Should govt cut sickness benefits? Feat. Jemma Forte & Lin Mei | Jeremy Vine

[@Luxkystrike]

If mental health services were available then the amount of sickness would be halved !

[@KayHutchinson-x1i]

If people didn’t regard life issues as mental health because it isn’t it the same stress in life we all live with

[@kevinfleming4906]

Most depressives are not helped by going to work. In fact it might make them suicidal.

[@pouncy452]

I have lost 4 friends last year as a result of losing pip how many people have to die before the government stops taking away pip from those disabled people who need many without it can not do basic things

[@PLl-jr8xi]

That's really sad . The problem is I know about 10 people getting pip who shouldn't be getting it.. they're the ones making actually disabled people suffer.

[@jamesbirch130]

Lol let's punish the poor to look after the rich..

[@Emelia-o5b]

The issue that both Labour and Tories got and are getting wrong is the issue in benefits is fraud. Its not acted on because they don't have the investigative teams to do so. Which leads to the poorest being hammered for nothing.

[@keirmitchell5560]

great idea. what do the poor contribute

[@Emelia-o5b]

​@@keirmitchell5560 which poor? Over 40% of UC claimants are in full time work. So are you talking about the working poor or the disabled poor?

[@binagarten4667]

@@Emelia-o5b Try being poor, and disabled, There are over 10,000 been on benefits who are investigated. I personally reported 300 Aussies and Kiwis whocame here overstayed there stay, worked illegally often for the BBC, and Councils although they came on a casual work permits only, but worked in professional career developments. 30 of the people I reported work relatives. I informed the Home Office and not one was investigated. I later went to NZ and was intergigated by NZ immigration if I came to work? I said we in England let your people come and who dont pay VAT, work and at that time we had unemployment of over 3 million and the population of NZ was 3.5 million. So we had nearly the whole of the population the NI of NZ unemployed but allowed 3 million New Zealanders. The officer at NZ immigration said to me your Govt is stupid. That I have to conqure with. The Aussies and Kiws all did not pay the income tax, no VAT, they paid no Council tax, used the NHS for prohibatively expensive treament. But because we the Englaish think Aussies and Kiwis are all illegitmate white children we allow this. Let me tell you that 90% were Asian as they have become the populattion growth which has seen NZ go from 3.5million to 5.5 million. I noted that a Asian girl with a Aussie or Kiwi accent and the white men were all over them like a cheap suit!

[@PLl-jr8xi]

There's way too many people in this country with their hands out. If rather they do crime than be beggers.

[@sardav160479]

Nothing gets said about the benefits that people are entitled to but don't claim

[@sardav160479]

Whats an over spend is spending on the rich mps expenses and not bringing in a wealth tax

[@WildBill-py6vn]

No it should cut immigrants claiming for 5 wives and not entitled to a penny

[@Emelia-o5b]

Immigrants outside of the EU are rarely permitted to recourse of public funds.

[@WildBill-py6vn]

We are paying benefits everywhere and foreign aid

[@Emelia-o5b]

​@WildBill-py6vndo you know what public recourse is?

[@michelleackers3438]

I seen on Google news that the gonvment spend on people comeing on boat's about 3,000 a day just on clothes and shoes not included phones or anything eals

[@jamesbirch130]

@WildBill-py6vn and that still won't be a drop in the ocean compared to those that hide their wealth. But yeah I guess you're right..

[@Tom_murray89]

So they want to punish disabled people like myself for being disabled

[@Emelia-o5b]

It depends I think. Yesterday the tory leader was complaining there were more entitlements. I think they're trying tread that fine line of providing for those that need it and recognising those swinging the lead. I hope they don't go down the tory route. I've seen first hand what Austerity cuts do to the poorest.

[@keirmitchell5560]

depends what you class is disabled. You get other peoples money so it should air tight for what it is used for.

[@Emelia-o5b]

​@@keirmitchell5560what on earth does that mean? You know sickness and disability benefits are two different things right? The latter one is not an unemployment benefit.

[@Paul-y7k]

@keirmitchell5560 God I hope that you don't get your money cut good luck and God bless 🙏 keep warm please stay safe everyone

[@jackhewitt600]

No they want to punish people who think they have the right to sit at home and claim off the state.

