Jennifer Crumbley takes stand at own manslaughter trial: Part Two

Jennifer Crumbley, the mother of the Oxford High School shooter, takes the stand in her defense at her involuntary manslaughter trial on Feb. 1, 2024. Crumbley is charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter for the four students murdered by her son on Nov. 30, 2021. Here is the second part of her testimony.

[@jennydiver100]

Sorry, but buying a handgun for a troubled teen is simply pathological.

[@ninamcgrath3053]

Grossly negligent. She's dammed herself. Placing blame on husband, but she was responsible for the ammunition. How is that not negligent?

[@Vidar.m]

Most teens are troubled, anybody can become mentally unstable. Really nobody should own a gun !

[@imgoingtosinganyway.7644]

absolutely

[@ninamcgrath3053]

They didn't care about their child. All they modeled was childish behaviour. When your horse gets more time and attention than YOUR CHILD - you're a negligent parent. As a negligent parent, they are now on trial for that negligence. AKA manslaughter.

[@SeanPGribbons]

Many kids grow up with guns and don’t decide to go on a shooting rampage. It’s amazing how short sighted people are with firearms who know nothing about them.

[@j.m.9796]

The defense lawyer is insufferable. How did she graduate law school?

[@baconbap]

Yet you find the utterly unprofessional prosecution perfectly fine. Unbelievable.

[@j.m.9796]

@@baconbap Are you in love with her or something? This video is mostly her talking and sounding bratty, you can’t even see the prosecution.

[@MrFrance97]

She manipulated and probably quid pro quo her male prof all the way through graduation.

[@AppleSofi]

​@@MrFrance97 You can totally dislike her but you have to respect her, cause it's actually showing us who you are, a misogynistic pr*ck.

[@kartmo]

​@@baconbap I saw nowhere where prosecutors were unprofessional, at least not to an extent that she is. Hell she almost had a break down and started whining when they asked her not to joke about unaliving herself!

[@amy129]

Defense “ Would you do anything differently?” Her answer “No” Me: “ I’m sorry , what?”

[@susanshew2373]

OMG! She's horrible.

[@Holly-bm1sf]

She’s just a very emotionally immature Mom whom wasn’t meeting her son’s needs. She’s obviously very clueless to signs of mental health issues or could be mentally ill herself. As much as you all hate it, and sadly four lives were lost, it isn’t a crime. Being a clueless emotionally immature parent is not a crime. There are millions just like her out there and this happens everyday. We have a lack of mental health awareness issues and support in our country.

[@jonnywoe4214]

Yes, I think that is going to be a statement the jury will never unhear So even in hindsight she would buy a gun and not mental health treatment. They should have rehearsed that question and answer just a little more.

[@mandapaige1]

She just sealed her fate. The shear audacity 🤦‍♀️

[@hideem1]

She said, “I wish he would have killed us instead.” So either you have bad listening skills or you’re intentionally misrepresenting what was said here. I don’t think this woman was a “wonderful” parent, but I also don’t know if I buy that this is her fault either, I’m paying attention to the trial & you should too.

[@amills9261]

The defense attorney apparently does not realize that it is important to be liked, respected by the jury, it reflects on her client.

[@mjchiwara]

🎯💯%

[@theriddlerUSA]

She had time for her horses and the man she was having an affair with, but no time for her very troubled son. He was begging for help. This could have been avoided. A lot of people dropped the ball. It's so heartbreaking for the victims, their families and friends.

[@debfoley9726]

Thank you for your insightful comments.

[@t.g6366]

The schools suck in their own right but SCHOOLS are not responsible for these things, parents are.

[@turtletruth]

The only negligent situation at hand is the prosecutors ominous plot to destroy a young mans mother for fame of authoring another new law! Don't let Michigan become the most legally dangerous state for parents to have children!

[@ThePenpenny]

Agree 100 %

[@basicallyno1722]

@t.g6366 I completely agree and I hope they find her guilty. However after reviewing this case I do think the school should’ve done a bit more in terms of security by checking his bag and not allowing him to return to class. Not making any excuses for “Jehn,” I personally believe she bought the gun hoping her son would kill himself and become one less obstacle for her, especially after this direct testimony.

[@logicrealitytruth]

OMG! “Karen,” the queen of interrupting, has the audacity to say that the prosecutor’s saying, ”Object,” is “distracting” her! She’s a piece of work! 👎🏽😱

[@jankasza5538]

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[@logicrealitytruth]

@@jankasza5538 The reference, “Karen,” was pertaining to Jennifer Crumbley’s defense attorney’s whining to the judge.

