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[@dallonpilled]

I forget that Jenna majored in Psychology sometimes

[@Ricky-bv4kv]

Tracie Porter she’s truly so well spoken and her knowledge on certain topics just makes her such a captivating speaker

[@josephtaylor8393]

I’m pretty sure she has forgotten that she majored in psychology

[@Beespank]

I've been watching her for so long, how did I not know this??? I've always found her super insightful about stuff tho so I'm rly not at all surprised.

[@fredericksinclair]

@@Beespank just because you majored in psychology, doesn't mean you are super insightfull

[@MamacitaaBackup]

@@fredericksinclair She wasn't implying that. She's simply stating that that specific quality in Jenna probably goes hand and hand with what she's studied. Idk if I said that right but got damn why ya gotta be that guy

[@big.fav0r]

I love that they live in la and are always dressed like its 15 degrees out

[@emely1882]

baby angel I live in NY where it can get below 15 degrees outside and I can guarantee you we would not be wearing just a hoodie and a beanie in 15 degree weather. You would catch me wearing a winter coat and Tims😂

[@d6sires]

same lmao when I lived in California I would also dress like it was 15 degrees when it was like 90 something degrees

[@Ash.Music.Covers]

In Texas it sometimes get to 15 degrees

[@alice80085]

emely SAME I FEEL YOU

[@adarIing]

PLOT TWIST: It's 15 degrees in their house.

[@raythegoth]

It's actually easier to think that Jenna has travelled to an alternate universe or dimension than it is to process that she's left the internet indefinitely

[@madisondalton4981]

bro stop i’m gonna cri

[@driverjayne]

😥 she's just prepping really hard for her basketball season

[@lizdegrasse7960]

*waits for white hole to bring her back* lmfao

[@LittleCutieABDL]

Seems legit - I'll always look up with my binoculars; maybe she's having a great time in the Virgo constellation. Hope she is

[@anushkalols]

Is she really never coming back?😿

[@emjl6082]

Jenna- "I could never be a police officer, i'd be sad all the time" Me- *literally listening to this podcast while working for the sex crime division* Me- pretty much yep.

[@nyx6625]

Oh that sucks...

[@Lionhearted626]

Oh shit... are you staying in the job because it’s important?

[@Izzy-ch2vr]

Your work is so massively important and appreciated

[@yamix7266]

What is it like? Other than being sad.

[@evilpatrick9562]

Weird flex but ok

[@snacciboii8961]

Julien: reads mysteries Jenna: *Visible distress*

[@HeartOfClod]

"I've never done meth." I'm so proud of you, sweetie, you're doing great.

[@syrussthagreat237]

I've done meth with my dad !

[@kaanonen7873]

@@syrussthagreat237 k watchu want a scooby snack ?

[@aaaaaah0]

@@syrussthagreat237 are you good?

[@redphoenixfire7755]

@@syrussthagreat237 same but with my grandma

[@syrussthagreat237]

@@kaanonen7873 😂😂😂

[@chelseaschaf8885]

When they started talking about ad...😭 #RIP❤️#ad

[@dftblood2048]

Chelsea Schaf he ain't dead??

[@monagarcia1803]

bts shrimp he is sadly

[@eryaviel]

RIP Ad. :(

[@giannakelly2011]

mona garcia what?! What happened

[@abbeyjay1125]

Gianna Kelly he passed of old age

[@kellfrillman4199]

I was at the Cecil the same weekend that Elisa went missing, a creepy guy tried following me into the hotel and toward the elevator, and the front desk got SUPER alarmed and intercepted him while I ran for the elevator. I was creeped out by the guy but even more creeped at how alarmed the front desk people were as if they knew him and he'd tried this before... all I did was glance at them and mouth 'help' when I walked in. Then this whole crazy thing went down and found out she went missing at the same time... I always wonder if that could've been me.

[@jesuusch]

I’m glad you were safe, it’s just sad that Elisa wasn’t able to be saved.

[@squirrelbeez5123]

:0 that’s scary, thank god your okay

[@charlotteriddle7303]

Did u talk to the police bout this?

[@kellfrillman4199]

Charlotte Riddle I tried but I’m pretty sure they just thought I was a crazy person lol... they took my description and didn’t contact me again

[@M377ow]

I've had friends staying at that hostel, I've been down there myself. Seen and heard shit that you wouldn't believe. Most people staying in the area are unaware that you're staying on the end of skid row.

[@terrible_tyson]

"Hopefully you're not eating now" *Me stopping mid bite*

[@LittleSprout73]

I imagine your profile picture being the face you made mid bite

[@hayleyh7091]

I did the same thing 😂

[@angelinagorobchenko5443]

Same- but I’m always eating 😎

[@hejohnmeyer3]

Same!!

[@SJ-kx6no]

Me too😄

[@morganwadsworth5778]

I love when jenna talks about psychology and sociology it’s so interesting

[@neena8604]

i'm like 99% sure she has a degree in psychology, but i might be wrong

[@alyssanelson8612]

neen bean fighting machine You’re correct. She has a masters degree in psychology.

[@samantharosee_xx6810]

This is random, but the way Jenna has changed over the last 5-10 years is insane. Looking at her back in 2011-2013 vs. now is CRAZY. Her personality is so different, in a good way! Julien is so good for you, boo.

[@tarameame9581]

boo. let's bring back boo

[@tacosandwh0rechata]

Havent they been together for 9 years though.. why is her progression of personality based on a man instead of a woman living her life..

[@scivnce4273]

@@tacosandwh0rechata amen

[@bailey9134]

I was just rewatching her old videos to compare her to now!!! So true!

[@halloweendancing]

I think she’s been good for him too! That’s the #goal in a good relationship

[@maritzaflores2000]

When Jenna and Julien talk about Ad they sound like parents that's three other kids were flops and Ad is the only one that turned out right. . . . I guess he really was #ripad

[@Ishiskebsiabbsixnd]

I have a conspiracy that Jenna has never had a basketball game

[@marianna3253]

Isabella J It's tomorroooooow

[@BeLikeNexus]

This is blasphemy DELETE

[@voodoochild7533]

I’m scared

[@theirmanager5204]

Naw bitch, it's tomorrow

[@lex6blue]

It was a volleyball game this whole time

[@nadia5076]

I'm kinda sad naturebox isn't a sponsor because when Jenna said "I need a snack too" all I could think was MISSED OPPORTUNITY FOR A SEGUE

[@TheLangleyLife]

PLEASE. DO. MORE. OF. THESE.

[@TheLangleyLife]

Also the hotel IS haunted. It's the hotel "American Horror Story Hotel" is based off of. Look it up, her death is only one of MANY! Def paranormal if you ask me.

[@TheLangleyLife]

ALSO, its possible she was pressing so many buttons because she was trying to confuse whoever was following her. Example: press button 1-4-7-9-12-15 blah blah blah and get off on a random floor so if anyone is trying to track what floor you're going to, it's difficult if the elevator is stopping multiple times.

[@MoeCo8]

The Langley Life .mmmmjm)pp]pmkm

[@LadyDynamitez]

There was also this theory that she was playing this one korean (?) elevator game, I remember reading about. But the AHSH wasn't based on that hotel contrary to popular belief, it was another hotel, But Cecil hotel had a lot of serial killers staying there etc.

