FPS Controller NO ONE is talking about! | Hall Effect 1k Polling Rate

[@Flydigi]

Thank you all for your love and support for our product. We are committed to exploring innovative features on our controller that can bring revolutionary changes and better serve the gaming community. In the future, we will continue to incorporate more innovative technologies into our controllers, so stay tuned!

[@ArtisWar]

Thank you for the wonderful product! Would love to chat more about this!

[@sonofgodraj]

Start using the buttons in-between the triggers like razer does and the rainbow 2 pro. Thanks in advance.

[@SAVAGEwarzone]

Put actual trigger stops on the apex 4 versions

[@TL-in1lm]

Mouse click triggers would make it the perfect controller.

[@Frankieadz]

Vadar 4 Pro please...

[@PeytonRobinson]

Finally, a KZbinr not paid off by Scuf. The Flydigi controllers are light-years ahead of the top "Elite" controllers. Game changers.

[@chuike5222]

One of the major reasons I wouldn’t consider this is that they do not have the thumbsticks in the PlayStation style that Ive been using all my life. The company is the one short handing themselves by only producing the Xbox style variant.

[@SAVAGEwarzone]

@@chuike5222that’s not true this one I use ps ones the galaxy’s work perfect a little snug but they fit

[@SAVAGEwarzone]

Once I learned about this controller I will never buy from any other company this is another level of good

[@TheMaticus06]

He gets paid by big streamers to "fix" their audio equipment. In other words he is paid to help streamers cheat.

[@killshot3331]

@@SAVAGEwarzoneWhich ps controller sticks do you use?

[@TrueGameData]

This controller made my stick drift if you know what i'm sayin

[@ArtisWar]

It's true, I gave him these sticks in SECRET >:)

[@fredc8618]

Dadiii

[@joeyjuiice]

Great right after I buy a 199 turtle beach stealth because my elite series 2 input delay on PC was annoying me. Here’s a video for a new controller!

[@patrickhawkins-The_BiG_HawK]

THE MAN THE MYTH THE LEGEND. Big Tony!!! Thanks for all you and Art do for the community!

[@tomtomthebull]

Lol

[@xwpztheignis6510]

First video I see of you. You seem so genuine about your excitement for the controller, love it

[@ArtisWar]

Im an oversized child with a beard lol

[@Blueberry_B05]

Bad ass review Art! I’m glad you were able to join the scene! Hope you’re able to be successful in this gaming world. I’ve been looking for a new controller to get out of the Xbox elite. Hope to see more gaming tech reviews soon. I’d love to see monitor suggestions too! Hope to see some big name sponsors. You deserve it!

[@pjslon9219]

This pad not only fixes sensor stick drift with hall effect sensors, but also loosened spring stick drift. It's mechanical solution to the latter is quite ingenious, look up VK's videos on Apex 4.

[@ChrisAdams180]

excellent video!!! Thank you for all the time you put into this game, and all that you do for the community!

[@Simon_Hawkshaw]

For about a 1/3 of the price, I got the GameSir G7 SE wired controller and found a world of difference. Thank you for the introduction to this controller. I may just have to upgrade for the joystick tension alone! Your time, efforts, and sharing this with us all are greatly appreciated.

[@josemartinez3651]

The gamesir g7 se is so good for the price I also put 2 screws on the back of the triggers and it gave me a trigger lock such an easy mod for a better experience, but I also have the apex 4 and wow I totally recommend it

[@Simon_Hawkshaw]

@josemartinez3651 Thank you for your recommendation and taking the time to reply. Much appreciated. I shall certainly consider the Apex 4

[@imsteadyjoe]

I've been using this controller for a few months, and it's insanely good. The slightly lower priced Vader 3 Pro is also VERY good, especially for the price.

[@sonofgodraj]

Waiting for a Vader 3 Pro to be delivered. Got it off aliexpress for 44 dollars with a case.

[@imsteadyjoe]

@@sonofgodrajit’s unbelievably good. The trigger locks are better than the apex 4 triggers as well.

[@sonofgodraj]

@@imsteadyjoe Ngl I'm curious to try the apex later on for the 1000 hz but I think I'll be alright with 500 hz for now. I'm currently using the scuf envision pro and despite some of what he showed I still feel like it's an amazing controller.