[@MaryClareVideos]

I couldn’t believe she actually said that. I had to rewind and make sure I heard that correctly.

[@Goldiegirl2009]

It was said so lightly I never heard it. This has to be her first trial because you can’t whine about the prosecution objecting to something that is relevant. What a baby.

[@dimechick]

I couldn’t believe Karen said that. Ma’am we’re in the midst of a trial. 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@Salty-cracker68]

Of course you failed as a parent!! You had a troubled child, and instead of getting him psychiatric treatment, you bought him a weapon

[@oliviaguercioni8412]

And had an affair. I wonder what her husband thinks about that you’re in that of all times while he’s in jail?

[@basicallyno1722]

@oliviaguercioni you forgot the drinking and Xanax.

[@TheSmcdona731]

News flash...you FAILED your son. You FAILED as a parent. You FAILED at your most important job in this life! Because of these failures, some parents have lost their children forever.

[@williamcrockettforever9996]

Bro

[@Ashbash-kf5xd]

THAT PART 👆

[@derekwalters4980]

OMG!!! How the heck can she not answer the question about "Does she wish she's have done ANYTHING differently?" She actually says "NO"!!! Oh my God!! How about "I wish we'd never have purchased our she( who we knew was depressed, who we knew was troubled, who we knew didn't have close friends to talk to) the gun that he used to kill those people"????? She still doesn't get it!! She would still do everything the same!! That means her son would still have the gun, he would still go to the school, and he would still murder the victims! What was her attorney thinking??

[@rilewallie168]

She might of been instructed that answer by her lawyer. Possibly “doubling down” that she did nothing wrong was the play and they thought it would be an admission of guilt had she said yes.

[@xxmvvi]

“All I hear is object, object, and it’s so distracting” *proceeds to ask terrible questions*

[@jdemartini9807]

I don’t buy any of this. At very least she should have gotten him professional help…all the signs were there. She was too busy with her horses and her extra marital affairs

[@ninamcgrath3053]

OK. Jennifer said that she texted the shooter, "Ethan, don't do it. " She said she was referring to him killing himself, because that's what happens in those situations. When she texts him, "Ethan don't do it," it shows she knew on several levels he was the shooter.

[@susanshew2373]

Yes. she is lying!

[@JudicialMermaid]

EXACTLY! The fact that she received news there was an active shooter and her mind immediately went to her son-is so telling. That means she KNEW!! She knew her son was a risk to others and did NOTHING. She just let the school handle her child like they are babysitters because she was too busy shagging in Costco parking lot and at the horse stables.

[@carolynmcdonald2746]

Right and then just a few seconds later she contradicted herself and said she only thought he’d hurt himself.

[@ninamcgrath3053]

@@carolynmcdonald2746 She's a textbook case of why attorneys shouldn't put their clients on the stand.

[@AsheiJenkins]

@@carolynmcdonald2746yes! I rewound just to double check I heard her correctly.

[@reneel2441]

Kids are dead. Lets go to an art show. She NEVER shows she cares about the dead kids or the families. She is disturbed.

[@chrism2301]

I’m always suspicious of people who direct their answers towards the jury rather than the person asking the question.

[@bethbenedek6971]

That's the Jodi Arias style...got her set up perfectly!

[@theriddlerUSA]

I agree. Amber Heard did that too.

[@susanshew2373]

Yes! The entire time! @@theriddlerUSA

[@vjc1902]

Sometimes they tell you to look at the jury. And sometimes the Jury wants to see you because the eyes are the windows to the soul.

[@kimwilbanks1907]

Amber turd did not work well for her either.

[@BeeJoy-179]

I am so glad that the DA gets to do the cross examination in the morning. I bet they will be working late into the night...

[@baconbap]

Hopefully they will be fair, firm and consistent, mixed with some empathy, because so far their behavior has to be very off-putting to the jury.

[@Sonworshipper]

@@baconbap I’m glad I’m not on the jury. Both sides suck IMO

[@baconbap]

@@Sonworshipper you have a point.

[@kartmo]

​@@Sonworshipperwhy? What did prosecution do? From what I've seen they were fine.

[@Sonworshipper]

@@kartmo the bickering back and forth and now recently, the cross examination of Jennifer Crumbley. But I see the prosecution waited until the closing statement.

[@jlynn7654]

Every time she answers and looks at the jury, I think of Amber Heard and we all know how that turned out.

[@juliewillis6499]

How did it turn out

[@jlynn7654]

😂

[@teresahayes5204]

I was thinking the same thing ..

