Fastest Wireless System Ever Made??? | Fox Transfer Neo Seatpost First Look!

[@jensonusabicycles]

With manufacturers starting to build their bikes around wireless components, it seems like wireless is going to be a focus for many companies in the near future. Do you prefer wireless or cable components? Do you currently own any wireless components?

[@ATHIP12]

I work in technology, so biking is my escape from the electronics that plague my daily life. A piece of me dies when I hear the electric actuator of my friend's shifter nonstop during a ride, like a pesky bug that won't leave you alone. For me, cable components all the way. I know the end is near, like the death of the 26er....but I'm going to hold on as long as I can.

[@jensonusabicycles]

@@ATHIP12 As long as there's a market for it, cables will be here to stay. Wireless technology is definitely creeping in, but with so many riders out there fighting to stay on tried and true technology, we think cables will still be in production for years to come.

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Great video Kevin and Preston! So much more informative and adult than what we did LOL! Fun seeing you guys up there!!!

[@jensonusabicycles]

Good to see you up there! We thoroughly enjoyed your video, it's refreshing to see videos with a ton of entertainment value added into product releases... tons of funny one-liners. Thanks for the positive comment!

[@justgo4033]

At that price i would hope it would go down by itself .

[@codybray6056]

Great video! Stoked to check this one out. I love the option to only send it halfway up!

[@BikeRhodeIsland]

Great video, and cool looking post! I like the idea of the bike park mode. I can’t wait for the day that someone makes an auto down dropper though, that’ll be great.

[@jensonusabicycles]

Thanks for the positive ocmment, we appreciate you watching!

[@GokkunGuru]

What’s the top secret shock that needs to be censored and covered?

[@jensonusabicycles]

It's an electronic Fox shock. Browse through our most recent videos for an overview on it!

[@mjgarber1]

This dropper is insanely quick and I’m a Kashima matchy-match dork. I might need to buy this.

[@Dsmxsteve510]

Pretty Sweet Tech!

[@jensonusabicycles]

We whole-heartedly agree! We're very impressed with this new dropper and the new features behind it. Thanks for watching!

[@ridewryan]

Nice to see fox bring some innovative features to this dropper, instead of cloning what's already out there.

[@Stankbait68]

Nice to see more competition in this space to drive innovation. Hopefully it’ll make another manufacturer follow with more than 170mm of dropper.

[@jensonusabicycles]

Same... We were surprised to see the 200mm wireless option when we showed up to the ride with Fox to learn about about the Neo ecosystem, we look forward to seeing what comes next... We've heard some whispers of new tech coming soon, should be good! Thanks for watching!

[@Stankbait68]

@@jensonusabicycles I saw where SRAM submitted a patent application to move their battery to the housing by the seat tube in May. That should make it easier for them to make it reality. It'd free up 30mm in that change alone...

[@FoCoFlowShow]

About time we got more wireless dropper competition... although I'm not sure the benefits outweigh the price premium... that said, the dentist build will be all the more blingy with KASHIMA!!!!

[@NICADV]

I'd love to try, it makes for a much cleaner setup.

[@jensonusabicycles]

Really does make for a nice cockpit and it works GREAT. Some of us never really realized how useful wireless droppers are until we got a chance to try one... VERY useful on unexpected punchy climbs.

[@MyMTBVideoYouTube]

Nice that fox didn’t rush anything. Need me one of these for my Hardtail. Can’t really run wires through it so wireless dropper seat post would be fire 🔥.

[@jensonusabicycles]

We're very impressed with this new Transfer Neo! It works great and is one of those things that you don't know you're missing until you try it. Great tech from Fox!

[@JorgeDiazfernandez]

Nice Video , In my opinion the position of the battery is a big mistake in some bikes the rear wheel can broke the battery depending how high is the dropper post ,Rockshox set up the battery in the perfect place

[@jensonusabicycles]

Even Rockshox knows that their battery placement wasn't ideal. www.pinkbike.com/news/sram-patents-wireless-seatpost-with-collar-mounted-electronics.html

[@dhrracer]

If they were concerned with tire clearance, why would they have not just put the battery/mechanism to front of the post.

