Jesus Is A Failed Apocalyptic Prophet | Paula Fredriksen PhD

Jesus Is A Failed Apocalyptic Prophet | Paula Fredriksen PhD
MythVision made a special trip to Boston USA to interview Paula Fredriksen. I recorded 12 sessions with Dr. Fredriksen discussing her work in New Testament studies. Thanks to those who helped fund this trip via GoFundMe I was able to make history. Their names are at the outro of every video with Paula.
Paula Fredriksen, the Aurelio Professor of Scripture emerita at Boston University, since 2009 has been Distinguished Visiting Professor of Comparative Religion at the Hebrew University, Jerusalem. A fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, she also holds two honorary doctorates in theology and religious studies. She has published widely on the social and intellectual history of ancient Christianity, and on pagan-Jewish-Christian relations in the Roman Empire. Author of Augustine on Romans (1982) and From Jesus to Christ (1988; 2000), her Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews, won a 1999 National Jewish Book Award. More recently, she has explored the development of Christian anti-Judaism, and Augustine’s singular response to it, in Augustine and the Jews: A Christian Defense of Jews and Judaism (2010); and has investigated the shifting conceptions of God and of humanity in Sin: The Early History of an Idea (2012). Her latest study, Paul: The Pagans’ Apostle (2017), places Paul’s Jewish messianic message to gentiles within the wider world of ancient Mediterranean culture.
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[@obaidulhaque7687]

Hey, Derek, Only inflable BOOK in this earth in Quran... BUT don't go to traditionalist .. You can watch Marvellous Quran channel by Dr Hany Atchan

[@yichengyi]

@@obaidulhaque7687 Much respect to you, but why would a God need to have a human cultural agent to verify their/his/her existence. Wouldn't an authentic deity simply manifest? Why would an all knowing and all powerful entity use a book when they could equally just communicate with each of us in our own language in a strange mental transference rather than the fallible medium of written language?

[@Isaac5123]

@@yichengyi yes and speak directly to people's hearts

[@donnaburden.dip.d.analysis2148]

Have you thought resurrection of the dead is in fact reincarnation? Ancient Christian's did believe in reincarnation the first 500 years after Yeshua (Jesus) died? Xx

[@cosymedia2257]

I'm with " yichengyi " on this (nothing that is spiritual is material) the more people dive into the bible (= chosen by who really know who scriptures), the more it is confusing if not contredicting itself... Still when reading in between the lines (out of religious inculcation and dogmas) it certainely holds some truth (from inspiration or plagiarism even potentially from older civilisations that we may still don't know about for real yet). So to me, when it is said in John 1:1 that the Word was/is God it makes total sense to understand that their is a difference to make between God = the Energy of life / the material part of God AS EVERYTHING (alpha to omega) and God's Consciousness for what talks to him form within - just like ours (in his image)... Written as the Verb or the Word ... thinking is actually anyone's first action, it's also what makes one aware of being alive... Without consciousness = NOTHING (or CHAOS = nothing that stand - materially as well as spiritually). Also the verse 4 saying that he is life, clearly specified that it is not about existence but the light (= consciousness) that's when John 14:6 makes total sense when the Christ (Jesus being the Word's avatar not God) said : I'm the truth (the only thing that one can rely on to find the way - or we can only deal with a bogus map / illusions). So if God is everything (ENERGY of LIFE - we are a part of it) and that would eventually explain the bogus God of the OT (in the image of men in fact - far from perfection - not following his own 10 commands, asking for a materialistic cult (not spiritual), and only ask for obedience instead of conciousness - already denied in what is supposed to be the story of the first human beings (and this already can't be true) - like he (actually litteraly "they" as Gods) only want to deal with unconscious human beings - Why? Why would any father do that to their kids (moreover FOREVER). Also for instance in Luke 10:21 it is said that the light conveyed by Christ is shown to babies/children, knowing that kids can't read nor understand complexe things, still they surely acknowledge the truth for what it is (before any type inculcation, dogmas, lies get in the way = hijacking their consciousness = their capacity to SIMPLY see/feel the truth (= unleavened bread) because their heart/soul is still pure (as long as they have no reason to deny it consciously or uncounsiouly). So to me the Word is talking to us directly from within (if we really want to hear it) John 1:5... The Word of God is not a book - those are scriptures with no realiable origines that could have been and still can be forged even just in interpretation. Excuse my English I'm French...

[@johnnyjohnny-cg7np]

This woman's fantastic. I've watched a few of her lectures and am blown away by her efficiency and clarity of thought.

[@REM1956]

Dr. Fredriksen brought so much to the table. Great questions were followed with context and great answers. What an interesting conversation. Thanks, so much, to both of you.

[@markjohnson543]

Great to listen to Paula. She knows her stuff.

[@thehistoryprof6750]

So refreshing to watch reason and critical thinking displayed so eloquently on this topic. Well done.

[@Lightman741]

I was that kind of Christian who would tell you what chapter of revelation we were on each day, living in constant fear. This channel helped me become an atheist and I am forever thankful

[@edward1412]

SMH.

[@Lightman741]

@@edward1412 care to elaborate?

[@edward1412]

@@Lightman741 I’m just surprised how some Christians easily lose their faith due to KZbin videos. I’ve been following this channel for about 7 months now and I watch the videos because I find them interesting, but I’m never going to lose my faith as a Christian due to how it has shaped me as a person in a positive way. What exactly do you lose as a Christian?

[@2010Juve]

@@edward1412 not to mention, this is mediocrity at it's best. Nothing from this channel is really intellectual at the highest level, but mostly regurgitated Bart Ehrman tropes, which are ok. This channel goes step-in-step with Bart and it's not great. It comes off decently though.

[@edward1412]

@@2010Juve Yeah, I enjoy their interactions but I take most of the things they say with a pinch of salt.

[@hansdemos6510]

I think the eternal attraction of apocalyptic ideas is rooted in the fact that we are only capable to see the world through our own eyes, and that we are therefore predisposed to think of our own times as the most significant and important time in history. Me me me, basically.

[@osr4152]

Derek is a very good interviewer. It helps he knows the subject very well so can guide the discussion to draw out the points but still I think he is a natural presenter

[@abrahamdecruz5128]

His biblical knowledge is sketchy. He is not a good interviewer. He is talking too.much. he should draw her out. This is haphazard. It's just moving from part to part, topic to topic in the bible without much focus.

[@osr4152]

@@abrahamdecruz5128 I wouldn't say his biblical knowledge was sketchy. I think Bart Erhman commented that Derek was well informed so that must count for something. As for interview style, I am sure there is room for some improvement and maybe this interview isnt as focussed but I personally really like his style. I am not a Derek apologist but I really like his personality and how he conducts himself as well as the insightful things he says.

[@hzoonka4203]

well said!

[@GEMSofGOD_com]

He's actually a very good enthusiast. With his professionalism sitting at the lower side of avg, there's no one else now still. Classic.

[@busterbiloxi3833]

He's a very POOR interviewer. Confused, rambling, name dropping, repetitive, non-academic.

