Jerry Garcia's crazy briefcase full of drugs and more! With B. Getz!

Me and B get down and dirty on Jerry, drugs, The Dead, weed and much more in this super fun exploration of one of our heroes, Jerry Garcia! Plus the artisanal nature of bud!
#gratefuldead #head #drugs #addiction #weed #bud #pot

[@ClueSign]

Sentimental? Don't make me laugh. He was in GGP because he thought he could get very high without anyone seeing him. He had little appetite to be contemplating anything. He most likely thought "I''ll stop off here on my way to Oakland." Get off the GGB, drive into the park at 10th and Fulton, smoke up your stash, before getting back onto Oak St and connect to 80 to get over the Bay Bridge. Anyone familiar with the terrain and with heroin thinking could see this. He was too high to even consider that he would get caught, which is junkie thinking.

[@connorferrand527]

Garcia part starts around 15:00

[@samiam7342]

Thank you very much!!!!!!!!

[@RTT_777]

Bless you🙏

[@tomkiefaber4297]

I'm 70 and my early Dead shows were with the wall of sound. Looking back I'd like to add in some still potent memories and observations that seem to have drained out of so much of this history of the band over time. The Grateful Dead in that era were goddamn scary! There were sections of those concerts that would wilt fresh daisies in a vase, turn milk into cheese...seriously. Terrifying at times. I'd take people and some were actually disturbed over some of what they experienced. They got over it of course but I don't hear or read these geezer-coot memories like mine. It's somehow morphed into la de da dayglow, barefoot dancing hippy chick focus, the tye dye-centric, bliss ninny stuff. I saw that later infused through the decades, but let's not short change the earlier days. One show the group I was with, we group-saw and particularly FELT the seven headed monster take hold of us with what felt like claws?. Those GD 'moments' are legendary but there are decidedly different versions, back then anyway. The most memorable for me, , I recall differently back then. I think maybe it was stuff from Anthem of the Sun? and a few other tunes and those "moments" I recall as often shocking drops not peaks or lifts, it triggered that tower of terror feeling , that moment, falling falling even fight or flight or shaking, looking at each other and actual, viscerally alarmed faces. Bliss later on in the show returned for most anyway. A few we lost to disco or whatever back then weren't bored by their Dead show it was too scary for some of em. So be it. "Roll away the morning dew and sweet the winds shall blow" Trad. Sea shanty (Bob Hunter quoted it somewhere along the line). Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah ( dead fan demos require both - all in fun!) And lemme add apart from all the characterizations i've made reminiscing. The dead and their people were never the seven headed monster itself, they just mystically conjured it into being here and there in those days, and above all then and now, there's really still one main question asked: Are You Kind? You betcha. And you?

[@mikec6733]

One time at a Dead show, I saw the band morph into a giant bare foot, the size of the stage, happily tapping along to the music

[@218maryland]

Interesting, this is the first time I’ve read a comment about this side of the dead. My parents are from nyc and caught nearly all of the filmore east shows. I love the GD and ask him what those primal GD shows were like. What sticks out to me the most about his memories are how scary it would get… so many people were dosed in that room at the same time getting on each other’s wavelengths… during quiet hellish parts he said people would SCREAM. Not a cheer, but they were scared as hell and letting out a scream. People would scream intermittently throughout the theater. Hearing those shrieks and screams while dosed and deep into a hellish primal GD jam…. Not the GD experience that is portrayed anywhere it seems like

[@treebeard8475]

I can see this being the case especially if you never seen the group before. Part of the mystique of it though for me is when it gets confusing and quiet in a jam everyone around is on the edge of their seat “give it to us Jerry let the next tune drop” and it drops and everyone goes wild because they came out the other side of a jam and now recognize the tune :)

[@matthewmaurysmith2486]

I didn't see them til 1990 but I can vouch for the fact the sometimes esp during drums through "space" it would disassemble you down into the granules of your very existence where life and death itself pulsed and breathed in front of you and you faced your own existence in a shocking way. A couple of times, Jerry would play something during space where I would just crack up laughing... I think that really happened once, RFK 93 I think

[@ofangelsflipz]

Anthem really blew me away...

[@D-Fens_1632]

Drugs didn't kill Jerry Garcia. Sugar, cigarettes, obesity, and inactivity did. Drugs didn't help though.

[@suzanneburkhart2368]

Also untreated diabetes...

[@ryansohlich3589]

Drugs can assist in a person's carelessness

[@josevillarreal9920]

The detox off of opiates is harsher as time goes on.

[@Think_Up]

Food is among the most common addictions. Too many are dying of beaties.

[@LudiCrust.]