[@cspeak2me]

This so crazy .. she really think’s talking now is going work.. her lawyer is crazy too.

[@susanshew2373]

She will be sorry she's testifying. Prosecutors r too intelligent to believe her lies

[@ramblinsteven2554]

Her lawyer isn’t doing her any favors

[@user-of5wh8xf9k]

Her demeanor is like "I don't care".

[@user-dt9qc5uv2m]

That didn't sound good she wouldn't have done anything differently.

[@jenmdawg]

I know defendants are told to look at the jury but does anyone else think this backfires? I’ve never seen it look sincere or genuine.

[@LindaDavis-iq9zj]

She is coping, moment by moment.

[@bernimac]

So practiced!

[@susums1117]

Nah... she looks pretty ok (i mean behavior not what she is saying ir whet she did). It doesn't look even close to Amber Turd.

[@jettyoeill]

In previous cases, polled jurors have said they don’t like when the defendant keeps looking at them when answering questions.

[@candicisco9666]

IMO it was a huge mistake for her to take the stand. Her lawyer asked far too many leading questions, the woman obviously lacks empathy for everyone but herself & to me she & her lawyer are highly manipulative. The way Crumbly looks & acts pathetic but then the way her eyes dart around in a calculating manner is very telling. The father is an extremely weak, unethical & pathetic person while the mother is cunning , selfish & controlling.. recipe for a highly messed up kid.

[@jankasza5538]

This lady has zero compassion….she’s worried about her senior DOG and DOG food…..she’s oblivious, cold, indifferent and a total weirdo!

[@jeanettesmith765]

She just seems so cold-hearted to me.

[@Kelly-up8tw]

Same... so cold, shows no empathy or loving emotions

[@SistahShay]

His parents are insane. No empathy from me.

[@kmurray559]

They are a mess on so many levels !

[@cheshirecat888]

Absolutely. If I had been called in to that meeting that morning and seen what my baby had been drawing and thinking, I would not even think about work. I would be devastated I hadn't noticed such a decline and I would be fighting for him to receive intensive help that day. I wouldn't leave him. The claim they thought he would only ever hurt himself shows they clearly didn't care if he did.....because they abandoned him that day.

[@kmurray559]

@@cheshirecat888 Ugh !!!! They knew he had problems before that meeting and didn’t care. They are dysfunctional and had no concern for their child or the children around him. The school should have insisted that he be taken home. But that would have only delayed the tragedy bc he was determined to kill. Y’all have so much sympathy for this killer but not his victims.

[@cheshirecat888]

​@@kmurray559yeah of course.. no sympathy for his victims 🙄🙄🙄 Jesus, what the f*ck is your simple mind telling you

[@cheshirecat888]

​@@kmurray559I'm going to guess you have never worked with neglected and damaged children, that you have no idea about the fragility of the mind in those crucial developmental years. That you are lacking empathy....which is why you are unable to see this situation from a myriad of ways and not just in the linear fashion you just spat out. To be able to have empathy for the child is not to discount the ability to be devastated for the victims. It is not to excuse the actions. It is to look into the reasons why and the potential that it could have been prevented. That he may have suffered but in a different way to the suffering he inflicted. I'll repeat this as I'm sure you'll have some nonsense to spout....it is not providing that child with an excuse and a get out of jail free card. But to understand what caused the action and to be able to recognise where HE may have been failed. To quote a very wise person...you..."ugh!!!" It's draining when people are this ignorant.

[@thatonegirl4676]

My son is 26 now and has never stopped saying I love you.

[@baconbap]

Well bully for you. Aren't you just the perfect mother.

[@jonnywoe4214]

@@gigistrailsandtales7203of course, wouldn’t want the victims to get that maybe $100

[@Holly-bm1sf]

My kid doesn’t automatically say I love you and she’s amazing, happy, we have a great relationship but yet a typical teen. She’s simply not as expressive as I am. Good for you they your son expresses his feelings but some don’t and it doesn’t mean there is something wrong with them. Consider humbling yourself a little, guarantee you’re just like the rest of us parents and completely imperfect.

[@Bearsie413]

I only have one child, a daughter, she is 23. She has never not said I love you. Every time we leave each other, every time we get off the phone. It's just a natural all the time thing .

[@babyclown]

Kids are all different though…

[@johnwaas7958]

Why wasn’t Ethan’s backpack checked when the parents left him back in school that terrible day?

[@Sonworshipper]

The dean of students said he didn’t have “reasonable suspicion” 🙄

[@johnwaas7958]

@@Sonworshipper I bet the parents would be allowed but would they have if asked?

[@kelleylynch4490]

Why didn't the school check the backpack?

