I recommend sticking with creation topics. Clearly the divinity of Jesus made manifest throughout the scriptures. JW's would agree with your incomplete discussion. Thomas said my Lord and My God, Jesus accepted worship and still does. These 3 are one.
@kerryweinholz1731Ай бұрын
(1) Jesus NEVER claimed to be God (YHVH). (2) Jesus didn't claim to be the Creator (Matthew 19:4). Paul also believed that God, not Jesus, was the Creator (Acts 17:24ff). (3) Jesus believed in ONE God (Mark 12:29) Whom he referred to as his Father and his God (John 20:17). (4) It's illogical to claim that Jesus is "fully God, fully man" (100% of both at the same time) - at best 50% if they're simultaneous claims, or 0%-100% or 100%-0% dependent where he is. Yes - rather ridiculous! Just believe the Father-Son relationship as explained in Scripture. We aren't ever called God's "brethren" or "sons of Jesus" because Jesus is one of us, a human! (5) Either God the Father is the one true God (John 17:3) (and therefore Jesus isn't God), or you have two Gods which is contrary to the whole of Scripture (and Jesus's belief at Mark 12:29). (6) Hebrews 13:8 " Jesus the Messiah is the same yesterday, today, and forever." Yes, Jesus was "Spirit God" (or an "angel" or anything else, then a man on earth, then whatever now. No! He was conceived as a human (a man) - that's where he started (like all of humans except Adam and Eve), he stayed a human and died, then was a resurrected human, and will always be a resurrected human. That is the hope of the resurrection! He is indeed the same: "Yesterday" referring to his time on earth, "today" referring to his resurrected and exalted time now beside his Father and God, and "tomorrow" when he descends to sort out the mess on earth - always a MAN. (7) Let's not demote God to a man, nor man to a God. That's the thinking of pagans.
@willywonkalucretiaАй бұрын
Ok you are definitely not reading the Bible, Jesus never claimed to be God... Revelation 1:8 he calls himself the Almighty. John 8 he calls himself " I AM " . Paul wrote Colossians 1:16 and I quote ALL THINGS WERE CREATED BY HIM. Sad to see a creation ministry screw this fundamental doctrine up. Actually see who Jesus says he is. Jesus accepted worship. Jesus was the creator and John 1 tells God became flesh and dwelt among us. Very simple and plain THROUGHOUT scripture. The Jews wanted to kill him because he made himself equal with God and also said only God can forgive sins. Your comment is riddled with false witness.