How Thailand Killed the Elite Visa, then Made it Great Again! - Bronze Privilege Card Review

[@andrei200287]

I wanted to buy a 20-year Elite visa before the price increased, but I was rejected because I previously had a student visa. I am very happy now because I have a 5-year DTV visa for only 10,000 THB.

[@binyam11]

Did they say why ? I am on student visa right now and was planning on using Elite visa

[@johnny_bravo9990]

Do you mind sharing the visa agent. Thanks

[@passportmarc]

This, I’ll say it again, I feel ripped off.

[@billyhawkins9273]

Was it difficult for you to do yourself? I want to get the DTV Visa next year 🙏

[@commanderbishop]

LOL. I’m happy with a retirement visa. Nothing simpler than that and it’s cheap.

[@YeahNom]

Exemption on foreign sourced income would make those hefty price tags worth it for most people in the end

[@JettGunther]

Totally agree!

[@kevinstrong7520]

preach brother

[@marius7331]

​@@JettGunther If this would be the case I would buy an elite Visa within seconds. So I ll wait for this option. Do you really think that there will be an update regargind this?

[@PloyandJayinThailand]

That is only a rumour to get people buy the Elite visa?

[@warrpedd]

$400 for the DTV was the best money I spent for Thailand.

[@stevewise75]

Exactly. Anyone paying 650k for that 5 year elite visa needs to have their head examined

[@chinobonito30]

Why on earth would someone pay for an elite when you can do a cooking course for 400 usd for 5 years

[@ceosuccess2112]

How? Where do you get this type of visa? Please be specific? Can you get this visa after you have been on an education visa for a year? Thanks for all your help​@@chinobonito30

[@wbniv]

Cooking classes and other such cultural exchange classes do not work if you're over 50 years old

[@billyhawkins9273]

Did you do the DTV Visa yourself or through an agent? I want to get this visa next year 🙏

[@philippserrin8268]

Only 50 seconds into this video and it already merits a Thumbs Up. Good job, as always.

[@JettGunther]

You rock!

[@FrozenSkyy]

Loved the relaxed tone of the video.. With you throwing a few things around too 😂

[@JettGunther]

😁

[@dmm1863]

You always maintain a very professional countenance in all your videos...one might say a little stiff. It is SO nice to see you let loose, have a little fun, tell it like it is and let your personality come out. I loved it!

[@markmielke5283]

Another stellar video Jett. Thanks for all you do.

[@JettGunther]

My pleasure!

[@m.s.7711]

Basically approach into the right direction. However the changed Tax rules and the cheap five years DTV still weights heavy.😔😔😔

[@JettGunther]

Yes. They are pushing hard to add perks like tax exemption and work permit in 2025. Let's really hope so.

[@StarchildUni]

love the video Jett. Thanks for keeping the bloopers in and not fluffing up anything regardless of the affiliate/agent link.

[@JettGunther]

My pleasure!

[@cjack202003]

Cheaper, but more expensive. I remember when it was 500K. So, it's more expensive than the past, but cheaper than the current line-up. Hence...cheaper, but more expensive.

[@JettGunther]

There also was a time when they offered a lifetime Elite Visa for 1 million baht. Now those were the days! 😄

[@nickbali1534]

​@@JettGunther Hi Jett, I'm approaching 76 years of age- would you please confirm that in your opinion the Elite visa is the only real option for someone with no health insurance? Looking forward to hearing from you, Kind regards, Nick

[@consulthai]

I know you're promoting real estate too, so these proposed tax rules on funds remitted into Thailand would have huge ramifications for those who want a long term visa as they're prospective buyers of real estate . Let alone spending a lot more than short term tourists . I think real estate developers, agents etc should form a lobby group or an advisory group as this visa has more impact on the Thai economy than just tourism or tax revenue . It seems to me that there is little liasion between various departments within the Thai government .

[@JettGunther]

If only the Thai government listened more to the private sector...