[@willy7968]

@@sonofgodraj the least I saw is $58

[@sonofgodraj]

@@willy7968 not looking hard enough. Just saw 1 for 46 without coupons

[@S2GamingUk]

Great review Bro appreciated as been looking at this on Amazon for a while now

[@iF3ARHD]

Have you found any on Amazon from uk?

[@RealZacharyLee]

I just ordered one of these to try for myself. My PC controller experience so far has been: Xbox Elite 2: awesome feeling controller but super laggy and inaccurate in game. Victrix Gambit: Low latency - Definitely Snappy - but cheap feeling over all - especially the sticks and back buttons. Scuf Envision - Extra buttons are awesome but iCue is buggy and crashes often. I had to redeem my warranty because my first one bricked thanks to firmware updates. Scuf sent me a new one but it definitely feels slow but not as slow as my Elite 2. Great Ergonomics though. Love the way it melts into my hands. Flydigi Apex 4: We'll SEE!

[@1SlyGuy]

After two months what do you think?

[@RealZacharyLee]

@@1SlyGuy great question. I went back to my Scuf envision after a couple weeks because i missed the sax buttons and feeling of the grip. The scuf envision started to lag and randomly shut down. I went back to the Digifly about 3 weeks ago and will never look back. It’s just so damn responsive and premium.

[@buckmeat]

Dammit Art 😭 you convinced me to buy the envision and now you're telling me it's terrible. Just bought the Apex, thanks for the video as always. ❤

[@wittytut3445]

Noice! I wish more controllers would do this. Changing the tension is wild too. I like how big those buttons are. Remapping is GOATED.

[@oordnave]

As usual, thanks for your suggestion Art. I've bought this controller and I'm really happy with the quality and my gameplay also improved a lot.

[@F34RALI]

Bro I love this content u doing you should do more stuff like this cause it really helped me I had a ps5 for a good while and I had it set to 8k polling and u just saved my PC resources tysm I love that someone actually test it and we know for sure now

[@ArtisWar]

Thank YOU!

[@itsblixzy]

Been waiting for this 💯

[@vitaminbp1]

Thank you for the video! Interesting info, I am really partial to my xbox elite 2, the paddle placement and the physical trigger stops I really love, the paddle placement fits my finger position perfectly. However I love everything you mentioned about this controller so I'm going to try it out. Concerned about the back buttons/paddles and how they are placed, but maybe once I get it that won't be an issue, but I love the joystick construction, sounds fantastic!

[@playerOG420]

Just bought one rn! Thanks for the vid 🙏🏻

[@usernamenotfound7479]

Call of “Lame” mentioned yhu in a video saying yhur doing harm to the CoD Community from yhur Audio EQs 😂😂😂 Keep doing wat yhu do Art. The community needs yhu 🙌🏽i been in the market for a pro controller

[@ArtisWar]

🤭

[@matthewmilantoni3961]

I’ve been using it for 2 months! My jam!!!!

[@shfd3832]

Adaptive triggers and Haptic feedback?

[@Ashes2Ashes]

Love the breakdown and review, very in-depth! I do find it funny that a few mention the Xbox style layout, and that it may turn many players off. On PC, Steam specifically, their analytics show the Xbox layout dominates, so would assume the majority would actually love this.

[@Bobber_dlrh_2x]

I think I’ll give it a try to switch back from m&k after years of using it. Thx art for this review 👍🏼

[@FlaKKoG]

Like this gaming hardware content bro! Keep it coming! 👊🏼

[@nikkorush293]

Gulikit controller is the first controller I used with magnet sticks like this.. loved it but had to learn claw as it didn't have back buttons. Magnet sticks with 0 deadzone settings on cod are insanely precise and give you nasty AR shots in ranked modes. If I ever get back into COD I'll order this controller. 💪

[@littlebear4543]

I’m grateful for this review. I’m gonna give it a try for sure. Seems like the controller I’ve been looking for, not sure if the paddles will work for me as I hold my controller in a very specific way but I do see people are making custom paddles for these for 20$ so may give those a try if needed. Thanks for the vid

[@FlyTy757]

Art you the man, just got my AP4!

[@JayJersey]

This is gonna be perfect for me. I'm just diving into PC gaming from Mobile and after buying a bunch of mouse and key gear I find out a controller is what I really need.

[@digital_steve]

Banger video. Can’t wait to see to you branch out from solely audio stuff.

