Jill Valentine | Wasted Plotential

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The4thSnake

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This was scripted as an RE6 Chris episode back in January, but I got sidetracked by MK and other subjects, and I then realised it was really more about Jill and needed some rewriting, so it took even longer to get out.
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@TheSphereHunter
@TheSphereHunter 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. Also, I like your story. Jill is my favorite character and I hope she comes back for RE8 or revelations3.
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 5 жыл бұрын
Whoa, didn't expect to see you around here. Thanks, this really means a lot. I think we can at least expect a 3make using RE2make's assets by 2021 or so.
@giovannigiovanni.7220
@giovannigiovanni.7220 5 жыл бұрын
Or RE CGI 4.
@darryltorres7302
@darryltorres7302 5 жыл бұрын
I hope anyone comes back besides chris and leon. They have so much characters that they don't use like rebecca or billy, hell even the resident evil outbreak characters.
@giovannigiovanni.7220
@giovannigiovanni.7220 5 жыл бұрын
@@darryltorres7302 Agreed.
@wk3818
@wk3818 5 жыл бұрын
@@darryltorres7302 I'd like to see Billy come back also. But he would have an fake identity because Rebecca Chambers reported Lt. Billy Cohen dead.
@izakireemsi2783
@izakireemsi2783 4 жыл бұрын
Leon: Simp lord Jill: PTSD lady Claire: WHeRe's mY bRoTHeR? Chris: *MR.WORLDWIDE*
@Darkyan97
@Darkyan97 4 жыл бұрын
Chris just wants to preserve the Redfield lineage. And to punch boulders. LOTS of boulders.
@mohammadhussien5223
@mohammadhussien5223 4 жыл бұрын
@@Darkyan97 i think he might Convince Ethan now that he Murdered his wife in cold blood xD
@mrgrapes8215
@mrgrapes8215 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Chris would be the ptsd one
@raddudeguy
@raddudeguy 3 жыл бұрын
Chris " make claire a canoli or I'll fill you with holies" redfield
@juniorsigala5028
@juniorsigala5028 3 жыл бұрын
@@Darkyan97 I mean if there is only 2 specimens who arnt getting any younger that have genes that will allow the person 2 punch boalders easily then hell I would try to continue it as well however chris is very narrow minded and only sees his sis getting some D specifically from leon
@steveno6396
@steveno6396 5 жыл бұрын
Claire and Jill, 2 massive fan favourites....andddddd capcom basically did nothing with them. It's all about Leon and Chris
@steveno6396
@steveno6396 5 жыл бұрын
​@WillFanofMany and how long was it since Claire had a new story in the series? Nothing since CV. They have only ever redone her RE2 and CV appearances.
@steveno6396
@steveno6396 5 жыл бұрын
@WillFanofMany so that makes the 10 years of no new game no longer matter because she got 1 new spin off whilst the guys got 2 games each within 5 years. but as you said. revelations 2 a few years ago....cool.
@atomic747
@atomic747 5 жыл бұрын
@WillFanofMany what part do you not understand steven is trying to say? he is basically saying chris and leon gets to be in every new entry pretty much while claire and jill may get lucky to atleast be one and then never used again like how they been using chris and leon.
@lacsoncruz7973
@lacsoncruz7973 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah male Characters are boring now!!!
@theuncommonangel8032
@theuncommonangel8032 5 жыл бұрын
Claire always in a 2
@iscottista1950
@iscottista1950 5 жыл бұрын
She was almost a Jill Sandwich.
@kacchank8696
@kacchank8696 5 жыл бұрын
Well done....
@KiwiButterBees
@KiwiButterBees 5 жыл бұрын
Renegade Scottista *slow clap*
@horrorvictim
@horrorvictim 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah... now she's just a... ...half-sandwich.
@nobody2021
@nobody2021 5 жыл бұрын
In soviet Russia, Jill was almost a you sandwich
@TheTeknicalMixes
@TheTeknicalMixes 5 жыл бұрын
"Jeez, does Barry tell everyone that story?"
@raidengodfang
@raidengodfang 5 жыл бұрын
Let's be real here. Wesker simply wanted a female version of himself. The only thing Battle-Suit Jill missed was a pair of shades. I cannot be swayed.
@freddycrewger
@freddycrewger 5 жыл бұрын
Facts bro
@conrad6136
@conrad6136 5 жыл бұрын
it would kinda make sense that Wesker would want a partner for himself in the new world order. perhaps he saw Jill as a worthy companion for him.
@vladtepes2667
@vladtepes2667 5 жыл бұрын
I could argue against yoyr logic but itvis to sound i agree
@rogue8533
@rogue8533 5 жыл бұрын
@@conrad6136 Instead of Excella
@CB0Otz
@CB0Otz 5 жыл бұрын
Tbh I would've liked catsuit Jill way more if she did wear shades.
@tigga2300
@tigga2300 5 жыл бұрын
RE6 needed Claire and Jill. That would've been dope to have had Chris, Leon, Jill, Claire, Sherry and Ada in the same game with their stories crossing over one another time after time as each protagonist's story progressed.
@PedroLucas-mg5je
@PedroLucas-mg5je 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Barry, Rebecca, Billy, Carlos, Ark Thompson and the children he adopted and Moira and Polly!
@tigga2300
@tigga2300 2 жыл бұрын
@@PedroLucas-mg5je Maybe Barry because he's in the BSAA, and Rebecca because she works on creating different types of Vaccines, but those other characters didn't need to be in this game. They were just one timers.
