Jerry West SILENCES JJ Redick "You Averaged 12 Pts!"

Jerry West responds to JJ Redick's "Plumbers and Fireman" comments on Bob Cousy and the rest of 1950's and '60's NBA. We bring you up to speed on JJ Redick, Jerry West and Bob Cousy's entire beef from the beginning to now.
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Chapters
00:00 - Intro - JJ's Got Beef, AGAIN
00:30 - Fireman and Plumbers
01:00 - Cousy Isn't Too Old For Beef
01:57 - Jerry West The Savage
02:27 - Old vs New Players
03:00 - JJ's Missed Points
03:39 - Elite Is Elite
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[@ViewTheRightThing]

I don't think that JJ knew that Cousy and West knew how to use social media 😂😂 I've loving how they're getting into the narrative, what about y'all? Let'em know in the comments. 🙏🏾 for watching kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5aVmnWAabxgi7s

[@torrinbianchi5283]

So argument is JJ not good so he can’t comment about on others better? Fuckin stupid

[@terryrouse7128]

Here the probably with the old school is weaker argument. They get coached by the under study of the ppl that coached them..

[@lightningsmokerXx]

; ) kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4qslnd-hNJgaKs

[@watchmanonthewall14]

When Reddick disrespects the Logo, those are ACTUAL fighting words in my book.

[@pjpj2639]

JJ get rid of the 80s club kid haircut

[@ghouston6950]

Bob Cousy will always be remembered as one of the all-time great guards in the NBA while JJ Redick will always be that dude no one knew played in the NBA.

[@emmanuelida4575]

Whose JJ? Lol

[@PIP...33]

@@emmanuelida4575 IF U HAVE 30+ IM 39 AND WATCHED WHOLE CAREER U KNOW GUY CANT SHOOT. HE IS RUN BEHIND SCREENER THATS HIS GAME. JERRY WEST BY KOBES WORDS CAN PUM FAKE U LEARN PULL UP AND PUMP FROM HIM, ALSO NOT FORGET, REDIC CHOKE IN EVERY PLAYOFF EVERY TEAM. WEST LOST ONLY TO SUPERTEAM.

[@freddyfurrah3789]

😆

[@corganosway5415]

And yet JJ is right... if he could go back in time to that day would have destroyed them especially if there was a 3-point line Aaron.. He's right basketball has gotten way way better

[@deannichols8054]

Jj without screens cannot get a shot off and rarely can create his own shot. You put him back at a time without a three point shot he probably would score maybe 6 pts a game if he were lucky. His weak frame couldn't put up with the physicality of the league back then. Possibly he would be at best a bench warmer

[@DARTH-VADER-SW]

JJ got seriously clowned🤡 by NBA history standards. He's a fly on Cousy ass.

[@XandateOfHeaven]

Bob Cousy 18-21 ppg for 10 years when there was no three-point line, and led the league in assists for 8 years in a row. While his field goal percentage may seem lackluster by today's standards, he was average for most of his career, but as mentioned it wasn't his role. The guys he played against like Robertson, Russell, Chamberlain, West and Baylor set records that either were not broken for decades, or remain unbroken by the supposedly superior skills of the modern NBA. Now we could talk about how you couldn't palm the ball or travel back then, so FG% was lower, or how Cousy was an innovator in ball handling, or how Cousy would have had different training had he been born in the 00s and not in the 20s, but the game will always be changing. Cousy's most enduring legacy is the fact that he helped found the player's union. He was one of the only people to be making a decent living in the NBA at the time and he used his power as an all-star to give a hand to his fellow players, and all future players. Not to rub it in too much because I don't think Redick thinks he's the best player ever, but Cousy has an NCAA championship, 6 NBA championships, one MVP, 13 All Star appearances, 2 All Star MVPs, 8 assist leaders, and a retired NBA jersey number, and Redick has 0.

And Boom goes the dynamite.

[@ktharamseye2197]

🏀💥BOOM

[@sdrice2007]

@@XandateOfHeaven 🫡

[@imSLO-]

As someone who watched the NBA in the 90s, it’s frustrating trying to convince these new fans that MJ didn’t play against a bunch of dinosaurs. It’s sad when these guys say the Reggie Miller led Pacers were garbage while praising Lamelo Ball and the Hornets 😅

[@bigguccisandles4083]

Cmon now melo ball can hoop he woulda cooked in any era

[@dgames8900]

@@bigguccisandles4083 🤣

[@casanova11ize]

But he did. It was big man oriented. Walk the ball up throw it to the post. Dribble dribble pass out. Throw it back in to the post. That’s why Jordan and pippen excelled. They had the triangle which revolves around ball and player movements just like today’s game thanks to Phil Jackson.

[@baddzz27]

lamelo and the hornets are not even a play in team miller’s pacers we’re some of jordan’s best competition😂

[@imSLO-]

@@casanova11ize what kind of offense would you classify the ‘22 Lakers?

[@jinglingbabygarage7030]

Back then with no 3 pointer JJ would have been a 6 pt man! Like Barkley said just riding the bus never driving!🤣

[@Wolfe-xz6tr]

Without a 3-pt line JJ would never have made it out of high school ball.

[@ralph.aguinaldomd]

"Their players played with podcasters and TV show hosts." Damn straight. Firemen and plumbers are more athletic than podcasters and TV show hosts.

[@markhodges5138]

We stand on the shoulders of giants who had it a lot harder than we ever did.

[@cappy2282]

Jerry survived living in LA without becoming a lunatic

[@upabittoolate]

Incorrect. Jerry IS a lunatic. It's just that his crazy is mild and cancels out the SoCal craziness. You don't get to be Jerry West without being a little bit crazy.

[@terrancesmith81]

Yea he whit fuck you talkin bout

[@kenrickeason]

@@upabittoolate if you live with crazy then you crazy as hell for living with crazy.. yeah... Edited: I like Jerry West.. Dude was a beast on that court..

[@domjones_who3849]

IF YOU WATCH THE HBO SPECIAL...YOU'LL SEE HE'S ABSOLUTELY A LUNATIC

[@bh7286]

😂

[@Mixamaka]

"...doing that thing where they are pretending to debate." 👌😂😂😂

[@ViewTheRightThing]

Glad you liked it, Sometimes that show kills me 😂😂 Thanks for the comment.

[@t-bo-lesotho]

Jerry West cuts people down in the most respectful and thoughtful manner possible. The eyes say otherwise, but he doesn't throw verbal daggers at people.

[@alltheworldsastage8597]

That’s my point exactly who is JJ Redick to be in these conversations. That just goes to show you a lot of guys today they don’t respect the past at all.

[@ViewTheRightThing]

It's funny to me when dudes who seek to make history don't respect it. The quickest way to make sure that you're forgotten is to forget those who came before. I appreciate the comment, 🙏🏾 for watching.

[@alltheworldsastage8597]

@@ViewTheRightThing No doubt!!! The only thing he said that made sense was that great players would be great in any era.