[@gkd839]

4:27 - Jameson family 19:57 - elisa lam 36:44 - man from torrid 44:27 - fart

[@brittjuh9344]

Thnx for the Fart thing😄

[@soda_fairy]

Appreciated

[@blossom-hn9in]

you spelled “taurid” wrong

[@evilmelody661]

i love you for the fart stamp

[@sianthompson3511]

Salty Sapphire so did you

[@beccajean4418]

Btw the Jamison’s dog lived and was fine after getting found :)

[@alexishamel7843]

Becca Jean ......hows he/she doin now

[@ThatAnimalChannel]

Thats the one of the 3 family members in the woods? always the best news when the doggo makes it!

[@alexishamel7843]

Woah that’s me

[@scivnce4273]

@@alexishamel7843 how dare you assume its a he or she. Maybe ita a they

[@alexishamel7843]

No No how funny

[@HiMeMeYT]

The death of Elisa Lam absolutely freaks me out and the video footage is one of the creepiest things I've ever seen. But I did some research and now I am pretty convinced that she had a manic episode and climbed into the water tank by herself (for whatever reason, probably hallucination or maybe "just for fun" in her mind). Here are some things I found answers to: - why was the elevator door not closing? very simple explanation: by looking outside all the time she was constantly triggering the sensor that caused the door to stay open. Obviously it closed once she walked out and no one was triggering the sensor anymore. - why does the video footage seem altered? This is just a theory but there might have been another person with her in the elevator at some point (who then walked out again because they were scared by her behavior) who had absolutely nothing to do with her death. Naturally the police wanted to protect the identity of that person because obviously the public would have developed wild theories without any actual proof to back them up (which obviously backfired). - how did she get into the water tank? Contrary to popular belief there actually was a ladder on the tank, like a fire escape or something. And the lid itself wasn't impossible to lift either. And she would have totally been able to lift it, especially under the high influence of adrenaline caused by her manic phase. There is a video by a chinise vlogger who visited the hotel, climbed on the roof (without any alarm going off), he went to "her" water tank and the lid was even OPEN. So it certainly doesn't seem impossible anymore. - why were her clothes floating next to her? It's likely that the lid closed itself (because of gravity) after she opened it a little and slid through. So at some point shortly after she must have realized that she'd made a huge mistake. Or maybe she didn't and her following actions were just out of instinct. You might know that wet clothes are extremely heavy. That's why when she jumped into the water tank and her clothes were basically causing her to drown, her first instinct was obviously to take them off. The cause of her death was drowning after all. Opening the lid from inside would have been impossible after a while she must have ran out of energy to continue swimming and just drowned. The saddest part to me is that her manic episode might have been over at this point, so she might have been clear again, and there she was, trapped in a water tank where nobody would hear her scream for help. This is horrible. My sources for this were the wikipedia page and a reddit post that linked to the toxicology report and other documents. On a different note: I think the story about the man from Taurid is totally made up. There is no official proof of any of this ever happening and the only source for this is a magazine (or book) that appeared in the last century that was about urban legends. So... doesn't seem legit to me at all. It's a fun story though. Sorry about any grammar mistakes, english is not my first language. I hope it's still somewhat readable.

[@marli8907]

you are right about much of this. The lid was only 20 lbs (it was a hatch), and once inside, it was unreachable. It was found OPEN not closed. There was a ladder outside where it could be reached for maintenance, but there was not one inside (because why would you need it)? And yes, as she became exhausted and cold she might've taken off her clothes. Because like how a fever can make us feel freezing since our bodies are burning, if you're freezing to death, your body will feel like it's on fire. and you will rid yourself of clothing.

[@eating-rocks]

It's also somewhat common to take your clothes off if you get hypothermia because you feel overheated as the body tries to warm up and in a dilutional state, you try to cool off. So if the water in the tank was cold, that could explain why she was naked

[@tamarah9143]

thats some good English. 100% readable. great job

[@chumuheha]

Thank you for this. I like J&J but there are plenty of very practical explanations for Elisa Lam's death and I think it's a bad practice to completely ignore them in favor for pure speculation. I think with many things it's better to use Occam's Razor and just recognize that it's much more probable that this woman, with a history of a mental delusions, having the exact conditions needed to trigger a manic episode, managed to accidentally kill herself. It's not really that out there.

[@shooglechic]

@@chumuheha this hotel is notorious for holding a serial killer and rapists. For all we know, Lam was fighting with a custodian who has access to the elevator, security footage, water tower.

[@laurenmaxwell6954]

Its been a year please make another unsolved mysteries pod cast PLEASSSSSSSSEEE! We loved this video

[@Oswadomob]

I agree

[@kalebgent4777]

It’s been 2 years PLEASE

[@Sleepingwei]

Kaleb Gent too bad the podcast doesn't exist anymore 😔

[@PossiblyAlena]

Jenna: “This was in the United States?” Julien: “This WAS in the United States.” Jenna, under her breath: “.....shit.....”

[@Humanh8red]

@9:22 I don’t even see her lips move. This is freaking me out !!

[@PossiblyAlena]

@@Humanh8red bro watching it back I'm pretty sure it's Julien making the noise??? But idk

[@The_Lucky_Ace777]

the Jamison Family story happened like 20 minutes from my home town and it's terrifying

[@shaylaya2499]

she actually didn't say that! if you replay it and listen closely it's julien that makes a noise that sounds like the word!

[@cherrycokee]

@@The_Lucky_Ace777oh nah thats so scary, do we know if there was a conclusive cause of death and what happened in the end?

[@Zeennuh]

Make a dog bed out of Irish spring so Kermit can rub his body all over it

[@jennig3057]

Zena Aumada THIS IS AMAZING!!! 💚🖤💚

[@jamesschmidt5827]

Zena Aumada YESSSSS

[@MarkelleRayneeSheree]

YES!!!

[@znyznyzny]

Mister Physics wasn't the first comment to have this idea lol

[@angiealfaro6968]

Boi do I have news for you

[@tatumisweird]

I NEED A PART 2 AND A PART 3 AND MORE!! Scrolling through that twitter thread was mind-blowing and terrifying. I need J&J's opinions on all of these mysteries

[@ceezed2230]

OK I was hoping you'd look at Elisa Lam. I looked into it a lot since I relate to her and because of how tragic it is. As Jenna said, bipolar disorder is both a mood disorder and a psychotic disorder, with psychosis more common in manic episodes. From the toxicology reports we know that she had been taking her anti depressants but not her anti psychotics - this is a formula for a severe manic episode. This was likely because she had this big trip planned and didn't want her depression ruining it. That in my opinion explains her strange behaviour, although I know a lot of people disagree. Also, in the research I did, it appears the water tank is not as inaccessible as some reports claim. The pictures out there also are from an angle where you can't see the way to get up there - there is access. People have worked out the weight of the lid and it's light enough for one woman to open it factoring in the hinge. Also, people have gone back to the hotel to see whether they could get on the roof and they could do it with no issue. This was something that I would say was the hotel covering their back - they claimed it was impossible for guests to access the roof so they wouldn't be liable, when it is possible that a staff member just left a door/window open that should have been kept locked for example. The fact that the door stayed open - she needed glasses and wasn't wearing them. This could be due to the bipolar thinking she doesn't need them. But she ended up mashing buttons because of this. Many elevators have a hold button that will keep the doors open for a while, for example for some staff needs this may be handy. I think she pressed this and it was a sick coincidence that it closed just as she left. It may have saved her life otherwise. Since the doors weren't closing, she thought she'd find her own way up to her room and ended up using the service ladders outside, and got on the roof. From there her psychosis explains why she wanted to get in the water tank. Who knows what she was thinking, and a manic person's thinking doesn't necessarily make sense outside of that state of mind. She seems like an amazing young woman who met a terribly tragic end. I wish she was still with us.

