JETT LAWRENCE - A GENERATIONAL TALENT OR NO?

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3 жыл бұрын

Daniel Blair, Steve Matthes, and Jason Thomas debate on where Jett Lawrence stands as far as being a generational talent. Leave your thoughts!
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@markmccurdy3069
@markmccurdy3069 7 ай бұрын
Love listening to this 2 years later!
@aus-rider
@aus-rider 8 ай бұрын
Daniel was spot on and called it, JT and Steve, how many titles now and 22-0 😂
@stephenwilson1012
@stephenwilson1012 3 жыл бұрын
Ricky on a 125 was racing 27 year olds on 2 strokes who didn't workout and barely practiced. Nowadays everyone is on a program. Not taking anything away from RC but the fields were not the same
@SoleAddictions
@SoleAddictions 3 жыл бұрын
Facts.
@garrett3234
@garrett3234 3 жыл бұрын
takes way more skill though to ride a 2 stroke and makes you a better rider. you take ricky or James they are waxing these people
@oskjan1
@oskjan1 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! The fastest guys these days are so close to the physical limit or what is possible nowadays, that someone with generational talent doesn't stick out like they used to. Everyone is on full throttle all the time and scrubbing everything. The areas where large chunks of time can be found are few and far between.
@SoleAddictions
@SoleAddictions 3 жыл бұрын
@@garrett3234 yessir it does . Riding a 2 stroke for so long made me such a better rider when I finally got on a 4 stroke . Made my endurance better as well.
@garrett3234
@garrett3234 3 жыл бұрын
@@SoleAddictions yea i like the sport now 250fs are cool but idk the whole bike program era argument isnt it for me cause James and ricky had there programs they just werent showing people or buddy buddy posting inta pics etc it was all cut throat business thats why i dont think era and bikes should be compared imo
@buck_maize111
@buck_maize111 2 ай бұрын
Ok now that it's 2 years later.. jett won 450 mx title with a perfect season.. then won SMX 450 title, then won 450 sx title. All this in his rookie year.. How are we all thinking so far? He's the best in the world right now.
@ecoultmx96
@ecoultmx96 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel is on the right track here. Jett's talent on the bike at his age is unbelievable. The results of RC and JS are damn near unattainable in this era of racing, the field is so much deeper, training programs, etc.
@seaeff6428
@seaeff6428 2 жыл бұрын
James’s isn’t. Dungey had 19 more outdoor wins and 2 more outdoor titles than JS, Dungey also had 16 less sx wins but also 2 more titles than Stewart, and overall had 3 total more AMA 450 wins. Dungey’s career is was underrated. I agree with Jett becoming a sensation though, if you look at the field and the ages of these guys Jetts 450 career will be pretty soft, his age group is shimoda, mosiman, vohland, swoll, which he’s the youngest of and is way better than all of them. Then look at the guys out of his age group, Nichols, Jmart, Hampshire, Craig, Cooper, aside from Cooper they’ll all be retired by then. The only current 450 guys that’ll still be there when Jett comes up is Webb, AC, and Sexton and they’ll be close to 27-28. I would not be shocked to see him 3 or more titles indoors and outdoors. Having a similar career to Dunge
@rbrinks5
@rbrinks5 Жыл бұрын
Coming back to this video over two years later when Jett is 16-0 in his 1st 450 season JT and Matthes need to apologize to Daniel Blair daily
@jamiebradshaw-mo1qs
@jamiebradshaw-mo1qs 7 ай бұрын
Look how this has aged, Daniel Blair was correct all along and Steve gets egg on his face again.
@1969cmp
@1969cmp 2 жыл бұрын
....it only matters what you win today....
@bartdebuono
@bartdebuono 11 ай бұрын
How did this age?
@brianbennett2557
@brianbennett2557 2 жыл бұрын
That was hard to watch, I’m with you Daniel Blair
@LonlyJace
@LonlyJace Жыл бұрын
This has aged well for Daniel
@MrBobbit666
@MrBobbit666 3 жыл бұрын
Jett will be one of the greats he oozes greatness as a rider and as a person
@brooksy2093
@brooksy2093 2 жыл бұрын
Well looks like Daniel nailed it !!
@MrHtwarrior
@MrHtwarrior 3 жыл бұрын
Outstandable!
