Jill Duggar Breaks Michelle’s Biggest Rule, Reveals Jana’s Secret Life in IBLP, Derick Off to Rehab?

#Duggars #iblp
Jill Duggar opened up about her mom's parenting technique that is super controversial. She also revealed more about Jana Duggar as a Gothard Girl.
Plus Jim Bob wants Derick in Rehab
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[@sheilabradley2892]

I find it ironic that they expect an infant to practice self control to not leave a blanket. But they don't expect MEN to have enough self control to be around women who wear PANTS. 🙄

[@romaolberding7288]

Excellent comment!

[@margaretmacgillicuddy4944]

Yes, great point. Well said. All men in restrictive religions that do not treat women as equals are not real men, they are predators.

[@kristinahuckabee9737]

Perfectly stated.

[@RozaneBeyMcCurdy]

AGREE!!!

[@nursemarie4819]

You win the internet today with this comment!

[@amberpicchi9228]

Regardless of anyone's view on Derrick, he saved Jill.

[@DollyMcD54]

Yeah, because rehab worked sooo well for Josh.

[@romaolberding7288]

First, Josh never had rehab for watching kids online, and second rehab never works for pedophiles!

[@mandogrogurescuedogs]

Lol my thoughts exactly!!!

[@brebee8382]

😂 right!

[@DarkAngelDiva]

Bwahaha

[@LizzieDSSG]

😂😂🤣🤣

[@millenialsmom2214]

I didn't spank my kids, and I'm not passing judgment on spanking, but who HITS A BABY???

[@mariavita7536]

Exactly!

[@jennifersavoy847]

Someone with no morals and a very very VERY unhealthy need to be 100000% in control. I would say that judgement is appropriate in this case!!!

[@christinegivens9048]

Evil ppl hit children.

[@Sandra-vg1jn]

Indeed, a baby or any child does not need to be hit with a stick or hand! What’s wrong with putting the child in an infant seat, playpen or high chair while Mom is busy? Do they put baby on the floor and leave the room-that sounds completely unsafe!

[@rainydayjane8257]

Why not judge people who spank kids? Its barbaric. 🧌🧌

[@mariavita7536]

JimBob should just concentrate on Josh not on Derrick.

[@vickieschweizer5392]

You are so right!

[@juliatimonen4042]

Yup!! He’s got enough to handle there

[@bayonnealice7540]

Well said! However I think it's a little too late for Josh now.

[@CherylMckiver-ij1pl]

The rest of the married Duggars Grown boys doing well..married beautiful wifes & Childern,next oldest married been married doing Great fine!!! As rest that's married😢 also there Childern bless don't be jeauos ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@t-and-p]

Well said! Jill and Derrick have one drink with a meal, on a kid-free date night, and JB hits the ceiling... Yet Josh repeatedly cheats on Anna, has committed child ab-se and accessed CP so vile that he was imprisoned for it, and he's still the golden child? Utter insanity! JB can not claim to be any kind of grandparent if he has no concerns over the safety of Josh and Anna's kids, but is "concerned" about the safety of Jill and Derrick's kids, when they are practising very normal, safe behaviour (a single drink on a night out, with a meal, when the kids are with a sitter would not compromise their kid's safety and would be pretty much out of their system before they even got home).

[@jphwife]

Blanket training is one of the most twisted, abusive practices I have ever heard of. I majored in Early Childhood Education in college. The first year of bonding is essential to a child’s future psychological health. When I had my daughter, I jumped at every little noise she made, I wanted her from day 1 to have the security that I was 100% there for her. To hit an infant for any reason is absolutely unacceptable. It’s the complete opposite of what you should be doing as a parent. Makes me physically ill to think about it. 😢

[@kenyonbissett3512]

One of the things they tell you is you can not spoil a baby before the age of 6 months. Though I do believe that each is different and not just a blob as that statement sort of sounds like. Some babies like closeness, some don’t and so on.

[@karenarrudakjadolphins64ya86]

The age they are hitting these children on blankets. They should all be in prison. I saw a video where a participant in one of the seminars stood up and was all upset that she thought she was the worst mother because she had to keep hitting her child all day long, and they would not stop getting off the blanket. So what was she doing wrong that her child would not stop? Honey, it's called your child is in pain and they are crying. It is just so unbelievable

[@Olive_O_Sudden]

Their entire approach is about conditioning children to be terrified. It's psychotic and abusive and controlling, but that's the fundamental underpinning of Christian Patriarchy.

[@Bildgesmythe]

How dare he equate a beer with destroying a child!

