JENUA/SOLITIS COMBO REALLY NEEDS A NERF?! - Epic Seven

[@BrunoLeonidio]

IMO, I think that rage buff work as a limiter to characters whose got some so powerful skill, that needs something mechanics to balance it. But, when you release a character that enable this condition so simple as a comum skil, such as solits, you let the game completly broken. And your comparision is totaly valid: he's more broken than Hwa.

[@shirakolee]

Yes politis is the problem , ml twyn and the red watter guy were almost useless before her release , now its meta and hard to avoid But politis herself doesnt have a lot of weakness , shes fast , shes invisible , she can be build without eff So theres speed imprint units (they doesnt work agreat against jenua) theres zio + ml roenna (sadly ml yufine seems to be everywhere) theres some units like jack0 that push themself after zio s3 , sadly btw the stats you need and the rng , its not worth it And all of that just to counter 1 unit while theres 3 left Theres characters that counter her and jenua , high er one that prevent dmg for exemple , but its also rng in most case For exemple cerise , her s2 counter jenua , no rng , but sadly either she get outspeed by politis then twyn then jenua then the water guy Or she outspeed cause you speed imprint , but since you need a mage you can only have 2 speed imprint , and usualy the 2 left units you have to fight will kill them And if the team have politis jenua belian ml yufine...well 😢 Light karin got a EE to counter politis , she outspeed her and based on her skills description she should be able to either be build eff and push politis , or build dmg and kill her , sadly its either a 15% rng or not enough stats to one shot her Epic seven new devs are just noobs

[@alexbob7917]

My new favorite team to deal with all of these comps is Zio, Blidica, MLCidd and Nahkwhol. As long as you don’t get 15% Zio procs Blidica and MLCidd guaranteeing you first turn with Nahkwhol sealing any big problem units like Bride Senya you basically just get to sit back and relax while you control the enemy into never getting a turn.

[@elvenmage69]

after resist defence is becoming the most useless stat

[@Joo00393]

Not really, it's only useless againts penetration

[@jeovanniucello1897]

Nah, just buff a lot of character, example, ice dominiel with her reflect and stun, give her more buffs that makes her anti jenua+ml politis like ml romann. There's a lot of characters that needs buff right now and having new specialty changes would be a great addition.

[@KinkedouNow]

so buy more moragora, after an op hero released. Jenua: excellent excellent, just as I planned

[@shirakolee]

Cerise s2 stun , anti buff , strip , ignore er , shes basicaly the perfect jenua counter Shes the one that need a buff , she even have a banner , and theres new rgb comming soon so shes a great bait Yet thoses new devs are just st**id But the problem isnt jenua , its politis , she buffed 3 characters so much that they are now meta , yet before her release 2 of them were useless

[@jeovanniucello1897]

@@shirakolee no need to specify or focus one unit to get buffed, just buff a lot of old characters like heck the roster of their balance patches is way too low and it's been a while we have specialty change. They could make ice sez into an ml ken, counter everytime he and his ally got critical hit, specialty change for taranor royal guard that makes him provoke someone that uses non-attack skill like fire lilias. What's worse is that they have so low units in the balance patch, it's also a hit or miss. Thankfully the latest patch has a lot of great buffs and I hope next time it will still be great.

[@jeovanniucello1897]

@@shirakolee Also it's great that ml politis buffs useless characters, what they need to do next is just buff another useless characters. So many characters yet few is useable. I heard that summoner's war have a great way of buffing old units that's why pvp in that game is pretty much still alive. Really hoping epic seven will learn from it too.

[@shirakolee]

@@jeovanniucello1897 politis buffed character , its nice yes , but shes now a problem that need a solution I have nothing against op units , but if thoses units are only for high speed players...well they need to release counter to it Ml luna will counter her great , but only once politis used her s3 , that mean if ml twyn is slower than ml luna , he will stun everything , that mean if jenua is faster than twyn , not only one member is dead , but twyn will still s3 , and if hes faster , well if luna have imunity then you’re fine , but your whole team get stuned So outside of using unit that push themself like ml roenna and eda , it will not be possible to counter politis But thoses 3 are just used everywhere , a cerise buff would have been great , and karin one should have been better to be able to kill politis But yeah like you said , lot of units need buffs , but thoses new devs doesnt seems to like this kind of things

[@RavenGivens]

This is tough because without Jenua, how in the actual fuck are we meant to deal with Senya and BM Haste

[@KL-ki8db]

Maybe watcher schuri?