[@ahpaint]

Add those who have already spent millions on real estate, no recognition of that investment in thailand.... Lost opportunity by successive Govs

[@TheGreatEscape9833]

They don’t care about you. They’d rather have millions of Indians and Russian visitors spending as few baht as possible.

[@p.c.h.6721]

As always, great information, thanks! I wish you'd talk about other visas available.

[@mst6429]

There's definitely a market for this visa but it's catered to the top 10% wealthy who can afford it. The sentiments on ground of retirees already here for some years are looking else where. The real estate in thailand is struggling to pickup(Bkk post) due to the visa policies and foreigners are choosing to rent instead of buying cause of the rules. You made a valid point on gradual increments but greed seemed to be apparent. In the meantime the other SEA countries like are capitalizing on it. Let's hope things work out in Thailand's favor.

[@stevedrinkschang365]

I'll never buy anything here I can't own 100%... rent is too cheap and I can leave if need be 😂

[@rassabossa4554]

Yeah a $18,000 USD fee to move to a country is ridiculous. There are lots of countries better than Thailand. I really like Thailand but if governments make it hard to move there, look elsewhere.

[@patnewman1]

As always, thank you for a very concise video regarding the new “Bronze” package. I was fortunate to have gotten into the Elite visa system in 2022 and was quite happy with my choice. With that said, because of the changes made to the Elite visa and being rebranded into the “Privilege “ packages, at the end of my Elite visa in 2027 I will see what my options are at that time and may decide to move on. 🙏

[@calky360]

If you are under the old pricing, you might still have the option to upgrade your 5 year visa to the 20 year visa for the 400k baht difference. Not 100% sure but I think I recall something about this, worth looking into it.

[@JettGunther]

Thank you for sharing! 🙏

[@DanniChan_Worldwide]

Another concise, informative, video, Jett! I’m sending it to my friends!

[@JettGunther]

Much appreciated Danni!

[@Dividend-Shark90]

Interested in applying for the bronze. Are you able to confirm that the promotion ending in June means that I must obtain the visa before June, or are you able to start an application in June right before the end of the promotion date and still be eligible for the visa?

[@JettGunther]

This is beyond me to answer. You can talk to my official rep here tally.so/r/w8zNvl

[@toddsellars4694]

Thank you for the updates Gunther! Keep up the good work!

[@stevenhuber829]

Top notch video Jett 👍, thanks.

[@JettGunther]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@BironClark]

Great video! Love the info (and personality😂)

[@JettGunther]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@alexhahi3077]

Great video, that comment on Chaengwattana 😂😂😂😂

[@Bakilovetheworld]

5:55 😂 realized that you throw your love like that. I’m on other chase card but I’m try that one. 🎉

[@pjjunior6314]

Excellent content 👍

[@jiminhart]

I'm not buying a Privilege Card anytime soon, but I really enjoyed this presentation. The hand book flying over your shoulder made my day.

[@JettGunther]

Trust me, it was very awesome to do ;)

[@BarakTheWonderer]

$18,000 for basically a 5 year visa. In what universe is this even rational? C'mon, Jett. I've considered using your company in the past, but if you will just shill for anything for a few bucks, it shows that in other dealings you will not have MY best interests in mind - just $$$. Very disappointed. People love Thailand, and want to organize their future, living there. Yet, this immigration business, changing constantly, creating barrier after barrier (Taxes, Insurance, Constant reporting etc.) is so controlling, chaotic and unstable, it makes it impossible to invest in that future. Thai authorities mistakenly think that all of us spend our lives drunk sitting in pole bars/red light districts. Most of us are respectful, decent people adding a lot of $$$ to the Thai economy, living our lives there. You should try communicating that message to the immigration authorities.

