Post-Mortem 1: Exar Kun, Darth Maul (Ep1) + Series Overview

[@macattackk]

OMG I just got such a shock watching this video lol. I can't believe I got a genuine mention from you, thank you so much.

[@robgeorge4581]

+Macattack 1 You derserve it. Your tier system breakdown was easy to understand and brilliant. I used it as a base for my own way (which is the same with + and -).

[@reedjames2326]

It always surprises me how well Halo and Star Wars go together

[@SnoutBetter002]

I was going to say, the music of Halo fits the Star Wars universe so well

[@williamhenning4700]

"Tier 1's like Grandmaster Yoda, Luke Skywalker, Darth Sidious-" *Nods head in agreement* "And Darth Bane-" *Spits out water*

[@ironinquisitor3656]

Bane is NOT tier 1.

[@GreyJedi91]

William Henning yeah I agree. As a huge Bane fan and one who thinks the extent to which the rule of two actually worked is at least questionable, that threw me for a loop. When he says that the Forcecast agreed on this tiered structure, I think he means himself Evan and Callan.

[@Spellshot693]

Based on the tiering system from this video, Bane is tier 1.5. I’ve always thought he and Dooku would contend very evenly in a fight, with Bane’s raw power giving him the most substantial (but still small) advantage

[@GreyJedi91]

Tanner Lowrie personally I have little use for tiering systems because they don't account for specific strengths and weaknesses all that well and can create the illusion of false-equality between those appointed to the same tier. That aside your assessment of Bane vs Dooku reads to me as though I wrote it myself. I agree with every word.

[@Spellshot693]

GreyJedi91 Yeah. I personally hate tiering, and only use it when thinking about complete mismatches (Kenobi’s style is optimized to defeat Sidious’s, but Kenobi would never defeat Sidious)

[@darylfranklin5354]

I actually agreed with the listing and now I finally understand what the tiering means

[@OralandXGaming]

Would love to see a postmortem of Cao vs Ventress, both are such complex fighters and you seem to have a really sound understanding of the two

[@karlinggard]

I'm really looking forward to this series! Could you do Darth Marr and Darth Malgus? You'll probably do Malgus, but it'd be great to settle how powerful Marr is beyond his reputation.

[@karlinggard]

Ideally do a versus video between the two!

[@geoffreyedgson7875]

Darth Marr can't ever really be used in a Versus series at all. His entire reputation is just that, reputation. He wasn't shown fighting in an comics or video trailers, nor were his powers expanded on in a Role Playing guide. He was undoubtedly a top tier individual, but even the SWTOR combat system fails to provide any distinct or unique technical mechanics of a character's fighting style like what is present in KOTOR. Darth Maglus can be featured. Although he is undoubtedly Tier 1.5 or Tier 1 across the board.

[@nahuelsanchez2196]

There is a small text in the SWTOR offical page that describes him fighting against his apprentice Darth Lachris in a semi-serious duel, but I don´t think that would be enough to make a versus video featuring him.

[@dimond360_]

There’s also a cut scene of him force crushing a republic soldier but again still not enough

[@zackthezabarak739]

Your videos are always exceptional and you perfectly capture the strengths and weaknesses of the two combatants. Darth Maul is my favorite Star Wars villain and you captured my favorite elements of his character.

[@Bastion83]

Thank you for doing these videos man. In a time in which I dont recognize Star Wars anymore(EU Era forever thank you), your work reminds me why I loved this brand, and I why I hope for better days with it.

[@primemachine146]

JENSARIEEEEEEEEE, haven’t watch you in at least 2years, you were my favourite Star Wars youtuber when it came to versus, keep up the good work man

[@xscar10]

My only complaint is that I think Darth Maul should have been a teir 2 swordsman, other than that, agree.

[@OptimumCrusader]

This series is dope! Desperate to see more! :D

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

So, how does the Tier system really works : - Tier 1 : Complete Mastery. Absolute paragons of the Force. GM Luke, Yoda, Palpatine - Tier 1.5 : Complete Mastery with minor limitations. The absolute best, though crippling handicaps, age, or overspecialization prevent them from perfection. Dooku, Darth Bane (as of DoE), Darth Vader, Mace Windu, Exar Kun, Kyle Katarn. - Tier 2 : Advanced Mastery. The top of the High Council for the Jedi Order. Obi Wan, Koon and Ti. Other examples could be Darth Malgus (by the time of the False Emperor and Onslaught arcs), Darth Marr, Darth Baras, Darth Thanaton, Kao Cen Darach, Corran Horn, Lumiya, Mara Jade Skywalker. - Tier 2.5 : Advanced Mastery in the making. Anakin Skywalker and arguably DE Luke. - Tier 3 : Standard Mastery. Lower High Council members, great skilled knights or Sith Apprentices. Kit Fisto, Saesee Tinn, Ki Adi Mundi, Adi Gallia, Eeth Koth, Qui Gon Jinn, Jaden Korr, Cade Skywalker, Galen Marek, Sora Bulq, Asajj Ventress, Darth Zannah, Darth Maul. - Tier 4 : Advanced Application. Where most highly skilled masters and knights fall into. Rahm Kota, Luminara Unduli, Quinlan Vos, Cere Junda, RoTJ Luke, Cal Kestis (Jedi Survivor), Rebels Ahsoka Tano, Bultar Swan, AoTC Obi Wan and Anakin (with the latter perhaps being a bit higher). - Tier 5 : Standard Application. A tad above the regular mold, usually highly skilled Padawans, mid level knights or low level Dark Siders. Aayla Secura, TPM Obi Wan, TCW Ahsoka (Seasons 3-7), Nahdar Vebb, Kanan Jarrus, Cal Kestis (JFO), Darth Wredd, Komari Vosa, Savage Opress, Teneb Kel, Kylo Ren (yes, eat your hearts out). - Tier 6 : Basic Application. The barebone basics of how to use a lightsaber and the Force. Ezra Bridger (Rebels Season 1-2), Yun, the Petranaki Arena fodder. - Tier 7 : Basic Knowledge. Younglings and untrained Force users. ANH Luke, Grogu (a.k.a. Baby Yoda). Feel free anyone to chime in and either correct or add, thanks.

[@vincentescolano]

Luminara is tier 3 I think but overall well laid out.

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

@@vincentescolano Based on what ?

[@lapplandkun9273]

How would you rate Jaden Korr during Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy?