[@riotinto1662]

Is there any correlation between Perkins and Reddick ?

[@user-oe4wr9tn2n]

@@ViewTheRightThing It is because no old people respect the modern nba. If you look at what JJ said(while it was wrong) the other guy was just as delusional. He said that Chris paul was worse than Bob Cousey. THis is just false.

[@cycleoflife565]

@@user-oe4wr9tn2n It’s a matter of opinion. You can’t just look at stats. Paul has made it to just one NBA finals in his career. For an all time great point guard that is difficult to accept. His contemporaries have way more to show for their time in the league than he has, Cousy especially.

[@the6thfloor33]

It is safe to say that JJ Redick would be a role player-scrub in any era--past, present or future.

[@johnpage7624]

He was a role player scrub.

[@senseichess8688]

true

[@ilocanodetoy2225]

JJ, Kendrick, and Draymond are the Plumbers and Fireman’s of this league because they are not elite players.

[@ViewTheRightThing]

Maybe they should form a Union 😂 Thanks for comment man.

[@tirethor972mjolnir3]

You can't compare folks that actually have a man's job to guys that play a school yard game.

[@aggavan6860]

@@tirethor972mjolnir3 saying some dumb shyt right there

[@KQJ777]

@Greg definitely sounds like it could be jealously but he's not 100% wrong. Playing a sport where even bench players who don't touch the court players make more money then most people on this earth is a blessing and can even be seen as ridiculous to people unaware of it lol. Can't really compare that to the every day struggle most go through. Sports do bring alot of money that hopefully goes back into the city via taxes. Also for other dude I get your point but the context of the original comment is just stating those players are necessary for a basketball team/ society to function well same way society needs people to fulfill these roles that aren't necessarily in the spotlight therefore you won't get recognition but nonetheless you are doing something important to life.

[@000777D]

J.J was not nearly as important to any of his teams as Draymond is. I respect that he made it too and lasted almost 2 decades in the league, but Draymonds IQ, tenacity, defense and affecte on the game is out of his league

[@kalima3683]

Jerry West was the NBA Finals MVP in 1969, and the Lakers lost the series to the Celtics in 7 games. When does a player is so recognized on a losing team? He was so clutch that Bill Russell praised him so much for carrying the Lakers for the entire series. The logo is Mr. Clutch period.

[@ViewTheRightThing]

I mean to my knowledge it's the only time it's ever happened so that should tell you something, right? Thanks for the comment.

[@karlcooper7016]

Jerry West is what I call a transition athlete he could have played in any era.

[@dee-5297]

JERRY WEST.....WHERE ARE THE WHITEMEN AT 🤣 .....ITS on KZbin

[@charlestsai4211]

You mean transcendental ?

[@gregprovaccio1932]

JJ has a ton of nostalgia in his eyes when he talks about what he accomplished in the nba. Thinks he was on super teams and that his teams invented certain ways of playing while no one else can name the teams he was on for each year.

[@ViewTheRightThing]

And for being on all of those rosters, nearly not as much winning as he probably should have had. Thanks for the comment.

[@LeggyCam]

To be fair he and everyone in the league today would absolutely run laps around those old guys and I think that was one of his points. I’d argue JJ regardless is a top 10-15 shooter ever and has played on some conference finals teams

[@dxtremecaliber]

@@LeggyCam nah Wilt and Bill will still be amazing in this era and JJ did nothing in this league

[@SirNxgroUnChained]

@@dxtremecaliber facts. wilt, bill, baylor and the true greats of that era would have no problem dominating across ANY era. I think Jokic is a great example of that today. He could play then and now.

[@THE_BEAR_JEW]

​@@LeggyCam He was in some Conference Finals teams when? When he was buried in the bench. He wasn't even the 6th man on the Orlando team. That's the only time he's made it past the conference semis, when he was like the 8th man on a team with Matt Barnes on it. That's how sorry he was. Lets not act like he was this crazy contributor to that team.

[@renatoruiz8534]

A fair comparison would be to swap the NBA rules for both eras and see how the players perform. Wilt and Russ were not allowed to bang in the paint on offense. That was a foul. Palming was strictly enforced hence so much dribbling with only the dominant hand. NO 3 point line. No zero dribble gather.

[@ViewTheRightThing]

Both great comments bro and I agree. There's no way to judge these guys without proper context. Everything is conditional and determined by the rules of play. Thanks for adding to the conversation. 🙏🏾

[@CLU_GODSON]

FAX - West would have avg more if there was a 3pt line back then... He was hitting halfcourt shots before Curry's dad was even alive!

[@5yearsout]

The other part that gets overlooked by folks like JJ is that even though there were fewer teams, they had to travel by train or bus, not chartered plains, and lets not forget the racial factor that I'm betting was another level back in the '50's & '60's. Yes we still have racial issues today, but nothing like then.

[@jmad627]

Geez nowadays they palm and travel all over the place.

[@CLU_GODSON]

@@5yearsout FactS

[@jayjonah83]

I love how Jerry West is about that smoke. Shots fired. People need to put respect on the names of the players that we can't readily KZbin. I understand what my Dad and his generation meant when they said "yeah he's good but you should've seen..." because how players like Barkley, Tmac, Olajuwon and, vs Lebron, even MJ get disrespect from newer fans.

[@ViewTheRightThing]

That's what I'm finding too the more that I get into old NBA tape, It's also why I try to be as fair as I can when I'm doing my thing. 🙏🏾 for the comment.

[@Amick44]

Exactly. All these Jordan detractors have surfaced after he's been gone so long. Same for Wilt, Larry. They didn't play against this, that b.s. You can only play against your completion.

[@renatoruiz8534]

Haters say they played in a weaker expansion team era. Then they say older greats only played in a league with 8-12 teams. Make it make sense!

[@demonkingbadger6689]

@@renatoruiz8534 i have learned they evidently dont teach math in school these days. But, basically if went back to 10 teams you can essentially every bench and automatically cut them, and then let the starters try to find jobs. So, JJ would be a 12th man, maybe.

[@CLU_GODSON]

FAX... And today's players in the draft... So disrepectful.. Chet H. said he's going to be the BEST player in the league in Two months when the NBA season starts... YEAH right kid...He's got a target on his back now... That skinny frame is going to get tossed around the league.