@appalachianwilds1146
@appalachianwilds1146 2 жыл бұрын
Well 9 months later what does Steve have to say after him winning the supercross 250 title
@KosmicHRTRacingTeam
@KosmicHRTRacingTeam 3 жыл бұрын
So many great racers right now, so makes it hard to tell. But there is something special about the way Jett rides. Watch close and it is a work of art. Smooth is fast
@rmack611
@rmack611 3 жыл бұрын
It's generational TALENT not generational results that's how simple this argument is! Sure he might nico izzi but he also might go rv but at this time he's a generational TALENT! Not one of the greats
@Ajedwards302
@Ajedwards302 3 жыл бұрын
Thank god someone said it. These clowns acting like stew and RC and all the other greats became greats only in their first couple years and nothing after that mattered 😂
@thomasbrim5524
@thomasbrim5524 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I’m 5 minutes in and the Whole time I’ve been watching and reading comments I was kinda thinking this same shit. I wasn’t gonna comment but you said it well. Talking about his Talent is just ones way of gaging somebody’s potential. But since the airing of this, Jetts already bagged two 250 Titles and he’s 18 I think. And just went 1-1 this past weekend at round one of the outdoor series. He’s fucking oozing with talent and to me this argument is fucking silly. He was born with that. You can’t reach his skill. The way he charged every minute of both motos this past weekend was super impressive and makes it look stupid dumb easy. The track was rough this weekend too
@SoleAddictions
@SoleAddictions 3 жыл бұрын
Weigandt is right . Mathis pisses me off with how smug he is . Jett is an amazing talent . Most certainly generational . He will be remembered. The arguments are ridiculous against why he shouldn’t be generational. James Stewart was racing old dudes who had no workout regimen and ate hot dogs for dinner. Jett Lawrence is racing in a class where literally EVERYONE is on a training program and he came right in and was able to win , immediately. He’s an amazing young talent and he’s going to progress. Saying he didn’t win supercross championship like that doesn’t hold weight . Like bro, he fell and had to sit out a couple rounds . No shit he didn’t win the championship. He’s better than 90% of people in his class , hands down, no question. Jett will be a legend of the sport , mark my words .
@nevermindd1
@nevermindd1 3 жыл бұрын
he didn’t have to sit out any rounds in sx he didn’t start that one race at indy but besides that he was there for all of them and only won three races which is nothing mind blowing I mean Barcia Wilson Ciancirulo all did the same thing at around his age and they aren’t considered generational talent and also Stewart wasn’t racing just a bunch of old dudes with no cardio he was racing preston brown Langston Tedesco Roncada Reed jesseman Hansen and short and he never really straight up lost in against those dudes. and Jett was only won 5 races combined in 33 professional starts he never gone 1-1 in Mx and he can’t even keep the points lead that’s not generational it’s just another contender in a field with a bunch of other contenders
@kaneCarter_
@kaneCarter_ 3 жыл бұрын
Still doesn't make him a great. Comparing him to guys with multiple championships is a joke
@nevermindd1
@nevermindd1 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaneCarter_ how? If you wanna put him in the category of generational talent you gotta look at the generational talent from before RC Stewart Pastrana RV are guys who were considered generational talent they all had a championship within 1 pro season and they all won there first race within 10 pro starts Jett is in 3rd pro season 2nd full season with only 5 career wins to show for it I mean j mart had 5 wins and a championship in his 2nd full season and not once has he ever been considered generational talent.
@kaneCarter_
@kaneCarter_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@nevermindd1 Why Just Martin? Nearly All the 250 guys have won motos out there and a few championships so why aren't they all considered generational talent? Why are we singling out a rider who hasn't won a single championship. Let alone 5+ championships like the goats of the sport. I like jett he's a great rider but is not deserving of being considered a Rc. JS. Rv. Rd. TP. Considering the facts
@bewimotos
@bewimotos 3 жыл бұрын
jett is racing average riders, a injured jmar that hasnt won anything since 2015, a cooper that just sealed the deal on a sx title. if he is so much better as blair sais, he should be dominating all these riders
@brentfreude8499
@brentfreude8499 2 жыл бұрын
Serious pulp mx needs to chill and really make room for the other platforms
@hoodedcobra1531
@hoodedcobra1531 3 жыл бұрын
Guys gotta stop blowing Jett… kid good but will he be able to keep it going and get the red plate back???