[@Chrissy026]

I’m so very proud of Jill. It’s not easy to go against anyone with forceful personalities, let alone go against ones family of origin that is an abusive cult. She broke free from the generational chains that bound her. She redefined what a healthy family is for herself & her own family. That is independence & strength at its peak. Every new interview that she speaks out in leaves me prouder and prouder of her. ❤

[@susansmith4721]

I’m glad Jill and Derrick are giving their kids a normal life!

[@liseklerekoper2441]

So well said. Jill took control of the narrative of her own life & is breaking the cycle of the IBLP-focused upbringing she was raised in by parenting in a very different way w/ her own kids.

[@Chrissy026]

@@liseklerekoper2441 Thank you so much🥰❤️Well said on your comment too 🥰❤️

[@Chrissy026]

@@susansmith4721 Me too. 💯 🥰❤️

[@emilyburkett995]

Yes vdfg🎉🎉❤sfhd

[@evelynshore9489]

I’m currently reading Jill’s book. All I can say is Thank God for Derick.

[@peggyknecht5551]

Me too. I thank God that Derick is there for Jill. He is supporting her through her journey.

[@karenarrudakjadolphins64ya86]

To bad Jessa didn't get someone like him

[@peggyknecht5551]

@@karenarrudakjadolphins64ya86 IKR!

[@ellenboyd4842]

@@karenarrudakjadolphins64ya86yeah everybody’s husband needs to be in rehab.

[@nicoletheseeker6139]

I can't put it down and i never read except the bible

[@gaylem4333]

I went to an IBLP Seminar in Philadelphia back in ca. 1972. It was fun to be in the arena with all those people, but I was slowly disappointed with Bill Gothard. This seminar was so hyped up and would teach us Christians how to live successful lives. It was expensive. I remember the syllabus was something like $17.00 which was a fortune back then. I was getting minimum wage. It didn’t fit my life at all. My mother made sure I got an education beyond high school so I would have a career. She did not want me to feel dependent on a man for survival. So I didn’t fit the Stepford Wife mold at all. Thankfully, his preaching turned into blah blah blah and I tuned it out. The only thing I remember is that umbrella of protection - which I didn’t fit under either! I am still a Christian, but am so glad I didn’t fall into their nets!

[@luannnelson547]

Do you remember that nutty “have you checked his teeth” story?

[@JohnnyTong215]

JB is a father that just thinks for himself than others!!!! Jill is doing the right thing and avoiding him!!!

[@sheilabradley2892]

I'm glad I'm an Irish Catholic. One year at Christmas Eve mass, the lovely priest (who happened to be Polish) told us to go home and open a nice bottle of wine. 😊 I'm a tee totaler, if I'm being honest, but I'm glad i was raised to make my own choices with the free will God gave me.

[@michiganscythian2445]

I’m Polish Catholic and we had an Irish priest. He always made sure Mass was done in time for football 🏈🍺

[@rachellefebres4183]

My parish events always have boyb 😂

[@fay8687]

Polish people are awesome

[@debbiebasche5337]

It was Bourbon at Saint Téresa's..

[@jaemonmcleod7840]

That’s awesome, I’ve been blessed to know, and raise a glass, with a few amazing priests as well.

[@kimandrews9035]

How can Jim Bob and Michelle still have minor children in their care? I am a HUGE fan of Jill’s she’s an absolute inspiration to people who have grown up in a similar sick way. She’s beautiful on the inside and out!

[@kenyonbissett3512]

Why? Because people talk about in a child’s best interest but too many times it’s the parents best interest, like blanket training.

[@loosilu]

Because they are friends with the Huckabee familiy, therefore state child protective services can't touch them.

[@fionamacinnes]

Did not know that being happily married, bringing up a family, studying; passing the bar in law and becoming a lawyer and relocating with you're family for that lawyer position ends up to be an alcoholic the hole time.😂😂🤣 Really incredible. 😂 Wheres Josh Jim B ? Derick is more educated than the hole family put together .

[@arbonneladyTN]

Exactly! JB really didn’t want them to get married in the end, even though JB set it all in motion 🤯

[@heatherjane244]

The irony of it all is JB ‘set up’ Jill and Derek

[@romaolberding7288]

Isn't it great!😂

[@kristinahuckabee9737]

I know. It tickles me every time I think of Jim Bob regretting that decision. His blood pressure must go up every time one, or both of them speak out.

