When a 'Relationship with God' Turns Unhealthy

[@wilberwhateley7569]

This is what’s called rebranding - “it’s not a religion, it’s a relationship” is the Christian equivalent of “it’s not a cookie, it’s fruit and cake.” The whole rebranding campaign was developed to compensate for the fact that we are living in a society that’s becoming increasingly secular as time goes by and religion becomes less and less relevant: they want to shed the negative imagery or religion that exists in the minds of many without changing their substance.

[@lemsip207]

I was told this nonsense by someone trying to convert. I didn't have a comeback to that, but I did avoid her for years.

[@DeJaVuCa]

It's called "mind control- manifestation"- cause & effect. Not dismissing our own intuition & choices or Consequences to a jebus named god.

[@tangerinetangerine4400]

Also they want to elevate themselves and their religion over all other religions claiming it's something else. It's dishonest and annoying.

[@chemtrooper1]

Did not Jesus curse the Fig Newton tree?

[@user-r8or-pko3dfg]

@@lemsip207 They have stolen and appropriated Stoic ideals and values of Zeno, Marcus Aurelius, John Locke . . . and Thomas Jefferson's Bible.

[@adamc1966]

If xtianity is not a religion then red is not a color ❤

[@jezebelvibes]

I'm still waiting for someone to explain how it *doesn't* fall under the definition of religion

[@edhall3719]

​@@jezebelvibesThere is a Fountain filled with blood drawn from Immanuels veins and sinners plunged beneath that flood lose all their guilty stains . There is a Fountain old hymn . the word of our God shall stand for ever . Isaiah 40 8 God is not the author of confusion . 1 Corinthians 14 33 . Jesus said Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God . John 3 5 . For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body whether we be Jews or Gentiles whether we be bond or free and have been all made to drink into one Spirit . 1 Corinthians 12 13 . Jesus said John indeed baptized with water but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost . Acts 11 16 on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost . Acts 10 45 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour . Titus 3 6 washed us from our sins in his own blood . Revelation 1 5 we have now received the atonement . Romans 5 11 it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul . Leviticus 17 11 For I know that my redeemer lives and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth. Job 19 25 Jesus said If any man thirst let him come unto me and drink. John 7 37. In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness . Zechariah 13 1 . Neither will I hide my face any more from them for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel saith the Lord God . Ezekiel 39 29 .

[@areuaware6842]

Anything can be a religion.

[@Stegster]

⁠@@jezebelvibes Ex fundie here :D At our church we were taught it was because “religion is made by man, Christianity is made by god” Is it a good excuse? Absolutely not, but that’s what was drilled into our heads as kids

[@DeJaVuCa]

Red is a color. Odin is god. And we are in 2024 CE (waken up )

[@deconry]

KRISTI....what you are saying is spot on. I an an 81 year old ex Christian and ex deacon. I have studied the Bible, attended seminary classes, and lead people to Christ. Today, the church and the professional clergy are losing significant numbers and educators like you, Jim Palner, Richard Dawkins and the Clergy Project are helping all of us rethink and reexamine what we have been taught....all in the mission of growing up and becoming better more realistic people. 😘

[@sundayoliver3147]

I really appreciate your willingness to take another look at something you were so invested in. Gives me a sense of possibility for the human race.

[@deconry]

@@sundayoliver3147 It did not come without cost. We all need to continue to question, learn, and evolve.....while practicing kindness and the golden rule. 🙂

[@racerx4152]

your deceived just like the sick woman in the video. a warped view of the bible.

[@kelseykjarsgaard5774]

​@@deconrywhat age did you deconvert? They will just say didn't have holy spirit

[@ATTACKofthe6STRINGS]

As a recent deconvert, they’re not wrong. Christianity is an unhealthy relationship with a god we would consider abusive if he were human.

[@nate666]

Jesus spoke of rest. When you get to heaven you probably won't even be around God or Jesus that much. You will probably just be resting in your own place enjoying life. 😂

[@user-r8or-pko3dfg]

@@nate666 No, you NEED to take initiative . . . *Matthew 9:2* "Jesus stepped into a boat, crossed over and came to his own town. Some men brought to him a paralyzed man, lying on a mat. When Jesus _saw_ their FAITH, he said to the man, 'Take heart, son; your sins are forgiven.'” *Mark 2:3-5* "Some men came, bringing a paralyzed man, carried by four of them. Since they could not get him to Jesus because of the crowd, they made an opening in the roof above Jesus by digging through it and then lowered the mat the man was lying on. When Jesus *saw* their FAITH, he said to the paralyzed man, “'Son, your sins are _forgiven.'”_

[@RaphaelTheAltarBoy]

@@nate666 No, actually he wants you to worship him for eternity.

[@BrianP-bh1vo]

That's because you don't know God.

[@kaylandry3142]

​@@BrianP-bh1vobible god is sadistic af. Growing up i always felt like god was my p*mp. Because girls were created to be slaves for men. As a little girl bible god literally gave me a stomach ache & made me cry.

[@jessewhite2879]

Christianity to me seems like the biggest case of Stockholm Syndrome i`ve ever encountered imo

[@areuaware6842]

All the filthy Abrahamic religions are the same.

[@recoverfromreligion]

I just made a video about Stockholm Syndrome and religion. Check it out.

[@user-r8or-pko3dfg]

Perhaps the 3rd, after _Submission_ and _Sanatanism._

[@areuaware6842]

@@user-r8or-pko3dfg , Abrahamism is Satanism.

[@nate666]

If you hate slavery why are you still with us? You are a slave to your own body and all it demands of you everyday. You are a slave to supporting your lifestyle and community and all they demand of you. With or without God you are a slave 😂

[@EnglishMike]

After a decade of imploring God for any sign, no matter small, that he was with me, it was especially galling to see pastors and other Christians casually talking about how God had spoken to them that morning, or how he had answered their prayer about some silly little trivial matter in their otherwise comfortable lives -- like their stalling car starting at the first attempt after praying. There are Christians who even relate the "conversations" they have with God on a daily basis. Do they never think of the millions of people who suffer incredible hardships and suffering without ever having a sniff of assistance or comfort despite their desperate prayers and pleas for help? Of course they don't, because it would burst the tiny little bubble they live in.

[@nomopayn]

And must we forget Jesus and God love sports.. How many times do we hear an athlete in a postgame interview giving praise to Jesus or to God for having a good game

[@micahjoelgeimer4215]

​@@nomopaynthis. A thousand times

[@hyperteleXii]

Hahaha tell me you've been denied the holy spirit for your sins, without telling me. I see signs all the time.

[@theresemalmberg955]

I brought this up at Bible Study where we were focusing on prayer. The answer I got in regards to finding lost car keys or a parking place was that maybe God answered this prayer because it wasn't trivial, that maybe the person looking for their car keys had some real important place they had to go. One person even said, well, I know this is probably going to come out badly, but maybe the people in other countries who don't have it as good as we do are so used to going without that it really isn't as big a deal to them as it would be for us. So God may be answering their prayers differently than how we would answer them. No, that didn't really come out well . . .

[@joshridinger3407]

​@@hyperteleXiiyou should get your schizophrenia checked out

[@CaptainCanuck68]

How can you have a relationship with someone you've never actually met?

[@CaptainCanuck68]

The relationship is entirely one sided.

[@jezebelvibes]

Very good question!

[@man-yp1gb]

Well said

[@Childfree334]

Absolutely. I'm having a relationship in my head to some God figure I can't see, hear, touch, or in any way know if it's real. I feel like such a fool that I believed it for even a second.

[@dagg310]

if u have a relationship with aliens, ur mentally ill if u have a relationship with god, ur religious

[@jlm5254]

As a former Christian I can affirm that I was in a relationship with Jesus. Partly because I didn’t know any better, didn’t have anyone better, and because Jesus’ dad scared the shit out of me with his cruelty. And as a former Christian I can assert that Christianity is not a relationship; it’s a delusion.

[@davidclark573]

You were in a relationship with Jesus because your parents were christians, if your parents were Muslim you would not have a relationship with Jesus.

[@26beegee]

How does a relationship with an invisible being actually work? I need feedback from those I have a relationship with. I need to see them, give them a hug, know they hear what I say, etc. I cried out to God for any kind of sign until I was about 60. Here I am 11 years later and I still haven’t heard from God. Obviously, he isn’t real.

