The Flydigi Vader 4 Pro may be the best "pro" controller I've used (FIRST IMPRESSIONS)

[@mythydamashii9978]

Literally shaking to get this controller. I want it so bad but short on money 😫

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

@@mythydamashii9978 Good luck, definitely worth it IMO!

[@EverestZane]

i literally was just thinking about this controller and i sold on this now. i was gonna get the fly digi Apex 4 pro but this one looks way better for all black for almost 100 dollars less. The paddles are the only thing i was gonna be worried about but you made me less worried now so thats good. Great review wolf you sold me on this :)

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

@@EverestZane That's awesome! Yeah, I wasn't sold on the Apex 4, especially with the trigger stops not ACTUALLY being trigger stops. Also, you have to remove a bunch of parts to adjust the tension of the sticks. And there's been a lot of issues around the build of the sticks. All for more expensive. Vader 4 Pro takes it in my opinion. I would love their next controller to have more traditional mouse click paddles (like the Razer Wolverine V3), but regardless, the back buttons and their placements are not detrimental to the point that you can't get used to them and be effective with them :) Glad it helped!

[@EverestZane]

@@OmnicientWolfGaming yeah the paddles and Trigger stops were The main thing's i was looking into. The trigger stops on the Apex 4 pro aren't actually trigger stops. I saw a bunch of people saying that they can still press past what they set the trigger stops too. Another Good selling point was the stick tension. I've never seen a controller have the adjustable stick tension like this controller has, i dont even think its on another controller. I really cant wait to get this controller now, thanks for the help and the great review.

[@montgomeryfitzpatrick473]

Newegg is selling apex4 for $109 and free shipping right now so I got both for the price of any other "pro" controllers

[@zen_xenomorph]

I returned my KK3 Max as well, this was several months ago, so i got a Vader 3 Pro. The V3P is better in almost every way. I'm sure the V4P will be even further ahead. Already ordered one. The paddles on the KK3 stick out too far, way more than on the Elite Series controller, so they're not conformable. The KK3 triggers also feel and sound very cheap when they're locked, and the D-pad just isn't good enough for fighters, where as the V3P and now the V4P both have top tier D-pads. I also had connection problems with the KK3. It's just considerably worse overall but cost me more.

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

@@zen_xenomorph Oof. Yeah, the Vader 4 Pro (and from what I've seen, Vader 3 Pro) are overall superior in many ways.

[@montgomeryfitzpatrick473]

Couldnt decide between this or apex 4(with alloy stick tensioning system), but newegg is selling the apex4 for for $109 so i got both for the price or less than any of the 5 "pro controllers" at best buy

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

@@montgomeryfitzpatrick473 Love to see it! Vader 4 Pro was for more over the Apex 4 primarily for the triggers.

[@ShelbyWatson]

I got this controller and it rules!

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

Couldn't agree more, enjoy!

[@TylenolSamurai]

I have been using a thrust master e swap x pro. That thing is a tank and well built but not exactly comfortable. Vader 4 pro is now in my mix and I am pretty sure i am done as far as the controller hunt goes. i really like everything about it .

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

I tried that controller, just found it too bulky for my hands (hence the not comfortable part you mention for me lol). I can honestly say that this is the best pro controller I've used. I probably would still prefer their rear button placement to be closer to each other (Elite Series 2 style paddles/button placements), but it's fine and doesn't take long to get used to.

[@TylenolSamurai]

@@OmnicientWolfGamingI am still interested in the Razer offering (I can not remember the model ) Funny thing is until I held and used the Vader 4 in some competitive environments (BF 2042) I would have said the TM eswap was the best. As far as the rear button go for me at least , I find them to be in the perfect position for my grip. Individual grip and difference in hand size at the end of the day is what will make a pro controller have a measurable impact on individual performance. That being said if you suck then no controller is going to fix that . Only grinding a game will fix that . Sorry I yelled about controllers :)

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

@Verse-Drifter The Razer Wolverine V3 Pei does look good! I've had a chance to hold one, but not use it hehe. Feels a bit bigger in the hands than the Vader 4 Pro, but definitely smooth. Appreciate the input :)

[@TH3_LAMB_OF_GOD]

My KK3 pro started breaking 1 month in, the Back paddles. And also the trigger stop feel absolutely horrible

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

@@TH3_LAMB_OF_GOD Oof! Yeah, when I was looking for a new controller, I was thinking I'd prioritize rear paddles over triggers, but man, the trigger stops did the KK3 no favors...