[@Vurbanowicz]

I came of age during a time when it was frowned upon to discuss publicly any matters that were contradictory to people's "faith." Much of the scholarship Prof. Fredriksen brings up has been around for decades if not centuries, but bringing it before the public was a no-no. Belief for the sake of belief was a value that could not be challenged, whether its object was God, scripture, even Santa Claus and the tooth fairy, because "faith" was needed for the stability of society. I experienced this climate of opinion growing up in the 1940s and 1950s, and of course it goes back farther. Darwin was reluctant to publish "The Origin of Species" because his observations contradicted scripture, and he feared that if the lower classes learned of this, they would become less respectful of law and governmental authority. (It seems that his ego overcame his reluctance: he decided to publish when one Alfred Russel Wallace started noising about with a similar theory. Darwin didn't want to be scooped by this upstart!) So kudos to MythVision and Paula Fredriksen, and let's be grateful for the less inhibited exchange of ideas that has become possible today.

[@jrutt2675]

Actually Darwin was right and wrong. If one ever learned the truth they would see the bible as a White Supremacist book. Many humans come from apes, many do not. If you look at different races you can see the Simian features in many races. Then there are other peoples who do not have them. The bible never said Adam was the first creature on earth, or first person. It says he was the first man. Liberals do not want this truth to ever get out. Unfortunately for them it will in the end.

[@bobbiefritz2525]

Thank you Derek, I’m loving all these interviews with Paula. Quality Quality Quality! You always ask thoughtful questions. You are helping so many people to THINK. Something religion does not teach. You are courageous and humble.

[@MythVisionPodcast]

Thank you so much 💓

[@ChillAssTurtle]

Yeah Paulas a legend

[@ShallowCreation911]

@@MythVisionPodcast What made ya leave the faith?

[@69eddieD]

@@ShallowCreation911 Reality

[@ShallowCreation911]

@@69eddieD If that's the case, you have no idea what reality is.

[@stevenv6463]

The way resurrection connects with an afterlife is quite fascinating. It is also interesting to me that the ancient Egyptians seemed to believe in the spirit ascending to the stars as well and so had soul tunnels going up in the pyramids.

[@sonyaflorence5972]

The story is a lie, so it can’t be wrong when it never had a chance of being right!

[@jmike2039]

This just seems emotional driven

[@jarodcarnarvon5198]

I grew up in Christian Church being scared to death with the Rapture/ End-Time stuff. I remember watching Jack Van Impe back in the 80s, him being so sure Jesus was going to return by 2000. I went to a Bible study in March of 1992 as a high schooler, the elderly gentleman leading the group said that God told him the Rapture was going to happen in 1993. More recent years, Jack Van Impe said the end of the world was going to happen in 2012, then in 2017. Jim Bakker says we're going to here during the Tribulation and that the Rapture won't happen til afterwards. Hilton Sutton said there would be 3 Raptures. Seventh Day Adventists say part of the End-Time Tribulation already happened, and that anyone who worships on Sunday instead of Saturday is already guilty of taking the mark of the beast. They all contradict each other, yet they all are so sure they're hearing from the same God ......

[@NormBaker.]

Protestantism does not follow orthodox church teachings. Most of the wild prophetic teachings came in the 1800's among many different cult protestant groups. It later infected evangelism.

[@bozoadams4113]

You mentioned quite a few people with their misconceptions. No body knows that exact day and hour, as mentioned bin the scripture. So I have to questions their motives, perhaps financial?

[@NormBaker.]

@@bozoadams4113 The exact day and hour was describing the destruction in 70AD. Most headings on that chapter are titled the destruction of the temple. Most Protestors follow incorrect evangelical teachings.

[@strappedfatman7858]

No one knows the day or hour is a reference to the Feast of Trumpets. So when Trump took the US out of the UN. Covid 19 came about. The first thing Biden did was put the US back in the UN. America uses the American Standard measurement. The world use the Metric System. So when the 8th kingdom set up social distancing. You see the writing on the floor 6 6 6 for your social distancing. It's goal is a one world government, one world religion and one world economy. It's called Agenda 21. Now the power of this 8th Kingdom was reborn with the Nation of Israel. The 6th Kingdom destroyed Jerusalem in 70 AD.

[@douglasparise3986]

Last generation , according to ccc ,1948- 1988,budding of the fig tree. I was in college. They said Jesus would return by l988. I didn't see the point of studying. Got a l.33 gpa

[@samreh6156]

The medieval mind is still strong in modern culture. The price of humans' acute awareness of their cycle of life is fear, and the antidote for the pain this fear causes is for many people religion.Personally, I don't know what's worse, death or eternal life.

[@DontDrinkthatstuff]

Religion also seems to provide an in group advantage as well imo. I think that is why evolutionarily it still is extremely prevalent.

[@BloonChip]

I don't know. Would you rather be alive forever, or dead forever? You were given the chance at life, so now you know it's not as boring as being nothing. At least you have purpose being alive eternally.

[@bdyt]

My old boss is counting down the days which is strange because he's so rational in all other aspects

[@DJ5780]

Interesting yeah there's definitely a huge emotional component to this

[@DontDrinkthatstuff]

The craziness of this world can drive you mad.

[@greengelacid2061]

Dude, thank you for introducing us to Paula...I looked into her history, because never heard of her. Fascinating women for sure. I will definitely check out her work...thank you again...

[@therighteousrighthand]

Awesome video because I see the name of Jesus proclaimed... Folks keep the faith and reject deception. Ask for the Holy Spirit and read the Word.... believe in the name of the Lord and be saved.

[@marktwain5232]

Thank you Derek! You just keep getting better and better since your start with you and Luther as the "Waterboys" several years back. Your growth as both a highly skilled interviewer and as a scholar in your own right is absolutely spectacular! I adore Dr. Paula Fredriksen and have read all of her books in the path of writing my own scholarly book in progress along with a spin off Major Motion Picture Science Fiction Film Script. "Edward F. Edinger" meets "Philip K. Dick" meets "Carl Sagan" is always food for thought! My problem with the psychological resolution of totally counting out "Apocalyptic thinking" is my time in the U.S. Army from 1969-1971 during the suicidal Vietnam War. In one of my duty stations waiting on orders to kill or be killed in Southeast Asia with Stone Age weaponry, I was briefly in the Chain-of-Command of Nuclear Weapons in Europe. I came to the first hand conclusion that we are living in a World shaped by madmen, sociopaths, and lunatics if you study 3,000 years of "Archetypal World History". Right now 50 years later with the profound Archetypal reality of the Russian-Ukraine War with the latest cutting edge 5th generation implementation of MIRV Nuclear Weapons on the drawing boards and in the defense budgets of the World, I still very much entertain "Apocalyptic thinking". If you read the classic 1969 book "Hamlet's Mill: An Essay Investigating the Origins of Human Knowledge And Its Transmission Through Myth" by the late Professors Giorgio de Santillana of MIT and Hertha von Dechen of the University of Frankfurt and combine it with an analysis of the Persian Scripture the "Kitab-I-Iqan" written by Mirza Husayn Ali of Nur (Baha'u'llah) in 1861/1862, you will see perhaps a New cutting edge Jungian Allegorical interpretation of the entire concept of "Apocalypse". Walter Cruttenden would make an excellent guest to discuss the book "Hamlet's Mill" if he is still with us. I had a long talk with him in Pittsburgh back in 2006 just before his own book came out. A wonderful gentle man! You should also look into the Baha'i scholars Dr. Juan Cole PhD., Dr. Todd Lawson PhD., and Dr. Christopher Buck PhD. to eventually have on in due course to speak on Baha'i Scripture on a scholarly historical level. I am on your Patreon support channel and it is some of the best money I have ever spent! (my classic Marshall Amp Stack does trump you!)Your channel has helped me greatly in my own scholarship for my book in progress although my bank account has a considerable dent in it from all the books I have purchased because of your first rate incisive interviews! I just got Dr. Dennis MacDonald's latest as my Christmas present for myself! It is fabulous! Keep up the great work on your channel in 2023! Happy New Year, Derek, to you and yours!