[@jensonusabicycles]

I reached out to Fox for a more in-depth explanation for the placement. Here's their response: "The short answer is, it was oriented that way because of aesthetics. The feeling was people might already be skeptical of the look of the controller and if we oriented it forward there were concerns that could exacerbate the issue. Since tire clearance at the rear is not an issue, that’s what we went with. Same reason Rock Shox put the Reverb battery at the rear, I'd imagine. It looks more sleek (even though in their case it does impact tire clearance)."

[@dhrracer]

@@jensonusabicycles Hopefully some day we will see a programmable motorized up and down post. I believe some have looked into doing. However it is something that would need to be integrated into the frame.

[@Dsmxsteve510]

Has there been any real world testing with battery life?

[@jensonusabicycles]

Fox loaned us these posts during Crankworx so we've been on them for about exactly a month now. The Santa Cruz Megatower V2 in this video is mine, I have only had to charge the post once since this video was shot, and I am currently sitting at a 70% charge.

[@danielpatino81]

What is the insertion depth?

[@jensonusabicycles]

Just went and measured the 31.6/200mm post. 47mm stack height, 7 3/8'' from bottom of the seat post to minimum insertion depth, 12 3/4'' from bottom of seat post to the bottom of the battery housing.

[@danielpatino81]

@@jensonusabicycles thanks for the info, it seems like it is the same as the Transfer post, I was hoping they were coming out with a shorter insertion depth so I can extend the drop in my stumpjumper evo.

[@jensonusabicycles]

@@danielpatino81 No worries, glad we could help!

[@so.calshredder7186]

Thats pretty sick lil out of my price range but sick non the less

[@jensonusabicycles]

Thanks for watching!

[@sebgutkopf]

Maybe a litle bit overcomplicated. Fox recognised that there is a need for a transport and bikepark mode. They solved it with an App and many clicks in the app. Wouldn't be much more simple to put an physical on/off button on the seatpost? It would be a simple press insead of unlocking a phone with face id (ohh I need to take off my FF helmet, and goggles), or fingerprint (gloves), open the app, find the desired mod and activate it. Am I too analogue?

[@jensonusabicycles]

We don't think people would want to reach down to turn their post off entirely then have to manually turn it back on via a button on the post. Bike Park Mode makes it easier to turn "on" and "off" the post quickly without having to manually change anything outside of the setting for the app. The post comes with a "dummy" battery that slides into the battery port so if you wanted to turn it off completely and run it fully dropped the entire time, you can just drop the post, pull the battery, then put the dummy battery in to ride it that way for the day.

[@sebgutkopf]

@@jensonusabicycles You conviced me about the bikepark mode. 😉 But what about transportation. I own a Sram AXS T-type system and my only comolain is that I have to remove the battery and insert the dummy and remove dummy and replace with the battery every time I take my bike with the car and I have to make the same process back home. I see a similar process here. A dismounted battery is a great opportunity to leave it home accidentaly and have an unleasant surprice at the trailcenter. I am wondering whether product developers even ride a bike, or they ride only local starting always from home? These are just my toughts and non representative. Sorry about my niggling!

[@jensonusabicycles]

@@sebgutkopf Transport mode is something that would be nice on the T-type drivetrains... The large majority of us are on them here and agree about the issue with battery drain during transport. The individuals who designed the Fox Transfer Neo absolutely do ride and not just casually either, we've met and ridden with them more than once. We can't think of a single engineer that we've met in the bike space who wasn't also a cyclist themselves. Usually things like this that are missed are usually rooted in other issues that are out of their control.

[@jensonusabicycles]

You are correct about going in and out of the app to change the modes, they turn off after a single use then need to be manually turned back on so the frustration of using a phone with a full frame helmet is warranted.

