Jesus is Dead - Robert Price - Skepticon 2 Redux

[@THEAKRIAN]

What's the difference between agnosticism and apathy? - I don't know and I don't care

[@wmthewyld]

Good one!!

[@fluentblasphemy9138]

Adrian Mendoza Oooh! OOh! I know! No sane person gives serious concern to unsubstantiated claims, which are distinct from human experience. Did I get it?!

[@phoenixkennedy5927]

answer and not answer at the same time!

[@jensandersen7011]

@@phoenixkennedy5927 One hand clapping.

[@rationalmartian]

Just the sound of his voice is special. The content superb. Wow. Imagine how poor old squeaky, scratchy Dinesh feels when he hears Price's voice.

[@geoengr3]

Dinesh's balls shrivel at the thought of a debate with Price. And rightly so.

[@larrywright885]

Price quotes Paul Tillich: "[Christian] Fundamentalism has demonic aspects in that it ... forces Christians to suppress knowledge". Apologetics leads to despair, Price says here, and nails why I ultimately gave up on Christianity after almost 40 years: modern apologetics destroys faith. Hebrews 1:11 was an attempt to differentiate, but it is no longer taught in Christian churches. Which puts me in the position of abandoning Christianity not because of the Bible, or the faith itself, but because I could no longer deny how ultimately horrid that "old time religion" has always been. Great talk, Dr. Price.

[@nathanjohnson1948]

@John Digsby let's not shoot the general for trying to win, can he be tried for war crimes? What do we do with a general that slaughters babies? Or what do we do with a general that allows the taking of young virgins for sex slaves?

[@stephenirving1737]

@@nathanjohnson1948 Lets see. What do we do with a general that slaughters babies and what do we do with a general that allows the taking of young virgins for sex slaves? Maybe call him Moses and dedicate the first testament to him?

[@VJScope]

I love his analogy of TV and anti-monster presuppositions. That's just pure brilliance!

[@alliantdevil]

Just wanted to add that I've never seen Robert Price speak before. He's like Kevin Smith with a degree, fantastic speech and Q&A.

[@scottbignell]

"like Kevin Smith with a degree" - haha! love it!

[@lessevdoolbretsim]

I see him as kind of a heathen, Santa Claus.

[@AmitKumar-qz2us]

Religion is political cult to controll masses Religion is a Mental Illness Religious God invented by Religious books Why did not religoius god Present before religious book written Religion is most unscientific thought ever invented . No book send by any God. God did not write any book for human There are many big lie , Fraud done by evil people in the name of God. “Why did not religious God made religous animals. Like Muslim elephant, Christian elephant, Jews elephant etc. if animals don't religious than they are non believers” conversion gang must converter them into there religion . Religion always distory and courrpt local culture. If religious books are really word of God ,why it is so Unscientific, Imprecise & Muddled All flat Earth religion have faith and believe based not facts based . Religion is based on Fear , conquest, conversion and invasion

[@briankaul1201]

I love that, although Price does not believe in the truth of scripture, he nevertheless draws valuable lessons from it, and continues to see value in the tradition. He's very calm in his approach to the subject.

[@munstrumridcully]

I love Robert Price, he is not only so knowledgeable about his area of study, but he likes comics! A truly great man ^^

[@adifferentstrummer]

...and he's kind. A great man indeed

[@differous01]

munstrumridcully I think Robert sounds like actor Wallace Shawn's character in 'Star Trek- DS9' - Grand Nagus Zek. He wouldn't have to keep pushing his hair behind his ears if he had Zek's lobes.

[@repairdepartment5918]

Someone should make a comic book version of the bible... to get the young uns

[@tafkaga]

I love listening to this guy.

[@alliantdevil]

Thumbs up for the badass duct tape mic...and the talk :) thanks for the upload

[@hambone_productions]

The board was a compact weird locked up system so I couldn't get a feed for my camera. Luckily I had enough XLR, and a 58 in my case so I duck taped it and ran a direct line to the camera. I also built duck tape supports so the whole 3 pound rig wouldn't fall over. Looks like shit but it worked :)

[@SalisburyKarateClub]

HamboneProductions enjoyed the talk, but please give a hand held mike to the questioners, would have loved to hear them without having to blare my speakers

[@catleugh]

Derek Martin Especially the one that took five minutes to ask his question.