[@Ektl29]

Cee Zed I think you nailed it

[@kara7054]

I have to agree, this makes the most sense to me. My best friend (who has bipolar disorder) has shared some of his experiences with me, and I'll just say that psychotic episodes can be terrifying and make you do seemingly bizarre and dangerous things

[@em-mm7rl]

that doesnt explain why she was naked and had all of her belongings though

[@choncho6112]

I mean it kind of does. If she's having a manic episode, maybe she decided she wanted to go swimming so she took her clothes off? I think that her clothes and stuff being with her in the tank isn't that strange when you consider a manic episode. It also could easily have been put in their with her body if someone killed her.

[@adrianamichelle9358]

Same, my friend has Bipolar II and has experienced psychosis episodes where she was convinced that a man was hiding under her bed. Pretty scary stuff... and I don't know- it is probable that Elisa made it up to the roof and decided to go into the tank willingly (for what reason we may never know). Once she was inside, it may have been more difficult for her to push the tank cover upwards. From there maybe she decided to take off her clothes /lose the weight of them in order to get out. I don't know.That case is upsetting for many reasons...

[@bb-mf6qh]

This is the scariest "unsolved mystery" of my life, I don't tell this story to many people because I'm scared they won't believe me, but it's terrifying and we never came to a solid conclusion to what was going on. I was 16 at the time living in a trailer with my Mom and 3 siblings, in a small trailer park with about 10 trailers in total. The park was sandwiched between a homeless shelter and a gas station so we met a lot of weirdos. Our neighbor was a sweet old crazy cat man with disabilities that made it hard to walk and he had like 20 cats always outside hanging out, we had been his neighbor before we moved here too so just for preference there's no way it was him. My mom worked the night shift from 11 pm to 7 am and got a 1 hour lunch break at 3 am. It was summer so me and my sister would stay up pretty late watching KZbin and ironically most of the time it was scary stories or horror movies. The only tv was in my mom's room at the very end of the trailer towards the side that's near the gas station. There was only one window in her room and it was on the side of the house facing my neighbor's home, and we had a small air conditioning unit sticking in it. If you've ever been in a trailer or even outside of one you will know that you can hear everything outside and if you're outside you can hear everything going on in. I think this started within the first week of summer break, me and my sister would be watching scary stories and when 2 am rolled around we would hear heavy footsteps outside of the trailer. Starting from the front of the trailer and stopping right in front of the window. The first time it happend they were only there for about 3 minutes before we heard the footsteps continue and disappear, we woke my brother up and he walked around the trailer looking for anyone. He said it was probably just one of the cats but me and my sister both agree it was heavy human footsteps. Not tiny cat steps. When my mom came home in the morning we told her about it and she said it probably wouldn't happen again but it was creepy. It kept happening over and over again and I would keep track of the time that they stood outside of the window and it kept getting longer and longer. It was disturbing you could hear the person breathing some nights, or shifting their weight from one foot to the other. Some nights we would go get my brother as soon as we heard the steps and he would run outside and no one would be there, other nights we would call my mom and she would come check on us at 3. One night my sister had fallen asleep early and I was the only one awake when the footsteps came, this night I heard something being moved around on the ground under the window. It kinda sounded like something being dropped or tripped over, this scared the shit out of me so I walked over to the window and yelled that I was calling the cops, but I didn't hear anything. I called my mom and she still had 30 minutes before she went on break and I waited the entire time by the window waiting for the footsteps to start again, my mom drives a loud car with bright blue headlights so it's a dead giveaway when she's coming home because you can hear her and see the blue through the windows. This person must have done this enough to recognise it because the footsteps started and I heard them sprinting away. Like 5 seconds later I hear my mom running around the house, she came inside and said she didn't see anyone, but it's insane to me because she barely missed them. Maybe that was a good thing though. In the morning we found that the paneling underneath my mom's window had been pulled off and there was a huge gaping hole showing underneath our trailer. My mom eventually got a different job and it stopped happening as soon as she was there at night. It's creeps me the hell out thinking about it, especially because we never got closure. And yeah we called the cops once but they basically said it's not illegal to walk around at night and it's probably nothing.

[@bubbleruler515]

Princess Moonlight that’s really fucked. Also, it’s an odd coincidence that I’m reading this from the front room of my trailer. How creepily fitting.

[@emilioj22]

I decided not to read this because i live in a trailer park. I’m too scared

[@bente1695]

The hole sounds like someone might’ve either been storing stuff under your trailer or living there secretly. Very creepy!

[@psychoticserenity6510]

here is my advice to you,STOP watching scary movies late at night! lol i think your mind was playing tricks on you. hopefully u really werent being stalked.

[@LadyHarley]

I believe you/ but to me it sounds like the person was really good at getting out of sight quickly. They probably just wanted to take shelter under your home. Just make sure to learn how to ward off intruders by making things uncertain to them. Cause they’re less likely to bother you if you’re in an unpredictable house. Meaning that you put out things to scare them. Like sensor lights, cameras, security protection signs, fake cameras. Get a dog. Even a small one will make a lot of noise. Having kids toys outside will make them less likely to come near cause they wouldn’t wanna trip on them. There’s tons of stuff you can do as well. Just research. Stay safe!

[@theonlyenchantressdeadrose1296]

Deffiently more !!!!! This was one of my fave podcasts - 💋💗💗

[@omariii9112]

saameeeeee !!!!!!!

[@feedmeaftermidnight1035]

Definitely

[@XricheeX]

Real Bride Of Chucky same im so into this shit

[@gbabyjzphil23]

Real Bride Of Chucky yes, same!

[@kikacid203]

How do you fuck that word up so badly???? But I agree. Deffiently more!

[@devsox1]

I need more of these!! I'm literally drooling for more! That last one was awesome holy shit

[@wildflowersmama]

devsox1 you might like the vanished podcast

[@vanessamadambutterfly2018]

Check out the channel Alyssa Nicole true crime!

[@nola1439]

Guys, the man from taured is an urban legend. It resembles a famous book, and there’s no evidence of it actually happening. No concrete evidence of the event at all. It’s a sci-fi story from the 1982 book A Directory of Possibilities people are just assuming is real with no evidence. It is easy to debunk since no Japanese authority has a record of it happening and no newspaper reported it.

[@devsox1]

Anna I know, I read that in the comments. I knew it was too good to be true lol

[@MichelleRedSoul]

The background combined with your clothes makes it look like you guys are in a horror camping movie.

[@missundies]

SuperChivasLover Lol!

[@xBoRiCuAxGiRLx]

SuperChivasLover *Jason appears in the background*

[@LaeLae666]

Sleep away camp!

[@ashley3461]

Wolf Creek Part 2!!!

[@sierradgibson]

Wasn’t it also found later on that water tank case that she had a tumblr account and had written a bunch of posts indicating that she felt she was being followed by someone days before it happened?

[@aprilapple00]

UM SEND ME THE LINK

[@tattooednazgul]

Sierra yes

[@MrAishoka]

So maybe she was being stalked/harassed by someone at the hotel? Perhaps exacerbating her mental illness and causing her erratic behaviour. A hotel employee could have gotten her through those alarmed doors and into the water tank. Such a sad story...

[@beautytryouts]

Look up David Paulides missing 411 interviews...specifically on Elisa Lam's case....your minds WILL BE BLOWN😵😮😲

[@extraterrestrial2299]

Her name is Elisa Lam. Let's have a little respect.