@PedroLucas-mg5je
@PedroLucas-mg5je Жыл бұрын
@@tigga2300 Billy helped Rebecca from the majority of RE 0(he could've had passed through a trial and being declared innocent off-screen on the time gap between Code Veronica and Umbrella Chronicles), Carlos saved Jill from her T-Virus infection on RE 3(It would've been incredible to have an Revelations 3 focused on Jill and Carlos trying to take down Nicolai), Ark Thompson is Leon's best friend and he would've offered himself to be Leon's partner on his agent duties a lá Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson(It would've been super cool if Ark and Carlos were in the Operation Javier with Leon and Krauser) and I always thought of the idea of Jake, Sherry, Piers, Barry's daughters, the pair of kids Ark adopted at the end of RE Survivor and maybe even Valenfield's children becoming the new protagonists of the franchise if RE 5 and 6 finished the OG characters' storylines!
@neurotichigh-femmelizard
@neurotichigh-femmelizard 4 жыл бұрын
11:01 "RE7 is right when it says that Chris is not a hero, but only because he isn't joined by those who make him one." That gave me chills.
@StrikeAxl
@StrikeAxl 4 жыл бұрын
Yo, you're the most recent comment I found. Do you know which game the scene where Jill and Chris are pointing guns at each other is? Where the guy is sitting down and Jill is pointing at him too
@neurotichigh-femmelizard
@neurotichigh-femmelizard 4 жыл бұрын
@@StrikeAxl If you leave me a time stamp, I'd be happy to help! They've been in RE1, RE Revelations, and RE5 together. That's the info I can give without being able to find the clip you mention. :)
@StrikeAxl
@StrikeAxl 4 жыл бұрын
@@neurotichigh-femmelizard hey thank you! It's at minute 10:30
@DarrenHoussein
@DarrenHoussein 4 жыл бұрын
@@StrikeAxl That is Revelations 1 but that aint really Chris in the clip although he is in the game... oops
@StrikeAxl
@StrikeAxl 4 жыл бұрын
@@DarrenHoussein I see. Thank you, mate!
@felman87
@felman87 5 жыл бұрын
Practically the entire series is a wasted plotential. You can tell that they've been making things up as it goes along. A shame considering things started pretty interesting.
@jopdancing7320
@jopdancing7320 5 жыл бұрын
While not a good excuse the RE series was always gameplay first and story last in fact the first RE didn't have a story when it was being made only set up the story was add later and in the case of RE4 doesn't even have a script/scenario writer it was cut from the game seriously look it up could've they improve the story definitely but this serious story lore and characters was mess before RE5 RE6.
@DJWeapon8
@DJWeapon8 5 жыл бұрын
@@jopdancing7320 This was pretty evident by the fact that a special task force team from a well funded police precinct in a thriving pharmaceutics industry focused city *can't aim for shit or perform wooden door breaching.*
@jopdancing7320
@jopdancing7320 5 жыл бұрын
@@DJWeapon8 ikr
@DJWeapon8
@DJWeapon8 5 жыл бұрын
@@jopdancing7320 As much as the characters from RE became memorable to me, they did not work well with its theme and setting. Their backgrounds completely contradict both gameplay and story elements. As I said above. "a special task force team from a well funded police precinct in a thriving pharmaceutics industry focused city can't aim for shit or perform wooden door breaching." Would've been much better if the entire S.T.A.R.S. Alpha team was replaced by two individuals replacing Chris and Jill. A reporter and a rookie private investigator would've worked better for both story and gameplay. Wesker can be a full on scientist instead of Alpha team leader. Similar to how the Outbreak and 7 characters. They are pretty much average people trying to survive. Not S.W.A.T. operators.
@UnifiedEntity
@UnifiedEntity 5 жыл бұрын
@@DJWeapon8 Nah. What sets RE apart from other horror or survival horror is that these characters embody survival horror and learn from the crap that happens. Are they dialed up a little too much to near super human shit? Yeah, I'd say so.
@marcelroberge5011
@marcelroberge5011 5 жыл бұрын
They owe Jill a full game for sure. And that’s on top of the rethreemake.
@Lolz172
@Lolz172 4 жыл бұрын
If and when they make her own game, I HOPE TO GOD CAPCOM GETS THE MODEL RIGHT. I'm looking at you RE3 Remake Jill. :|
@miggy_lan
@miggy_lan 4 жыл бұрын
re3make was garbage sadly
@bloovboi4260
@bloovboi4260 4 жыл бұрын
Capcom: Ur wish has been granted
@tranquility7826
@tranquility7826 4 жыл бұрын
md lanzanas re3 was awesome and I really enjoyed it a lot it was just to short
@knight8513
@knight8513 4 жыл бұрын
@@miggy_lan it wasn't garbage. did you acutally play the game? Sure it was short but it was so fucking enjoyable
@notproductiveproductions3504
@notproductiveproductions3504 5 жыл бұрын
And somehow Ethan, a new character, had a complete arc in one night
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 5 жыл бұрын
He did. Ethan's great.
@atomic747
@atomic747 5 жыл бұрын
I love his lack of not giving a fuck as monsters come at him.
@iziahwilliams9895
@iziahwilliams9895 5 жыл бұрын
Pantsalonis he lives in the RE world I’m sure he has heard about or seen something about any of the events in one game or another I think B.O.W are a normal part of this world so I understand the not freaking to much
@atomic747
@atomic747 5 жыл бұрын
@@iziahwilliams9895 well it may be normal now.but it still shouldve got a reaction since he had to deal with them
@mrmoviemanic1
@mrmoviemanic1 5 жыл бұрын
Ethan is literally Ash from the Evil Dead.
@Muffinpurplegurk
@Muffinpurplegurk 5 жыл бұрын
Jill is the most wasted character in the entire series.
