jenna/the jnj podcast and her conspiracy about Shakespeare worked it’s way into my dream and I swear I like woke up *twice*

[@stephaniesanjuan5481]

Me rn at 3:53 am rip

[@WolfDLuna]

Or when the dogs keep scratching at the door XD

[@LadyHarley]

Kenley Everett how can you fall asleep with paranoia fuel like this

[@janep1072]

Aries: "Know the law." Virgo: "Know the inner workings of the court."

[@stevenrangel3487]

As an Aries sun and Virgo moon, know what's given, and how it falls in justice.

[@Mr2Reviews]

Talks about conspiracy theories about the government tracking us. Sponsored by Tracker.

[@mildreddavis1684]

And the fact that CT was coined by the CIA after Kennedy was 'quieted'. They even wrote about the techniques to apply *** Research Kennedy's last speech about secret societies on KZbin

[@deepseasnailfish]

I was gunna fall asleep to this but I can't because now I'm woke af

[@deepseasnailfish]

DeadKing66 I haven't slept in 9 months I'm so woke

[@honeypipe]

I've only watched a handful of her podcasts but she's consistently spitting accurate shit

[@Burzum831]

Tricky Peebs lol good joke.

[@orlaithmeehan9940]

KeyToTheGate 831 why do people not listen to women's opinions on this shit

[@cassidym9447]

Shakespeare wrote about his second best bed because his first was his death bed

[@madi62323]

This is the most underrated comment omg

[@chantellshriver]

Super poetic. Shakespeare was Shakespeare confirmed

[@sophiayou5634]

I always thought it was because his first was the one they would always use in the guest room.

[@y6048]

same

[@manana4202]

it was actually because the first best bed was for the guests and the second best was the bed him and his wife slept in... actually pretty sweet if you think about it

[@kckay5214]

I think the Titanic conspiracy is worth more research. Julien was thrown off, understandably, but the theory is that the Olympic was sunk, under the name of the Titanic, but that the Titanic never left the dock. Because the boats were so similar looking, people had no idea at the time that they were actually boarding the Olympic, with the goal being to sink the Olympic for insurance money and to start over building a new ship, while they also still had the Titanic, a brand new ship being disguised as the Olympic. If you look at old pictures of the ships, you can tell that the ship that left under the disguise of the Titanic was actually the Olympic. There is just so much to know about this theory!

[@luxlisbon2727]

KC Kay lmao i know i’m 7 months late, but how did the olympic move without a propeller?

[@pogpogpurinn]

@@luxlisbon2727 i wonder if they said that they lost the propellor so that people would believe it was the titanic as the olympic didnt have a propellor, but it really did and so was able to disguise itself, you know? This whole thing just feels so off, like the titanics story is still unknown and i believe this theory as it makes SO much sense, as when you hear the original titanic story, theres so many questions left unanswered

[@nancyflynn4755]

KC Kay I believe Shane Dawson did a conspiracy theory on the Titanic, I would highly suggest looking into it. There was tons of great information

[@meadowfrance]

I feel like he explained all that, and I understood what he was getting at. I think Jenna didn't understand that in this theory the Olympic was never really out of commission because of a propeller (something that would be repairable) but that they just said that it was broken so that nobody would suspect that they were actually boarding the Olympic.

[@jo1na1na1]

Thank you for this comment because julian was confusing me as well so thanks to your comment I was able to do my own research. Definitely interesting.

[@emmamb9747]

Jenna - you are so amazingly beautiful and clever. Julien - you are uplifting and you and so inspirational. You guys make me so fucking happy every single day.

[@emmamb9747]

you also make me laugh every day - to the point where my friends think I'm insane every time I have headphones in😂

[@ElpSmith]

Same.

[@angiet7380]

Why doesn't Julien get a compliment on his aesthetic? Because he's well aware of his hotness :3

[@emilymorales6580]

I couldn't possibly agree more

[@fabihaazim7663]

AGREEEEEDD

[@quigli]

From what I know of the Titanic/Olympic conspiracy, the people all boarded the Olympic, which had been re-painted so the name said Titanic.... They crashed the shitty ship, collected the insurance money, and kept the new ship (the real Titanic). I saw (possibly in one of Shane's videos but I'm not sure) that when they found the wreck of the "Titanic" there was a potion of the hull found where some of the painted letters from the original name, "Olympic," are visible. Also, pictures of the "Titanic" as it was about to set sail show it having 16 portholes, not 14 (which Julien started to bring up, but forgot to actually mention) Apparently all of the REALLY high-up rich people that had tickets for the voyage were informed of this, as they all cancelled their plans and did not board the ship.

[@gen_irl1514]

But how did the Olympic get that far without the propellor?

[@jessika702]

MaybeFN2187 It is said that when both ships were docked in Belfast (the damaged Olympic was out of commission & the Titanic, newly built awaiting it's maiden voyage) & that is when the switch took place. They replaced Olympics broken propeller blade with Titanic's working propeller blade & swapped the names of the ship. There's a really interesting documentary on KZbin that explains everything. It's about 45 mins long but definitely worth a watch if you have any interest in the Titanic or conspiracy theories. :)

[@KeaLynn]

Jessika Whitlock why not say the name of the Netflix documentary?

[@jessika702]

Kea Lynn It's not a Netflix documentary, it's on KZbin. just search "Titanic Conspiracy" & you'll find it..