[@imalloutofgin]

Me: I don't believe in ghosts. *after the podcast* Me: GHOSTS ARE REAL AND AFTER ALL OF US OH FUCK.

[@nutmeg13sm]

imallout ofgin I always said I didn’t believe in ghost and that kind of stuff but after that podcast before the wreck and them having the wreck the day it was released I fucking believe. That shit was FUCKED

[@koda5173]

Ghosts? pSHhh *2nd mystery* GET INTO THE BUNKER AND GRAB THE KIDS WE GOTTA GO

[@sese6227]

imallout ofgin I never believed im ghosts either...but Morgan (from Shane Dawson's videos) has a pretty convincing story. It really started to make me questions things. This video has the same affect.

[@brittanyn3448]

Listening to Jenna analyze what she thinks could have happened is so cool when we know she didn't research some of the stories at all. I love the fact that you guys have one person doing the research and the other gives input from someone who's hearing the story for the first time.

[@lumos9507]

There needs to be another podcast with Shane where you guys talk about creepy things/conspiracies

[@znyznyzny]

Lumos /* I feel like I've been waiting for this for years

[@sunna8476]

Jenna: why would a cult leader wanna kill their members?? Me: YOU'VE NEVER HEARD OF JONESTOWN JENNA??? HELLo!

[@SugarPlumzzz]

That's is very true, that actually happens often.

[@sarahdovich8366]

Or heavens gate.

[@estherbutt4341]

I haven’t, someone explain 😂😬

[@faithkap]

EB I’m a little late but whatever Heaven’s gate and Jonestown were both mass suicides committed by cults. Jonestown was kool aid laced with cyanide. heaven’s gate members died within the span of a few days with various alcohols and chemicals. Cult leaders will draw as many people as they can in and often end up killing themselves and their most loyal members. Also, if someone tried to leave a cult, the leader might get violent and try to take them out to keep the “secrets”. There was an instance where a cult leader told the members they had drank poison, but they hadn’t. He was doing a test run to see which of the members panicked, and kicked them out, keeping the most loyal members for the actual suicide days later. (I don’t remember which cult it was)

[@MarkelleRayneeSheree]

Yeah I feel like cults end in death more often than not

[@taydeepie]

Jenna's face the whole time Julien is speaking is me I'm freakin out but I can't stop watching

[@ashleyking1695]

Kinda late here but for the first theory....my dad used to be a heavy meth user. His delusions were crazy. And he would try to convince me of these delusions and go to great lengths to prove to me that they were true. He would talk about people following him, planting poison in his food/polluting his air. He once thought the neighbors were spying on us and stood on a table to look over the fence, the table fell through and he cracked his head open. Meth causes such crazy dilutions I can see them leaving the money during a delusion and running from "someone watching them". Maybe getting lost in the woods, or being so "strung out" after the high they slept there until they died. My dad could sleep for a full week after doing meth. Or they could have overdosed. Idk but it is definitely drug related, I don't think it was a murder.

[@girlcowboy]

I know this comment is old, but there was actually no evidence saying the Jamison’s (the first family) EVER did meth. This is misinformation on Jenna and Juliens part.

[@gabbyaros893]

My boyfriends friend got mixed up with meth. And on Halloween we decided to take him to our favorite park and hold an intervention for him. During the intervention he told us that it was actually December 25th and that we had been living the same day over and over again. He said the only way he was keeping any of us alive was by doing these crazy hand movements that he thought were spells. When we dropped him off at his house before he got out of the car he looked us all in the eyes and said someone’s gonna die in a sing song voice before looking at one of our other friends and saying it’s you and then running into his house. Needless to say we don’t talk to him much anymore.

[@sunflowercara8691]

@@gabbyaros893 that sounds horrifying

[@Dazyet]

My only thing about the meth overdose theory is that I don’t think they would also force the daughter to do meth with them and die in that position.

[@kaliyay7590]

The amount of money they had, they could have been really strung out. Like really really strung out. (Idk if they did drugs or not, I'd never heard of this case before. But theres something called Folie à deux, which is shared delusions. If you've ever heard of the Tromp case, it's kinda similar.) but the kid wouldn't go far if the parents passed away. I know its depressing to think about, but she wouldn't have any idea what to do, I think she'd stay, dead parents or not. But i still see it being a murder suicide thing or a drug related murder more than that. Youd have to really be out of your right mind to out your child in danger ya know. The whole situation is so sad, especially thinking about how it could have been solved if they'd found them sooner 😕

[@Gogomagicbeanjuice]

Another thing I noticed about watching the elevator footage, was she CLEARLY pressed the “open door” button multiple times. I 100% believe she was out of it enough to not realize she was the reason the doors wouldn’t close. They do finally close when she walks away because enough time had passed for that bypass to finish. If you haven’t seen the footage I strongly urge you to. I absolutely smell foul play, and EXTREMELY creepy shit happening, but the doors, I have to say, are her fault.

[@2turg_2furious]

M E a year later but someone said that the open/close buttons on those elevators didn’t work but they could be work

[@frauleinzuckerguss1906]

Aren't the open and close button the same one?

[@PersephoneSelene]

That’s what I thought! If she was pressing a shit ton of buttons she could have made it that the doors just stayed open.

[@PersephoneSelene]

@@frauleinzuckerguss1906 not on the ones I’ve been on

[@rileydcrow]

Julien: We’re obviously not gonna solve these Jenna: *SOLVES THE ENTIRE MANDELA EFFECT* (probably)

[@juliality]

I literally just looked for another conspiracy podcast and then u upload THIS HELL YEAAAH!!!

[@margot2104]

Julia luckyyyy 😁😁

[@cabau3876]

Listen to mile high podcast, they are only starting but are doing their best

[@capturedbyken2936]

Check out “Bizarre States” , “Expanded Perspectives” , “Stuff They Don’t Want You To Know” and “Lizard People : Comedy & Conspiracy Theories” ....I’m a podcast addict lol

[@juliality]

ohhh yesss thanks fellow podcast addict haha

[@juliality]

oooo yes I love Kendall, I'll be sure to check it out

[@taylorwest669]

I CAME AS FAST AS I COULD IM READY FOR THESE UNSOLVED MYSTERIES

[@Kkasandraa9]

SAME! Probably my favourite topic ever!! :D :D

[@ellipsisms]

I was feeling like shit today, thank you for existing.

[@daniadams1415]

turn that frown upside down sending love and positivity your way woooooooooooosh

[@neonpineapple4680]

Sara S. you are cared for 💕

[@Dana-gd2fs]

sending a biiiig virtual hug your way

[@joobypooh3002]

i’ve been waiting at the doctors office all day, at least now i have something to watch while i wait :’) jenna & julien are great. hope you feel better!

[@loafofbread8098]

Weird weird weird Jenna kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5TUXpqMnNJ1qbs

[@thatchick2937]

Anyone else re-watch these podcasts when they need a Jenna fix?

[@dollyd4728]

Yup here in 2024. Jenna will forever be my spirit animal and I miss them. But thank you guys for not taking these down and keeping these forever forevwr to revisit. Going thru all old videos and podcasts over the next few months cause I miss these times. Happy we still have julien, two special hoomans ❤❤

[@doobnoob8491]

"I like stuff like this cause it's not dark. Nobody disappeared... well some guy did but he's probably fine." I fucking love you guys

[@NaasirVoid]

i love watching while i eat lunch

[@soundwave546]

Naasir Void I’ve been seeing u everywhere damn

[@CadetPanda]

I'm eating lunch right now

[@gloria1736]

Same

[@Acey1010]

same, just dinner time for me lol

[@julie717]

Same 😂

[@leojacko]

wow i love buzzfeed unsolved, ryan and shane who?