[@JettGunther]

“$18,000 for basically a 5 year visa. In what universe is this even rational?” Go ask the people who got the Elite Visa prior to 2023 whether they are happy with it, and why they chose it over the myriad of other visas available in Thailand. “you will just shill for anything for a few bucks,” If only you knew the number of promotional offers I regularly turn down. As for the Elite Visa, I’ve always given it my fair criticisms and outlined who may NOT be suitable for it. Find me another subagent who is more openly critical of this visa than I was in the section 03:00 “Then it kinda sucked” “this immigration business, changing constant, reating barrier after barrier is so chaotic and unstable, it makes it impossible to invest in that future.” The Elite Visa is EXACTLY the thing that bypasses these immigration headaches you mentioned. THAT’s one of the main reasons why people get it. “You should try communicating that message to the immigration authorities.” Despite my perceived influence, I've never been invited once to by immigration to provide any feedback. Best I can do is troll online with videos like this one. Anyway, good luck and good bye.

[@exalhoa]

@@JettGunther Great reply. I'm one of those happy Elite buyers. Got mine in the spring of 2022 (using your link) after spending an entire afternoon at the Chiang Mai immigration office to get a 30 day extension. I decided that was the first and last time I would ever visit an immigration office. And I'm well into retirement visa age. It was money well spent.

[@JettGunther]

Thank you for sharing your story 🙏 Glad to hear things turned out well for you.

[@markmielke5283]

Who hurt you?

[@freyafoxmusic]

You are right. Japan is cheaper at that rate as it’s about $32,000 but you get to keep the money yourself (business manger)

[@5thPlatoon]

Great video as always, Jett! Do you know if the mooted foreign income exemption would be applied to future applicants only or to existing holders also?

[@chinesecrested9528]

Great information, and thank you. I was going to get the elite visa, BUT after the price change, i opted out. The bronze visa now sounds pretty much like a marriage visa....

[@PloyandJayinThailand]

Marriage visa = 400k baht is your money that you can use. Elite = 650k is a fee you don’t see anymore.

[@Goodmorningmrnathan]

They’re not going to be competitive with the LTR visa unless they can get an exemption on foreign sourced income.

[@kageyamareijikun]

Very informative. Thanks for talking about the new bronze type.

[@JettGunther]

My pleasure!

[@N34R4T0M4T]

If I have to pay 5.000.000 Baht I am not calling anyone every 90 days forget it wtf lol. Thailand also have to realise they have to compete with so many other great countries, when it comes to such a price it opens most other doors in the world from investment visas...... Also they need to interview people and understand what people of priviledge ACTUALLY want lol, and NOT change things again and again it is insulting...

[@JettGunther]

Well said! Totally agree.

[@PloyandJayinThailand]

You can make a 90-day report online and it takes less than three minutes. Hard task? 😂

[@N34R4T0M4T]

@@JettGunther Also thank you for speaking up in general, I think it is upon us as grownups to do so and be in constructive talks with the right auth, to push for the changes we actually wish to see, so thank you for your work!

[@freyafoxmusic]

For that price you can get guaranteed Japanese citizenship in one year with their new program depending on your age

[@JettGunther]

If only they listened.

[@spo-tube]

I thought that the 90 day reporting can be done online. Then the reporting service would not be needed. Has this been discontinued?

[@DonThompson1964]

Yes but the first time each year you have to physically go to immigration then after that you can check in online. But I just drop passport off at the designate visa service center in Pattaya and pick it back up later. They don’t charge a fee if you drop it off.

[@Bribriblibliblu]

I have the Elite Visa. If I had to get it now, I wouldn't. I would get the DTV hands down. Almost the same as the 5-years Elite visa at a fraction of the cost. 650k (previously 900k) VS 10k. You get almost the same deal for 1.5% of the price of the Elite visa. It does not make sense to get it nowadays unless they granted a tax exemption as for the LTR, or other perks that are worth the money. They cannot justify the price anymore.

[@JettGunther]

Serious question because I truly don't know: How long can you legally and feasibly stay in Thailand with the DTV?