[@kiranbrar4963]

Tasha Storm I

[@hannahmorgan644]

Seeing “5 years ago” totally didn’t break my heart on this college finals week night

[@Cordial009]

I love when jenna rambles yet julien looks so bored while im just like yass golden dragon XD

[@sliponchoos]

I would shake him, i feel like he's not paying attention to her

[@shmoopyshmoop8324]

+Lluvia Trejo I feel like he is just trying to focus and understand. i don't think he would ask questions or be like "I don't understand this" or "what about this" if he wasn't really interested.

[@svinjamaria]

tyler taplin I honestly think he looks pretty untuned into what she's saying, that's just his face lol

[@damnitjanet9724]

tyler taplin Jenna Rambles

[@marissabrown7440]

zllx6 ? 0

[@ATOMICxCIMOTA]

man that Dragon is just trying to rave it the fuck up on the moon

[@ariannam6794]

Jenna The lecture you're referring to for your Shakespeare conspiracy might be from Jim Marrs' lecture on Ancient Aliens and the New World Order. It's on Hulu right now! 😁

[@utterlyjulia]

I've been searching for anyone who answered for this. Thank you!

[@shayrae8080]

Julia Kane thank you!!! Been scrolling for foreverrrr

[@arianametz433]

get out of my name

[@heaatherable]

I didnt see the Shakespeare conspiracy theory in that lecture,

[@kaitlynyeager4392]

Arianna M onimon kmn I

[@weetziebat6643]

When I’m feeling sad, I rewatch all the podcasts and Jenna videos and it instantly makes me feel better. Thank you both for everything. You make the world shine brighter

[@PastelOverlord]

Same :c

[@jilyvanily]

me too :)

[@sarahwilliams213]

Just something interesting: There are several accounts of authenticated autographs of Shakespeare and it's true that he spelled his name differently every time. While this may cause people to think he was illiterate, it is important to note, however, that the English spelling system was not yet regulated and many people would spell their names differently every time they wrote it. It was a common thing (according to my English professors). So that does not necessarily point to illiteracy. Jenna didn't suggest he was illiterate because of this, but some people do, so I thought I'd throw it out there.

[@caitlin329]

Yeah, a lack of historical understanding and anachronism have a lot to answer for with a lot of 'conspiracy theories'

[@TheStephParry]

Julien's "Well, fuck" reaction at 55:17 is me throughout this entire video

[@Essephant]

Stephanie Parry 8

[@sailorstevens]

everyone else is like “I make potatoes”

[@zarazen8110]

and I am the potato 🥔

[@clairefmack]

Me

[@spiced_chai]

"It wasn't just NASA being like 'hmm we want some pictures of the moon,' it was the military being like 'LET'S GO GET SOME PICTURES OF THE MOON.' you know what I mean?" honestly iconic

[@JessicaHill]

I studied the authorship controversy in high school and college, and I want to talk to Jenna about this so much!

[@caitlin329]

@@triplechocolate way more 'theories' than just the Bacon one. Marlowe etc.

[@M00NdaYn]

Jenna's stray bit of hair standing up on her head. LOL

[@kajsahayes5496]

It is an independent women

[@M00NdaYn]

kajsahayes Who don't need no hairspray! BOOOIII

[@hannahmorgan644]

IT DISTRACTED ME THE ENTIRE TIME OMG

[@nutmeg13sm]

We should name it

[@nutmeg13sm]

Can we name it Pam? Or Beyonce?

[@linkyloo1370]

Also the clementine thing, since the ballistic missile group or what ever is involved, isn’t it very possible that maybe it’s a weapon of mass destruction on the moon?

[@articunomaster1]

Julia Krevis this is a late response i know but i'm rewatching this podcast and went to look up clementine..... the "dragon" DEFINITELY looks more like a missile to me than anything else. i would buy that theory a lot more.

[@lunarlaura1]

Just started watching your guys podcasts, AND I CAN'T BELIEVE I HADN'T SEEN THESE EARLIER!!! soooooo gooood!!!

[@karisgreen1009]

same!!

[@annafrazier4274]

Laura Tarbay ikr

[@bridgetd.6395]

dink dink

[@dom8110]

I was gonna go to bed but how can I sleep when I'm being woke?

[@strawberryairy]

haha same

[@mollyrideout5459]

woke af

[@jeskaisthebest]

Such a good comment 👏🏼

[@jayjay8743]

😂😂😂

[@GoJoLy2301]

Or scared to death 😵😳

[@Amalthya]

Titanic was always set out to sink! From what I know, White Star Line was commissioned building of Olympic and Titanic was her sister ship. But as Julien rightly mentioned it was a massive insurance scam. The events weren’t laid out clearly. When Olympic had a collision with ‘The hulk’ a war ship, its central propellers were damaged it tilted towards the left. But because they lost the lawsuit they wouldn’t get the funds to repair Olympic or even finish Titanic. Titanic was set to be the biggest commercial ship. Another thing to note was that the ships names weren’t mentioned on the Olympic or the almost complete Titanic, however they were mentioned on few places but these were easily swappable. The insurance guy of the company came up with a plan they fairly repaired the Olympic and because these ships looked very similar they decided to set out Olympic as Titanic. But this didn’t go as planned because while it sank the ship started to drift away from a already assigned recuse ship, therefore, the number of people that died was way more than anticipated. Also, a survivor who was part of the Olympic voyage and Titanic ( Brave soul i may say, who boards a ship company with such a bad reputation ) claimed as the “Titanic” sank it tilted towards the left (like the Olympic). So, in the end this company recovered the money and completed the real Titanic and this ship continued it’s life as the Olympic. So, yeah. Also, Julien and Jenna if guys see this, I really appreciate you two, fam! Also, there are a lot of documentaries on this and a book too, I guess.