@20:32 it wasn’t just Garcia’s fault. The entire band & crew was strung out on drugs and/or alcohol in the early 80s. They were botching every aspect of their concert including the PA. For the first half of the first set they spent a lot of the time trying to get the sound right. During the entire year of 1984 leading up to the intervention Jerry gained about 100lbs, stopped grooming & even bathing, & looked very ill (extremely pale & sweaty, long sick/thinner hair, extremely dirty clothes at least 2 sizes too small etc). He didn’t just get to where he’d only shower once a week he was going months. There are pictures & probably videos from this time period where most of his hand is stained from smoking cigarettes. I’ve had times in my life where I was dodging the soap a lil & was smoking at the time & my hands never got stained beyond the two fingers used to hold the cigarette. For basically his entire hand to be stained he’d have had to have gone months without bathing. This was when he started forgetting several lines in every song & would literally nod off standing up against his microphone. Edit: after Brent died in 1990 Garcia wanted out and the band & GD Inc. basically emotionally blackmailed him into continuing on with the band because they needed the income to maintain their lifestyles. You can tell by listening to recordings of JGB compared to the Dead. He’s always high out of his gourd and barely able to play during Dead shows while much more lively & into it with JGB. The whole thing is very sad & the people around him should be ashamed of themselves including his ex wife. Edit2: the Dead resented JGB because they thought it was taking money out of their pockets. I know a lot about it because my mom was in their inner circle until 1980 to raise a family & got back into contact with them in 1989 & would spend time with the band whenever they were in the Midwest.

[@josevillarreal9920]

U hit it on the head but his hand was heavy in his vice because he created the situation with several women living on several expensive properties with all kinds of kids and a expensive lifestyle. As much as all the Dead family's careers were on the line, he had a huge overhead he accumulated. It's also known that he passed cash broke because the Dead was always riding on what they sold down the line and haven't collected on till the play these shows. He'd still be around if he didn't feel the pressure not to be associated with using opiates. What's he doing in a non-medical detox after all his medical conditions?!?! Sad but true, regardless he left us w/ lots of amazing work and beauty to experience.

[@MRAIClassroom]

Man very interesting and sad. I could see it though… friends and hang arounds want what’s best for them

[@gobnagob9729]

People that chase the dragon a lot get tell-tale stained fingers. It's like track marks...

[@MrJDCohen]

You are so right. Jerry Garcia was one of the greatest singers of all time. His phrasing and his emotion are incredible. I always thought I got hooked on the Dead because of Jerry's guitar playing but late in life I realized it was Jerry's vocals that really got me. Love your show, it's beautiful in its raw, honesty, and compassion. Thank you 🙏

[@chrisdher65]

I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to too.

[@joshlongmusic]

Rip Mitch one of the best ever!

[@bellautopia818]

I forgot to remember 🩺

[@stevemiller9837]

Anybody seen my car?

[@RUNNOFT71]

You're a douche.

[@bellautopia818]

@@stevemiller9837 what?.. huh?

[@jamminjohnyevo]

I would really like to see these two fellers discuss the Brent Mydland years and his downfall

[@DavidAcevedoAlvaro]

Brent´s downfall was there since the beginning, theres anye interview from 82 where he says his greatest wish was to get clean and stay off of drugs

[@markcraven3842]

Cheeseburgers and 🚬 killed Jerry. His music will live on forever. No one better...

[@ryanweatherman-holt4805]

Thanks for speaking about recovery. I've always felt weird/guilty for smoking pot while in recovery from alcohol. I feel better knowing you guys are out there. 11 years, btw. ✌

[@MrHAPPYHAWAIIAN]

How about coming clean with your sponsor or someone u trust? If u want to take recovery into fourth dimension, come off weed.😅

[@bellautopia818]

Hey with medicinal I don't care what anybody says if you can chill with just that and handle your s***.. by all means hell yeah... Now if one thing leads to another I don't have to reach their own I'm not going to ever try to tell anybody what to do I'm saying and my humble opinion is I just want anything to be medicinal depending on how we utilize it and if we can stick to that within our body mind heart soul .. ya know,? 🧸🩺

[@ryanweatherman-holt4805]

I use it for diabetic neuropathy. I've been insulin dependent since childhood. I'm off cymbalta, neurontin, and lyrica. The side-effects were terrible for me.

[@robertstroud7561]

17 here

[@johnnynbk]

smoking weed is not drinking, its not even close.

[@seanhennessey9869]

Garcia got popped in Golden Gate park with the briefcase. My friend had gifted him that car a few months earlier , go figure. We used to have some serious persiflage as to the contents, lol...some blow, some Persian, a few packs of Camels; some herb and accouterments, some guitar picks and strings, a notebook, maybe a black tee shirt

[@finnmcginn9931]

Robert Hunter has talked about there also being song lyrics in there thay he wished he could get back.

[@dropfishboogie3869]

Joe Russo's Almost Dead is the greatest homage to the Dead right now.

[@SuperStrik9]

Great interview. I definitely have to check out the article. I'm a huge fan of Jerry and The Grateful Dead. Garcia didn't take very good care of himself unfortunately. It's miraculous that he survived the diabetic coma he went into in July '86. I highly recommend the book Dark Star An Oral Biography of Jerry Garcia by Robert Greenfield to any fans of Jerry and The Dead. I think it gives the most accurate depiction of Jerry of any book about him that I've read.