[@Bribriblibliblu]

​@@JettGunther 5 years. Once you enter Thailand with a DTV you get a 180-days stamp. You can extend it for another 180 days at immigration so you can stay up to 360 days in Thailand without leaving the country. Then you can do a border run, enter again Thailand, get another 180-days stamp, extend it for another 180 days, and repeat the process for up to 5 years of validity. In a nutshell: every time you enter Thailand you get a 180-days stamp + an 180-days extension if you want to extend, during 5 years. A few of my friends already got it and it is what they told me. Also another youtuber (can't remember the name now) interviewed someone at immigration and that is what he said . I will try to find the video and let you know since he clarifies everything regarding the DTV:

[@JettGunther]

If what you said is true, then they've upended any reason to get any other visa at all. From discussions I've had with "people in the know," they said the DTV has gone overboard in its leniency, being too much of a free-for-all and bringing in "all sorts of folks," and so there's talks of re-examining it to make it more strict. That's all I know. Let's see.

[@Bribriblibliblu]

@@JettGunther Exactly. Agree 100%. Please, check out the video I told you about. There you'll find clear answers. As for making it more strict, well, I knew that would happen since the DTV was available. Easy to get, cheap, and prone to abuse. As it happened in the past with the volunteer visa, then the ED visa, and now it'll happen with this one. I told my friends, if you want to get it, do it now before the make it more strict.

[@stevewise75]

Exactly. The elite makes zero sense. Not sure why Gunther is choosing now to shilling this when DTV is the clear choice. Sure DTV might have some chance of policy changes but at 650k I’d lose more sleep knowing I got ripped off over whether my DTV visa will be valid

[@Nordic_Sky]

Jett, where did you get your coat made?

[@jiminhart]

I was also thinking it's nice.

[@JettGunther]

Ring Jacket

[@Nordic_Sky]

@@JettGunther Looks great. Next time I'm by Phaya Thai I'll take a look. I've always had my clothes made by Narin on Sukhumvit, which is about the same price. Your jacket looks custom made. I'm surprised to see it is off-the-rack. It fits you well.

[@JettGunther]

Thank you! I'm fortunate to have a build that can wear most off-the-rack. If I'm not mistaken, Narin does French cut suits? Ring Jacket is mainly Neapolitan style which may be something different for you to try. They also have very interesting fabrics.

[@Nordic_Sky]

@@JettGunther Yep, definitely a plus to have a more-or-less standard size (me too). There is so much interesting fashion coming out of Japan. As you mention, Narin started in Paris and has a more structured look. His workmanship is excellent, for both suits and shirts, well worth the 4-5 week wait. Does Decorum have a tailor on hand to make minor adjustments?

[@teckin139]

I bought my 20 year before the price increase. I still don't live in Thailand yet but it was worth losing 1-2 years off the time to get the lower price. I also wish there was an exemption on foreign sourced income. I pay taxes in my own country that has a tax treaty with Thailand so shouldn't be an issue but I wish I didn't have to think about it at all.

[@calky360]

There are ways around the new tax. Any savings you had pre the new rules can be remitted tax free (just keep them separate from new income). Further, you can remit unlimited funds into Thailand in a year in which you are not a tax resident in Thailand (i.e. a year in which you spend no more than 6 months in Thailand) and this money won't be subject to the tax.

[@TheGreatEscape9833]

To have bought the visa and still haven’t made the move is so dumb. It was about $1500/yr, been two years, you basically tossed $3,000 in the toilet.

[@alextruong1136]

What loop holes are they talking about when DTV holders extend their stay? They only get to do that once per 180 days and then have to leave? Basically they pay an extra fee - is that a loophole?

[@princephilipog1336]

Yo Jet, great video man haha! How useful is the bronze card as an option to cash out in crypto? could people do that instead of dubai fro example?

[@freyafoxmusic]

Stick to Dubai . No kyc

[@roamanxo5882]

I wanted to buy the old 20 year elite visa for 1 million, but I was rejected due to a prior student visa. Now I'm here on a 'legit' DTV as a remote worker. The bronze version is still too expensive, because it's not extentable.