[@lydialutz]

My 2nd year of teaching, I had a kid "joke" that he had a gun in his backpack. Knowing this kid, I thought there was no way it was true and his laughter told me he was joking. (I was right - he didn't have a gun.) But I told the principal and he and 5 other adults swooped into my room, separated him from his backpack, and took him and his backpack out of the room to search them both. Immediate investigation of a way less troubled kid than Ethan.

[@Wellwater52]

The were idiots and forgot to check

[@SamShank175]

Pretty sure she said her husband handled the guns and ammo, that it was his thing. Now she said her husband asked her where she hid the bullets?

[@HappyLife-vh2ey]

Her attorney is horrible AND SO UNPROFESSIONAL IN SO MANY WAYS .

[@jenellpickering735]

Preach!!!!!!!! I've not listened in on many actual trials, but I'd like to think this isn't common behavior of a defense attorney. My oh my...

[@peggyk123]

The judge doesn’t seem to control the courtroom enough and all the defense lawyer does is whine and complain .

[@elsteve43]

You know damn well that the police told them not to leave town.

[@carlatownsend5211]

Only a narcissist would think she could use her powerful personality to sway the jury. NOT!

[@aquariusrizing]

What personality? She's been trying not to have one other than as a pudgy, pathetic mess. I think this will backfire bigly.

[@KL-ou9jj]

OMG 1. I can’t believe this defense attorney! Judge they are objecting … it’s distracting! The jury hears it! 2. judge. Keep your voices down! Excuse me … she has objected 100 times per witness! Are you serious??? Is this a joke???

[@charcole3366]

Face it! You had NO TIME for your troubled child ignored ALLLLLL signs NOw WE R HERE😢

[@Sonworshipper]

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@Countess88]

She was too obsessed with her horses. They were more important than her troubled kid.

[@stevejones3229]

This feels so scripted. Cross, please do well.

[@CNSTAdventures]

It is direct and direct is pretty much scripted, cross is going to get to them bottom of things

[@vjc1902]

Pretending she knows nothing about guns.

[@jonnywoe4214]

If they scripted, they did a terrible job with ‘would you have done anything differently’. Cross will likely hammer that nail a little further in the coffin

[@saradecapua3264]

That's usually how it goes down with the defense. They rehearse and rehearse and rehearse.

[@brianhollon178]

@@saradecapua3264 that’s how the prosecution does it too!! All parties literally have a deposition of all testimony before you see it in court

[@JungkookxSim]

This lawyer is so whiney, not professional as all, the judge just seems to go along with whatever is being said

[@tanya45096]

Jeepers, I thought it was just me being too sensitive thinking she seems so whiny!

[@susanshew2373]

I know - I don't like this judge!

[@pelenaka]

TY I was searching for the descriptive word to describe the Defense Attorney. Her cadence is very annoying.

[@HappyLife-vh2ey]

@@susanshew2373 ME NEITER

[@baconbap]

She's more professional than the prosecutors.

[@kayleengarcia8227]

I have a very hard time feeling sorry for her …. No remorse for the victims & their families 😢

[@annebosworth7048]

​@@TruthOnly24u don't think she done anything wrong...unbelievable...

[@turtletruth]

The only negligent situation at hand is the prosecutors ominous plot to destroy a young mans mother for fame of authoring another new law!... Don't let Michigan become the most legally dangerous state for parents to have children!

[@2Truth4Liberty]

"No remorse for the victims & their families 😢" Says WHO?

[@HeyTezza]

@@TruthOnly24I love how all the people defending her keep using “you’re judging her” yes, she’s on trial, that’s the point of trial, you are judged for something you did wrong.

[@CNSTAdventures]

Just because ammo was missing she automatically knew her son was the shooter ? Either I’m missing something or something is left out

[@Phor0phor]

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[@mariastefanie5835]

Shes sn abuser and parents need to take responsibility for the abuse that creates situations like this. And she gave him the gun

[@UmbrellaBird789]

Did you watch the testimony that the school showed the parents the disturbing drawing the son drew that morning?

[@Phor0phor]

She post this Her personal KZbin channel is a mess kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3TKgaGmfNSSgtEsi=heHJ1gm9t_8acktO

[@elainemunro4621]

These parents have a responsibility to pay attention to their kid’s asking for professional help, which they did not. Had they responded appropriately, the shooting may well not have happened. Their lack of action contributed to the kid’s dark emotions which led to the event. Guilty. Defense counsel’s questions are not helping. Neither are her snarky comments.