[@SiyasamuMavanyisi-bz4jv]

Correction just because you have parents who are Christians does not automatically mean you will be one and have relationship with GOD You have to make that decision on your own and not anyone else​@@davidclark573

[@HenrySimmons1225]

What's cruel about God?

[@racerx4152]

so you think that god should never punish sin? that he should just let everything go to hell? look at how much this world has gone to hell, and that's because they ignore god. by destroying wicked people, god incentivise's the rest of us to stop being evil. non christian authorities do this all the time. are they cruel? human beings are never satisfied with the way god does things, and their not happy with the way secular authorities do things. that's why we have prisons. this proves that people are evil. christianity is not a delusion, you just love your sin too much too repent. there's tons of evidence for christianity. read " evidense that demands a verdict" josh mcdowell, and books by lee strobel.

[@mayalaurenboyd]

Kristi, I wanted to comment on your appearance, and I know that doesn’t say much because people can put on a mask and a show, but ever since you coming back and saying you’ve gone to therapy and have gotten diagnosed, I see the happiness and clarity in your eyes and that’s just inspiring me to keep going with my own deconstruction and even go back to therapy myself. Thank you for showing up!!

[@jezebelvibes]

Thank you so much for noticing! I always feel and look my best when I'm taking good care of myself. Something the church didn't really encourage us to do. It's a practice, and it always makes a difference ❤️ keep on your path, and be really kind to yourself! Happy to have you here

[@mayalaurenboyd]

@@jezebelvibes that is SO true. We put others ahead of our own physical and mental health in the church and that’s definitely something I’m unlearning.

[@Amazing_Mark]

Kristi is positively beaming 🙂. 👌

[@greg-op2jh]

That was absolutely beautiful ❤️ both of you are beautiful!

[@Giwii-ojimin]

I see sadness in her eyes, and I'm not commenting this to cut her down. When ppl are away from God and not living for him, it's almost as if there is no life there.

[@Lou_C_Furre]

The wonder of Christianity is that God is a mean, angry, punishing right-winger and Jesus is a loving, caring socialist. And nobody seems to notice.

[@jezebelvibes]

Good cop, bad cop lol

[@18471902]

But @Lou_C_Furre god and jesus are the same being 😄 😄 😄

[@wolftitan]

@@18471902 If you read the Bible that is completely wrong. That is why it's most likely written by many different authors who made stuff up. Oh and funny thing, if "god and jesus are the same being" why pray or talk to himself?

[@riseofdarkleela]

Love the username!

[@user-r8or-pko3dfg]

@@riseofdarkleela And the avatar, which Christians had stolen and appropriated from the half-goat (footed and horned) Pan in Greek mythology as the personification of the devil.

[@smadaf]

"For God so loved the world that He drowned it." Thank you. I'm gonna use that.

[@mistylover7398]

Mondays lol

[@deksper]

Clap clap (slow), for the unrepentant Christ rejector.

[@unclerhombus]

If God’s goal was just to kill everyone, why did he save one family?

[@deksper]

@@unclerhombus You know the saying in regard to assumptions, don't you?

[@user1522p]

@@unclerhombus I guess he missed.

[@stonesnbones9891]

There are 100s KZbin apologetic channels for every single religion and cult under the sun. Every single one of them declares that their faith, and theirs alone, are a relationship and not a religion. Yet, when you get into the faith, all these rules show up . The God or Gods that you have this "relationship" with is suddenly interested in what I wear, what I eat, what I think, what I do, and who I sleep with. No religion is a relationship. It is all about controlling behavior.

[@theboombody]

I'm a Christian, not a Hindu, but the mathematical work of Ramanujan and his claim that his Hindu god told him to write that stuff down is difficult to completely ignore. It's pretty astounding and the work is unbelievable quality.

[@man-yp1gb]

Love your channel, keep up the good work!

[@jezebelvibes]

Thank you ☺️

[@edhall3719]

​@@jezebelvibesThere is a Fountain filled with blood drawn from Immanuels veins and sinners plunged beneath that flood lose all their guilty stains . There is a Fountain old hymn . the word of our God shall stand for ever . Isaiah 40 8 God is not the author of confusion . 1 Corinthians 14 33 . Jesus said Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God . John 3 5 . For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body whether we be Jews or Gentiles whether we be bond or free and have been all made to drink into one Spirit . 1 Corinthians 12 13 . Jesus said John indeed baptized with water but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost . Acts 11 16 on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost . Acts 10 45 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour . Titus 3 6 washed us from our sins in his own blood . Revelation 1 5 we have now received the atonement . Romans 5 11 it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul . Leviticus 17 11 For I know that my redeemer lives and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth. Job 19 25 Jesus said If any man thirst let him come unto me and drink. John 7 37. In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness . Zechariah 13 1 . Neither will I hide my face any more from them for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel saith the Lord God . Ezekiel 39 29 .

[@shortcircuit-nm8rq]

@@jezebelvibes helping people deconstruct religion is great but drifting them away further from the God is bad really bad, all your questions have real answers, you would be surprised you have zero excuses

[@SlimShady51]

​@@shortcircuit-nm8rq God is an atheist. So she is bringing them closer to Him.

[@DG-cu1vt]

@@shortcircuit-nm8rq Prove that there is a god. Even more so, the god that you believe in. There is no proof for any god.

[@memecity9849]

Nah, it's a religion. Relationships are reciprocal in reality

[@theboombody]

My religion has blessed me in a way that has been highly non-reciprocal. I reap way more than I sow and it makes no sense. I'm not materially rich, but I'm not impoverished, and whatever goal I've had my heart set on has been granted. Then I have to search for new goals. I really don't know how to be more blessed than that.

[@Jake-mv7yo]

@@theboombody You could have been aborted and be in Heaven right now. That is truly blessed.

[@Wayden-i2v]

You are my favorite KZbinr creator out of all! You have brought me so much peace and mind clarity and my life is so much easier now ! ❤

[@jezebelvibes]

Thanks so much for saying that ☺️ I'm so happy my videos have helped you ❤️❤️

[@edhall3719]

​@@jezebelvibesThere is a Fountain filled with blood drawn from Immanuels veins and sinners plunged beneath that flood lose all their guilty stains . There is a Fountain old hymn . the word of our God shall stand for ever . Isaiah 40 8 God is not the author of confusion . 1 Corinthians 14 33 . Jesus said Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God . John 3 5 . For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body whether we be Jews or Gentiles whether we be bond or free and have been all made to drink into one Spirit . 1 Corinthians 12 13 . Jesus said John indeed baptized with water but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost . Acts 11 16 on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost . Acts 10 45 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour . Titus 3 6 washed us from our sins in his own blood . Revelation 1 5 we have now received the atonement . Romans 5 11 it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul . Leviticus 17 11 For I know that my redeemer lives and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth. Job 19 25 Jesus said If any man thirst let him come unto me and drink. John 7 37. In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness . Zechariah 13 1 . Neither will I hide my face any more from them for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel saith the Lord God . Ezekiel 39 29 .

[@davidclark573]

BREAKING AWAY FROM A RELIGION THAT KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN THE PAST FOR NOT CONVERTING, IS A GOOD THING.

[@josephaltman460]

​@@jezebelvibes I feel the same way. Thank you 💯

[@racerx4152]

until you have to face god. denying it wont make it go away.

[@jle4433]

I tried for eleven long years to understand why my creator is such a fucking sadist. I was instructed to think of myself as a filthy pile of rags who only could be saved by the son of the sadist itself. It didn't make sense.

[@dagg310]

they tell us we are created in the image of god and then we're told we're filthy piles of rags that need to be saved. talk about major gaslighting

[@michaelmccaffrey2731]

The church totally takes that quote from Isaiah out of context. In context, those that don't keep the commandments, their works are as filthy rags... Just an FYI from a a guy that almost turned Jewish. Now, after thorough examination of the old testament as well, I discovered that it's all mess

[@jle4433]

@@michaelmccaffrey2731 What's the difference? A stick and carrot religion is all about beating the congregation into a whimpering pile of self-loathing drones. Having been born Jewish and forced through Jewish school for five years and then converted to Xtianity before deconstructing, I learned that all members of the dark triad of Abrahamic religions are fire and brimstone.

[@sundayoliver3147]

@@michaelmccaffrey2731 I had the same experience.