[@affableman]

I saw Cousy at the tail end of his career. Watched Chamberlain and Russell go at it many times. Saw Jerry West simply make others look slow. Had Oscar Robertson teach me how to shoot a jumper the right way at a basketball camp. I've watched the NBA since I was about four years-old. Who the hell is JJ Redick and why does anyone care? In ten years, nobody is going to remember his name but they'll still remember the names of the greats that I listed. Jerry West, Bob Cousy and Oscar Robertson just to name a few would have wiped the floor with him. As for the firemen and plumbers comment. Not one starter on an NBA team of that era had another job, not a one. A few and I sincerely mean a few benchwarmers who sat way down at the end of the bench had second jobs back then. If not for those guys in the 50's and 60's as well as Magic, Bird and Jordan, none of these guys today would be making the money they do. Look I love Shaq. He was one of the greatest big men ever and he's done great things after his career ended but Wilt at 40+ years-old would have dominated him just as he dominated Nate Thurmond and Bill Russell when he set his mind to it. There was no athlete stronger than Wilt and still isn't today. Bill Russell was my hero growing up and still is and not just for basketball but the fact is, he could barely contain Wilt. Wilt was a colossus. He was the best overall athlete on the planet when he was 17 years-old. He could have set records in the decathlon, weightlifting and a lot more sports if he'd wanted to. This is a guy who at 7'1" conservatively ran the 40 yard dash in 4.4 seconds. He could bench 550 lbs. In the '61-'62 season, Wilt averaged 48.5 minutes a game. Even Jordan couldn't come close to the abilities that Wilt had. Thing is though, nobody ever talks about Wilt as the GOAT and the reason for it is that he was in a league of his own. Wilt still owns 72 NBA records and he's the sole owner of 68 of them. JJ Redick would have been hard-pressed to make an all-star team back then...

[@IknowMoreThanYou]

They don't talk about wilt as the GOAT BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WIN. ALL THOSE GIFTS AND HE DID NOT DOMINATE IN A WINNING FASHION. WILT SHOULD BE THE GOAT EASILY BUT he ain't win

[@jayjohnson7646]

Now see you had me until the shaq stuff. 40 year old was still a specimen trust me I have read, and watched all interviews and book excerpts. There is no way wilt at 40 dominate shaq no sir. Wilt never played a guy at his position that was 7'1 290 or 300 pounds running and jumping and sheer strength to match him(wilt). Shaq in his prime would get off on wilt at 40. Now prime for prime very much a different story. And lastly I gotta point out how a young Kareem gave wilt them buckets almost a 40 piece and double digit boards sir. That was a Kareem who never weighed what shaq or wilt was. Kareem at max would check in at 240 or 245. That's it. We gotta stop trying to shit on shaq and saying dumb stuff. Shaq had more skills than people would to remember and that also goes for wilt as well. Most ppl like to think Shaq and Wilt only dunked and that's totally false. Wilt took most of his attempts on jump shots and turn around faded and or face up fades. Finger rolls.

[@jayjohnson7646]

@@IknowMoreThanYou well how could wilt win more than 2 rings when he never played with more than one hof or all.star until late in his career when he was with the Lakers. All them.years in Philly he had only Hal Greer as the all Stat or now HOFer. Had wilt played with that Celtics squad or that Lakers squad and or NYC Knicks he definitely would have had way more rings. Especially imagine he played in those 8 finals with Jerry West and Elgin Baylor and later on Gail Goodrich. Wilt probably have 5 chips at least. Hell Jerry west and Elgin both was good for 25, 30, and even sometimes a 50 point scoring night. That along side wilt would had been too much to handle

[@Amick44]

@@jayjohnson7646 you omitted 2 HOF SF's in Billy Cunningham & Chet Walker at Philly. That Sixers team was loaded. Along with Wilt and Greer.

[@cedricwalker678]

Dribbling with 1 hand ok go watch the highlights alotta them dudes wouldn't even make it to the league in this era

[@lightningsmokerXx]

0:43 - there were 8 teams, so if there were 8 teams, that means scrubs dont make the team , that means the best guys available are out there and guys like jj reddick dont have a job. Less diluted league.

[@ViewTheRightThing]

This is low key such a good point. League expansion benefited non star NBA players the most. Thanks for the comment

[@maximostiberius2324]

8 teams means the talent was concentrated

[@dearmas9068]

JJs right though. A lot of players from that era were only semi professional. There were legends, and there were guys who worked day jobs. That's just a fact.

[@maximostiberius2324]

@@dearmas9068 so they all paved the way for Jj Redick who was similar to those lesser players you mention. His comment was a crack at those players and The logo slammed him for it. It was well deserved.

[@dearmas9068]

@@maximostiberius2324 nah, man. The game has come SO far since then. If JJ played back then he would have been a 10x allstar

[@KeemTheDream84]

The Logo wanted all the smoke lmao!!!!!!! Killed Redick with the quickness

[@JakeJon]

Perfect breakdown. J J was so disrespectful to legends that not only paved the way but would DESTROY him on the court 😂 The next generation will DEFINITELY say this Generation we’re a bunch of Podcasters

[@ViewTheRightThing]

Thanks for rocking with me and I appreciate the kind words. 🙏🏾

[@stormb8433]

They were plumbers and fireman mostly back then tho. And JJ was better than 95% of the players back then. What did he say that was so wrong? The players 40 years from now I’m sure will be much better than the players now for the most part.

[@JakeJon]

@@stormb8433 if that’s true why is Jordan still the GOAT why are Wilt Chamberlain and Michael Jordan athletically superior to EVERY other player today outside of maybe a Zack Levine who has a 46” vert whilst wilt and MJ both had a 50”vert 😂 and you think J J reddick thinks he’s better than Jerry West??? He’s not even a top 75 player. He’s not even a top 100 player of all time. You’ve clearly been bamboozled into thinking the next generation is always better when actually the average athleticism tends to go up slightly however the TOP players dominate in any era. West would EMBARRASS J J with superior athleticism & a superior killer mentality It’s not what he said that was wrong is the fact that he opened his mouth amongst the big boys in the first place 😂

[@stormb8433]

@@JakeJon what JJ said was correct. Doesn’t matter what his numbers were. He’s been a solid player in this league and better than most of the players back then. So he has every right to give his opinion on anything basketball

[@ronm3945]

@@stormb8433 how they better exactly..my grandmama can play in this soft no touch no defense micky mouse era..lmao

[@richmonroe2930]

I’m surprised that JJ would be so disrespectful To those elite legends of the NBA!

[@davidtrevino5211]

Don't be.. Apparently he's a crackhead now... Sad...

[@chazzx1018]

He wasn't great player, so he needs to put somebody down. It's an insecurity in today's players. Why would you claim that you would've easily beaten past champs? These new players have no history, so they must make themselves feel better about their game.

[@ronm3945]

didnt see jordan put down previous legends..greats respect other greats...the mediocre on the other hand want to pull everyone to their level

[@jamessansone3455]

Back in the 60's Boston had the famous fast break. I really don't know how these players could have run up and down the court all night wearing those Chuck Taylors, crazy those sneeks offered no support

[@tucansam3147]

Lmao brah I wonder the same thing bro those old heads aka older generation love chucks crazy part about you never heard about them getting injured like these players in today game

[@ojlott-w4n]

@@tucansam3147 to me kd and curry would of been penny Hardaway n grant Hill, if they played in the early Era cuz the injury they had was considered career ending in the early days

[@raybrown5587]

I hoop in chucks and everyone calls me crazy for it. I'm flatfooted af so most shoes are ridiculously uncomfortable for me.