[@dovydasjonkus1816]

I use kk3 got 500h game play and i feel back pedals not the same,but i love that xbox layout pedals 😢

[@momocarmelo15]

Hi, the flydigi vader 4 pro or the wolervine v3 tournament edition ? Which one is better in your opinion ? Thanks in advance

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

@@momocarmelo15 I haven't had the opportunity to use the Wolverine V3 Tournament Edition unfortunately. If you're looking for native Xbox support, then Wolverine V3. Only other thing is that the Wolverine V3 is slightly larger, so depending on the size of your hands, that might become a factor.

[@sleepyShaman479]

ive had both wolverine went back 2 days later. V4P hands down

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

@@sleepyShaman479 Good to know!

[@gg-1valo]

This support xbox console wired ?

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

It does not unfortunately, you would need a separate dongle to connect wirelessly.

[@Thundernutz1972]

Can anybody confirm this works with Series x without any additional hardware?

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

It does not, you will need an additional dongle.

[@Magi_K_A]

Hey could you elaborate on the dpad? Is it 8 micro switches or 4? I am that one person that plays fighting games and relies heavily on a good dpad.

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

@@Magi_K_A So the D-pad is an 8 directional one. I can't speak to what's underneath it 100%, but it does feel like micro switches. Overall, good feeling to it.

[@insertnamehere4419]

It's 8.

[@Magi_K_A]

@@OmnicientWolfGaming thanks that helps a lot!

[@louanthonycerilla-go8tr]

Works for xbox?

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

@@louanthonycerilla-go8tr Unfortunately, you will need a separate dongle for Xbox as it's not compatible wired or with the dongle that comes included...

[@victormachado1250]

Have you tested gyro for aiming? Is it good?

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

I have not, but everyone seems to like it!

[@dannydoesd154]

great controller is ther some one that plays fc 25

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

@@dannydoesd154 Agreed, great controller, can't say that I play FC 25.

[@sirsong7003]

i have apex 4. it’s good but it’s too heavy it hurts my hand when playing long time. its this one as heavy?

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

I believe the Vader 4 Pro is lighter, I don't have any issues using it for long periods of time.

[@qryy168]

do gym

[@sirsong7003]

@@qryy168 I do gym sometimes. but i want to relax when playing game. so everything should feel comfort

[@Itseightysix]

u must got the softest hands to ever exist , compared to other controllers , especially the main ones its light

[@karoldudynski9317]

Vader 4 pro is lighter, get one you will love it.

[@yesmydark5484]

Does anyone have weak vibration in nintendo switch mode (d input) like my v4p? I even max the vibration but it can't vibrate as strong compare to the pc mode (x input)

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

@@yesmydark5484 Haven't tested on the Switch, but the vibration was definitely strong even at 50% on PC lol

[@victormachado1250]

Do you know if it's possible to connect the Nintendo switch mode on pc via dongle? Or only via Bluetooth?

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

@@victormachado1250 Not sure what you mean by via PC, but as far as I understand, you should be able to onnect to the Switch via the Dongle

[@victormachado1250]

@@OmnicientWolfGaming usually to connect the gamepad on pc in Nintendo switch mode, you need to do it via Bluetooth connection. That option is bad due to high latency. Some brands allow you to connect the gamepad to the pc in switch mode using the dongle connection, which provides a better latency. And I love to know if vader 4 pro allow you to do that

[@t_tmad5293]

@@victormachado1250only via bluetooth. Connecting via dongle will make your pc recognize it as a Xbox controller

[@THE.MICHAEL.ANGELO]

Thank YOU for not being a Potty Mouth like that grown a** "kid," on Gamer Heaven who reviews controllers as well. Hard to get through the details of his reviews with the distractions of him stupidly cussing a lot. Awesome review Bro! What do you think of this controller vs. the Vitrix? I have the Vitrix Pro and if it's not worth changing/ upgrading, then awesome. New subscriber here!!!!

