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[@big.fav0r]

I love that they live in la and are always dressed like its 15 degrees out

[@emely1882]

baby angel I live in NY where it can get below 15 degrees outside and I can guarantee you we would not be wearing just a hoodie and a beanie in 15 degree weather. You would catch me wearing a winter coat and Tims😂

[@d6sires]

same lmao when I lived in California I would also dress like it was 15 degrees when it was like 90 something degrees

[@Ash.Music.Covers]

In Texas it sometimes get to 15 degrees

[@alice80085]

emely SAME I FEEL YOU

[@adarIing]

PLOT TWIST: It's 15 degrees in their house.

[@raythegoth]

It's actually easier to think that Jenna has travelled to an alternate universe or dimension than it is to process that she's left the internet indefinitely

[@madisondalton4981]

bro stop i’m gonna cri

[@driverjayne]

😥 she's just prepping really hard for her basketball season

[@lizdegrasse7960]

*waits for white hole to bring her back* lmfao

[@LittleCutieABDL]

Seems legit - I'll always look up with my binoculars; maybe she's having a great time in the Virgo constellation. Hope she is

[@anushkalols]

Is she really never coming back?😿

[@PossiblyAlena]

Jenna: “This was in the United States?” Julien: “This WAS in the United States.” Jenna, under her breath: “.....shit.....”

[@Humanh8red]

@9:22 I don’t even see her lips move. This is freaking me out !!

[@PossiblyAlena]

@@Humanh8red bro watching it back I'm pretty sure it's Julien making the noise??? But idk

[@The_Lucky_Ace777]

the Jamison Family story happened like 20 minutes from my home town and it's terrifying

[@shaylaya2499]

she actually didn't say that! if you replay it and listen closely it's julien that makes a noise that sounds like the word!

[@cherrycokee]

@@The_Lucky_Ace777oh nah thats so scary, do we know if there was a conclusive cause of death and what happened in the end?

[@MichelleRedSoul]

The background combined with your clothes makes it look like you guys are in a horror camping movie.

[@missundies]

SuperChivasLover Lol!

[@xBoRiCuAxGiRLx]

SuperChivasLover *Jason appears in the background*

[@LaeLae666]

Sleep away camp!

[@ashley3461]

Wolf Creek Part 2!!!

[@laurenmaxwell6954]

Its been a year please make another unsolved mysteries pod cast PLEASSSSSSSSEEE! We loved this video

[@Oswadomob]

I agree

[@kalebgent4777]

It’s been 2 years PLEASE

[@Sleepingwei]

Kaleb Gent too bad the podcast doesn't exist anymore 😔

[@danbealecocks4344]

One (of the many) thing I love about you two is that you're clear when you are unsure about something. 'this is what I think, but check that', and then fact checking during the podcast. We need more of this, of people saying "I'm not sure, let's find out, but even after we look it might still be unclear".

[@stldf5863]

Dan Beale Cocks I noticed that too and I love it. Jenna made a comment about Bar Mitzvah’s and corrected herself because she felt since she wasn’t Jewish she didn’t truly know that topic.

[@thetulips9714]

this is exactly how they stay unproblematic! other you tubers should learn from them... they're very mature about things, especially controversial and touchy topics

[@thetulips9714]

@@lotadle what happened?

[@janemh5866]

@@lotadle I see this comment was a year ago but I just need to put it down to be very clear that that's absolutely not what happened

[@lotadle]

@@janemh5866 I know how I worded it was completely wrong, I was a year younger and really didn't completely understand the issue, but now I do. she took accountability, and now is taking a well deserved break.

[@sierradgibson]

Wasn’t it also found later on that water tank case that she had a tumblr account and had written a bunch of posts indicating that she felt she was being followed by someone days before it happened?

[@aprilapple00]

UM SEND ME THE LINK

[@tattooednazgul]

Sierra yes

[@MrAishoka]

So maybe she was being stalked/harassed by someone at the hotel? Perhaps exacerbating her mental illness and causing her erratic behaviour. A hotel employee could have gotten her through those alarmed doors and into the water tank. Such a sad story...

[@beautytryouts]

Look up David Paulides missing 411 interviews...specifically on Elisa Lam's case....your minds WILL BE BLOWN😵😮😲

[@extraterrestrial2299]

Her name is Elisa Lam. Let's have a little respect.

[@leojacko]

wow i love buzzfeed unsolved, ryan and shane who?

[@ApoorvaaC]

leo It’s the best. ❤️

[@annee2243]

Dinks unsolved???

[@DanielleVlog365]

*Wheeze*

[@maddie-fz7tk]

ryan bergara and shane madej

[@bonyee2768]

leo I love Buzzfeed Unsolved; it's so good

[@lumos9507]

There needs to be another podcast with Shane where you guys talk about creepy things/conspiracies

[@znyznyzny]

Lumos /* I feel like I've been waiting for this for years

[@socalledfishboy]

Watching this in 2020 and crying over Ad and Jenna it’s fine

[@sewerrat2683]

Same :,)

[@botanical_chloride_6471]

Ikr I just have to pretend that it's still 2018 and none of this year has happened yet and the podcast is still going and I can actually leave the house

[@beeech1080]

Me in 2021 😅😭

[@JordanAnnKearns]

me in 2022... I miss Jenna 😭

[@bridgetduncan5338]

2023 😢

[@ryan_7180]

Can you do more google deep dives ?

[@KittyNippz]

I came here after the Skinwalker podcast. And that part from 7:15 - 7:23 freaked me out coz that bark sounded weird AF!

[@zahraab5165]

Ikr

[@ohok2879]

same

[@olivialeger4392]

I can’t with that one!! I was yelling at my phone

[@brooke0550]

Kitty Nippz OH MY GOD SAME sorry I just got freaked out bc that’s exactly what I did🙃

[@oliviaparkinson9702]

Kitty Nippz you’re tweaking

[@noashor5224]

Julien: "I hope you're not eating..." Me: slowly stops chewing pasta.......

[@sashinka1701]

when he snapped his fingers and said: "disintegrated"... ha this came out months before Infinity War

[@KatChartreux]

*Conspiracy theories?* 😀

[@YonaCubs]

Kat Chartreux mom

[@xBoRiCuAxGiRLx]

Kat Chartreux with Shane Dawson Please!

[@nellyduckmont]

Yesssss please with Shane!

[@heighton7206]

Floris Lilium omg yass

[@wutsit2yuhhuh246]

Kat Chartreux if you're interested still I have some (imo) good videos on my deep rabbit hole playlist. They're videos I've watched and added over time. Some of them could get really dark btw so I warned you lol.

[@brittanyn3448]

Listening to Jenna analyze what she thinks could have happened is so cool when we know she didn't research some of the stories at all. I love the fact that you guys have one person doing the research and the other gives input from someone who's hearing the story for the first time.