[@TMlSenya]

N E R F

[@user-ft1ru8jv1z]

Strazt, Ml sigert and Mlilias looking real good right now.

[@shirakolee]

Theres so many units to deal with thoses 2 that each time i see them both on def i just laugh and pick any of my usual teams to slowly kill them And when i dont laugh , that mean im bored so i just corvus and one shot everything , since ppls seems to remove injury units from their defs If you need god like units to win against 2 tank...theres a big hole on your brains If you use jenua against haste...its even worse , he could counter jenua s1 , triger immortality , then strip it and jenua is dead

[@Zackhit]

The most simple change to make spp not broken is her giving a new buff that increase speed instead of fcking rage. Also sg knew this is going to happen because they released jenua and then spp very close to each other. This was not a coincidence

[@vegiess]

MlL Kawazu is pretty good into him (if they have a AOE opener behind) he can proc jenuas immortality without procing his passive and won't proc ML senyas passive if he's in the back

[@TMlSenya]

Nerf Hwayoung--> Make Lua---->Make Nahkwol---->Make Ml Landy-----> Make Ml Yufine----> Make Jenua and ML Politis----> and seems the latest problem hero is Ml Senya! Well done SG, hopefully Wukong and/or Ml Luna ,whoever it is, isnt broken aswell

[@hanzulco]

But i hope Wu Kong wouldn't be bad... I like his design, i hope he's viable

[@Wandering_Weeb]

​@@hanzulco*whisper* they made him for China server, of course he would be strong

[@imperdus3502]

Is ml senya really that op? She is the next on my build list and dont seem all that impressive

[@Dalkil]

​@@imperdus3502not that op, but very reliable.

[@Wandering_Weeb]

To be fair, old Hwayoung was in the era of simpler units so she was overpowered. But now overpowered units with kits that have more words than my essay are everywhere so I don't see they will nerf them

[@okay987]

Just un nerf all the characters they nerfed at this point 😂😂. A good amount of players have their toxic strong units at this point. All this nerfing to bring out another powered character for what 🤷🏽

[@imperdus3502]

Yea... 32k just with his s3 with superior atk and rage and also IGNORING DEFENCE is kiiiinda op

[@leonw.8538]

Nah he's totally fine. only does 40k dmg on soul burn.

[@emmanuelonojah6940]

Seems pretty balanced to me

[@ShadowHeartForever]

They will give Jenua an EE early next year, trust.

[@nonomori5997]

Dont Forget the goal is to sell heroes. Si of course they counter one another

[@seldrick6717]

I only use speed torrent on him if i need to climb asap on arena xD

[@Ravi-vu7lm]

Nah roll back hwayoung

[@verum117]

Never nerf any hero period they become obsolete when new units come out it's always been the case I don't understand why people still think it doesn't....

[@shirakolee]

Yet based on what most ppls think , elvira needed a nerf And i cant understand why ppls still think it was needed while they say politis + jenua doesnt Well mine is lvl 5 , waiting for a buff

[@KinkedouNow]

why should we have a unit that has: no condition full defence penatration for skill 3, infinte skill 3 to spam after rage buff, no condition health recovery after skill 3, splash damge to the hold team after skill 3, undead buff when hp reach zero, 40% readiness add after HP reach 50% or below self cleanse after skill 2 This is simply a brain damage exclusive unit

[@Dalkil]

Yep. They need a nerf like I need a raise.

[@nenesp]

Great team 👏

[@manoelzootec9764]

Absolutely

[@naraku3232]

Solitis + A.Tywin + Jenua is boring

[@Zackhit]

Don't forget ayufine or belian for more cringe

[@saika1615]

Fuck a nerf, man. Just outspeed LOL

[@shirakolee]

The problem is that , you cant just outspeed , first cause stats are rng (and my speed after 5 years of wyvern is lower than 290) Second cause even if you’re faster , theres only 1 unit able to counter jenua , its cerise , and you still need to soulburn her s2 Such a team cant be allowed , elvira got nerfed cause some ppls were not smart enough to read skills , but in jenua case even if you read skills , theres no clear weakness Sadly the problem isnt jenua , its politis , her release make twyn able to stun/def break without soulburn , the water guy can now reset turn 1 and deal big dmg , jenua can s1s3 every turns Thoses 3 units had weakness that needed the target to do a mistake to be trigered And politis doesnt need a nerf , just a counter

[@xFlow777]

They dont need a nerf they need counter play