[@kelseykjarsgaard5774]

Cause we're sinners and not suppose to rely on our own understanding 😅 just no proof. It even has links to Sumerian and gnsotic myths

[@KimbaIsHere]

You are the shining example of freedom from the tyranny of complementarism. Always enjoy your work. The amount of effort and thought you put into each and every video really shows.

[@thesixthgirl6199]

I did an absolute spit-take when you described randomly opening the Bible in the hope of finding some kind of relevance or guidance to your life, and finding a "begat" list. How about a show of likes for those of us who've done that!

[@jezebelvibes]

🤣 I knew I wouldn't be alone in this!

[@Sparkypumps]

Guilty...

[@riseofdarkleela]

lol just another one of the non answers one can find in, well, any book.

[@docforest4851]

Actually, you can do that with almost any book that has advice in it. Or better, a horoscope book. Don’t even bother using your zodiac sign….anything will seem to apply.

[@dhuratadobbins3001]

Last time I did that I stopped reading the Bible all together, no point to ask a God whole doesn’t even respond

[@CharlesPayet]

It’s a highly irritating approach by Christians, because if they really mean it, then literally every single person’s “relationship with Jesus” qualifies as an individual religion. Not just thousands of Christian denominations, but billions.

[@jezebelvibes]

Oh wait! That's a really interesting point!

[@CaptainCanuck68]

@@CharlesPayet They're all arguing over whose imaginary friend is better.

[@CharlesPayet]

@@jezebelvibes thank you! 🙏

[@heiwaii847]

Well that would explain one reason why there's disagreements even from those within the same denominations. Just seems like another way to divide people to be honest. Like we need more of that nowadays

[@koshgam]

Appreciate your video! Deconstruction is a process, and this helps alot.

[@jezebelvibes]

I'm so happy this helps!

[@ccjjock4002]

BECAUSE MUCH OF WHAT SHE IS SAYING IN HER VIDEO CLIPS ARE TRUE.

[@mainecoonmami]

If it’s a relationship, it’s an abusive one.

[@HenrySimmons1225]

what

[@James-wv3hx]

I'm renting a room to an old friend who is a Christian. And he complains all the time that his daughter won't talk to him. I started to show him your opinion but he refused to listen.

[@DeJaVuCa]

We are in an awakening. 2024 CE

[@krissys0sw33t]

Can’t force people to believe what they don’t want to

[@abiliv-lf9tz]

Maybe thats why his daughter won't listen to him--

[@abiliv-lf9tz]

You didn't force him right?

[@valerune192]

literally, you cant argue with crazy people, cuz they dont listen, dont see reason, dont think for themselves. You should just throw him out and rent to someone less problematic

[@corrine.talbot8]

I'm mind blown by you! Thank you for this...

[@jezebelvibes]

❤️

[@edhall3719]

​@@jezebelvibesJesus said Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness for they shall be filled . Matthew five six . Jesus said for my flesh is meat indeed and my blood is drink indeed . John six fifty five . For he hath made him to be sin for us who knew no sin that we might be made the righteousness of God in him . Second Corinthians five twenty one . For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ . Galatians 3 27 . For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness but unto us which are saved it is the power of God . First Corinthians 1 18. Jesus said before Abraham was I am. John eight fifty eight. Jesus said this is the bread which cometh down from heaven that a man may eat thereof and not die . John six fifty. Then said the Lord unto Moses Behold I will rain bread from heaven for you . Exodus 16 4 Jesus said I am that bread of life . John six forty eight. I am poured out like water and all my bones are out of joint my heart is like wax it is melted in the midst of my bowels . Psalm 22 14 Jesus said John indeed baptized with water but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost . Acts 11 16 on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost . Acts ten forty five . Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour . Titus 3 6 washed us from our sins in his own blood . Revelation 1 5 we have now received the atonement . Romans 5 11 it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul . Leviticus 17 11 . There is a Fountain filled with blood drawn from Immanuels veins and sinners plunged beneath that flood lose all their guilty stains. There is a Fountain old hymn

[@Neku628]

@@jezebelvibes Have you already tackled the claim that if you sin, God closes all communication to you. "God can't be in the presence of sin", I forget how they phrase it.

[@christasimon9716]

@@Neku628 Yet everyone is a sinner.

[@arthuryi3130]

Thank you once again for the video. The section around 14:00 - 16:00 about how it difficult it is to have a healthy relationship with God when there is silence all around is exactly what happened to me. I prayed and prayed to God when I was a Christian, yet it felt like talking to a brick wall. The response from other Christians about needing faith and time. Well, after 30 plus years of waiting, I realized that it is better to just give up and that maybe there is no God that will answer your prayers or is listening to what you say to Him in quiet time. And yes, Christianity is a toxic religion and relationship.

[@ccjjock4002]

BLINDS PEOPLE FROM REALITY!!!! (CHRISTIANITY)

[@platzhirsch4275]

Let's assume you life in a kingdom. Your king is your king who in a way takes care of his kingdom, as your live in that kingdom of course the king 🤴 indirectly takes care of you too. But he's nevertheless the King and not your best friend. Do you have the right to personally talk to your King because he's your king? Can you stand at his gate and demand the king come down to talk to you? Expecting such a relationship from your King truly tells more about you then of the king. Doesn't it? If you then walk around town slandering the king because he didn't come to talk to you calling him abusive and the king nevertheless leaves you to do so that tells alot about both you and the king too.

[@Kelley_X]

@@platzhirsch4275 this whole video was about Christians claiming “it’s a relationship, not a religion” and you gave an analogy about a remote ruler that does not want to see you. well played, well played

[@platzhirsch4275]

​@@Kelley_X the analogy was held simple for you to understand. I could use another analogy, but first these two points: 1. God doesn't demand you worship him and praise him to go to "heaven". That's not the idea of what life on earth is about. You're life on earth is solemnly about YOU! God made you and gave you all your talents and gifts to use them however you please. He loves you to use those talents as you please and Rejoice in it. The praise to God comes when understanding that naturally to many, but unfortunately not to all- like you. You received your life and gifts and think therefore God owes you the right to be constantly there for you on a direkt personal level. You have a problem and pray and expect God to immediately interact with you and if he "doesn't" you turn your back and post slanderous videos full of abuse and belittlement and at the same time, despite your felt entitlement towards God, you call him abusive towards you. So let me tell you a story: There was once was a young couple that loved themselves dearly, war broke out and the husband had to go to war. The couple kissed and hugged at the train station and the woman vowed to love him forever. The husband went to war always carried the picture of his beloved bride in hid breast pocket, kissing it every day. The woman wrote many letters ✉️ to him, but couldn't call him of course. He got many letters from her and send many flowers to drop in front of her front door to show his love. One day after some years the husband got a leave on short notice and came home 🏡 . The woman had thrown all his belongings in the trash, thrown their marriage ring away, burnt their pictures, removed his name from the front door and was using social media to slander him badly what a wicked and abusive man he was. He found her with another man. On seing her husband she was shocked but accused him it was his fault that she did all that as he never answered any letters all those years. The husband looked at her in tears saying: those flowers 💐 in front of the door 3x week where from me, your favourite song I got your radio station to play every Saturday was from me, the coffee that was left every Sunday with your favourite marmalade and toast every Sunday morning was from me. Truly you are this woman and Christ shall likewise return. He loves you too. Think again weather your behavior is appropriate. ❤

[@ericajohnson4015]

I remember being forced/guilted into going to church by my grandma on my moms side. Sitting there and hearing how I was nothing but dirty rags and the lowest of the low was hard. And just how the preacher said it, and how people agreed....and then they said the only way to be worthy was to let Jesus into our hearts, and it meant letting him control our lives. I just couldn't do it, I tried, but even as a little kid, I had terrible anxiety, and I felt worse for not allowing him his way. So I just resigned myself to never actually being saved. It also made me put up with a lot of bullying at school because it just felt like reinforcement that I was a terrible person and deserved it. I still struggle with negative self talk but im trying to get past it and deconstruct as best I can.

[@sundayoliver3147]

Yes, this is one of the things that Christianity-- even the secular versions of it we encounter in our schools, laws, businesses, and social mores--programs us with: we're unworthy to be alive. Heck of a thing for a god to say, but then, Yahweh was originally a god of war, so maybe that's why we get this message of annihilation. (Yahweh was one of about 80 Canaanite gods. They allowed their gods to have a lot more qualities than constant warfare.)