[@hyon2441]

This is actually quite believable. I just dont understand why this isnt popular

[@sstephy]

You explained it way better than Julien lol.

[@chrism45]

A bit weak of a theory sounds like it isn't worth it.

[@kapisharamraj418]

👏👏👏

[@cattanic494]

Nonsense! This theory is stupid, if you had any brain cells you would know that

[@ashleynicole018]

20:40 Juliens lost af and just gives up at this point 😂😂 Love this deeper intelligent side of you Jenna! We could talk about this for hours I'm sure

[@gabrielle_holland9960]

I love your podcast! In the future, when you guys take notes and cite websites and stuff, could you put the links in the description box? I would love to look at everything you guys talk about more closely but I can never find them on my own.

[@IamMissPronounced]

gabrielle_holland omg PLEASE. I'm dying for links

[@jazminnicole8085]

“kermit gon’ kermit” i want that on a t shirt lmao 😂

[@meganschave7000]

Jenna: This won't be very long Me: *sees there is 14 minutes left*

[@jennah3862]

Not very long compared to her first 30 minute theory lol

[@Mofasho]

Eh, whatever I don't mind her long conspiracy theories. She gives so much information and really makes sure that we all have a clear understanding of what it's about. And she gives us all perspectives of the theory and opens a discussion to give some opinions. I think it's great! She's very good st delivering information. She's also very smart.

[@SommerKitsuse]

when I tell my mom that I think dragons live on the moon she's gonna turn my internet off LOL

[@Daffelia_1]

I'm on a Jenna Julien conspiracy theory marathon right now...my brain hurts. Love this stuff though!!

[@chanooodle]

VWLovebug93 sameeee!

[@aimeecooper6555]

VWLovebug93 me too! falling down the rabbit hole

[@natalie3568]

Aimeee C got my goggles on... ready to deep dive!

[@fraserpritchard3231]

Same!! Going down the rabbit hole...

[@IamMissPronounced]

TV Rewinds I heard all the theories and I STILL don't believe in it

[@kellenkrupa9061]

3 words. Ancient. Nuclear. Warfare. If you do another conspiracy podcast, please do the conspiracy theory on ancient nuclear warfare! Basically, it proposes that there was previously an advanced human society capable of nuclear warfare that wiped each other out with nuclear bombs. Please go down this rabbit hole.

[@gracejohnson9288]

Kellen Krupa that sounds like the dr Seuss book called the butter war or something like that lol

[@vampire09zy]

"have you ever tried to argue with nasa about why we can't have things?" I died

[@breanne372]

An HOUR into the podcast and PEACH HAS FINALLY BEEN RESCUED 😂

[@mashaalexpotemkin6613]

another thing about the titanic/olympic theory, if you are fortunate enough to find a picture of the titanic on the ocean floor where you can see the windows, you'll notice something. One key difference between the titanic and the olympic is, that the windows on the second or third from the top floor, on the side, are uneven size and are not evenly spaced. Unlike on the titanic where they are all the same size and equal distance from one another. In the pictures of the titanic on the ocean floor, if you look close enough through all the stuff that has grown on the windows, you will notice that they show the olympic characteristic, not the titanic

[@cattanic494]

False, if you look at the Titanic wreck you will see that it all matches the Titanic and not the Olympic

[@nicklehn911]

This video made me feel like I was being watched all day

[@jennamikaela]

FishTales same

[@meredithhunt9113]

stale meme well u r

[@sage.louann]

stale meme I am currently under the blankets being so scared of being watched

[@domenikasoto926]

SAME!

[@novas2905]

Watching conspiracy/ghost podcasts all day while you're completely alone in a reasonably big house isn't good for your sanity at all. I already know I'm gonna have a hard time sleeping tonight if at all, completely alone at home.

[@werebrokenpeoplesm766]

Guys, you should set the next background as guy fieri's face zoomed in.

[@thomassmith6845]

I have to say that is the best recommendation ive ever heard

[@Joojoobeans]

LOL

[@RemyElysee]

Guy fieri with black hair. google it. lol

[@alyssamarieangel7054]

This comment made me so happy

[@emilymadison90]

pls

[@BeeHind]

This is old but if anyone ends up seeing this then whatever, but John Lang the man who was stabbed and died in a fire. There are multiple reports that his home was barricaded from the inside, front door, back door, kitchen windows. He had 3 superficial (not longer than 1.5 inches) stab wounds to the anterior thoracic cage (upper chest) and the only possibly damaging wound would be a slight entry into the heart's right ventricle however it did not go all the way through. The man also had security cameras INSIDE his home, and upon reviewing of the footage, the cameras all stopped recording the day before and in fact showed him the day before holding a kitchen knife, walking to another room. Then shortly after you see him coming to turn off the cameras. I think this was a possible scenario definitely, but in this case this guy was having some insane delusions.