@adi0malka
@adi0malka 3 жыл бұрын
They're doing him no favors with all this hype.... IMO Max Vohland is gonna be something big in the future
@seaeff6428
@seaeff6428 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah for sure. He’s the fastest kid on the track week in week out, just starting in 15th+ is the problem. Look at the lap times. Bent muffler after bad start and crash and at 250 mins in he 1+ seconds faster than everyone. When he starts 7th or better it’s going to be hard for anyone else to win.
@Upthebroncos310
@Upthebroncos310 3 жыл бұрын
@@seaeff6428 I just don’t know what’s going on with his starts, In SX he was killing starts in 90% of the races and even at the start of the outdoors take out the first race at pala he seemed to be starting well.
@garrett3234
@garrett3234 3 жыл бұрын
seriously comparing him to RV and Js7 is crazy imo pump the brakes
@seaeff6428
@seaeff6428 3 жыл бұрын
@@garrett3234 I don’t want to stir the pot too much, but I will say the field and the fields experience is wayyy deeper than what RV had to deal with.
@dekancaine
@dekancaine 2 жыл бұрын
This didn’t age well. Daniel nailed it
@LiverpoolFC658
@LiverpoolFC658 Жыл бұрын
Hey Matthes , Is Jett still not on Stew's level ?? Rookie 450 season 8 moto's 8 wins ??
@tjbradley5261
@tjbradley5261 2 жыл бұрын
this is the first time I've heard "generational talent" in the context of Moto. Love to see it.
@andy347495
@andy347495 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i would not say Jett is even close to what stew was when he turned pro.
@sunrealclothing
@sunrealclothing 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are funny to watch you banter... Get em Steve! lol
@Rijsel_Whale
@Rijsel_Whale 3 жыл бұрын
Very recently, AC should have been the next big guy on the sport. He was dominating every rider in his class. In the end, Cooper Webb has 2 450SX titles, 2 250SX tiltes and 1 250MX title while AC has 1 250MX title. He's far from the previous "generational talents" of previous era: he hasn't immediatly dominated his class SX or MX nor revolutionized the sport like JS technically or RC on the work load and dedication. Finally, Age in irrelevant. There's no way to say he will be a better rider at the end of his career than Shimoda. Some guys bloom early, some don't. Talent his not a variable set of skills you receive at age 0 and that you can improve linearly with time: some learn small steps, some don't evolve then explose, some have way more skills than other young then stagnate at that level. Overall, he has more skills than all the other rider on the field at the same age right now in the U.S. He can be the next be thing in the sport. But saying he IS the next big thing and can be compared to legends is banana right now.
@ethanrobinson9638
@ethanrobinson9638 3 жыл бұрын
The classes are way more stacked we see it happen more and more every year ask Blair or any of the guys in the room. I’m with Daniel, Jett is an amazing rider and I would consider him a generational talent.
@alwaysthewtite1
@alwaysthewtite1 Жыл бұрын
Is 4 championships enough for you Steve?
@louisfarone
@louisfarone 9 ай бұрын
5 now at 19 yr
@Jamo29
@Jamo29 3 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching moto 1 at Washougal from 2001. Defending champion and a generational rider TP goes down at the start and came back to 8th. My point is if you are coming from way back in the pack it makes life way harder. Jett seems to always be coming from way back in the pack and also dealing with other riders mistakes which is costing him big time. But he is always moving forward, even with a busted bike after a solid crash he moves forward. I agree with DB, he is special.
@125kingo125
@125kingo125 3 жыл бұрын
Go Daniel Blair. Matthes and Thomas surely need to realise how hard it is to make the difference when all these guys are bred and train to win. Its a different time to when Stew and 199 were debuting. Jett is amazing
@strackmx3188
@strackmx3188 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! Matthes and JT sounding dumb af. All these kids are training together and running pretty much the same programs it’s way harder to do what stew and RC did nowadays
@bloomerb4162
@bloomerb4162 3 жыл бұрын
Their talent was on another level despite if everyone wasn't training the same.
@seaeff6428
@seaeff6428 2 жыл бұрын
@@bloomerb4162 Not true at all, stew a little more than RC, but there were many guys that put down the same lap times as RC just couldn’t do it for 30+2.
@bloomerb4162
@bloomerb4162 2 жыл бұрын
@@seaeff6428 you know that's kinda the same thing a local pro says, I can run sx lap times close to the average but they can't complete one race.