[@Isaac-hm6ih]

Self esteem is hard to find once it's damaged. My situation was very different (autistic person surrounded by well meaning non-autistic people, rather than an abusive religion), but deconstructing my own negative self talk has led to a sort of defiant insistence on my own self worth. Others make demands without realising what obeying would cost most of the time. And if someone believes you're inherently worthless, they don't deserve your respect or any more attention than it takes to protect yourself from them.

[@theboombody]

@@Isaac-hm6ih I once said self-control builds more self-respect than self-esteem ever will. Self-esteem can still build respect of course, but self-control builds it a whole heck of a lot more. It's difficult to master though.

[@greg-op2jh]

The amazing thing for me is saying the prayer and wanting it..but then questioning a million times if I really was saved. It was absolutely terrifying. So glad to be free from that.

[@26beegee]

You deserve respect just as much as anyone else! Just the fact that you exist makes you valuable. Ever hear of the butterfly effect? The ripples of air created by butterfly wings cause a ripple effect that touch more people and things than you can ever know! You are changing lives in positive ways just by being here! You just touched my life!! Thank you! I needed that as I am a grieving mother who needed to be touched! You just touched my heart, Erica! ❤️

[@FoursWithin]

So a relationship with a malignant narcissist is held up as the highest greatest most important relationship that anyone can ever have. Hallelujah 😮

[@Tom-and-Jerry-again]

When did GOD appear to you as a malignant narcissist? Did you see GOD do something like that to you? Are you just relying on yours or others interpretations regarding ancient stories?

[@FoursWithin]

@@Tom-and-Jerry-again The God that's being referred to is the abrahamic God of the Bible. The stories themselves make it clear over and over again the many attributes of malignant narcissism this particular God holds. If you need more details the video offers plenty.

[@MrCanis4]

'Relationship with God' the one I don't miss not having.

[@soniachambers6460]

Truth

[@AlanObrien-if4ie]

Kristi you are a universal voice of reason ,keep up the good work and allow your reality to transcend all religions so more can be set on the right path

[@PrestonGwoompi]

I discovered your channel just before you went on your break. Your videos helped me come out as an atheist. Thank you for your awesome content and sharing your experiences with us.

[@jezebelvibes]

So happy you're finding your own authentic path 😊❤️

[@AlejandroMéndez-j6j]

If it's not a religion then pay the dam taxes that you are evading by claiming it's a religion!

[@sparXKuijper]

👌

[@jamie5mauser]

I have a problem with the self-righteousness of Christians. That god does then special favors, while punishes others, particularly starving children or the innocent children killed in war.. But he’s really concerned about your football game, Jim…

[@hyperteleXii]

Maybe the children weren't innocent. If you had read the Bible, you would know that sins can destroy several generations down the line.

[@user-r8or-pko3dfg]

The most prosperous states: Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Mass. The least: Mississippi, West Virginia, Louisiana, Arkansas.

[@Isaac-hm6ih]

​@hyperteleXii So your saying they're affected by some kind of mystical corruption which existed in the Hebrew religion, and claiming that that is the same as morality? Morally speaking, they're innocent. Some form of hypothetical infectious karma is irrelevant to morals.

[@sundayoliver3147]

@@hyperteleXii Yes, and there's also that line in the Bible about how "the sins of the fathers shall not be visited on the children". How do you square these contradictions? Or do you just ignore them?

[@hyperteleXii]

It's not a contradiction. You can have both, applied to each individual circumstance. If you read the Bible, you will come to understand the relevant variables. For example, God is both peaceful and violent. That's not a contradiction, it's a judicious application of power through a moral will. Some have it coming, others will be saved. Everyone can in theory save themselves, but not everyone practically will. Some choose evil to their early graves. Others endure lasting blessings for following simple rules. Truly pathetic if you can't. @@sundayoliver3147

[@walterude6323]

When my dad died after two years of suffering cancer, on the first night after he passed, my family and I gathered to talk about his funeral and to talk about our grief. And I said that if god exists, then he's cruel for letting my dad suffer for so long before taking his life. And my mother, as Christian as they come, went ballistic. She was horrified by what she considered my audacity to question god. And that's a god I'm supposed to be in a relationship with? One who has such a fragile constitution, I'm not even allowed to vent my grief to him? Even in my pain, I'm supposed to be well-behaved toward him? Yeah, no.

[@theboombody]

Many Biblical prophets vented their grief to God and God didn't love them any less for doing so.

[@davidclark573]

No one on planet Earth even knows what god is so why should you be chastised for questioning god?

[@Lovley11649]

First I want to say sorry that you had that experience. The thing is about Christianity just like any race, or group of people there a good and there are bad in it. Some Christian’s are so legalistic, pious and religious in their walk with Christ that they don’t know how to show compassion or understanding towards others who may not share their same beliefs. I’m a Christian and just want to let you know your questions are valid, even in the Bible people questioned God. Habbauk is such an underrated book in the Bible because he asked tough, unconventional questions that a lot of unbelievers asked yet some Christian’s are so pious and uneducated in scripture that they bash people for having those questions instead of trying to understand and show grace. I hope you can understand that all Christian’s aren’t judgmental and ignorant. Hope you don’t see us all that way. Aagin your questions are valid! God bless you!💖

[@unclerhombus]

Read the stories of the Bible - there are plenty of people in there who became directly angry at God. It’s part of being a human being.

[@Colddirector]

Honestly I don’t disagree with you, but that *really* isn’t a good time to say something like that. A family member just died, emotions are running high, you’re not going to convince anyone you’ll just start a fight. I get the urge, I said some pretty vicious things about funeral planners when my dad died, but all it did was make my mum even more upset.

[@Jacqueline-4678]

Christy, I love your channel. It’s inspiring and so positive. And I too noticed that you are so much more relaxed . I am glad you took care of yourself. It shows. I always enjoy the new content. So many times you bring up subjects that I also wondered about. You bring clarity. Thank you.

[@StrongAtheist68]

You are wonderful! Thank you for being brave and talking about this.

[@xtina2189]

Funny how the all-knowing, all-powerful, perfect lover of your soul, is SUCH a Shitty communicator to those claiming to be loved by it.🙄

[@AlejandroMéndez-j6j]

Don't forget that moron is the one who created them. So either he messed up big time during the "perfect" plan or idk...

[@emmawheeler4624]

Kirsti I could listen to you all day. Every single video has me nodding along and agreeing. I was in an abusive relationship for 9 years, and then a few years later became a Christian. From one abusive relationship to another. They say it often happens but I never even considered a religion as being a toxic relationship. Yet it’s so true, every single word. Love you and your content ❤

[@TheKnealing]

Was raised Pentecostal. Always felt like God had his thumb ready to squash me for being a sinner and not living up to his standards.

[@divine-by-zero]

Hooo, Kristy’s gonna make a bunch of people BIG MAD!! 😂😂😂 Love it. Great episode.

[@jezebelvibes]

That's pretty typical 😭🥴🤣

[@DeJaVuCa]

Compliance is not an attribute

[@user-r8or-pko3dfg]

They're just being faithful . . . *Titus 2:9-10* "Teach _SLAVES_ to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them, and not to steal from them, but to show that they can be fully trusted, so that in every way they will make the teaching about God our Savior attractive." *1 Timothy 2:1-3* “I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people - for *KINGS* and all those in *authority* - that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. This is good, and pleases God our Savior.” *1-Timothy 2:11-14:* "A woman should learn in _quietness_ and _full_ SUBMISSION. I do *NOT* permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be _QUIET._ For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a _sinner."_

[@Keisha-e4q]

She's going to help a lot of people who struggles with their belief as she did.

[@greg-op2jh]

❤️

[@khildenbrand1]

"My feelings don't matter." "Boundaries are not an option." Spot on! No wonder why being raised in this religious culture is so damaging.

[@loledssdafd3429]

Wondering why studies show that Christians are more happy than atheists

[@atheistcomments]

Its not a personal relationship. Its a personal delusion. It ties into "God" only existing as an imaginary character.

[@aliasfakename3159]

If Christianity is a relationship, then God has 3 billion partners who he abuses, gaslights, and ignores but gets pissy if ONE of us stops praising him

[@DG-cu1vt]

That makes for some pretty nasty STDs. 🤣

[@Isaac-hm6ih]

While some who call themselves his favourites claim he's against polygamy, despite his own alleged words supporting it.