[@groomedtodie]

There should be a religion for duct tape. It truly is remarkable and fixes all problems, from jimmy rigging a mic, to a good old-fashioned kidnapping. Amen to duct tape!

[@machintelligence]

groomedtodie A complete toolkit consists of duct tape and WD-40. If it doesn't move and is supposed to use WD-40. If it moves and it isn't supposed to, use duct tape.

[@bozo5632]

Great presentation. This guy is a national treasure.

[@Faeriedarke]

Such a great mind, this guy fascinates me.

[@Faeriedarke]

VideoAudioDisco09 He is such an articulate speaker, I could listen to him all day. He is one of the great minds of our time.

[@superdog797]

So you're what they call a chubby chaser, eh? more cushin' for the pushin'

[@lesliedodds4011]

HA HA HA HA THE FACT JESUS IS DEAD PROVES HES VERY MUCH ALIVE WHAT AN ARSEHOLE

[@AmitKumar-qz2us]

Religion is political cult to controll masses Religion is a Mental Illness Religious God invented by Religious books Why did not religoius god Present before religious book written Religion is most unscientific thought ever invented . No book send by any God. God did not write any book for human There are many big lie , Fraud done by evil people in the name of God. “Why did not religious God made religous animals. Like Muslim elephant, Christian elephant, Jews elephant etc. if animals don't religious than they are non believers” conversion gang must converter them into there religion . Religion always distory and courrpt local culture. If religious books are really word of God ,why it is so Unscientific, Imprecise & Muddled All flat Earth religion have faith and believe based not facts based . Religion is based on Fear , conquest, conversion and invasion

[@kbrown1054]

@@AmitKumar-qz2us not true. Joe Biden and the left don't believe in God at all. Do your homework

[@deltabluesdavidraye]

This guy is great ,he approaches every angle with naught but logic and reasoning.

[@DCronk-qc6sn]

And loves Trump! What a guy!

[@johnlinden7398]

A MOST COHERENT AND ENLIGHTENED TRUTH TELLER ! RIGHT IS PRICE !

[@deborahkhora1868]

Dr. Price is definitely one of my faves- right there with Hitchens!

[@supercriticality]

Look how earnestly he listens to the question at 44:27. This man is a treasure!

[@RobDegrey]

The Price is right!

[@freelightexpress]

+Rob Degrey Indeed it is :)

[@PoFFizdaMan]

hah! brilliant

[@gideona.dunkleyiii699]

👏👏👏

[@johnfargher99]

I like Robert Price even though he does look like an Old Testament Prophet.

[@seekwisdom5102]

+Gooners Rule (Goonersrule) He does!!

[@TraderTimmy]

+Gooners Rule (Goonersrule) Yup. It's ironic.

[@Chebab-Chebab]

+Gooners Rule (Goonersrule) No; an old, balding wookie.

[@johnfargher99]

Don't think he's balding.

[@Chebab-Chebab]

Gooners Rule If he were a wookie he would be.

[@vaderetro264]

"I don't believe there is a god. Hallelujah!" [Robert M. Price]

[@Shangori]

Damn, this man can talk!

[@BlackEpyon]

Shangori And he's got an awesome beard :D

[@marcduperron6062]

BlackEpyon I was thinking to myself the same thing: He's got an awesome beard!

[@marcduperron6062]

Shangori He talks as much as my girlfriend. I guess he has a female brain.

[@BlackEpyon]

Marc Duperron He's got content though :/

[@Shangori]

Marc Duperron Well, if she's as entertaining as this guy, I don't see the problem.

[@nicksklavos]

This man is so ridiculously knowledgeable.

[@jeanetteyork2582]

Thank you for an educational video on a great scholar and humanist. Truth may be difficult to find, and it may take a long interval, but it is always worth seeking.

[@hipsterabster]

That '50s monster movie Dr Price mentions at 6:45, 'I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist!', could well be the title of my autobiography.. Childhood religious indoctrination is truly a nightmare of horrific proportions..