[@treebeard8475]

I’ll have to buy that book thanks! Sadly the life of a Warf Rat is often cut short :(

[@marcbernicker206]

I love the jerry opiated years. He still played incredibly well imo. OF course I was opiated too with the occasional tripping augmented with weed and some cold ones

[@yankees29]

Well he was also smoking freebase cocaine for many years. 😂

[@yankees29]

@@nealcassady-yn3bh of course. I’m about to smoke some in a little bit….

[@cosmonaut9942]

I'm old and have a lot of shows under my belt. I first saw the Dead in 1969 and saw the last show at Shoreline in June '95. The only post-Jerry band that I liked was Phil and Friends with Steve Kimock on guitar. Kimock then had a falling out with Lesh's wife (surprise, surprise) so he no longer plays on Phil related projects. Kimock was penciled in to play Jerry's parts in Dead & Company and he moved from Pennsylvania back to Sebastopol for that reason. Weir and the rest of the band changed up and hired Mayer instead. Good business move. Lousy friendship move. I have a lot of stories about backstage and running into Jerry around town. Still on the bus after all of these years and miss Jerry every day.

[@peterharmon7852]

Definitely miss Jerry and I never had the opportunity to meet him.. the way the band has conducted themselves since jerry passed is so sad, I lost a lot of respect. The Grateful Dead are definitely Jerry and Pig.

[@justinjacob508]

❤️⚡️💙

[@sgg6927]

Wow was not aware they were looking at Kimock for Dead & Co. Saw Kimock play with them in some formation I believe early 2000's with Alphonso Johnson on Bass. Kind of think they made the right choice with Dead & Co I had heard Phil's wife could be kind of difficult

[@bgreen3670]

It was a combo between Jill and the fact that he got into a spat with Dylan over his opiate usage on tour in late 99, which is why him and Parish bailed in the middle of that Mid-West East-Coast Phil and Friends and Bob Dylan tour in October 99. He was treated as a side man rather than an essential part of the band. Steve had the same issue with the SKB and Bobby Vega which is why you don't see those two play with each other anymore. Music business is a business and that's what ruins it for some.

[@geoffreemccollum2616]

Who’s opiate usage are you referring to?? Dylan or Kimock?? I hit that whole tour with Dylan. I was still stuck on the bus from the end of Jerry’s Grateful Dead days. Jerry is what got me there but the lifestyle of traveling making clothes and jewelry selling in different parking lots every other day was a big part of the lifestyle that I love Still to this day

[@TheNaturalust]

I hung with Jerry for weeks in the summer of 1989 in Hawaii. We smoked some weed but he was off pills and powders. Relatively healthy. We kept in touch and his loss hurt me bad. One day I might tell some stories, You have quite a bit wrong about him. He hated going to the City to score and got a lot each time he did, We all got wasted on the way to rehab, it's a tradition. You are right about the tripping. In his words,,,(nasally) "I can't do that brain douch anymore"....with a beautiful laugh and smile.

[@george.s.8491]

Thank you for setting thing’s straight, I always wondered how he would get his stuff from state to state. I figured he had a definite hook up in every state/city, i haven’t had a chance to listen to this whole show yet.

[@TheNaturalust]

@@george.s.8491 he had a large crew of innocent looking people to carry whatever he wanted. His first words to me were " Hi Im Jerry, got any weed? I did. Lol

[@jwconstruction9065]

Some of The Deads best years around 89 Thanks for sharring

[@billphipps453]

best years ?!

[@TheNaturalust]

@@jwconstruction9065 They told me that they were making money above just supporting their crew for the first time in their lives. Enough to bring their families on vacation. I figured it was because that video and song from In The Dark was becoming so popular. We did a lot of scuba diving but one of my best memories was playing paint ball in the Hawaiian jungle and Jerry nailing me and yelling in his nasally voice..."die motherfucker!" For some reason I couldn't stop laughing after hearing that coming from that peaceful hippy. 🤣😂

[@williamnew7503]

Finally subscribed to Dopey KZbin after being a fan of the ‘cast for many years. I’ve listened to every episode and I attribute my present sobriety in no small part to your show! Thanks Dave.

[@childrenoftheabzu]

Dope had nothing to do with jerrys health or looks. It was his awful diet and ciggs. Diabetes and cholesterol. Dope in itself is not really harmful beyond the physical dependency. Even with the physical dependency there is no real danger health wise as long as you get your fix. people can live a perfectly normal life on a maintenance program like subs or methadone. The administration route can be harmful if youre using needles which can lead to abscesses and endocarditis. But the dope itslef is not really harmful. Unpopular truth but it is the truth. EDIT: The constipation can cause health issues but miralax answers that

[@andrewbowen6875]

Especially Persian but the tinfoil itself is a killer. Re methadone which I nearly died trying come of a silly dose leading to Pericarditis and cardiomyopathy just from lack of sleep and being run down. At some point most of the people I know actually died from a low dose of methadone around the same age near fifty so I do think it eventually catches up with people in the end. I agree about Jerry’s health but u don’t see many old people picking up methadone scripts for a reason and I could be wrong but I think fifty for whatever reason the body just doesn’t process it the same as when young

[@MarvinMonroe]

All that freebasing equipment

[@slickwilly9334]

Saw them alot from 89-95 and the Jerry Ballads were incredible !