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

@@lapplandkun9273 Given how similar Kyle and Jaden's development as Jedi were, I'm gonna say Tier 4, much like AoTC Anakin. He was a quick learner, he was already showing power in the Force and someone who can hold their own against Taviom and her Disciples at that age, is definetely a rising star.

[@lapplandkun9273]

@@yrooxrksvi7142 Interesting. How would you rate xanatos and set hearth?

[@ironinquisitor3656]

I hope to see a video with more of Jerec's dark jedi minions. Specifically the ones you haven't used. Yun, Gorc, Pic, and Sariss.

[@Enrico_Palazzo_opera_singer]

Sariss would be awesome...but to my mind...Gorc and Pic were just silly

[@ironinquisitor3656]

Sariss is really cool. Did you know she was originally a Mos Eisly background character in the Original Star Wars film? Gorc and Pic are a little goofy yeah.

[@spacetrippinvatoofthestars4649]

What about Yun vs Rosh Penin?

[@ironinquisitor3656]

I ike Yun vs Rosh Penin.

[@loyalcompanion2104]

Desann??

[@raphaelhanna8345]

This to me seems like a much better ranking system than what Nick Gillard created and it makes way more sense within the context of proper lore unlike Nick Gillards ranking system and I will consider using it for my stories (of course I will give credit to you and mac attack for creating it)

[@lapplandkun9273]

Curious, what stories are you making that involves the tier list?

[@raphaelhanna8345]

@@lapplandkun9273 Star wars fanfiction that has unique characters and involves several lightsaber to lightsaber duels

[@johndiaz4480]

I absolutely loved this video

[@Robinsong8008]

Really enjoyable video. U do good work and it's always great to see your videos in my feed.

[@anibala.moralessanchez8018]

This was... intellectually refreshing. Looking forward for more.

[@alexalexalex92]

Sound disambiguation of both characters, very well done. I tend to place Kun at Tier One, personally, and I put a bit more stock into his martial arts, but I can also appreciate the soundness of the argument you make for him. It's unfortunate, in his case, that he turned Sith...he's one of those ones who would probably have achieved much more in terms of sheer ability as a Jedi. Would be great to see these for the following: Senya Tirall Lumiya A'sharad Hett (pre-Krayt) T'ra Saa Sha Koon Xanatos Darth Zannah

[@robgeorge4581]

+Evan I def agree with Jensarrai1's assessment of Maul, heavily disagree with Kun's. When I do the tiering system, I include + and - in order to show the degree of variance and because its a tad more accurate. Here are my overall rankings for Kun. Physical: Tier 2 (agree with Jensarrai1. Peak human heavy hitter but lack of composure makes him a glass cannon). Martial Arts/Dueling: Tier 2 with single and dual blade techniques (comic said Kun and Ulic were basically equals and I place Ulic at tier 2). With saberstaff, tier 1.5 (much like Ventress, I believe Kun becomes more skillful when in use of his heavily customized weapon that allows him to maximize the effectiveness of his skill). Force wielder: Tier 1-. While Kun's amulet amp makes his raw force power tier 1 maybe even low tier 1+, his application is very direct and basic. Also, 13:05. That being said, I think Kun's skill and understanding of Sith Sorcery is not to be underestimated. Sith Sorcery in gen. can be some serious hax. Also, Jensarrai1 called Kun weak def. when going up against Odan-Urr which I agree. A tier 1- is going to have a bad time against a tier 1+ (especially because tier 1 in gen. has the most amount of variance out of all of the tiers). Basically, while Kun's power, hax, and knowledge of Sith Sorcery, and overall offensive is tier 1, maybe tier 1+, his deficiencies in terms of skill set and application weighs him down to tier 1-. Overall: Like Jensarrai1, I consider Kun's rating to be based on force abilities making him tier 1- (btw I put Darth Bane, Darth Malgus, and Cade Skywalker at this level). While his hax and overall fuckery makes him a terrifying offensive powerhouse, his uneven skill set, lack of composure and foresight, and spotty def makes him very high risk/high reward. But those are just my thoughts and I would love to hear yours on this topic.

[@adamcadwallader4573]

Just dropping by to say that I love the idea of this series and can't wait for the next entry.

[@lapplandkun9273]

they're one of the entertaining parts of the versus series community, and the only thing I'm very interested in if there are no new versus series episodes available to watch

[@DarthVagus]

Thanks Jensaarai1. I am looking forward to watching more videos from you using this tier system. I wouldn't mind seeing a less popular Jedi like Agen Kolar, or an analysis of Darth Caedus.

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

I personally see Agen Kolar as a mishmash of Anakin and Maul. Highly energetic and aggressive Form IV/V hybrid practitioner who relies on physical strikes or direct TK attacks. Shame there's not a lot about him.

[@flohimohr5585]

Great job on this one. I really hope to see more videos like this, as it gives incredible credit to detail. The only thing in your ranking I personally disaprove of is the ranking of Grandmaster Luke and Palpatine as both of them are above absolute mastery (as both of them are just ridicously overpowered).

[@andakin117]

I'm so happy to see that there are other people that place a tier on characters ability's and skill levels as I do in my head. better yet, is that I completely agree with almost everything in this video. the sole exception would be the statement that Bane was in tier 1. I say he's at the top of tier 2, a tier 1 in the making. but I don't actually think he ever actually achieved tier 1 status. as I agree with EvanNova95's Hoth vs Bane video.

[@zackthezabarak739]

Antares Draco vs Ki Adi Mundi: Draco is a master duelist who slayed dozens of low tier sith and contended with Darth Havoc, Darth Talon and Celeste Morne( muur talisman). Mundi held out the longest in a match with Grevious and had a brief match with Ventress ( a draw since she had to leave before either could get an advantage.) I think he may have fought magnigaurds…. I’m not sure. Kit Fisto and Nadar Vebb vs Galen Marek and Rham Kota. Depa Bilaba vs Shado Vao. Darth Nihl vs Assajj Ventress.( legends).

[@darkrad7535]

I love this new format! kepp it on, im looking forward to it!