[@reesesanders9168]

It's a delicious irony 😂

[@DeeBullock1836]

Lol!!! Talk about God working in mysterious ways!!!🙏🏻🙏🏻😆😆❤️❤️ I’m definitely on Team Jill & Derick!!! These two are definitely finding themselves as who God made them to be!!! God is happy they are seeking His Truth, and not man’s!!!

[@rbbabyblues]

He HAD to have control over who his daughters married. You know he regrets this decision daily 😂

[@arlenebosse-mcdermott683]

I wasn't expecting her talk about corporal punishment. I'm really glad to see that she has.

[@Jenn-wg9li]

Happy for Jill to learn about the outside world!

[@sharihazlett3774]

I am proud of her for speaking up. Good job Jill and Derrick. This is not alcoholism. Let's send you to rehab?? What a joke. I bet they look up what will be covered and claim that diagnosis instead

[@bubblesbubbly8525]

Hmm.... If you've heard from previous interviews that they almost filed a protective order against her dad, because he kept contacting her individually to the point of harassment.... I'm inclined to think he wanted Derrick away from Jill for a time so he could wriggle back into her psyche.

[@brendacluney2052]

I would think this church rehab where her dad wanted Derrick to go would not accept any funding. I grew up in this type of church. I even attended college at one of these places that supported all this. Over the years I have realized some of the issues in this teaching and realized it was cult teaching. But these places never accepted any insurance payments even for seeing the Dr at the on campus clinic or being in the infirmary if we were sick. The Drs were from within the church affiliated with the school so all that was included in your room and board and nothing extra was charged. Drs volunteered services to the college. They did not even accept any Government money for college students. We had to fight if our parents could not pay to find ways to get our bills paid to stay in school and stay on campus. I was one of those who had to fight to find help every month. We as women were not allowed to work off campus so we had zero way to make money to stay. My church paid the majority of my tuition and the school had jobs for some of us on campus or at the church that paid our room and board. By the way, I have realized over the 41 years since I left the school this teaching was all messed up and learned that living for God is different from what I was taught!! I still believe in God and have different views of what that entails.

[@kimberly3131]

It's wonderful to see how Jill has grown emotionally. She has learned to speak up for herself and her convictions. I'm so glad that she married Derrick. She has really blossomed since. He seems to have encouraged and nurtured her into finding her own voice and to stop and reexamine the lifestyle she was raised in. She has learned to trust her own discernment. You can see it in her confidence and whole demeanor. She actually glows with it. He doesn't talk over her or speak for her or even prompt her. I'm happy for both of them.

[@tracyu5756]

If memory serves right, I believe blanket training is worst than that. Michelle would talk about the toddlers/little ones choose a toy and sit on the blanket. Then when they reached for the toy just off the blanket, Michele would wack them and gently scold them for disobeying and attempting to leave the blanket. It’s about breaking the will of a child. It’s very confusing for a little one. Sad.

[@RoyalDuggars]

I'm pleased that Jill is getting an "education" outside of Gothard. I don't mean community collage or anything--just seeing the world differently now. I imagine, from the looks of it, a few Bates kids are too. Poor Jana--I feel for her.

[@charlieverto-ey2bp]

Having a beer or a glass of wine now and then does not make you an alcoholic. Welcome to the real world. So proud of you both. Your family raise you wrong not in the real world. Bravo !!👏🏼👏🏼

[@kenyonbissett3512]

Having grown up with an alcoholic father he has an unhealthy relationship with alcohol. Not unusual.

[@justd4377]

Blanket training seems mean spirited. You are waiting for the baby to make a mistake so that you can hit them?

[@DrofJustice]

You are not just waiting, you are making them reach for their favorite toy so that you can whack them!! It is ridiculous!

[@sherrynusbaum5913]

I'm not a psychologist, but how confusing for a child, especially a baby. Traumatic!

[@christinegivens9048]

Cruel.

[@janicemichaloski5292]

It seems abusive to me

[@justd4377]

@@DrofJustice How is the baby supposed to understand why you set them up, sounds like a great way to create insecurity.

[@comemeru1]

My mother confided in me one time that she witnessed her sister-in-law do blanket training with her infant/toddler daughter (this would have been in the early 1950s,) and Mom was surprised and horrified. So blanket training has been around longer than you might think.

[@jmadden7270]

Centuries. But from necessity with 1 room houses, hot stoves, fireplaces, livestock, etc. Now you can pick up a used playpen for $20 instead. And I know they've been out for 60 years because I had one.