@seaeff6428
@seaeff6428 2 жыл бұрын
@@bloomerb4162 It’s true though with Ricky his fitness is what put leaps and bounds above everyone not his raw talent.
@stuart662
@stuart662 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with DB, I got you💯
@benlangford4403
@benlangford4403 3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to compare Jett to riders of the past. Currently, there are sooo many riders who contend for the top 5 in the 250 class at the moment. Jett is a stand alone talent for his current generation and has done more for the sport than any of his peers.
@Motohead_Matt
@Motohead_Matt 3 жыл бұрын
I would put Jett up there as nearly there as one. I think his mental maturity for being this young is pretty unique and he’s racing against other pros that are basically men in their early 20’s that are also on similar training and fitness levels. I think it’s a bit hard to compare today’s 250 group to yesteryears 125 group because RC, and Stew really set the bar for next level training and fitness. Whereas today the whole field is on some sort of serious fitness program. I still think that RC, Stew, RV, etc while they were Generational talents, they are the All time Talents group as well which kinda puts them outside of just a normal generational talent conversation, these legends are all time category. They redefined the sport in many so ways which young riders like Jett now benefit from because of the the All Times impacts on the sport. RC with the serious training and his riding style, Stew with his Bubba Scrub, and whoop speed ( only 2 riders to ever go perfect 24-0 moto wins in any outdoor season ), RV was kinda the next era after Stew with redefining training and having massive success in indoor and outdoor. Then you have Jeremy with redefining how to ride supercross. Those were all time steps in the sport and influences that carried on. I think where Blair is getting at is that Jett compared to the field of 250 riders to come into the class in the last 5-10 years he’s up there as one of the most impressive under 18 yr old riders to look so experienced with his riding style and that is putting him up there as the stand out of his peer group ( a rider generation ). All rider generations have had their start stand outs, so just consider it as Jett is up there in the top young successes to his the sport and seems to be on the right track to become one of those generational talent standouts. And I think that is what Blair is getting at more is that comparatively it seems that Jett is one of those Phenoms that is figuring it out as good as his peers and can go toe to toe with veteran 250 riders / past champions at such an early start. So the “talent” level more so than the “all time record books” results side of things. In the end I don’t see another MC, RC, Stew, RV or even Dungey coming around anytime soon. Kinda seems that the game gets collectively raised as years go on and new riders build upon and are able to train what these all times paved before them which sort of makes things more competitive early on. Regardless Jett is super entertaining to watch ride and if he can pull off this outdoor title and get an indoor title next year and then backup an outdoor title in 22. I would say that definitely puts him up there for contention.
@garrett3234
@garrett3234 3 жыл бұрын
couldnt been said better stew Rc Mcgrath changed the sport forever
@Motohead_Matt
@Motohead_Matt 3 жыл бұрын
@@2011buddylee true. I guess Johnny O was before RC’s time. However compared to the rest of the field. RC and Stew did take it to more in the direction of what we saw in more modern riders regiments with like the whole Baker’s factory type training. I guess the point I was making was that not the rest of the field at the time in either class was going to the training level of those guys.
@maxbartertown
@maxbartertown 2 жыл бұрын
Daniel is on point. As of now, its not about wins or titles as measurement... Just watch the kid "Ride" . Jett has steadily ridden in a manner that makes it look like its easy. Yes, other riders have had the speed to match or gained earlier wins but, none this early looked so in control of their machine & their body like Jett. I think this is the first kid raised entirely within the current evolution of training & science programs that also has the natural raw talent to match. To add... I'm sure learning along the way from Hunter's mistakes has played a huge part to his understanding.
@tannerhall3344
@tannerhall3344 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to DB that humans mature at different ages especially young men.
@traviswoyen2243
@traviswoyen2243 3 жыл бұрын
If you're comparing eras, you're literally comparing talents across generations.
@johntomasik1555
@johntomasik1555 2 жыл бұрын
Putting the cart a bit before the horse, but, eh, whatever. No doubt Jett's one of the fastest and he obviously can win a title. We'll have to see where it goes from here.