[@donatomarcelloradice]

I am just tired of those western godless and souless people that makes money and fame talking about something they do not even understand... Why always westerns do that??? Why are you so obsessed about Jesus? God? The Bible if you do not believe it??/ just live your life, without put mouth everywhere, right? Ye that is true we are the worst of the humanity and anyone deny that is a lier and an Hipocrite. You are just ridicolous you western godless and souless idiots and earn to shut up, sometime.

[@marktwain5232]

@@donatomarcelloradice How did my simple post of best wishes to Derek Lambert in appreciation of his work and some references for some highly trained and learned possible future guests to interview on his channel, illicit such raw ugly dark hatred from your heart? Please explain this?

[@yahweh2787]

You sound very educated. Are you really working on a movie script? We need more intellectuals like you, that understand the circumstances of the world and the pitfalls of humanity, in the realm of entertainment. Best wishes.

[@marktwain5232]

​@@yahweh2787 Yes I am. Thank you very much for the encouragement! Very much appreciated! I have major Hollywood and UK Film contacts. I have studied Screenwriting for many years. I am onto a supremely good Science Fiction Story. I hope I can get somewhere with this one. To say that this Story is timely is an understatement! Again, thank you for your kind post!

[@yahweh2787]

@@marktwain5232 that’s amazing. You’ve done what I’ve dreamt of doing.. I’ve developed a huge love for movies over the past few years, hopefully I end up watching your film someday. Again, best wishes.

[@johnpelosi4117]

Thank you Derek! Always enjoy your work and interviews, Happy New Year!

[@ConstantCompanion]

Only, it did happen. I have no problem investigating and analyzing the Bible in a critical fashion. In fact, I enjoy it very much, but the fact is, it did happen. It's not in the future periods in the past. There was the fall of the temple and all that stuff happened. For some reason they don't teach that anymore anywhere. This woman doesn't even know about it. But the whole thing did indeed occur as Jesus said it would in 70 AD

[@SonOfChrist777]

Jesus is the most successful, greater than all the so called gods of the world, because though Jesus has not written any book, yet Jesus is in all the books of the world. Jesus is the subject of discussion, mediation, research etc for all times, past, present and future forever.

[@paulrichards6894]

fantastic for a person who almost certainly never existed

[@BloonChip]

​@@paulrichards6894Is it true? Are you the one who knows it all?

[@paulrichards6894]

@@BloonChip Whether he existed or not the evidence is still poor...the magic one certainly didn't exist he is certainly made up as is judaism and Christianity

[@mizotter]

WOOT! Powerful, clear, and entertaining! Thank YOU BOTH! Be well!

[@ChillAssTurtle]

Yes.

[@lh1673]

To me it was easy for me to get away with the fear of The End. Since my wake from this book, I questioned myself How can A LOVE predict All those torturous, terrible SIGNS and say just endure to be saved. How can a LOVE knowing these SIGNS will allow sufferings and pains and will just watch especially little children screaming and crying of pain. Unbelievable!

[@Hfelix123]

The little ones will be secure in heaven. It's all because of sin and the consequences of it.

[@robertseavor4304]

If it's "unbelievable" don't believe. Who cares what you idiot atheists think? Not I.

[@eprd313]

​@@Hfelix123just like the Egyptian firstborns were safe?

[@BloonChip]

The children will be fine, you gotta worry about yourself first.

[@SillyChickens222]

I also worried about the rapture. I eventually became a universalist and thought that it will all be okay bc we will all be saved in our own time. But then when I would tell another universalist friend “The rapture makes me worried bc what if I’m taken but my young son is left behind and starves to death bc Im not there?” I was told that “god” allows other children to starve around the world and to just trust “gods” plan. It was insane to me that I had to be okay with my child starving to death in order to love and obey this “god.” Needless to say I started distancing myself from Christianity all together.

[@oxajenwashere]

This is false. Jesus is going to take children with him when the rapture happens

[@user-gu4th6tv4k]

@@oxajenwasherecorrect children have not reached the age of accountability yet

[@BloonChip]

God is a fair judge, he won't leave people behind unless he knows they won't change in the future. That is why he will never welcome the devil into his kingdom, because he knows Satan won't change.

[@Thomas_Zscheile]

​@@oxajenwashere This point of view is not really found in Scripture. It requires interpreting different texts as if applying to the rapture. But nonetheless I understand the point.

[@soular_wisdom]

I commend you on your work. Most people don't consider the possibility that their religion could be wrong. Most think this way out of fear, but you're confronting the bull head-on. Good on you!

[@TrisjenHarris1203]

Derek, thank you thank you thank you. I love the questions and her answers. So many people in Christianity are thinking of the return, not realizing Jesus, Paul etc believe it would come in their day. Anymore, I’m curious, if the writers of those texts were making it up/winging it as they went along!!

[@tonymansourati6937]

Yes ? winging it & get killed in the process !.

[@madams3478]

a person could get killed for a lot of different things back in those days

[@CopperWalker]

We don't know when Jesus will return but as long as we are repenting our sins, putting our trust in Jesus Christ, and telling the world about Him, only then shall we have salvation

[@StevenBrener]

@@CopperWalker Assuming there's any validity to the narrative

[@CopperWalker]

@@StevenBrenerThere is validity because Jesus said that no one knows the day or the hour except for God the Father. We must be prepared for the day because we have no idea when He is returning. It will be like a thief in the night

[@Hambonebodi]

How did Jesus fail , people are still talking about him 2000 years later , this video proves that .❤

[@ghostriders_1]

People are still talking about a version of him. Scholars, by ; large conclude that most of what we know about him is just mythology, the real Jesus was a failed, apocalyptic prophet. Personally I go one step further & say he wasn't a failure because he didn't exist.

[@reginasyliboy8507]

He never existed.

[@Hambonebodi]

@@reginasyliboy8507 prove it

[@user-gu4th6tv4k]

@@Hambonebodithey can’t. Atheist want to live a life of Sin with no guilt therefore they say there is no God

[@rollinolson3562]

Sounds like a successful scam.

[@0nlyThis]

Even as late as 325 CE, the Nicene Creed proposes bodily resurrection, universal judgment and “the life of the ages to come” to be expected upon Jesus’ return. It should be noted that no mention is made, here, of either Heaven or Hell, nor, for that matter, of an Immortal Soul capable of tolerating either - these were later introductions after Jesus proved a “no-show” to kick off the expected credal scenario.

[@ggeorgeherny]

Thank you Derek for these uplifting information. It is helping me to deal with all the garbage placed in my head from Christian schools. I am an ex Christian. I respect but gone another direction like you have to see all the lies we have been told. Thank you thank you.

[@dianaelliott3654]

Jesus Christ is the son of God and my Savior. These people on this video are deceived.

[@CopperWalker]

We don't know when Jesus is coming back, He made that VERY clear before He ascended into Heaven. Just because you interpret something wrong doesn't make what you just said about the misinterpretation correct. Jesus Christ is coming back and He is going to bring Judgement with fire and Judge all who don't put their Faith in Jesus Christ. Jesus died for all of your sins by laying His Life on the Cross because we have sinned. Yet we were still sinners. Are we Judged yet? No. The apocalypse will happen when Jesus returns. This apocalypse is Judgement with fire. I am telling you guys with abundant Love that you need to repent of your sins and put your trust in Jesus Christ Praise God from all Whom all Blessings flow! ❤

[@oldowl4290]

I feel my ancient French/Frank pagan Gaul ancestry is finally being liberated lol. I'm totally enjoying your series with Paula. Outstanding stuff.