[@shadedstep7627]

Went ahead and ordered one the scuff envision has made me lose full too many times with the terrible software lol. Great vid man

[@i_Lndr]

I use the Gamesir G7 SE that has Hall effect sticks on my xbox ss. Excellent controller and great value for money, has definitely improved my game play over the Series elite 2.

[@willy7968]

what makes it better than the elite series 2? I understand the price bias

[@roqqor]

Thank you for this.

[@kaamick1]

Perfect test! Had/have both ms elite, evil controller,Razer ultimate, ++ Fell in love with Scuf Envision pro, but it became unstable and allmost useless after 2-3 months:-( Ordered Apex 4, and my opinion,The Best controller you can get! Have ordered vader 4 pro, and looking forward to try it:-)) Thanks for confirming my experience :-))

[@user-om4wm6pt2u]

Thank you 😊 Artiswar

[@leepay]

I have friends currently in a nightmare dealing with Aim Controllers over how awful their Hall effects controllers are. Hopefully these don’t have the same issues.

[@123-g1u]

Bro, vader v3 pro and this one are incredible good scuff are totally trash in front of this brand controllers.

[@joshuaseda]

Just bought one! Nice vid. And a huge fan of mrfijiwiji!

[@TDBButGodDid]

GOAT ART STRIKES AGAIN

[@mendozamusic5841]

This guy it's becoming my favorite KZbin guy ! 🎉❤

[@AbsoluteWorst_]

Thank you Art!

[@dwandelco7078]

About to get mines tomorrow and I'll leave a comment about it after i use compared to the scuf envision that I've been using recently.

[@Zmann966]

Missed one of the nicest parts of the software: On-Board Macros! I have two of my back paddles mapped for my Souls flasks on the dpad! Y+DpadLeft and Y+DpadRight, one-click heal without taking your thumb off the stick. But seriously, best controller I've found, and I've been searching for a looong time.

[@OKBUDDY21]

This is crazy because I’ve been seeing this controller around all over and wonder why is none of the cod KZbinrs/streamers talking about this.

[@itsblixzy]

Been using an Elite 2 (horrible, I know) for almost 3 years and while it’s actually held up well I’ve recently been looking at the options from Scuf and BB. It was concerning how many stories people had about controllers that broke quickly or showed up with problems and took forever to be replaced (especially with the price tags). I’ve seen this controller mentioned before, but the Scuf and BB chokehold is so strong that people quickly laugh off the idea of a comparable option being available at such a low cost. Coming from the elite 2, keeping the Xbox layout and adjustable stick tension is going to be quite nice. Without the Hall effect sticks or adjustable tension it seems from your tests that this still outperforms the big guys, those bonuses and the price (almost 1/3 of an envision pro with no customization shipped to Canada) make it seem like a no brainer really. Thanks for the great video Art!

[@timmypowers5926]

Scuf is good imo iv had 4 and they all still working impact fps is my favorite layout but I'm about to get the envision pro while it's on sale they fixed the software now so hopefully it'll be good they have white ones for 150 I don't like white but fuck it ya know

[@12dunner12]

I know more ppl have had issues with Scuf than not. Not saying Scuf's can't last, but it's luck of the draw, which isn't worth it.

[@playerOG420]

Envision pro is good, but unfortunately after 3 months my thumbsticks suffer stick drift. I'm thinking to buy this one. ​@@timmypowers5926

[@Roweyy]

What is bad about the elite2?

[@itsblixzy]

@@Roweyy Main issue with xbox controllers (including the elites) is they're locked to 125hz polling rate. If you look at the tests and comparisons art did, there's a substantial gap between the Apex 4 and Envision, but if you were to compare the Envision to the Elite 2 it would be an even wider gap, putting the apex 4 miles ahead of it. Compared to one test in Arts vid, your avg latency of the Apex 4 is .96ms, Envision is 2.05ms, and my Elite 2 tests at 7.95ms.

[@michaeltsang5317]

Thanks Art for the controller recommendation. Just bought the controller. Just got one question, How do I fix the tension of the joystick to be neutral (I.e. linear with no tuning whatsoever)

[@timmypowers5926]

Appreciate the video man i am always feeling like im getting bad latency from somewhere idk if its my pc or monitor, controller, internet, or just my head just one question was the testing for the envision done before or after the software update? Hope you have a good night tho thank ya again

[@littlebear4543]

Yo I had the same issue with the envision. The sticks were just off on them. I simply couldn’t get used to it. I just couldn’t make the micro adjustments, they felt cheap like you said.