[@ApoorvaaC]

leo It’s the best. ❤️

[@annee2243]

Dinks unsolved???

[@DanielleVlog365]

*Wheeze*

[@maddie-fz7tk]

ryan bergara and shane madej

[@bonyee2768]

leo I love Buzzfeed Unsolved; it's so good

[@jays9541]

Watching old podcasts to fill the Jenna sized hole in my heart 👁💧👄💧👁

[@SJ_CPP_WAP_1P]

This went from 0 to Shane Dawson real quick

[@zacharyoneill3490]

Sjondel “hey what’s up you guys, YES”

[@SJ_CPP_WAP_1P]

That's how it should've started!

[@anaduvnjak9265]

This is the best comment I’ve seen yet!

[@ellipsisms]

I read that as Julien imitating Shane.

[@fijiapples5122]

Sjondel FOR THE 100th TIME. SHANE-DIDN’T-INVENT-CONSPIRACY-THEORIES 🖕🏼🖕🏼

[@melanie2630]

am i the only one that gets hella paranoid watching these even though they’re not ghost stories??

[@rainirodriguez8275]

Melanie ME

[@alexrseeberger]

SAME I moved my whole body so none of me was hanging off my bed. I’m scared.

[@user-ew9uv2hs2i]

It makes me feel better seeing recent comments

[@samayyye7037]

I'm glad I'm not alone 😂

[@Carmelishez]

Yes! I keep getting scared of the noises in my house eeee!

[@Binxie_]

Y'all should make a pillow fort and do a podcast in it. Like it could either be a fun nice cozy one or a conspiracy one like yes fam scare the shit out of us while being comfy

[@caitb262]

Allie Marie fort cast 2k18

[@kiricamel]

Yes please that is such a good idea 👌😍

[@_theeb]

Allie Marie Yes!

[@ravitrageravit]

Yessssss. Then we could all make our own forts and feel like the whole dinkfam is having the dopest slumber party.

[@megc9815]

dream corner cast?? :)

[@KittyNippz]

I came here after the Skinwalker podcast. And that part from 7:15 - 7:23 freaked me out coz that bark sounded weird AF!

[@zahraab5165]

Ikr

[@ohok2879]

same

[@olivialeger4392]

I can’t with that one!! I was yelling at my phone

[@brooke0550]

Kitty Nippz OH MY GOD SAME sorry I just got freaked out bc that’s exactly what I did🙃

[@oliviaparkinson9702]

Kitty Nippz you’re tweaking

[@rhiisabean8144]

When I woke up today, I told myself that I was going to go to sleep early tonight. That was, in fact, a lie. It's two AM and I'm on my third one of these creepy ass podcasts wHy Do I dO tHiS tO mYsElF

[@ariellamae1567]

Rhi Is A Bean WAIT YES ME TOO 2:30am I’m supposed to wake up at 4:45 for a series of plane rides with like 170000000000000 layovers. I fuckin hate myself.

[@wutsit2yuhhuh246]

Rhi Is A Bean *melatonin.*

[@applesfurandscales3847]

I do the same thing almost every night

[@alanahshanae1789]

Rhi Is A Bean sameeeeee

[@ThatSB]

2 am isnt that late. I was gona go to bed early by going to bed before 5 am. Its now 7 55

[@fayrasey8443]

Where is my conspiracy podcast with Shane???

[@tvojeprezuvky]

yes please!!!!!!!!

[@0Flow0]

I'm not sure if he'll do those anymore since last time he did a conspiracy video someone tried to ruin his reputation and career.

[@MsBossLadyLola]

0Flow0 literally WHAT are you talking about? This person was referring to Shane being a guest on J&J podcast. If you’re referring to Shane’s creepy videos (not a podcast?) he still makes them? He made one just a few weeks ago? And if you’re referring to Bobby Burns diss video about Shane’s conspiracies you clearly need to visit Shane’s channel because him and Bobby are friends now. And like I said, Shane hasn’t stopped making those videos. So literally what the fuck are you talking about

[@jelllllllly4954]

Sophie AndImTired I think they are referring to the person who alleged Shane was a pedophile.

[@ElizaSimmer]

Shane still does conspiracies not as often but I feel he would love to do them with j and j

[@MichelleYang12]

Home alone and freaking the fuck out! But yall have to do more of these lol

[@socalledfishboy]

Watching this in 2020 and crying over Ad and Jenna it’s fine

[@sewerrat2683]

Same :,)

[@botanical_chloride_6471]

Ikr I just have to pretend that it's still 2018 and none of this year has happened yet and the podcast is still going and I can actually leave the house

[@beeech1080]

Me in 2021 😅😭

[@JordanAnnKearns]

me in 2022... I miss Jenna 😭

[@bridgetduncan5338]

2023 😢

[@ladysaturn3876]

Meth users also don't sleep or eat for days on end, like 5,6, 7 days sometimes. And that is what causes the delusions. Meth also lasts a really long time. Around 6-8 hours or more depends how much you do. They were probably on a long 6 day meth binge running on no sleep and no food and suuuuuper paranoid, tried to "escape" with everything they had. Daughter, dog, cash. Such a sad story, tho :/

[@sophia4740]

Daggeira I thought they said the tests were inconclusive, ie bodies were too decomposed to get any results

[@sophia4740]

I don't know why you were talking about Elisa when the main comment is about the family that Julien was talking about (two parents and their daughter Madison). You never said Elisa

[@ladysaturn3876]

Not sure on the toxicology stuff....might have been too late to tell also. If it was meth, tho...that's my thought on it for sure. Feel so bad for the little girl

[@KatChartreux]

*Conspiracy theories?* 😀

[@YonaCubs]

Kat Chartreux mom

[@xBoRiCuAxGiRLx]

Kat Chartreux with Shane Dawson Please!

[@nellyduckmont]

Yesssss please with Shane!

[@heighton7206]

Floris Lilium omg yass

[@wutsit2yuhhuh246]

Kat Chartreux if you're interested still I have some (imo) good videos on my deep rabbit hole playlist. They're videos I've watched and added over time. Some of them could get really dark btw so I warned you lol.

[@contrapasso]

Jenna you've got to listen to the podcast Rabbits. It's a fiction podcast about an alternate reality game, secret societies, slipping dimensions, etc. It's cool as fuck; I loved every second. Give it a try!

[@valerygonzalez5658]

thenormalstate I will be checking this out👍👍

[@izzybeelle]

what about julien

[@marsinator3675]

Izzybelle .e NO! Strictly NO JULIEN.

[@scullysnack]

Oooo RABBITS also check out the black tapes podcast if you're into more paranormal stuff (it's fiction)

[@eringonzalez7351]

What channel? I’m not sure if I found the right one

[@noashor5224]

Julien: "I hope you're not eating..." Me: slowly stops chewing pasta.......

[@BlackeyedBlonde]

What bugs me out about the passport story is, if he got on a plane from Torrid, there had to be other people on the plane, it had to go into an airport, how did just he get misplaced? Wouldn't an entire plane from Torrid have entered the airport? Or even if it was a private jet, him and a pilot? Maybe other people witnessed this, did they not question people from his flight? Unless Torrid uses another country's airport/don't have their own airport? Or he was traveling from somewhere else in Europe? Ah it's so crazy! Love it!