@darryltorres7302
@darryltorres7302 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, HUNK even to this day is a complete mystery. I was hooked by his nickname mr. death. Come on, to be called that is so badass but they didn't do much with him.
@Lianspain
@Lianspain 5 жыл бұрын
I would say, that Claire potential was wasted too
@StygianZinogrex
@StygianZinogrex 5 жыл бұрын
you guys forgot Billy Coen or Carlos Oliveira
@jin-hyepark4252
@jin-hyepark4252 5 жыл бұрын
Yes and Hunk! I love Ada Wong but I need some few potential woman fighter that could go against my baddest bitch in the red dress!
@cyrusleach9414
@cyrusleach9414 5 жыл бұрын
Ada???
@caramiabambina
@caramiabambina 5 жыл бұрын
This man just outlined the best resident evil fanfic we’re never gonna get
@denji5426
@denji5426 4 жыл бұрын
wait, i def want to write this
@edwardrichtofen9112
@edwardrichtofen9112 3 жыл бұрын
NIEN MIKAN, AREN'T YOU SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD
@erisweirdpalace
@erisweirdpalace 3 жыл бұрын
Wait a sec...Mikan is into RE?!
@edwardrichtofen9112
@edwardrichtofen9112 3 жыл бұрын
@@erisweirdpalace uh
@maiseree1511
@maiseree1511 5 жыл бұрын
Jill's PTSD would be a good point to make a more psychological-horror oriented RE. Remember RE3.5 with the hallucination mechanics, the seemingly supernatural environment? Yeah, how about a virus that makes her hallucinate and give her horrible wesker flashbacks. Also why is it that Claire and Jill gets shoved in lesser known spinoffs (don't get me wrong Revelations 1 and 2 were better than 5 and 6) while Leon and Chris are placed in the more bombastic entries. Claire and Jill are definitely returning for upcoming remakes of RE2 (and hopefully RE3), but it's time they get the main hero spotlight.
@Who-Uhm-Cares
@Who-Uhm-Cares 4 жыл бұрын
Ellie Sime You had me till you said they were better then RE5. That’s a big no. RE6 on the other hand I agree.
@Jonathan-gz1cp
@Jonathan-gz1cp 4 жыл бұрын
@@Who-Uhm-Cares exactly
@casdomdomcas5214
@casdomdomcas5214 3 жыл бұрын
Psychological horror would be lame. Honestly.
@theitfactorjameswheezer2852
@theitfactorjameswheezer2852 3 жыл бұрын
@@Who-Uhm-Cares re5 is dumpster juice
@Who-Uhm-Cares
@Who-Uhm-Cares 3 жыл бұрын
@@theitfactorjameswheezer2852 That’s cause you’re a loner and had to play it solo lmao Legit best experience in RE when playing it Co-Op
@jakestone_
@jakestone_ 5 жыл бұрын
Very well done! I completely agree with you. I always felt that Jill should’ve been AT LEAST mentioned in Resident Evil 6. They even have a perfect scene for that in the game already. When Piers finally speak up, after Chris looses another team in China (they were killed by the snake). Piers said something like this: “ I’m glad Finn is not here to see you like this!” They should’ve just replaced “Finn” with “Jill” and it would’ve work
@commanderjohnshepard6512
@commanderjohnshepard6512 5 жыл бұрын
It's a real tragedy for us Jill fans that they practically abandoned Jill as a character after RE5 but I suppose Capcom didn't figure out how to implement her into the story or how to put her story forward as they simply cannot downplay her story from RE5. No other character has endured real hardship as Jill did, except for maybe Sherry (lost parents at a very young age, was infected with a virus and was kept under surveillance for many, many years) Chris is a typical hero archetype, that's why they prefer to use him so often over others (and it doesn't require any deep or meaningful writing as evidenced by RE6).
@blumiu2426
@blumiu2426 4 жыл бұрын
Your mistake is thinking they had a plan for the story all these years after initial games. Look to the narrative, not so much the content produced to make sense of it.
@tgabz
@tgabz 4 жыл бұрын
@@blumiu2426 man, they didn't have a planned story, but there was still a story, with wasted characters potencials
@blumiu2426
@blumiu2426 4 жыл бұрын
@@tgabz Thus what happens when you don't plan. You end up unsure how to use characters, when to use or even the plot they're involved in. Anything can have a story, but for how long it makes sense or is good depends on how far ahead it was written. That's how bad sequels, run-on shonen get dull and shows lose luster; everything has to end at some point, but money usually kills it because milk it to death.
@blumiu2426
@blumiu2426 4 жыл бұрын
@marcus24000 Rebecca? If you didn't watch the movie with her in it, she doesn't want to be involved in combat anymore. Just be a scientist. Claire isn't military either, and trying to have a normal life, unless you ignored any background on her as well. Not all women are meant to be fighters, but can if need be. Jill is the only one that is trained and wants to be involved. Consider plot and character before just assuming they should be there just because of their sex.
@blumiu2426
@blumiu2426 4 жыл бұрын
@marcus24000 Speculation aside, she wants to let her science fight back. Claire has been trying to live a normal life. Women are geared different than men, Jill signed up for it. Claire never did, she was looking for her brother mainly. You had the one woman in Helen or whoever in 6, and Shiva in 5, even in 4 you had President'sdaughter. Alongside males. Capcom is far from alienating women, so you all need to let it go.
@Nico-vhsyunpocomas
@Nico-vhsyunpocomas 5 жыл бұрын
I really hate what Capcom have done with Jill Valentine, she is my favorite character, and wasted her, she was in the first game, she fight against nemesis, and even she sacrifice her life to save Chris, i hope at least she appear in some new game.