[@dgetzin]

This is one of the best recently recorded. As with the song “in my time of dying” - “Meet me Jesus meet me - meet me in The middle of the air” -

[@thenowchurch6419]

That puts the New Testament Kingdom in the right context. The immanence piece was just to comfort those who were impatient but the real meeting Jesus is when one dies and one's death usually comes quicker than we expect.

[@nonyadamnbusiness9887]

I'm no biblical scholar, but I'm pretty sure "the kingdom of god is within you and all around you" is not apocalyptic.

[@biancac3438]

All prophesies have been fulfilled we are in the spiritual kingdom of God. The return of Jesus is not physical but spiritual. The return of christ consciousness.

[@goosemonroe2695]

There will be a final judgement and resurrection, Better be ready

[@gregoryrust8626]

Derek, great interview, really enjoyed it. Dr. Paula is always so interesting and enthusiastic as are you. You two seem to have great rapport, similar minds…

[@banba317]

Kudos to you Derek, for being so open about your own experience; I'm certain you'll be making others review their own misgivings!

[@johndefalco7454]

Again she is missing the point. Jesus Main concern was not about the end of time. Jesus concern was to teach us how to live. After more of 2000 years we still don't learn.

[@YaA-l-ex]

Jesus' having failed in predicting the future, not counting the other lies of this mythical character, means at least his not being the one deserving to be worshipped. So, realizing the fact may help some people either avoid being deceived or stop being deceived by lots of false teachers having made money on "Jesus' followers" and committed a great deal of awful crimes in his name since the man-made god appeared.

[@hermanhandbrush4402]

@@YaA-l-ex People might also say that Jesus having been murdered proved he shouldn't be worshipped either. So no, I don't think we do have to believe him as an inerrant prophet in order to worship him. Do you think Christology can be so easily comprehended? We do not even understand ourselves well. How much less do we understand God. And if one becomes fully human and fully divine, are we to trust a mere book can explain all this to us?

[@dmiller4511]

"Dangling saints" ... love this whole interview.

[@charleswilliams8248]

No man knows the day nor the hour! Not even Christ, only the Father. You will have mockers, God will never be subject to His creation, His ways are past finding out! We don’t know when, but it shall come to pass!

[@richardgregory3684]

And yet Jesus also said he would return witin the lifetime sof his followers. It's quite funny how Christians have been trying to weasel their way out of that one for several thousand years

[@hermanhandbrush4402]

@@richardgregory3684 Or maybe those who reported his words and deeds got some of it wrong. Just like people do now with contemporary news stories. To be a Christian involves more than sedulous Biblical exegesis. This is why the more mystical element of religious life needs more emphasis. Read and interpret scripture, great. But it will only take you so far.

[@richardgregory3684]

@@hermanhandbrush4402 Well then that just means the bible is a collection of untrustworthy stories.

[@Rizzob420]

Actually, Yeshua said “in this generation” for some of the prophecies. Look up what happened between 66-70 AD. He was right about some of the other things towards the end of days. Look at society and also the Euphrates River for starters.

[@isaaclosh8082]

Lol all the gospels were written after the description of the temple. It’s like writing a book now with a supposed prophecy about planes flying into the World Trade Center. That’s not a prophecy, it’s a gimmick to try to create what appears to be credibility, but is false

[@stereotype5868]

Right, the people have been brainwashed into thinking the world will end soon.

[@Rizzob420]

@@isaaclosh8082 It’s funny you mention the WTC, because there was a prophecy about that in Revelation.

[@UpAndRunning-xz6er]

You can find a "prophesy" for anything in Revelations.

[@Kalense]

What a lovely pair of people.

[@QuinnPrice]

Loved Paula's insights.

[@edwardmiessner6502]

The title is utterly BLASPHEMOUS! And totally, totally correct.

[@oxajenwashere]

Its really not tho

[@user-gu4th6tv4k]

Not even close

[@boxernath]

Not correct at all

[@Theprofessorator]

Dr. Fredriksen is great at showing the Helenistic influence on Judaism at this time. It's a point that I'm realizing the importance of in making Jesus god.

[@himachalarana3454]

Namasthê. I am a brown skinned Hindu, a Demonic Hindu in the eyes of Christ/Mary related Abrahamic religions. Discussions like this are great for our Poorva Paksha (the art of studying the opposing parties point of view thoroughly and then presenting your viewpoint (Uttara Paksha, rebutting the opposing party's point of view) group. Thank you Derek and Paula. Pranâms.

[@billyjean7169]

Go away

[@missionlightsgrp9187]

In the sixties, in a 100% Muslim country where there was no internet to circulate information, and where no one heard of Jesus, there was a little girl under the age of six, unwanted, starved and molested. When life became impossible, and she heard that taking too much medication could kill her, that's exactly what she tried to do. Sometime later, this heavenly figure came in a vision. He was being worshipped by a little white girl around her age who felt very loved by him. She described the vision to her relatives who told her it was Issa but no one affirmed it. She grew up to become an atheist and a social case... believing that this god didn't come for her. It was only when she was about 30 that she gathered the courage to investigate. Her life became an opportunity to study, learn, fight and grow. She learnt to live by faith in spite of the persisting darkness. I believe her story. I think Jesus came back already and that's why various people can see him within. So, his mission is far from failed.

[@harlzberg6068]

Always a great discussion, good to get as many researched opinions as possible. It's been the end of times since the start of times. The years prior was all about war, plunder and ruling between brothers and trading there sisters off. If you won the war, your "religion" commenced. Kievan Rus like most other tribes, were pagan until forced to be baptized. South America, North America, Africa, Indo Europe, Ireland, etc were all converted, so the powers that be forced their ways in exchange for traded goods. Whoever won the war gets to write the history books.

[@twelvestitches984]

The problem with religious people throughout history is that you all think it's all about YOU. It's just not about you and it never will be. I was raised Jehovah's Witness and as a child I was told that any day now God would kill everyone who is not a JW and we would inherit Paradise Earth but it never happened. Then I read the bible and realized that is doesn't actually say that. People don't want to die so they need the apocalypse to happen in their lifetime. Matthew 5:5 - Blessed are the meek, For they shall inherit the earth. It doesn't say that God will kill those you don't like, or anyone at all. It also doesn't say that it will happen in your lifetime. Eventually humans will evolve (maybe in one thousand years) so that there is no more war. Humans will become meek and gentle but God is not going to do it for you. Just because someone chose to include Paul's writings in the New Testament does not mean Paul's ideas are Christianity or universal policy. Thou shalt not worship Paul or place Paul's ideas equal with Jesus. The Book of Revelations was written by the Apostle John. Thou shalt not worship John or take John's ideas and place them equal with Jesus or call them Christianity. John did not make universal policy, no human does. The sleeping survivors, resurrection of the dead, were awakened when Jesus arose to heaven. "No one comes to the Father except through me." What this means is that Jesus controls the doorway to heaven. It's also somewhat literal because this universe is on Jesus timeline. Before Jesus completed His earth mission the people who died before that time went to sleep and could not ascend to heaven. You can't figure out the truth from just reading the bible because in the bible the chaff is still mixed with the wheat. You really have an extremely over inflated ego that is typical of primitive beings. You want what you want when you want it. God, Jesus, and the angels do not serve humans. The universe wants Job, not spoiled little brats who think they should have been given an easy life full of luxury.