[@zackthezabarak739]

Just finished TCW season 7 and rewatched this and felt like talking about Maul. There are several of your points about how TCW failed Maul as a character that I agree with namely turning his distinctive look into a slave brand ( THOSE ARE SITH TATTOOS DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!) . But while I enjoy Maul as a diamond in the rough , It doesn’t really Bother me that in canon he’s breed to be a warrior and is the child of a powerful dark side figure. In a previous video ( can’t remember which you were on a group chat) you mentioned Maul wouldn’t be interested in revenge on Kenobi , only in returning to Sidious. I personally don’t see how he wouldn’t want to butcher the person who cut him in half and sent him into animal crazed exhale . Now I agree that wouldn’t be his sole motivator but it would definitely be his secondary motivation after serving the sith cause. As for Sidious , I fully agree he’d want to return to sidious and continue his Sith destiny, but even if he did sidious would never take him back. Sidious hates failure and even if he took Maul back based solely on him surviving certain death, he’d still have lost his destiny as apprentice to Dooku. I loved All of Darth Maul’s canon appearances except for Son of Dathomire as I fully believed Maul would want to return to sidious and felt he’d need to prove himself worthy again by taking power for himself and procuring a section of the galaxy that wasn’t already on Sidious immediate radar. But they decided to have him just get power so he and his mom could kill Sidious. THAT is something you and I completely agree on as sucking. But otherwise I’m cool with the changes to Maul’s personality as he went through a major physical trauma AND he immersed himself so deeply in the dark side that he survived being cut in half and made a set of legs( that were held together for over a decade only with the force) so I can accept those changes to the character. Plus the canon has confirmed that before his defeat on Naboo his personality was the same as legends ( with slightly more dialogue and slightly more individuality) a hardcore Sith warrior and cult follower who was a being made of hate and bloodlust. But he also was very arrogant, impatient, and longed to reveal himself as a sith to the galaxy. He had the same tactical sensibilities as you just described, but then traded them for his tcw tactical sensibilities. In all I admit that Phantom Menace Maul is a superior character, but I still enjoy TCW Maul.

[@Brandon_737]

Good to have ya back Jensaarai.

[@01Sunshine234]

awesome idea. I'm excited for being here for the first of this series.

[@Wright805]

An excellent video with an intriguing analysis. I'd like to point out though that Exar Kun was able to fight Ulic Qel-Droma to a standstill (the comic even states that neither could overcome the other) without using any tricks or style shifts, just good old fashioned swordsmanship (since he hadn't modified his lightsabre into a sabre-staff at that point). Given that Ulic was the best Form V master of his day (and arguably the best duellist overall), I'd say that demonstrates a very high level of skill even when he's limited to just one configuration.

[@williamhenning4700]

Especially considering Ulic was able to fend off Sylvar without the Force after not having fought seriously for years.

[@Wright805]

Exactly. Ulic was an amazing duellist, probably the best of his era. Being able to fight him on equal footing is highly impressive. Plus we see Exar Kun duel twice with the sabre-staff, once against Vodo and then against Ood Bnar. Against Vodo Kun started with his standard lightsabre and only switched to using the sabre-staff after the first exchange. Against Ood he was under a time constraint (a supernova was hurtling towards the planet) and needed to finish him fast so he opened with the sabre-staff. This suggests that his usual method is to start with standard lightsabre combat and switch to his sabre-staff only if the opponent gives him difficulty.

[@williamhenning4700]

Wright805 Agreed.

[@Wright805]

+William Henning Thanks.

[@robgeorge4581]

+Wright805 I agree as well. I feel Kun's dueling abilities in raw skill and force power +hax is being sold short here.

[@captaincokecan]

Need more Darth Baras. He had a large connection to the dark side

[@williamhenning4700]

"large" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@JohnMasterCheif]

YES! more Darth Fatass!

[@rudolphantler6309]

You mean a belly!

[@dimond360_]

The lord of weight but in all seriousness yes Baras should be used one day as he is very underrated and powerful. The guy bent the spirit of Darth Traya to his will and stole her force visions. That’s what we call powerful

[@ironstarofmordian7098]

Patience is a virtue and it pays off

[@tylerlyon773]

this series is awesome cant wait for the next part of this series

[@EU_Cafe]

Yo these are going to be great for reference. Awesome idea! An idea to mix things up to show the lower tiers why not analyze the character of Scout from Yoda: Dark Rendezvous and some of the Commando novels. She's weak in the force but i think her combat style is worth looking at. Just an idea.

[@azronger7214]

Also, according to one of TCW magazines states Maul does know Force Lightning

[@TrajGreekFire]

Can you tell which one, maybe there are scans somewhere in the internet/

[@williamhenning4700]

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[@supadupapug896]

he could use it but he never did I wish though they showed that he at least use the power

[@Spellshot693]

One of the interesting things about Maul for me is that he DOESN’T use lightning like pretty much every other Sith Lord.

[@supadupapug896]

well actually maul can use force lighting but he just chose not to ever use it since he thought using lighting was like, acting like a coward but I am sure if he could use it maul had a lot of potential to be unlocked.

[@ferb.3045]

Maul reminds me as Wesly Snipe's Blade but without the autocontrol of the vampire

[@OnePiece-yy1lu]

Do Nomi Sunrider.

[@Enrico_Palazzo_opera_singer]

20:22...TECHNO BEASTS!!!!!...I wish we had more lore on those

[@vetleegner2957]

Would you do a post mortem analyis of Tholme, an'ya Kuro and T'ra Saa?

[@RTDon]

Love it. Continue this series.

[@Spellshot693]

Great series! I hope to see a lot more of these. Perhaps with other members of the Forcecast?

[@caos1925]

Hearing Kun's descriptions, makes me want to see him fight Cao Cen Darach.

[@Spellshot693]

Adam Case Kun stomps. I love Darach, but Kun’s Force power is way too much and Darach’s use of the Force would give Kun countless opportunities to abuse this.

[@zackthezabarak739]

One of your weapon videos could be interesting if you compared the lightsabers of Exar Kun, Zannah, and Darth Maul. They are the same weapon type but their different lengths are indicative of the users personality and fighting style. personally I think the length of Maul’s rebels lightsaber is the perfect length for a saber staff, since it is shorter than his original weapon ( that was too big and an easy target) and is still large enough the he can comfortably use both hands without sacrificing grip. Or maneuverability.( Exar Kin’s saber is barely big enough for one hand when both blades are active, with both hands it’s a miracle he has all his fingers. Zannah’s weapon is closer to mauls, but made to her body type.)

[@robgeorge4581]

Had a feeling this was coming. Sadly I missed this when it came out due to being in China. Full thoughts after I watch.

[@rayden120]

I think that why they wrote Maul they way he is in Darth Plagueis novel to explain why Maul has these limitations.