[@jessicakasten9531]

Jenna is so intelligent 🤗 use that psychology otter

[@CSine1]

Jessica Kasten Dr. Otter :3

[@jessicakasten9531]

Caroline Sine I love that! 🤗

[@cbgb3369]

Hear me out on my theory about Elisa and the Cecil hotel for a sec. So I’ve read in quite a few places (this comment section included) that the hotel was known to be in a pretty bad area of town a and that there were one or two crazy people in the area known to the hotel for following young women in there. Something I’m pretty sure a hotel would never want the public finding out about. So, let’s say Elisa is followed into the hotel by one of these guys and there’s no one at the reception to help her out so she gets in the elevator and tries to get to her room, but sometimes hotel elevators tell you which floor has been chosen on the outside, so the guy following her goes up the stairs to the floor she chooses, and when she goes to step out he is there, so she gets back in and chooses a bunch of floors so he can’t see which she has chosen but inevitably it opens at the next floor and he is there again. She stays in the elevator and he knows there are cameras in there so he doesn’t follow (he’s done this before maybe) he just stays out there pressing the call button for the elevator to stop the doors from closing. She hangs out the door and has an interaction with him but we don’t see what she says because the hotel have clearly doctored the footage, taken angles where you’d see her killer out and pixelated her mouth so you can’t see what she is saying to him. Eventually she gives up and gets out the elevator, perhaps at gunpoint er threat and is made to go to the roof with him, he forces her to get naked and kills her then throws her into the water tank, throws her belongings in after her and removes the ladder, replacing it where her got it from. When the hotel realises there is a body in the tank, they check all the footage, see this shit go down and realise they are culpable for not having someone on the front desk, and for not doing something about this guy who is chasing their customers, so doctors the tape, not handing over any footage to the police where you can see the guy (or again maybe he knew where the cameras were so avoided them) to make it look like she is talking to herself, claims she is crazy and fashions the whole thing into a mystery.

[@AlbyHonest]

This is an amazing hypothesis, I’ve always been so confused about the Elisa Story!

[@cbgb3369]

@@AlbyHonest Thanks. Yeah and the more I watch about her, the more it makes sense - someone who worked there made a comment saying that they never put people on reception at night, even though they were supposed to because they were struggling for money. I also heard, since writing this that the police DIDN’T get all the footage - they didn’t get the footage of her coming through the hotel lobby! Now they are raking cash in from visitors and ghost hunters coming to visit and it’s boosting their sales to sell her story as if she were crazy!

[@joyous1011]

This is the best theory I've heard yet! 👏🏽 @CB GB

[@cbgb3369]

@@sigh-ruh more and more, I’m convinced that this is how it went down.

[@user-wo8eb6sn1x]

When Julien said “i hope your not eating” i was in the middle of biting my hot Cheeto.

[@TheCupcakeaholic]

Jillian D I was eating a burrito

[@user-wo8eb6sn1x]

Jessica Maria even worse 😂

[@IffySquishy]

I was eating jalapeño cheetos...

[@jacquigariepy2644]

IffySquishy ME TOO

[@melanie2630]

i was making a flutter nutter :’)

[@sofias.5441]

JENNA!!! I don’t remember which podcast it was but I remember you told a story where in college you went to class and your notebook was all filled in and that class hadn’t even happened yet? And then you knew the plot of a Cheaters when it was new that night? What if you experienced the same thing the Torrid guy did but on a less substantial level. Holy fuck I’m freaking out rn.

[@RoyceRemix]

Wait, I legit don't remember this... are you explaining a podcast that hasn't happened yet?? :O

[@meghna617]

nahh it was one of the ghost stories podcasts i think

[@eveg7544]

Yeah it was one of the ghost stories podcast I listened to it the other day

[@NatHatter11]

Ghost stories podcast in the Toronto hotel room with Debbie and Rome!

[@_theeb]

it’s fine It was at H3 podcast.

[@Madzzz]

with the first story i bet they were experiencing extreme paranoia(maybe from a different drug) and felt like they needed to take everything and leave and thought they were being followed and jumped out of the car and ran into the woods to hide and maybe turned on each other or something.

[@Love49erz]

Madzzz but what about their kids ?

[@Madzzz]

yizzy I agree with Jenna and Julien with what probably happened in the woods(murder/suicide)

[@ericawalker8339]

Maybe those photos of the daughter are from a kidnapper, and when they went after her the ended up dead (potentially murdered, from exposure or even overdose). Maybe they owed money to the drug dealer or something similar, and that's what the money was for. It Still doesn't explain why the money was in the car or some of the other factors but I thought those pictures seemed a bit weird.

[@c8linvz]

Madzzz if they turned on each other how likely is it that they would all fall side by side, face down in a specific position

[@Madzzz]

Caitlin Vasquez like Julien said there are mud slides in the area and their position could have been a coincidence

[@lindseysnyder9701]

I bet this guy shifted back into his dimension and was like "yooo what a weird dream". Like what if we shift dimensions everytime we dream?

[@crochetingcanuck]

Then wouldn't weird experiences like the airport one be a regular occurance, from people coming here in there dreams?

[@Rawr98]

Lindsey Snyder yooooo holy shit

[@macdre3911]

Crocheting Canuck maybe it depends on your mind and how it works 🙃

[@crochetingcanuck]

Flathead your comment makes absolutely no sense in response to mine.

[@lindseysnyder9701]

I mean maybe people from other dimensions do dream and come here but their dream is of them walking down the street of NYC or something. Like maybe when you do crazy shit in your dream, it's because in the reality you shifted to that crazy behavior is the norm. So like I have repetitive dreams of being able to float/fly, maybe I shift to the same dimension where that's a normal thing no one would notice happening? If that makes sense

[@Kazooples]

These are the podcasts I miss the most, love the spooky ones

[@melann4522]

I have my blanket and snack soup, ready to go. Grateful to watch these oldies but goodies during my "me time" : ) Hope ur both well.

[@arisbeth.carrillo]

In a parallel universe, Jenna and Julien are doing a podcast about the Unsolved Mystery of the man from Taured how mysteriously disappeared at an airport in Japan.

[@BeLikeNexus]

LegendaryMe FUCK ME UPPPPP

[@laurac1908]

I like the second I saw Julien's hair. Love the natural color and that cut

[@soufbayshawty]

I wish you guys covered lesser known cases, would’ve definitely been able to learn something new. Still a great podcast though!

[@juliaaalovee]

DailyTomato especially since those ones have so much information that they neglected to mention and misrepresented facts of the cases just because they enjoy the fantasy of theorising more than they respect the people who suffered devastating ends

[@strawbabbie]

Ju Bear yes exactly

[@HopeElizabeth]

there’s a thing called the elevator game which the end result is you’re supposed to end up in an alternate dimension and the spirit world. to play that game, it’s a lot of in and out of the elevator and pressing a ton of buttons, and if you do something wrong, you could be stuck in that alternate dimension. now as far fetched as that is, the cecil hotel was very known for being haunted so what if she was trying to play that game, then got stuck in the alternate dimension and kind of went insane. again, it’s far fetched but it’s not completely impossible. i don’t know, it’s crazy.

[@alwaysstressed4614]

HopeElizabeth maybe, the hotel has workers involved in foul play and the spirts are from the victims trying to scary people into leaving the hotel.

[@dreamskeepmesane]

Shane dawson did a video on that 🙂

[@xBoRiCuAxGiRLx]

HopeElizabeth There’s a video game based on it and I thought about that!