[@domalbanese969]

I live in San Francisco I've been growing for 10 years and I've been clean for almost 7 months off heroin and fentanyl. I don't do any substances thanks to a higher power of my understanding. You've got a new subscriber!

[@RobertMcEntee]

Congrats man! Hope you're still doing well

[@domalbanese969]

@@RobertMcEntee still clean 17 months strong

[@RobertMcEntee]

@@domalbanese969 Great job. If you've been to shows in recent yrs you're probably familiar with Wharf Rats group "Dont need dope to dance" So true!

[@CooManTunes]

Fentanyl? LOL. San Franchitco.

[@domalbanese969]

@@CooManTunes clean for almost 3 years now

[@illuminotmereloaded6896]

I worked in Humboldt near the Shasta County border in 2012 and 2013. I was clean off methadone and suboxone since 2010, but when the owner who was one of the Athens, GA Mafia (that’s what I call them) fired me so his grow ho’s 18 year old brother could have the job, I took my money and relapsed like a madman and got stuck in the Tenderloin of San Francisco for 3 weeks. I’ve had worse times, but that was right up there with the worst of them. The job itself, though. Absolutely meditative and beautiful. Probably the best job I’ve ever had working for someone else. I sucked at trimming and couldn’t do a pound a day, so did field work, of which there was plenty. All of the water for nutrients and plain watering and flushing was stored in 2000-3000 gallon tanks. There was a small pond on the property, but it dried up in June or so. Also zero grid power. All generator run. I traveled a lot and saw the Dead 3 times in 94 and 95 at ages 16 and 17. Hitchhiking in the mid to late 90s had something left of the outlaw lifestyle. I did not see this again until I worked and lived in that ganja farm. I don’t even partake. Haven’t since I was 18, but it is a beautiful lifestyle and very rewarding work.

[@eddiejamesmagic4207]

Been clean 5 years and smoke plenty of bud no methadone no subs just good ol fashioned weed

[@josephgrumet]

Important podcast public is starving for all things Garcia and feel is actually grossly underserved from journalistic perspective the good the great the ugly. Not many of us have a legacy to leave let alone one as authentic as Jerry’s and his impact on humanity! Job well done

[@Jsgro69]

1st I love Jerry and The Grateful dead. Ive thought that the death of Jerry was primarily caused pre maturely by the constant pressure of his band and close friends and his family for Jerry to "get clean" which i would imagine he would have truly loved to be a sober version of himself but I believe that when someone has used H and coke daily for the better part of 2 decades that its actually maybe not safe to attempt getting clean..and I do sincerely believe that if he wasn't pushed to get clean he most definitely not would of died Aug. 9th 1995 and quite possibly would still be here. Of course the band will never admit that it was their pressure had direct influence on his death way too soon. I know my theory can't be proven right or wrong and won't bring back Jerry or The Dead but I do strongly believe this!!! RIP Jerry and God Bless The Grateful Dead

[@georgerebic1240]

A lot of junkies die while trying to get clean

[@rocknroll6396]

So basically Jerry was human. Thats what I get out of this. Yes his music was magic but he was flawed no shame in that. I always felt my fav period is when he came back from the coma. There was like a spark there for just a couple years where they were 🔥 and Brent was still there. Brents death to me ended that spark. But thats my fav period. Esp live.

[@Charlieboy2680]

Dead and company are all about the money , you can buy a golden shake down street pass ? After the Grateful Dead I really liked Further with John K from Dark Star Orchestra and Phil and Bobby,I also liked RatDog . I did hear that Keith got fired from the band after he was caught going through Garcias briefcase.

[@infiniteXpower]

He got kicked out of JGB for going through the briefcase, not the Dead.

[@eroldcroft3045]

Great show. Subscribing. I was a major deadhead fiend. I stopped doing drugs. But I do pot and shrooms. I microdose shrooms every day. It grounds me. Microdosing now.. loving chocolate Thai thing. I spliced it with ten gen indica and called it tindik. I made it pouring chocolate milk into the ground for the entirety of it's growth. I made blueberry indica pouring blueberry juice in the ground.

[@Roy-G-Biv]

🌹🌞💀🌹💀🌹💀🌹🌞good one Dave. Can you link the article??