[@bethanydugger1754]

This is al just chilling

[@elizabethw5986]

Hey Jenna and Julien, in one of your conspiracy theories you talked about oak island and the money pit and theres actually a theory that Franics Bacons original plays and everything or evidence that he wrote all the shakespear plays is hidden in the money pit on oak island. Youve come full circle

[@iron343]

I am definitely the one that makes potatoes

[@XOAbbyLivXO]

HAHAHAH same

[@MsElyzsa]

that part made me laugh way too hard ahhaha

[@sarahelizabel]

Hahahahaha 😂

[@iron343]

Omg me too I had to pause the video because I laughed so hard about it

[@gabyarvilla7197]

Same, even trying to understand and follow along with everything they were talking about I was feeling like a dumb dumb potato hahaha

[@Corn22]

I watched a video that stated a theory that there were no trees. like. just 30 meter tall bushes. I believe it

[@eliass-fo4gs]

legit

[@profesorlunatik986]

😂😂 same

[@shanewicher1363]

Can you reply with a link?

[@gracebourget2249]

Link it

[@lovelykay3614]

Screenshot or it didn't happen

[@maddi-son9527]

Did anyone ever find out which Jim Marrs video mentioned the Shakespeare conspiracy theory?

[@emmalime]

4 years later and I've been looking in the comments trying to find an answer to this for 15 minutes

[@_madikorn_]

Honestly 2018 would be the best time to do a pod with Shane

[@sarahcompton5144]

It's so funny how obvious it is that Julien doesn't give a fuck about the Sir Francis Bacon theory lol.

[@KassandraQuiseng]

I honestly think he just didn't understand it and he was trying hard to follow along.

[@teriw7427]

Honestly... even I was struggling, but it was still interesting.

[@violet33itzal]

Sarah Compton his "Okay." voice trying not to sound skeptical so they can move on

[@libbymeadowcroft2836]

Does anyone tho

[@chesirecat1031]

I AM ON THE SIR FRANCIS BACON THEORY THAT IS MY RELIGION NOW

[@freyahaglund816]

Hearing the two last ones, its actually a comfort that i will die sometime

[@estefaniabarajas5899]

same

[@tylercullor5846]

TØP

[@katieparker6679]

right , like that makes me nervous for people that are going to be living later on in the 3000s or something

[@amandasmith1473]

Hi, I just wanted to let you know that you’re kind of confused about the Titanic conspiracy theory. This, incidentally, is one of the few conspiracy theories I actually am apt to buy because it’s not only possible, it actually makes sense. The theory is that the ships were swapped and the ship that crashed was actually the Olympic. The two ships were swapped because the Olympic was basically a useful, uninsurable big tin can at that point. Presenting it as the Titanic meant that not only could they insure it, but they could then sink it, collect the money, and still have a good ship for future sailings. It is well known that the two ships were practically identical. It’s also well known that crew members of the Olympic who transferred to the Titanic mentioned “still” not liking that ship, indicating they may have picked up on the scam. Also, it’s recorded in the inquest hearings after the Titanic sinking that White Star Line executives repeatedly erroneously referred to the Titanic as the Olympic. Part of the theory is also that no one was supposed to die. The Californian, another ship owned by White Star Line, set sail a few days prior to the Titanic with nothing but 2,000 sweaters, blankets, and life jackets on board. This is significant because at the time there was a coal strike. Most ships then were powered with coal. This meant it was very expensive to send a practically empty ship on a cross Atlantic journey and, therefore, made no financial sense. The theory is that the Californian was sent to save the passengers of the Titanic. The captain of the Californian, oddly, once reaching certain coordinates ordered his crew to keep the engines at the ready but to stop the ship He then sat out on the deck and repeatedly asked about red and blue flares. As the theory goes he had been instructed to wait for red and blue flares and respond accordingly to the distress call of them, meaning pick up the Titanic’s passengers. He did eventually see flares in the sky. But they were white. So they did not respond to them, which did not turn out to be the big mistake because the flares he was seeing were actually the flares of the ship of an illegal seal hunting crew calling it’s hunting crews back to the main ship. The crux of where the Titanic/Olympic swap went wrong is that either Captain Smith of the Titanic or the Captain of the Californian got his coordinates mixed up, because the ships were actually 16 miles apart, which is why the captain of the Californian did not see the flares sent off by the Titanic and, therefore, did not respond. This error is what led to the deaths of so many passengers and is where the plan went horribly wrong. Also, incidentally, in regard to Shakespeare, leaving someone a second best bed would actually have been a compliment, not an insult, at the time. But I do think there is a strong chance that "William Shakespeare" was merely the pen name of a collaborative of playwrights and poets who wrote for The Globe Theater and that the owner of the the Globe theater at his demand that pen name be used in order to be compensated by him for their work or to have it performed by the troupe. I do believe it's possible that they presented a "face" of Shakespeare. But that person did not actually write a single work presented as that of Shakespeare.

[@cattanic494]

This theory isn’t possible, it’s one of the dumbest theories to exist, there is tons of information to disprove it

[@anniepollard3119]

@@cattanic494 of course it's possible.

[@cattanic494]

@@anniepollard3119 it’s not

[@ricecake3215]

@@cattanic494 you’re arguing all these theories & not providing any solid facts to disprove them. Saying “that can’t happen” is not a counter argument. Because yes it can, but it may not have.