[@dee-5297]

THE 60S WE IN 2023 JJ RIGHT AMERICAN EUROS ARE EXTINCT IN TODAYS NBA A D HAVE TO GO TO THE PAST

[@debrathompson4319]

..sadly, that is why many of the surviving stars of those days and many non stars suffer horrible knee, hip and low back issues. Imagine those 50’s, 60’s superstars with the technology, training and medical advantages of today.

[@SobersRajakumar]

They were plumbers and firemen because the young league wasn’t paying the players like today. These scrubs making millions every year should be thankful to the legends for making the game what it is today

[@chad3452]

Love this I'm 43yo and I'm on west and cousy's side ... Jerry West&Bob Cousy got me literally lmfao those old school guys landed some verbal bombs 💣💥😂

[@anthony0358]

Great video! We need to have respect for the players from the 1960s and 1970s. John Madden said these players from that era, today would take advantage of the training and technology. This would level the playing field. Elite is elite , I shared it on my twitter

[@ViewTheRightThing]

Thanks bro, It's wild to me that Cousy catching flak but when you check the tape, dude was a magician out there. Thanks for the comment as always.

[@deemaccin2400]

Man just think if they had access to all the new shit they where greats without all of it just imagine

[@ojlott-w4n]

U know how dangerous a players from 50s n 60s if they had full pads n helmets

[@demonkingbadger6689]

I have been arguing what Madden said without knowing he ever said that, then.☺️

[@debrathompson4319]

Those 50’s, 60’s Celtics made me, at 9 years old, become a life long NBA fan...I still bleed green and yes, even miss the old Garden at North Station.

[@carl1095]

JJ is the NBA's modern-day plumber.

[@Tbstash]

His highlights are better than a Jerry west

[@MackinNC1]

@@Tbstash joking right? jerry west has more skill in his pinkie than jj has in hi whole body.

[@dariopadovan1976]

Maybe. But he would destroy a Bob Cousy, and that’s what he is talking about

[@sheastadium2008]

@@dariopadovan1976 Nah, Cousy assists are better than anything JJ did.

[@dee-5297]

JJ is showing you why you're in the past and if you bring playees from the past from the nineties they're gonna be plumbers too matter fact you can't because they can't play today you ever think about that since you're talking about jj Reddick at least he could play today

[@victorf6672]

Put the newer guys in the 60s and they wouldn't shoot the lights out because throughout their development nobody would allow them to shoot from long range, while if you put the older fellas in the modern context they would be incentivized to shoot from earlier on.

[@steves9964]

Excellent point! The older game was about a dominant big man and forcing the ball inside offensively and packing it in defensively. That gave way to a more balanced game in the 80s and 90s to nowadays where how many guys in total play with their back to the basket on the block? I remember when Charles Barkley went over to Houston in the late 90s and he and Hakeem would race to see who would set up shop on that left block. Nowadays it's vacant...

[@vali7696]

Completely agree. Players today learned from players in the past, benefit from different rules, more modern equipment, and more advanced training methods. Add on top of that the incentive to play all day every day because of what past players did to constantly get the salaries for players to go up and up. Greatness will always be judged based on the era.

[@ViewTheRightThing]

I couldn't have said it better myself, this is the whole video in a few sentences. I really appreciate the thoughts. 🙏🏾

[@UNCfanatic50]

While it maybe true it doesn’t make JJs point any less true

[@vali7696]

@@UNCfanatic50 here’s a point to consider: jj reddick, a 3 point specialist, can’t even judge players from the 60’s at all cuz there wasn’t even a 3 point shot. JJ did have some valid points in that interview but without any nuance or context. Sorry, but what Jerry said is far more relevant. I’ll take what the hall of famer says over a bum like jj reddick.

[@coolintrovertedafricanteen9517]

@@vali7696 jj is more than 3 point shooter and he's way more talented than west

[@UNCfanatic50]

@@vali7696 yes he can. Half the nba in the 60s couldn’t even dribble w their off hand bro. Obviously Jerry isn’t one of them but players back then were straight ass cheeks. JJ would cook Jerry west

[@jdh9676]

The best commentary on this matter I've seen so far. Very insightful👍

[@stevecox7462]

He basically JJ to shut the hell up and go back to the bench 🤣😭

[@dennisheyes4561]

People act like fewer teams made it less competitive. The 1950 draft (Bob Cousy, taken 4th overall) included 121 college graduates drafted. Fighting for a spot on one of the 12 (not 8) teams. The 2006 Draft (J.J. Redick, taken 11th overall) included 60 people. Fighting for a spot on one of the 30 teams. 2006 had fewer drafted players (with a lower education level) fighting for more NBA roster spots. Leading to more watered down league. And the plumbers and firemen comment proves they are also harder working than you. The fact that your kind did not have to work McDonalds in your spare time to pay the bills is a direct result of the success the league has become because of the pillars it was built on.

[@jsain360]

Players in Cousy era actually had to take jobs as plumbers or car salesman in the off-season to pay bills, while players today can train year round

[@markchadee1581]

JJ taken shots at Legends, wow didn't expect that especially after enjoying his podcasts, but Thanks JJ for highlighting Bob Cousy a Legend i didn't know much of, i love watching Bob Cousy highlights this man was sick w the basketball. Jerry West is the man.

[@demonkingbadger6689]

Watching bob cousy highlights makes me realize, per his argument, jj had never watched bob cousy highlights.😉

[@CrabbyOldLady]

Absolutely the best, most realistic and well-reasoned video I have seen on the topic.

[@agnostic5870]

The real Jerry West showed up on that topic. "What did he do that determined games?" Hahaha.

[@chrisdell5679]

I've been a Duke fan all my life, and JJ Redick's personality on ESPN makes me think Maryland was always right...

[@TheJpep2424]

There's a reason duke and redick are hated.

[@1stshepherd]

If players of yesterday played today, they too would be bigger, stronger and faster. With the lack of defense played today (by comparison) they'd still be great. True basketball peeps listen when Jerry speaks. Respect for ALL professional athletes. Small group in a huge world.

[@ViewTheRightThing]

You know, that's a point that is not brought up enough. In these theoretically match ups, we often talk about how the modern players have an offensive "edge" but in reality they've traded that for diminished defensive ability. This is not the era of the on ball defender. I think it's a very interesting question. Thanks for the comment.

[@1stshepherd]

@@ViewTheRightThing ⚘️

[@oldschool5]

Beautifully said and you wrapped with some real slick talk... Niiiiice

[@ViewTheRightThing]

🙏🏾 I really appreciate the comment, I'll try to keep'em coming.

[@redhookbrooklyn1996]

JJ Reddick need to chill he’s in no one top 500 players in NBA history

[@ViewTheRightThing]

Big facts, don't box with the Logo.