[@MrSonny208]

Im glad that you involved the envision here cause i feel this delay ist tested but did not find the right number on the internet till now. I love the envision pro as well, specially those G buttons to mute discord but I will get one of this

[@Nick46914]

What do you bind to mute just discord but not mic?

[@henriqueoliveiragobi9265]

Amazing! Please do a gameplay with this controller!!

[@monamack8848]

So cool, another option thanks for the info

[@chrispana220]

Had my scuf reflex thumbsticks upgraded to Hall effect pro sticks and stick drift is a thing of the past, literally future proofed and whenever there’s any sign of them losing their centre, there’s a procedure to calibrate them. I run 0 dead zone in call of duty with zero issues and has completely transformed my play style. Highly recommend

[@HazyChris_1]

How did you do this?

[@killshot3331]

Curious as well

[@TrenBarry]

finally an Xbox layout controller with good paddle placement and low latency. thank you for this! i think you might've just convinced everyone watching this video to buy this masterpiece of a controller lol

[@TriszSZN]

I have a question, I see in all the reviews the input latency being praised of this controller, but on the gamepadle website, the cable latency for the flydigi apex4 appears to be twice as high as the dual sense. Is this correct? What are your thoughts on that? Because when I see youtubers testing with xinput, the flydigi apex4 scores better every time?

[@-demiurge-8398]

I hope to see an explanation to this as well. This is the only thing preventing me from buying this controller. Especially considering he supposedly used their software in his some of his testing.

[@smokyx]

gg! Also great to see you collab w/ Tony!

[@okayradical]

i played on ps layout all my life but have been vibing with xbox layout for last few weeks

[@austinperez4028]

I absolutely love upgrading my mouse an keyboard never existing drift is perfection

[@ZeroKTVs]

Awesome Recommendation, I will buy any controller from just specific store per state, as they have a really good insurance coverage, I have been using xbox elite 2 with back paddle from Scuff, never stick drift but I'm down for an upgrade

[@Ripeness]

This is the controller that r/controller enthusiasts use - this Vader 3 Pro and KK3 Max with good QC

[@SAVAGEwarzone]

I’ve had the apex 4 since its come out it’s amazing , I’m Eva version is so nice !!! I thinking of picking up another one the sticks are like no other controller

[@Redpandafan5000]

copped it just on sight, thanks brother

[@Chevalerie2cool]

What would be a really big controller changer is if there was some way to prevent your charger port from shorting out. That was the biggest thing i hated about wireless and wired controllers was worrying about if the cord was gonna break or the port was gonna get messed up

[@NovA_UK]

I ordered mine from AliExpress. Took less than a week to get shipped to the UK. Only paid £64 for it. I've had a Dualsense edge and an Elite Series 2 in the past. This controller is easily the best controller out of the 3 and makes you realise just how overpriced the other controllers are.

[@joee.palmerr]

can you get me a link for that please brother🙏

[@revelmania]

if this was ps4 layout i would instantly cop

[@gedxavier876]

I'm using the apex4 controller. The first time I held and used it, I immediately sold the PS5 controller in a few days :)). Apex 4 is really worth buying if anyone can afford it and experiencing what I said will not disappoint you. Once you play with the apex4 controller, you won't want to use anything else

[@ArtisWar]

THIS THIS THIS!

[@killshot3331]

Did you have paddles on the ps5 controller? I use a scuf reflex fps with 4 paddles and was curious about the paddle placement difference

[@gedxavier876]

@@killshot3331 The two paddles closest to my hand press easily and fit my hand. It depends on how long or short your arm is, I can't say that exactly

[@killshot3331]

@@gedxavier876 Okay cool yeah I’m sure they’ll just take some time adjusting to as well as the Xbox layout. Thanks

[@iiEraaa]

Alright I AM SOLD! Ordering mine right now

[@Zack-dw5op]

Literally everyone has been talking about the apex 4 and hall effect lol. Great video though, very detailed

[@jad1920]

Welcome to the Club I just got a flydigi vader 3 pro for 67 bucks, totally worth it, the back buttons are my quam as they are slightly uncomfortable for me but nothing crazy happy you tried this one. Lets see what the vader 4 pro looks like, also flydigi if you are watching please make a dualsense layout controller. Good work Art.

[@JDubs911]

I'll try it just because it's hard to find buttons placed properly for my big ass hands, thanks for the recommendation.