[@cattanic494]

@@ricecake3215 ok if you want more evidence I’ll give it to you Here’s why it would be impossible to switch Titanic with Olympic: 1. The Titanic and Olympic had MAJOR differences that people would’ve noticed, like how Olympic had a open A deck promenade while Titanic had a half inclosed one. B deck on the Olympic was a promenade while on Titanic it was full of 1st class cabins, which would be impossible to switch. The wheel house on Olympic was round and on Titanic’s it’s flat, same with the bridge wing, Olympic’s was flat and Titanic’s stuck out. Each ship had a yard number which would be stamped every where on a ship to show what number it was, Olympic’s was 400 while Titanic’s was 401 if they did switch it that would mean they would have to take out EVERYTHING inside the ships which would be impossible, plus the wreck has 401 all over it. The Olympic had no cafe parisen while Titanic did Titanic had a bigger 2nd class dinning room. 2. The ships were only together for 44 days which is not enough time to switch them. 3. Titanic was heavily under insured so by sinking her on purpose they would be losing money not making it. 4. People say that a Titanic “survivor” claimed the theory was true but if you look more into it you would find out that that survivor wasn’t even on the Titanic 5. On the Titanic wreck every thing matches with the Titanic’s design not the Olympic 6. And finally this theory originated from a book called “the Titanic secret” Walter Lloyd the person who came up with this theory has stated this theory is is not true and was not meant to be taken seriously, it was written as a joke but then people started to take it seriously.

[@haydenpeeples829]

Conspiracy theory: Jenna is the illuminati omg the "hair" on her head is an antenna and the illuminati is controlling Jenna. dink fan beware

[@shelr8139]

Hahahahaha this is my favorite comment ever

[@Jamaicandashcam]

🔼

[@Courtney_Blake]

YAAASSSSS lol

[@profesorlunatik986]

omg 😂

[@austinbento684]

omFG

[@Jennalaporte]

JENNAS one little hair sticking up

[@user-kv7pr7xs6k]

Always fam. #DinkFam

[@Joojoobeans]

Its her antenna that helps her with figuring whether she thinks something is legit or not haha

[@Hey_Jamie]

THANKS now I see nothing else! LOL

[@thepointlessduo1136]

its endearing 😂😂

[@ShizzMonster]

was looking in the comments specifically for someone else seeing this

[@tahneeamber9867]

Shakespeare left his second best bed to his wife because all of Shakespeare's life they slept on the first best bed. By the point of his death, the first best bed was very worn out and not actually that comfortable anymore. The second best bed was for guests and very rarely slept on, and never for long periods at a time. Therefore, at this point, the second best bed /was/ the first best bed. Usually upon the death of the father, the son would be given the second best bed, so Shakespeare made it abundantly clear that the second best bed would be going to his wife so she could be comfortable for the rest of her life. #romance

[@kailyn1011]

aw

[@lucyoleary7080]

Tahnee Amber thank you for the explanation. That part was confusing to me

[@LaurenRuby]

Tahnee Amber there's a few more key pieces of evidence to the Titanic theory that make it much more compelling that Julien left out. Mainly having to support the premeditated nature of it (but also the details of the switch) i.e. important people cancelling their reservations, the other nearby boat being prepared for picking up survivors. Stuff like that.

[@broimconfused]

Really? The way I was taught was that he didn't actually love his wife. Their wedding was really a shotgun wedding because he had gotten her pregnant. So he didn't actually love her, and that's why he wanted his second best bed to go to his wife.

[@kiranbrar4963]

Tahnee Amber I

[@dudybug]

Can Jenna just be my history teacher? Please??

[@swag_mikel]

i want this too!!! all the history teachers ive had in my life (besides my past 8th grade teacher) have never been good at teaching. most of the time they aren’t even real teachers. they’re coaches that take a teaching job to earn more money.

[@caitlin329]

As much as I like Jenna, you'd be better off with someone who actually knows what they're talking about

[@rachbru]

That little hair of Jenna's that's just sticking up is my aesthetic.

[@fuckinwhat7626]

oh my god I didn't even see it until you pointed it out

[@vanessacruzz_]

I love it

[@GirlsOfVlog]

fave

[@SamanthaVictoria661]

Alfalfa Jenna

[@alyssacallaghan4065]

lmao same

[@MitchRoehl]

tbh the best fan contest ever would be to win an hour with jenna and julien and get to talk about conspiracies

[@anniek7986]

Lol, I recently dreamed about that. But then you got to stay a weekend at their place. Best dream ever!

[@Captain04801]

+~Anniek I've dreamed of hanging out with them for the whole weekend too! I thought I was the only one! Haha!

[@anniek7986]

+Heather Rodgers Conspiracy theory: they invade our brain at night to make sure we keep watching their videos beyond forever :D

[@iron343]

I want to have a dream like that... OH WAIT I DO! *breaks out in song:I DREAMED A DREAM AND TIME GONE BYYYYYY

[@finaljamm]

Just meeting them and talking about whatever is my dream.

[@xgreenus]

I love this. I was an English Literature major in college and the beginning of the podcast was just OWE to my heart. This is exactly what us nerds would discuss and debate all the time. I have to check out the lecture she got the info from. Its hilarious to me b/c that was such an under the radar idea we had when you dive deep enough into Shakespeare and his background and what the great minds of the era thought of him.. lol its so bad. The writing is wonderful but as a student its so strange to learn about him and then hear how much other writers in and after his era would say no way in hell was that him writing that hahah I cant!! Thank you Jenna. Once again you proved out minds are so much alike even though senpai will never notice me

[@carnuatus]

Same. I was kind of disappointed she didn't mention how in depth his knowledge had to be not only for legal things but for medical, international, never mind myth and legend, which would make sense if it was Bacom. I have never heard this particular theory before. Now I'm intrigued.