[@Rascal2006]

Bravo Gemma Forte!! Not just for what she said, but for having the patience of a saint with Jeremy & Lin over & over again saying "what about the billionaires" etc

[@alexdavies7394]

That Lin woman hasn't a clue, about mental health problems and how they can impact the people concerned. She ought to spend some time in the real world...On second thoughts, Lin couldn't cope with it.

[@PLl-jr8xi]

I went through really bad mental health . But the reality is that people really need to get over it them selves. I know I'm sounding like someone who gives up smoking then expects everyone to do it. But when you have mental health problems.. it usually means you have too much time on your hands to think and make up problems

[@alexdavies7394]

@PLl-jr8xi - I understand what you say. Although, someone close to me couldn't return to work for several weeks, following his breakdown.

[@lewishowell307]

I can never understand people like Lin who have to get up and go to work everyday like the rest of us defending and bootlicking billionaires

[@Emelia-o5b]

They're under the delusion that if they ever passed them on the street the billionaires wouldn't cross over.

[@kinggeoffrey3801]

Well, if the millionaires and billionaires leave, that means no jobs. Like it or not, we need them for the economy.

[@Sean-xy4hk]

@@lewishowell307 it’s because she’s paid a lot of money to spout this nonsense

[@Emelia-o5b]

Christ you haven't done enough benefits bashing lately?

[@Rascal2006]

This! Fully agree😊

[@Emelia-o5b]

​@@Rascal2006 it's only been a week since he misquoted UC as a 'generalised unemployment benefit'.

[@erictaylor2831]

@@Emelia-o5b it's the same subject day after day and the show that follows is the same.Just as most of the the phone callers are the same 😅😅

[@olixz]

Mental health is no joke. I think they could chnage the system so peope dont get stuck on it.

[@SFRZRD]

I’m British living in South America and please, all of you take it from somebody on the outside - it’s crap like this show and that pathetic excuse of a man which works to keep you mentally down, unhappy. Don’t let your misery be his salary / reason for smiling.

[@Glenn83100]

Tax more!!!! Then you run out over people's money.

[@annofcleavers5791]

So the pensioners get their winter fuel allowance cut and now they are coming for the sick and disabled whilst spending £3,000 per day on illegal immigrants for clothes and phones,not to mention the cost of staying in nice warm hotel room and eating three square meals a day.

[@Emelia-o5b]

Pensioners did not get their WFA cut. The poorest pensioners were still eligible for WFA.

[@andrewlilley3660]

@@Emelia-o5b No they were not, the only pensioners that still get the WFA are the ones on pension credit, which is extremely difficult to claim and millions don't or can't claim. The new state pension automatically disqualifies anyone from claiming pension credit!

[@carolynesimpson6070]

I know someone who is seeing a Mental Health Doctor at the moment. She told him most companies are businesses and don’t much care about their staff. All they want is more work out of the workers and cutting corners. A lot of verbal abuse going on by their line managers. People are just really stressed out by the way they are being treated.

[@ruthhadfield9726]

the rich " my friends" says it all really 😂😂😂

[@Mark-Haddow]

Remember, dear reader, shows such as this are meant to upset you and excuse the opinion of the hate mongering minority.

[@SFRZRD]

@Mark-Haddow Sadly it seems to fall on deaf ears Mark…. I don’t live in the country anymore but it’s infuriating watching people back home fall for it

[@Gazza-p3h]

What about people that just don’t want work but could, surely they should be the first benefits to be cut!

[@KimWilliamsmixupchannel]

I like this Jemma

[@joekerr5960]

Just give all the money to the rich as they need it more than us the poor rich souls.Oh wait, they don't have souls

[@Emelia-o5b]

Exactly. 'Shall we ask why that bra lady hasn't paid back her dodgy ppe money back yet? No let's talk about how the sickest people aren't expected to job search'. 🫤

[@KayHutchinson-x1i]

Just stop pip at 66 after all you can’t claim it after you are 66 . That ageist

[@michaelodowd4807]

When you reach retirement age you can apply for Attendance Allowance which is basically equivalent to PIP

[@dannybrown3410]

I'm going to have to work ill I've worked all my life and had a heart attack last year I just got pip because I can't go without pine in my chest I'm on 22 tables a day this will kill me

[@JamesCoull-d3r]

The first caller proves it all really. Why should workers pay for people like that

[@ronvalente65]

The Government did say they would look at it, not stop everyones benifits! do they never listen?