[@HenrySimmons1225]

How is he? That makes 0 sense

[@CaptainCanuck68]

I love people who love indiscriminately, without prerequisites. If there are conditions to your love I'm not interested in it.

[@CaptainCanuck68]

God requires your love before he "loves" you.

[@PolymorphicPenguin]

The sort of love that your talking about is exactly the sort of love that Jesus commanded his followers to have. Now, do we Christians live up to Jesus' teaching? No, we all fall so short, but if there are conditions to love then Jesus isn't interested in it either. In Luke 6:32, Jesus says "“If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them" (NIV)

[@Childfree334]

​@PolymorphicPenguin The kind of love you describe from the Bible is not anything I want to be part of. Loving people who don't love you is idolatry and invites ALL KINDS of abuse. My mother loved a man who didn't love her, and because of that, her children suffered greatly. There is ZERO reciprocity in the biblical version of love. No thank you.

[@xtina2189]

And their conditions are always hidden from you until they're ready to cash-in on the fact, that you haven't met their secret conditions.

[@edhall3719]

​@@xtina2189There is a Fountain filled with blood drawn from Immanuels veins and sinners plunged beneath that flood lose all their guilty stains . There is a Fountain old hymn . the word of our God shall stand for ever . Isaiah 40 8 God is not the author of confusion . 1 Corinthians 14 33 . Jesus said Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God . John 3 5 . For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body whether we be Jews or Gentiles whether we be bond or free and have been all made to drink into one Spirit . 1 Corinthians 12 13 . Jesus said John indeed baptized with water but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost . Acts 11 16 on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost . Acts 10 45 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour . Titus 3 6 washed us from our sins in his own blood . Revelation 1 5 we have now received the atonement . Romans 5 11 it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul . Leviticus 17 11 For I know that my redeemer lives and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth. Job 19 25 Jesus said If any man thirst let him come unto me and drink. John 7 37. In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness . Zechariah 13 1 . Neither will I hide my face any more from them for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel saith the Lord God . Ezekiel 39 29 .

[@urban_hermit_731]

I wish I'd had this clarity of thought that you show here decades ago.

[@18471902]

"When a 'Relationship with God' Turns Unhealthy"--A relationship with god IS unhealthy. I know because I was there for 18 years. Kristi, regarding your comments beginning at 14:08 that you continually prayed to god for him to reveal to you what he wanted you to do, that was the final experience that broke me of christianity. Besides doing all the other things believers do, seemingly with no results whatsoever except confusion and emotional pain, I constantly prayed to god for years for him to tell me or reveal to me what he wanted me to do with my life for his glory, how I should serve him, how I should witness, what career he wanted me to pursue, and I prayed for the well-being of others. I NEVER prayed for any earthly or material thing for myself. I got nothing but silence--or, as you put it, crickets. Long after my de-conversion, a believer confronted me about my unbelief. I made the general statement to him that god never answered any of my prayers. Without enquiring of me in the least what I prayed for, he launched on a lengthy lecture about how I prayed for selfish, worldly things, and that if, instead, I would only pray for god's guidance as to how I should serve him, he WOULD answer my prayers!

[@sundayoliver3147]

Yes, listening does not appear to be a skill of religious proselytizers.

[@BeccaYoley]

Unfortunately, Christianity also kind of teaches that your husband takes the place of your father, and he then has authority over you as a parent does a child. Super gross and repulsive!! Great video, Kristi!

[@LawrenceAdele1919]

Thank you, Kristi. This is such an important conversation! We have been indoctrinated to accept abuse from religion; it's insidious and permeates everything. I appreciate your channel!

[@mailill]

Relationship between God-humans, as described in the Bible 1. Father - Child 2. Husband - Bride 3. Lord - servant/slave (Paul goes back and forth between 1 and 3, contradicting himself about it)

[@jezebelvibes]

Good catch! That definitely adds another unsavory layer.

[@barefootincactus]

None of these relationships have ever been positive and healthy in my life: parents, spouse, employment. Since God is invisible and never speaks anything I believe God does is simply my imagination. He’s an imaginary friend. I prefer my dog.

[@edhall3719]

​@@jezebelvibesyou're right about religion but wrong about God. I met God at the cross when Jesus saved me I'm washed in the blood of the Lamb . It's that simple . For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world but that the world through him might be saved . John 3 seventeen . I don't go to church either it's all a racket including yours

[@abiliv-lf9tz]

Ew so an incestuous abusive relationship Ew 💀🤮

[@holaguacamole4058]

​@@edhall3719 did you know Jesus and Paul were not talking about THAT kind of salvation you have in mind? They were thinking about being saved from their physical enemies (the Roman empire) but once that belief entered pagan Roman cities, it didn't make any sense for Roman citizens so it was changed and twisted to mean what modern Christians believe.

[@Requinix17]

The "its a relationship not a religion" was my absolute go-to line when I was a Christian. It makes me sick now

[@nicholasbutner3039]

The last relationship I had lasted close to 13 years. You know what the best part of it was? The fact that she actually existed and I saw her on a daily basis. We lived together, made big decisions together, and spoke to each other all the time. I'll say this about the Christian god: he's arguably prophetic, because his "relationship" with his people was an eerily accurate simulacrum of catfishing thousands of years before computers even existed! Pretty impressive stuff.

[@cravenlestat7006]

LOL haha catfishing I love it and it fits perfectly

[@Idk.-.]

Nothing could ever convince me to believe in this religion! Thank you for making these videos, Kristi! ❤

[@davesteadman1226]

Our first mistake is expecting those who profiteer from religion to ever be honest!

[@jabronijames]

I think if you have a partner and they tell you “I love you incredibly much, but if you do (x) you deserve to be tortured for eternity”, that isn’t them being loving. That isn’t being merciful. That’s them being coercive and giving you a threat. Now consider that we have to deify, love and worship this person and defend them with flimsy words after they commit mass genocides and regulate systems of human ownership and eternal suffering for finite sins with no option for redemption. This seems like you’re in a Stockholm situation relationship… loving this God and given false promises of milk and honey in this afterlife you have no clue ever exists if you defend this God to the ends of the earth.

[@jezebelvibes]

Well stated

[@dagg310]

it's also not a choice when u tell someone, marry me or i'll lock u in my basement for the rest of ur life. ur only going to do the other choice so u can avoid the basement, which in the end isn't a choice !

[@zap...]

He who seeks God is lost. He who finds him is crazy.

[@nate666]

But at least I will be alive

[@sos1691]

@@nate666 Alive and crazy? And you are satisfied with that?

[@riseofdarkleela]

@@nate666at least that’s what you now believe….

[@BeefT-Sq]

@@nate666 "Nobody uses faith when crossing the street". -Unknown-

[@hyperteleXii]

This moronic idea dies of extinction very soon, because the Godless are unable to have children. Both births and fertility rates plummeting.

[@CaptainCanuck68]

A parent's job is also to educate the child yet God seems to want people to be frightened and ignorant. That's an abusive relationship with someone who wants only your fear and worship. He punishes people for their lack of belief and curiosity. He casts out his own children from Eden for their curiosity.

[@anishb9216]

He also tortures his own people

[@dagg310]

no different than putting ur child in a room full of candy and then punishing them for eating the candy. why put ur child in that position in the first place just so u can punish them? and then go on to punish the rest of mankind for eternity?? not very divine imo.

[@rageofheaven]

"Your honor, it's not my fault my toddler wandered into the pool and drowned. I mean, I knew it would happen, I watched it happen, and still did nothing to stop it, but you know, they made their own decisions."

[@sundayoliver3147]

And we see this exact dynamic spelled out politically by right-wing governments or would-be governments.

[@eleden3356]

I like to joke that Christians are stuck in a toxic relationship.. Watching this video still gave me whiplash-- This went from making me think of toxic relationships, to abusive ones.. to hearing things that sounded borderline illegal???? What a.. strange love..

[@scottmoore7588]

The thing that disgusts me most about religious people is that in their eyes, God can do no wrong. God could come down in human form and do something unspeakably evil such as raping a child, and theists would look at each other and go "Ah well, that's too bad. Hey did you see that football game yesterday?" Yet they have the audacity to tell atheists that we have no way of knowing right from wrong. Disgusting.