[@ruthfoss8463]

I had a close family member that was at RU for a few months. It was an awful place! Even the leaders stole money and other “things”. There was no ac! AC was used only in the offices! The men acted like heathens! It was shocking! The person I know that went there for a short time had to work in the laundry room, no ac. He wound up in the hospital with pneumonia! I can’t say it enough! It was terrible!!

[@marygraham6966]

If Jill and some of the other older girls were raising their young siblings, then it's logical to assume Michelle had THEM using blanket training. I bet that's what Jill isn't saying, and I don't blame her. It wasn't her fault. As for Derick needing "rehab", if JimBob could have engineered such a thing it would have separated Derick from Jill and maybe left her vulnerable to more pressure from JB. Jill herself says that Derick is a lot of the reason she began to rethink her parent's teachings, so perhaps JB thought it was worth a try to come between them and reclaim her for the cult...and the show....and the lifetime obligations.

[@Ruthiroo23]

Michelle has stated that she cares for the babies until they are done nursing and that she nursed for around a year.

[@marygraham6966]

@@Ruthiroo23 Which makes the blanket trainees about a year old when the older sisters took over. But blanket training doesn't necessarily stop at a year. Depending on the child, it can go to age 3 or even more, according to the info on it. I just think if Michelle wasn't quite satisfied with a baby's behavior by the time it was weaned, she expected the "buddy" to carry on with the blanket training. Just conjecture, though.

[@MatildeVallespinCasas]

JimBob has no capacity whatsoever to send Derick or anyone to rehab. He's an adult and rehab centres, even religious ones, don't risk getting their licences revoked for trying to force an adult who has no booze problems get there because he does what many functional adults do in their meal. It was some kind of, say, Batman gambit attempt to keep on testing how much influence he still got "recommending" it but inside his circle. Once he failed he actually wanted it to never get out there at all costs. Even before Josh, ILBP was on thin ice and many started to hide the most wacko things for fear of losing even more people on the fence

[@sherryhamlin2068]

I have a GREAT idea! Why doesn’t JB admit HIMSELF into a rehab facility where they can teach him that a woman being “ joyfully available 24x7” is a CROCK OF CRAP!!!!😉😉😉

[@SkunkyLorrie]

Oh poor Jana 😩

[@sarahshields23]

I’m so happy for Jill and Derrick. Jim Bob and Michelle should love her unconditionally. That’s their amazing beautiful daughter Jill! She’s a bright light in the world and they should be proud! Well we’re proud of you Jill, you found your voice!🙏❤️

[@tammykelsey7877]

Jim Bob needs treatment!!!! 😂

[@elizabethbesco4758]

JB is full on...., JB made bank on all his kids without swtting up trust funds for each of the kuds for their education and protection. Think about all the money Josh and his legal issues have caused. Gosh Jill and Derrick are amazing!

[@cheryleaston6820]

Blanket training is cruelty towards any baby. This, and any other parent, whose family who practice this type of cruelty are cruel people and should have all these kids removed from the home. And for Amazon to continue to sell this book is disgusting. Also the only two adults that need treatment, psychological that, is Jimbob, Michelle and Josh, so far. Probably more of the young men in this family as well.

[@barb-jm7990]

Wow! What a great rehab! It sure did work for Josh, didn't it?! That is ridiculous that "Howdy Dowdy JB" thought Derrick needed rehab. And, I believe Jana is probably single today due to having been SA by Gothard. I also believe that Jessa is probably doing blanket training, because she has always been the mean one.

[@sheliadrennan653]

I hope shes not hurting her children. Shes almost a mother now to 5.i wanted more children but i knew i could barely feed 1 ..poor kids

[@jenniferklein3138]

I am really happy that things continue to come out through Josh being in prison. Through Jill's Book. Through Jinger's Book. Through anyone else who will speak out.

[@Aluapay]

No rehab works for ANYONE if there is no remorse and they dont think theyve done anything wrong.

[@elizabethwarman9028]

Very true, rehab comes when the person themselves realizes they need rehab.

[@hockeygirl8506]

❤❤❤❤ Jill & Derick! Glad to see them doing well.

[@patriciakeagan9410]

the father is not a father at all. anyone who puts everyone else down to boost his own ego is not a proper human being. what he preaches is not a religion.

[@maidmariondesign5097]

I disagree with your sentence :"what he preaches is not a religion."- that is exactly what this is; religion... Not spirituality, not Biblical, only authoratative religion, obeying, ruling... shaming...none of that is taught by the Holy Spirit or Jesus....