@Blayde690
@Blayde690 3 жыл бұрын
I think one thing that's missing in this conversation is Jett didn't grow up racing in the US, he grew up racing in Australia and then Europe for a few years, JS, RC, RV and all those guys probably raced these tracks multiple times while growing up and should be better at all these tracks and have better results. As for supercross I don't even think it was on Jetts radar until he went to the US and he has picked it up fast and his progress has been amazing. I think a comparison with KR makes more sence as a foreigner going to race in the US his numbers probably stack up pretty good.
@LiverpoolFC658
@LiverpoolFC658 3 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% with Daniel , Jett is a special talent and has been ever since he first threw leg over a dirt bike. Floats like a butterfly & stings like a Bee!! BTW there was no Supercross to speak of in Australia when they were growing up and none in Europe so Daniels point on the Supercross thing is bang On! Jett practically had no Supercross experience when they arrived in the USA . I watched him many many times at tracks in Australia when he was a junior , I've never seen a smoother rider that can go that fast! go and ask the Europeans what they think of Jett Lawerence , In Europe he was beating pro's when he was 14 years old !! Another point Jett has not raced a lot of these tracks , the top guys in the 250 class he is racing now have thousands of laps around most of the AMA tracks. The weak field comment is hilarious !!
@kellaway-1578
@kellaway-1578 3 жыл бұрын
How old was villopoto when he came into the 250s? Rv dominated so I feel like that's a good bunch mark
@seaeff6428
@seaeff6428 3 жыл бұрын
It’s way different now though. Jeremy Martin has won 2 titles and is still in the class. 450 guys are riding to an older age therefore locking up space for 250 guys to move up. Jett is the youngest guy in the class right now and he’s battling guys 6-10 years older than him. RV wasn’t racing nearly as many vets. Not saying that makes Jett better at all, just saying if the field didn’t have several vets it would be way closer.
@kaneCarter_
@kaneCarter_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@seaeff6428 Yet he waxed Des nations on a 250 and you want to talk about racing vets. Just stop lol. It's insane to put jett on that Pedestal considering he hasn't even won a single championship here let alone 5+. Of course he's a Great rider but comparing him to the greats of the sport is far-out. Very far out...
@seaeff6428
@seaeff6428 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaneCarter_ one race compared to most of his 250 career. None of what I said was supposed to be a knock on villopoto just the fact that field is more stacked during the regular season, it’s different. Btw, RV is one of favorite riders of all time, at no point do I think Jett is somehow superior. At all.
@fuelmx6022
@fuelmx6022 3 жыл бұрын
Right Now, this era…. Yes, Jetson is the Generation of Talent
@MrMollymoto
@MrMollymoto 2 жыл бұрын
This has aged well so far for jett hahahha
@spinkMS
@spinkMS 3 жыл бұрын
And I dunno how u man say he looks “great” on the bike.. he’s literally got the best style in motocross rn no doubt, only one that comes close is sexton
@SoleAddictions
@SoleAddictions 3 жыл бұрын
I think Ken Roczen has the best style hands down. Jett after him , then sexton , then hunter Lawrence
@dirtbikewesley5815
@dirtbikewesley5815 3 жыл бұрын
Barcia got the best style
@SoleAddictions
@SoleAddictions 3 жыл бұрын
@@dirtbikewesley5815 I love barcia style . It’s very good . It just isn’t always noticeable . Sometimes he just doesn’t have it . But when he does, like last weekend , it looks amazing . I still Thought Kenny’s style was better last weekend, but I Thought barcia was pretty much just as good . He’s gnarly how much he drops the front end while in the air approaching landings . Reminds me of josh Hansen . It’s crazy , but it’s amazing looking and I love it .
@seaeff6428
@seaeff6428 3 жыл бұрын
Jason Anderson is up there too.
@Ballba365
@Ballba365 9 ай бұрын
Still too early to call this JT?
@reddawn1487
@reddawn1487 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like JT is arguing if Jett is Gna be a legend where Daniel is talking generational as in each group of riders gets marked by a rider in an age group , villapoto was generational , tomac, barcia were generational . Marks the point of the new blood and group , stew , Ricky , McGrath , they were generational and legends . Def generational and marking the separation from old guard and new group .