@Draylin41
@Draylin41 5 жыл бұрын
I have no idea why they decided to cut her out or RE6 for Chris's generic soldier buddy but it was probably a blessing. Here's hoping once they're done remaking the golden age games she returns in RE8.
@TheTeknicalMixes
@TheTeknicalMixes 5 жыл бұрын
RE3: REmake.
@ВоваЗацарный
@ВоваЗацарный 5 жыл бұрын
I agreed with you. Love Jill and I can't understand why Capcom just forget about her.
@octpod3923
@octpod3923 5 жыл бұрын
@@Draylin41 Lets pretend RE5 never happened.
@subjectdelta7568
@subjectdelta7568 5 жыл бұрын
Nicolas Reversat Capcon said something about the REmake games being their own thing aside from the canon, so if they keep on doing the REmakes and giving the stories better renditions hopefully they can give Jill, Claire, Sherry maybe even Hunk (that’s wishful thinking with him though) some justice. That’s the only way I can see them doing anything more with Jill and the others characters since they’re getting up their on age already.
@stanj85
@stanj85 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant. And I'd like to add that trauma in general is rarely fully explored in gameplay, despite being so a rich ground for storytelling. Another reason why you should be paid big bucks for doing this.
@gilgamesh310
@gilgamesh310 5 жыл бұрын
Hellblade does a good job with it.
@HeloisGevit
@HeloisGevit 5 жыл бұрын
They dabbled in trauma with Chris in RE5 and RE6.
@Percival917
@Percival917 5 жыл бұрын
@@HeloisGevit True, however, as this video explains, ignoring Jill's is a gigantic waste.
@immortalbrandel7405
@immortalbrandel7405 5 жыл бұрын
Capcom needs to hire you, no question.
@KeyBladeMaster-Dan
@KeyBladeMaster-Dan 5 жыл бұрын
No Mortal Kombat needs Snake he must save it he can go to CAPCOM after
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 5 жыл бұрын
I agree why wasn’t Jill valentine in resident evil 6
@giovannigiovanni.7220
@giovannigiovanni.7220 5 жыл бұрын
When Piers said *It's a good thing Finn is not here to see you this way* Piers should have said "It's a good thing *JIll* is not here to see you this way"
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 5 жыл бұрын
agreed
@li-limandragon9287
@li-limandragon9287 5 жыл бұрын
Claire should’ve been there instead boring ass Helena, Leon gets reunite with Sherry *but Claire doesn’t?* RE6 should’ve been a RE2 reunion like this encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQtM2PNJEwwRh4zEXwCE-RM-igvz82fynfSqbWu740loT_kJzpG
@Patrick-pc3vq
@Patrick-pc3vq 5 жыл бұрын
@@li-limandragon9287 You just fixed the game, instead of Capcom shoving these new characters into the storymode Leon should have been with Claire while Chris should have been with Jill, that way we could have even seen Raccon City reunion and Claire and Jill interacting.
@smiffwilm
@smiffwilm 5 жыл бұрын
Because even a fictional character such as her was able to see how much of a dumpster fire it was going to be.
@deadendjustice948
@deadendjustice948 5 жыл бұрын
If they bring her back they better use Julia Voth.
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 5 жыл бұрын
Why you would ever not use the woman who cosplays for gifs as the character, I have no idea.
@Lyserg1260
@Lyserg1260 5 жыл бұрын
Luckily, Julia Voth will most likely never be Jill again. We need new, GOOD looking Jill at last.
@Zip-id7pm
@Zip-id7pm 5 жыл бұрын
@@Lyserg1260 Stfu Julia is the one and only Jill.
@steelbear2063
@steelbear2063 4 жыл бұрын
Heh, yeah, about that, funny thing...
@Jess-iq1bw
@Jess-iq1bw 4 жыл бұрын
*OOF*
@cerromeceo
@cerromeceo 5 жыл бұрын
Capcom is not the brightest. They always miss great opportunities for characters
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 5 жыл бұрын
This is true.
@luisreyes1963
@luisreyes1963 5 жыл бұрын
Why no love for Rebecca?
@messiahnyx971
@messiahnyx971 5 жыл бұрын
Their villains
@mageeaaron2624
@mageeaaron2624 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I love Capcom, but they miss tons of old opportunities!
@NolanB91
@NolanB91 4 жыл бұрын
They need Jill to meet Claire for once. And Leon while she's at it
@ace9367
@ace9367 Жыл бұрын
Your prayers have been answered in RE: Death island.
@rosen1t
@rosen1t Жыл бұрын
@@ace9367 finally 😭
@joel3683
@joel3683 Жыл бұрын
@@ace9367 Is it good though? I'm very intrigued but would you say it's a good RE film?
@NN010
@NN010 Жыл бұрын
@@joel3683 It’s not out until July. So… we don’t know
@osaki7075
@osaki7075 Жыл бұрын
They finally did 😭
@MiniBlackWaltz
@MiniBlackWaltz 5 жыл бұрын
I cannot agree enough. Of all the things Capcom did wrong with RE6, Jill and Claire being excluded from it entirely (nevermind Jill being practically excluded from RE as a whole entirely since RE5) despite what Chris is going through and the established "drop everything to come help" dynamic they all have was definitely one of the bigger things they did wrong, and of course missing out on the opportunity for Jill and Claire to have screentime together. As usual, your take on how things should've happened was infinitely better than what ACTUALLY happened
@jvccr7533
@jvccr7533 5 жыл бұрын
They've been practically excluded since RE3/CV respectively and didn't make reappearances nearly often enough, now we see a repeat. From what I have seen of RE2make so far (bits up until December+CE items), marketing and reveals, Claire even takes a backseat to Leon now. Not entirely unsurprising though.