[@123-g1u]

I cant tell you its not good for big hand for me its the perfect controller try to look around another one with paddles

[@matic508]

Your Welcome! camt believe you actually bought it and gave it a shot after you hoooked up my audio

[@fataldragon69]

Great review and even better controller.....Nice !! Quick question.....If I'm using it on my Xbox Series--X, how do I Re-Map the Buttons, does it work on the console like the original microsoft elite series 2 or do I need to plug it into my p.c any time I want to map buttons ??? Thanks in Advance for Any Help / Info !!

[@dolphpaperroute6362]

I have a Vader 3 Pro.. the Apex looks legit and I know the Vader 3 Pro only has 500hz poll rate but I love it tbh. I heard the Vader Pro 3 is better than the regular Vader and it works great. I was so sick of getting expensive/custom controllers spending a bag on them and getting drift months after owning it. Only DS4 I would get now is from HYPR, they are the 1st company putting HE sticks in the DS4 to where they're already installed and you don't have to do it yourself and then they come with BattleBeaver style back buttons/mouse click face buttons and trigger stops you can even choose placement of back buttons.

[@juansotelo3996]

Good review but there is a lot to cover about that brand, for example, you can play on consoles using it, you should set the deazone better, that setting you showed is problematic... etc, but good job in general

[@joevonieperez7321]

Yea i dont touch my envision anymore honestly they need to get rid of icue and collaborate with a new software or make there own because the controller is just amazing especially for us ps5 controller users

[@tomhucks]

I got mine in 12 days from Aliexpress and it’s my favourite controller.

[@mikeernst8374]

The Dualsense Edge also has a 1000 polling rate with no over clock.

[@CoopersSpecC]

Buyer beware - Got my Apex 4 on Saturday, playing with it for about an hour and it's broken already on Sunday. The left stick has broken a piece of plastic on the mechanism. Not an isolated incident, one guy on reddit is on his third.

[@mintyemerald3935]

Best part is you can easily find this for less than $150 which is a steel for a pro controller like this

[@oumac]

The joystick tension feature is insane, but the lack of trigger stop is kind of sad. hope they had it with the apex 5. Cause the feature is on the flydiji Vader 3 pro . that cost less but they don't have joystick tension setting. So could be a nice choice to for people with a lower budget, and still has hall effect joystick =)

[@Liaomiao]

Considerably cheaper option is the Flydigi Vader 3 pro It doesn't have some of the most advanced features, but it is also excellent, and about half the price.

[@patrickhawkins-The_BiG_HawK]

Wish I would of know about this thing a year ago lol. Bought dualsense edge using wired on PC. I am going to go lower my OC from 8k to 1k tonight. Art thanks for the great review and testing! I tried to follow the Twitter about this 8k vs 1k silliness and after first couple posts its all "by feel opinions lol" I'd love to see some other software than I use to see my own results. Feel like since xpad or w.e. it's called was older for 360 controllers think it could be skewing results one way or the other.... just a thought. Have a great 1 Art and thanks again.

[@Spartakus_1]

Thanks Art, i would love to see the new turtle beach Stealth Ultra controller and a Xbox Elite V2 added to this test but also a screen showing a chart with each controllers price and their scoring against one another. Im a casual gamer so this was interesting to see but im not a gigasweat so things like price and functionality means more than how fast the controller is. So taking some of these into account for casual gamers in mind too would be appreciated

[@KalebandPups3DShop]

Another reason to buy it a week ago I got mine from Amazon same-day shipping ordered it got it three hours later on sale for 130

[@Dr0pl3er1]

Great video as always Art! Might give this a try just because I love to see the overpriced custom controller brands eat shit

[@captmos]

Art, thanks for another great suggestion. Just received it, and i was wondering what's your deazone inputs inside the game ? Especially for the left stick min , right stick min and for the left and right trigger .

[@ArtisWar]

66 max left stick, 99 max right stick 0 min on both

[@ickilla]

Halleffect sticks can still get drift albeit not as common but can definitely still happen also halleffects If not calibrated properly will preform worse then normal sticks just depends on the company

[@alford35]

My Turtle Beach controller sucks bad. Left bumper is dead, sticks get stuck causing drift slightly but there, and it totally disconnects from its wireless base causing me to not be able to play until reset the base. If I plug it in hard wired when this happens it still doesn’t work. So hopefully this one is way better.