[@danclarklimarez3744]

Not even top 10,000

[@lucianotecuanapa9853]

A prime Jerry West would smoke jj

[@danclarklimarez3744]

@@lucianotecuanapa9853 jerry west would smoke JJ now.

[@user-oe4wr9tn2n]

@@lucianotecuanapa9853 Respectfully no. JErry Wests legacy is better, but he is not better than JJ redick who has had 50 years of basketball knowledge to learn from. I will show you an example, sprinters from 40 years ago who held world records would loose to the worst olympic level athlete.

[@Nothereman9999]

There's so much wrong with JJs comments. He doesn't take into account that if players of the 60s played today, they'd have EVERY advantage players of today have. They'd have the same training and diet regimen, they'd have shoes with ankle support, they'd have all of that. They've actually done research on this very topic, having Usian Bolt run in the same type of sneakers as Jesse Owens. It was discovered that without his new age kicks, he couldn't hit the same speed he could today and his best time hovered around Owens best time. If players today were playing with a ball from the 60s, on 60s hoops and wearing 60s shoes, I can pretty much guarantee you'd see a major dip in their quality of play.

[@stonymontana9773]

Lol unathletic white men in the 60’s are still un athletic white men of today. 🥱. They wouldn’t make the league , too many elite athletes

[@johnnythekid4601]

@@stonymontana9773 And you yourself as an elite athlete could have easily made an NBA roster in the 60's im guessing?

[@stonymontana9773]

@@johnnythekid4601 if bob Cousy made it yes. There was no one like Durant ever and he’s not even the best player today. Athletes just better today. Get over it

[@johnnythekid4601]

@@stonymontana9773 Damn too bad you weren't born in 1938 you could have been THE GUY in the NBA everyone talks about today or EVEN THE LOGO Stony Montana instead of Jerry West as the logo?? lol I like it!

[@stonymontana9773]

@@johnnythekid4601 dude even mr bean would have dominated the old nba . You ever watch those stiffs play??? They weren’t very good

[@thirdcoastslots9394]

Just because some of the old footage is grainy black-and-white doesn't mean they weren't athletes. Oscar Robertson and Jerry West both had outstanding verticals. Video of both of them touching the top of the square of the backboard but dunking wasn't a big deal in the 60's. Also take the career of Kareem, his college/pro career spanned the 60's until 89 and he excelled at the age of 42.

[@ViewTheRightThing]

These are all such great points, people, don't let that black-and-white footage fool you. Those dude were athletic freaks.

[@Duck_Dodgers]

He didn't run the court most of his career

[@written12]

Great video. Excellent analysis at the end.

[@ViewTheRightThing]

Really appreciate that man, glad you dug the video.

[@Erock5168]

Awesome commentary!!!

[@Rcrdslns]

😂😂 that was savage by Jerry West, but necessary to educate

[@jerrypete3799]

Has jj ever played a game in the month of June ? May ? I guess his 12 points never got his team very far in the playoffs.

[@MindfulAttraction2.0]

These players are arrogant and have no respect for the guys in the past. They talk down about the people who built their sport. For example, in arts, we never talk down on the old Masters. We revere them and respect them. But the NBA for some reason has his culture of just making fun of old school players. So disrespectful. Yeah, they might say they're better than you, but if you're secure about how good you are, you will let them have their day.

[@ViewTheRightThing]

Wow that is such an amazing frickin' perspective. As an sports guy and artist I'm shocked this point never occurred to me. In the arts Jackson Pollack doesn't take shots at Da Vinci because he used old brushes. No one shades Hendrix for being Hendrix at an earlier point in rock's development. Bro, really appreciate the 🤯.

[@Djordjevicc]

Is it really the players or is it this social media generation who takes things out of context? It came off very disrespectful but at the same time he was at ESPN First Take, a shitty ass program where analist go at eachother with overdramaticized takes because they're ordered to, I don't think he truly meant to shit on that era or anything like that, he was firing back at Russo because he would take Cousey over CP3(his teammate). He wasn't entirely wrong either about the competition at that time. I mean Wilt even scored a 100 points.. now all of a sudden Jerry West comes out saying he disrespects people who laid the foundation, but it was just a comment made to show why he thinks CP3 should be above Cousey. All taken out of context by Jerry. Although JJ could have said it better, which he usually would, but yeah.. First Take.

[@Afr0Thund3r]

@@Djordjevicc "But it was just a comment made to show why he thinks CP3 should be above Cousey", fell into the trap. How many rings does Cousy have? How many times has CP3 been to the finals? It's not taken out of context at all, JJ Redick is NOT allowed to discredit Bob Cousy. Stick to playing Dead by Daylight and keep your mouth shut. JJ Redick is a role playing bum who is lucky he grew up in an era that would pay him to be as inconsistent as he is.

[@Djordjevicc]

@@Afr0Thund3r it IS being taken out of context. Jerry wants to join in saying he disrespects the people who laid the foundation, but what JJ said wasn't entirely wrong. Players in this day and age have access to and knowledge about better diets, tech, facilities, training regiments, skill, athletes are so more advanced right now than they used to be, so a comparison between Cousey and CP3 is a non debate to begin with. He could have, no he should have been more respectful about Cousey but Russo was trippin with that take and you just hate the fact that its a mid player like JJ who said it, but just because its him doesn't change anything. Cousey did a lot for the NBA and yes 6 rings is a massive accomplishment but drop a 50-60 year difference in sports evolution CP3 in that era and let him play against people who had a full time job with basketball on the side and watch what happens. Thats the point JJ is trying to make.

[@Afr0Thund3r]

@@Djordjevicc "That's the point JJ is trying to make", and this is why JJ is a fucking clown, CP3 would drive past Cousy right into BILL RUSSELL! IS THAT THE POINT HE'S TRYING TO MAKE, THAT CP3 WOULD SCORE ON BILL?! Because that's even MORE ridiculous than saying Bob Cousy doesn't get credit because of who he played against, like he never played against Wilt. People who bring up individual stats like they matter are fucking annoying. Enough out of you CLOWNS, holy shit. "Let him play against people who had a full time job with basketball on the side and watch what happens", yea, he still loses because he's a 6'0 point guard who needs teammates to pass to. It's a TEAM game. Friendly reminder that Bob Cousy actually plays defense by the way, so Chris would be harassed the entire game and if he actually manages to get past his matchup, he's gotta deal with 6'10 Bill Russell. Chris Paul shoots .369, so you tell me, would it be better to just try and jack up 3's that Cousy will not let happen unmolested, or should he just dribble past this "plumber" because Bill Russell is easier to score on than Bob Cousy? The point YOU and JJ Redick is trying to make is so nonsensical and shows exactly the ego issue the league has nowadays, the audacity to discredit Bob Cousy while talking about a player with 2 Finals appearances, while you were a player that averaged less than 5 points a quarter? Hilarious, by the way, Chris Paul's .369 3P% I mentioned automatically disappears in Bob Cousy's era, the thought of CP3 playing in that era is actually hilarious and there is no need to shit on players who were underpaid and overworked while bums like JJ Redick got overpaid to average under 15PPG his entire career.