[@robgeorge4581]

This overall is a really really solid post-mortem and already looking forward to whats coming next. Macattack's tier breakdown is also really really good and something I agree with. However, I strongly disagree with your assessment of certain characters when you described your tier list and your assessment of Exar Kun. As other people have complained in the comments, Darth Bane is more tier 1- but I think this gripe is mainly due to how you built your system. Luke as of ROTJ felt more like AOTC Kenobi/tier 5 to me. I would not consider him top tier master and instead more top tier knight/low tier master. Interested why Darth Wreed is tier 5. Based on your video of him vs Kressh, I consider him more of a tier 4. I also think TPM Kenobi is tier 6 not tier 5. Tier 5 goes to his AOTC incarnation (Alongside ROTJ Luke). Exar Kun: I def agree that Kun's base skill is around a tier 2 level. I rank Ulic at this level and these 2 were capable of slugging it out quite evenly. Based on the description in the comic though, it stated that if this fight continued, it was basically a stalemate. But Kun's saberstaff provides him a ton of options to work with making him basically the General Greivous of his era. However, I consider Kun's as a tier 1.5 when he's using his saberstaff technique. It is layered and highly developed, but it does have some big weaknesses to it (kind of like Dooku). Considering Ulic's greater live experience and his style is optimized for strength based dueling, I can conceive that Ulic probably has the odds in his favor, but this should still be seen as highly impressive for Kun and an excellent indication of his skill. However, if Kun had his saberstaff or used force abilities, I say Kun would have likely won. Also, if you put Kun at tier 2, does that mean we are putting Darth Krayt at tier 2 as well? Because that I highly disagree with (but that's another argument). I heavily disagree with is putting Exar Kun at tier 1.5 for force abilities. While his base force power is not tier 1, the factor of his amulet does put him at the tier 1 level. Also, Kun's sith sorcery is some pretty impressive hax. His feats and abilities def puts him on the tier 1 level. Considering that you place Odan Urr on par with Yoda and Plague, this doesn't mean Kun is weak on def. While his abilities are very direct, they are highly advanced. Yoda, Plague are tier 1+ force wielders, Kun overall is a tier -1 force wielder. Also there is a statement that says Kun is more powerful than any Jedi of the era which includes Nomi and Thon (agree with Thon, Nomi is highly questionable though). Overall, I place Exar Kun as a tier -1. His unorthodox fuckery and raw power makes him extremely dangerous (especially when he's on an offensive front), but his thinly spread skill set, lack of composure, and holes in certain parts of his skill set does not make him definitive tier 1 let alone tier 1+. As for Darth Maul, I already knew your assessment, and I agree with it (except Maul's characteristics makes him a tier 2.5 to me), I just wanted to know your thoughts on his pure unarmed skills. I personally put him at tier 2 due to his style having punch, kick, clinch, and ground fighting (the 4 aspects of MMA fighting), but likely isn't a true tier 1. Overall, my main argument with your tier system is that its a bit to broad for me and makes people heavily underestimate or overestimate characters. The reason I use added a + and - system is to show the high degree of variance in each tier and because it provides a higher degree of accuracy. Glad to see you looked at some criticisms people had (including me) about this matchup and for the record, I'm not saying this is bad at all (your quality is always amazing). I just highly disagree with some of your assessments. Either way, looking forward to whats coming next. PS: Liam the Padawan and Coleman Trebor are memetic tier which makes them tier meme or tier 0.

[@DarthWill3]

Finally! A video from your channel with 1080p quality! LOL While I agree with your choice of tier for Maul's physique, my assessment of Maul as a duelist and Force wielder from _TCW_ and _Rebels_ would be as follows: Tier 1.5 (Martial); Experienced Sith Blademaster & Strategist Tier 2 (Force); Refined Master & Minor Sorcerer/Alchemist; Tier 1 in the making Overall: Tier 1.5; Seasoned Contender

[@Spellshot693]

DarthWill3 this isn’t including TCW or Rebels though. It’s only TPM. And even then, TCW is barely better if at all (I actually made a VS video between TPM and TCW Maul (#ShamelessSelfPromotion)) and Rebels Maul is arguably worse feats-wise.

[@DarthWill3]

I'd make a How Powerful is Darth Maul video, if I had the time and material. All I can do right now is compare and contrast.

[@alexrusso9221]

Tanner Lowrie I disagree with you there, Maul is far more powerful than people give him credit for, I mean he was chosen with no skill compared to mother talzin who was easily one of the best sorceresses ever. The reason Mauls force abilities are so basic is because he doesn’t use them, he instead uses his martial skill, which is on par with duelists like kenobi, shaak ti, or Vader. He just has a very specific style that can be exploited by makashi or heavy use of the force.

[@DarthWill3]

Unless he knows some Makashi himself, which is hinted in _TCW_ and _Rebels_ as well as in one or two books.

[@alexrusso9221]

DarthWill3 yes but his weapon makes the use of makashi impossible due to the double saber. And if we were to examine him using his tcw iteration maul is still never going to use it in battle. Plus having knowledge of makashi doesn’t mean you can counter it.

[@jonathancampbell5231]

Question- why did you guys never adopt the 9 tier system used for the prequel?

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

Because it's made up bs by Nick Gillard and Lucas has never adopted it as official.

[@baki484]

I always wondered how that system worked.

[@gamebrainjagras4193]

I always feel like Kun is getting overrated by his style changing, force powers seem similar to Darth Nihilis honestly. Opening up with overwhelming power to anyone who can’t handle him but utterly abandoning his force abilities if he can’t pull an instant win. I feel like Anakin would be able to dissect Kun’s fighting abilities but not really prepared to handle the force sorcery but theoretically able to handle it.

[@Not_Ghost-]

Halo Reach music! Nice background music to it dude keep up the good work

[@Acetxs]

MY NIGGA, this is what you call brilliance. Good job my fellow sw universe lover keep them coming, thank you bro.You gonna do great with the new series.

[@RQ.140]

siolo'ur'manka vs bocas'eca do it.

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

The monk with a stick vs the crazy Jar'Kai jokester. My money is on Master Siolo.