[@Gogomagicbeanjuice]

In the original story (as I first heard it) was that other people in the airport had just seen him appear from seemingly out of nowhere. There he was suddenly bustling along with everyone else, I guess. Like at that point in time is where he would have popped in, in the actual airport itself. Not the traveling part.

[@MsPurpleStuff]

i bet it was made up

[@sarahw8846]

Snip Snap yyzgxüggiix

[@LOVEanneLOVE]

Can anyone help.me? I remember shane dawson making a video about this too but I cant find it...

[@monimoo88]

I've heard many stories like this about people who randomly vanish into thin air or appear out of thin air. Our parallels are literally right upon one another and just maybe the veil between the parallels are so thin sometimes we randomly switch back and forth and things are so similar in between the two worlds that we may not even notice. Unless of course it's on a bigger scale the way this mans was. I read a story about a woman who woke up in an alternate and didn't even know for days because it was so similar, until she wondered where her lover was and why he hadn't contacted her. She found out in the reality she was now in, he had died before they had ever met, her mother was now alive when she had previously died and she no longer worked at the job shed held for over twenty years. I think it's a matter of just accidentally crossing through the veil of the alternates.

[@just0Glee]

JULIEN LOOKS SOOOO GOOD

[@jennig3057]

Carina de Jesus yum yummmmm daddyy

[@brandinichole2490]

Snacc

[@montanban_]

JennA kinda looks like eminem. Jeninem x

[@auntiesnixx4849]

I always thought the samee thing, I noticed without makeup she looked like somebody to me. Then I finally realized it was Eminem.

[@jshayliancasey5036]

as always

[@Irishrachel1]

*sees title of video* *longest hell yeah ever*

[@kittymeowzzz]

ahhh hell yeuhhhhhhhh

[@ofeliaforsman1]

You said it sister/brother!

[@jessileann2587]

rachmors same 😂😂

[@hannahhunsaker3786]

I love julien at 17:31 where he goes “as a meth user “ and then just stops talking

[@MissMusicQueen101]

I knew that they recorded this ep in advance but tbh i was kinda expecting a solo Jenna podcast and I was totally ready for it

[@hunny6208]

MissMusicQueen101 wow that’s mean 😂

[@biancadesousa]

same

[@angel204bby]

MissMusicQueen101 I kinda want Jenna to go solo for one ep

[@rokaskarica6272]

MissMusicQueen101 she can't do it bcz she has to prepare for her basketball game tomorrooooo

[@haleyburton8990]

To level out the unease I feel at this comment, I WANT a solo Solomita podcast containing hella fuckery with way too many uneccesary segues

[@letsjustpretend1]

Just wanted to mention there are a few things about the water tower case that are important. So she was there with classmates who noted she had been displaying (what we know now) manic behavior, to the point that she had to switch rooms. She had been on medications to treat bipolar disorder, but toxicology confirmed she was off of those meds though, at least some of them. There were water issues _prior_ to their arrival, so imagine her already being manic (and paranoid because she was hiding her disorder from her school and classmates) and then becoming paranoid of the water source and having hallucinations. So most likely sequence of events is that she had a manic episode that caused her to become paranoid of the water, and likely the hotel itself based on the hotels history (elevator clips), so she finds her way to the water tank. The tank itself did indeed have a maintenance ladder on the side according to reports, though the tank lid was incredibly heavy which is where people become skeptical. However it is has been stated by psychologists that it would absolutely be possible for a person within a severe delusion and a paranoid manic state to to do something of that natural with the amount of adrenaline they’d be pumping. Most likely she climbed into the tank to discover what was wrong with the water and got trapped. Edit: Also wanted to mention that the elevator not closing is easily explained by her continually triggering the sensor by leaning out, leaning on, and generally messing with the elevator. So it closed when she walked away because no one was triggering the sensor anymore. I am a fan of and general believer of paranormal things, but I think that case is just a really sad case of a mental disorder causing an untimely death to a sick young woman.

[@juliahalligan87]

Tori Guthrie VERY VERY WELL PUT!!!

[@annatria2130]

Great explanation, but how does that explain her floating next to her clothes and belongings?

[@jaserp5177]

wet clothes are heavy, when you're stuck in water trying to float you take your heavy wet clothes off to be able to float longer. heres a pretty long write-up about her www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/3amnrx/resolved_elisa_lam_long_link_heavy/

[@rhiisabean8144]

Tori Guthrie I thought that there was evidence of rape?

[@jaserp5177]

No, they did a rape kit just in case but they never tested it because she didn't have any signs of sexual assault.

[@rwaitwhat]

I really really want Unsolved Mysteries to be a regular feature now

[@aliciahili9123]

Can we get another unsolved mysteries podcast!!! I’ve watched this at least 20 time! I need more!

[@amandarivera25]

Julian: hope you’re not eating right now Me: *looks down at my sandwich* nope

[@kylaking574]

Amanda Rivera i looked down at my ronen

[@risavh]

You know you spend too much time on the internet when you’re familiar with all of these mysteries before watching this podcast lol

[@sparkle7653]

"big methy meth fight"

[@sashinka1701]

when he snapped his fingers and said: "disintegrated"... ha this came out months before Infinity War

[@8orange]

YO THAT PASSPORT ONE FUCKED ME UP BUT I LOVE IT

[@shameless_days]

EmilyIsFantastic21 there's a movie based off of this story, it's called The Terminal, with Tom Hanks, really fucking good

[@BibleIllustrated]

It is based on a different story of Mehran Karimi Nasseri, not the Taurend one.

[@kristio294]

Diana Holland and? Either way its a good story.

[@KeaLynn]

Kristina Ortiz ok but she said its based on this story which its not????

[@solsoares9048]

Probably just a secret agent that lied his way out of getting caught.

[@foolinqs7429]

For those wanting to know a little bit more about the Elisa Lam case: 1. Elisa herself had never had an episode where she would hallucinate or act as she did in the elevator footage. Her family and friends both validated this. 2. She was in a good, happy place at the time she first went to this hotel. Her parents confirmed this as she would call them everyday and tell them she was having a blast travelling. Even in her blog where she posted regularly it was noticed that she was posting positive thoughts and quotes. 3. When she traveled to the hotel however, she went there alone and most likely met up with a love interest she had been in contact with online. She states this on her blog. 4. After being discovered in the tank, police and investigators took a long long time to release the autopsy results. When it was released, the case was marked as "accidental". However 3 days later was changed to "suspicious" before hastily being changed back to "accidental". 5. Her autopsy shows she hadn't been taking any drugs, only had minimal alcohol in her system and additionally had been taking the correct medicine for her bipolar disorder. 6. Her death eerily is very similar to a movie horror called Dark Water where a dead woman is found in a hotels water tank after complaints about the water. 7. In L.A, after Elisa Lams death, it was reported thousands of people in the same area as the Cecil Hotel were infected by the highly contagious TB. A name for the test for that sort of TB is called Lam Elisa: Lipoarabinomannan (LAM) Enzyme-Linked Immunosorbent Assay (ELISA). 8. At the time of her death, the Cecil Hotel was under new management and was re-branding it. 9. The footage of the elevator has been heavily altered. First of all, the time stamp is corrupted so it is almost impossible to see the amount of time she was in the elevator for or to piece separate footage in the right order. Secondly, sleuths were able to somewhat fix the time stamp on certain parts of the footage and found a whole minute missing. And thirdly, the frame rate was slowed down to 15fps instead of it's original 20fps. 10. Reportedly, the last person to see her alive was a hotel worker. 11. While she was staying in the hotel, three registered sex offenders were also staying there. In fact, many criminals stay and go at the Cecil Hotel. All of this and more can be found on the KZbin Channel: The Paranormal Scholar as they have done a documentary for the Elisa Lam case.

