2 weeks post Evo Visian ICL surgery in the USA, how I’m feeling, and my side effects.

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

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[@brianmuhlestein2676]

I got ICL surgery a little over a year ago and I had the exact same terrible double vision and halos that you were explaining. I was prescribed the same sort of eye drops and they worked most of the time. But now a year later they don't do anything at all to reduce the size of my pupils. My doctor said the effectiveness can ware off over time as you take the eye drops. I'm at a point now where I can't drive at night anymore and am seriously considering having the ICL lenses removed. And for me the novelty of waking up, or swimming, etc. without worrying about glasses wore off and the complications definitely didn't wear off and do still bother me. I hope things continue well for you though! I just thought I would share my experience.

[@gendarmerielosblancos4395]

Hi, have you removed them already. I'm getting ICL now, it's all paid up and I'm getting nervous and anxious 😟

[@brianmuhlestein2676]

@@gendarmerielosblancos4395 I have a surgery appointment to get them removed on the 4th of November. If you have concerns I would be straightforward with your doc and have them be sure you are a good candidate and that your pupil dilation wont trigger these halo problems.

[@gendarmerielosblancos4395]

@@brianmuhlestein2676 ill definitely email him in the meantime but from what he said, I am a good candidate because my eye dimensions are easy to find the correct lens sizing. I'm definitely anticipating halos, glare or streaking for the first three months. I think if it doesn't improve in 3 months I'll have to consider removing them. My doctor said he removed an ICL lens before because of Intraocular pressure and replaced it with a new lens. He also said the risk of visual disturbances and introcular pressure increases if your astigmatism/myopia is very high so people who need very high prescriptions corrected are more likely to get wrong sized ICL lenses

[@mihausen5226]

@@brianmuhlestein2676 Did you have them now removed? How was the surgery? Do you have now your old vision back?

[@stonks6057]

update?

[@jhutch231]

Thanks Jeremy! 💯 Just got the ICL done

[@EatMyPropwash]

Thanks for being honest in the review. I’ll stick with contacts.

[@TheMagicCrafter]

Thank you for sharing your experience. I'm getting mine done on Halloween and was also told I have pretty large pupils. So hoping I won't have similar issues 😮 Either way, my one eye is -17.5, so I think the potential risk is worth taking given that I already can't do much 😕

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

Wow! -17.5? That's crazy. This will be life changing for you. Any downsides of large pupils are likely to outweigh the downsides of what you have now.

[@syneklynek7483]

Did you do it ?

[@josephnox1759]

Thanks for sharing the side effects they don't talk about 🤙🏼 hope things get better for you

[@mitanshusukhwani3556]

Hello Jeremy. Its amazing to hear about your story with ICL. I got my ICL done on 29/11/22. A few days back and i have double vision in both eyes. In Low and Bright lights, so I wanted to ask whether your spectacles prescription matched with what was written on the Evo ICL box? My cylindrical power matches, but the spherical and axis values are different. Please reply ASAP. I do have my docs appointment for the same in a few days. I really need some logical consolation. Thanks a lot for your highly infprmative video

[@mohammadziyaullah9966]

In which hospital have you done your ICL surgery?

[@nischalk1336]

Any updates? Even i got my toric ICL surgery done, and I'm seeing double vision. I feel my astigmatism has increased due to my lens rotating.

[@manojkumarreddysodem2139]

Could you please let me know is you double vision resolved or you still facing.

[@abdesamad6616]

thank u so much for the update god bless u ❤

[@kevinz5004]

I am seeing subtitles under subtitle, if really dark scene. Like dark movie theater screen. Do you still experience this?

[@maximumlegends7811]

Yea they dialeted my eyes and check my eyes and saw that I have a bit of cataracts, now I can't get evo icl because if I do then my eye will worsen in a year then they'll have to remove the icl and I might have more cataract. I really was looking forward evo icl. I'm having trouble putting eye contacts because I can't see the contacts even up close. I believe if your on TV and screen almost all day every year then your eyes worsens over time.

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

Dang. I'm sorry to hear that. On the upside, the newer technology for cataract surgery is pretty incredible. So when the time comes, you'll have great options, or even better options of the future.

[@MetallicReg]

Nope. Screen time doesn’t have a lasting effect on your eyes. This was already disproven. It is more of an around -1 diopter acclimation that can be mitigated if you train the eyes again by looking at far objects. You aren’t a good candidate for ICL anyway. Not because of the cataract in itself (new ones don’t increase the measurable risk any more). But because you will need a lens exchange anyway soon - especially if you are dealing with nearsightedness anyway, you are better off waiting a bit and setting one eye for far sight and one eye for nearsight.

[@ranchochihuahua]

I'm having this done tomorrow! I'm hoping they drug me really well because I am totally anxious about this.

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

Congrats! It will be easier than you think. Just take it easy and try to spend time in dim environments for the first week to keep your eyes relaxed.

[@muthu8304]

How was your vision now? Having double vision?

[@jessicab4303]

I’m getting this done next week. The clamps that hold your eyes open freak me out. That’s the only part I’m worried about.