[@Phor0phor]

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[@sissy4506]

The Bedroom My GOD.Then instead of cleaning she allowed him to destroy another room? But the parents were drinking,Xanax and giving it to Ethan without him having a prescription. Affairs,no mental help for him,not checking his phone as a parent should,buying him a 🔫 and it being where he can get it not locked up,on and on more.GUILTY

[@jdemartini9807]

Absolutely

[@Jack-eo5fn]

Agree, but we don’t know if he actually asked them to get him help. His texts were to friends so it’s possible he was testing (not texting) his peers to get their reactions to how he felt about himself… would they still like him, would they laugh at him, etc. His need for peer approval above parent approval is normal for his age. But agree that getting him a gun was both stupid and malicious.

[@mo777-]

why wouldn’t he ask his conselour for help at the meeting RIGHT before he shot up the school?you guys keep making excuses for ethan as if he doesn’t know right from wrong. it’s wrong to shoot innocent people peroid

[@kimwilbanks1907]

Why would you have to hide a gun and bullets??? I have three sons they are all trained with guns. Our guns were secured but if I had to hide bullets or guns we would never have had guns. They knew something was wrong why did they have guns???? That’s where they are at fault. They should have put him in treatment and never had guns around him because they knew he was not right. They are responsible for him getting ahold of a gun.

[@sissy4506]

You put guns in gun safes no matter what if you have children under 18!!!!!! Gun Safety and Responsibility

[@minischniers6535]

They did... code was 000 ​@@sissy4506

[@Trixie1773]

⁠​⁠@@sissy4506Yes, every responsible gun owner needs to have a safe to store their gun and amo. No doubt. I think what @kimwilbanks1907 is saying is they don’t need to hide the safe, since the gun inside is secure and the children can’t get access. So every knows where the gun is located, but only responsible adults can access it.

[@mountainmama8932]

Thank you for this comment. It's very refreshing to hear a parent teach their children gun safety and allow them to be familiar, and in a safe space with them. So many comments are against guns, period! I think it's perfectly normal. You asked a good question about why she had to hide the bullets? In my mind, I thought she was doing her part to keep the weapon and ammunition safe in separate places. I thought maybe the gun range had taught that? Your comment definitely has me thinking though, you might be right. Is that something gun safety teaches? I think I've heard of it before but really can't recall. I'm not too familiar with guns, but my son and I love to shoot his pellet rifles, and he wants to learn to shoot with his Opa. His Opa has open carry, gun safe, and insurance in the chance he has to fire to protect someone or himself. He takes courses regularly, and i wouldn't mind if my son learned from him at all. Even though I don't feel comfortable around guns - I do around his Opa, and believe people have a right to protect themselves and their loved ones.

[@diverightin9243]

​@@mountainmama8932i think I have heard that also about storing the ammo and gun in different places. I understood that as a safety measure before this trial. So, not sure that tells me anything about the parents negligence. There may be other things that might but, this particular point isn't.

[@100Mickl]

This lawyer is a whiny entitled individual…. Judge is weak

[@basicallyno1722]

I agree

[@michellem4287]

This is one entitled monster.

[@RichardHinds-qs2mi]

She’s a terrible witness. Her attitude is terrible and what is up with that defense attorneys sensitivity???

[@bethbenedek6971]

THEY didn't feel safe?😮😮😮😮Child were killed due to their indifference and gross firearm carelessness!

[@chiggins4399]

Terrible mother, terrible human. Anyone remember the just don't get caught text? On her way to substation is he alive? She is horrible.

[@nicole7093]

She had time and insight to see a doctor to treat her own anxiety with Xanax but not enough time for her son to even get a mental health assessment when he asked for it?? Wow.

[@nicole7093]

@@g.mendel726definitely missed the point. Try again. And in absolutely no way is that woman a victim.

[@solidrock7998]

This Defense Attorney is a hot a$$ mess.

[@smoothandchunky1]

ZERO self awareness ZERO remorse. She was doing exactly what she wanted when she wanted, that's what she feels bad about. She never wanted him and failed to fully connect with him so she turned on him. Sad. What a terrible parent.

[@janicecheel4622]

Her lawyer does not sound too experienced!!! These parents have to be held accountable

[@oqlus]

This lawyer has over a decade and a half of experience, but she’s still pretty terrible at her job.

[@lululiga333]

Yes she sounds like a kid reading off a script. Awful.

[@kalynn36]

Again, this mother is full of anger. She is intelligent, but unable to calibrate her demeanor. Very hostile, irritable, narcissistic.

[@debrabaker6021]

This jury is going to find her guilty very quickly. She has little to know sympathy for those killed or hurt. She also was calculated about protecting herself.