[@elizabeth_404]

Her elevator didn't move when she pushed the button, though. There's a young woman who's supposed to get on your elevator at some point during the elevator game if you do it right. What if Elisa is the woman?

[@AbbieGirl46]

I think the game is based off this incident.

[@andreaceline]

big methy meth fight

[@rainirodriguez8275]

Andrea Celine Munoz lmao my wedding

[@aaron-pb8to]

44:57 were literally constantly switching realities by making decisions in our lives because there could be one decision where the outcome is death but you somehow managed to avoid that by making a different decision

[@jada.808]

I realize this is 5 months late, but is that truly switching to a new reality or is it simply altering one reality? (I don’t know how I feel about the whole alternate reality theory: real or not?)

[@piper668]

"Why are they barking?" *Immediately thinks of skinwalkers*

[@roxyn6187]

The black dahlia killer stayed at the Cecil hotel. Also many people have died there including someone who jumped out of the window. They had to put bars on windows so people would stop jumping. It’s since renamed “stay on main”. I went there to check it out Halloween 2017 and the gentleman at the desk suggested I don’t stay there. They also blocked off the elevator so that no one could use it. The remaining guests were actually long term guests who live there and the owner had to wait out their leases until they move out to finally close it down in 2018. The hotel was super creepy and had very suspicious ownership circumstances. She couldn’t have shut the latch behind her also which is a huge point of creepiness! The story is really sad!

[@lillybug1569]

I fell asleep listening to this podcast and had some weird ass dreams

[@rierie8989]

I feel like I should not be watching this before bed

[@ashley3461]

AnnaMarie H Same....but I'm doing it anyway! 😂

[@missmusky]

Yeah I’m in bed in the dark creeped out only 15mins deep

[@sm00rezd]

i stopped and came back a few days later 😂

[@AmyBumble]

Man I miss this podcast. Twas the best one on the interwebs EVER. So glad I can rewatch all of these tho so thank you so much for leaving them up. Love to the Solomita/Mourey bunch xx

[@iAlexx33]

I’m watching this at 2.30am and I’m into it and creeped out, and just when you get into the Mandela effect and alternate timelines, the video becomes unavailable and won’t play!! Every other video on KZbin is playing but this one won’t - ‘something went wrong’ - even after restarting it. What!! Who is stopping me!! They are onto us guys 🙈

[@iAlexx33]

Holy moly, just got it playing and saw you having trouble with the internet too - somebody doesn’t want us to know!

[@elsas5575]

Why am I watching this right before I go to sleep?

[@neenasingh5089]

The guy from Tourid was arriving in Japan to visit, sooo that means he got off a plane to enter the airport. He wasn’t leaving japan, he was arriving, so why not just check his ticket and see what airplane he JUST got off of and where that airplane came from ?

[@eating-rocks]

Maybe some plane tickets only had the destination on them in the 50's

[@megangallagher4047]

Because its a made up story from reddit

[@mijonate6484]

The fact that this doesn't have music to it makes it that much more creepy. Like I'm in the room discussing these things with them.

[@frogsinsandals]

get Shane and Ryan from unsolved on the podcast

[@trashdepo5752]

I don’t think they would be allowed because buzzfeed employees aren’t allowed to be in videos that compete with buzzfeed :(

[@scoopsmcgee7171]

*wheeze*

[@KaoticDreww]

Then they should have Shane Dawson and ryland on specifically for a conspiracy theories podcast

[@frogsinsandals]

Kaotic Drew strongly agree. We've been wanting one with shane Dawson for a while now😂

[@Kat-qr7hv]

As far as I know, they’re allowed to be in other videos as long as they’re open about being part of buzzfeed. It’s kinda like free advertising

[@kairrenhall9432]

Laying in the bath while they’re talking about Elisa Lamb was not a good idea

[@allybarrett3162]

“Methy meth fight” I want a shirt that says that

[@vanessar4141]

Here to listen to ~spooky podcasts to fill the void of not having new October episodes this year 🤗😢

[@rebemoro]

Sorry dinks, but the man from taured is an urban legend. It originated in the book “The Directory of Possibilities” by Colin Wilson & John Grant and all sources online just cite each other, there were no newspaper articles about this coming out of Japan in 1954

[@deja3963]

Rebecca M Really? Aww :(

[@Liz-su3cb]

I was looking for this comment Bc I didn’t want to be the one to crush their hopes and dreams 😂

[@laurenriley389]

Yeah, I looked into it as well and there is no concrete evidence of the Man from Taured ever existing aside from as a character in a book.

[@tillybb]

Aw yeah I was just going to comment this. It’s just an urban legend. They should have done a little more research.

[@emily.henard]

I’m wondering what the man from torrid’s plane ticket said. If he had just arrived in Japan, he had to have just gotten off a plane at that airport right? And his plane ticket would say which plane he got off of, and where that plane came from...

[@whitenoizzze]

No, I believe he was leaving from Japan to Taurid so they wouldn't necessarily have any proof he did or didn't come from any specific area. Unless they could somehow look up his flight history if there was any documented. Plus, there's always the possibility that he drove or got a ride to the nearest airport. Which, depending on where Taurid is, the nearest airport could be hours away by car. I know when I go to visit cousins (in Vermont USA), I have to drive an hour from the closest airport to their town.

[@whitenoizzze]

Side note, I'm pretty sure that story wasn't researched well because it's from a ​book.

[@PurpletasticFred]

Emily Henard I thought of that too, but they said Taured was supposedly very small and located between France and Spain. So he may have made the commute to a nearby airport in one of the two bordering countries for a more "direct" flight to Japan. Obviously this is just speculation, I'm no aviation expert, but that was my thought process on it.

[@mle746]

4:29 The Jamison Family 19:59 Elisa Lam 36:47 The Man from Taured

[@haileybuth9223]

If you guys like stuff like this you’d love the youtube channel Criminally Listed, he puts so much effort into his videos and all the cases are ones I’ve never heard of before

[@deaniebeanie4416]

HopelesslyHailey I LOVE criminally listed! The information is put into a format that is easy to understand without all the hype and pizzazz.

[@jelllllllly4954]

I love Criminally Listed, Cayleigh Elise, & Sword and Scale.. if y’all like those, check out Up and Vanished podcast and the new one Atlanta Monster.

[@jelllllllly4954]

Brittany Rose Up and Vanished is one season all about a cold case of a woman who went missing in Georgia. It’s incredible I couldn’t stop listening to it. I’d start there, and then Atlanta Monster is made by the same guy but it’s all about the child murders in the 80s in Atlanta, it’s also incredible but I hate having to wait a week for a new episode 😂

[@jelllllllly4954]

Brittany Rose I would definitely compare U&V to Serial but there’s more information/episodes so it’s a deeper dive. I also couldn’t get into season 2 of serial which was disappointing, but I did enjoy S-Town (same creators).

[@personincognito3989]

Oohhh...

[@jamesterbro]

tbh i was having a really bad day and then i saw this notification on my phone and it made my day

[@thiacastle.7271]

I need to watch old videos because I miss Jenna!!!