[@katiehansen2182]

So glad that Jill and Derick are able to stand on their own and think and do what is right for themselves and their family. I am sure it is hard to go against such a powerful force (her parents) but it is the right thing. I hope that her siblings and even her parents will wake up and realize that some day.

[@chincaglieria]

I bet JB is kicking himself himself because he was the one who took Jill half way around the world to meet with Derrick! I vividly remember that scene on the show. Well JB, get to kicking!🦵😂 I’m so impressed with this young couple! Keep moving forward Mr and Mrs Dillard! We are all cheering you on! 👏

[@user-ry1br1zd1l]

It's sad to know that there are Christian zealots still practicing such arcane "Ideals". I'm very proud of Jill for speaking out and I salute her courage and transparency. I have been around true alcoholics for many years and believe me, Derick does NOT fit the bill just because he had 2 beers! These parents should stay out of the lives of their children unless they are specifically asked for advice or assistance! Their audacity is truly disrespectful and horribly intrusive. After the age of 18, parents should take a large step back and cut the apron strings to their children because their job is done. Being there for their children in times of tragedy means that they are supportive and loving but it does not give them the right to run rough shod over them. Being a parent is difficult. It is not easy to release the strings of attachment to their children. It requires wisdom, courage, and strength to accept that you are no longer the overseer of your children because they have to test their own strengths. The parent is without authority when the children reach maturity; and are no longer responsible for their mental, emotional and spiritual health and values. Only when asked should parents advise and council their children.

[@StargazerMom66]

So good old dad pimped his daughter to Gothard😮. So happy for Jill busting free

[@carleennewman7191]

Josh is jbs mini me. Thank God Jill got away from this mess.

[@levim9475]

Enjoying drinks is not a sin. Avoid getting drunk because that can lead to bad things. Also what does Jim Bob and Michelle expect their kids to do after they die? They won’t be ready to live in the world without their parents. The fact that they don’t give them education and necessary experience to live in the world shows they don’t love their kids.

[@njsmkmmsthatsit3518]

Blanket training is the first step in making passive and compliant victims. Not one bit surprised Gothard encouraged it.

[@janicewest3634]

I remember the training shot in Happy People when the smallest girl was in the bathroom with her mom. She was scared to death and Polly parroted the Bible verses so fast so she would not get hit with the rod. It makes me cry every time I think about it. Cruel!

[@gottabme]

Did you see little Josie's hands in that video? *Bright* red! I felt so sorry for her.

[@MNP208]

How do you know the context of that video?

[@margaritasoto3023]

How can they know it had rum? Pina Colada can be drunk with or without rum.

[@romaolberding7288]

I'm sure to Jim Bob that even pretending to have a cocktail is Satanic!

[@Bildgesmythe]

Destroying a child is accepted but a shot of rum is Satanic. Yuck

[@deedee_31]

well tht place sure as shyt ddnt work cuz he still ddnt keep his creep hands to himself

[@5thanddes]

Jill is getting better and better with each interview, but she definitely still holds back. I get it though. She has been taught her entire life that the way she grew up was the only way and all outside influences were sinful. She has seen the light, if you will, not everyone who doesn't think like you is bad or sinful. In fact, in terms of IBLP it's more like the people that do think like you are more sinful and horrible. I'm just throwing it out there but I think we could see another book that will reveal a whole bunch more.

[@rncook2471]

Jinger holds back more than Jill

[@frederikacreates]

I think Jill is choosing her words wisely and trying to hold some class while beeing as open and honost as possible. So I get it.

[@janethayes-anderson2683]

I wonder what happened to Jana physically.

[@Janine_C]

What do you mean. I haven’t seen a picture of her in a long time

[@emirom2]

I think now we might know why Jana has chosen not to get married…she was a “Gothard Girl.”

[@2manybooks2littletime25]

I wondered the same. 😢

[@dallasfarms1907]

​@@emirom2I wish she would just leave and take the kids with her

[@SaltyLittleNana]

I have a really awful SIL whose son has just been arrested for CSA (she’s awful for other reasons, not that). She insists-before anyone said a word-that all sins are equal in the eyes of God, making the case for forgiveness and no further punishment for her son, etc, etc. I wonder if they consider drinking a beer equivalent to Josh’s transgressions. It certainly seems like my SIL believes this to her core.