[@dunamisbacchus]

Man great take, you just earned a subcriber

[@demonkingbadger6689]

JJ convinced me in his argument that he had evidently never heard of Bob Cousy until that very moment.

[@ViewTheRightThing]

That was my takeaway as well and typically JJ's takes are usually more thought out than that. Thanks for the comment.

[@demonkingbadger6689]

@@sablecal5919 he looked cousy up on basketball-reference.

[@demonkingbadger6689]

@@sablecal5919 ok, doesnt mean he watch any footage of Cousy.

[@demonkingbadger6689]

@@sablecal5919 didnt have the 3 in Cousy's era, so we cant judge ts% properly. But, you might have a point, except for the Cousy didnt dribble with his left hand, he actually did when he needed, though it is true he didnt often.

[@lakernation4725]

JJ's just mad because Jerry was so good that they made the logo with him!!!!

[@jakjones8680]

After Jordan and Kobe, Jerry is the best 2guard of all time!! JJ needs to pay homage to the Logo. Jerry West is the player, if you're a 2 guard and don't know about him, you can't be really good at the position. I'm willing to debate those who disagree.

[@tucansam3147]

Lol naw bro west wasn’t better then wade bro but west is definitely A top 5 SG majority have him listed as A point guard tho but . Jerry was definitely one of them guys tho at 6”1 he was A killer just couldn’t beat those stacked Boston teams .

[@jakjones8680]

@@tucansam3147 how many MVPs does Wade have?

[@tucansam3147]

@@jakjones8680 wade was definitely in the race A few times cut it out nobody is putting west over wade because he had MVP how many finals MVP west have ?

[@jakjones8680]

@@tucansam3147 well West is the only player in History to win Finals MVP, for the losing team!

[@tucansam3147]

@@jakjones8680 that’s not A good thing bro 😂😂😂

[@FilJR99]

On point! 👏🏻

[@jamesdonoghue7967]

Great video!

[@CASHMONEYBADBOY]

Awesome content this is so true especially coming from J West the legend himself !!!

[@ViewTheRightThing]

Thanks, I really appreciate that, I'll try to keep them coming. 🙏🏾 for the comment.

[@CASHMONEYBADBOY]

@@ViewTheRightThing PLEASE DO !!!

[@carlosdasilva8622]

Very well put

[@johnayers2483]

I was expecting this to be a clickbait disappointment but you came with a great argument and a well researched argument backed up with perfect clips and quotes. Hats off!

[@PrettyboyPa]

Jj will come to the defense of any player in this generation just so that they'll come on his podcast. He literally said giannis wasn't in his top 3 player in world to embiid to try and get embiid to like him and embiid had to fact check him on it like he was on drugs lol

[@bpmachete]

Was Jason Kidd a plumber? He shot around 40%, still one of the best PG of all time, just like Bob Cousy.

[@ViewTheRightThing]

Wow, the real heroes are always in the comments. I hate that I didn't add Kidd in there because it would have fit nicely. Thanks for watching and the comment.

[@bpmachete]

@Boulderbruh323 Basketball had been around for a while. The NBA took some time to integrate all races from 1950-1960 they were little by little becoming a league of the best players in the world. Before that from 1930-1950 there were separate leagues but they played world championships. By the late 50's and especially in the 1960's there were many good players. Not many teams so the players were the best in the world. So if this argument is about the people guarding them, J.J. Redick should never utter a word, because by my estimation he is the worst defender of all time. I have never seen such a bad defender and at least back then people had some defense. J.J. Redick had the worst defense of all time.

[@Afr0Thund3r]

@Boulderbruh323 The craziest thing about comments like that, guarding your man is probably the only thing you can do if you're not good on the offensive side. Jason Kidd and Bob Cousy played defense, but the people guarding them definitely thought "Well, shit, if I can't score, the LEAST I can do is make sure this motherfucker can't either", and that mentality is severely lacking in today's game. JJ Redick averaged less than 15PPG and shot above .400 from the perimeter, let's not pretend that his defense warranted such poor offensive performance, we're just in an era where expectations are different. People SHOULD demand defense from players like JJ Redick, but they'd rather just blame the coach while I watch another 100+ point game. There are definitely fans who heard "JJ Redick is getting traded" and thought "THANK GOD" lmao

[@justtry8552]

Not to mention Jason Kidd would toy JJ.

[@Afr0Thund3r]

@@justtry8552 Exactly. Jason Kidd's first chip was in 2011 with Dirk and the Mavs, but his first finals appearance was in 2003 with Dikembe and the Nets. JJ Redick was not a factor, period.

[@johnatspray]

2040: “…he was just guarded by a bunch of podcasters and tv hosts.”

[@wagzel]

Great presentation.

[@anthonyd8997]

It’s funny that jj is a plumber and a fireman himself 😆😆🧑‍🚒

[@emmanuelida4575]

Man it's a disrespect to all plumbers and fireman...one has a video game and one is still honored because what they did in 9/11...JJ is a simp

[@propanepetey3637]

look at the ball skills Cousy had this is blasphemous!

[@ViewTheRightThing]

I KNOW RIGHT?!!?! Dude was flat-out phenomenal with the ball. I appreciate the comment.

[@stanleyrogouski]

@@ViewTheRightThing If you had to start a team right now around one of two guard/forward pairs, who would you choose? Cousy/Russell Stockton/Malone My guess is Russell would have found a way to beat Michael Jordan in the finals. If there was a path to victory, he would have somehow figured it out.

[@Tormund_BeyondTheWall]

Especially compared to that clown JJ

[@Eltalstro]

"Are athletes today bigger, stronger, and faster? Yeah." Wilt rolling in his grave: "WTF?"

[@davidpadilla9468]

No they are slower less fundamentally sound

[@ceebee8042]

Redick was wrong. Those dudes could play.

[@escobarrizzay3599]

Jerry West drop the mic 🎤 on this one 😂

[@juanfranciscosantana4793]

Ben Simmons was chose # 1 overall draft pick ,was in the all- Star Game and CAN'T Made free throws and CAN'T Made 3 points shoots .the NBA Legends deserve respect .

[@ViewTheRightThing]

Such a good point, I'm kicking myself that I didn't add it in. Thanks, I appreciate the comment.

[@juanfranciscosantana4793]

@@ViewTheRightThing You welcome bro ,👊🇩🇴🏀 .

[@stephonlamar1815]

Ben Simmons is 7 FOOT TRUE POINT GUARD Who's Unselfish and can GUARD any position ‼️ That's why he went #1‼️

[@stephonlamar1815]

The 3 pointer is not the end all be all😅😂🤣👈

[@stephonlamar1815]

@@ViewTheRightThing Juan doesn't know what he's talking about ‼️That's half the story🤷‍♀️🤷‍♂️🤦🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️😅😂🤣👈

[@jeffmilligan7030]

Great analysis

[@ViewTheRightThing]

This too, is great analysis 😂😂 Thanks for watching and the comment fam.