[@Zeliek]

The whole passport thing actually happens quite a lot for people from my country. We are Greeks (for a lot of countries but we also have some unique names to some places for historic reasons) but the official name on the papers says Hellenic Republic and in Greek our name is Ελληνες (Hellenes). The problem comes when people have no idea about our history and geography of Europe and find that although we say we are greek we have papers that say we Hellenic and there is no place on the map or on their archives called Hellenic republic. Most Greeks I think find it funny if they know how to communicate and have time to spare for a superior to confirm... So i guess you can find people arguing that this is my country and it has two names (well more than 2 we are ancient) in airports .

[@nola1439]

Zeliek the man from taured is an urban legend. It is the exact story from a famous book, and there’s no evidence of it actually happening. No concrete evidence of the event at all. It’s a sci-fi story from the 1982 book A Directory of Possibilities people are just assuming is real with no evidence. It is easy to debunk since no Japanese authority has a record of it happening and no newspaper reported it.

[@Zeliek]

Still my example stands as something that might actually happen! Also i kinda knew it before hand that it was fake but i like to ignore it most of the time because i like spooky things!

[@oj3511]

No wtf that is completely different. It has to do with translation. The word Greece/Greek has semantic significance - it wasn’t just a random word used to describe Hellada.

[@Zeliek]

Nobody said there wasn't a reason for the "Greek" name. My point is that it actually happens to have more than one name (given to them by other countries or their "original") for your country at least we greeks do. This might cause confusion to foreign officers again if they don't know that "Hellenic republic"(Hellas) (official name) and Greece is the same thing !

[@snuterella]

This is appropriate to be on my recommended during spooky season

[@Faythe98]

Omg I live a couple hours away from where the Jamison’s were found in Red Oak, Oklahoma. As someone who knows the area I am fully convinced it had something to do with meth as that is a popular drug in small towns around here. They probably got caught up in some delusion and went to kill them selves or potentially they could’ve owed a drug dealer money and something went wrong.

[@alexishamel7843]

BeatNeko3 meth is a popular drug everywhere in Oklahoma. it sucks here. gross.

[@oliviadaragona4257]

I like the theory that the daughter died and they wanted to be at rest with her. Idk It just makes me feel better.

[@user-ew9uv2hs2i]

Olivia Daragona I feel so bad just thinking about it, it makes me cry

[@oliviadaragona4257]

j same

[@mgnrwn]

www.reddit.com/r/UnsolvedMurders/comments/679s6x/the_jamison_family_mystery/dgpbfrb

[@WillowJaie]

You guys should read about/cover the Russian Sleep Experiment story.

[@fashiondesign42]

So the thing that ends up weirding me out the most about the Elisa Lam case is that in all the videos and things I've seen about her is none of her family ever comes forward to talk about her. You know? Like as far as I know/seen no family comes out to talk about her memory, or how the family is doing, and what they think of her death, nothing, and you'd think they would or that news stations would ask for a statement since it was so publicized, but yeah idk that's just me. 🤷

[@Ma05Lu]

Alana Garza ikr, thats what I thought about too! also, theres no photos of her other than I think one or maybe two. you would think that on a case that huge there would be more information about the victim. I always had the thought in the back of my mind that for some reason, maybe she never really existet and the person in the video was just someone pretending to be her, you know what I mean?

[@captaingatorgirl6892]

Exactly. I don't watch the news a lot, but the times I have, CTV news ALWAYS has statements/comments from family members or friends. They try to be pretty thorough. So it's strange that there isn't anything out there.

[@chloesqueeks]

It could be cultural. mental illness in some cultures is seen as something to hide, and even disown family members over.

[@connfyoozed]

Many Asian cultures tend toshun those with mental illness, and Elise’s family reportedly had a history of not admitting to or ignoring Elise’s documented issues with mental illness. Also, keep in mind that her parents are first-generation immigrants to Canada from Vietnam (?); it’s very possible that either their English isn’t good or that they at least don’t feel comfortable talking to the media in what isn’t their native language.

[@allisonparrott5914]

Theory: that woman's behavior in the elevator indicates perhaps that she was having her life threatened, perhaps someone who worked at the hotel or a person who could go through the hotel with out being detectable like a service person had targeted that woman because she was visible mentally unstable, they attacked her and she died. To cover it up they hid her in a near by spot that they thought no one would find right away. That creates an explanation of maybe the suspect had access to tools, a ladder and they would have been aware of where each of the cameras were so they could do all of this with out being caught on camera. They potentially could have access to a secondary service elevator to get the girl up to the roof with out being caught on camera. BOOM.

[@seanceknowles2911]

Autopsy report showed there was no foul play

[@murphhhhhhh]

iirc wasn't the cause of death drowning?

[@sofiaderbyshire88]

I keep thinking the shadow from the mic is a coffee stain or something...

[@owen7743]

Sofia Derbyshire I CANT UNSEE IT NOW

[@buttplug5541]

First of all DO MORE OF THESE

[@Ishiskebsiabbsixnd]

I have a conspiracy that Jenna has never had a basketball game

[@marianna3253]

Isabella J It's tomorroooooow

[@BeLikeNexus]

This is blasphemy DELETE

[@voodoochild7533]

I’m scared

[@theirmanager5204]

Naw bitch, it's tomorrow

[@lex6blue]

It was a volleyball game this whole time

[@dallonpilled]

I forget that Jenna majored in Psychology sometimes

[@Ricky-bv4kv]

Tracie Porter she’s truly so well spoken and her knowledge on certain topics just makes her such a captivating speaker

[@josephtaylor8393]

I’m pretty sure she has forgotten that she majored in psychology

[@Beespank]

I've been watching her for so long, how did I not know this??? I've always found her super insightful about stuff tho so I'm rly not at all surprised.

[@fredericksinclair]

@@Beespank just because you majored in psychology, doesn't mean you are super insightfull

[@MamacitaaBackup]

@@fredericksinclair She wasn't implying that. She's simply stating that that specific quality in Jenna probably goes hand and hand with what she's studied. Idk if I said that right but got damn why ya gotta be that guy

[@HeartOfClod]

"I've never done meth." I'm so proud of you, sweetie, you're doing great.

[@syrussthagreat237]

I've done meth with my dad !

[@kaanonen7873]

@@syrussthagreat237 k watchu want a scooby snack ?

[@aaaaaah0]

@@syrussthagreat237 are you good?

[@redphoenixfire7755]

@@syrussthagreat237 same but with my grandma

[@syrussthagreat237]

@@kaanonen7873 😂😂😂

[@emjl6082]

Jenna- "I could never be a police officer, i'd be sad all the time" Me- *literally listening to this podcast while working for the sex crime division* Me- pretty much yep.

[@nyx6625]

Oh that sucks...

[@Lionhearted626]

Oh shit... are you staying in the job because it’s important?

[@Izzy-ch2vr]

Your work is so massively important and appreciated

[@yamix7266]

What is it like? Other than being sad.