[@lachlanbird6095]

I see tier 2 and 3 as equal sword masters in some cases like anakin skywalker and obi wan with tier 2s being higher due to tactical application of their ability

[@judeskater93]

With a single bladed Lightsaber, I can see why exar kun is as skilled as he is along with using twin lightsabers, assuming he's actually using them cleverly and not as a brutish berserker as the artwork seems to indicate at times, but with his unique double bladed Lightsaber...........I'm not exactly sure. I honestly think a weapon like his would do just about as much harm to the user as it does good or even worst, mainly due to the issue of having a grip space that looks like enough for a hand and a half, even with him being able to switch the power between each end of the weapon, it'd still be a risk to him if someone pushes his blade back or counters him right, he'd pretty much be hurting himself or killing himself. Even with using physical augmentation to bolster his strength into his one hand and arm, it would still be difficult to handle the weapon when pushed back or countered. On top of that, would he really be that skilled with the weapon, I mean I can be wrong on this, but we've only seen him use it only once or twice, and it was against an opponent who was not use to a Lightsaber staff and the other fight looked he only clashed blades once and his opponent was blind sided by a musasi soldier.

[@zackthezabarak739]

Could you do a video about your favorite Star Wars characters? I know Quigon Jinn, Darth Vader, and Asajj Ventress are your favorites, but any others your a hardcore fan of?

[@baronhdl5861]

I like this idea, it’s fantastic

[@whynaut1]

You should do Asajj Ventress vs Shaak ti. As both their styles are a combination of Makashi and Ataru. Also I do not think light side Makashi users get enough love

[@Spellshot693]

whynaut Ti solidly, but not easily

[@whynaut1]

Tanner Lowrie Agreed. While Asajj edges out with slightly more dexterity, Ti is a freaking tank when it comes to endurance. I think Ti could outlast and then overwhelm Ventress

[@Spellshot693]

whynaut I don’t think she’s more dexterous tbh. I think they’re about equal.

[@kiadisandwich1836]

Ventress for sure.

[@alexrusso9221]

This is a good fight but it’s Ti’s game. She would essentially just allow ventress to attack while she fell back and looked for an opening. One that would defined appear due to ventress being an extremely sloppy duelist. It would be close, but ventress is almost the perfect opponent for shaak

[@wolfgod6443]

Very interesting, but I have one question. Is it possible to simply take Exar Kun's artifacts away from him, literally stripping away his power? Also, going off your comparisons to Dooku, I see Exar Kun as the type of warrior who has taken full advantage of his prime without thinking about the future. His exhausting strategy would come back to bite him when he's older (had he survived till then). Unlike Maul who had room to grow, Kun used the dark side like a drug and it would've torn his body apart after a while. His only hope would be sorceries, turning himself into a nightsister-like force wielder. But I don't see that happening because of his personality. I don't think he would adapt until it was too late. Thinking on it more, Exar Kun reflects the criticisms the Rule of Two Era Sith had on the Old Republic Sith. He was powerful, yes, but he was purely a destructive force with no lasting impact or legacy (at least nothing fully thought out). Compare him to Bane, Plagueis, or Vader where their affects on the galaxy are felt centuries or millennia after their deaths and Exar Kun really didn't matter in the grand scheme of the Sith.

[@spikegilfer1997]

Coleman Trebor..... Ouch To be generous _Ouch_

[@Fulcron13]

Exar has a lot of potential to be the most powerful, which he is, but he's kind of like Anakin who never reached that potential.

[@caos1925]

Or bask versus bundari, two great stick masters

[@MasonNoThumbs]

I think Plo Koon VS Darth Maul (from the Phantom Menace) would be a great matchup

[@tiredjediknight3110]

Darth Maul.

[@robgeorge4581]

Im going to be that guy and say Koon beats TCW Maul but likely loses to TPM Maul.

[@tiredjediknight3110]

@@robgeorge4581 that's an interesting take, if you have the time I'd like to hear your thought process on that when you're free.

[@robgeorge4581]

@@tiredjediknight3110 Thanks. Kind of busy right now so I can't post my full thought. Probably will get to this by the weekend though.

[@tiredjediknight3110]

@@robgeorge4581 Yeah no problem, no rush or anything.

[@KumaoftheForest]

Now I wanna see Darth Maul vs Darth Zannah or Maul vs Shado Vao

[@rudolphantler6309]

Advised foes for Exar Kun: Darth Jadus Darth Nihilus Desann Revan

[@exarkun9790]

Kuns defense was only broken like twice in his whole time as a sith. When he was force pushed by odan urr we can’t forget odan urr was described as “the yoda of his day” and he then still got one shot by Kun so we can’t underestimate odan and therefore kun id say Kun is a better duelist than bane and therefore should be tier one. Agree with everything else tho. Great video

[@exarkun9790]

Emperor Vowrawn it’s in one of the official fact files from the early 2000s an yeah he was OP lol

[@mike16apha16]

i see you have the RPG guides for Star Wars featured often in your videos. hey do you RP Star Wars? and if so could you give me a list of guides, books, and other materials i'd need to start RP games of Star Wars for myself and my friends? also preferably so it lines up with Legends continuity ;)

[@helious5056]

Exar kun vs guts would be a awesome what if fight

[@CompositeCreativity]

holozlaer 235 Guts isn’t a Star Wars character, so Jensaari won’t do anything with him (or any character outside the SW franchise).

[@IronKyo]

imagine the force powers from Guts' rage. Add berserker armor and its a wrap

[@CompositeCreativity]

Mugenfinite Again, Jensaaari won’t do it. He only does Star Wars characters for these battles.

[@IronKyo]

AntiTroll1000 i read what you said before but we're just entertaining an idea. Nowhere did we say "hey you should do this vs"

[@robgeorge4581]

Kun is quite badass be he isn't Guts level of badassness. The only ones who can give Guts a true fight is EU Vader and Darth Krayt.

[@sonic8005]

I think I like this format a bit more perhaps. It feels very good and I like this type of comparison.

[@mattmaughan6871]

Love the vid, great format for post mortem! I just am dissatisfied with the whole tier idea for lightsaber combat. It reminds me of when i was a kid and they taught about the food chain. Now they more accurately teach about a food web. I dont know, i just am dissatisfied with that type of ranking system.

[@nicholaspeterman9111]

Jar'Kai is not a standalone lightsaber form. There are Jar'Kai variants of several forms. Shii-Cho (Kit Fisto), Makashi (Ventress), Ataru (Ahsoka), Shien (also Ahsoka), Niman, and Juyo all have had Jar'Kai variants. I don't recall Soresu ever being used with two blades and I am not sure what that would look like.