[@xgreenus]

+Judikaël G Oh I know, I think she was trying to keep in mind the time crunch for talking about other things probably.. I didn't hear the Francis argument that strongly before. Even some professors (the good ones lol) would drop hints about him not being the master behind himself..if he did write it alone Etc. It makes more sense to me of how a conspiracy on this level could hold up if it was F. Bacon b/c he had the intelligence and the resources to make sure it stuck as best he could and the works are still heard of and presented as Shakespeare. I wanted to hear more about if he is also behind the poetry though..

[@carnuatus]

Oh, of course. I totally understand why she did it. But it still would have been cool to hear! I never had even heard the Francis Bacon theory before! So fascinating.

[@xgreenus]

Agreed!!

[@kaseykasket]

I love how Jenna learns something from reading the theory, then reads it to Julien and says, "you know about that right?" Like she's known her whole life and makes it sound like he's clueless

[@katd102]

I wish you guys would site your sources so I could do more research!!

[@katd102]

In the description box*

[@goddammitalana]

just google it it's not that hard

[@Coopella7]

it's not hard, but I got interested in that golden dragon theory midway through so now I have to pause the video and go find the part when Jenna says what's the name of the channel that covered the whole story in more detail, so it'd be much easier if we could just find the link in the description, just saying

[@FukaiKokoro]

Just do a KZbin deep dive! Here's a starting place Jim Marrs, Stan romanak, The Grimerica Show, Simeon parkes then you'll have other recommendations pop up in the side bar with similar results.

[@DoeDonDoe]

hmmmm have you heard of the internet? its a decent place for research. not the best, but has some info on it :D hahah totally kidding :)

[@wiernyinaczej]

Maybe you should do a PhD research in conspiracy theories? 3-4 years spent doing nothing but dive into holes so deep you've never imagined?

[@frogsinsandals]

I'm watching this at 3am, which I thought would be fine, but now I'm at juliens second one about the guy in fresno and uhhhh no sleeping for me

[@sarahbeltran21]

Gracie Binette GOHL wtf I’m reading this at 3 am too I am shooketh

[@sarahbeltran21]

Gracie Binette meant watching lol

[@maryemerald5471]

Yesss that happened to me last night, I came back tonight to finish it but I was sooo tripped out I just couldn’t sleep at all.

[@thatoneperson8931]

I’m going into the Clementine Theory. Wish me luck, this rabbit hole is gonna last a few days.

[@yeeyeebrother4870]

do you have a link to the video 😥

[@katieoneill7808]

I found a documentary here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4Cun4WgdrydnpY It's like an hour long and could be the one that she watched

[@whatwhat7798]

@@yeeyeebrother4870 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIe7oX2KgZ6Xjas

[@mreboyras927]

Just clicked that link and the video is no longer available..

[@alyonadendy]

@@mreboyras927 same here, was trying to find this video - no longer available :c

[@webweaver123]

when you suddenly stopped and rethink what your posting on social media after juliens Fresno story

[@webweaver123]

you're*

[@voodoochild7533]

Right??!!

[@makeupacadia]

Haven't seen it, is it in a vlog?

[@webweaver123]

It was the second or third story julien told

[@Smashlynne13]

+

[@mattisawhale]

actually need to stop watching these late at night because I am freaking myself out over nothing

[@KTnelly]

same lol the police one freaked me out

[@elizabethsharon801]

saaaammmeee I'm really freaked out right now

[@Loves2Sing86]

Yep. 2 am. It's cool, I didn't ever wanna sleep again anyway...

[@Evaxah]

same i feel like im being watched.. its not cool

[@gravey-ye6xc]

fr tho

[@MrJherime]

I am i the only person who just adores Jenna?

[@rosiepreece5455]

Of course not

[@rosiepreece5455]

She is a queen

[@Joojoobeans]

Jenna's antenna approves this comment

[@melissalykins8895]

🙋🏽🙋🏽

[@RemyElysee]

Love her!!

[@jessicakasten9531]

And, adding to the Titanic theory, apparently, some of the wealthier people that were supposed to be on that ship, were told not to actually board it because they knew they were going to intentionally crash it and kill everyone on board.

[@Sam-xr8ne]

Check this out, some of them were killed on purpose. www.truthistreason.net/did-jp-morgan-sink-the-titantic

[@cattanic494]

No, just No, this theory is just dumb

[@MmeRougarou]

@@cattanic494 youve been working hard with these replies. Alittle too hard actually. Ive seen you trying to shut down arguments about jp morgan etc. Why? Why do you care so much? Were you told to do this? Just possessed by the truth eh? Lol

[@heyitsmejas3642]

This is what I’ve heard

[@cattanic494]

@@MmeRougarou because I’m a huge Titanic enthusiast, I’ve been researching the disaster for years. There is A LOT of misinformation and conspiracies about the disaster, I’m trying to stop to spread of misinformation, this Titanic theory is extremely stupid if you did some research, there are tons of information to disprove this theory

[@Eucis93]

As soon as this video is done I'm gonna throw my iPhone into the river and look in all my lamps for tiny surveillance devices and put boards over my windows

[@Nat-lb8nu]

Ok, I'm so fucking SHOOK right now

[@cXrMedia]

bitch im WOKE

[@xppl8635]

todays language got me fucked up 😂😂😂

[@fbiagentfrank]

+Xc Pl Yeah it's got me triggered too. LOL

[@ddp6256]

The house down

[@annabellemoon2995]

Natalie Mosko yes mr lincoln, we all are

[@sarahlikesmusic7347]

My aesthetic is that one hair sticking from Jenna's ponytail in this video

[@katrinarose72]

True beauty is seeing the sparkle in someone’s eyes as they are enthralled by their passions. You miss Jenna, have always been beautiful.