@matthewdrewery7303
@matthewdrewery7303 2 ай бұрын
This video aged well 😅
@codygoodwin1097
@codygoodwin1097 3 жыл бұрын
RESULTS, aren’t always a direct reflection of a generational TALENT; if they were, Stewart would be the winningest rider of all time in every discipline. Jetts ability to “stack up” results or stats wise, against James, per their age has nothing to do with Jetts level of TALENT. If his race craft, execution, championship management etc. all need to mature in order for him to be as GOOD as these other greats RESULTS wise, then okay. But purely speaking in terms of generational TALENT, yes, without question Jett Lawrence is one of, if not the most naturally talented riders we’ve seen since James and natural ability wise, you can watch him on the motorcycle one time and see that with your own eyes.
@bloomerb4162
@bloomerb4162 3 жыл бұрын
The power doesn't carry weight bc the older bikes didn't have as good of suspension, so I think it equals out.
@randallbass8937
@randallbass8937 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this 9 months later Blair wins the argument
@genesis2187
@genesis2187 3 жыл бұрын
No one can match RVs 250 domination.
@andy347495
@andy347495 3 жыл бұрын
Ummm really? Do you not know who James stewart is?
@genesis2187
@genesis2187 3 жыл бұрын
@@andy347495 key part of my statement being, 250s.
@sexatica
@sexatica 2 жыл бұрын
We don't know yet until he is the 450's
@Claystation3636
@Claystation3636 Жыл бұрын
This aged well for Daniel
@invisiblespeedrc
@invisiblespeedrc 3 жыл бұрын
I think Thomas and Matthes don't understand what is being discussed. What's the point of comparing to Stewart? You are supposed to compare him to his generation. If someone is head and shoulders above his generation, and he is on the level of the greatest in the sport, he is a generational talent. Comparing him to Roczen, yes, he also was a generational talent. Motocross generations arent the same as in normal life.
@craigf7188
@craigf7188 3 жыл бұрын
On some tracks the 250f is near as fast as the 450f that was never the case with 2t when times were 5 sec + apart , 125 riders were mainly against juniors with only a couple of top guys and the rest part timers. Just being compared to Stu,RV & KR says enough as all are legends of the sport.
@calgeo11
@calgeo11 3 жыл бұрын
Blair is entitled to his opinion for whatever reason, good on him for sticking to his guns. It does however indicate that his cohorts hold his opinion in high regard, if they didn’t there would be no discussion. Regardless of Blair’s opinion, there’s no denying that Jett has been great for the sport. I hope this a not scenario where Jett will be beaten down because he hasn’t performed how people want or expect him to, because I can’t even begin to fathom what it would take to win a race at that level let alone a championship. Leave the kid be, and let the chips fall where they may
@leonardwashington710
@leonardwashington710 3 жыл бұрын
Pastrana was a generational talent
@dirtroads.sandycoves
@dirtroads.sandycoves 3 жыл бұрын
Don't stress it blair !! I understand exactly what your tying to say.. just remember the two people your trying to debate this with also said teams don't give and take works parts for certain riders... long story short they are flops and can never be wrong or admit it
@joelaliberte8006
@joelaliberte8006 3 жыл бұрын
Believe in the HYPE!
@darthwaya608
@darthwaya608 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure AC won his first few supercross racers ever at that age before getting injured. Am I missing how they missed him in this conversation?
@bobbyrodrigue1985
@bobbyrodrigue1985 3 жыл бұрын
Pastrana did it at 17 right?
@Jamo29
@Jamo29 3 жыл бұрын
16
@kurtisthiele
@kurtisthiele 3 жыл бұрын
Why is Villopoto not mentioned..?
@josefhansen7658
@josefhansen7658 3 жыл бұрын
He was tho
@LiverpoolFC658
@LiverpoolFC658 3 жыл бұрын
@@josefhansen7658 Villopoto was mentioned constantly - obviously you didnt watch the video.
@josefhansen7658
@josefhansen7658 3 жыл бұрын
@@LiverpoolFC658 I’m not the one that said he wasn’t mentioned
@reddawn1487
@reddawn1487 2 жыл бұрын
Ricky and stew are legends and game changers , that’s not generational y’all arguing different points . Pastrana is a household name , more famous than any mx rider ever ,
@dougdickason
@dougdickason 2 жыл бұрын
The reason Jett doesn't compare well to "Stew" at this point in Jetts career, is because Stew was ahead of his time and had no serious competition, whereas Jett has a lot of serious competition. RC had more competition than Stew as well, with KDub for one. Dungey was still technically 19 when he won outdoor title, and 20 when he won the 450 sx title.