[@evilpatrick9562]

Weird flex but ok

[@snacciboii8961]

Julien: reads mysteries Jenna: *Visible distress*

[@terrible_tyson]

"Hopefully you're not eating now" *Me stopping mid bite*

[@LittleSprout73]

I imagine your profile picture being the face you made mid bite

[@hayleyh7091]

I did the same thing 😂

[@angelinagorobchenko5443]

Same- but I’m always eating 😎

[@hejohnmeyer3]

Same!!

[@SJ-kx6no]

Me too😄

[@Zeennuh]

Make a dog bed out of Irish spring so Kermit can rub his body all over it

[@jennig3057]

Zena Aumada THIS IS AMAZING!!! 💚🖤💚

[@jamesschmidt5827]

Zena Aumada YESSSSS

[@MarkelleRayneeSheree]

YES!!!

[@znyznyzny]

Mister Physics wasn't the first comment to have this idea lol

[@angiealfaro6968]

Boi do I have news for you

[@chelseaschaf8885]

When they started talking about ad...😭 #RIP❤️#ad

[@dftblood2048]

Chelsea Schaf he ain't dead??

[@monagarcia1803]

bts shrimp he is sadly

[@eryaviel]

RIP Ad. :(

[@giannakelly2011]

mona garcia what?! What happened

[@abbeyjay1125]

Gianna Kelly he passed of old age

[@Irishrachel1]

*sees title of video* *longest hell yeah ever*

[@kittymeowzzz]

ahhh hell yeuhhhhhhhh

[@ofeliaforsman1]

You said it sister/brother!

[@jessileann2587]

rachmors same 😂😂

[@morganwadsworth5778]

I love when jenna talks about psychology and sociology it’s so interesting

[@neena8604]

i'm like 99% sure she has a degree in psychology, but i might be wrong

[@alyssanelson8612]

neen bean fighting machine You’re correct. She has a masters degree in psychology.

[@thatchick2937]

Anyone else re-watch these podcasts when they need a Jenna fix?

[@dollyd4728]

Yup here in 2024. Jenna will forever be my spirit animal and I miss them. But thank you guys for not taking these down and keeping these forever forevwr to revisit. Going thru all old videos and podcasts over the next few months cause I miss these times. Happy we still have julien, two special hoomans ❤❤

[@TheLangleyLife]

PLEASE. DO. MORE. OF. THESE.

[@TheLangleyLife]

Also the hotel IS haunted. It's the hotel "American Horror Story Hotel" is based off of. Look it up, her death is only one of MANY! Def paranormal if you ask me.

[@TheLangleyLife]

ALSO, its possible she was pressing so many buttons because she was trying to confuse whoever was following her. Example: press button 1-4-7-9-12-15 blah blah blah and get off on a random floor so if anyone is trying to track what floor you're going to, it's difficult if the elevator is stopping multiple times.

[@MoeCo8]

The Langley Life .mmmmjm)pp]pmkm

[@LadyDynamitez]

There was also this theory that she was playing this one korean (?) elevator game, I remember reading about. But the AHSH wasn't based on that hotel contrary to popular belief, it was another hotel, But Cecil hotel had a lot of serial killers staying there etc.

[@beccajean4418]

Btw the Jamison’s dog lived and was fine after getting found :)

[@alexishamel7843]

Becca Jean ......hows he/she doin now

[@ThatAnimalChannel]

Thats the one of the 3 family members in the woods? always the best news when the doggo makes it!

[@alexishamel7843]

Woah that’s me

[@scivnce4273]

@@alexishamel7843 how dare you assume its a he or she. Maybe ita a they

[@alexishamel7843]

No No how funny

[@melanie2630]

am i the only one that gets hella paranoid watching these even though they’re not ghost stories??

[@rainirodriguez8275]

Melanie ME

[@alexrseeberger]

SAME I moved my whole body so none of me was hanging off my bed. I’m scared.

[@user-ew9uv2hs2i]

It makes me feel better seeing recent comments

[@samayyye7037]

I'm glad I'm not alone 😂

[@Carmelishez]

Yes! I keep getting scared of the noises in my house eeee!

[@fayrasey8443]

Where is my conspiracy podcast with Shane???

[@tvojeprezuvky]

yes please!!!!!!!!

[@0Flow0]

I'm not sure if he'll do those anymore since last time he did a conspiracy video someone tried to ruin his reputation and career.

[@MsBossLadyLola]

0Flow0 literally WHAT are you talking about? This person was referring to Shane being a guest on J&J podcast. If you’re referring to Shane’s creepy videos (not a podcast?) he still makes them? He made one just a few weeks ago? And if you’re referring to Bobby Burns diss video about Shane’s conspiracies you clearly need to visit Shane’s channel because him and Bobby are friends now. And like I said, Shane hasn’t stopped making those videos. So literally what the fuck are you talking about

[@jelllllllly4954]

Sophie AndImTired I think they are referring to the person who alleged Shane was a pedophile.

[@ElizaSimmer]

Shane still does conspiracies not as often but I feel he would love to do them with j and j

[@maritzaflores2000]

When Jenna and Julien talk about Ad they sound like parents that's three other kids were flops and Ad is the only one that turned out right. . . . I guess he really was #ripad

[@gb0221]

Unsolved dinksteries

[@kaylynh2651]

GB 02 Hell ya I like it!😜

[@sparkle7653]

"big methy meth fight"

[@kellfrillman4199]

I was at the Cecil the same weekend that Elisa went missing, a creepy guy tried following me into the hotel and toward the elevator, and the front desk got SUPER alarmed and intercepted him while I ran for the elevator. I was creeped out by the guy but even more creeped at how alarmed the front desk people were as if they knew him and he'd tried this before... all I did was glance at them and mouth 'help' when I walked in. Then this whole crazy thing went down and found out she went missing at the same time... I always wonder if that could've been me.

[@jesuusch]

I’m glad you were safe, it’s just sad that Elisa wasn’t able to be saved.

[@squirrelbeez5123]

:0 that’s scary, thank god your okay

[@charlotteriddle7303]

Did u talk to the police bout this?

[@kellfrillman4199]

Charlotte Riddle I tried but I’m pretty sure they just thought I was a crazy person lol... they took my description and didn’t contact me again

[@M377ow]

I've had friends staying at that hostel, I've been down there myself. Seen and heard shit that you wouldn't believe. Most people staying in the area are unaware that you're staying on the end of skid row.

[@nadia5076]

I'm kinda sad naturebox isn't a sponsor because when Jenna said "I need a snack too" all I could think was MISSED OPPORTUNITY FOR A SEGUE

[@samantharosee_xx6810]

This is random, but the way Jenna has changed over the last 5-10 years is insane. Looking at her back in 2011-2013 vs. now is CRAZY. Her personality is so different, in a good way! Julien is so good for you, boo.

[@tarameame9581]

boo. let's bring back boo

[@tacosandwh0rechata]

Havent they been together for 9 years though.. why is her progression of personality based on a man instead of a woman living her life..

[@scivnce4273]

@@tacosandwh0rechata amen

[@Nunya-77]

@@tacosandwh0rechata Is she not living her life with him? WOuldnt her main relationship also shape things in her own worldviews?

[@bailey9134]

I was just rewatching her old videos to compare her to now!!! So true!