[@exilfromsanity]

I like the duct tape holding the microphones together. Pure class.

[@movieklump]

Why is this man talking to that parrot.

[@Thornspyre81]

In the three years since your comnent was posted not one like or response ?

[@Spaceghost87x]

😂😂😂 blasphemy 😂😂😂😂

[@ingenuity168]

🤣

[@epiphanydrums5427]

🤣 (“swine parrot”)

[@TraderTimmy]

Loved this talk. Really great. Entertaining and thought provoking.

[@blacksabbath1022]

Price is my favorite skeptic to listen too.

[@Instramark]

Pure virtuoso! Thanks to all involved!

[@gilbertdaroy6080]

Richard Carrier and Robert Price are the top tiers.

[@geoengr3]

Absolutely. I love how Carrier simultaneously brings down religion in the ivory tower while bringing "the good news" to those of us down in the streets. Future humans will likely worship him for bringing humanity into the light.

[@rmyers99]

This video was fantastic. Wish I could have been there. My first one was Skepticon 3.

[@jeffersonianideal]

38:48 Other than being able to retrieve stray beachballs with relative ease, what is the benefit for all of mankind if an entity has the ability to walk upon water?

[@jeffersonianideal]

@Marc Lanthier Thanks. I hope the pious will also appreciate it.

[@FakingANerve]

@@jeffersonianideal you must not yet have experienced a Florida beach week.

[@50iraqidinar]

Tell that to Steve Irwin

[@seanthomas2423]

Wow, did not know Robert Price is a fan of Toho. Makes him more respectable in my eyes.

[@SpecialHandlingUnit]

Isn't he the captain of a crab boat featured in Deadliest catch?

[@hifibrony]

A wonderfully straightforward explanation of Bayesian reasoning. Which is all we primates have to reason through the universe.

[@glen6945]

if you can write a religion that is good enough and you tell it long enough ,someone is going to buy it and sell it to some one else.

[@koltirasrip5775]

Glenn parent Indeed...the greatest pyramid scheme in the history of the world. The only guy who really wins is the guy who started it, and everyone else is just scrambling to get other people signed up.

[@philseida5238]

A National Treasure Dr. Price is with His Logic, Reason and Humor and doesn’t take himself to serious. Great Intellectual Man.

[@geoengr3]

Scientology and Mormonism are proof your theory is holding up.

[@margaretaticarat7871]

You bought his anyway the antichrist religion.

[@bobover6474]

These guys are good but not necessary for people like me. Ever since I was a child in Sunday school, I just couldn't believe in the talking snakes and walking on water crap. I never saw a supernatural miracle and I saw nothing loving about god. I felt spiritual but I knew it was just my emotions and my goodness. I didn't need god to tell me hurting others is bad. Church was a good place to sleep and mix with girls. Biblical scholars are smart but I didn't need a bible scholar to tell me what's fairy tale and what isn't. I new life was unfair and cruel, due to nature. God just didn't do enough good to satisfy me. I saw through the hypocrisy of fellow church members. Kids were more interested in living and having fun than in god. Adults were more interested in surviving and making money than in god. I saw through all of it. It was just the best place for people to group together and feel needed and pretend they'll live forever.

[@NYCBG]

The really astonishing thing is that the pastor who taught you in Sunday school was brainwashed as a little child, just like he tried to brainwash you. It's an endless chain. You will be hard pressed to find a Christian who decided to convert at the age of twenty-something, after he had been studying comparative religion for many years! No, they were all brainwashed practically since the day they were born.

[@乙-f1s]

I was all like 'How did the snakes talk? They don't have vocal cords or big brains. Or a tongue that can talk.' They just shrugged.

[@freelightexpress]

Dr. Price rocks! :)

[@nickg5010]

The problem seems to be that no-one 'knows' God in the sense that you might 'know' a close friend. Some people clearly 'know of Him' and worship Him as they have been instructed so to do. Unless and until He is 'known' The Bible will remain largely an impenetrable mystery. It is predicted in The Bible however, that one day everyone will 'know' God and perhaps then the endless wrangling will cease (or at least diminish). The nature of God is for the time being a mystery and currently speculation abounds. If Christ comes again it might at last be possible to put the matter to bed, but who knows when that will be?