[@billybob7853]

My top 10 60s players 10. Walt Bellamy: while overshadowed by the other great big men of the 1960s, Bellamy started off his career with one of the most dominant rookie seasons ever in 1961-1962 and earned four straight All-Star selections with averages of 23+ points and 15+ rebounds per game for the decade. 9. Jerry Lucas: one of the greatest rebounders in NBA history, Lucas was Rookie of the Year in 1963-1964 and went on to earn six straight All-Star and five consecutive All-NBA selections in the 1960s on the strength of averaging 19+ points and 19+ rebounds per game. 8. Sam Jones: second only to his teammate Bill Russell in terms of career NBA titles, Jones played his entire career with the Boston Celtics and was not only a 5x All-Star and 3x All-NBA player who averaged 19+ points and 5+ rebounds per game in the 1960s, but perhaps was best-known for coming through in the clutch in the playoffs, winning nine of his 10 championships during the decade. 7. Hal Greer: a 9x All-Star and 7x All-NBA selection in the 1960s, Greer was a dynamic all-around player who posted averages of 21+ points, 5+ rebounds, and 4+ assists per game for the decade while helping lead the Philadelphia 76ers to a title in 1966-1967. 6. Bob Pettit: one of the league’s first superstars, Pettit earned All-Star and All-NBA honors every season of his career (6x in the 1960s up to his retirement) with averages of 27+ points and 16+ rebounds per game for the decade. 5. Jerry West: immortalized as the silhouette of the NBA’s logo, West was an All-Star every year of the decade he played (9x) and All-NBA 8x on 27+ points, 6+ rebounds, and 5+ assists per game, and remains the only player in league history to win Finals MVP in a losing effort. 4. Elgin Baylor: a 9x All-Star and All-NBA selection during the 1960s, Baylor was one of the most dominant players of the decade, averaging 28+ points, 13+ rebounds, and 4+ assists for the decade; at the same time, however, his Los Angeles Lakers lost each of their NBA Finals matchups vs. the rival Celtics. 3. Oscar Robertson: the first player to average a triple-double over a full season, Robertson was a dynamic playmaker who led the league in assists 6x and actually averaged a triple-double over his first five NBA seasons (29+ points, 8+ rebounds, and 10+ assists per game for the 1960s); during the decade, he started off as Rookie of the Year and was also a 9x All-Star/All-NBA selection who won the 1963-1964 MVP award. 2. Bill Russell: the lynchpin of nine championship Celtics teams in the 1960s, Russell was an annual All-Star and All-NBA player until his retirement in 1969 - with averages of 14+ points and 22+ rebounds per game, he led the league in rebounding twice and won four MVP titles for the decade. 1. Wilt Chamberlain: famous for his record 100-point game and his rivalry with Russell, Chamberlain was a man among boys during his time, averaging an incredible 34+ points (7x scoring champion) and 24+ rebounds per game (8x rebounding champion) for the decade - his accolades during the 1960s include Rookie of the Year, All-Star and All-NBA selections every year, and four MVP awards Without these players there wouldn't be no Micheal jordan,magic johnson, kobe bryant, or lebron james because who would inspire their idles? In the 10 or 20 years people will say lebron played against Podcasters, tic tockers, and gamers

[@ViewTheRightThing]

There's some guys on this list that I'd never heard of. Now I've got some digging to do. I really appreciate this comment. This is the type of real basketball talk that this channel was built on. Thanks for the comment.

[@billybob7853]

@@ViewTheRightThing no problem.

[@the6thfloor33]

Respect Mr. West.

[@lightingbolt8148]

The logo with facts, JJ was an average role play that Averaged 12 pts

[@lucasvilly]

Ive never thought of JJ as an elite player in the nba but he was definitely a great shooter but he is knowledgeable on basketball and i enjoy his takes.

[@joselopezjctrainer]

Jerry West( The NBA Logo) averaged 27 PPG and Bob Cousey averaged 18.4 PPG without a 3 point line. J.J. Reddick averaged 12.8 PPG and was never an allstar while West and Cousey were perenial allstars. J.J. should check the stats of the Plumbers before making his comments.🔥🏀⭐🏆

[@Duck_Dodgers]

West average went up in the playoffs

[@tchai91]

It’s such a myth that the players now are faster and more athletic. Just go and watch a game from the 80s…..it actually takes me a few minutes to get my bearings and get used to the pace of the games compared to the modern game. They flew up and down the court

[@supergreat88]

Just subscribed bro, great video

[@ViewTheRightThing]

Heck Yea, Welcome to the Tribe bro. Feel free to weigh in with the rest of us whenever, everyone here is pretty chill and loves basketball.

[@cherylturner1352]

Excellent points.....

[@davidmeza3157]

Bedtime for JJ. He got too close to the sun.

[@torrinbianchi5283]

Huh?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@renatoruiz8534]

JJ be like "those guys back then couldn't make 3 point shots!"

[@demonkingbadger6689]

Hard to make something that doesnt exist.😉

[@Tormund_BeyondTheWall]

Great video.

[@ViewTheRightThing]

Heck yea, we Free Folk approved now! Thanks for watching and the comment.

[@Tormund_BeyondTheWall]

@@ViewTheRightThing lol

[@3rdstreetreactions]

Hey nice video but where is that Ted talks link in the description?

[@K_N_Jsquad]

Defense was way different back in the day to people where getting smacked out the air with no foul calls now if you tap a shooter on the shoulder it’s a foul

[@MG-yj6lo]

JJ isnt even in the same league as Cousy and West. 😆 He's the plumber of this era. A glorified specialist, all he could do is shoot the 3.

[@jakedesnaque8910]

He has even been blocked one-on-one by a not so athletic & a not strong enough pg smaller than him - Wardell Stephen Curry! 😅

[@WiltChamberlainArchive]

Great take!

[@misterschubert3242]

There is one thing I'll say about the NBA 60, 40 years ago that isn't true about it now. 40 years ago everyone was watching it, and we're still talking about the legends from 60 years ago. Nobody really gaf about it now.

[@KSlayZZ]

I’ve always been a JJ fan on the court and especially off the court. But my guy JJ definitely was trippin. I’m tryna figure out why West decided to go for the kill shot when the beef was settled 😂😂

[@troyjones2358]

Had to straighten out the young punk.

[@mikehoward9211]

JJ is NBA star? Are you kidding? Wasn't he mainly a bench warmer?

[@kendrickjackson434]

He was a former NBA player not star it's a huge difference

[@DaleDaSnail420xXx]

“AJ should be very thankful” LMFAO!!!!