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

Congrats! I can't begin to express how scared I was of the procedure going into it. Your eyes will be so numb that you won't even notice that they've clamped your eye open. I don't even remember them opening my eye up, or even thinking about or feeling the need to blink. Everything happens so quickly during setup that visually, it felt like having my eye closed and pointing a bright flashlight into it. The worst part about surgery is the pre surgery numbing eyedrops before you go into the operating room, some of the drops have a burning sensation, but that feeling will go away after about 20-30 seconds. This surgery was VERY easy, and recovery was very simple and stress free. :) You'll be fine!

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

Jessica, how'd your surgery go?

[@jessicab4303]

@@JeremyJensenTheOriginal It went great! I’m glad I finally took the chance to do it even though I was scared. It has been a lot better without worrying about glasses anymore.

[@gendarmerielosblancos4395]

@@jessicab4303 any double vision, glare or halos?

[@jessicab4303]

@@gendarmerielosblancos4395 I see halos sometimes at night. They have improved over time. No double vision or glare.

[@montyjohnn2826]

I hate to say this but your eye doctor should have known that your pupils would dilate pass the point over the implanted lense before doing the surgery! I hope this works out for you nonetheless.

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

My doctor did know, and warned me it was a potential risk. So I knew it was coming, but wasn't prepared for how big of an adjustment it was. I've since gotten used to it and it bothers me much less now.

[@mossponsol]

Usually it corrects after a few months.

[@brunaortegacesario]

Thank you for your video! I had a ICL surgery 3 weeks ago and I am having a lot sand sensation few times a day. Did you have it?

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

Congrats on surgery. Hopefully things are going well for you. I do remember a little bit of irritation for the first little bit after surgery. It felt like an eyelash constantly stuck in my eyes. Though I only recall it being a minor annoyance for the first few days.

[@christianconnor3311]

I had my done last week so you're a week ahead of me. How's it going and have your symptoms settled down?

[@edwardstewart9085]

I had cornea transportation...Wonder if I can be candidate for EVO surgery?

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

My uncle had ICLs put in after his cornea transplant from keratinous, so it shouldn't be a problem as long as your eyes can fit the amount of space required for lenses. So it's probably possible, but only way to know for sure is meet with a doc and get some tests run.

[@Sparky.Sparky.BoomMan]

Reminds me of those permanent eye color changing "contacts"

[@skr1995]

I got my ICL surgery almost 2 weeks ago. When can I start going back to the gym and lifting weights? When I look it up, I see 1 week as a constant answer, but I'm not entirely sure if they mean just super light weight/cardio or actual weights.

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

Congrats on surgery. My doc advised me to not do heavy lifting or vigorous exercise for the first 14 days, and to avoid any strenuous activities, especially contact sports for the first 30 days. I'd call you doc to be sure... but I'd guess you probably could do cardio after the first 14, just don't do any deadlifts or anything.

[@themcdougalbugle]

@@JeremyJensenTheOriginal why would you need to avoid lifting weights? You aren’t getting anything cut.

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

@@themcdougalbugle I don’t recall the exact reason, that’s just what I was advised. I’d guess the concern is eye pressure or strain during the healing process.

[@jdl8iv6jdl8iv6]

Did you wear contacts before the procedure? And if so, did you have to let your retain its original shape prior to the procedure by not wearing contacts for 2 weeks prior to the procedure (as you are required to do for LASIK and PRK)?

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

Hello! Yes, I was advised to stop wearing contacts for 10 days leading up to my surgery. I barely was wearing my contacts anymore anyway, as I’ve been finding them increasingly uncomfortable in recent years. It was a strong motivator to getting the surgery to begin with.

[@jorge6856]

Did this procedure exacerbate dry eye?

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

Not at all for me. I had to use artificial tears quite a bit for the first month. But once my eyes healed they feel identical to pre-surgery.

[@jorge6856]

@@JeremyJensenTheOriginal some people say those eyedrops that make your pupils little increase retinal detachment...so using the rest of your life might be dangerous. Have you got any information about this?

[@jorge6856]

Did your Doctor warm u about your pupils size so that you were informed about these size effects?

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

@@jorge6856 I’ll need to post an updated video soon. But my doctor actually had me stop the eyedrops. He wants me to give my brain time to adjust and filter out some of the noise. He’ll let me continue using them if I want, but advised me to try getting used to the side effects of the icl first. Glare is still there so far, but it’s bothering me less and less… so hopefully in a month or two it’ll be improved. I’m now only using the eyedrops in situations where I need perfect night vision. Such as long night drives through dark areas outside of the city.

[@jorge6856]

@@JeremyJensenTheOriginal before ICL implantation they must check your pupils size. Did they tell you about this? They usually check your pupils size.

[@tamadventures1969]

How much was the surgery?

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

I was told the normal pricing is around $9000 all in, I paid $7000 total as I was the first person in my state to get it after FDA approval so they gave me a discount if I agreed to be in any marketing material. I've heard of people paying anywhere from $3500-6000 per eye depending on their location and what options are available to them.