[@utah133]

Joseph Smith made it up, IMHO. Just before his murder, he fully expected rescue. But by that time, even his followers had enough of him. BTW, it was more of a battle than a martyrdom. He shot three people before they got him. Pistols had been smuggled in to Joe and his fellow prisoners, along with a bit of wine and tobacco. The pistol Joe used to kill three men was an Allen & Thurber pepperbox, a forerunner of the revolver. (Ex-Mormon who looked deeper here.)

[@geoengr3]

"There is really no surviving evidence for a Jesus." [DROPS MIC].

[@lepidoptera9337]

There is no surviving evidence for Bob the Neanderthal, either. Does that mean there never was a Bob among the Neanderthal tribes?

[@DBCisco]

I find it amazing that we have to debate whether zombies are real.

[@Spaceghost87x]

" Exactly "

[@chrispbacon3042]

Zombies are real, but we refer to them by their common name which is Christians.

[@jimkarkaloutsos4267]

That is silly to dismiss the possible existence of GOD

[@chrispbacon3042]

Jim Karkaloutsos Which god?

[@jimkarkaloutsos4267]

@@chrispbacon3042 That question is not relevant, and just a superficial tool used to loop the argument. I guess any notion of a transcendental being would be valid, but If it helps to be specific, then the God of the bible

[@sakkel.7357]

look how easily he swallowed the holocaust story; hook, line and sinker! Where did his critical thinking go?!

[@hipsterabster]

"...so, why is the fundamentalist and the apologist on the war-path? Well, it's against himself! The unbeliever that he goes on crusade against is in his own mind." (14:30)

[@billkeon880]

I rewatch this talk every few months or so, just for the entertainment value let alone the great logic and desire for truth

[@xerox1959]

Interresting to listen to...but for me living in West-Europe, you can see what a world of difference there is between christianity in the USA and over here. Sometimes hard to understand. But this is almost "alien" to us.

[@GodmyX]

The same in the Czech Republic where there is according to the statistics a majority of atheists (we are basically an "atheistic state").

[@Scarletpimpanel73]

+xerox1959 Hmm pretty much - mainstream American Christianity is the "loony" religious fringe in Western Europe. Such miracle believing evangelicals exist but they are not even close to mainstream and public discourse pretty much laughs them off or more often ignores them completely. It's just not on the radar.

[@captaink5217]

+Tim King I wouldn't be so quick to write the Christians in as not being violent, it's only because they don't have power right now but if those type of people win elections and can make laws do you really think they wouldn't do what Muslims do???

[@TraderTimmy]

Captain K "do you really think they wouldn't do what Muslims do???" I don't think Chrisitians in America would turn into the kind of muslims who do terror. But there's always that chance. At this time though, we can say christians are the most powerful religion in America. In fact, most of our america leaders worship god, so are they not in power already?

[@TraderTimmy]

Phelan Vatican City is a sovereign nation, head of state and all. Not much happening there. Just playing the devil's advocate here.

[@Radioposting]

If I could sum up what I got out of this lecture... Seeking the t(T)ruth is virtuous, but claiming that you know it is immoral. Also, I heard a little bit of WK Clifford, “It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone to believe anything on insufficient evidence.”

[@Gumikrukon]

The Man! The Legend! :) Thanks for the video!! :)

[@ikatgoat8578]

9:01~ Price tips his Hand to the crowd with "Following the GRATEFUL DEAD around the country ", Yep i knew it he is Gerry Garcia .

[@jackkern]

Robert M. Price, here are his credentials as Presented to Wikipedia described by Robert M. Price himself. "A former Baptist minister, he was the editor of the Journal of Higher Criticism from 1994 until it ceased publication in 2003, and has written extensively about the Cthulhu Mythos, a "shared universe" created by the writer H. P. Lovecraft.[7] He also co-wrote a book with his wife, Carol Selby Price, Mystic Rhythms: The Philosophical Vision of Rush (1999), on the rock band Rush. "Robert M. Price is a fellow of the Jesus Seminar, a group of 150 writers and scholars who study the historicity of Jesus, the organizer of a Web community for those interested in the history of Christianity,[8] and sits on the advisory board of the Secular Student Alliance.[3] He is a religious skeptic, especially of orthodox Christian beliefs, occasionally describing himself as a Christian atheist." As I read Robert M. Price's Resume, he comes across as a man who’s views change with times based on what might sell on the book shelves month to month. "describing himself as a Christian atheist." ???