@punctuationman334
@punctuationman334 4 жыл бұрын
JVCCR well she didn’t thankfully.
@BIadelores
@BIadelores 4 жыл бұрын
"nevermind Jill being practically excluded from RE as a whole entirely since RE5" Not really true, she was in Revelations 1 which was years after RE5. It feels like she's been forgotten because it's been a while, but you kinda have to remember that the only game that has actually progressed RE's story since 6 is RE7, which came out almost 3 years ago now and before that RE6 was nearly 5 by the time RE7 came out. This decade RE has had a very slow progression.
@wizgi7201
@wizgi7201 4 жыл бұрын
@@BIadelores hes talking about in game timeline Revelattions one takes place in 2004 where 5 takes place in 2009
@HypocriteHunter666
@HypocriteHunter666 4 жыл бұрын
Bladelores Revelations happened before RE5
@nottyseel949
@nottyseel949 5 жыл бұрын
Jill Valentine is my all time favorite character of any medium. Since playing the original RE, I've never attached to a fictional character more. I think because RE1 was the first time I ever remember being scared while doing something in my life combined with trying to keep Jill alive, and the horrible feeling of getting her killed horribly numerous times, there was a deep connection to the character that was formed that was hard to repeat. The closest were naturally Harry Mason in Silent Hill (the only other time I was actually scared, it wears off after a few experiences and it's not the same even if a game is still scary it doesn't have the same effect) and Gordon Freeman in Half-Life. All that said, Capcom has shown me they can redo Jill's story over and over and I'll always be all about it. So even if they don't really take the story forward they could do various retcons and retellings and it would be fine with me. I'd love to see them dig further in on the bond of Chris and Jill, I think it has a bit more meaning if it's not actually romantic. Jill's story was the reason I loved RE5, and I loved Sheva too, but I was on the edge of my seat to find out what happened to Jill. I even watched the movies which I did not particularly enjoy, because Jill was in their somewhere, although they kinda ruined her the first time. Jill's appeal, for me, was that as capable as she was, she seemed meek, humble, sensitive, and caring not brash, hardened, and arrogant. It's much more impressive to me when someone can be strong without an inflated opinion of themselves and abrasive attitude, especially through all of the things that she has gone through. That's what makes her tackling Wesker out the window so compelling as well, and what she suffers because of it. She's not some showboating, thrill-seeking, adrenaline junkie that wants to go out in a blaze of glory saving the day, but, rather, she is entirely motivated by empathy which is more impressive to me as a hero. Even more reason that I think the romantic aspect would lose something, because I feel that Jill would do the same for Barry, Forest, Richard, Rebecca, etc. Further empowering how deeply affected she would have been by Wesker's abuse and control. There are very few heroes like Jill in the media and I could always use to see more of her story.
@seekeroftruth9454
@seekeroftruth9454 4 жыл бұрын
That was beautifull... =)
@banane2279
@banane2279 4 жыл бұрын
Amen
@NoMoreNever
@NoMoreNever 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I felt the same way when I first played Resident Evil (2002 Remake). I think that was the first time I became attached to a player avatar and wanted her to survive this nightmare that was the Spencer Mansion. One small thing that will always stand out in that regard is the Save Room where a small lantern is placed on top of the crates and you can click on it and it says; "The warm light makes you relax." Something about that little detail always stuck with me. Say what you will about RE3 (2020) but I noticed she has a lantern placed in one of the window sills of her apartment. When I noticed that it put a smile on my face.
@darkservantofheaven
@darkservantofheaven 5 жыл бұрын
Gonna be honest, The Wesker children thing was very interesting, but I remember in the Wesker Report from the Code Veronica X DVD, Wesker stating that he and his company had Sherry Birkin in their custody. I wish that had become Cannon, could have been more interesting that her being a Junior BSAA member in RE6. Just replace her with Rebecca, Claire or Sheva. anotherthing I'd like Capcom to a dress are: Who the hell is Hunk? Where the hell is Carlos and Billy Coen? Did Wesker do anything with Steve Burnside's T-Veronica Viral Body?
@SeventhheavenDK
@SeventhheavenDK 5 жыл бұрын
1) Hunk, good question, even though is more for curiosity than necessary. 2) Carlos and Billy, their whereabouts are technically irrelevant, it is not that they are important part of the overall plot of RE outside of the games they appeared, Carlos is just a mercenary, and Billy was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, but it is not they have a reason to reappear or even to be mentioned at all. 3) T Veronica virus and Steve. This one was already answered a long time ago. Wesker used his body for experimentation, Wesker started doing business with the Samples he got from Steve's body. This led to the events of -Operation Javier, where Javier Hidalgo uses the T Veronica virus on Manuela. -Resident Evil 6, in which Carla combined the T. Veronica virus with the G Virus to create the C Virus.
@notsoinvisiblelibra
@notsoinvisiblelibra 5 жыл бұрын
Those are some damn good questions
@jinkazama7587
@jinkazama7587 5 жыл бұрын
Watch the movies, they usually give better... Oh wait
@doomerius1300
@doomerius1300 5 жыл бұрын
Ay lmaooo
@wdcain1
@wdcain1 5 жыл бұрын
This is real smart. Plus, it would make sense for the villains to send Chris after Jill since she has special T-Virus antibodies from RE3 that they would want. Smart use of using PTSD regarding mind control. Marvel has pretty much ditched that story with Carol Danvers by showing she's now just embarrassed it happened liked she got drunk at a party. I understand they don't want their new #1 heroine to be a rape victim but writers like Chris Claremont and Kurt Busiek handled the topic with maturity.