[@lydiazaletta463]

"What 12 year old is going to be like 'hey I'm gonna question all this stuff'?" Me me MEEEEE

[@sophielandfield2218]

Same

[@smari266]

well you have the internet, jenna didn't

[@smorrow100343]

+Sorry Its Cady right? We didn't have the Internet, we only had what everyone told us. Which breeds arrogance and ignorance

[@doggydog7840]

What was the point of this comment

[@JamesJones-dx9cy]

Y

[@sheed3700]

I tried google deep diving. I drowned.

[@Binxie_]

Another part of Olympic/titanic theory is that a bunch of rich well known people were supposed to board the titanic and they had even bought tickets for it, but they all decided not to go because apparently, the talk in the town a few days before the ship set sail was that something shady was going down... hmmmmmm

[@IamMissPronounced]

Allie Star there were still a few millionaires and politicians who boarded and died... So scary

[@cattanic494]

This theory is just dumb

[@asha4644]

I’m of the “i make potatoes” variety. Thank you Jenna for recognizing me.

[@ziamonddorsey357]

Fuck I wish all my English teachers would hear the first theory about Shakespeare. I honestly never believed he wrote any of his plays when we first started learning about him. No fucking way a random ass dude can come out of nowhere and write these plays and works and it just blow up like that. If Shakespeare was a normal guy, he'd had noooo idea of what half the words he used meant just like the masses of people nor would he know the inner workings of court. I thought I had a good grasp on our system until I actually started taking classes about it and Shakespeare didn't take any prior literacy classes nor law classes so what the fuck? When I pointed this out to one of my English teachers he got sooo pissed cause he worships the ground Shakespeare walks on.

[@ziamonddorsey357]

I mean color on the moon isn't that far fetched. We have the blood moon which is redish orange. If someone told me the moon could be blue, purple, yellow etc. it wouldn't be hard to believe.

[@laurencass6449]

More truth has never been spoken

[@AdaylnTheLifeOf]

I have another conspiracy theory for you: Sir Francis Bacon became jealous of Shakespeare because his works were reaching acclaim, while not as many of the commonwealth appreciated Bacon's works. Bacon or his colleagues (I don't actually know if Shakespeare died before or after Bacon) started the rumor that Shakespeare (WH) didn't actually write his works. They capitalized off of the notion that information and history were not regularly written down. 100 years after WH's death, a biography was written to subtextually follow the idea that WH did not write his works. The rest is history. (Also, about the anagram in Love Labours Lost-phrases, lines and words have been changed in a few of WH's works, most of which occurred after his death. Could be one of Bacon's crew messing with words after the fact. #illuminaticonfirmed

[@ogga]

Stay in school kids smh...

[@noram4213]