[@foolinqs7429]

The Cecil Hotel did indeed release the footage, and took their pretty time doing so. They always had a high rate of customers come through before all this (mainly because it's cheap and it's location) however, during the time of Elisa's death they were under going management change and even changing the Hotels name, perhaps to try rid it of it's terrible past and bad name? The last death before Elisa Lam was back in 1975, so I find it strange she died right when the Hotel was changing names and management. A sabotage to the new management maybe?

[@HiMeMeYT]

what does the fact that the test for the TB is called Lam Elisa mean? Like, why? And how would that be connected to her death? Thank you for writing this by the way!

[@amyisaway7800]

this case is fascinating to me - thanks for sharing this!

[@foolinqs7429]

@MiaMedia It most likely isn't linked but is still a strange and fascinating coincidence. And no problem!

[@foolinqs7429]

@amyisaway Yes one of the most fascinating to me as well, and that's okay!

[@ryan_7180]

Can you do more google deep dives ?

[@PossiblyAlena]

Love seeing how people are coming back to this video as spooky season begins again.

[@MissNikkiGregory]

Imagine if that Taured guy disappeared from the room, and woke up in his bed. His dream was our reality.

[@festivalrat]

hey, stop that

[@d1sasteroid]

it’s too late for this matey

[@whitenoizzze]

STOOOOOOOOPPPPPPP I NEED TO GO TO BED LMAO!! YOU HURT MY MIND...

[@Chances126]

my brain just went boom

[@HavenGray]

Noooiiice

[@jthompson7073]

Jenna I have Bipolar II & was a little frustrated by the idea of people assuming this was completed by the girl just being Bipolar. Your comment "I'm not buying into this Bipolar part at all" made me feel so much better & validated. Yes, you can have hallucinations with Bipolar I, being manic or depressed. But I don't buy into Bipolar having anything to do with this. There's no way she could've gotten up there alone.

[@jthompson7073]

like.. we're normal people lmao just a lil extra angry or elated haha

[@lovebirds360]

Apparently the toxicology report showed that she was taking her antidepressants (one the day of death, the other recently but not the day of), but hadn't been taking her mood stabilizers. Someone with bipolar disorder who takes antidepressants by themselves can push the person into a manic episode. I believe they also found on her blog/social media that she had been very depressed within the past few days, so it's entirely possible that she stopped the mood stabilizers because she /wanted/ to be manic, so she wouldn't be so depressed. Also, the physical strength thing: it's been documented that, during a manic episode, people with bipolar disorder can show absurd physical strength (kind of like with adrenaline and people being able to do crazy shit like lift cars because their kid was stuck under it), so it is entirely possible that she found some way up there, got in, and for whatever reason closed the lid. Maybe she thought she was hiding in there :(

[@cassidy.s.e]

Hakuna Matata My father was diagnosed as bipolar after a car accident (I think he always was and brain damage worsened it), and there were plenty of times I thought he was actually schizophrenic especially if he stopped taking his meds. When he would get manic he was always super paranoid about a multitude of things, and had occasional hallucinations. One time he accused me of being in porn even though I had only just turned 17, and the girl’s picture he showed me looked nothing like me. Didn’t even have the same hair or eye color. Used to think there was something wrong with the local waterways. One time he thought he saw a dead body in the woods by the creek near our house. He ran in the house, freaking out and telling us to cal the cops because there’s a dead guy in the woods. Called the cops, and there was nothing there. Stuff like that. I could 100% believe that she was having an intense manic episode, went into the water tank to hide, and then couldn’t get back out. The only other possible conclusion is that she was put there by someone else, but that would be a really dumb way to try to get away with murder, as she would obviously be found and there are plenty of cameras in hotels. Nobody ever found footage of anyone possibly following her, or showing up on other cameras in the same spots as her to the best of my knowledge. I also don’t think there was any evidence of sexual assault or a physical struggle either.

[@LadyHarley]

That’s a really good theory. I thought of that as well. But I don’t understand how come it never mentioned if other people were around or not. Like you’d think someone would be. It also doesn’t explain the elevator not going. Unless she was hitting the open door button or the same floor button and it wouldn’t move cause of that. And how come her mouth was blurred when she was talking. Those are some weird points

[@cez_is_typing]

It’s still a little strange that her belongings were floating next to her. Why would she undress before climbing in. And how come the lid was on after wards. I think the bipolar manic theory is the most believable but each theory with this story always has one or two things that don’t quite add up and I think that’s what makes it so strange

[@lgee8383]

Wrong.

[@curlyemmm1232]

Luna the undressing thing can be explained because there’s a phone call of someone who is bipolar and goes into a manic episode and over the 911 call the wife is screaming at her husband (the one who is having the breakdown) to put on his clothes because he started stripping.

[@cbgb3369]

Hear me out on my theory about Elisa and the Cecil hotel for a sec. So I’ve read in quite a few places (this comment section included) that the hotel was known to be in a pretty bad area of town a and that there were one or two crazy people in the area known to the hotel for following young women in there. Something I’m pretty sure a hotel would never want the public finding out about. So, let’s say Elisa is followed into the hotel by one of these guys and there’s no one at the reception to help her out so she gets in the elevator and tries to get to her room, but sometimes hotel elevators tell you which floor has been chosen on the outside, so the guy following her goes up the stairs to the floor she chooses, and when she goes to step out he is there, so she gets back in and chooses a bunch of floors so he can’t see which she has chosen but inevitably it opens at the next floor and he is there again. She stays in the elevator and he knows there are cameras in there so he doesn’t follow (he’s done this before maybe) he just stays out there pressing the call button for the elevator to stop the doors from closing. She hangs out the door and has an interaction with him but we don’t see what she says because the hotel have clearly doctored the footage, taken angles where you’d see her killer out and pixelated her mouth so you can’t see what she is saying to him. Eventually she gives up and gets out the elevator, perhaps at gunpoint er threat and is made to go to the roof with him, he forces her to get naked and kills her then throws her into the water tank, throws her belongings in after her and removes the ladder, replacing it where her got it from. When the hotel realises there is a body in the tank, they check all the footage, see this shit go down and realise they are culpable for not having someone on the front desk, and for not doing something about this guy who is chasing their customers, so doctors the tape, not handing over any footage to the police where you can see the guy (or again maybe he knew where the cameras were so avoided them) to make it look like she is talking to herself, claims she is crazy and fashions the whole thing into a mystery.

[@AlbyHonest]

This is an amazing hypothesis, I’ve always been so confused about the Elisa Story!

[@cbgb3369]

@@AlbyHonest Thanks. Yeah and the more I watch about her, the more it makes sense - someone who worked there made a comment saying that they never put people on reception at night, even though they were supposed to because they were struggling for money. I also heard, since writing this that the police DIDN’T get all the footage - they didn’t get the footage of her coming through the hotel lobby! Now they are raking cash in from visitors and ghost hunters coming to visit and it’s boosting their sales to sell her story as if she were crazy!

[@joyous1011]

This is the best theory I've heard yet! 👏🏽 @CB GB

[@cbgb3369]

@@sigh-ruh more and more, I’m convinced that this is how it went down.

[@DianaKim91]

Here's an unsolved mystery: THAT CROOKED PIN RACK!

[@SublustrisNox]

Was solved right then and there.