[@davidcarrington5654]

Hopefully it's not a violation of some obscure KZbin policy.....you can find it at Jerry Garcia's Missing Finger. jgmf.blogspot.com/2014/04/january-18-1985-strung-out-and-busted.html

[@saucyjk6453]

I thought he got busted at the park right on the bay. Gg park has a lot of tourist. Itd be easier to be ignored if he had tinted glass. I don't see the reminiscing angle. What people don't realize is the drugs allowed him to tour for a long time. When he got sober that was its own high but even that fades. I've been through it all. Grew up in Philly, blue collar like Jerry. Like Jerry I played and taught guitar for decades.We even have the same name. I'm now 54, a year older than Jerry when he died. I lived in San Fran from 07-12, my girlfriends last name was Getz, ironically, daughter of Dave from big brother. A talented songwriter in her own right. Jerry Garcia is someone I understand on soooo many levels. Everyone whoever knew him that I met said he was the nicest guy in the band, the smartest, and obviously the most talented. If you guys ever want some insights I have a bunch of cool stories that were told to me. As for Rock bottom, Jerry's was gentle because he had cash. Makes ALL the difference.

[@davidcollin1436]

My ex girlfriend was your girlfriend's babysitter at the Getz home

[@saucyjk6453]

I’m talking about his daughter Alzara who is 54. U might be referring to Liz who is younger

[@saucyjk6453]

I think I heard about that

[@pmayer]

He went to Golden Gate Park because he was dropping off his caretaker in SF for college. Happened to be in the city and the park is a nice place to park. Nothing more, nothing less.

[@mindsigh4]

Sedona California, yep, he got a little lost & still doesn't know where is Sedona

[@juansurfcity1605]

In the early eighties I had a surf buddy who's friend was a "road manager" for Bob Wier's group, as well as a high school friend that became an attorney working with the Dead organization. there was a definite use of opiate-style pills and smokable opiate stuff; much more sought after/prized by that "culture" than blow or weed. Once the "road manager" showed up with something called "citra-forte", which was said to be a mix of liquid opiate and cocaine that was used with terminal cancer patients. I went to a New Years show in Oakland and talked with my attorney buddy backstage, and "they" were looking for percodans. A lot of the big Dead followers/community in the close vicinity got caught up in the opiate thing for sure. My surf buddies friends were growing poppies in their yards; "everybody" was smoking that stuff and a lot of people, including that surf buddy (gone) and attorney (gone) didn't get out of that scene....

[@brianjansen3103]

Newer genetics suck imo, it's all going towards something I don't appreciate much, give me the good old super skunk, sour diesel, chem dog, these new strains don't get me stoned like that

[@davidsolomon1263]

Chem was the dankest strain i grew as well as bubble gum... now there so many diluted strain s

[@brianjansen3103]

@@davidsolomon1263 yep, that weed that makes me say I'm good & not cuz my throat hurts

[@alfreddorsey8916]

I thought he was gonna shit on my friend and brother Jerome. Remember he's human. R. I. P.. Some of it is accurate some of it is assumed.

[@garyyarago2096]

My wife,Bless her heart is not a Dead fan,something about the vocals (and not being on acid), but she loves Jerry,saying that hearing him sing "Standing On the Moon" had "pierced" her heart in an extraordinary manner- does it to me too, but I agree about the ballads- my favorites were the archaic numbers like "Jack -a -Roe" and slow ones-"China Doll" notably.

[@wayneoakley1832]

If I had unlimited funds I'd probably unlimited sense I'm told too be hard core anymore 😂 greatfull dead lsd hash and mushrooms changed my point of view of life the way I think the way I see and feel things. Definitely for the better. I think if it were possible if you could get enough healthy basically sober minded people into trials for lsd and mushrooms, dmt,alot of stuff that could help alot of people with alot of crap 🤔

[@michaelsmith-qm4ec]

Me 73 Still Puff- Do Mushrooms- 2 Plants That Have Saved Me+ Others From Insanity Cuz Many Videos+ Gatherings Still Happenings- Grateful Dead+ Many Other Musicians Share Their Feelings So We Are Family- Be Respectful To All- Keep On Truckin

[@vivianthemama5544]

I am finally getting my MSW but I listened to the katzs pod last night and debated selling pastrami mustard on rye somewhere 😆or eating some at the very least nice stuff Dave toodles Chris xx

[@stevenminnerly5336]

Garcia was brilliant when he described Cowboy Neal during interview. Not much evidence of mental degradation then.

[@PaTThRaX]

If you are anti drugs go home and throw away all your albums and CDs, delete all your MP3s cuz all the artists that made that music you love. REEEEEEEEEEEALLY high on drugs

[@michaelshearer3559]

There is no doubt that later years of JGB 90-92 was some of his finest work.

[@stevenminnerly5336]

In 1972 I had heard about J. Cassidy's ( bass ) brief case. I had no idea if it was truth or lie. It did attract your attention however.

[@jamienodell7109]

I grew up hanging on the Sheep's Meadow in Central Park in the late 80's and 90's. Loved chocolate thai. 7 years sober. Just don't use any drugs or alcohol. But, everyone's journey is different. Respect. Loved this podcast.

[@jerryakbar6147]

Do you have to dye your goatee when you get sober ? If you do I’m going on to the bitter end. Second question, are these guys from Long Island?