@midwestoutdoors9395
@midwestoutdoors9395 6 ай бұрын
Damn jt that didn't age well this round clearly went to dan
@bryntholt
@bryntholt 3 жыл бұрын
You literally comparing way different things. Blair is right in this fact. Look at RC, Stew, Villo, they were way ahead of their times when it came to a set program and being that more dedicated then everyone else. EVERY rider has an absolutely insane program around them now. Look at the AM groups now days, the intermediate and pros would run the same map times as the guys in the late 90’s and early 2000’s. Blair comparing Jett being on a factory 250 being this smooth and fast already is a very valid statement. It’s heavier and probably faster then any 125 or 250 2 stroke on the late 90’s and early 2’s. Even the early four strokes that villo raved have nothing on the current bikes. Jett is on track to be at that level. And generational talent is different then all time great talent. For Jetta generation he is the best in the world probably.
@bryntholt
@bryntholt 3 жыл бұрын
Then not even mention look at deegan, he’s like 15 and still racing super minis. Most kids don’t even hit 250’s tell 16 or 17. Jett is still young minded and has a lot of developing to do mentally. Shit look at your self from 17 to 19-21 and you would have changed drastically in your thought processes. Age matters in this topic
@sunrealclothing
@sunrealclothing 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Daniel... texting sucks for accurate convo... but it's all opinion just yet... but so far... he's not RC4 or JS7 or RV2 or JM2 or ??? let's just see what happens. Jett is an amazing talent... so are a few other guys. Let's see how Jett does the rest of this series... cause there's a chance that JC32 and HL41 might snag the title... and others can win... and as we've seen in the 250's, there's no one safe from the variable crashes that take out 6 guys at once...
@walttgrace
@walttgrace 3 жыл бұрын
Will be interesting to see Matthes and JT eat their words. I have a feeling that they will have to.
@rad9693
@rad9693 3 жыл бұрын
Blair is way over matched going head to head with JT. JETT rides with poetry and is a good rider, BUT he hasn’t won any championship.
@danearmstrong5822
@danearmstrong5822 3 жыл бұрын
this should be called Daniel vs the haters
@knolysjohnson7244
@knolysjohnson7244 3 жыл бұрын
Jet Lawrence is 2 times as talented as Jason Lawrence, 2/3 as talented as Ricky Carmichael, and 6-9 times as talented as Ronnie Mac. Simple math come on guys!
@morijin691
@morijin691 3 жыл бұрын
🤧🤣😂 the dumbest comment I've ever read tell that to ken roczen, Marvin and herlings
@knolysjohnson7244
@knolysjohnson7244 3 жыл бұрын
@@morijin691 I was just joking :p I thought the debate they were having was funny.
@morijin691
@morijin691 3 жыл бұрын
@@knolysjohnson7244 well Jett Lawrence is talented no doubt about that but the era of best 250 riders are gone think about it Eli tomac,ken roczen, Marvin,Dean wilson, Anderson,porcel,Rattray,bagget does guys are all champion and they see each other in one series
@PIERSBARONtv
@PIERSBARONtv 3 жыл бұрын
Jett Lawrence is like a young Valentino Rossi, a lot of talent and extremely relaxed off the track.
@troyhodulik5542
@troyhodulik5542 3 жыл бұрын
Jett and Stewart are NOT of the same generation. Done.
@troyhodulik5542
@troyhodulik5542 3 жыл бұрын
I take that statement back. I thought James was 40 yrs old. I checked. He is 35. Technically the same generation but very close to not being.
@johnridesadv2512
@johnridesadv2512 3 жыл бұрын
JT is a generational arguer. Just ask Matthes.
@travistaylor8122
@travistaylor8122 3 жыл бұрын
The damn renthal reaction pod aint working
@PulpMX
@PulpMX 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry about that, it should be fixed now.
@sunrealclothing
@sunrealclothing 3 жыл бұрын
lol you rule with JT... ahhh Daniel can't get a break sometimes... Keep chin up Daniel bro, you do a great job informing us bench racers!
@westtigers220986
@westtigers220986 3 жыл бұрын
more horsepower is harder to man handle. i think these oldschool guys are jealous of jett atm. i would say stew was faster for sure but was loose as. bring back stew!
@JR-pt7lg
@JR-pt7lg 3 жыл бұрын
Conversation was painful. Only listened to the first few minutes.