I study literature and I thought I'd debunk some of the arguments that were brought up about Shakespeare. This doesn't mean that I debunked the conspiracy, I can't prove if he was a real person or not, however there are some problems with the things that were mentioned here. So, if anyone's interested, come on along :) So, first of all, there are letters by Shakespeare and letters sent to Shakespeare, they exist and they are preserved for the world to see, just look them up. There aren't many, but this isn't exactly a huge problem because back in his time letters and stuff like that weren't being preserved carefully. The next thing that is just spewing nonsense is Shakespeare's will: it is absolutely normal for a person in the 16th century not to assume that he needed to put his texts into his will. The idea of copyright only dates back into the 1700s in England (Shakespeare died in 1616) and the idea of ownership of texts or other things that weren't physical property was just not a thing. That's why we have codices from the medieval and renaissance period with basically no authors' names on it, that's why compilation was an acceptable genre in earlier times (a compilation basically just puts a bunch of texts into the same book without giving credit to the authors, or if the authors' names are in there, it's because the author himself is famous in his time, like Plato or Socrates etc.) Shakespeare was most probably not illiterate, these claims come from the idea that there is no surviving documentation about his education. However, a bunch of people around that time are the same way, there are authors whom we know next to nothing about, it's just that Shakespeare is famous. Also, there are no people from Shakespeare's time documented to have any doubts about Shakespeare's writing capabilities, but there are documents of people sending him letters. He has some weird signatures, but it is important to know and to note that in that time period there was no widespread English grammar, only a few people knew how to write and the writing wasn't uniform so there are many ways in which a person could write even their own name, it wasn't so clear and set into stone as it is today. This, again, can be observed with more than one author from that period, and not even just from the English community. And with the use of stylometrics it was pointed out that Shakespeare did write his plays, there are distinct characteristics of his writing which are consistent through all of his works and they do not match the characteristics of Bacon's or other people's writing habits. This test also concluded that Shakespeare did write a few of his plays together with other people, but it was easy for people to see the two different styles working together and one of the styles always matched the one that we associate with Shakespeare. For example, he worked together with Christopher Marlowe on a couple plays, but he is not the same as Marlowe. Also, actual inquires about Shakespeare being real or him writing all of his stuff only arose in the 1850s, until then it wasn't even questioned. The legal errors Jenna mentions are pretty easy to debunk: law was very different back then, punishments for criminal activity were public, stuff like beheading, whipping, etc, they were a spectacle for people so it's safe to assume that most people were familiar with such basic punishments as death by hanging etc. Another obviously ill-informed thing is that the people whom Jenna mentioned are people who knew Shakespeare. I'll just leave you with every single name she mentioned: Mark Twain's book, Is Shakespeare Dead?, is mostly satiric, although Twain does try to go into details and see if there is any proof to what is being said. His curiosity is sincere, but he has no proof or even an actual stance on the issue. Also Mark Twain is an American writer, 1836-1910 and Is Shakespeare dead? was published in 1905. Walt Whitman is an American writer, 1818-1892, Henry James is a modernist, 1843-1916, Sigmund Freud is an Austrian psychoanalist whose theories have all been either debunked or surpassed by science at this point, Ralph Waldo Emerson is also an American writer, 1803-1882. From what I've understood, these conspiracies come largely from the USA entangled with conspiracies about secret societies such as the Illuminati or the Freemasons. So it's really not Lady Gaga and Jay-Z calling out Britney. It's like Lady Gaga and Jay-Z calling out Marlene Dietrich or something. The fact that he wasn't celebrated like that after he died is also normal, the idea of the author as a celebrity or the author as a public figure also only started emerging in the 1800s. There are a lot more details about Bacon because he was not only a writer but also a politician, working for the court and even against the court sometimes. So, it's actually quite normal for monuments and biographies to only come out after a longer period of time. The statue, I assume, is a joke.

[@noram4213]

And here's a little thing about the cipher Jenna has mentioned. It dates back to Dante. This is the word: Honorificabilitudinitatibus, it is a hapax legomenon which means that it's a word that only appears in the language once or very very few times. I was too lazy to type everything up about it, but here's a short thing I've taken from Wikipedia. As you can probably see from these things, it is a pretty big stretch to begin with and it is debunked by Shakespeare himself. The word has been used by adherents of the Baconian theory who believe Shakespeare's plays were written in steganographic cypher by Francis Bacon. In 1905 Isaac Hull Platt argued that it was an anagram for hi ludi, F. Baconis nati, tuiti orbi, Latin for "these plays, F. Bacon's offspring, are preserved for the world".[2][full citation needed] His argument was given wide circulation by Edwin Durning-Lawrence in 1910, complete with a cryptonumerical attempt to prove it justified.[3] The anagram assumes that Bacon would have Latinized his name as "Baco" (the genitive case of which is "Baconis") rather than, as Samuel Schoenbaum argues, "Baconus", with genitive "Baconi".[4] It is far from the only possible anagram. In 1898, Paget Toynbee noted that the word contains a glorification of Dante by himself as its letters could be rearranged to form the phrase Ubi Italicus ibi Danti honor fit (Where there is an Italian, there honour is paid to Dante).[5][6] In the 1970s, John Sladek noted that the word could also be anagrammatized as I, B. Ionsonii, uurit [writ] a lift'd batch, thus "proving" that Shakespeare's works were written by Ben Jonson.[citation needed][a] In 2012, in a column for the Calcutta Telegraph, Stephen Hugh-Jones mocked it with the deliberately anachronistic "If I built it in, is author ID Bacon?", attributing this to a derisive William Shakespeare; and counter-"proved" that Shakespeare wrote Bacon by converting the latter's famous opening phrase "What is truth, said jesting Pilate..." into "Truth? A lasting jape. Hide it. WS

[@kelseybirnholz9333]

Idk if you still get notifications on this comment but this is brilliant, well worded, and amazing overall. I hope you passed whatever class you took because you obviously know the material.

[@freire2tais]

This is so well written, crystal clear. Thanks for your time!

[@moonjelliespodcast1855]

Okay but the divine comedy was made in 1321 and we know dante wrote it. So some or your argument about no named authors is kinda bunk no offense

[@jesoi]

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[@sk8rhoe911]

i would just like to add onto julien's last conspiracy that a very popular activist in the black lives matter movement named johnetta has talked about how the government and police have showed up to her house unannounced and interviewed her for longs period of time about what she does and what not and when she talked about it but gave me so many chills i think the same has happened to another popular black lives matter activist deray just because these people protest the wrongful doing of police they are questioned by the FBI

[@sk8rhoe911]

it scares me so much

[@katieparker6679]

right? like why would the FBI look into it further more, what other information do they need?

[@kingwonder9116]

i'm from Fresno i had heard about this "suicide" on the news i had no idea this is what was really happening im going to do some further research considering the fact that i live here

[@john-xk4wk]

dont or you will be next

[@davidyoung2467]

I cant stop looking at jennas hair

[@TheAuroraGalore]

David Young That sticky up piece arghhh! Hah 😂🙈

[@carriebbbbbb]

This makes Monday's so much better

[@carriebbbbbb]

Yeeeees conspiracy theories

[@MargotDemi]

the bessst