[@TraderTimmy]

+Jack Kern You might understand he was self identifying as a christian atheist to be tongue in cheek. He's making light of his transition from theist to atheist.

[@sedeslav]

"Propaganda" is a word first used in catholic church : whose official title is "sacra congregatio christiano nomini propagando" an organization of Roman Catholic cardinals founded in 1622.

[@Gamepak]

walking on water does not count, Chris Angel can do this too

[@Tysto]

28:50 "The Hunt for the Hidden Relic" AKA "Das Jesus Video" AKA "Holy Relic From Two Thousand Years Ago" on KZbin.

[@RocketKirchner]

Soren Kierkegaard said that to make any attempt to prove the gospel is blasphemy . He also said “ Believe or be offended “

[@bouncycastle955]

So?

[@SigmaElement]

@hamboeproductions i would like to translate and dub your videos in spanish, and reupload to a channel directed yo mexican (and spanish speaking) audience... how can i fo that? Who can give me permission?

[@mc_pyro5269]

33:40 every christian ever

[@Aleph-Noll]

he changes topics so fast haha

[@marketingTUNEUP]

I'd like to hear more on the issue of how Jews were suppressed in the 1st century as Bart Ehrman points out when answering why we don't we have anything on Jesus in 1st century. Given so much of atheist foundations begin with no histrionics.

[@worldpeace8299]

I don't understand at all anyone picking their belief systems off a shelf. The teaching that is the new testament is something to be studied, not adopted for want of a belief. One seeks to know God, not be assured, without evidence, or confidence, that He is there. By the time we become capable of any kind of reflectiveness we have already been through a mighty process of conditioning. At the heart of the spiritual message there is the assumption that we have profoundly misunderstood who and what we are. And this much, to my mind, ought to be obvious. There is much talk of rationale and evidence based living, but I see no evidence of it in individuals, whose rationale seeks only to support their untested and unfounded belief systems. What appears before consciousness as a complete world is logically subjective. But it is this world view, as a whole and in its many parts, that can and should be the subject of questioning. Our minds were made up for us, and we were merely duplicitous in the act

[@aoshishinamori2037]

This is Luke Skywalker, the Last Biblical Jedi.

[@paulhayward4383]

he looks like orson wells...

[@Eliot451]

Why am I reminded of Orson Wells?

[@knightsofnee8626]

33:41 Just cracks me up everytime xD

[@tomnanD3]

Dead people don't come back to life. PERIOD.

[@phoenixkennedy5927]

Bernadette Roberts interview - KZbin

[@barbaraannen3340]

Starts @ 1:00

[@geraldamos292]

That guy on mythvision stabbed Dr price In the back..unreal

[@glen6945]

i still like the hoaz of those early photos of angels in the forest with the young girls and one of the girls when she was dieing finally said it was all a hoaz bye their father ,but many people believed and died believing it.

[@stvbrsn]

Proof reading. Try it.

[@walkerflocker7811]

Dr Bob is treasure

[@23.10-k1v]

9:18 yeah , they can choose whatever they want , this is tricky though, they all chose to think high of themselves and accuse falsehood from a moral high ground , this is where the truth comes in , what about you , are you truthful , than there’s silence , denial , intentional blindness for reality = alice in wonderland

[@Daruqe]

Unfortunate comments about Peter Singer, but it would be a bad sign if I couldn't find anything I disagreed with Price on. Not that I excuse him for that comment; it seemed to be purely emotional, reactionary, and blindly anthropocentric.

[@briankaul1201]

I thought it was funny.

[@turinhorse]

effortlessly articulate. everfount

[@robzrob]

Good stuff.