[@jayman4795]

Great video, thanks. I got the 5-year Elite before all the crazy changes so can’t complain. But I certainly wouldn’t have gotten it after they raised the price and made it overly confusing. How do these things happen? Don’t they give these changes any thought before announcing them? Seems bizarre they’d self sabotage what was a very popular visa at least for “wealthy” people.

[@JettGunther]

"Don’t they give these changes any thought before announcing them?" It would be too smart for them to do 😂 "Seems bizarre they’d self sabotage what was a very popular visa at least for “wealthy” people." If only the brightest minds work for the government 😛

[@Belge1990]

hello mr jeff. how can I contact you regarding the elite visa please

[@JettGunther]

elitevisa.jettgunther.com

[@TheH00kie]

A small improvement but not being able to legally own a freehold villa is the thing that will prevent my move, why not allow it for a property over a certain value?

[@nuovovideo]

Hi , can it be renovated when expired? And what about tax income? will it be removed?

[@nickjacques6087]

Thank you Jett. You explain things very simply and understandably. Appreciate you. Before I make a commitment to Thailand I would need to have a long term visa like the 20 year elite. Otherwise doing it year by year is how I will proceed if I relocate to Thailand. With the constantly changing visas and requirements and costs, it makes me want to choose a long term option that I know will last. Especially since I am at retirement age. I am getting too old to understand all the details and jump through the hoops. If Thailand would accept me, I would be a cash cow into the country, just living in a condo and spending my money I made in another country in Thailand. Retired people are no problem for Thailand really. We are a big monetary benefit.

[@JettGunther]

Thank you for sharing. Hope you you're qualify for a solid long term visa.

[@pauljacobs4302]

Do you get a discount for spouse on second household Pref BRONZE in same household?

[@thetravellingsocialworker]

Yes they have to do something around the Thai Elite Visa or it's dead compared to other options out there. The cost benefit analysis may not make it worth it's money unless they make adjustments to it. But it's good they have alot of Visa options out there to suit different lifestyles

[@vbrandi7928]

Seems like Malaysia did the same thing regrettably. Lots of lesson’s learned

[@freyafoxmusic]

$300 for DTV vs $20,000 for elite… the choice is obvious. You could pay $35,000 usd in Japan and actually get permanent residency (business manager visa) and or one of the strongest passports in the world

[@WealthyChronicle]

This Visa rollercoaster is wild. First, it's the best deal in town, then they hike prices and remove perks. Will the new bronze card save it, or is this just a desperate attempt? 🤔

[@JettGunther]

Let's see.

[@OffshoreBuccaneer]

I was going to get it and buy property but because of the ongoing changes and tax situation i decided to take my residence to the Bahamas instead and now will not bother with thailand for retirement. For me to much uncertainly plus no freehold property like in Bahamas and my permanent residency in Bahamas is for life and no need to ever go to immigration again plus bahamas more stable for investments. Plus tax except.

[@JettGunther]

What ongoing changes and tax situations are you referring to? Regarding visas, any change does not retroactively affect a person who was in before. Regarding tax, what tax law in place stipulates that you need to pay tax?

[@RP-co7rc]

I have the 5 year Elite visa and have loved it but the new elite visa I would not recommend.

[@tailwind12]

i am retired living in asia. smart, articulate person here, gunther. the guy knows what he is talking about. one thing few people realize is there is ALWAYS a technicality with any visa, short of diplomatic. it can be changed, revoked or canceled at ANY time the issuing nation wants. much of this can look good in nations and most do not change it hence that would cause revenue problems ect. but they can. any nation can. i did not understand where a person getting an elite visa and not wanting to show or prove medical insurance. so you are dropping $30,000 for a visa but do not OR cannot sped a few $1000 a year on a good international policy like Alianz or CIGNA (i prefer using non-asian, not thai insurance for medial). i have lived in south america, peru. since they do not have nearly as many expats as thailand the regulations do not change that much. but they do and they CAN. always be careful in the real estate investment. how is that $500,000 condominum doing IF they void or change the nations visa rules? rights?