[@jennifersavoy847]

I wouldn't be surprised. I remember (not IBLP but a very conservative, evangelical IBLP adjacent) someone teaching that people see sins like the skyline of a city, with all the buildings different heights (different degrees of sin) but God sees them as if looking down from above (can't tell the heights/degrees) I think that is pretty oversimplified theology and makes it seem (like you pointed out) that relatively harmless "sins" (if you can even call drinking a beer a sin) are no less awful than horrible and disgusting sins. I have a really hard time believing that God would be anywhere near as upset about someone drinking a beer as God would be about someone harming a child.

[@michellegeorges8560]

I would tell your sister not to count on all sins being equal!

[@gg_nugu]

​@@jennifersavoy847That's genuinely enraging and serves absolutely no practical use other than to pre-emptively downplay evil behavior. I can't imagine growing up hearing bullshit like that.

[@powderandpaint14]

Sins may be, but crimes in the eyes of the law and the public certainly are not.

[@jennifersavoy847]

@@gg_nugu Yeah... its pretty horrible theology and should be rejected as such!!!

[@tinatieken8840]

If Michelle couldn’t manage her kids, why did she keep spitting them out? That ‘religion’ they were brought up in was evil.

[@rebeccamesser2850]

Because the aspirin kept melting!

[@MatildeVallespinCasas]

She was not brought up and that religion and her family didn't bring her up for being that matron we saw in the series. And that's why she invented the buddy system. She was not meant to be a mother to so many kids and it shows

[@TheTweetybird1122]

Breaks my heart for Jana. Jim Bob should be ashamed

[@beccamclean8165]

Just to throw it out there. Most insurances don’t cover rehab. When I went back in 2013 (alcoholism) I had to pay out of pocket. So I would assume the billing portion wouldn’t be much different than other more respectable facilities.

[@3kjewel]

we can see how well Josh's "rehab" went ... give me a break lmao.

[@Paula-wl2gt]

Jim Bob needs to go to treatment. He needs to learn how to be a dad.

[@diannamacdonald3716]

I wonder if Jim Bob ever reflects on the fact that he introduced Jill and Derick? I wonder if it was done for purposes of adding content to the show at the time? Whatever the purpose was, it sure backfired on JB when Jill and Derick declared their independence!

[@miminana-hd6nf]

I knew Jill did not blanket train, she denounced it when Israel was a baby. I think I had seen Jessa blanket training her first and getting called out for it and she stopped. I don't think Joy has blanket trained, her kids are pretty active. Can't see Jinger blanket training either. Maybe some of the boys wives have blanket trained since they are more ingrained in the fold.

[@carolbarlow8896]

The assumption that Jessa blanket trained was based on one photo of a blanket on the floor near a rocking chair in Ben and Jessa’s home. I like KJ but that was a leap. I don’t think Jessa ever lured her children off the blanket and punished them. Plus, Ben was never in the IBLP so not part of this squirreliness.

[@vickytaylor9155]

Bonnie Hollien in one of early videos also talks about her blanket training her kids.

[@msvinceymontanarello4514]

I can type out a bunch of fancy words but I've only got one thing to say. Those people are crazy. The parents should be put in jail. There are probably a dozen crimes. Both civil and criminal.

[@kimberly3131]

Derrick could work in rehab. He certainly has helped Jill release herself from the JimBob cult and open her eyes.

[@annirose]

Thank you Katie!!!!!

[@brendahautaluoma624]

I listened to the podcast last night. It's obvious to me that Jill and Derick don't shy away from very direct questions. They seem more and more relaxed and open each time we hear them being interviewed and I wouldn't be surprised if there's more info to come. Even Derick was surprised that Jill's dad had asked her to watch Dericks Vlog b4 they'd started dating and Derick wasn't even aware! So I believe as they go along we'll hear more and more. Jinger did that a bit but I feel J & D will keep getting more and more memories coming up. I site would like to know tho who WASNT on board with them calling out JB and Michelle? And a looming question in my mind....WHO was the babysitter and why is she not going after Josh with charges???

[@gottabme]

The statute of limitations probably ran out, and if the sitter was IBLP, which is likely, she was probably blamed for "defrauding" him. In their circle, it seems to be a shameful thing to be SA'd.

[@kimcentofanti2694]

Don't forget..when blanket training, they put a toy just off the blanket and then coax them off the blanket so they can than punish. Makes my head explode!

[@Ely-jx5iy]

There is a book called "People of the Lie" by M. Scott Peck which deals with the issue of sickness vs sin. It's eye opening! These twisted people choose to follow teachings to systematically ab-se babies and children. Any adult that overrides their conscience to hurt innocent children is evil. It's interesting that the most harm is often done in the name of religion.