[@maskedsaiyan1738]

Such a blasphemous title. I love it!

[@stephenbailey9969]

When scholars begin with the premise that the documentation of a fulfilled prophecy must have been written after the fulfillment occurred, that is because modernist scholarship (like science) cannot consider the possibility of supernatural causation. That is outside of the parameters of scholarly discussion. So, an alternative narrative must be applied. What actually might have occurred is less important than maintaining the modernist paradigm.

[@bartfeather6176]

Derek, as far as mpg goes this is one of your best. Dr. Fredrickson and you packed a lot into 10 minutes.

[@bartfeather6176]

Apologies for misspelling her name

[@bartfeather6176]

@ericgsinsmd8984 wow!!!!

[@7inrain]

@Eric G Sins MD Seven doctorate degrees? How much did they cost you and which of the diploma mills was the cheapest?

[@69eddieD]

@Eric G Sins MD Liar

[@bartfeather6176]

@ericgsinsmd8984 wow!! well I have a higher authority than that. Satan told me Jesus, not the son of God.

[@Stonezster]

If you take 70ad into account, Jesus was anything but a failed apocalyptic prophet. If Luke was written before 70ad, and considering acts doesn't record Paul's death, that seems possible, then Jesus was spot on concerning the end of the world for the Jews and the Jewish temple...As for thew kingdom of God. we are 2000yrs later and this so called Kingdom of god has thrived with Jesus as the King of that Kingdom, ruling over the kings of the earth. Looks like a fulfillment of the Messiah to me...The fact remains, 2000yrs of Jesus Kingdom of God has stood the test of time and still stands strong...I can't think of a single empire that has stood longer.

[@doggiesarus]

You know, You honestly go out of your way to collect these wonderful scholarly dissenting opinions to the popular "inerant bible" cult (here in the USA, but lesser so in the rest of the world). I honestly value your work. I am in a bad spot right now, but believe me, you have some patreon bucks coming your way. Keep up the great work Derek. You are asking powerfulimportant questions!

[@harlzberg6068]

If you were born into a muslim family or buddhist upbringing, you would think all the other faiths were not correct. So, if it was true and not a faith based system, then there would only be one, so pick your political angle your type of art if you will or realize if it's forced as in faith not fact, then like every other sect, you can branch off or simply be atheist on it all. History is fun, that's why so many ppl read it.

[@ivastewart7106]

JESUS IS GOD, AND GOD IS NEVER WRONG. POPE IVA. 🕊🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯

[@jonathanbell1779]

Man has a habit of twisting there brains to see what they wanna see but really lying to themselves and covering there tracks. It's so predictable.

[@paulrichards6894]

in 2014 84% of people on this earth believed in one type of god ....suspect its a tad lower now

[@patrickjohnson7592]

The Only people, to experience , the resurrection, are the Israelites.

[@Celtokee]

A never-ending sense of amusement to me is the people who are **dying** to convince you that Jesus never existed (that the stories about Jesus are all made up) while out of the other side of their mouth try to convince you that Jesus existed---but was a failure. There's a common thread here. These people attack the accounts of the synoptic gospels--from any direction they can---even if their various attacks contradict each other---because...they are terrified by the message of the synoptic gospels.

[@Val.Kyrie.]

Or it’s literary critique. People have spent hundreds of hours examining the actions of Harry Potter characters and their motivations. The characters are entirely fiction.

[@Celtokee]

@@Val.Kyrie. You could make the same claim about the US civil war....if you were so inclined.

[@michaeljacobs5342]

In respect of "Ressurection" theology may only be an analogy for Spiritual rejuvenation when false religious beliefs become fully exposed, in the meantime we grope around in the dark, until realisation dawns.

[@TheMichaelseymour]

8:30 If you have ever astral travelled - or lifted out of your body ,then you will not be alarmed by any of this its not just plausible - but has actually been experienced both consciously and sub-consciously. The speed at which you travel cannot possibly be done justice to in words. The "whoosing " rush of sound is scary really . and (& i believe everyone has had EX: of this when "falling " back into their body - returning from astral travel ) I also believe when jesus said "my fathers house has many mansions. " - THIS segment of the vid - is what he is loosely referring to Also , having seen apparitions appear multiple times ( couple of times with others as witness) (Credible sober witnesses i might add !) And many other types of "supernatural " events - inc clairvoyance , telepathy , etc , I did NOT come to faith in jesus by "indoctrination. " - i was actually. more drawn to occult practices because they were exciting and scary .....but only until i realized how TRUE that was in a very real way . I guess what i am trying to say - is My faith in jesus words of "beating death " and living in "heaven. " -spirit life and all manner of supernatural things described in the bible - suddenly did not sound ridiculous anymore. In a roundabout way - my disobedience to his doctrine actually facilitated my belief in his teachings I can only imagine if i had never experienced those things ...then maybe i would still be a scoffer - HOWEVER , i dont just belief that you have to experience anything otherworldly to be convinced of its existence. Jesus words in lots of these passages are simple - yet so profound (&beautiful) -that they can touch you enough to transform any mocking doubter . This is simply my way , the way i found toward the peace and fire of "the light of the world "

[@williamsherman3047]

Since Jesus didn't actually exist...

[@healthyone100]

he did exist but was NOT the savior he was just a man who taught "Veganism"!

[@gus1537]

He that hath an ear let him hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches. Jesus Christ is Alive, Jesus Christ is Coming Soon, The God who answers by Fire He is God, Praise Jesus Revelation 1-22 🔥🔥

[@kj_H65f]

How soon? I feel like its the same as my wife's idea of the word when I ask when we're gonna leave the party lol

[@osr4152]

@Kareen Curry no read the signs of the time!!! We have wars, disease, political unrest. No other century has had any of these.... the minor skirmishes in the middle east today are far more significant than the fall of Jerusalem, the sack of the largest city in the world, the fall of a superpower, etc. Only joking of course. But my point is that every generation thinks that the signs are being fulfilled in their lifetime.

[@exploittheworld]

At no point in the bible are specific dates given for the end times or return of Jesus, only signs, which until now are truly abundant and possible unlike any time before. The end is nigh. The word of God is truth and eternal. There is no life without the word of God in it.

[@williamscottharkey]

Excellent video. Apologies if there answer is out there and I missed it, but is it possible to listen to these interviews in audio form outside of KZbin, though a podcast platform or the like? Many thanks on all you do. Really appreciate and enjoy the content. Thank you.

[@maxbaba1000]

SnapTube.Its an app on your android phone

[@ShallowCreation911]

@@maxbaba1000 God is real!

[@hopesprings4967]

@@ShallowCreation911Who are you trying to convince?

[@ShallowCreation911]

@@hopesprings4967 I'm not convincing anyone, I'm here to debate and destroy.

[@caitlynaizpiri7806]

Very interesting talk! Thanks for making it possible.

[@bradleymosman8325]

Mark 13:32, ESV: “But concerning that day or that hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." It's hard to pin Jesus down. Just when we've decided what he was thinking, Jesus does an end run around us.

[@barrymoore4470]

It seems dangerous to stake one's faith in one who cannot or will not hold to a fundamental position, and who provides clever alibis for gaps in one's logic.

[@robertkily3878]

Jesus was not wrong,, Bible is wrong. Paul has written 14 chapters of Bible. This is not a book of God Please read the Bible of Enoch, Bernabas, Marry Macdonald and other orginal one.