[@TrajGreekFire]

Jar'kai predates lightsaber forms

[@AbsurdFalcon]

He’s not referring to it as a single form, mauls application of his saberstaff comes from study of Jarkai.

[@lapplandkun9273]

Kenobi used soresu with dual blades in TCW against cad bane.

[@tuckercoolman5390]

I know this isn’t a big part of the video but I’m very confused why you rate Anakin Skywalker a tier 3. I always saw Anakin on par with that of Shaak Ti and Obi Wan. If you wouldn’t mind I’d like an explanation. Also I LOVE this series please keep doing it. I also felt as if Maul was a little underrated especially as a duelist. I like how you described him as a kickboxer with a lightsaber. But just because he was primarily a martial artist shouldn’t affect his skill with a lightsaber. I personally see maul as a tier 2.5 or 2 just like Anakin but I can see how you would mark maul lower. Me personally I still think you low balled Maul and Anakin. But I do respect your opinion.

[@alexrusso9221]

Tucker Coolman I agree although I’d say maul and Anakin are both tier 3, but I think kenobi and shaak ti are also tier 3. I find that Shaak ti is really overhyped with her abilities and I actually think that she’s far worse than people say. Yes she’s a skilled duelist but she’s never pulled off any impressive feats. Kenobi I think is tier 3 because he lacks raw power. That’s one of the reasons he wasn’t named to become a padawan. Also he gets ragdolled by forcewielders like maul, who is on his level, and ventress, who is far below him.

[@Redoren966]

Tucker Coolman Agreed but Maul is a bit bellow Anakin as he is stronger and faster than Maul by feats

[@watchface6836]

She engaged Grievous on Hypori, survived the Clone Wars, fought a running battle against a platoon of Magnaguards single handedly, and engaged Darth Vader during operation Knightfall. No, those aren't impressive at all.

[@Redoren966]

Watchface Grievous wrecked her shit,so did a lot of padawans and younglings,that is something most Jedi who aren't fodder could do and Vader made shit her pants and run away

[@alexrusso9221]

Watchface not to be that guy but in all of your examples ti either lost or was on the losing end. The magnaguard fight you could argue she did win but that was essentially just a distraction to get the chancellor. A distraction she fell for

[@kano5256]

Darth Vader(Pre-Suit) vs Ulic Qel-Droma(Dark Lord)

[@supremeleaderren7681]

Vader stomps

[@basedtexas18]

Great video

[@zackthezabarak739]

Asajj centers vs sora bulq. Galen Marek vs Darth bane. Book 1( they are inverse of each other, bane with years of training with minimal experience and Marek with years of experience and minimal training) Lucien draay s Quinlan vos . Antares Draco vs qui gan jinn.

[@zackthezabarak739]

Sora Bulq vs Darth Malak: a mismatch at first glance but aside from the force lightning and slightly more tactical mindset the two are very similar offensive dervishes. Both displayed strategic planning outside of combat but in combat Malak uses a tad better tactical thinking. I’d argue that in terms of training/ability/experience Bulq is at least slightly better but his devolution into a feral dark sider has evened the playing field. Both use blunt applications of the force but aside from stasis and force lightning Malak has no combative force abilities that Bulq lacks.

[@Jensaarai1]

Furthermore, Malak would have an easy time contending with Bulq's Jar'Kai technique, though Bulq's single saber style poses a threat.

[@zackthezabarak739]

That’s right I hadn’t even considered their lightsaber skills…. Bulq’s Vapeed may have clumsy compared to Windu but the unorthodox technique could put Malak on the back foot.

[@shawnarner469]

I'd still really like to see Maul vs Kaasim, think you would do that pairing justice. On a more silly note, Cad Bane vs Corran Horn might be fun. Horn lacking much in the way of combative TK might be something Bane could leverage with his bag of tricks. Still a mis-match but an amusing one.

[@SGK1206]

Maul stomps with ease

[@Spellshot693]

This is who I am Um... no. Kas’im is the one who stomps

[@Redoren966]

Tanner Lowrie Why?

[@Spellshot693]

Because Kas’im was able to completely overwhelm PoD Bane, who himself was Tier 2 at this point. Greater than TPM or TCW Maul. While Maul does have the advantage of knowing how dual blades work, Kas’im was regarded as the best swordsman of the era, and that’s against some stiff competition like Lord Hoth, Raskta Lsu and Bane himself. Maul isn’t anywhere close to being the best swordsman of his time, and either version of Maul has weaknesses that Kas’im can exploit, TPM Maul’s distaste for the Force, and TCW Maul’s lack of tactical foresight.

[@shawnarner469]

Tanner I agree Kassim out fences Maul fairly handily. The contention point for me is that when it comes right down to it, Maul isn't a fencer. "Kickboxer with a lightsabre" as it were. That's something likely fairly alien to Kassim. However dealing with superior blade to blade duelists is likely pretty common to Maul. After all his teacher was Sidious, who completely eclipses Kassim. Even in a force match, I'm not sure that imbalance would be as much as issue as both combatants are 90% physical fighters. Basic powers are likely all either would employ, and I doubt either has the raw power to really harm the other directly in that manner. Again my opinion, but I see this one being much closer even with the mismatch because of how the two would go at each other. The strongest doesn't always win a fight after all.

[@rudolphantler6309]

Well if tiers between tiers exist, like 1.5, then the tiering system is flawed.

[@durp002]

I think you're kind of underestimating Exar Kun when you talk about him coming up against Nomi. Maybe later on in the follow up story where she is pretty much that grand master, but I think if Nomi came across Kun during the new sith wars in a 1v1 she would be on the losing side.

[@Priceluked]

Really old comment I know but I definitely agree. Nomi was a Mary Sue in many respects but I don’t think that even she would have been able to defeat Kun 1v1 during the Great Sith War nor likely for years afterward though she probably could match and defeat him at the peak of her ability. It’s stated how Nomi was the “Luke Skywalker” of the era but I would still place her at her prime to be at Yoda level at best so a little bit below GM Luke though still insanely impressive.

[@johnchukwudum673]

I love Darth Maul

[@diavoloarc]

Since you place Exar Kun in the same tier as Dooku, I’m curious who you think would win in a confrontation. Exar Kun is more inherently powerful, but Dooku is more refined. I know Antoine Bandale has done that matchup before, but would you agree with his conclusion?