[@JettGunther]

Thank you for your input. What I'll say to that is Thailand is one of the very few countries where its political situation has actually been stress-tested. Since 1932, the country has gone through 13 coup d'etats (not including unsuccessful coups), yet foreign property ownership rights have remained exactly the same. It's one of the few countries where we can actually draw from real history of what would happen, which is that nothing happens to foreigner's rights.

[@bobbybroward]

I got my DTV in a matter of days. For westerners applying in our home countries it seems to be a breeze.

[@SeftonHanley]

How much were you paid for this promo piece ??

[@JettGunther]

Zero. You think a promo deal would allow me to trash it the way I did here?

[@eric7639]

I have no idea why anyone would even bother with this visa anymore. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I was living in Thailand on a legal ED visa and applied for an elite through an agent back when they were 500k. Found out months later that they would no longer approve anyone with a previous ED visa. Agent said 8 out of 10 had been denied. Gave up, moved to the Philippines. ❤ If I ever decide to move back I’ll get a DTV. Less hassle and nearly free in comparison. It is kind of funny watching them “drop the price” now. 😂

[@brunskiyoski]

Absolutely pointless 😄 If you pay baht 10,000 for a DTV and then pay cash for any supposed perks you would get on the elite, this would still cost you a small fraction of the cost of the elite. No point to it whatsoever.

[@indiandaeng]

Elite Visas are very expensive and you pay more than visa runs which give you a bit of variety of destinations.

[@orionvassi]

The DTV sounds too good to be true. At the same time $26K isn't a lot of money nowadays for many people. I could see the EV still being popular because you don't have to do anything. For some rich folks paying a few thousand to avoid going to Cambodia on a border run is worth it.

[@zoltanl8056]

I hold a 20yrs Elite Visa. Currently, sadly, it is a regret. The offer changed with the new Elite visas first, then the landscape changed once more with the cheap DTV. One thing is sure, that Thailand frequently changes their visa and immigration offers. Maybe some point in future Elite visa will hold a good value again, for right now it is money wasted.

[@JettGunther]

Why do you regret it? Since any changes don’t retroactively affect you during your membership duration anyway.

[@zoltanl8056]

@@JettGunther do you think so? wrong! the 90 days report drop off free doesn't the case anymore. the advertised discounts, like members for lounge at airport, if buying for my fiance entry, have zero discount; a lot of the offers coming up more focused on the "new" memberships vs the "old" ones, and their offer to switch to the point system was a bad joke, for wanting like 70k a year on top of the million paid?! top this with the visa free entry extranded to 60 days, the DTV, the tax issues announced soon after purchased, i see no reason if i could go back to go the Elite visa way, really. again, this is an opinion, but least a first hand one, since i had actually forked out a million baht for the 'privilege' :)

[@JettGunther]

Thank you for sharing. These guys are more moronic than I thought. Let's see if they really will wake up and fix the program in 2025. Otherwise, it'll actually become a detriment to my brand to associate myself with them.

[@carnivorechronicles]

It was extremely sad to see Elite Visa did not catch that lady getting kick out of Thailand for not doing 90 day reports when she went back to UK for cancer treatment only to ultimately End from her illness. Pitiful on the part of elite visa if it’s too difficult to track their members properly.

[@JettGunther]

What do you think Thailand Elite should have done?

[@Lillybaby26]

8:21 90 day reporting is very interesting.

[@geraldhoppe9178]

I just read about the ltr- wealthy pensioners for 10 years, which might be a better solution, especially because foreign income won't be taxed

[@TheGreatEscape9833]

TE paying for this video? As a 5yr PE visa holder under the old system, I’ve lost all faith in the company. No chance I’ll be giving them more money and nobody else should either.

[@JettGunther]

Of course they didn’t pay. You think they’d allow me to criticize it if they did? Genuinely curious: why have you lost faith in them? Since any changes doesn’t affect you during your membership duration anyway. And what would they need to do to regain your faith and purchase?