[@RashadJames-y3e]

Well God wouldn’t down and rape a child

[@xenowarrior282]

Nah, you've got it wrong. They wouldn't say, "Ah well, that's too bad" They would be cheering for it, and might inspire others to join in. Remember, God in their eyes is the ultimate incarnation of good. He is righteousness and justice and goodness itself. So if he ever did indeed do that to a child, it would be seen as an ultimate act of good. Who cares what the child thinks, God is doing it, therefore, it is good. Honestly, with all the times God committed genocide and other such atrocities in the Bible, it's a wonder why most people who follow the Bible don't get in on the action nowadays.

[@Cowplunk]

One thing you didn't mention that I see among devout Christians I know is an attitude that Christians are to be dependent on God at all times. What kind of father wants his children to remain dependent on him throughout their lives? A bad one! I think the better analogy is probably the shepherd/sheep relationship, but in these modern times, admitting that you are a like a sheep is not a very good look.

[@jezebelvibes]

Which is funny, because I've had christian conservatives call ME sheep as an insult 🤣🥴

[@yzettasmith4194]

The main point of my atheism is that either god is an uncaring bastard or that there is no god. It's less frightening and hurtful to believe there is no god rather than believing in the god of the bible. That's the emotional side. Rationally, I agree with Aron Ra that there's no evidence and therefore god is not true.

[@Saje3D]

That particular god is self contradictory. You can’t be both petty and perfect. It’s ridiculous. Give him some of humanity’s worst traits and pretend he’s perfect? It’s like walking into your teenager’s room and finding him threatening to burn his ant colony because the little bastards won’t worship him. Their god needs a celestial therapist, not worship.

[@theboombody]

The main point of atheism is that there is no god. If you think that god is uncaring, that's not atheism. But I think a lot of people out there do believe there's an uncaring god out there by their constant badmouthing of him. I would imagine a lot of people who believe he never existed probably would dedicate as little attention to him as possible since it would be a waste of precious limited time.

[@kelseykjarsgaard5774]

Yeah but then they have to worry bout threat of hell

[@CoderOfBugs]

​@theboombody One can talk about a fictional character's attributes while not believing the character exists in reality. The reason you don't hear people "bad mouthing" characters from other stories is likely because people aren't using those characters to justify harmful worldviews. Lets use an example to expose the fault in your logic... If people didn't believe Darth Vader existed, then they wouldn't talk about him in popular culture all the time! A well reasoned person should be able to differentiate between internal critiques of a worldview and rebellion against a real world threat. The interesting thing is, both of these things likely drive the motives of people like Kristi, but not in the way you are implying. Ideas can be dangerous once people manifest them as a real life entity, but the idea itself is not real. Only the manifestation is real. Without the manifestation of the God character through the ideology of people who proclaim the idea as truth outside of manifestation alone, there would be no need to talk about it. Manifestation (how I am using it): The phenomena attributed to an idea when it can be observed through actions of individuals. (Example: Love is manifested when a husband listens to and values the feelings of his wife) "If God didn't exist, it would be necessary to invent him." - Voltaire

[@osasgordon4079]

Kristi, it is incredibly helpful to deconstruct with your content. Being a pastors kids (both parents) this is not the easiest though I know im on the right track because i truly feel free and at least im better off saying "I dont know" about anything about christianity

[@sundayoliver3147]

"I don't know" in general is such a liberating statement. Because it's so often true.

[@johnspringstorm4764]

as always, love your channel. I grew up Amish. Please keep posting.

[@timmatter1058]

I have a relationship with my wife. If I'm away, I can call her and have a 2 way conversation with her and she can tall me things I need to know that she does, like what is on the store list that I should buy, or did I lock the cat in the bedroom where there is no litter box. Christians don't have that with Jesus. They get warm and fuzzy feeling that Jesus hears them, but that is a feature of Mormonism, and they don't think Mormonism is true. Christians never get any useful information the they don't know, but God would, like what is the street address of the nearest person being held prisoner in a basement as a sex slave. God would know that, but they never get that information from God.

[@Mrpr0071]

God testing people feels so unnecessary when he supposedly knows everything past, present and future. He should already know what anyone is or was going to do. No need for testing unless he's bored and very sadistic playing with people's feelings/suffering and enjoying the ride or the high of that drug. Very manipulative and unhealthy/abusive relationship.

[@sundayoliver3147]

Well, Job alone would show that the biblical god is bored and sadistic, not to mention the other atrocities.

[@truthseekertay]

Thanks for posting this topic and posting on Sunday 😂 your videos help me in so many ways with my deconstruction and healing process. Thank you ❤️

[@jezebelvibes]

Welcome to church 😅😁 I'm so happy my videos can help ❤️ thanks for being here

[@truthseekertay]

@@jezebelvibes Haha yes the best word yet 🔥 absolutely thanks for having this platform for people to think and seek. Just want to encourage you to keep sharing and setting the captives free. Much love ❤️

[@edhall3719]

​@@jezebelvibesThere is a Fountain filled with blood drawn from Immanuels veins and sinners plunged beneath that flood lose all their guilty stains . There is a Fountain old hymn . the word of our God shall stand for ever . Isaiah 40 8 God is not the author of confusion . 1 Corinthians 14 33 . Jesus said Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God . John 3 5 . For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body whether we be Jews or Gentiles whether we be bond or free and have been all made to drink into one Spirit . 1 Corinthians 12 13 . Jesus said John indeed baptized with water but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost . Acts 11 16 on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost . Acts 10 45 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour . Titus 3 6 washed us from our sins in his own blood . Revelation 1 5 we have now received the atonement . Romans 5 11 it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul . Leviticus 17 11 For I know that my redeemer lives and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth. Job 19 25 Jesus said If any man thirst let him come unto me and drink. John 7 37. In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness . Zechariah 13 1 . Neither will I hide my face any more from them for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel saith the Lord God . Ezekiel 39 29 .

[@edhall3719]

​@@truthseekertayThere is a Fountain filled with blood drawn from Immanuels veins and sinners plunged beneath that flood lose all their guilty stains . There is a Fountain old hymn . the word of our God shall stand for ever . Isaiah 40 8 God is not the author of confusion . 1 Corinthians 14 33 . Jesus said Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God . John 3 5 . For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body whether we be Jews or Gentiles whether we be bond or free and have been all made to drink into one Spirit . 1 Corinthians 12 13 . Jesus said John indeed baptized with water but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost . Acts 11 16 on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost . Acts 10 45 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour . Titus 3 6 washed us from our sins in his own blood . Revelation 1 5 we have now received the atonement . Romans 5 11 it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul . Leviticus 17 11 For I know that my redeemer lives and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth. Job 19 25 Jesus said If any man thirst let him come unto me and drink. John 7 37. In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness . Zechariah 13 1 . Neither will I hide my face any more from them for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel saith the Lord God . Ezekiel 39 29 .

[@EnglishMike]

Re: relationship with God -- the classic Christian "Footprints in the Sand" poster is a perfect example of _post hoc_ rationalization.

[@aspen9326]

Thank you! This is helpful information,in my continued deconstruction,I’m working to see how else religious upbringing affects my thoughts and habits and abilities and beliefs,and a lot of it does go deep. However I’m rooting it out one day at a time and I appreciate your videos and educational approach. Much ❤️!

[@silveryfeather208]

A cop that watches some kid gets assaulted would be rightfully told they are a pos... But god sitting back is just 'well I got other plans' or 'how dare you question god's logic?'

[@Diddy_Dino]

It always cracks me up when Christians say they have a “relationship” with Jesus or God. How do you have a relationship with something that doesn’t interact with you? 😂

[@catherinerosner970]

One of my favorite videos you have done! I remember being taught NOT to listen to those who question. That only got me to seek the truth and question in the years since. What I really like is your comparing side by side the differences between healthy/unhealthy relationships. Sounds like some interesting talking points with my Christian family and friends. Thank you!