[@austinkersey2445]

In my opinion, the way it plays out is this: Physical Ability: Obviously, this goes to Exar Kun. Equipment: Exar Kun barely takes it. Martial Arts Training and Lightsaber skills: Dooku takes it due to superior skill and refinement of Makashi versus Exar Kun's spread-thin Niman. Kun's Trakata counters and constant blade-length manipulations would be ineffective against the Count. Force Ability: Dooku wins by having a similar level of offensive output with a highly comparable, if not greater level of variety and skill when compared to Exar Kun. He also has very robust defenses, which Kun severely lacks. Strategy and Tactics: Dooku wins pretty convincingly, due to his superior strategic and tactical sensibilities. Kun can at times walk into encounters with a bad plan, or worse, no plan at all. When he does this it tends to bite him in the ass. Dooku has contingencies and countermeasures out the ass, and has proven his intellectual ability time and again versus one of the Jedi Order's greatest in his era (Obi-Wan Kenobi). Dooku is generally superior, though not by enough to where Exar Kun can not compete. It's just that Dooku held a deep and intimate understanding of the Force, with a vast pool of knowledge and skill that came with his age. Kun was the prodigy who took shortcuts, as mentioned in the video. He just wasn't developed enough to match Dooku. This is just my opinion, but I like to think it makes sense. If I'm gonna be fair though, it would be close, and would be an entertaining fight nonetheless.

[@kagamiuchihathebeast5862]

i feel like dooku has more experience, in legends he studied the holocron of darth andeddu in the AOTC NOVEL dooku was less tired than yoda after their fight was over and in a TCW COMIC dooku electrocuted yoda's ear

[@kagamiuchihathebeast5862]

@@austinkersey2445 in the legends novels dooku was said to be fitter than men half his age without using the force if dooku was 82 or 83 during the time of that statement/quote then he'd be fitter than 41 year old human adults

[@austinkersey2445]

@@kagamiuchihathebeast5862 I get that, but the fact remains that Dooku's prime is far behind him, and his phsyique (while robust) is not a match for a Jedi/Sith warrior in his prime.

[@kagamiuchihathebeast5862]

@@austinkersey2445 his physique is probably better than palpatines if u remove the force as a factor (like force valor) though it is true palpatine would beat him if he had the force & exar kun can beat dooku if the force is not a factor (cause hes younger) but no one ever talks about how without the force even YODA is nothing

[@lonelyone4119]

Have you ever considered doing K'kruhk vs desann?

[@robgeorge4581]

+Reed Summers K'kruhk curbstomps due to his hat.

[@lonelyone4119]

Rob George 😂😂

[@robgeorge4581]

+Reed Summers But in all seriousness, Desann curbstomps Dark Times K'kruhk. I have no idea about GM K'kruhk because his exact level is quite difficult to determine.

[@lonelyone4119]

Rob George I don't think it will be a curbstomp I K'kruhk would give desann a run for his money

[@robgeorge4581]

+Reed Summers I'm def sure Dark Times K'Kruhk will survive this fight. However, Desann appears to outclass K'Kruhk by a solid margin as a duelist and force user. Dueling: According to the Wizards of the Cost, "Desann and Kyle had multiple hazardous confrontations, during which each combatant attempted to persuade the other to join his cause" This indicates that Desann's overall level of combative ability is on the level of Kyle Katarn. While its true Katarn wasn't technically at his prime yet, this is still extremely impressive. Force abilities: Desaan is capable of battlemind boosting his combat performance, force lightning, and force illusions capable of deceiving Kyle Katarn. I have no idea if K'Kruhk is capable of dealing with force illusions. Also worth noting that he has force pushed Luke Skywalker (who at this point is somewhere between DE and GM), and force choked Kyle Katarn. I guess this isn't a curbstomp and instead more of a mismatch.

[@dragonballtalk8527]

Please make more vids frequently

[@Fatfit2]

I like these tiers

[@ird323]

Can you do Remulus Dreypa (a peer of Karness Muur) vs Darth Krayt?

[@ironinquisitor3656]

Even though he is incredibly weak in the Force I would love to see Darovit used in a VS match. I just can't think of someone to put him up against.

[@Wright805]

Scout maybe?

[@ironinquisitor3656]

Scout or Season 1 Ezra Bridger were the only people I've thought of so far.

[@Wright805]

Yeah it can be hard to think of good match-up's for some characters.

[@TheSunStudio1]

Which Tier was TCW Ahsoka Tano?

[@vincentescolano]

Probably Tier 6

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

@@vincentescolano Hell no, Tier 5 or 4.5 is more likely. Tier 6 perhaps in Season 1-2, but by the Citadel Arc, she was a lot more developed.

[@aG-td2uu]

Man how is anakin skywalker a tier 3, his physical strength is a 2, his raw force ability puts him above a 3, and he was able to defeat Dooku on the basis of lightsaber skill. To me he sounds more like a 2

[@robgeorge4581]

@@Jensaarai1 Damn, that was savage. But I do agree. Anakin was a dumbass when it came to developing his skill set. Can be brilliant when he wants to though.

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

Anakin would be best described as a Tier 2.5. His lightsaber skills are 1, physical strength 2, but in terms of Force powers, he just coasts on raw talent and blunt application. Which is why he's not a full Tier 2.

[@Fulcron13]

Hey Jensaari1, can you do on my suggestions: Exar Kun vs Tulak Hord, Exar Kun vs Darth Krayt, Exar Kun vs DE Luke Skywalker, Exar Kun vs Mace Windu, Exar Kun vs Vitiate, Exar Kun vs Darth Zannah and/or Exar Kun vs Darth Revan. You choose.

[@vincentescolano]

Shouldn't Luminara be a tier 3? She's a tier 2 physically. Was skilled enough to duel Ventress on even ground despite starting the fight with a disability (Ventress resorted to her powers first once Luminara started pushing her back) making her a tier 3 duelist. In terms of force powers she matched Ventress's output and was strong enough to hold up a cave in on illum. She also uses Telekinesis in clever ways such a parrying a force push with her own and using telekinesis to attack chameleon droids with their own bombs. She seems like a tier 3 to me despite not being on the council.

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

No. As a comparison, Kota fought a pre-prime Galen early in TFU almost evenly, until he wore him down. Similar to how Luminara was able to keep up with Ventress in TCW. Even in Force powers, Kota tore down the control tower, Luminara lifted a cave ceiling. What brings her down is her rigidity and lack of adaptation when things don't go according to plan.