[@Emelia-o5b]

00:50: So the complaint is that the most vulnerable aren't given the added stress of sanctions if they don't meet the seeking work quotas? Makes sense. 🙄

[@paulpratt1227]

My worry is the genuine disabled will be penalised again.

[@Emelia-o5b]

Yes that's everyone else's too. Hopefully they won't be as rotten as the tories were over that but only time will tell.

[@adrianmist6681]

This is irresponsible fearmongering, the government has not said they are cutting benefits!

[@doreenhollywood7459]

Surely these fools need to get a grip with real life. Labour is a disgrace.

[@Emelia-o5b]

Which fools?

[@alma2229]

Because nothing is working well for the Labour party, there digging hard to find money anywhere, but as always, the vunerable people get penalized, if the boats with illegal immigrants were turned back, Labour would save millions of pounds, but that's too easy for them, they have to annoy and make lives difficult for the working people.

[@David-j9h9g]

Jeeeeeeeeeez...my job in mental health ruined my own.....

[@Emelia-o5b]

I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you're having better days now.

[@booglewho86]

Well said Deirdre 👌

[@Sean-xy4hk]

Such disgraceful conversations on this show. Let’s lock Jeremy Vine up for poisoning the public conversation so much.

[@Emelia-o5b]

I don't think he needs locking up. He does need to be corrected though. That false claim about UC being a generalised unemployment benefit was just ridiculous.

[@erictaylor2831]

@@Emelia-o5b No I like the locking up idea😅

[@pouncy452]

Doctors just keep giving pills but not fixing or helping to solve the main problems that many things can be fix but just doctors do not bother or you have massive years of weighting times by that time you end up with many more problems and conditions that as weighting so long for treatments is pass the point it is in untreatable

[@Lewis-j4x]

4:45 So 10 thousand millionaires left last year and that lady said "so what its pathetic its like 0.1 percent of them we have millions and millions of millionaires" I'm sure we don't have millions and millions of millionaires, what is she talking about ?

[@erictaylor2831]

Guy has a bad hernia COPD and Vine thinks he should be at work 😂

[@andrewstokes4026]

should be, he admitted he can work but said he would get "angry" what a pillock

[@Paul-y7k]

Im on universal credit why did i get a cold weather payment of£25 and pensioner's are getting nothing WHY,i needed it but never asked and i feel really guilty £25 could last day's on that food or heating discussed they should be ashamed 🤔 😮😮😮😮😢😢😢😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤thanks Paul hi from the Isle of man, we don't have that problem here look after the older generation we might not be here if it wasn't for them, we forget,

[@Paul-y7k]

Cheers 🍻 4 your reply Paul 👍 👏

[@chriswilliams8121]

Dave is an absolute tool saying sickness benefit payments are too much i really hope he loses his money there's lots of people who need the money to pay for lots of things and actually are in debt after the month infact a disability survey and consult was done a while ago it was said to be equal to non disabled people on quality of life pip would need to be over £1000 per every 4 weeks not the max £737 every 4 weeks as is

[@Emelia-o5b]

'I have spare cash at the end of each month' is either a total lie or he's not being honest about his financial circumstances and has savings he's not declared.

[@andrewlilley3660]

Thye are too much, far too much.

[@michelleackers3438]

You know what sick these people think thay know better

[@Emelia-o5b]

What it tells me is that they've never had to suffer the indignity of signing on. I've been in both financial positions and much prefer being financially stable in work! So I'm not suprised they don't know how much harder it is to claim disability and sickness benefits.

[@Incognito-turnip]

Love jemma forte. Lin mei silly dummy 🤪

[@michaelodowd4807]

I have to say that guy who would jump over the counter to throttle a customer if he annoyed him cracked me up.