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 5 жыл бұрын
Must've been a real shock back in the day when Claremont brought her back as an alcoholic.
@wdcain1
@wdcain1 5 жыл бұрын
@@The4thSnake Not really since the topic was treated respectfully since Carol's teammates in the Avengers wanted her to get better (except for Quicksilver who wanted her thrown out but back then he was a total prick) but all she did was lash out. It's pretty disturbing now since in the current comics Carol drinks all the time but it's treated like a good thing since she's _"living life to the fullest."_
@Percival917
@Percival917 5 жыл бұрын
"Strong r*pe (and other trauma) survivor" is a character concept I would LOVE to see more of, to say the least.
@MagcargoMan
@MagcargoMan 5 жыл бұрын
@@Percival917 That concept has been done a lot. Not really sure why you'd want it.
@Tsiri
@Tsiri 5 жыл бұрын
Worst thing they ever did to Jill was make her a wetsuit wearing bimbo blonde. Brunette Jill is ONLY Jill.
@NashDTV
@NashDTV 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t know actually kind a like the blonde version too
@Tsiri
@Tsiri 5 жыл бұрын
@@NashDTV I despise it because the director of RE5 just wanted a girl who looked like Nina Williams from Tekken. So they chose to ruin a character's iconic look instead of making a new one.
@lacsoncruz7973
@lacsoncruz7973 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tsiri you are thinking too much, you need to sleep sometimes 😂😂😂
@Goldman200
@Goldman200 5 жыл бұрын
@@lacsoncruz7973 Shut up, are you insane??
@makailacook9080
@makailacook9080 5 жыл бұрын
I like both but definitely brunette Jill is superior to blonde Jill
@OmegaBlackHeart
@OmegaBlackHeart Жыл бұрын
After watching Death Island and seeing what they did with Jill there, this video still holds strong.
@lubi-di9np
@lubi-di9np 5 жыл бұрын
Capcom should hire you for writing RE8
@christineoneill27
@christineoneill27 5 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was dumb that Jill and Claire didn't make an appearance in RE6. Not only is there Chris in RE6 but there are also Leon and Sherry so they had plenty of opportunities to bring back Claire. As for Jill, it s pretty unbelievable that she wouldn't try and find him especially if she knows he has amnesia. She literally tried to look for him in RE Rev 1. Instead of bringing back classic characters and having a one hell of a story, they create new characters such as Helena that nobody really cares about. I mean Helena is ok don't get me wrong but she is one of the least memorable characters in RE.
@moonmojo7649
@moonmojo7649 5 жыл бұрын
She was mentioned in Resident evil revelations 2 when you unlock the secret letters. Jill wrote to Barry , explaining she was undergoing through tests , and can’t wait to be in the field again etc....so maybe there is some work being but who knows :(
@Dibol1987
@Dibol1987 4 жыл бұрын
Problem is Revelations 2 did not get released till 2015. Capcom is incompetent with their storytelling.
@PedroLucas-mg5je
@PedroLucas-mg5je Жыл бұрын
@@Dibol1987 It would've make more sense, for me, If she was the one investigating the Bakers incident, rescuing Ethan and Zoe and fighting Lucas on RE 7 instead of Chris!
@tanyaharmon6739
@tanyaharmon6739 4 жыл бұрын
Jill x Chris let's make it happen.
@finn.degreef1282
@finn.degreef1282 4 жыл бұрын
Horror.......anyone?
@grimes558
@grimes558 4 жыл бұрын
No thanks.
@juliankanzuki2013
@juliankanzuki2013 3 жыл бұрын
Nah. They have never came across as romantic with eachother. They are best friends and more like a familly. Infact Chris has showen no interest in any woman atall, inact outright shut down Jessica when she tried to flirt with him, the most sexual tension he had was with Piers when he pins him against a wall. Add in the fact capcom keep giving him setriotypical gay costumes (leather dady/ sailor boy) I'm fairly sure he's not meant to be straight.
@juniorsigala5028
@juniorsigala5028 3 жыл бұрын
@@juliankanzuki2013 tension between jill and chris is more subtle little more "physical", also if Capcom is trynna make chris gay then don't know, this is more personal but that'll weird me out abit especially with the character of chris who seems like a straight dude so if Capcom wants to go that route then I guess but chris seem to evolve abut from the "gay" idea for him.
@lukejones7164
@lukejones7164 3 жыл бұрын
@@juliankanzuki2013 Really lol?
@Borderlines
@Borderlines 5 жыл бұрын
Jill is one of my favorite gaming characters. I hope they do more with her via movies and games
@mmaScholar99
@mmaScholar99 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, Chris has been through a lot. Both physically and emotionally.
@KaoticReach1999
@KaoticReach1999 5 жыл бұрын
Killing Wesker was a mistake
@residentevil2928
@residentevil2928 4 жыл бұрын
You cant really assume he is dead. Resident evil has problems with invincible bosses.
@casualcookin3893
@casualcookin3893 4 жыл бұрын
@Nemesis T-Type what if he was a clone in RE5
@Raccon_Detective.
@Raccon_Detective. 4 жыл бұрын
@@residentevil2928 Nemesis got his head chopped of then thrown into a tub of acid that was used to dispose of B.O.W.s like him.After the final fight he gets hit with a rail gun which is the strongest weapon in the RE universe but he was still alive then it tskes 7 bullets to "kill" him but then raccon city got nuked.
@Raccon_Detective.
@Raccon_Detective. 4 жыл бұрын
@@casualcookin3893 That would explain his personality change.