@seaeff6428
@seaeff6428 11 ай бұрын
How about now?
@morijin691
@morijin691 3 жыл бұрын
Jett Reynolds is coming 🤧🤣😂
@LiverpoolFC658
@LiverpoolFC658 3 жыл бұрын
didnt Levi Kitchen smoke him recently ?
@morijin691
@morijin691 3 жыл бұрын
@@LiverpoolFC658 let say yes wait till Jett Reynolds is getting comfortable in 250 you will see the his speed plush he is 16 years old while Levi is 20
@morijin691
@morijin691 3 жыл бұрын
@@LiverpoolFC658 watch Loretta Lynn in Tuesday they are in a class
@LiverpoolFC658
@LiverpoolFC658 3 жыл бұрын
@@morijin691 Yep Smoked Him
@morijin691
@morijin691 3 жыл бұрын
@@LiverpoolFC658 😂🤧 Jett Reynolds is just having fun seem Levi kitchen afraid to race against big boys he already 21
@mak62183
@mak62183 3 жыл бұрын
Jett’s a talent but not a generational talent PERIOD
@seaeff6428
@seaeff6428 11 ай бұрын
How about now?
@Ktulu-sd5ev
@Ktulu-sd5ev 3 жыл бұрын
I hope jett just wins the championship only to shut up all you haters ... the kid rips plain and simple
@craigf7188
@craigf7188 3 жыл бұрын
Jett is doing far more for the popularity of MX than any of the others mentioned
@dcsktr52
@dcsktr52 3 жыл бұрын
More than JS7?
@cropolo2573
@cropolo2573 3 жыл бұрын
Why do people seem to forget that Jett had to move to a different continent twice before even turning pro?
@morijin691
@morijin691 3 жыл бұрын
Nah he is not the era of the the best 250 riders are gone now is just bunch of slow guy and soft😂🤣🤧think about it ken,Eli, herlings,Marvin,bagger, Rattray,porcel,Wilson, barcia, Anderson they are all champions in 250 then they see each other in one series does are the best 250 riders
@HarborEdwin
@HarborEdwin 3 жыл бұрын
The big difference is when Jett doesn't get his starts, he can't quite make it back up to the podium every time. RC & JS did... That said, Jett will be one of the GOATs over time
@hoodedcobra1531
@hoodedcobra1531 3 жыл бұрын
Danger Boy will blow Jetts first two years out of the water tbh once he turns pro
@coreydamron4799
@coreydamron4799 3 жыл бұрын
Jett will be on a 450 when danger boy makes his run at the pros
@seaeff6428
@seaeff6428 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. Good one. 15 years old and he’s riding an 80. Jett was racing MXGPs at 14. Danger boys little cool KZbin channel sells everyone on this, but at his age right now jett was getting ready to turn pro and haiden is racing 12 year olds.
@andy347495
@andy347495 3 жыл бұрын
That little deegan punk is the next alessi.
@SoleAddictions
@SoleAddictions 3 жыл бұрын
@@seaeff6428 bro Haiden is going to go really far . He’s racing 85cc super Mini because it’s the last year he can , & he’s been racing the 125 along with the 85, because he’s going to get on the 250f next month . I can’t wait to see him on a 250. Watching him ride his dads 450…. He can man handle that bike which is insane
@seaeff6428
@seaeff6428 3 жыл бұрын
@@SoleAddictions he’s never even ridden a 250f set up for him. He’s sandbagging racing 7th grade kids. You know how many kids fall off after successful mini careers? You do know you can race 250 and supermini at the same time right? I’m pulling for him, but let’s be real Daxton waxed him his whole career, he’s late to 250s, and we’re basing this strictly off his 80cc career and KZbin. We’ll see how he does in 30+2 x 2 format. Will he go pro and be a top 5 guy right off the bat? Maybe it’s possible, could he win? Sure, but I doubt a kid that’s never had to dig deep against 5 year vets that have been on a 250f is going to come in and wax people. He’s fast but honestly his riding is nothing that special.
@bewimotos
@bewimotos 3 жыл бұрын
jett is overrated
@seaeff6428
@seaeff6428 11 ай бұрын
Dude I know right? I don’t know why someone like Daniel who’s been around racing for so long would predict that shit. I mean cmon. They act like he will go undefeated on a 450 or someshit.
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