[@jamesbirch130]

Love the arguments .. why should those that have pay anything more.

[@dragonrider116old4]

I had bad depression and refused pip my goal was to get support and get back to work , pip would of not give me the drive to help myself . Now I'm in full time work

[@Johnnyhardcore4ever]

Some jobs can make you more depressed

[@Sukh-f6l]

Give big business government support and tax cuts while removing support for the most vulnerable people What is going on

[@dragonrider116old4]

There are people who are generally unwell but some know how to blag it

[@briankerrison8504]

If you want a nice society with good infrastructure & healthcare..then you have to pay for it.. we create our environments.. don’t pay & the vision gets worse 🤔

[@maviskeegan7618]

I have said it over and over .You cannot make the poor rich by making the rich poor .

[@antony9305]

Regarding the toy gun ban , its and interesting one, in one hand it's a toy , on the other its basically saying its OK to pretend to kill. The woman in black made some very good points. No one mentioned 3d printed ghost gun 🤔. They can be colourful.

[@clivebrown-xm4qs]

They have ro be in work before you can claim sick pay unemployment sick pay Unemployment is high and with this labour party can only get worse

[@JamesMead-w6d]

Jemma has a good point, what happened to the Michele mone scandal? Brushed under the carpet almost definitely…. Let’s kick downward instead.

[@mudassarmahmood6679]

Why should we work so hard to become wealthy and then pay so much tax? I to am going to Dubai and taking my wealth with me

[@Emelia-o5b]

The other shareholder for 3forms missus is already doing that......

[@robertvonkaphengst796]

I’m on dialysis at the moment, I’m working

[@Dawson1994]

Yet mp still get expensive, joke

[@binagarten4667]

Imagine if you had all male panel the upraor it would cause, and espeically if one is not black? two female presenters is disatrous it is like a cat fight, Vine Tim nice but dim is a totally ineffective at controlling them. You can see why he did not get picked for BBC Question Time. Total dimwit! In all of his shows you have to have a black person or part therof. He also has a plethoria of Muslim women, like Neelafah, Yasmin Alibhia Brown Ash Sarkar and it goes on. He never has a Hindu Male on the show. Even on the BBC Radio 2 Istaq Hussain always has his say, but the BBC actively screen Hindu or Sikh Males on his show, or who ever screens the callers. But funny that Channel 5 and BBC have the same laws and all presenters, Dan Snow, Vine, Sian something all end up on Ch5. It seems this is just fedouciary co of the BBC! VIne famously went on to say in a call he had never seen anyone spit on football! Even my 90 year old mother has commented on this!

[@kishennandha9127]

Woman in white is a ma ron

[@pdempseyful]

*Moron

[@Emelia-o5b]

She sounded sensible to me.

[@MeldersJnr]

OFFS!... both Purkiss and Forte in one week. Can't watch .. BTW, did Forte add, once more, that she didn't vote for Labour - she voted tactically ?? Just curious.

[@mattttt8226]

Jemma has the economics understand of an 8 year old. If you overtax rich people - the most financially mobile people in the country - you get less back. They simply move overseas and then you 99% of £0. She’s beyond useless 😂

[@adeyemi79]

The government should definitely cut the benefits, their are too many people claiming it and their is nothing wrong with them

[@andrewlilley3660]

Totally agree.

[@jacksoncrate]

Instant stop to all benefits

[@Emelia-o5b]

The tories already tried that once. Look up callums list.

[@markroberts7093]

@jacksoncrate Oxygen thief

[@jacksoncrate]

@markroberts7093 try working give that a go

[@markroberts7093]

@ As of midnight i am officially retired. 😎

[@beckbussell1]

With Lin 100%

[@andrewstokes4026]

Im an Alcoholic, i cant work! wtf stop all this benefits its a disgrace

[@Emelia-o5b]

Andrew it's 2pm on a working weekday. Why aren't *you* at work right now? 🧐

[@allancrotch2953]

Ai 68 I am glad Labour have a chance to show what they can do , Ha Ha

[@maviskeegan7618]

I have said it over and over .You cannot make the poor rich by making the rich poor .