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

@@THE.MICHAEL.ANGELO To be fair, his reviews are much more robust, but I appreciate the sentiment nevertheless! 😄 Oof, I've never used the Victrix Pro, I changed/upgraded from the Victrix Gambit. This definitely costs less than the Victrix Pro, but arguably has better features overall including hall effect sticks/triggers, stick tension adjustment, and a quick polling rate. That being said, just by the looks of it, the Victrix Pro looks like it has better rear button placements and it's kind of neat that you can replace modules if they go bad. Theoretically, the Vader 4 Pro should never develop drift. Overall, I'd have to give it to the Vader 4 Pro when looking at it from cost-to-performance. Hope that helps, and appreciate the sub!

[@THE.MICHAEL.ANGELO]

​@@OmnicientWolfGaming Yes, he is definitely robust. Maybe a little too much for my taste. LOL. As for the Vitrix Pro's ability to replace the modules, in my opinion, you'd really have to beat/ abuse the controller for them to even go bad, unless it's the circuitry, but really good to have that ability when/ if needed. The Vader 4 Pro's tension adjustment is what got me, as-well-as all the features that you mentioned. Thank you so much for the reply. I'm going to go ahead and purchase one. I"d might as well. My curiosity is really getting the best of me. LOL!!

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

@@THE.MICHAEL.ANGELO Might as well give it a try! 😁

[@beaconing7689]

You mean that afro guy with red jacket ?

[@THE.MICHAEL.ANGELO]

@@beaconing7689 I've seen a few of his reviews as well. I don't like his style as well. His videos can actually be good without the cussing. He's eloquent when he speaks and all, and then out of nowhere, he cusses and it just doesn't sound right or fits in with his scripting. Don't get me wrong, if someone cusses then he/ she cusses, and I have control of what I choose to watch and/ or just skip. I just don't click on his videos any more. One or two videos was enough for me.

[@123-g1u]

CPU cooler brand? This is the best controller I got the 3 pro!!

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

@@123-g1u Cooler Master Hyper 212 ARGB 😊 It really does feel like the best option so far, really did a good job building on the Vader 3 Pro!

[@123-g1u]

@@OmnicientWolfGaming I got the same cooler 212 black argb but i see and screen in yours. Also i have the same headset, hahahahhaahahah but my pc its all black.

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

@@123-g1u Sorry, I messed up, my cooler is actually the DeepCool Gammaxx GT A-RGB!

[@walasf7402]

Positioning of the back buttons kills this controller, people who design those must really think more

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

@@walasf7402 You would think it would, but it's really not that bad. I would still prefer Elite style paddles, but yeah, I got used to it within 30 minutes tbh

[@Rajusharmal]

their design is simply and effective unlike other controller

[@YonkoDarx]

Back buttons are trash cause you cant use 4 fingers at the same time

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

@@YonkoDarx You could if you use a different hand placement, but yeah, I would have preferred four Elite style paddles instead. That being said, it was pretty easy to get used to, middle fingers do all the work and transferring over is pretty easy.

[@sapnil902]

I have this and the apex 4 and now I prefer the back buttons on these controllers. They're more responsive than the paddles and hand positioning is more comfortable. It didn't take long to get used to.

[@YonkoDarx]

@@sapnil902 ok then you convinced me

[@Yungie201]

They are placed the way they were because of gyro purposes.

[@n64slayer]

This is one of the worst controllers I've used. If you even think about using macros or the back buttons, the entire controller bricks itself. The sticks drift like no other

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

Hmm, interesting. I've had zero issues.

[@n64slayer]

@@OmnicientWolfGaming the software once again ruins an amazing controller this time with 10x more bugs than the apex 4

[@andrei1246]

Wdym sticks drift like no other? Aren't hall effect controllers literally impossible to get drift?

[@OmnicientWolfGaming]

@@andrei1246 The Vader 4 Pro even more so. Check out Gamer Heaven's teardown of the controller, he talks about how this stick should never go bad (in theory)

[@primemachine146]

Wait what games you using macros for?