[@Momster89]

Jennifer has been well coached and knows exactly what questions are going to be asked. For someone with public speaking anxiety, she is looking at the jury straight on. Her testimony seems believable except the totality of her actions indicate she is lying.

[@karenwalters1211]

I’m also surprised she’s not more emotional. I’d be an emotional wreck even after all this time has passed

[@MrFrance97]

Actions interogation videos give it all away. Crocodile tears... brilliant.

[@ninamcgrath3053]

She threw her husband under the bus by saying he was responsible for securing the gun. BUT she threw herself under that same bus by saying she was responsible for the ammunition.

[@MomDawg]

Even with the coaching she doesnt show remorse or regret. Its insane

[@juliegaines2729]

This defense attorney....she's awful. Not worth all the $$ she is charging for sure. Jury's don't like lawyers that act like she does.

[@Salty-cracker68]

It’s super annoying that she keeps looking over at the jury to talk to them. Amber heard did this and it’s really annoying.

[@tinaschultz1976]

I think the lawyer told her to talk to the jury not her 😅

[@angelirohival6270]

If I had been Ethan’s counselor, I would resign because I really screwed up.

[@susanshew2373]

"my life is on my phone". . . . your son took lives!!

[@AsheiJenkins]

Saying “I know this sounds terrible” then don’t say it, lady!

[@susanshew2373]

"we're ok if there r injuries". . . Is she kidding???? One girl is dis bled! (missing computer key)

[@juliepeterson6639]

Just don’t get caught.

[@poodee9395]

I think Jennifer is gonna get off. NOT James.

[@abbeyboyle8843]

I hope not. Let's not forget that she is the one that bought 100 9mm bullets for that gun just days before the shooting.

[@poodee9395]

@@abbeyboyle8843 she certainly has grounds for appeal On several grounds. If found guilty.

[@KL-ou9jj]

In her words … she takes control! James just does what she says … works where he is good to work!!!

[@TREEB2529]

If she isn’t found guilty then the jury is just as dumb as the defense attorney and judge.

[@life-mm5do]

What kind of mother buys bullets for their teenage son.

[@karenharding2796]

She is truly the one in control of her family

[@cindearbuckle6074]

She looks like she has gained a 100 lbs !

[@somethinginthenothing]

She looks 20yrs older.

[@TREEB2529]

Guilt does that to people 😒

[@beverleykeller5950]

5 YEAR OLD LAWYER,CUTS OFF THE JUDGE,TELLS THE JUDGE THATS FINE,ASKS WHAT IS GOING TO BE !!???? This judge needs to quit babying and protecting this student and teach her what her real job is!!!!

[@rosmarybourque2294]

I am skeptical. They sure jumped real fast to get a lawyer for themselves and became very articulate very soon as to options and potential legal eventualities. Her testimony under defense.....stinks.

[@JanisAllen-vx6fl]

She said she “could handle injuries “😢

[@sissy4506]

That sounded stupid to me too.

[@somethinginthenothing]

She made herself so freaking unlikable. "We can handle people getting shot and disabled for life and traumatized..." like what a stupid thing to say! It's like she thinks that would have been an acceptable outcome

[@lindsaymccartney2480]

She wasnt mad her husband bought a 15yr old bought a gun , she was more mad that they had been so long it ate into her Christmas tree cutting time ???? Why are 15 yr olds even allowed in gun shop or at a shooting range and when he got caught looking at bullets in school she said " next time dont get caught " i mean pretty weird response , i have mixed feelings , I think she had a incaling about her son but just brushed it off and didn't want to think he had issues , like brushing of the seeing ghosts and things, saying that's just him messing around , maybe he had switched in his head from the normal joking around to him actually having issues and she never took it seriously because like she said they joked around alot . So im not excusing her reactions and responses to when the school contacted her because as a parent if the school ring you about this type of stuff you take notice and take prevention measures even if you think its just him messing . I cant wait to hear what the dads excuse was for biying him the gun in the first place there is no excuse or reasoning , no kid needs a gun no matter if it was just for a shooting range shoukdnt be legally allowed until 21 or 25 possibly. But shes not coming across very attentive maube some mothers just aren't as full on maternal and as hands on as others not everyone is thay way , once , and dads generally aren't so poor kid didnt have the maternal side he needed

[@TaylorMarty]

I am having mixed feelings as well. I haven’t watched every video of the trial so don’t attack me. I feel like a lot of parents brush their kids problems off. From experience with myself and with my niece and nephew… we always get our “problems” brushed off and that we are acting dumb, it’s all in our heads blah blah… so I can see that totally happened here. From what I’ve seen so far is that the school failed to report this to law enforcement… here in my city… that would’ve been handled right away.