[@heavymetalmak]

totally laughed about the hat for a solid 5 minutes. thought it said "Chads"

[@rockydella68]

Im in love with the Razer Wolver ultimate controller. I wonder how that one compares?

[@MrJhawk27]

Purchased! Tired of sending in my Elite 2 controllers to be fixed every 6 months or so. Sure hope I like it like you do. Thanks for the thorough video.

[@codycroosh3073]

Same. Bumper always went out.

[@erikhernandez3418]

The back buttons on the elite are top tier though, I just did the same 🫡

[@Bluefani357]

where did you get it from i cant find it on amazon :(

[@codycroosh3073]

@@Bluefani357 i just looked in USA Amazon. It’s there. Flydigi apex 4

[@codycroosh3073]

@@Bluefani357 if ur not in the states it’s harder to get. Haven’t found it on german amazon or canada

[@RyanSmith-do7zr]

Which is better. Vader 4 pro or this apex? Thanks and can you use it on Xbox and pc?

[@MrJhawk27]

The affiliate link above provided by Art works for me. It’s going to be delivered tomorrow.

[@ozzy7455]

I know aesthetics shouldn't matter but the one thing about that controller I really don't like after trying it out is just how it feels in my hands and then how it looks. Otherwise I really did like the hall effect control or analogs. It does seem to be built pretty darn well as well. I just struggle because I like the analogs in the middle or PlayStation style and that's why I still use my PlayStation edge controller more. With the back buttons I do wish the edge had four but I do like how they're placed better. I have had several scuff controllers the last one I had I really enjoyed it loved the button presses the clicky mouse buttons but it just doesn't matter because their controllers never last. They just don't last much more than a year and they won't warranty their stuff for very long. I do think one thing a lot of people don't mention about say the elite series 2 Xbox controller is that it also had adjustable tension. I will say the controller your reviewing the hall effect analogs felt about as good as anything I've ever used before. I guess I should rephrase that they did feel the best of any analog controller I've ever used. If the sticks were both in the middle I probably would still be using it. I will say the feel of the controller isn't my favorite I don't know how to explain it it just didn't feel the greatest of my hands it didn't have a nice grip to it that I generally like it felt like it was built well but at the same time how I held it it felt cheaper if that makes sense. But if someone likes the Xbox layout to a controller this one is definitely a controller to try out I recommended highly. Every controller has its pluses and minuses but this one had a lot of positives

[@codycroosh3073]

Hell, yeah more people are jumping on this bandwagon. I’ve been using this controller for about three months now. Actually bought a second one for my brother that’s how much I liked it. I tried the scuff and vision and I just couldn’t get down with it. The Xbox elite controller had too many issues with the right bumpers. This controller is the goat.

[@ArtisWar]

No lies detected.

[@dsavemee1968]

Mine broke and lasted only 4 days lol, was messing with stick tension a lil, left stick was loose but not that much, and it completely broke, I'm trying to get it returned right now. The controller itself is sick, but well, I'm going back to aimcontroller 😂 If you want any tips, just don't put stick tension too loose or too tight

[@EnTerPlays]

dude ive had this controller for over a month, why give everyone the sauce???

[@killshot3331]

It’s kind of his thing lol. Plus why gatekeep a good controller and let everybody keep paying $200+ for a worse product from a big company?

[@XTippmanX]

Great vid Art!

[@ArtisWar]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@highroller328]

I took the risk and bought my on Ali express for 70 dollars and it came in two days ago with about a week and a half of shipping and everything works as expected not even damage to the box it came in

[@TristinDL]

If Flydigi would drop this exact controller with mouse click triggers and rumbles removed it would be perfect

[@shfd3832]

Why rumbles removed?

[@andrw265]

Stick drift is not a bad thing if the game allows you to fully control controller settings

[@JayJersey]

Thank you for the Review. I just bought one to learn how to play Warzone on. I'm a mouse and key player but I need to learn controller due to the over powered aim assist in game.

[@HiImOranges]

Welp I’m sold lol ima be ordering this today or tomorrow, I prefer back buttons over paddles and I have been kinda looking for something with more tension on the sticks, been a plumber for years so these pipe wrench for hands have some strong thumb action hahahaha soooooooo glad I randomly commented on your twitter hahahahahaha😂😂😂😂

[@dreamwalk3r]

think im goin to try this out. any accessories for it that you have tried and recommend?