[@yankees29]

I live on Long Island. Why do you think these idiots are from LI?

[@jerryakbar6147]

@@yankees29 great neck

[@yankees29]

@@jerryakbar6147 my wife works over there. Shelter Rock road. I’m j. Westbury just off Northern St.

[@amyhoplermitchell4750]

I can listen to B Getz’ voice forever. It’s so soothing.

[@svbarr]

I can't watch hah ha jokey pieces about cutesy hiding drugs -- how romantic!! When the very talented drug user cut his life short with heroin...Think of all the music he could have made..,

[@eddiejamesmagic4207]

😢Dead n co to me is about bobby and how hard he is carrying the dead tradition alive I was always a jerry guy but after all these years of seeing bobby I love him musically and like he's a family member I dunno why but I don't get that from Phil I love Phil's bass in the dead but bobby means the world to me

[@WorkyMacWorkenson]

When I started seeing him in 83, I never thought he'd last 12 more years.

[@judahsears4463]

In Brooklyn, my Caribbean friends told me that , "chocolate" weed was yard weed from the Caribbean that had been packaged and smuggled inside Stout- so perhaps that could explain why it may have sweet chocolatey notes.

[@DopeyPodcast]

Interesting. Thanks for sharing!

[@katechurches]

They took a reasonably interesting topic and made it incredibly boring with inane babbling.

[@D-Fens_1632]

And I've often found it interesting and kind of sad actually that he wasn't carrying any pot. As far as I know he never lost his love for it, it's surprising such an active drug user wouldn't at least keep a joint on hand among all that.

[@ofangelsflipz]

He didn't need to 😂 people would simply give it to him for free anywhere he went

[@bunnybeckman8029]

Jerry might of been an Alien because of the pull of his energy , he told me in 1988 that he was tiered so I had to leave him to his demons !

[@Stonecrow25]

It was “us” or the drugs. Garcia picked the drugs

[@johnanderson27]

The chocolate thai that you’re talking about are used to be called Buddha i grew up in New York Long Island and New York City and that was definitely shipped in from another country because it was always compressed I used to have pounds and pounds of it I should’ve kept it for myself because I never saw it again after those few years that we used to have it

[@intuneorange]

Wacky weed hockey pucks

[@yankees29]

I’m from Long Island. My dad has been smoking since the 60’s. I remember the chocolate from the early 90’s.

[@southernvtgrown]

Vermont has always had the dank ✌🏻💚✌🏻💚🌬💨💨😶‍🌫️

[@scottrose8417]

Jerry prefered smoking Mexican Brown weed as my close friend was hired to run errands for Jerry, when he was home my friend did lots of errands for him and one was to find him mexican brown weed.

[@danielosullivan3110]

I got kicked out of AA because I smoke weed 😁

[@charlielaunder4520]

Me too Dan....I tried to justify it by saying at least I didn't drink, which is the reason I'm here in the first place. Apparently my counselor was a deadhead and naive me thought I could trust her.

[@saucyjk6453]

They can't kick you out. If they do you are in the wrong idea.

[@davidcarrington5654]

This video got me 'hooked' on Dopey! Fantastic interview about an incredibly poignant article at JG Missing Finger...I've been a long-time back and forth, into and out of recovery, and I love to hear these stories.

[@ofangelsflipz]

The "devil hand"

[@777jones]

Listened for 16 minutes and was waiting for content to begin. Is this performance art? Seems like the most likely explanation.

[@jasonpalomba6093]

I met the cop when I got arrested in SF..they introduced themselves to me in 92.. this story is close. But Jerry didn't want alot of this responsibility. I talked to him twice...smoking camels together at the Warfield...Jerry was complicated...I'm not a deadhead...I'm a Jerry head and I miss him . I'll keep the rest of it private. .but Jerry was just one of the kids. 🔴⚡🔵

[@DopeyPodcast]

Jerry was definitely one of a kind, complicated but beloved by so many. It’s crazy how these encounters stick with us, especially when it’s someone like Jerry. Thanks for sharing that, and yeah, some stories are best kept private. But still, what a memory! Stay strong, brother. 🚀

[@jerryakbar6147]

25.15 total bologna, these two knuckleheads are ridiculous. If Garcia was alive today he would be heartbroken to see the condition of this country now. I’m from NYC, live in LA now, which is like Detroit with better weather. Can’t vote your way out of this situation folks. It’s too late. Enjoy the shows from the 70’s. Turn the lights off when you leave. Nice try fellas.

[@flazjsg]

Jerry was too good of a musician to play the same songs for 20 years or more. A player of his caliber needs to be consistently challenged. Jerry went through a lot of trauma at a young age - watching his father drown, finger getting chopped off, mother dying after prolonged injuries after a car-crash. He had a rough childhood. Probably spent most of his life trying to keep those emotions in check (aka repressed). Then they eventually manifest in the form of depression/anxiety. The chickens came home to roost, so he needed ever increasing numbers of drugs to keep himself feeling good. The Dead's best years should've been the 1980s and 90s.