[@dacktube6957]

HellalooLAH!! I have faith in the Almighty MythVisionist, who has raised us up in the resurrection of Intelligence, logic, and reason, that we may have power in the mighty name of Knowledge. Lol 😂 love your channel❤️😂📖🙏✨

[@jeannemontoya2323]

After watching this video and reading many of the comments, I am just SO indebted to the Lord Jesus Christ for saving me!! Through the finished work of His cross, His shed blood and incredible sacrifice I am born again and will spend eternity with Him!! Praise God!! Never forget…the fear (awe) of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

[@paulrichards6894]

despite paula i think jesus existing is a long shot

[@paulrichards6894]

magic jesus no chance....ordinary jesus very unlikely

[@oxajenwashere]

AMEIN

[@oxajenwashere]

@@paulrichards6894Jesus is very real

[@user-gu4th6tv4k]

Amen

[@JD-lt7uv]

Christians continue to wait 2,000 years later for the coming of their messiah. At what point will people realize they've been stood up?

[@donatomarcelloradice]

I am just tired of those western godless and souless people that makes money and fame talking about something they do not even understand... Why always westerns do that??? Why are you so obsessed about Jesus? God? The Bible if you do not believe it??/ just live your life, without put mouth everywhere, right? Ye that is true we are the worst of the humanity and anyone deny that is a lier and an Hipocrite. You are just ridicolous you western godless and souless idiots and earn to shut up, sometime....

[@oxajenwashere]

1,000 years is a day to the Lord.

[@rollinolson3562]

​@@oxajenwashere God can't tell time.

[@BloonChip]

*Patience* We can't force Christ to return.

[@NathanDFoust-john146]

2:22-2:32 It doesn't matter what THEY were expecting to happen, what matters is what Jesus meant by the phrase His "Kingdom."

[@spankflaps1365]

Why doesn’t Jesus predict something useful, like next weeks sports results (place a few bets kaching!)

[@CopperWalker]

He knows everything

[@CopperWalker]

@R BolandOh really, then how did Jesus Christ know when he was going to die? Also, predicting something is to predict the future. And Jesus doesn't just predict the future, He knows the future

[@oxajenwashere]

@rboland2173how did he know he was going to the cross?

[@BloonChip]

There goes the mocking again. Souls full of pride, not knowing what their doing. Doing exactly what God said they would do, and they have no idea.

[@VernonChitlen]

The Kingdom of heaven is as near as a saved person's death. 2 Cor 5:8 We are confident, yes, well pleased to be absent from the body and to be present with The Lord

[@paulrichards6894]

@R Boland he or she will need it

[@russelldavis4938]

Just as you say, clever humans can make contradictions look like non-contradictions. However, most who try are simply fooling themselves. On the other hand, things we once saw as contradictions have proven not to be so. This unfolds in science continually. So, as the academic skeptics say, keep searching for the truth while remembering "we are often most wrong about the things we are the most sure of."-Descartes

[@davidmcbrine4527]

The opposite is also true. Clever humans can make non-contradictions look like contradictions. It just matters how you are motivated. And yes, many "apparent" contradictions can usually be cleared up with more research. The sciences are the perfect example. Truth is the goal.

[@tonymansourati6937]

Yes ! science without morality ? = Stalin + Hitler + Mao tse-tung !

[@scambammer6102]

AND... sometimes contradictions really are contradictions. Like all that stuff in the bible that xtians have been trying to explain away for 2000 years.

[@tonymansourati6937]

@@scambammer6102 may you , provide one example of contradiction , in the new testament ? .

[@davidmcbrine4527]

@@scambammer6102 Ditto with Tony, back up your claim, provide proof.

[@jamm_affinity]

There’s a certain weariness and fear to the apocalyptic style of thinking. It’s not to say that we shouldn’t fear potential extinction events, but we need to realize that they are often driven by false positives that are so deeply ingrained in our evolutionary psychology. We’re wired to fear things that may not actually be a threat since a false positive doesn’t get us killed, but no fear signal at all when one was needed will.

[@MetalByzantine]

When did prophecy fail? Because to me the world looks like it’s heading exactly where it needs to go

[@MetalByzantine]

@R Boland You just can’t imagine being in gods position. We are humans not god. He does things for a reason and the world needed to be wiped at that time. All the innocent life will be saved. In your view it’s just a cosmic accident

[@Lizardkingmediaproductions]

The Apocalypse to me is really related to Plato talking about how Democracies are a bad form of Government when the desire class is in power. The Apocalypse everyone is waiting for is actually our Democracy failing, as it will because we they always fail.

[@mdug7224]

Fabulous.

[@mrshankerbillletmein491]

Israel and Jerusalem in the light of history and prophesy seem clear enough to me

[@onedaya_martian1238]

Derrek - you need to start your own religion. I'd be glad to help finance your own tax-free club house ! (er, church). It would be so great to hang out and chat further, especially with the amazing scholars you host !!

[@guytitanic]

The Derrekians

[@CopperWalker]

There is only one true God who is Jesus

[@onedaya_martian1238]

@@CopperWalker there are 3 gods according to christians. And even though christians talk about XY chromosomes, specific genitals for a specific sex...they still call something that is not of this world a "he". One has to be nutz to believe this and a danger to propagate it.

[@CopperWalker]

@@onedaya_martian1238What do mean by three Gods? The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit refer to only one God which is God Himself. Those who have the Holy Spirit have Jesus and those who have Jesus have the Father. "Those who have seen me have seen the Father." John 14:8-9

[@CopperWalker]

@Chadtyrone Yes, Jesus is a part of the Trinity. Also, Jesus is the Son of God the Father. But there are also no records that Jesus had sex with Mary. The Bible says that Mary gave birth to Jesus while she was still a virgin. This means that in order for Mary to not be a virgin, she would still have to have sex. Yet she still had a Son. How? Through the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the Life giver. The Holy Spirit is God. Jesus is God. The Father (Yahweh) is God

[@Zuzuboy1218]

I don't comment much I really appreciate what you do. I feel Scholars need to talk to the lay people ..there needs to be that bridge. Of course Bart is the rock 🤘 we can't take lightly his tremendous contribution to make a scholarship cool. Your ability to bring Diversity is amazing I'm very grateful.... Oh yeah Paula rocks

[@DL-rl9bd]

Derek I prophesy that you’re going to be a great documentary filmmaker, above and beyond a youtuber. Great interviews and guests. Better than the Christian apologists. But, then again, they can’t handle the truth and surround themselves within an echo chamber.

[@charlie54966]

According to the gospel of Thomas Jesus said the kingdom was already here. It was in you and around you.

[@andreperri9084]

The end is going to happen like a Thief in the Night. It is up to God. Nobody knows the time or place not even the Son.

[@CopperWalker]

That's right. You are very correct on this matter

[@pwabd2784]

You're foolish to watch a scholar talk about this and still believe what you do.

[@jeremiahchandler8397]

Update: We all die. End of story.

[@maddyboombaddybaddy6532]

Ohhhh a thief in the night I'm soooo scared

[@williamtotherow3367]

I would love to talk to Paula in person and get answers to some of my questions. Derek, thanks so much for your podcast, I have learned so much and you always do a great job.