[@midKnight_Muse]

Jimbob needs Rehab more than Jill & Derick. But, OK Jimbob, into control much?? Also This- "… If you like piña coladas And gettin' caught in the rain If you're not into yoga If you have half a brain If you like makin' love at midnight In the dunes on the cape"... Nothing wrong with any of it, drink the coldas!!

[@sarcasticbimbo1420]

That song has such a sweet guitar lick in it. I love that song.

[@Callmethebreeze902]

He had a beer? Omgosh what a raging alcoholic lol. Jim Bob is too much.

[@SH-yo6em]

I hope Jana goes free already!!😢

[@jamiemcguire5585]

I listened to Jill's book right away on Audible and loved it! JB does not surprise me at all. Ya know how narcissistic men like to project their bad behavior onto others? Well JB needs some intensive therapy of his own! Everything JB does and has done just makes me mad! I wonder what Michelle would say and do if she was no longer under JB's thumb... I bet she was his first victim. How sad.😢

[@katherinebrumley7794]

It reminds me of some of my more fundamental friends who question my salvation because i have an occasional drink. My more mature friends accept it but dont drink themselves and may request that we at at restaurants that do not serve alcohol.

[@lauragray4052]

Looking back how did Derick ever pass JB tests for being worthy for his daughter? I really enjoyed watching the episodes when Jill and Derick first met halfway around the world in Nepal. Now I laugh that JB actually allowed it and wonder how much he regrets it’s. Lol 😂

[@harmoniousdesign7785]

I don’t care what anyone says.. I wholeheartedly believe Jana was a long time victim of Josh. I also believe his behavior carried on with his other sisters while they were much older too.

[@elizabethwarman9028]

I believe Jana was also a victim of Bill Gothard.

[@craigroberson8757]

The thought my FIL calling me and offering to send me to Gothard's version of Rehab (bootcamp) for a beer is LMAO hysterical. 🤣 😂😂😂

[@MatildeVallespinCasas]

He was trying to bluff to test his hold on them, to see how much the indoctrination of being the patriarch was still present in them. But now that the bluff was over, the last thing he wants it's the world to know that he wants to send to rehab two adults for doing what functional adults around the world do

[@MatildeVallespinCasas]

Katie was actually laughing when she told the bit

[@Diana-bn1qs]

No wonder these kids are like robots. “Blanket Training” is abusive. These people are sick.

[@amypeterson4848]

My one burning question (and maybe it was covered somewhere at some point but I haven’t seen it over the years)… is why does Jim Bob allow his kids to marry people from outside the IBLP? That just blows my mind. He’s so strict about “outside influences” and all that garbage yet he lets his kids marry outside of their IBLP beliefs.

[@carieruiz2285]

I think that he’s so arrogant that he thinks that he will be able to convert those “outsiders” to IBLP.

[@hollywoodamanda]

That's a very good question that I've wondered myself.. but I agree with the comment above. That makes so much sense as far as jimboob is concerned

[@CathRas95]

He had those weddings to make money on TV

[@MatildeVallespinCasas]

ILBP has not enough members to match with their kids. He hopes they are conservative enough not to put him in a difficult position. He can't even control his DIls for much. With the exception of Anna, all they work full time, many don't homeschool and are mainline Christians

[@MNP208]

He wants his “truth” to be spread throughout the world.

[@christinegivens9048]

Go Jill. No reason in the world you can’t have a drink if you want one!

[@cathymiller4479]

I was raised Baptist and we for sure couldn't even think about having alcohol! So glad i have learned so much since then!

[@ladybuggs11]

Same with Pentecostal.

[@sharonbrown6595]

@@ladybuggs11yep. And my moms famous saying was to me pointing her finger “you r going to hell” I finally gave up trying to please her and came to the conclusion no matter what I do I am going to hell and have been happier since. Oh also moving as far away as I could from her and her beliefs.

[@janicerogers5781]

I'm a lifelong Baptist and I drink

[@cathymiller4479]

@@janicerogers5781 yes I know a lot of Baptists that drink but they don't talk about it lol.

[@aldoushuxleysghost]

I'm a fundamental Baptist as well. The Bible doesn't teach that drinking is a sin; drunkenness is. How much alcohol one consumes is between that person and God. It's not the same for everyone. Whereas the Lord had convicted my wife to be a tee totaler who avoids any amount of alcohol, I didn't get that same conviction. I may have a beer or a glass of wine on occasion, but never will I dull my senses with alcohol

[@werethewilsons]

Ive missed you qnd your Duggar videos, Katie! Hope you're well ❤

[@christinegivens9048]

Jill needs to go to university. It’s not too late!