[@keithss67]

Meh they change the requirements and benefits and obligations every two weeks. They are constantly changing the tax code. It’s a complete total mess!

[@JettGunther]

The requirements have always remained the same. In terms of benefits, any future changes are not retroactively applied to existing holders of the visa. For example, they used to offer a lifetime elite visa. And despite having canceled that, anyone who bought it still has it effective for life.

[@davidkolbig2279]

I don't want perks. They are all in Bangkok. Still not going to renew.

[@jimhayd7857]

Whose on second? What’s on first? This is a government run 3 card monte scheme

[@chrisgoody2shoes218]

It has been superseded by much better visas ie DTV and LTR. The LTR visa is easy to get if you can prove income requirements.

[@JettGunther]

Many don't want to disclose their financial information to the government, and many are not able to meet the LTR's health insurance requirement.

[@rayb9849]

Why not just get a retirement visa and the money in the bank will be yours...unless that has changed?

[@MikeFoscolos-ch7ms]

The Privilege visa needs an exemption on foreign sourced income to be competitive. It is merely a tourist visa, with no work permit attached, no social benefits, and no path to PR. Those that can afford it want the freedom to import foreign funds without a tax nightmare. Having to enter the Thai tax system, declare and be tax up to 35% on remittances, makes a long stay in Thailand unattractive and full of hassles. All the talk and uncertainty of worldwide tax means Thailand is becoming a no go zone for high net worth individuals seeking a long-stay. At the moment Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore and HK are the Asian countries high net worth can consider for a trouble free long stay, as there is no tax imposed on foreign income and no talk of worldwide income tax. We can declare and be taxed where we derive our income without needing to declare and be taxed a second time during our long stay. I think tax changes in Thailand are going to be the death of this visa not the cost of it.

[@JettGunther]

"Having to enter the Thai tax system, declare and be tax up to 35% on remittances" According to which tax law? I'm genuinely curious. What am I missing? Because as far as I know, no new policy has been passed, nor are there any substantial bills in parliament regarding this. All that's been officially done was the closing of the loophole where income brought in the following tax year wasn't taxed. But that was a closing of a loophole, not a proactively new tax policy.

[@solgoodman730]

Rich people get a 20 year visa but falang parents of Thai children got to get a new visa every year. Sounds fair

[@hobo1704]

Farang..

[@johng5950]

"Great again".....I don't know about that boss. Price would still have to be lower to consider this great, considering all the stuff that was taken out and the DTV competition, but just my opinion. 850 thb in Bangkok for someone to come pick up the passport and do the 90 day reporting for you? I hope nobody's doing that. I've been living in Pattaya for a couple years and doing the 90 day report online (which is free) and never had an issue (I always do 14 days in advance just in case). I take a pic of the approval email on my phone. If I did have an issue, there's visa agents here who will handle it for 100 thb. 5 min walk to the office to drop off the passport. To each their own though.

[@gaheez4214]

Can I apply from Afghanistan? 5555

[@PhuketGayHomestay]

10,000 or 600,000. It’s not even a question.

[@Troy-p4e]

Jett what is the best visa for 6 months semi retired couple

[@JettGunther]

Try the retirement visa if you don't want to get the Elite Visa.

[@Ulbre]

At the start you said 600K for 5 year and 1 million for 20 year.....1 million for 20 year perked my interest but you said nothing more about that and your website has no mention of a 20 year 1 million baht package , but only the rip off 5 million. I guess I'll just keep paying the 1900 baht yearly extension and do my 90 day reports online and save myself ฿4,962,000!!!!!!!!

[@DonThompson1964]

The 20-year, 1-million-baht option was part of the former Thai Elite system, which has since been replaced by the new Thai Privilege program. That visa is now 5 million baht.

[@paladin0]

They call it the Bronze Package but we will call it the Orichalcum Package.

[@zeebooboo578]

If it's about money then nothing is secure.