[@vinegar10able]

Very interesting. thank you

[@marybeck7594]

I love a human with a PhD, knows so much about the Bible, but they can't even figure out how to change out their own door locks, I've personally seen it. Wow I'm impressed, golee

[@dcoded5217]

That makes no sense brother

[@marybeck7594]

@R Boland my husband said he'd be taking a trip on his hog, he said tell him where you live and he will personally show you how it's done, oh he said BOY.

[@JessicaSunlight]

But he wasn't an apocalyptic preacher lol, last time I checked he was talking about how to connect to reality of God via inner experience. You should have looked at 100 years after his "death" and many mystical groups that were teaching his word. Real Jesus had been challenging religions of his time and I will a sure you that Jesus would challenge any Catholic religion today that became dead end on itself, including materialism respectfully. The sad thing about people "freeing" themselves from Christianity is that they throw away all spirituality and not willing to discover real Teachings of Jesus and convert to another religion of materialism and now they become so convinced that it has reality that they again shut themselves off from anything beyond this mental box - people literally swoppd one box for another. And how can I claim this? well your life still revolves around topic of God - So you haven't moved anywhere, you are dancing around the golden calf. You still have no idea what God is, you never experienced it you never known any Devine love you never encountered Jesus in spirit - you literally know nothing from personal experience on this issues all you known as Christian is ideas that lived in your mind and then there came a time to question them, and boom you realized there is no validity to believe them to be true. And you thrown shackles of Christianity but you have not answered or experienced God Reality... Now your mind is trapped by another set of ideas "Im highly evolved ape" "I die after body dies" "There is no spiritual reality" and list goes on.

[@DannyVandagriff-il2pl]

Rebirth from death. Reincarnation, the Kingdom is in you and Outside of you. Be still still and Know the Creation Of GOD.

[@luisbenitez4907]

When she speaks about the resurrection , mocking about it , a question came to mi mind ? what kind of knowledge can teach me somebody who is living in the flesh?.

[@davidpersson250]

I can only give my personal testimony and that is that I dont have a personal relationship with jesus christ but I have one relationship with reality

[@montymartell2081]

Thank you for putting this on KZbin for free so poor idiots like me and still watch love this show

[@danjensen8412]

Oh my goodness, this has been answered so many times. I have answered a number of people on this very channel over this issue at least a dozen times. You get so old Derek.

[@LuciferAlmighty]

What issue?

[@danjensen8412]

@@LuciferAlmighty That Jesus was a failed prophet, the subject of the video….

[@epicofgilgamesh9964]

@@danjensen8412 Sorry Dan. Jesus as a failed apocalyptic prophet is the general consensus of critical scholarship, even critical Christian scholars like Dale Allison. The Son of Man (Jesus himself?) was supposed to be an end of the world arbiter, as Bart Ehrman points out in his lecture referenced below, and as the Bible states he was supposed to come *within the lifetime* of Jesus’s followers. *It didn't happen.* Read the article from the former Christian apologist and Tim O'Neill (former Christian), who has been studying the scholarship and history for decades, referenced below as well. *Jesus falsely prophesied his return in the 1st century* For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; ***and then he shall reward every man according to his works.*** Truly I tell you, ***some who are standing here will not taste death*** before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom Matthew 16:27-28 Truly I tell you, ***some who are standing here*** will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God Luke 9:27 Truly I tell you, ***this generation will certainly not pass away*** until all these things have happened Mark 13:30 The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken. Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. Truly I tell you, ***this generation will certainly not pass away*** until all these things have happened Matthew 24:29-34 There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near. When you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near. Truly I tell you, ***this generation will certainly not pass away*** until all these things have happened Luke 21:25-32 *Jesus promised to return over 2, 000 years ago and he still hasn’t.* Jesus and the angels never appeared from Heaven, the stars never fell from the sky, none of these things happened. Nothing he prophesied happened. ***Apologists can try to spin this, but the simple fact is that Jesus was either wrong or misquoted.*** According to the Bible that makes Jesus a false prophet or misquoted (and if Jesus is misquoted than the Bible is not inerrant or the word of God) How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord? If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken Deuteronomy 18:21-22 *Jesus falsely prophesied to the high priest and the Sanhedrin* Jesus also falsely prophesied to the high priest and the Sanhedrin (assemblies of either twenty-three or seventy-one rabbis appointed to sit as a tribunal) You will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and ***coming on the clouds of heaven*** Matthew 26:64 Mark 14:62 Except the high priest and the Sanhedrin never saw Jesus sitting at the right hand side of God, or coming on the clouds of heaven, or any such thing. *Jesus falsely prophesied to Nathaniel* Jesus also falsely prophesied to Nathanael when he declared, “Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the king of Israel.” Jesus said, You believe because I told you I saw you under the fig tree. You will see greater things than that. He then added, ***“Very truly I tell you, you will see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man*** John 1:50-51 *Nathanael never saw any such thing. Neither did anyone else.* The following quote from Stephen L. Harris, Professor Emeritus of Humanities and Religious Studies at California State University- Sacramento, completes this point with a devastating argument. *Jesus did not accomplish what Israel’s prophets said the Messiah was commissioned to do:* He did not deliver the covenant people from their Gentile enemies, reassemble those scattered in the Diaspora, restore the Davidic kingdom, or establish universal peace (cf.Isa. 9:6-7; 11:7-12:16, etc.). Instead of freeing Jews from oppressors and thereby fulfilling God’s ancient promises-for land, nationhood, kingship, and blessing- *Jesus died a “shameful” death, defeated by the very political powers the Messiah was prophesied to overcome.* Indeed, the Hebrew prophets did not foresee that Israel’s savior would be executed as a common criminal by Gentiles, *making Jesus’ crucifixion a “stumbling block” to scripturally literate Jews.* (1 Cor.1:23) Watch *Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet, Historical Lecture - Bart D. Ehrman* ------------------------------------------------------------------ Also, look up the following. *"End Times - Evil Bible .com"* *"The End of All Things is At Hand - The Church Of Truth"* *"ex-apologist: On One of the Main Reasons Why I Think Christianity is False (Reposted)"* *"Jesus the Apocalyptic Prophet - History for Atheists"* (Tim O'Neill is a former Christian and is familiar with most of the Biblical scholarship. He's been studying the scholarship and history for decades) *"Jesus Predicted a First Century Return Which Did Not Occur - by Alex Beyman - Medium"* *"Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return - Black Nonbelievers, Inc."*

[@epicofgilgamesh9964]