[@ellipsisms]

I was feeling like shit today, thank you for existing.

[@daniadams1415]

turn that frown upside down sending love and positivity your way woooooooooooosh

[@neonpineapple4680]

Sara S. you are cared for 💕

[@Dana-gd2fs]

sending a biiiig virtual hug your way

[@joobypooh3002]

i’ve been waiting at the doctors office all day, at least now i have something to watch while i wait :’) jenna & julien are great. hope you feel better!

[@loafofbread8098]

Weird weird weird Jenna kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5TUXpqMnNJ1qbs

[@SJ_WomenAgainstPredators]

This went from 0 to Shane Dawson real quick

[@zacharyoneill3490]

Sjondel “hey what’s up you guys, YES”

[@SJ_WomenAgainstPredators]

That's how it should've started!

[@anaduvnjak9265]

This is the best comment I’ve seen yet!

[@ellipsisms]

I read that as Julien imitating Shane.

[@fijiapples5122]

Sjondel FOR THE 100th TIME. SHANE-DIDN’T-INVENT-CONSPIRACY-THEORIES 🖕🏼🖕🏼

[@MissNikkiGregory]

Imagine if that Taured guy disappeared from the room, and woke up in his bed. His dream was our reality.

[@festivalrat]

hey, stop that

[@d1sasteroid]

it’s too late for this matey

[@whitenoizzze]

STOOOOOOOOPPPPPPP I NEED TO GO TO BED LMAO!! YOU HURT MY MIND...

[@Chances126]

my brain just went boom

[@HavenGray]

Noooiiice

[@queenlover1232]

I always forget that Jenna has degrees in psychology

[@thenameisclassified]

Jenna has a degree in physical therapy

[@teerah003]

She’s got a MEd in Sports Psych & counselling. She’s not a mental illness expert, she’s trained to teach athletes.

[@teerah003]

Daggeira also... what symptoms did she mention that are not linked to BPD I or II? Because hallucinations are definitely possible due to many factors?

[@znyznyzny]

Daggeira people said she was bipolar, Jenna didn't make it up.

[@MrYami0]

Thats irrelevant. If she did study Sports Psych & counselling she had to take psychopathology and Personality psychology. You are right about not been a mental illness expert, but its something pretty basic.

[@gkd839]

4:27 - Jameson family 19:57 - elisa lam 36:44 - man from torrid 44:27 - fart

[@brittjuh9344]

Thnx for the Fart thing😄

[@soda_fairy]

Appreciated

[@blossom-hn9in]

you spelled “taurid” wrong

[@evilmelody661]

i love you for the fart stamp

[@sianthompson3511]

Salty Sapphire so did you

[@Binxie_]

Y'all should make a pillow fort and do a podcast in it. Like it could either be a fun nice cozy one or a conspiracy one like yes fam scare the shit out of us while being comfy

[@caitb262]

Allie Marie fort cast 2k18

[@kiricamel]

Yes please that is such a good idea 👌😍

[@_theeb]

Allie Marie Yes!

[@ravitrageravit]

Yessssss. Then we could all make our own forts and feel like the whole dinkfam is having the dopest slumber party.

[@megc9815]

dream corner cast?? :)

[@theonlyenchantressdeadrose1296]

Deffiently more !!!!! This was one of my fave podcasts - 💋💗💗

[@omariii9112]

saameeeeee !!!!!!!

[@feedmeaftermidnight1035]

Definitely

[@XricheeX]

Real Bride Of Chucky same im so into this shit

[@gbabyjzphil23]

Real Bride Of Chucky yes, same!

[@kikacid203]

How do you fuck that word up so badly???? But I agree. Deffiently more!

[@BenJenVideos]

I have a conspiracy theory that Jenna wants everyone to get EXCITED about their LIFE

[@Rawr98]

Ben Jen DUNNA NA DUNNA na naaaaahhh

[@h.b.2003]

Ben Jen 😂😂😳

[@ericadonaldson117]

Way to lighten the mood! Haha

[@juliality]

I literally just looked for another conspiracy podcast and then u upload THIS HELL YEAAAH!!!

[@margot2104]

Julia luckyyyy 😁😁

[@cabau3876]

Listen to mile high podcast, they are only starting but are doing their best

[@capturedbyken2936]

Check out “Bizarre States” , “Expanded Perspectives” , “Stuff They Don’t Want You To Know” and “Lizard People : Comedy & Conspiracy Theories” ....I’m a podcast addict lol

[@juliality]

ohhh yesss thanks fellow podcast addict haha

[@juliality]

oooo yes I love Kendall, I'll be sure to check it out

[@sunna8476]

Jenna: why would a cult leader wanna kill their members?? Me: YOU'VE NEVER HEARD OF JONESTOWN JENNA??? HELLo!

[@SugarPlumzzz]

That's is very true, that actually happens often.

[@sarahdovich8366]

Or heavens gate.

[@estherbutt4341]

I haven’t, someone explain 😂😬

[@faithkap]

EB I’m a little late but whatever Heaven’s gate and Jonestown were both mass suicides committed by cults. Jonestown was kool aid laced with cyanide. heaven’s gate members died within the span of a few days with various alcohols and chemicals. Cult leaders will draw as many people as they can in and often end up killing themselves and their most loyal members. Also, if someone tried to leave a cult, the leader might get violent and try to take them out to keep the “secrets”. There was an instance where a cult leader told the members they had drank poison, but they hadn’t. He was doing a test run to see which of the members panicked, and kicked them out, keeping the most loyal members for the actual suicide days later. (I don’t remember which cult it was)

[@MarkelleRayneeSheree]

Yeah I feel like cults end in death more often than not

[@devsox1]

I need more of these!! I'm literally drooling for more! That last one was awesome holy shit

[@wildflowersmamaa]

devsox1 you might like the vanished podcast

[@vanessamadambutterfly2018]

Check out the channel Alyssa Nicole true crime!

[@nola1439]

Guys, the man from taured is an urban legend. It resembles a famous book, and there’s no evidence of it actually happening. No concrete evidence of the event at all. It’s a sci-fi story from the 1982 book A Directory of Possibilities people are just assuming is real with no evidence. It is easy to debunk since no Japanese authority has a record of it happening and no newspaper reported it.