[@cherisabroadwater3619]

Oh, poor Janna!

[@altawarren7334]

Lol, Derrick in rehab! The only one who needs a reality check is JB.

[@MarieAntoinetteandherlittlesis]

Faith-based Rehabs and Camps get a HUGE side-eye from me. It sounds just… miserable. Idk why. Almost as bad as blanket training. How old are these children when they’re being hit?

[@donnaplapp5211]

Jill is a wonderful person. Your right I don't know her. But I love how honest she is. She doesn't brown nose anything. 🎉

[@Contessa6363]

My mother's father was an alcoholic. She went completely the other way. If she saw you with a drink she would think the same thing.

[@nancyc9543]

Jim Bob should have taught his son to stay in his own room and not touch his SISTERS

[@barbarabuttler7647]

If you like Pina Coladas,, then maybe rehab's for you If you like shots of tequila, then you need it too. 🎶😆🤣

[@sarcasticbimbo1420]

Oh god, that's genius. LOL

[@barbarabuttler7647]

@@sarcasticbimbo1420 Thank you !😅😂🤣

[@marshahollings]

Blanket Training is effed up!

[@veronicabadanjak4492]

If any of the “Duggar Moms” still blanket train, I think it’s likely some of the boys wives. I can mostly see Kendra, Lauren, and maybe Jed’s wife still using that system. If any of the girls did end up blanket training I think it was most likely Jessa Blessa with the boys, but I can see her “waking up” and not doing it to her girls.

[@loriroberts6236]

I read a while ago that Jessa practices the blanket method. Jessa reminds me of her dad.

[@shay8369]

My parents were tee totaled for religious belief. The first time we openly had wine at Christmas EVE dinner at our home. I was told when our 21 year old son was really “throwing it back”. He had a total number of 2 glasses of wine that night. My Mom’s blood pressure went up and they had to go home before dinner was over! Lots of drama!!

[@vickyCA1643]

Wow! I’d say wrong priorities and focus on what is important.

[@cathyspiller7154]

Because the rehab worked so well for Josh! I think maybe for Josh a little electric convulsive therapy should have been in order. Then maybe a little more! I have several more thoughts about Josh. Not so much Derik.

[@AnastaciaInCleveland]

Electro-convulsive therapy (ECT) won't cure what Josh has going on. ECT is not punitive but rather a legitimate therapy for major depressive disorder.

[@rebeccamesser2850]

The kids don't/ won't/ can't move out because they have NO social skills or education! Being home schooled and not being able to leave the compound is emotionally stifling! Imagine being a 20 someone and having to still hold the hand of a 10 year old?

[@amyprince600]

Derrick had a couple of beers with a meal. That's completely different from getting drunk and sloppy. They were being responsible adults. Something Jim Bob wouldn't know anything about. It's also okay for Jill to enjoy a cocktail or two. Get a grip, Jim Bob. SHEESH!

[@missjessgd]

The whole Jana going to headquarters and being around Bill whater his names is, for months!, Doesn't sit well with me. I hope nothing bad has happened to her. Reminds me of "The Darkness within La Luz Del Mundo" on Netflix. 😢😪💔

[@brookespencer6212]

How was it legal for that woman to beat her babies/toddlers with a rod these days?

[@brookespencer6212]

When I was little it was a different story but she publicized it herself

[@ceciliacalvin263]

If JB is calling Derrick an alcoholic, what does he call Jesus?

[@merricat3025]

Communist

[@mstaz1112]

My SIL who is a fundamentalist baptist said same to me when I’ve had a beer at family events but never to the men. We have an uncle who drinks heavily all the time and not a word to him but she will lecture me every time.

[@BevMargaret]

I loved her book. Actually I think she could read other people's audio books because she has a wonderfully calming voice. The idea that JB is aware that his older girls are parentified but doesn't see it as wrong.....wow

[@ladyblue2fl]

Hes so concerned about them drinking, but not the Monster he created. Drinking is so much worse than what Josh did. Here's a thought let's send him to rehab to teach him how to take care of his children And keeping them safe. Jim Bo is such a nutcase and as dangerous as his prize son

[@padfootdoggy]

Glad Jill got more open... but sad to hear what I was worried. That Jana was in headquarters so much. =( I hope Jana gets the help she likely needs.

[@rohiniguiland4873]

If two beers makes you an alcoholic, then those shots I did last Sunday what does that make me? LOL

[@carolbullard7956]

A lush LoL 🤣