[@AsianTrix]

I don't disagree with the analysis. However, I do raise a point of contention with the heavy emphasis on Exar Kun's weak core skills. If anything, that points to Exar Kun's deep understanding that his core fundamentals are weak. He recognizes his own weakness and thus creates a way to bypass them. He is not a good single saber duelist, thus he uses a double bladed saber staff. He is not so impressive without his tricks, that is why he works to improve them. To me, it shows that Exar Kun enjoys fighting. He is willing to handicap himself in order to have a more enjoyable fight. When he recognizes that a fight will not be enjoyable, he one shots out the door. Or if he recognizes that he may lose, he resorts to his bag of tricks.

[@lapplandkun9273]

That speaks more to arrogance then. If he realizes that his core saber technique is lacking and builds a saberstaff to compensate, its just him realizing the problem and brushing it aside or pretending to ignore it by using a gadget to cover up his mistakes. Unlike Anakin, who is arrogant as kun but realizes his mistakes and learns from them in both the EU and TCW, Kun is content to rely on his customized weapon to pull him through scenarios that he knows his core technique would be inefficient to handle. Kun's major weakness is his arrogance. While that is common among sith, Kun takes it further because he won't improve his saber technique to address the issue. He just creates a gadget as a viable solution

[@kieranholmes8086]

What is the name of the comic where he’s crushing that guy’s throat?

[@bakionigeri6414]

1:02 FORCE USER TIER LIST

[@ilovehistory5210]

So vitiate/valk is tier 1 ?

[@robgeorge4581]

His force abilities are tier 1+. Just short of demi god level. But his dueling skill is ass.

[@supremeleaderren7681]

Valkorion is on the same level as Luke and Sidious if not above.

[@Starwarsdude8221991]

I would love a tier list of this anyone got a link

[@lapplandkun9273]

link in description

[@TheOmegagoldfish]

Jensaari, what is your opinion on the Disney movies?

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

Hates them

[@kevinnitta1301]

When are you going to bite the bullet and do Obi Wan versus Sidious?

[@lapplandkun9273]

he's not. Every version of obi wan is going to get stomped by sidious.

[@kevinnitta1301]

@@lapplandkun9273 No argument here. But I am tired of Obi Wan always getting off easy. No Sidious, Revan, Ragnos or Nihilus Just matched against everyone else while avoiding the devastating dark Siders make his matches set ups with foregone conclusions.

[@diegoruiz9328]

an'ya euro vs galen marek? or more of those two? they're two of my favorites

[@williamhenning4700]

Marek wins rather easily tbh.

[@diegoruiz9328]

would he really? anya could compete against darth vader despite being f!#@ing ancient, as in 120+ when darth vader finished her off, if she were to compete at her prime she may well beat him

[@williamhenning4700]

Diego Ruiz Added years usually benefit Force user's rather then hinder them, putting that to the side though, Anya never confronted Vader directly, she only managed to last against him by using subversion tactics on her home turf.

[@SGK1206]

And Vader wasn't prime yet

[@diegoruiz9328]

in which case, vs galen or vs an'ya?

[@edwaiwood2416]

Can you do a post mortem for your Malak vs Yoda matchup?

[@Spellshot693]

Ed Waiwood I actually wouldn’t like that. We all know where he ranks Yoda overall, so that wouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone. Preferably, he should do it with a matchup between 2 characters who we don’t know his placement of (like Darach vs Bulq)

[@edwaiwood2416]

I knew where these two stood and yet here the postmortem stands. However I concede your point. I still want to see Darach vs Vader.

[@Spellshot693]

Ed Waiwood Vader’s power and skill would be too much for Darach, as awesome as he is.

[@edwaiwood2416]

Roan Shryne and Galen Marek, defeated Vader with advanced free form fighting techniques Jensaarai1 said as much in his Exar Kun vs Darth Vader Matchup. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXLHeY2qd8Shb6s I suggest the matchup because there is the chance the Battlemaster Darache would endure and pull a Trakata maneuver like he did against Vindican. Also did you not see the beginning of this video, high tiers have been defeated by challengers below their league. I still think its a 2/3 advantage Vader yet I still think this would be a worthwhile matchup. Its not like we haven't guessed the outcome before: Dooku vs Marek. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaivgqKIm9ugn7c This matchup pointed out how the same form of combat differed in intensity between Jedi and Sith philosophy: Plo Koon vs Vader. They were both Form V power duelist using force superior firepower to end the fight, and the fact of the matter was Vader took it farther and was superior for it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6DPmZ-JdpeSn8U

[@Spellshot693]

Ed Waiwood I honestly don’t see a scenario where Darach wins. Even if he gets Shan’s saberstaff. And all of the time with those matchups where higher tiers lost to lower tiers, there were numerous circumstances in favor of the lower tiers, while these videos are supposed to represent who wins the majority of the time and 99% of the time, Darach won’t have a circumstance to exploit against Vader

[@Dark-Lord-Of-The-Sith]

I have said this to you many times, the only reason the Son of Skywalker beat Lord Vader is because Anakin had started to return after discovering he also had a daughter. Maul. Thought he was cool. Totally different. Yet as the Emperor said, he is a tool. The Clone Wars, Solo, and Rebels stuff is giving him too much credit. He is just Fan Service,the same as that Tano surviving Order 66 and her destruction at the blade of her former Master. Fan Service.

[@thepersoner1182]

How the hell is Anakin only tier 3? He was extremely powerful in the force and accredited the finest D’jem So master Dooku had ever seen. Just as a Padawan, Anakin displayed more skill than Kenobi at the time. If Anakin is only displayed as a “tier 3” character in the 3v3 matchup that will probably never be made, then I doubt the verdict will be credible.

[@lapplandkun9273]

This list is outdated and does not reflect his current opinion. Anakin to Jen right now is at least tier 2

[@davidfouts4471]

satele shan vs exar kun maybe more even?

[@timothyeckard5182]

Looking forward to your new series :-) but I did have a criticism of the last one of Exar Kun and Darth Maul. In my opinion it was a big mismatch. I took one look at the video without even watching and I automatically knew Kun was going to win. I think a better matchup would have been Phantom Menace Darth Maul versus Darth Zannah. Or pin Exar Kun against someone who uses similar tactics like Darth krayt or Darth Revan

[@Spellshot693]

Timothy Eckard he’s talked about Maul vs Zannah before in his and Evan’s 2 Episode Fanalysis about reading the comments sections for Versus Suggestions (I forget what it’s called) a few months ago.