[@BonniBarlow-fn6oj]

When a person has an addiction, it warps their self view and their view of everyone they are in relationships with -- because their relationship is actually with the addiction. An alcoholic can't have relationships with other people because their primary relationship is with alcohol. Same for drugs, sex, gambling -- and religion. When Christians are addicted to their version of God, Jesus, holy trinity, whatever -- that can be their only relationship. Everyone else is secondary. The religion doesn't give them love back -- just like the money, sex and alcohol. It's an empty relationship since it's not based in reality. It's very sad. Thank you for what you do. Also, if not believing in Christianity makes us warped or un-loving, you certainly are a direct answer to that argument - you look radiant in your confidence and your self.

[@Wayden-i2v]

@@BonniBarlow-fn6oj 👏🏽

[@roxydina7615]

I’ve been waiting for this one. Kristi, you do these videos in ways no one else has or can. So Well done. Thank you.

[@justinhoward7725]

During my church "daze" I always thought the relationship with God was one sided..... I was forced to believe in this crap, until my parents just ultimately gave up on me. There was that one time I thought God had talked to me, but it wound up being indigestion. Christianity is based off circular logic, and it drove Christians crazy when I would tell them that. I was brought up a southern Baptist, but as soon as I developed logical reasoning, I called hogwash on the whole idea. I've had a long history with dealing with the church and a lot of it could be written as a comedy because I refused to bow down to anyone or anything. I'm not trying to sound tough by any means and I've suffered a great deal in the process, the constant wars of religion between me and my dad, and the refusal to be tossed into a Baptist group home which is a great story for another day. My parents throwing out everything I owned musically, cds, cassettes, showing my age here, and posters, not to mention all the horror books I had bought. In the south during the early 90s we were still dealing with the side effects of the satanic panic from the 80s, especially in the Baptist churches. Everyday I was getting into trouble about the music I was listening to. Despite it all, I got the last laugh, every time I pick up the guitar, I'm playing music that I was previously barred from listening to. Christianity has been a thorn on my rear since I was 14, and being old at 44, I don't think I'll ever get out from that shadow. At least now I'm not chained to a set of beliefs and or threats, and I live freely as I would like, not dependent on some invisible being waiting to strike me down with a lightning bolt. Sorry for the long winded comment, I've got a long, sordid history with these darn Baptists and I fully support what you are doing.

[@josephaltman460]

Hmm, wonder why they hated our music? 🤔 It's all relative to the size of their steeple. MM Your god is dead and no one cares! NIN He made a god up and called it christianity. NIN F your god, your lord, and your christ! APC

[@justinhoward7725]

@@josephaltman460 I never really followed Manson, or NIN. In the mid 90s I became annoyed with the fan base of Marilyn Manson. A lot of Mansons fans were obnoxious back in those days. Music is subjective, though, one mans trash is another mans treasure. I hated Pink Floyd in my early teenage youth, and as I got older, they became one of my all time favorites. The church I had went to frowned on all secular music so it didn't really matter who or what was playing. If you weren't listening to the Gaithers or Ray Boltz, then you were probably considered an outsider, which is what I became since the youth minister felt I wasn't fit for what they had going on at the time. I figured if I was going to hell, then at least I'll enjoy the music I wanted to hear, and not some crap being pushed onto me by some know it all preacher.

[@jezebelvibes]

Thank you so much for sharing your story. It's a really difficult journey, but the peace and freedom that comes makes it all worth it.

[@kwanelemavuso5640]

I hate how much I spent with this grade A bulls**t called religion , I just never thought that my parents could be wrong about anything so important as my "spiritual welfare " . I can't believe I was so invested in this stupidity. Now I'm suddenly the accursed child who's an apostate when I was such a good child. I think right now I know what it feels like to be suicidal ( in an angry way tho like saying f*ck everyone ) but, it's thanks to seeing you guys go on without shame for your deconstruction stories that I want to see what kind of life I can have for myself if I don't give up on myself, you know? So thanks again 😁

[@LyleFrancisDelp]

Christianity is a cult...pure and simple. Kristi, you are a most beautiful person and we all so very much appreciate your insight. It took me many years, but finally, at the age of 60, I was able to leave it behind. Now at age 63, I find people like you most reassuring.

[@BubbaF0wpend]

All great points, Kristi! The "relationship with god" line always cracks me up, as far as I know, all relationships are with tangible beings; talking to god is literally a 1 sided conversation in your own head, there is 0 relationship happening here, just chatter from one side and nothing from the other

[@Tom-and-Jerry-again]

Not so. For most people, so far in their lives, yes - but not everyone. I have memorized every word and idea perfectly which GOD has conveyed to me so far. I was not nearly as attentive with the angels, prior to arriving into this world, and the few times with them while here, but I remember theirs also, word for word. It's not a one-sided Relationship. If it's one-sided then it's not a Relationship. I think you need to just get out more and try to open your mind to the possibility we actually live in an infinite universe.

[@BubbaF0wpend]

​@@Tom-and-Jerry-again you need medical intervention if you think what you said is real.

[@shriggs55]

"For whom the Lord loves he chastens, and scourges(whips!!) every son he receives." (Heb.12:6)!!

[@ccjjock4002]

I CHALLENGE THIS SCRIPTURE NOW (BECAUSE IF GOD SO LOVE 💞 THE WORLD 🌍 AND GOD CHASTISES WHO HE LOVES , YET SOME PEOPLE DO A LOT OF AUTROCITIES AND NOT GET CHASTISED IN LIFE 🧬 YET OTHER PEOPLE SAY THAT GOD CHASTISED THEM ON IN THEIR LIFETIME.

[@FaithIsNotEvidence]

Finally got a chance to see the whole video. Honestly, breaking it down into those 3 categories of relationships goes a long way to explain how the relationship is unhealthy in every way from a creator being that states he loves you. During my last few months of identifying as a Xristian, it finally dawned on me that I was talking to myself. Listening to my own inner voice. And just like Kristi stated, randomly opening my bible to get a word from the lord. Only to find that what I turned to was no where near what I needed. Making excuses for the lack of real answers.. blaming myself for not fasting long enough or some lack in my prayer life. All B.S., just glad I was able to see the inculcated mythology was in fact just a story from bronze age ppl with limited understanding (not due to their own fault)... it just should not be used as something speaking to ppl today for answers to life's deepest questions. ~ As always, great presentation easy to understand breakdown 👍👍

[@jezebelvibes]

The beautiful thing about realizing the voice of god was your own voice all along, is that you never lose it. It's still there within you :) you were the one guiding yourself all along.

[@lewessays]

I am a chrisitan....but man do I love your videos...food for thought ...99% couldn't handle it lol But, I like you cuz you aint hateful...you just share your thoughts

[@tiavelvet3141]

Hey Kristi. Religious people who get offended at the term "religion" and say "my love for Jesus is not a religion!!! I believe in Jesus and not Christianity!" drive me crazy 😂 OT you have beautiful hair... like snow white!! 💓

[@Fighting-Spirit7]

You are right because then you get I guess individual religion and every person with their own subjective God.

[@katwitanruna]

6:15 my grandfather used to get upset because so many people only hear the first part and not the second. He said when you love someone you don’t do mean things to them because you want the best for them. My grandmother was in charge of finances in the house and only once did I hear him go “Sue Margaret, no” whereupon she nodded and said “Okay Andy” and that was the end of it. No yelling. No being mean to each other. Mutual respect and true love their entire lives.

[@johnjones_1501]

When a Christian says that they are not a religion, but just a relationship with god, they are trying to apply Buddhist religious beliefs to their western system.

[@lemsip207]

Even Buddhists don't claim Buddhism is a relationship but a lifestyle and set of beliefs about life. They don't worship a god but they have rituals such as chanting. They all have shrines in their homes as they don't have places of worship but meet in each other's homes.

[@katherineg9396]

In Bali there were household, local and regional shrines. I'm not a Buddhist, but there is so much about Buddhism to admire; it is forgiving and sees humans with their flaws but encourages them to try to do better.

[@michaelmccaffrey2731]

Jordan Maxwell has videos describing that Judaism and Christianity derived from the Hindu religion

[@ccjjock4002]

I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS AFTER BEING AWOKE FROM (RELIGIOUS NONSENSE).

[@joshridinger3407]

that's nobsense. the one thing buddhism and christianity have in common is the pursuit of self-annihilation. buddhism isn't about a personal relationship with god

[@najashabazz9363]

Needed this video all my life!!!