[@EmilyA..]

The judge and the attorneys are so unprofessional

[@user-et4wi4cu1s]

I think it's pretty telling when youtubers have already determined the verdict. If you all were a jury id be concerned.

[@Salty-cracker68]

She didn’t start getting emotional until she started talking about her stress, not the murder of innocent children, who just minding their own business at school by a gun that she purchased. But about her anxiety.

[@jankasza5538]

Right, NO concern for the murdered children!

[@sandienimocks8158]

Her attorney should not be an attorney.

[@ROSEB]

SHES A LIAR STRAIGHT UP L I A R!!!! YOU'RE GUILTY

[@baconbap]

Gee, I hope you're never on my jury.

[@noraniland288]

This lawyer is all over the place,does she really kn what she is doing.I wonder if one of her 4 children were murdered if she would be doing this.???

[@itsjustme7487]

I believe it's being done to get her a new trial or a mistrial.

[@baconbap]

She's doing it because of the police's illegal means of cajoling information from witnesses. Defense attorneys know their clients are most likely guilty but they are looking out for client's rights. Those are the rights of us all.

[@DogHairRules]

I see the Defense attorney is still testifying. Is that something they allow in Michigan? Because I've never seen it before.

[@basicallyno1722]

EXACTLY

[@amills9261]

Jennifer Crumley did not feel like a failure as a parent, she just felt bad that her son was sad…what?

[@bonnietrottier3187]

Jennifer looks like she’s aged 10 yrs

[@pepe8680]

She looks like she smells, dirty, just like her house.

[@susanshew2373]

Cougher - get out of courtroom!

[@veronicamorgan1915]

Why a coughing so much..seems purposeful

[@BeeJoy-179]

LMAO! It annoys me too.

[@karenwalters1211]

She came home and put a pot of water on the stove? Not sure what it was for but probably the last thing I’d be thinking of

[@8jerasikapark8]

Wow she looks.....sooo different!!

[@sissy4506]

Looks Bad.

[@rootzero]

She's gained at least 20 lbs. In jail

[@tinaschultz1976]

Traumatized

[@jennydiver100]

Almost all of this lawyer's questions are leading and have been throughout the trial. She has a tough job, but, c'mon.....

[@somethinginthenothing]

I don't know why the judge is allowing that. She is essentially talking for the witnesses.

[@marlenebulger6822]

I'd like to see the texts and calls between her and her attorney regarding turning themselves in. I feel this attorney could've maybe been connected to the art studio guy and orchestrated their stay. I felt they were on the run, and trying to work out a car deal to not be tracked. The phone switches were exactly for that reason, IMO.

[@ROSEB]

HER LAWYER IS A CLOWN

[@elsteve43]

This woman is terrible. Her demeanor makes me angry. I hope that the jury sees her negligence.

[@zamzamwater8749]

All of these judge mental comments, try practicing some empathy. Some of y’all really don’t know what your kids are up to.

[@wendyjones363]

Nobody should be punished for the actions of others. This poor woman is not responsible for her son's actions.

[@saltcitysunshine]

No, she’s responsible for her actions and inactions, and they led to the deaths of innocent people.

[@mjchiwara]

#stayinschool You can be charged if you drive the get-away car, you can be charged for arming a child killer.

[@kellyprofitt5123]

Please...."Poor woman????" There is no poor woman here. Poor son and pool kids at this school smh. She's an absolutely abhorrent mother. Actually doesn't deserve that title. She ignored her son and even still refuses to say he needed help. She said she didn't even remember his texts when he was begging for her to text him back. Her response, "he was just messing with us. " Any good mother knows when their child is "off." If you care and pay attention you would know if something is going on. She had plenty of signs. She chose to not only ignore them but allowed him to have a gun. She also tried to force herself to cry when the four victims were mentioned. This woman is.cold and callous. No emotions.

[@cheshirecat888]

She isn't being punished for his actions. She's being charged for her own actions in the situation that also led to the final outcome. "Poor woman"? Save your sympathy for the victims and their families.

[@kmurray559]

Her lawyer rode the short bus 😮

[@missychelle33]

The fact that you took so long to answer that victim question at the end is just disgusting. Her answer should’ve been no right away. She is in no way victim in the situation.

[@kalynn36]

Parents are the legal guardians and in charge of decisions regarding health, safety,basic needs for kids. Deliberate actions or inactions to protect their child and greater society is criminal.