[@tucansam3147]

I remember when JJ made that comment i said then he was tripping because if you dropped Cousy and west in todays game they would still get buckets . I hate when people say that about wilt like oh there was only 8 teams so are we suppose to punish them for the era they played in ? The shit crazy af normally I agree with JJ but he was wrong with that comment.

[@jsain360]

Right, I go with the counter argument, with 8 teams, would JJ Reddick be in the league or would he be a plummer or fireman

[@DarktoWn4L]

Imagine if bron got to play 8 teams? Oh my bad we can all go one way but never the other.

[@jsain360]

@@DarktoWn4L with 8 teams, it would be the best of the best, that is point, and JJ might not be on a team

[@user-bh5xo1lo9s]

Nooo lol Cousy and west would be at best be bench players

[@tucansam3147]

@@jsain360 😂😂😂😂😂

[@marcus3490]

Jj is a plumber so how tf can he talk

[@ViewTheRightThing]

And more of a Wario than even a Luigi at that 😂 Thanks for the comment.

[@chitownbear7733]

That’s right Bob. If you want with the smoke with the old school, they got the lighter and the gasoline

[@offendciv2933]

"they played with podcasters and tv show hosts"... earned the sub. Good stuff

[@ViewTheRightThing]

Thanks bro, Love the name btw.

[@offendciv2933]

@@ViewTheRightThing Thanks man, keep up the hard work!!

[@josuasanjosuasan7322]

People in 2060 or 2070 will see Lebron or MJ played against plumbers and fireman too.... Maybe in that era there re no more 6'0-6'4 PG.. maybed in 2060's The shortest PG is 6'6 or 6'7... Then they would said, look Lebron or MJ just played against a bunch of kids... Every era has its own advantage and disadvantage

[@ViewTheRightThing]

Exactly! Thanks for the comment

[@Djordjevicc]

Yeah but Cousey did actually play against people who had a job next to basketball whereas LeBron and MJ didn't. It wasn't just purely disrespect, it was factual.

[@royjohnson1747]

This is why any all time great player can play in any era no matter the circumstances. That arguement won't be made to lebron or jordan. Most people still have jordan dominating this era. The same thing will be said for lebron 20 years later

[@NothingElseMattersJM]

@@Djordjevicc Would JJ Redick have a 2nd job if he was getting paid 40k a year ?

[@Djordjevicc]

@@NothingElseMattersJM he absolutely would, but that's not the point. He's comparing the two era's because Russo thinks Cousey is better than CP3. If JJ played in that era as the player he is/was in this era he would light it up. If those players back then played with the knowledge, diets, training regiments we have now they could dominate too. But what he said is not wrong, albeit a little disrespectful the way he delivered it.

[@stanleyrogouski]

Bill Russell would be the GOAT in any era. Kareem convinced me of that. The mental discipline that let him win 11 rings would still be there. I don't think there's any other athlete in any other era that was so completely dominant. More interesting questions. 1.) 22-year-old Paul Robeson taking Rob Gronkowski's place on the Brady-era Patriots. 2.) Prime 5'10" Mike Tyson against 6'10" Tyson Fury. 3.) Larry Bird in the 3-point contest against Steph Curry. 4.) Babe Ruth in a non-segregated league. 5.) Dave Schultz and the 1970s Philadelphia Flyers in a street fight against Charles Oakley, Rick Mahon and Nikola Jokic's brothers, weapons being equal.

[@ViewTheRightThing]

WOW! Those are all fascinating questions bro, I appreciate it and don't be surprised if we cover or two. 🙏🏾 for the comment.

[@Djordjevicc]

Honestly I think Fury himself would even tell ya that Mike would win that one.

[@stanleyrogouski]

@@Djordjevicc I thought George Foreman vs. Joe Frazier showed what happens when a great big guy fights a great little guy.

[@Afr0Thund3r]

@@stanleyrogouski No, that's the point of taking a step back and understanding variables without speaking in absolutes. Ali beat Foreman, Foreman beat Frazier, Frazier beat Ali. Who's better than who? No definitive way to actually answer that question and there NEVER will be. Ali beat Foreman by shelling up on the ropes, Foreman beat Frazier by keeping him out with his reach, and Frazier beat Ali by weaving and using the shotgun that was his left hook. If you're actually a sports fan, you should really watch all those boxers I just named go through their respective bouts, they were prizefighters and did not reach fame by knocking bums over. A true boxing fan will hear "Prime Mike Tyson vs Prime Tyson Fury" and respond "Do you really think Tyson Fury could beat Buster Douglas?", and if you don't know who Buster Douglas is, this is why I make a distinction between a fan of a sport and a spectator. A boxing fanatic wouldn't disrespect Mike by putting him in the same sentence with Tyson Fury, a TRUE basketball fanatic wouldn't disrespect Bob Cousy by putting him in the same sentence as CP3, a guy who's only made 2 finals appearances. Keep in mind, basketball's a team sport and boxing isn't, but both sports have spectators who think they're fans. (Buster Douglas was the first guy to knock out Mike Tyson, go watch the fight, really, you won't regret it)

[@RaysDad]

Just look at the stats of professional golfers. Fifty years ago Arnold Palmer would hit a 270 yard drive and the fans would be amazed at his power. Today that's a short drive. It's all about the equipment.

[@chadshumway9951]

Very well said.

[@hmrhuang]

Reddick was a "NBA star"?......🤨🤨🤨🤔🤔🤔🙄🙄🙄

[@ViewTheRightThing]

Good point, 😂😂👀👀😲😅😅😅😅 Well said bro. Thanks for the comment.

[@UnivegaSuperSport]

Props to JJ for continuing to display the character and integrity coach K instilled in his players. His ability to take privileged white boys and send them to the NBA completely unchanged, un-humbled and universally hated is truly HOF material.

[@demonkingbadger6689]

To be fair i do tend to pull for Duke, as their are way too many UNC fans in my area. I dont enjoy doing so, and only for those 2-3 games that year.

[@stevedeland7048]

Who will remember JJ redick in 50 pluse.years. like they remember Cousy and West etc.

[@StevenC32]

The NBA game has evolved, I started watching the NBA back in the 70s when there was no 3 point shot, and when players were given 3 chances to make 2 free throws. Back in the 70s, the biggest plays were to dump the ball down low to the center, and if he was doubled teamed the center would kick it out to a guard or forward for an easy 10 to 15 foot shot. There weren't a lot of shots from 20 or more feet back then, but there were a few guards who could shoot from 20 feet and beyond with accuracy. Now you have a lot of guys that can shoot from 25 feet or more more with great frequency and accuracy, making the center position less dominant than it was back in the 70s and 80s. The game is much faster paced today, and much more free flowing action, because guards have to extend their defense out further because of the 3 point shot, it allows offenses to get more open shots with the screens and constant ball movement.

[@darrylturner4566]

JJ was not a star, role player only.

[@ViewTheRightThing]

Yeah he rolled off screens for his whole career 😂 Thanks for the comment.