[@fchampd4512]

But it was not the 80s or 90s, it was the 70s

[@scottgunn9978]

I don't do drugs anymore.... than your traveling funk band.

[@michaelb.42112]

I grew up in Marin in the 80's and 100% got the chocolate Thai sticks from the dude that came into Port. An eighth was so small because it was so rock hard. It tasted EXACTLY like chocolate and was such a nice high.

[@DopeyPodcast]

Crazy! How long you been sober for?

[@bunnybeckman8029]

I loved the wall of sound , no matter where u went in the place it was u could hear it all the same clear sound of music !only Jerry could do that !

[@firstgenchevelleman]

I heard Jerry smelled very very bad

[@donbaker5707]

Hit em wit da dopey and motherfucking toodles for chris and watch out for the baby mantis

[@DopeyPodcast]

#ssdn 🤘

[@matthewmaguire3554]

Those fixated on freedom are the most vulnerable to unexpected traps 🔥

[@FluffHead]

Really interesting. I always wondered how Jerry ingested his heroine. I always figured he smoked it. But I was so naive about his addiction. I was lucky enough to see Highgate VT in 95. I had a really cosmic experience the night he passed and after my experience I’ve always felt a connection to Jerry.

[@scottstern6508]

I recently saw an older Phil interview and he said at the very least, he microdosed for every show? I'm pretty sure? Ask your boy B's dead scholar buddies😆

[@newusernamehere4772]

Hell yeah lol, apparently Billy still eats shrooms religiously as well. Bobby does once in a while

[@newusernamehere4772]

Mickey's an enigma but I reckon he at least smokes DMT once in a while

[@samsham8218]

Ohh duuuuude!! This is such a Wicked AWESOME ideah!! Can't wait for more!!

[@sandiaYpescado]

Where is this article?

[@BrandonToy]

I wish we could talk about the dead without having to think about the bummer that was Jerry’s end.

[@codybluetarp]

Question: Have any of you guys ever been the subject of an intervention? Interesting experience. At first it's everything like, "how you been?; Yeah, cool." And then everyone focuses their immediate attention on you. Jerry Garcia was a musician's musician. He was not sentimental, but he knew what American Music is. I heard an interview where he was asked about drugs as related generally to "Tge Grateful Dead", and he admitted that it was part of it, but I've always known that Jerry and The Dead, on anything from a good night to a not-so-good-night, Jerry Garcia was a great person, and particularly, a Genius, whose influence is enormous.

[@kymmcl8435]

I love this episode … thanks guys

[@craigshewchuk9018]

I'm in recovery, I smoke bud and oil and take subs. Recovery for me means no heroin or opiates or crack or hard drugs. I grew before and would do a small outdoor still. My state is legal and can grow legally but mainly get dispensary stuff, good price and quality I think

[@newusernamehere4772]

I recommend kratom over subs, subs are still bad news. That being said that's a lot of progress. Even after quitting everything else I never thought I'd quit kratom but now I'm over a year clean. Back on weed though lol

[@newusernamehere4772]

Also if Salvia is legal where you live try microdosing, that was ultimately what got me off booze, kratom, Adderall, nitrous, cigarettes, and MDMA

[@craigshewchuk9018]

No kratom, doesn't do anything for me And why salvia? I don't id be able to lol

[@andrewmodell5889]

Jerry I shouldn't say this oh God I should not say this is alive in Hawaii ..he retired and the persona died but he is still there...go and just look is all I'm gonna say you'll see him ...

[@andrewmodell5889]

For real just go and look but don't look I'd check out Phil's place disent really send like him and in a video that was taken down it looks like Jerry with grey hair and no beard well it the jg beard no way he died he wanted out if thr ehile HIIT thing Jerry is more like Rob zombie that a hippy if you read about him and study his drawing

[@andrewmodell5889]

Like I said look in the back grounds if those video you see while Phil leah and Jerry had it out cause Phil's a dick ..source ??? Go look for your self this is the only thread on line about this and I should never have said it never mind I'm lieing I made it up ,but for real look ....

[@faborwick5887]

@@andrewmodell5889 are you suggesting that Jerry is still alive? You are 100% not dealing on the plain of reality there kind sir. with all due respect

[@itsgonnbeok7249]

@@andrewmodell5889 Stop tweaking

[@marcbernicker206]

Still dosing I'd imagine? but I wish it were true

[@dougcanady7960]

I remember when it happened and hearing the FM DJ reading the news about it. Afterwords he just said, "Jerry Garcia busted for drugs? Is nothing sacred?" Of course, we all cheered and laughed at Hampton a few months later when he was singing "Throw me into the jailhouse.... until the sun goes down".

[@onearmleroy2696]

well made it to the 22:22 mark - “loose lips sink ships fellas” if Parish didn’t say it the man certainly lives by it - Love Garcia? then walk these hills

[@tjw3999]

i went to over a hundred dead shows i ve met thousands of deadheads. i never heard one of them call jerry god. if thats true it musta been a very small minority

[@RobertMcEntee]

Surely you saw "the spinners" at shows? They believed his guitar was speaking the word of God. Yes many deified him, maybe didnt call him "God" but certainly treated him like a prophet at least...