[@OscarHernandez-xx2je]

FOX didn’t get the memo on pricing. That price is insane.

[@jensonusabicycles]

We understand that they're expensive, but the pricing is no different than other wireless droppers on the market. This pricing isn't anything new in the industry.

[@porroco]

Tailgate mode, remove batt. It should have been better with push of a buttom, not app.

[@fdtank81]

I do not want an app for my seat post

[@jensonusabicycles]

You don't have to use the app, it's simply there to use Bike Park Mode or Transport Mode, keep track of post usage, and request service. If you don't want to use it, you don't have to.

[@andrewsonleitner9882]

Yea 849.00 retail no wonder their bike sales are down 40 percent dig the hole deeper fox

[@jensonusabicycles]

This pricing isn't anything drastically new when it comes to wireless droppers. The Transfer Neo is slightly more expensive than the Reverb AXS when it was first introduced ($800 USD) but, slightly less expensive than what the current iteration of the Reverb AXS currently retails for ($861 USD). Regardless, we understand that this is a very expensive item and wireless droppers aren't for everyone. There are plenty of dropper options on the market that you can choose from to suit your needs. We have been extremely impressed with this Transfer Neo, the new One Up V3 dropper, the Wolf Tooth Resolve, and many many more dropper posts currently available so there are plenty of good options out there that fit your budget. Pick your favorite one, get out on your bike and enjoy the ride.

[@joseulloa8769]

@@jensonusabicycles800 for a dropper that’s why the industry is in the hole along with other companies that are down and bankrupt greed

[@jensonusabicycles]

@@joseulloa8769 We aren't denying that $800+ is a lot of money to spend on a dropper, it is. We're simply saying that this isn't a drastic shift from the "norm" of wireless dropper post costs. The best part about customizing your own bike is that you can choose what you want to spend your hard-earned money on to make it *yours*. Buy what fits your needs, toss it on your bike and go have fun! That's what riding bikes it about.

[@VelodudeShubert]

Love all these product reviews! Great job explaining all the details.

[@christopherenault1486]

​@@joseulloa8769I totally agree with you. That s insane.

[@alisantos5666]

Imo, the battery placement and design is an eye sore

[@jensonusabicycles]

Fair enough! Not everyone digs the aesthetics and we understand it. It's definitely a bit hefty looking around the battery, but it works great so we're fans so far! Thanks for watching!

[@GokkunGuru]

The battery placement and orientation are hard to accept. It just kills the aesthetics of modern MTB.

[@jensonusabicycles]

Understandable to feel that way. Well, buckle up because there is another top brand that is dropping one that is very similar in build. This style of dropper looks to be the future... Luckily, it works GREAT and is very convenient for moving between bikes. The two of us who went up to check these posts out were pleasantly surprised about the performance and convenience of it!

[@GokkunGuru]

@@jensonusabicyclesOoooh Bike Yoke?

[@jensonusabicycles]

@@GokkunGuru No, not Bike Yoke. Who was the first company to come out with an electronic MTB dropper?

[@jensonusabicycles]

@@GokkunGuru to make it even easier, go watch our most recent video.

[@GokkunGuru]

@@jensonusabicyclesWow, when’s the launch? Man I just dropped coin on an Reverb AXS. And is the battery placement horizontal and placed similarly to the Fox?

[@winters3]

100x faster 20x faster just marketing bullshit

[@JohnChristopher-k7u]

What an utter waste of money!

[@jensonusabicycles]

Luckily you aren't forced to buy it and there are many other options on the market that match budgets.

[@JohnChristopher-k7u]

@@jensonusabicycles I’ve installed a dropper post on both of my e-bikes, so I have no problem with the concept so please explain to me the rationale of having a mega fast wireless dropper post for anyone who isn’t a top pro downhiller? And you’re right, I’m not forced to buy anything…….that I neither need or want when I’m perfectly happy with the dropper posts I already have.😎