[@DarkRubberDucky]

OHHHHHHHHHH!

[@omnicurse]

for the first story; i used to dabble in hard drugs, and any hardcore addict couldnt even make $32k. no dealer would even trust them with that much to pick up like, a few pounds. for the wife writing angry letters, thats normal, its more of like a venting thing, but its not an act/plan to hurt someone. Since the child was involved with this, I think that they managed to get clean, had money to move, decided to have one last high on the road trip to buy a house, and ended up going into psychosis. the parents probably died by getting hurt from running around nature and possibly just exposure to nature with a possible argument + OD. The little girl was probably left alone and ran for her parents, or was left alone after her parents died. since it showed she was malnourished, she was most likely the last one alive.

[@carnalflowers]

julien: *moves mike enthusiastically* jenna: wHat aRe yoU DoInG

[@skye_meeren]

carnalflowers who is mike

[@chrischioffe5125]

I'm mike

[@gnatalie5368]

i thought i was mike

[@marienrae3299]

No, IM mike

[@Nicoleeeee3]

I AM MIKE.

[@soapsp]

miss this podcast sm, and jenna. watching episodes is like hanging out hanging out with old friends

[@Heartcastle123]

We need another episode of this!!! This was not long enough

[@sofias.5441]

JENNA!!! I don’t remember which podcast it was but I remember you told a story where in college you went to class and your notebook was all filled in and that class hadn’t even happened yet? And then you knew the plot of a Cheaters when it was new that night? What if you experienced the same thing the Torrid guy did but on a less substantial level. Holy fuck I’m freaking out rn.

[@RoyceRemix]

Wait, I legit don't remember this... are you explaining a podcast that hasn't happened yet?? :O

[@meghna617]

nahh it was one of the ghost stories podcasts i think

[@eveg7544]

Yeah it was one of the ghost stories podcast I listened to it the other day

[@NatHatter11]

Ghost stories podcast in the Toronto hotel room with Debbie and Rome!

[@_theeb]

it’s fine It was at H3 podcast.

[@user-wo8eb6sn1x]

YES I LOVE SPOOKY PODCASTS

[@shelseacano1141]

Jillian D spoopy

[@Kazooples]

These are the podcasts I miss the most, love the spooky ones

[@lindsaylele]

The Jameson Family mystery is so baffling, I’ve watched a few documentaries on it & it’s almost like the more info there is, the less it makes sense.

[@shedyouryell0w]

Buzzfeed Unsolved is quaking

[@Joojoobeans]

shedyouryell0w *wheezes in cermet*

[@Olivia-cl6ww]

I came here from a bfu video 😂 it was in the recommended

[@karie9705]

quote cermet end quote

[@MRSMcPants]

schizophrenia is often misdiagnosed as bipolar at first because it takes a year at least to diagnose schizophrenia. just some extra info.

[@McSnezzly]

But people with bipolar disorder do hallucinate, and it's confirmed she didn't balance her meds properly which does cause mania/delusional states

[@lifeblood1100]

I’m glad they brought it up, I was diagnosed as bipolar for years whilst continuing my psychiatrist appointments I was later diagnosed as schizophrenic. They told me because there’s different types of schizophrenia it’s sometimes harder to differentiate the two because some symptoms can overlap

[@107ryannorman9]

Watching these is like a liminal space thing, cus I know Jenna is off the internet now but also I remember her being on it for so long.

[@shanbilly5008]

that one dislike is jacksfilms

[@k1llakarma]

OH my gosh I was actually eating and I was so happy when Julian said “I hope you’re not eating” because I knew it was time to close the video and come back later

[@znyznyzny]

Carleah Coston 😂

[@MamamialaureL]

lol me too i tried to skip but i was too late.

[@cas2643]

Meeeee tooooo lol I almost peed

[@saras.7928]

Carleah Coston and good thing you did

[@JustThatLauren]

I feel extremely certain there had to have been an employee out of view of the camera. Keeping the elevator open by repeatedly pressing the button. Bipolar does not make you hallucinate. The security footage was edited. Who else would have access to the roof without setting off an alarm? I highly doubt she would be strong enough to lift the lid, and how would she even close it once she was inside? It makes me really mad. I wish Elisa could receive justice. Poor girl.

[@artemisrain]

JustThatLauren you're right. An employee or employees totally messed with her, frightened her, and then killed her and disposed of her.

[@JustThatLauren]

Yeah. I believe in this 100%.

[@etcettylovesyoudood]

Mania can cause hallucinations, but it's more likely she was having a psychosis episode. She was taking a combination of medication that can lead to psychosis in bipolar patients (I forget which exactly, but it was something like she was taking her antidepressants without taking her prescribed mood stabilizers?).

[@LaraAnnMarie]

She was taking antidepressants without her anti-psychotics, which is formula for a very severe manic episode.

[@niggasjit]

Bitch was probably just smoking some 100x Salvia Divinorum

[@kryslynnortega8030]

When they were talking about alternate dimensions “Do you really think this world is real? You’d have to be an idiot not to notice all the sloppy details” -Rick Sanchez

[@emo.3682]

Y'all should do a campfire unsolved mysteries pod cast . Like build a fort in your house and talk about unsolved mysteries.

[@livejaylive]

Maricela Orozco YES!

[@Mikaylers13]

Also, the Taured man’s passport and confiscated belongings were MISSING from the airport where they were being held.

[@roosaruu9526]

Mikayla Barnes oh my god

[@sydneyfortner2407]

what the hellll

[@melissalykins8895]

I telling you something screams CIA about how the guy disappeared from the room, and then his belongings from the airport.... 🤔🤔

[@gb0221]

Unsolved dinksteries

[@kaylynh2651]

GB 02 Hell ya I like it!😜

[@laurac1908]

I like the second I saw Julien's hair. Love the natural color and that cut

[@lindseysnyder9701]

I bet this guy shifted back into his dimension and was like "yooo what a weird dream". Like what if we shift dimensions everytime we dream?

[@crochetingcanuck]

Then wouldn't weird experiences like the airport one be a regular occurance, from people coming here in there dreams?

[@Rawr98]

Lindsey Snyder yooooo holy shit

[@macdre3911]

Crocheting Canuck maybe it depends on your mind and how it works 🙃

[@crochetingcanuck]

Flathead your comment makes absolutely no sense in response to mine.

[@lindseysnyder9701]

I mean maybe people from other dimensions do dream and come here but their dream is of them walking down the street of NYC or something. Like maybe when you do crazy shit in your dream, it's because in the reality you shifted to that crazy behavior is the norm. So like I have repetitive dreams of being able to float/fly, maybe I shift to the same dimension where that's a normal thing no one would notice happening? If that makes sense

[@flachtsix]

Julien lookin like a SNACC

[@lindyhameltoe1484]

Joshua Hamilton he s my snack back off loser 😘😘😘

[@fashionovawigs]

Jesus Christ Jesus Christ thirsty much (jk)

[@jordangaitanis452]

yaassssss

[@lorenamunguia-cortez9368]

I miss you so much Jenna. Wish you knew how needed your presence is on KZbin. ❤️

[@user-wo8eb6sn1x]

When Julien said “i hope your not eating” i was in the middle of biting my hot Cheeto.

[@TheCupcakeaholic]

Jillian D I was eating a burrito

[@user-wo8eb6sn1x]

Jessica Maria even worse 😂

[@IffySquishy]

I was eating jalapeño cheetos...

[@jacquigariepy2644]

IffySquishy ME TOO

[@melanie2630]

i was making a flutter nutter :’)