@residentevil2928
@residentevil2928 4 жыл бұрын
@@Raccon_Detective. yeah, but you forget that this series is known for its bosses dont really die. I'm willing to bet that he will return in some form or fashion in a future game.
@VluMandamientoXIII
@VluMandamientoXIII 5 жыл бұрын
Jill and Leon should be in the next game. They’re my fave characters
@wizgi7201
@wizgi7201 4 жыл бұрын
Leons been in enough games
@thecrow4129
@thecrow4129 4 жыл бұрын
Leon is... yeah, I could use some time off from "I'm perfect at everything" Leon
@whatok3273
@whatok3273 4 жыл бұрын
@@thecrow4129 Jill and Claire would be the best team up
@thecrow4129
@thecrow4129 4 жыл бұрын
@@whatok3273 Sounds like a great pairing, but I also want Rebecca, she was one of my favorites, and she was only a main protag in 1 game, and was a secondary protag in another game
@Who-Uhm-Cares
@Who-Uhm-Cares 4 жыл бұрын
I’m over Leon. He honestly not that cool in his older ages. He was at his coolest during RE4 but in RE6 he’s blinded dumb by Ada and acts way too serious. Here’s hoping Leon gets a better character arc like Chris has had.
@RandomJtv
@RandomJtv 5 жыл бұрын
Well, that was satisfying! Chris' whole amnesia story line in RE6 was a complete mess within what was a general mess of a game anyway. This was a great take on what the story of RE6 should have been and I co-sign the shit out of it. I always found it weird that RE6 brought back Leon, Chris and Sherry with a Wesker, but not Jill, Claire and Barry, when it would have made so much sense. I also found it weird / annoying how they kept bringing back one well known character from the franchise and then pairing them with a stranger. Replacing Piers with Sheva would have been a nice touch, given that she'd been on a mission with Chris already, so there's genuine care and history there. Her presence could have also been another trigger for Jill's PTSD. Plus, a bit more female representation would have helped offset the wholly male unit that Chris and Piers were apart of.
@RandomJtv
@RandomJtv 5 жыл бұрын
@WillFanofMany : *"Because it makes more sense for new characters to join as the series goes along, you can't only have the same characters saving the world over and over again..."* But as was explained in this video, with certain stories and circumstances, sometimes it makes sense to bring characters back than to have complete strangers. If we're going with The 4thSnake's proposed story; then having Claire instead of Helena would have made sense, given Chris' amnesia and Sherry being out on the run with a Wesker. It would have felt right. Also, there are a bunch of characters from the RE canon outside of the original usual suspects that could be brought back. For instance (and this is just a random example) but we could have has Carlos from RE3 instead of Piers, which at least brings in the connection to Jill. Or had Sheva back again. One of the criticisms at RE5 was that nobody really cared about her and she and Chris didn't seem close. Bringing them back together would have made sense. And having her be one of the infected agents who ends up dying would have added more emotional weight and added to Chris' guilt of being unable to protect her the same way he was unable to protect Jill - triggering his amnesia. *"Chris and Piers were the only all male section of the game".* Yes. And this was the section that I specially referred to could have done with some female representation - which including Sheva would have countered.
@RandomJtv
@RandomJtv 5 жыл бұрын
@WillFanofMany : Claire featuring in Leon's campaign wouldn't completely disallow everything transpiring in a some-what similar way. Helena could have been an Ada type character who frequently appears and Leon is invested in / has a history with, whilst Claire just happens to be there to look for her brother. Also, there could have been tension between Leon and Claire if Leon believed in Helena, but Claire didn't. It could also be the other way around, but everybody would find it strange that Claire is in the game and not playable, especially given that her brother is playable in his own campaign. So you're telling me that Sheva can't be re-stationed? Her ending up in China would be no more strange than Chris ending up there. Or the two of them ending up in the middle of a volcano. "Claire not being in the same league". Really tho? Even in the wake of characters in RE going through some serious transformations? Leon was a complete rookie, wet behind the ears cop who went on to become an action hero who can ride a motorcycle with no hands whilst poppin' headshots on super speed dogs on a freeway. Chris went from Zack from Saved by the bell to Dwayne' The Rock' Johnson. And Jill went from some dim witted chick in a beret, to single-handedly fighting off a zombie apocalypse in a boob tube without so much as having a titty pop out, to full on Nina Williams. Characters can change. A lot.
@momochan5963
@momochan5963 5 жыл бұрын
@@RandomJtv throwing out claire in the story would be just forcing the plot. Using new characters would not require that much of a backtracking since they're new to the franchise. And not to mention the demise fans felt after seeing 6, claire would just be ruined too.
@Pharocidal
@Pharocidal 4 жыл бұрын
Sheva wasn't in RE6 because even though she is a member of BSAA, she's in the West Africa Branch.
@BabyGirlTiny
@BabyGirlTiny 4 жыл бұрын
@@momochan5963 except it wouldn't because helena wasnt actually detrimental to the plot where playing her matters. She could have been an ada character who is showing up to look for her sister and as leon is going through his campaign finds out about Simmons. It's incredibly easy to take helena out because she doesnt offer much as a character. Having Claire works because shes a known character that has teamed up with leon and having her be part of the action makes sense an a scene where she and Leon meets up with sherry could have been so good and much better than what we've gotten.
@mr.checkyourself4672
@mr.checkyourself4672 5 жыл бұрын
Jill is my favorite character in the series like she went through the most than any character she needs to return like what's up with her she probably still coping from Resident Evil 5 these years later.