[@jezebelvibes]

❤️❤️❤️

[@mikearchibald744]

I always tell christians their big undoing was the holidays. As kids we were told there is an invisible sky man who knows everything, that there is a fat man in a red suit who travels the world in one night, there is a rabbit the hides chocolate eggs and a fairy that gives change in exchange for teeth. Then as we grow up we learn there is no fat man, there is no fairy, there is no rabbit, "we were lying". But then its "oh but there's definitely an invisible sky man who knows everything, but no, you'll never see him".

[@HenrySimmons1225]

can you stop bashing a religion

[@mikearchibald744]

@@HenrySimmons1225 You realize what channel you are at right?

[@HenrySimmons1225]

@@mikearchibald744 Yeah, a channel bashing religion, but then cries when religious people bash atheists 😂

[@mikearchibald744]

@@HenrySimmons1225 Being forced to listen to religious gibberish is not 'bashing atheism', its literally holding people against their will. Bash away, anything beyond vague notions of intelligent design are too stupid for anybody to cry about. Sure, god is an old creepy man who doesn't shave. Thats too stupid to ever be insulted by anybody who would make such a claim.

[@doubleplusgoodthinker9434]

Thank you for doing another great video. You really brighten up my day.😊

[@singwithdiana]

Thank you for sharing, Kristi. I've been struggling so much lately with religious trauma and hearing your perspective always helps me cope. I hope you have a wonderful day! :)

[@Tom-and-Jerry-again]

I hope you soon get past all the religious trauma. Religious zealots and extremists can be some of the worst. Try GOD, your Creator, next time.

[@FactStorm]

Ahhh, the CLASSIC "iTs NoT a ReLiGiOn BuT a RelAtiOnShiP" line. Heard across the world, from apologists everywhere. They will always invoke the same fallacies & utterances ad nauseam. It's exhausting dealing with broken records..

[@MG-ot2yr]

Its a "relationship" very similar to a domestic abuse cycle. You're bad and make the abuser punish you, but they love you! And you have free will to leave any time, but if you do they'll blow your brains out.

[@kv4n]

The Bible also compares you to a slave. You’re a “slave to Christ”. Which tracks with “bride of Christ” analogy. Wives were property to them. So that fits the societal norm. God’s your daddy, husband and master.

[@debbielong1882]

This is one of my new favourite channels! Thank you for articulating this so perfectly! ❤

[@shanejohnson1034]

The beginning of the loss of critical thinking skills started from the beginning. Could you imagine how advanced civilization would be with these limiting ideologies?

[@EnglishMike]

I think it's more that critical thinking has always been an uphill battle. It's almost certain that religious beliefs became systemic long before rational thinking did. The Ancient Greek Gods came first, before their nascent mathematical and scientific explorations.

[@sundayoliver3147]

@@EnglishMike Yes, but it seems to me that people with multiple-god pantheons made it much more clear that it WAS mythology-- that the various deities represented qualities in nature or in humans. That's different from a monolithic god who demands that you obey them in everything and don't look for any other qualities but his-- kind of like those relationships where the husband doesn't allow the wife to have any outside friends.

[@steebie_c]

Every time I watch one of your videos, I learn more and more about how indoctrinated I once was! It is wonderfully liberating to dismantle the wonky and fragile (and frankly, non-sensical) beliefs I was taught from childhood as being the real, true, and authentic beliefs. Thank you for your own insights and for sharing your journey with us.

[@johngomes4278]

This is a great channel 🎉

[@jezebelvibes]

Thanks! 😊

[@chrisgreener3654]

Great video. Comparing relationship with god as father child then as a bride and groom are two metaphors that don’t go well together without being creepy.

[@leob3447]

There was a movie in 1999 called Dogma, where George Carlin played a Catholic Cardinal that was making waves rebranding his church with "Buddy Christ" as part of the "Catholicism, Wow!" campaign. I grew up as a Catholic in the 70s and there was not even a hint of Jesus being your buddy, or your relationship with God. It was clear we were all lesser beings that needed to be in awe, respect, and afraid of what God would do if we were not good. The church didn't shy away from the flood or smiting or turning people to salt just because they looked back. You did what you were told and you didn't ask questions. So, it's pretty interesting hearing the modern Christians ask about someone's walk with god, or singing love songs to Jesus in church. No wonder having real relationships with other humans seems so hard when 60-70% of the people around you view god as the ideal parent and think they have an amazing relationship with someone they can't see, touch, or even actually get a real reply from.

[@sundayoliver3147]

I've often though that the biblical god was formed after the model of an Iron Age father, or what an Iron Age father wanted to be. A pity that that image of macho vindictiveness and destruction and absolute power over is still a model for fatherhood today, at least for many.

[@Chuck-se5hh]

I was pleasantly stunned to see that this entire presentation was profoundly accurate in the harsh assertions and illustrations that you made against God. I am speechless. You have spoken truth here. This is profound at the fundamental level of truth about the nature and character of Yawheh.

[@jaflenbond7854]

NO BIBLE, NO CREATOR, NO JESUS CHRIST bring DISHONOR, SUFFERINGS, and ETERNAL DEATHS Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist and LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "immortality of the souls", "afterlife", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation" will definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, shame, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS to their own families and neighbors. The BIBLE, the CREATOR, and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH The Creator is the One who should be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD as written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and Jesus Christ is the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth as written in Matthew 28: 18. All persons on earth who rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless no value whatsoever and willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 will definitely be honored and rewarded by the loving, kind, and merciful Creator with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. The teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that all the loving, kind, respectful, and submissive Worshippers of the Creator who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Ruth, Naomi, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects and citizens of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.

[@jameswright...]

​@@jaflenbond7854 Complete gibberish 😂

[@jaflenbond7854]

@@jameswright... LIARS, CRUEL, MERCILESS, and DECEITFUL PERSONS on EARTH versus the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist and LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "immortality of the souls", "afterlife", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation" are clearly the LIARS, cruel, merciless, and deceitful persons on earth who are obviously hurt, offended, and angered by the TRUTHS that - 1. All persons on earth who rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless and useless no value whatsoever and willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 are clearly the loving, kind, respectful, and submissive persons on earth who are worthy and deserving of the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. 2. The teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that all the loving, kind, respectful, and submissive persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Ruth, Naomi, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects and citizens of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.

[@chadcwk]

You are amazing. Laying out in a calming matter of fact way. Also, great teeth! I’m jealous

[@jezebelvibes]

😊 thanks!

[@chongkim-fh4zp]

Kristi, you have been learning about God for a long time. I can understand how much God has disillusioned you. Am agnostic. Good work, Kristi. Good luck.

[@nubrake802]

I appreciate what you are doing and thank you. Christianity is a sickness to the mind and you are a doctor curing it.

[@YLLPal]

I remember my uni christian group put on a talk called "God hates religion" I went up to the pastor and said "before we go in, I looked the word religion up in the dictionary, and it refers to belief in the supernatural or god." Naturally, he went on to preach about how god wants a relationship, not rules. Suffice to say, my respect for him plummeted

[@msbigup7119]

I so ❤ your clear perspectives on religion and xtianity. When in xtianity I never even considered or questioned how abusive and manipulative this god was. Crazy I know😮. Thank you Kristi💯💫💫💫

[@edhall3719]

There is a Fountain filled with blood drawn from Immanuels veins and sinners plunged beneath that flood lose all their guilty stains . There is a Fountain old hymn . the word of our God shall stand for ever . Isaiah 40 8 God is not the author of confusion . 1 Corinthians 14 33 . Jesus said Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God . John 3 5 . For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body whether we be Jews or Gentiles whether we be bond or free and have been all made to drink into one Spirit . 1 Corinthians 12 13 . Jesus said John indeed baptized with water but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost . Acts 11 16 on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost . Acts 10 45 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour . Titus 3 6 washed us from our sins in his own blood . Revelation 1 5 we have now received the atonement . Romans 5 11 it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul . Leviticus 17 11 For I know that my redeemer lives and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth. Job 19 25 Jesus said If any man thirst let him come unto me and drink. John 7 37. In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness . Zechariah 13 1 . Neither will I hide my face any more from them for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel saith the Lord God . Ezekiel 39 29 .

[@GymLeaderEddie-v7]

I love that you post these usually on Sundays 😂😂😂, not sure if it’s on purpose or not but I’m seated 🪑! ❤

[@jezebelvibes]

It's never on purpose, but it's always a nice bonus when my videos are ready on sunday 🤭