[@erikjanse3994]

Jeff, the 1 million Baht 20 year Elite visa (Superiority Extension Membership) never contained a free limousine service from and to the Airport. This was only included in the 2 million Baht 20 year Elite visa

[@calky360]

I can confirm this also.

[@neale3871]

Thailand and Malaysia keep chopping & changing their programmes, for tbe worse. Don't they know how unsettling this is for existing holders and potential visa applicants? The one thing we want is continuity. How else can you plan for the future, and pay for it. The obvious greed is staggering. Talk about killing the golden goose.

[@anoncapitalist7045]

This visa/elite should get the tax exemption too. Many people got this visa specifically for that reason

[@JettGunther]

I highly doubt the second thing you said. The Elive Visa never promised tax exemption in the past.

[@anoncapitalist7045]

@JettGunther I know quite a few. Correct, but the visa agents pushed the narratives. It was even on some of their slide decks. These are one of the bigger investment visa holders by way of volume, and the tax proposed changes will impact this sector.

[@JettGunther]

Jeez those agents are con men.

[@passportmarc]

We need to get rid of 90 reports and tax, or if not both at least work visa or automatic pink card or something

[@CaptainKremmen]

It's not just clunky for 2024. It would have been clunky for 2004! You really enjoyed throwing that stupidly large book, didn't you?!

[@LeahandBlair]

The answer... live in the Philippines and bounce. 😂

[@JOHNPoST-y4u]

Yes it is waaay too complicated. And also the new tax laws. Thailand is not worth it.

[@JettGunther]

Which tax law? I'm genuinely curious. What am I missing? Because as far as I know, no new policy has been passed, nor are there any substantial bills in parliament regarding this. All that's been officially done was the closing of the loophole where income brought in the following tax year wasn't taxed. But that was a closing of a loophole, not a proactively new tax policy.

[@fredliu5066]

Cdns dont need a visa

[@passportmarc]

False you can’t live here permanently… only so many border runs before they curb you, might take 2 years but still can happen

[@BudCowmen]

DTV FTW!

[@Troy-p4e]

We are not all millionaires,but a lot of people have money to live a comfortable retirement or semi retirement in Thailand ,and contribute to the Thai economy,a simple 3-6 or 12 mth semi retirement type visa ,with a rental agreement and Return Airfare in place ,most people come to enjoy the beaches ,weather ,food ,shopping ,golf etc and just want to rent a house or condo and enjoy Thailand for what it has to offer

[@JettGunther]

There are many long term visa options available depending on the person's situation and qualifications, such as the Elite Visa, LTR, retirement, marriage visa.

[@aaronsoken2796]

Too much UNCERTAINTY!

[@tonythaiger93]

DTV basically stabbed elite visa holders like me. Basically we paid 30x more than DTV. That is just bad PR. They need to cancel DTV.

[@PloyandJayinThailand]

You just had bad timing and were unlucky. DTV is here and it’s very popular so there is no reason to cancel it.

[@scott.hamilton]

So you want other people to suffer because you made what you now consider to be a bad choice…..? Bad karma coming your way. 👍

[@JettGunther]

I highly doubt the DTV will remain a free-for-all like it is right now. They’re already talking about curbing it next year.

[@passportmarc]

@@JettGuntherthey have no choice anytime there’s something like this thai/Russians resellers find the loophole, setup the fake schools rubber stamp the fake lessons and voilà, theres half a dozen ads on instagram with guaranteed DTV status… oh and at least elite runs a background check

[@JettGunther]

What a joke. The DTV is asking to be abused.

[@paula-yr7pp]

Elite Visa are just way over priced

[@jefferyjohnson5421]

Ridiculous.

[@vskbkkchina1]

This visa is good for rich peoples because they don’t need to do work ,but for normal peoples this visa is little expensive if they don’t work they can’t survive .but other things in Thailand is really good .come and enjoy.love from Bangkok ❤❤❤❤

[@jmason2070]

@ChocolateManInThailand