[@tjw3999]

@@RobertMcEntee naaa they was just trippin lmao

[@jeffcrawford3424]

Definitely were Joseph and the Church of Unlimited Devotion were the spinners and believed Garcia was god I saw over a 100 shows too and met and hung out with them though I didn't join

[@mcdaniels6188]

There's always an exception to the rule. And in regards to 90's shows, 5/27/93 Cal Expo is a good example. What a set list, and execution. Generally though, I do avoid most post-Brent shows.

[@mcdaniels6188]

didn't Phil enter into a contract with Peter Shapiro where he and the friends, or Terrapin family band would only play at his venues? Also, I believe that contract stated there would be no further configurations of Weir, Lesh, Kreutzman, and Hart after Fare thee Well. So that said, Phil has had a chance to not have to tour, and make it very lucrative.

[@MrHAPPYHAWAIIAN]

Sober 33 years. That means all drugs. Works for me, good luck to the person still altering their minds.😮

[@newusernamehere4772]

Damn even caffeine?

[@newusernamehere4772]

What if you get sick? No cough or cold medicine? No allergy meds?

[@newusernamehere4772]

Props dude

[@MrHAPPYHAWAIIAN]

@@newusernamehere4772 of course u can use these medications, if have a reason to use medication. Have to think about it, not complicated. If your using a medication to get high with then no.

[@ours1209]

worse Dead i’ve attended. Red Rocks August ‘78 first night. Jerry and Keith doped into a stuper. Next night Jerry whaled.

[@Belbivdevoe]

If you read big Steve's book, him and Phil took Jerry to a experimental narcan dr and he felt like they poisoned him and that was in the late 70's so I can see why he didn't want anyone from the band to help him

[@drewbonsall384]

Darkness is a strong word I get it drugs will take everything then come back for the rest of you my first show was in 87 never knew he was a junkie for years I'm glad heroine wasn't in are tribe we partied on a lot of other stuff and Jerry was bad but how about someone like Whitney Houston or Micheal Jackson and countless others we love still Jerry 35 years and still on that long strange trip

[@willisjefferson5886]

This is great, Glad I found you

[@Harpin519]

Great to see BG , thanks , KZbin is getting better Dave Keep up good work , Thanks Howie ☮️

[@DavidAcevedoAlvaro]

Phil has mantained musical integrity , his shows are much better with any line up than Dead and Co

[@jimmcguy5511]

Weed biggest waste of time. Jerry was a unique guitar player. A great talent cut short by dope.

[@BlackRail33]

Great stuff! Love the all the artisan wine and weed talk.

[@jeffcrawford3424]

I saw tons of shows and in the 90s JGB shows were much better. Jerry loved that band and you can tell. This may he selfish but id Deborah Koons never comes into the equation and pushes Jerry to get clean we would of at least got a couple more years of music she basically killed him.

[@disintegrationnation9352]

I heard a reputed Garcia quote from an intervention: Man, I can take it or leave it; right now I'm takin' it.

[@MrHAPPYHAWAIIAN]

Lucky to see GD from 1981-1992. I got sober 1989. After that I noticed the deplorable condition JG was in. 😢

[@treebeard8475]

What is that saying “heroes never die but legends live forever” Jerry and Brent were too big for this world.

[@MrHAPPYHAWAIIAN]

@@treebeard8475 Jerry was human with immense musical talent. What killed Jerry was smoking, diabetes, obesity and drug dependency. The overall theme was to many yes men around Jerry. Catering to his every whim. 🤯😭

[@treebeard8475]

@@MrHAPPYHAWAIIAN I tend to agree with this and it’s a shame. The band members tried they pleaded with him. Playing devils advocate: could be mistaken, but Janis and Jimi had managers who tried to keep drugs away. The culture and stress and overall life style probably made it even harder to fight.

[@MrHAPPYHAWAIIAN]

@@treebeard8475 I have not lived a public life, but many people do and are sober. What killed Jerry is smoking, diabetes, obesity and bad eating. Possible HTN too. To many yes men around Jerry, enabling his disease of addiction. 😞😭🤯

[@yankees29]

@@MrHAPPYHAWAIIAN I’d say the years of freebasing killed him.

[@drewbonsall384]

No golden gate park is huge and it was get high place and the last thing was in his mind I slept on the end the height right before the big fire I love SF

[@bunnybeckman8029]

He came looking for me & ended up in Stonington Maine ur he stayed there for 2/3 weeks because nobody knew him ! He loved it there !

[@2005rosebud]

Interview Big Sid real prison talk. A great comedian

[@oldworldchris4187]

I got some chocolate Thai the other day at the dispensary, it's fantastic!

[@michaelb.42112]

Hello from Sonoma County right near Alembic.