[@henochparks]

Price has been caught making things up so many times it is a mystery why people listen to him.

[@blackswan8653]

When it comes to Jesus, ask these questions. Did Jesus die? Is Jesus God? Can God die? Contradictions are bound to come from the answers. Can a god die? Which part of the Jesus story in the bible must necessarily be made up due to the contradictions of these three questions. When Jesus says in the bible, "why have thou forsaken me?", isn't that filled with the absolute contradiction that Jesus was god?

[@jmaniak1]

Stewie Griffin - what kind of sacrifice is it if Jesus rose after three days to go drink margaritas in a magical garden?

[@hicktoni]

N T Wright is just Falwell in a better suit? Really?

[@zusyee8926]

I'M BACK BITCHESSSSSS

[@SamIAm-kz4hg]

Fucking nice!

[@petewoodroffemusic]

Once again shame about the production. Why was there no mic for the questions???

[@spiderlime]

if a genuine godzilla attack would happen, there would be news coverage of it almost immediately, from multiple sources, and even more importantly there would be verifiable evidence from the scene for all to study. you also need scientific knowledge to interpert the data and an objective mindframe, which the writers of the bible did not have, as the founders of a local and particular belief system

[@thevirus7368]

God is THE most despicable, horrific, evil character ever in fiction.

[@sandraolson8635]

the ghost I see you are a fan of Dan Barker.

[@HegelsOwl]

Twenty minutes in, and nothing's been shown.

[@kennethkossan5547]

We got plenty of’ babies. PLENTY.

[@GodmyX]

This guy is absolutely hilarious!

[@billyraybar]

Jesus croaked. Get over it

[@ramoncales1210]

He lives.

[@AJGschwind]

The duct tape tho... come on

[@joehinojosa8314]

Maybe Jesus is just "Missing In Action".

[@JPJosefPictures]

Luke Skywalker explaining why the Force isn’t real haha. No to be real, I admire Price and how he is talking and the way he thinks. 😃👍

[@damiendavis.ezekiel5697]

How could someone who was an evangelical Christian for as long as he was not believe. Too much knowledge.

[@BrickBuilder50]

How could you believe for one second something that there is no evidence for

[@jamesjahavey1681]

It rains fish and frogs, air ships can chick out an anchor and some one climb down and bowling greens are flat they are often made of earth????1 Corinthians 8:1, 2.Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up. 2 If anyone thinks he knows something, he does not yet know it as he should know it.

[@flatsun2132]

This Guy and Randall Carlson and Bill hicks

[@sweetshaman]

He sure knows how to ramble - but there is so much crap in the Bible I can't blame him.

[@jeffersonianideal]

Nice duct tape job.

[@freedomoperator6502]

If it can't happen now it didn't happen then. There is no probability for that which cannot happen.

[@alexanderjakubsen2198]

Why the hate on Peter Singer?

[@ndeamonk24]

So did Hume Nuff said 💯💯💯

[@WheelsofSteal]

Dropping bombs on some big names.. I like

[@bcg3166]

A child is not a Christian child, not a Muslim child, but a child of Christian parents or a child of Muslim parents. This latter nomenclature, by the way, would be an excellent piece of consciousness-raising for the children themselves. A child who is told she is a 'child of Muslim parents' will immediately realize that religion is something for her to choose -or reject- when she becomes old enough to do so. Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion ME: ......I have questions. Christidom have no answers. Just because something is written, doesn't make it any truer than a Harry Potter's movie or book..

[@BBQFanNo1]

Jesus said " If the world hate you, ye know that it hated Me before it hated you. If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. But all these things will they do unto you for My name's sake, because they know not him that sent Me. If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin. He that hateth Me hateth my Father also. If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both Me and my Father." John 15: 18-24

[@damarnicrosz1081]

exodus 21

[@damarnicrosz1081]

Owning another human being as property is moral isnt it? ;) Darkmatter2525 go look

[@georgemiron5627]

+Bill Bass - Very good... can you also quote from other works of fiction?

[@glen6945]

when the car is on e-you need to get gasoline

[@TheNo1Atheist1]

How come someone that never existed, be dead??

[@marshallmackey8990]

Brilliant