[@maximumlegends7811]

Evo plus toric is evo plus icl?

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

I believe Evo+ Toric would be Evo+ lenses for people with astigmatism. Evo+ is just Evo for people with larger pupils.

[@Donutshop2365]

How much did you pay for the surgery?

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

$7000

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

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[@humancenteredagility]

I'm experiencing the glared/double vision in my left eye only and it is frustrating. I went back to see the surgeon yesterday and the position of the lens had shifted a bit and he believed that this was the cause of my issues so he did a slight adjustment to reposition the lens. However, I am still experiencing the same issues as you. :-(

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

Oh wow! That sounds unpleasant. Glad you were able to get yours adjusted without any issue. As far as glare goes, I'm thinking I'll probably post an update video, my surgery was 3 months ago and I have new thoughts on my experience. Here's what I can say on my own experience -- the glare is still there for low light. However last night I had a very interesting moment that gives me optimism. Not sure how to best put it into words, but basically my glare was there like normal, but I only noticed it after thinking about it -- whereas before, my glare made me feel like I had gunk in my eye that I needed to clean out. I think my brain is starting to ignore it -- it's still there, but it only crosses my mind if I actually think about it. If I look back at each month of progress it gives me hope that things truly are improving!

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

I posted an update video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/foOreWitgdKil68

[@gendarmerielosblancos4395]

@@JeremyJensenTheOriginal did you doctor tell you to expect your vision to have halos/glares/double vision etc. Mt doctor only focused on the adverse effects like Intraocular pressure/glaucoma/early cataracts etc

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

@@gendarmerielosblancos4395 they told me it would be a risk, and it's a common side effect. Though I don't think they properly prepared me for how big of an adjustment it would be. The other concerns were also mentioned, so definitely risks to take seriously.

[@nischalk1336]

Any updates britt? Even im facing double vision and i fear I got back astigmatism due to my lens rotating

[@lionsnetonu]

Those eye drops may have a bad effect on your eyes of taken long term.

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

I’m no longer on them. I posted a follow up video to this one, it can be found on my channel.

[@deepakostwal2905]

How are you saurav?

[@exexcalibur7140]

ur eyes looks so tired man, dose it feeling heavy to watch with eyes

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

Oh yeah! My eyes were super tired for about a week. All is well now. My surgery was over a year and a half ago, and things are great.

[@larryb883]

Done watching this. Came for icl review. Talk about everything except what I want to hear. Even at 1.75 speed. Gfy

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

lol, what? If you want a review of ICL, a 2 week post surgery update isn't a video you should be watching. My video never claimed to be a review. My surgery was two years ago, I am happy with the results, but my vision still has glare.

[@officience1]

Is it still as bright as before bro?

[@ihateu21156782alex]

Can you get those eye drops over the counter or do you have to have them prescribed? When I google them it brings up lumify drops but I don’t know if those are the same

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

Prescription only in the USA. Lumify does have a similar effect on pupil size from my understanding, but I haven't tried it. I've gotten used to the glare in my eyes, so I no longer use eyedrops. The glare is still there, it just doesn't bother me anymore.

[@thakur8268]

Hello,Jeremy jensen As you told that you are having problem of double vision ghost vision in dark light same problem I am also getting. I had surgery 3 weeks ago. Tell me whether your problem is fixed now or not?Or the Doctor told you to change the lens size with bigger lens evo plus is it to fix this problem? Please tell that it has been 3 weeks for me to have surgery but it is not cured yet? can u please send me your email i want to talk with you about my problem it's similar to your? please reply am waiting for your reply,😔

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

Hello. I'm not a doctor, so I'm really not who you should be talking to about your concerns, I'm happy to talk shared experiences in the comments of this video. My glare seems to be improving with time -- my doctor said my brain should continue to adjust to it, and filter out the glare and the little bit of double vision. I already have the maximum size evo lens, so there is no larger option. The choice I was given is to learn to adapt to the lenses, or get them removed. The Brimonidine eyedrops are helping keep my pupils smaller, but they aren't a perfect solution. Overall, my satisfaction of these lenses are very high, and knowing what I know now, I'd still tell my past self that the surgery was a good decision. Hopefully both of us will continue to see our vision improve and the glare issues continue to decrease. From what I was reading on the FDA study, it sounds like it can take 2 months for your brain to fully adapt to the lenses, so it's possible things could improve still.

[@jonam464]

@@JeremyJensenTheOriginal recommend to see the youtube ICL experience video of Melina Tsapos, she had more or less comparable issue and took her - I believe - up to 6 months for her brain to adjust, so don't give up to soon! An update video would be very much appreciated, thanks and good luck!

[@JeremyJensenTheOriginal]

@@jonam464 ooh, I’ll check out her video. Thanks for the heads use. Things are slowly feeling like they’re heading in the right direction. I am seeing some signs of my brain adapting, but do it’s still a bit distracting at times. Comforting to hear others got to a better place eventually.

[@deepakostwal2905]

Thakur how are you now?

[@nischalk1336]

Hey thakur, any updates?