[@devsox1]

Anna I know, I read that in the comments. I knew it was too good to be true lol

[@ceezed2230]

OK I was hoping you'd look at Elisa Lam. I looked into it a lot since I relate to her and because of how tragic it is. As Jenna said, bipolar disorder is both a mood disorder and a psychotic disorder, with psychosis more common in manic episodes. From the toxicology reports we know that she had been taking her anti depressants but not her anti psychotics - this is a formula for a severe manic episode. This was likely because she had this big trip planned and didn't want her depression ruining it. That in my opinion explains her strange behaviour, although I know a lot of people disagree. Also, in the research I did, it appears the water tank is not as inaccessible as some reports claim. The pictures out there also are from an angle where you can't see the way to get up there - there is access. People have worked out the weight of the lid and it's light enough for one woman to open it factoring in the hinge. Also, people have gone back to the hotel to see whether they could get on the roof and they could do it with no issue. This was something that I would say was the hotel covering their back - they claimed it was impossible for guests to access the roof so they wouldn't be liable, when it is possible that a staff member just left a door/window open that should have been kept locked for example. The fact that the door stayed open - she needed glasses and wasn't wearing them. This could be due to the bipolar thinking she doesn't need them. But she ended up mashing buttons because of this. Many elevators have a hold button that will keep the doors open for a while, for example for some staff needs this may be handy. I think she pressed this and it was a sick coincidence that it closed just as she left. It may have saved her life otherwise. Since the doors weren't closing, she thought she'd find her own way up to her room and ended up using the service ladders outside, and got on the roof. From there her psychosis explains why she wanted to get in the water tank. Who knows what she was thinking, and a manic person's thinking doesn't necessarily make sense outside of that state of mind. She seems like an amazing young woman who met a terribly tragic end. I wish she was still with us.

[@Ekoloco29]

Cee Zed I think you nailed it

[@kara7054]

I have to agree, this makes the most sense to me. My best friend (who has bipolar disorder) has shared some of his experiences with me, and I'll just say that psychotic episodes can be terrifying and make you do seemingly bizarre and dangerous things

[@em-mm7rl]

that doesnt explain why she was naked and had all of her belongings though

[@choncho6112]

I mean it kind of does. If she's having a manic episode, maybe she decided she wanted to go swimming so she took her clothes off? I think that her clothes and stuff being with her in the tank isn't that strange when you consider a manic episode. It also could easily have been put in their with her body if someone killed her.

[@adrianamichelle9358]

Same, my friend has Bipolar II and has experienced psychosis episodes where she was convinced that a man was hiding under her bed. Pretty scary stuff... and I don't know- it is probable that Elisa made it up to the roof and decided to go into the tank willingly (for what reason we may never know). Once she was inside, it may have been more difficult for her to push the tank cover upwards. From there maybe she decided to take off her clothes /lose the weight of them in order to get out. I don't know.That case is upsetting for many reasons...

[@imalloutofgin]

Me: I don't believe in ghosts. *after the podcast* Me: GHOSTS ARE REAL AND AFTER ALL OF US OH FUCK.

[@nutmeg13sm]

imallout ofgin I always said I didn’t believe in ghost and that kind of stuff but after that podcast before the wreck and them having the wreck the day it was released I fucking believe. That shit was FUCKED

[@koda5173]

Ghosts? pSHhh *2nd mystery* GET INTO THE BUNKER AND GRAB THE KIDS WE GOTTA GO

[@sese6227]

imallout ofgin I never believed im ghosts either...but Morgan (from Shane Dawson's videos) has a pretty convincing story. It really started to make me questions things. This video has the same affect.

[@rhiisabean8144]

When I woke up today, I told myself that I was going to go to sleep early tonight. That was, in fact, a lie. It's two AM and I'm on my third one of these creepy ass podcasts wHy Do I dO tHiS tO mYsElF

[@ariellamae1567]

Rhi Is A Bean WAIT YES ME TOO 2:30am I’m supposed to wake up at 4:45 for a series of plane rides with like 170000000000000 layovers. I fuckin hate myself.

[@wutsit2yuhhuh246]

Rhi Is A Bean *melatonin.*

[@applesfurandscales3847]

I do the same thing almost every night

[@alanahshanae1789]

Rhi Is A Bean sameeeeee

[@ThatSB]

2 am isnt that late. I was gona go to bed early by going to bed before 5 am. Its now 7 55

[@shedyouryell0w]

Buzzfeed Unsolved is quaking

[@Joojoobeans]

shedyouryell0w *wheezes in cermet*

[@Olivia-cl6ww]

I came here from a bfu video 😂 it was in the recommended

[@karie9705]

quote cermet end quote

[@bb-mf6qh]

This is the scariest "unsolved mystery" of my life, I don't tell this story to many people because I'm scared they won't believe me, but it's terrifying and we never came to a solid conclusion to what was going on. I was 16 at the time living in a trailer with my Mom and 3 siblings, in a small trailer park with about 10 trailers in total. The park was sandwiched between a homeless shelter and a gas station so we met a lot of weirdos. Our neighbor was a sweet old crazy cat man with disabilities that made it hard to walk and he had like 20 cats always outside hanging out, we had been his neighbor before we moved here too so just for preference there's no way it was him. My mom worked the night shift from 11 pm to 7 am and got a 1 hour lunch break at 3 am. It was summer so me and my sister would stay up pretty late watching KZbin and ironically most of the time it was scary stories or horror movies. The only tv was in my mom's room at the very end of the trailer towards the side that's near the gas station. There was only one window in her room and it was on the side of the house facing my neighbor's home, and we had a small air conditioning unit sticking in it. If you've ever been in a trailer or even outside of one you will know that you can hear everything outside and if you're outside you can hear everything going on in. I think this started within the first week of summer break, me and my sister would be watching scary stories and when 2 am rolled around we would hear heavy footsteps outside of the trailer. Starting from the front of the trailer and stopping right in front of the window. The first time it happend they were only there for about 3 minutes before we heard the footsteps continue and disappear, we woke my brother up and he walked around the trailer looking for anyone. He said it was probably just one of the cats but me and my sister both agree it was heavy human footsteps. Not tiny cat steps. When my mom came home in the morning we told her about it and she said it probably wouldn't happen again but it was creepy. It kept happening over and over again and I would keep track of the time that they stood outside of the window and it kept getting longer and longer. It was disturbing you could hear the person breathing some nights, or shifting their weight from one foot to the other. Some nights we would go get my brother as soon as we heard the steps and he would run outside and no one would be there, other nights we would call my mom and she would come check on us at 3. One night my sister had fallen asleep early and I was the only one awake when the footsteps came, this night I heard something being moved around on the ground under the window. It kinda sounded like something being dropped or tripped over, this scared the shit out of me so I walked over to the window and yelled that I was calling the cops, but I didn't hear anything. I called my mom and she still had 30 minutes before she went on break and I waited the entire time by the window waiting for the footsteps to start again, my mom drives a loud car with bright blue headlights so it's a dead giveaway when she's coming home because you can hear her and see the blue through the windows. This person must have done this enough to recognise it because the footsteps started and I heard them sprinting away. Like 5 seconds later I hear my mom running around the house, she came inside and said she didn't see anyone, but it's insane to me because she barely missed them. Maybe that was a good thing though. In the morning we found that the paneling underneath my mom's window had been pulled off and there was a huge gaping hole showing underneath our trailer. My mom eventually got a different job and it stopped happening as soon as she was there at night. It's creeps me the hell out thinking about it, especially because we never got closure. And yeah we called the cops once but they basically said it's not illegal to walk around at night and it's probably nothing.

[@bubbleruler515]

Princess Moonlight that’s really fucked. Also, it’s an odd coincidence that I’m reading this from the front room of my trailer. How creepily fitting.

[@emilioj22]

I decided not to read this because i live in a trailer park. I’m too scared

[@bente1695]

The hole sounds like someone might’ve either been storing stuff under your trailer or living there secretly. Very creepy!