[@rosmarybourque2294]

U didn't think there would be injuries.....again for the 50millionth times, defense is LEADING,!

[@tishwitch]

She couldn't even say "I wish he hadn't killed anyone" because she knows he was damn dangerous, and she ignored it all and gave him a gun.

[@lindahoganson8721]

Definitely on-the-job training for this Defense attorney.

[@cheshirecat888]

It's more like school work experience 😂 "I'm so distracted.....you're being so mean....wahhhh"

[@janettebergeron3819]

I think she is coming across as quite truthful. Reading everyone else's comments makes me feel like I am quite gullable.

[@babyclown]

No no I agree

[@babyclown]

People just feel strongly is all. So they’re looking for confirmation bias. Go with your gut.

[@ZombieGameZ]

I feel like I would have probably handled it the same way after the event, maybe worse. The mob mentality is real I would be scared too. In hindsight it looks bad but dealing with the reality of it all I don't know how any parent could function knowing their child was responsible 😢

[@Moonbunny143]

I feel she is mostly truthful as well. She's no mother of the year but it's turned into a witch hunt.

[@danado672]

I agree.

[@veronicamorgan1915]

Get the cougher out of the courtroom.

[@susanshew2373]

I commented on it, too! Mybe it's juror.

[@jeffw1477]

Been coughing the entire time. So distracting!

[@queenbee7749]

What kind of lawyer is this? I have never seen/heard someone so bad at their job. Damn.

[@jlob5296]

Like this is so painful to watch. Whoever supported putting her on the stand… What a terrible tragic idea.

[@vickiefrisbie1000]

For everyone arguing that the mother didn’t pull the trigger, the getaway driver didn’t rob the bank but is just as involved in the eyes of the law. It’s intent. It’s negligence. It’s abdication of responsibility for a minor. She put the gun in his hands. She ignored his cries for help. And that’s the charge. Are you saying that all the facts that the prosecution will bring to light regarding the gross negligence are true for you? You’d ignore pleas for help from your child? You’d see graphic violence drawn on a piece of paper with bullets in hand and walk away from them claiming you had no time? Ok. Got it.

[@kmurray559]

They got this lawyer off of TEMU 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jamesmartin7282]

There was an empty whiskey bottle in Ethans room, unhidden. Yeah, she's a good parent...

[@angelirohival6270]

I worked in a school where if a student was exhibiting that type of behavior, example drawing pictures of killing someone, etc, it was mandatory that the student be taken off the premises and directly to a mental health facility. The parents were not asked to take their child. The child was removed by a staff member which was usually their counselor or a security guard. One of my students made a hollow fake gun in welding class and was expelled. Another said he was going to blow up the school, and was expelled. The administration did not play around.

[@basicallyno1722]

I think the school should be taken to a civil suit - but I also think this parents should be taken in for manslaughter. She knew her son was mentally ill, she knew her son lost his only friend (her words), and (according to her son) the child asked her for psychological help because he explicitly stated he was hearing voices and seeing demons. Despite that - they didn’t get him help and instead purchased him a gun.

[@americatruecrime]

Thank you for covering this case.

[@blackskyguy3421]

We as parents are responsible for our under age children and For their actions good and bad . But her and her husband had 1 responsibility and they failed. Holding them accountable is being responsible.

[@basicallyno1722]

They worse than failed. They ignored his requests for psych help due to him reporting he heard voices and saw demons, and instead bought him a gun. She stated she knew he lost his one friend. Mom was so absorbed in her extramarital affairs, horses and drinking. Makes me wonder if she bought him a gun with the intent he take his own life. It just seems criminal. Plus the accusations of her and her husband being negligent toward their other child makes it more suspicious. Mom says she wouldn’t do anything different and says “I hope he would’ve just killed us.” I can’t help she meant “killer himself.”

[@lydialutz]

It is just totally unbelievable to me that after... --knowing he was troubled --having just had a meeting about his note in school --finding out from husband that bullets and gun were gone that she had no wonderings or suspicions that he might be the shooter. She's worried she got hit by a shooter and she's worried that he might commit suicide, but she's not worried, doesnt even think it is possible that he was the shooter? That honestly seems impossible that this was her mindset.

[@loubri7016]

Anytime she lies on something hard for her to answer she looks only at her attorney. Anytime she is trying to be “liked” she faces jury.

[@karenharding2796]

Why aren’t they asking which one suggested that he get a gun? Just because James bought it, was it his choice?

[@cheshirecat888]

And she was clearly on board because she had her lovely mother son day at the range with his Christmas present 🤢