@Dan Jensen For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; ***and then he shall reward every man according to his works.*** Truly I tell you, ***some who are standing here will not taste death*** before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom Matthew 16:27-28 *Pre-emptive answers to common objections:* 1. “No one knows the day or the hour” means that the date cannot be known precisely. *However, that does not stop Jesus from repeatedly giving a general timeframe of several decades within which to expect his second coming.* 2. It can’t be interpreted to mean you and I as metaphorical apostles because he specifically says *“some of you standing here”,* as in the people he was talking to at that time. *The full context reinforces that, he was speaking to disciples who accompanied him to Caesar Phillipi who wanted to know how they would recognize the second coming.* 3. *It can’t be interpreted as referring to the transfiguration because the events described in verse 27 don’t happen at the transfiguration (Jesus, God and angels coming from the clouds, judging mankind according to their deeds).* Besides this, the transfiguration only satisfies one of these predictions, only partially, and only on a technicality. The New Testament was compiled long after Jesus died, so there was ample opportunity to make late additions, and one might speculate this was done to hedge their bets. Otherwise it seems like a silly, cruel prank to say something which clearly implies a near term second coming when what he really meant is “I’m gonna briefly float and glow for 2 guys later”. 4. *Daniel’s visions do not, by themselves, satisfy the claim either because they don’t clearly depict the second coming.* Rather, they’re fever dreams depicting seven apocalyptic creatures (representing kingdoms that ruled over the Jews up to that point) with some seriously dubious interpretive stretches and symbology going on. If this is all Jesus meant when he said some alive at that time would witness his return, like the transfiguration, it seems wildly misleading, bordering on a cruel prank. 5. *The 666/616 gematria code known as the number of the Beast must mean Nero/Neron, because only that name fits both 666 (Nero) and 616 (Neron).* Source: www.math.harvard.edu/~elkies/mp666.html. *This is because the book of Revelations was intended to metaphorically describe the fall of Rome,* in a time when Christians could not openly predict it. 6. It’s true that some of the events Christ said must occur before his second coming have not yet occurred. However, submitting this as proof that Christ must have meant something else in the verses supplied above presupposes that he actually was clairvoyant, instead of simply being wrong about those predictions too, because he was a regular human being without the ability to see the future. 7. For those who say that no Christian tastes death but lives on forever, it is clear Christ meant bodily death by other verses wherein he tells his traveling companions which signs they may personally expect to witness as his second coming approaches. *They, according to Christ, should anticipate those signs within their lifetimes and would know by those signs that his second coming was imminent.* There are two deaths: bodily and spiritual. 8. *Jesus’ resurrection does not fit the criteria supplied by the verse because he did not, on that occasion, “come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and reward each person according to what they have done.”* By that description it’s clear he is referring to his second coming, as explored more thoroughly in Revelations. 9. “When Christ said some standing there would not taste death before witnessing his return, that isn’t the kind of death he meant.” But it is. Hence “taste”. There are two deaths. The first bodily and the second spiritual. *He’s referring to the first (to merely taste, rather than to eat) as those saved in him will only briefly experience death before being resurrected.* 10. *He cannot have (only) meant the destruction of Jerusalem because the events described (Christ coming in the clouds with God and angels, judging men according to what they had done) did not occur when Jerusalem fell,* though it is one of the signs his followers were instructed to associate with an imminent eschaton. 11. “But Jesus performed miracles!” ….according to a book written by his devoted followers, used to convert more people to their religion. According to books written by Scientologists about L. Ron Hubbard, he was one of America’s first nuclear physicists, a war hero and the greatest humanitarian ever to live. And the Qur’an says that Muhammad once split the moon in half by pointing at it, then rejoined the halves. Was Muhammad therefore a true prophet? 12. “How do you explain all those fulfilled prophecies?” *Almost all of which are recorded in one book of the Bible, then recorded after the fact as having come true in a later book of the Bible.* This is a very easy trick. Observe: In 1998 I predicted that on Sept. 11, 2001 planes would collide with the WTC towers. Amazing! How did I know that? Am I clairvoyant?

[@youtube_chaplain]

ATTENTION!!!!!! HELL IS REAL !!! Where will you go when you die? Heaven or Hell? We can not hide our sins from God. Jesus Christ loves you and He died for our sins. We must repent and believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ if we want to be set free and saved from Hell. MARK 1:15 “.... the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.”

[@polythenewrappedme6102]

Jesus said only the Father knows the hour. So if any man says they know, I think they might not be telling the truth. The signs in Revelation have yet to happen.

[@squeakD]

Going to be a lot of butt hurt Christians over this interview.

[@TrisjenHarris1203]

Exactly!! They are going to be furious and label this as heresy from the devil. 😂

[@rainbowkrampus]

TBF, they love it though. Really plays into the whole persecution complex.

[@jeannemontoya2323]

I’m a very devout Christian and I’m not butt hurt at all. I’m just so thankful for my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and how He has revealed Himself to me in so many ways. He alone is the Way, the Truth and the Life.

[@rainbowkrampus]

@@jeannemontoya2323 "I'm not mad, you're mad!" Or, passive aggressive christianized, "Bless my heart? Well, bless your heart."

[@BloonChip]

Why do y'all always come after Christians? You guys come at us, like we are exposing something you don't want to know. The world hates truth right now, people are blinded, and there is so much demonic influence going around, and people are just laughing while people get murdered and killed. All you're doing, is disappointing yourself. You try so hard to change us, we ain't falling for your tricks, and your worldly new order. Watch, the antichirst will come one day, and they will be revealed to the entire world. We'll see who's right soon enough. All I'll say, is don't expect too much after that. If you really did value your life, you would start getting to know Jesus Christ. Put your trust into him, because in the end, isn't the only thing you people care about is happiness? If you think there is more to life then just being a accidental mistake, which serves no purpose, I would strongly suggest you take I look into reading the Bible, and if you don't like reading, you should start praying to Christ.

[@venenareligioest410]

Listening to Dr Fredriksen is an amazing experience and convinces me, not that I needed convincing, what an utter load of nonsense ALL religion is! As Oscar Wilde says “‘TRUTH’ in matters of religion is just an opinion that has survived!”

[@Marabarra134]

no he never existed. they had revelations of a suffering and dying messiah. Marc created a fictional story on earth.

[@survivingparadisepodcast]

I tend to agree

[@oxajenwashere]

Jesus did in fact walk this earth

[@BloonChip]

Jesus ain't his full name you know?

[@johnkerr1113]

I work with an orphanage for over 1,000 street children here in a 3rd world country... catholic and seriously religious... however, when the priest that runs the orphanage asks his congregation who wants to go to heaven ? 400 hands shoot up in the air... when asked who wants to go to heaven TOMORROW?.. Zero.... as an atheist ( I prefer non-believer ) I often wonder why people dont want to go meet their creator asap if its all so wonderful... personally I think it is all nonsense but provides lots of jobs...... many to people I would luv to see and hear less of.. peterson, ham, craig, turek, lennox, desouza to name but a few.... enjoy your interviews but for interest only not concrete usable information.. a myth is a myth.... hebrews 11.1 kills me....hope is 'substance' ? and things not seen are 'evidence'? ..laughable in english..

[@venenareligioest410]

There are NO prophets in religion, only profits!!

[@apparentbeing]

Apocalyptic prophet never fails because end comes with 100% certainty

[@scambammer6102]

end of what? humans? so what. The universe? We don't known if that will end or not.

[@CopperWalker]

@@scambammer6102We do know because of the recorded evidence in the Bible that Jesus will return and that the world will end. There is still hope because Jesus will take His children with Him (those who truly believe in Jesus Christ)

[@69eddieD]

@@CopperWalker Nope

[@CopperWalker]

@@69eddieD Yes there is hope

[@CopperWalker]

@R BolandWhat about you? What do you believe about this? Also, since my trust is in Jesus, nothing anybody says will get me away from Jesus. And, I don't trust human wisdom

[@murrismiller2312]

this woman INSTANTLY marred the truth

[@astrogumbo]

You're living in those times dude. Its not very hard to realize this

[@LuciferAlmighty]

How so??

[@thecatsonholiday5932]

Paco. Nothing happens.

[@theastronomer5800]

That's what Christians have been saying from Day 1.

[@meeksde]

For these times there’s Scientology. 😆 😆 😆

[@youtube_chaplain]

ATTENTION!!!!!! HELL IS REAL !!! Where will you go when you die? Heaven or Hell? We can not hide our sins from God. Jesus Christ loves you and He died for our sins. We must repent and believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ if we want to be set free and saved from Hell. MARK 1:15 “.... the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.”