[@psychoticserenity6510]

here is my advice to you,STOP watching scary movies late at night! lol i think your mind was playing tricks on you. hopefully u really werent being stalked.

[@LadyHarley]

I believe you/ but to me it sounds like the person was really good at getting out of sight quickly. They probably just wanted to take shelter under your home. Just make sure to learn how to ward off intruders by making things uncertain to them. Cause they’re less likely to bother you if you’re in an unpredictable house. Meaning that you put out things to scare them. Like sensor lights, cameras, security protection signs, fake cameras. Get a dog. Even a small one will make a lot of noise. Having kids toys outside will make them less likely to come near cause they wouldn’t wanna trip on them. There’s tons of stuff you can do as well. Just research. Stay safe!

[@HiMeMeYT]

The death of Elisa Lam absolutely freaks me out and the video footage is one of the creepiest things I've ever seen. But I did some research and now I am pretty convinced that she had a manic episode and climbed into the water tank by herself (for whatever reason, probably hallucination or maybe "just for fun" in her mind). Here are some things I found answers to: - why was the elevator door not closing? very simple explanation: by looking outside all the time she was constantly triggering the sensor that caused the door to stay open. Obviously it closed once she walked out and no one was triggering the sensor anymore. - why does the video footage seem altered? This is just a theory but there might have been another person with her in the elevator at some point (who then walked out again because they were scared by her behavior) who had absolutely nothing to do with her death. Naturally the police wanted to protect the identity of that person because obviously the public would have developed wild theories without any actual proof to back them up (which obviously backfired). - how did she get into the water tank? Contrary to popular belief there actually was a ladder on the tank, like a fire escape or something. And the lid itself wasn't impossible to lift either. And she would have totally been able to lift it, especially under the high influence of adrenaline caused by her manic phase. There is a video by a chinise vlogger who visited the hotel, climbed on the roof (without any alarm going off), he went to "her" water tank and the lid was even OPEN. So it certainly doesn't seem impossible anymore. - why were her clothes floating next to her? It's likely that the lid closed itself (because of gravity) after she opened it a little and slid through. So at some point shortly after she must have realized that she'd made a huge mistake. Or maybe she didn't and her following actions were just out of instinct. You might know that wet clothes are extremely heavy. That's why when she jumped into the water tank and her clothes were basically causing her to drown, her first instinct was obviously to take them off. The cause of her death was drowning after all. Opening the lid from inside would have been impossible after a while she must have ran out of energy to continue swimming and just drowned. The saddest part to me is that her manic episode might have been over at this point, so she might have been clear again, and there she was, trapped in a water tank where nobody would hear her scream for help. This is horrible. My sources for this were the wikipedia page and a reddit post that linked to the toxicology report and other documents. On a different note: I think the story about the man from Taurid is totally made up. There is no official proof of any of this ever happening and the only source for this is a magazine (or book) that appeared in the last century that was about urban legends. So... doesn't seem legit to me at all. It's a fun story though. Sorry about any grammar mistakes, english is not my first language. I hope it's still somewhat readable.

[@marli8907]

you are right about much of this. The lid was only 20 lbs (it was a hatch), and once inside, it was unreachable. It was found OPEN not closed. There was a ladder outside where it could be reached for maintenance, but there was not one inside (because why would you need it)? And yes, as she became exhausted and cold she might've taken off her clothes. Because like how a fever can make us feel freezing since our bodies are burning, if you're freezing to death, your body will feel like it's on fire. and you will rid yourself of clothing.

[@eating-rocks]

It's also somewhat common to take your clothes off if you get hypothermia because you feel overheated as the body tries to warm up and in a dilutional state, you try to cool off. So if the water in the tank was cold, that could explain why she was naked

[@tamarah9143]

thats some good English. 100% readable. great job

[@chumuheha]

Thank you for this. I like J&J but there are plenty of very practical explanations for Elisa Lam's death and I think it's a bad practice to completely ignore them in favor for pure speculation. I think with many things it's better to use Occam's Razor and just recognize that it's much more probable that this woman, with a history of a mental delusions, having the exact conditions needed to trigger a manic episode, managed to accidentally kill herself. It's not really that out there.

[@shooglechic]

@@chumuheha this hotel is notorious for holding a serial killer and rapists. For all we know, Lam was fighting with a custodian who has access to the elevator, security footage, water tower.

[@DianaKim91]

Here's an unsolved mystery: THAT CROOKED PIN RACK!

[@KuraYou]

Was solved right then and there.

[@DarkRubberDucky]

OHHHHHHHHHH!

[@NaasirVoid]

i love watching while i eat lunch

[@soundwave546]

Naasir Void I’ve been seeing u everywhere damn

[@CadetPanda]

I'm eating lunch right now

[@gloria1736]

Same

[@Acey1010]

same, just dinner time for me lol

[@julie717]

Same 😂

[@rileydcrow]

Julien: We’re obviously not gonna solve these Jenna: *SOLVES THE ENTIRE MANDELA EFFECT* (probably)

[@ashleyking1695]

Kinda late here but for the first theory....my dad used to be a heavy meth user. His delusions were crazy. And he would try to convince me of these delusions and go to great lengths to prove to me that they were true. He would talk about people following him, planting poison in his food/polluting his air. He once thought the neighbors were spying on us and stood on a table to look over the fence, the table fell through and he cracked his head open. Meth causes such crazy dilutions I can see them leaving the money during a delusion and running from "someone watching them". Maybe getting lost in the woods, or being so "strung out" after the high they slept there until they died. My dad could sleep for a full week after doing meth. Or they could have overdosed. Idk but it is definitely drug related, I don't think it was a murder.

[@girlcowboy]

I know this comment is old, but there was actually no evidence saying the Jamison’s (the first family) EVER did meth. This is misinformation on Jenna and Juliens part.

[@gabbyaros893]

My boyfriends friend got mixed up with meth. And on Halloween we decided to take him to our favorite park and hold an intervention for him. During the intervention he told us that it was actually December 25th and that we had been living the same day over and over again. He said the only way he was keeping any of us alive was by doing these crazy hand movements that he thought were spells. When we dropped him off at his house before he got out of the car he looked us all in the eyes and said someone’s gonna die in a sing song voice before looking at one of our other friends and saying it’s you and then running into his house. Needless to say we don’t talk to him much anymore.

[@sunflowercara8691]

@@gabbyaros893 that sounds horrifying

[@Dazyet]

My only thing about the meth overdose theory is that I don’t think they would also force the daughter to do meth with them and die in that position.

[@kaliyay7590]

The amount of money they had, they could have been really strung out. Like really really strung out. (Idk if they did drugs or not, I'd never heard of this case before. But theres something called Folie à deux, which is shared delusions. If you've ever heard of the Tromp case, it's kinda similar.) but the kid wouldn't go far if the parents passed away. I know its depressing to think about, but she wouldn't have any idea what to do, I think she'd stay, dead parents or not. But i still see it being a murder suicide thing or a drug related murder more than that. Youd have to really be out of your right mind to out your child in danger ya know. The whole situation is so sad, especially thinking about how it could have been solved if they'd found them sooner 😕