@zacktaft
@zacktaft 5 жыл бұрын
i can see it now like your fighting Alex wesker then she says i will avenge my brother Albert then Jill flashes back to her days as weskers attack dog and then she says now you've just pissed me off then she goes all out trying to kill Alex then after she takes her down Chris or Barry holds her back from killing him out right
@tylerwilson1024
@tylerwilson1024 5 жыл бұрын
Would be nice if Sheva ever came back and had her character fleshed out more
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 5 жыл бұрын
I'd buy a game about her and Josh on a mission.
@biohazard724
@biohazard724 5 жыл бұрын
She's got a harrowing and kinda heartbreaking backstory but RE5 forces you to hunt down files to read it.
@biohazard724
@biohazard724 5 жыл бұрын
@WillFanofMany I think you clicked on the wrong comment...
@MrKuger9
@MrKuger9 5 жыл бұрын
Seeing as how Sheva is part of the African branch in the BSAA, if the next game were to be set in Africa hopefully they bring her back. That or just send her off to assist Chris, Jill, or other BSAA members around the globe considering the experience and skills she acquired in RE5. Still, I would love to see her again only because she is one of my favorite RE character.
@fernathebest414
@fernathebest414 5 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see her again but unfortunately it won’t happen soon. She is busy raising her daughter now. And yes Chris is the father :)
@UltraGodzilla
@UltraGodzilla 5 жыл бұрын
Jill will return in the RE3 remake (obviously). Hope they model her after Julia Voth like in the original REmake. Maybe even take it a step further and reinvent the character a bit by getting Julia to do mo-cap and voice acting for Jill this time around.
@punctuationman334
@punctuationman334 4 жыл бұрын
Ultra Godzilla she looks like a rip off of Laura Croft if I’m being honest. (Re3 remake).
@mizondez53
@mizondez53 4 жыл бұрын
Baby Blue still she looks good tho
@blumiu2426
@blumiu2426 4 жыл бұрын
Disappointed yet? LOL
@blumiu2426
@blumiu2426 4 жыл бұрын
@@punctuationman334 Blue top, near same jeans. Why they decided this I have no clue. She looks forgettable, not memorable as original outfit. And I think realism is great, but with new characters. The drastic changes in character looks in these remakes is startling whereas they seem consistent for the past 20 years. Jill just looks old, like a soccer mom trying to make it out.
@blumiu2426
@blumiu2426 4 жыл бұрын
@@mizondez53 ....If you're into mature women, sure.
@Slash-df8hb
@Slash-df8hb 5 жыл бұрын
Jill seriously needs an introduction back into the series Resident Evil 8 maybe? I think the games completely moved into another direction after 7 but they got Chris in 7 in that horrible design but I hope Jill return there should be Jill and Claire game where they finally meet and work together throw in Ada and Sherry to.
@GuyOnAChair
@GuyOnAChair 5 жыл бұрын
With the RE2 remake in the works it seems like for once they are doing the smart thing and using this as a jumping off point and as a new fresh start for the canon. They can and or could basically pretend some of the later titles never happened going forward depending on what else they are willing to remake.
@IndIViD80
@IndIViD80 5 жыл бұрын
@@TobyRossi I argee, RE 7 Chris have much more similarities with RE : Remake and Code Veronica, and other Wii rail shooters, they move in wrong way with his design in 5 and 6.
@IndIViD80
@IndIViD80 5 жыл бұрын
@@TobyRossi And I pretend that there was no RE Zero.
@naturebadness1556
@naturebadness1556 5 жыл бұрын
Chris design in 7 if that is actually Chris his design is horrible he looks old anf he's real skinny compared to the first and Code Veronica and Remake.
@naturebadness1556
@naturebadness1556 5 жыл бұрын
PenumbraTheWolf Julia Voth should always be Jill face model
@wolfgirl6347
@wolfgirl6347 5 жыл бұрын
Well, canonically, Claire was dealing with the aftermath of the events of Revelations 2 during the time where Chris was missing after Edonia since Piers is mentioned during the epilogue if you get the proper ending for that game. Though I don't think it's covered who she was talking to, she talks about Chris being in China already and how she was going to leave her brother to Piers since she trusts him. Mind you, she was recovering and Barry was also busy tracking down the island where his daughter was supposedly killed (Which took six months IE the same amount of time where Chris was missing before the China events of RE6). With Chris and Barry both MIA, there was no way Jill could have been able to leave since the three founding members of the B.S.A.A. are Chris, Barry and Jill if I'm remembering that right. Though Jill should be used more and I'd like to see how they could finally use Jill more and possibly deepen the relationships between her and Chris. They've so far wasted her potential and basically side tracked her character which is a stupid mistake on their part.
@Lonequacker
@Lonequacker 5 жыл бұрын
It honestly almost feels like they completely forgot about Jill in recent games even though she was the main character of the original trilogy. Even though I hope she comes back in 8 I doubt she'll be the protagonist since when you compare how the game played as Ethan compared to Chris in 7 people much preferred Ethan since it was less action and more survival horror. The problem now is all these main characters are now 1. Superheroes and 2. Starting to get too old which leaves the series in a really tough spot since every time they tried to introduce new characters they never stuck.
@atomic747
@atomic747 5 жыл бұрын
well we have sherry and jake,which i was hoping for more jake for resident evil 7 as you run around doing kung fu moves on enemies.
@Lonequacker
@Lonequacker 5 жыл бұрын
@@atomic747 judging by the reception to 6 and the shift back to survival horror in 7 I wouldn't be surprised if we never see Jake again.
@atomic747
@atomic747 5 жыл бұрын
@@Lonequacker yeah,which makes me think why even include him and say he's wesker son,you think they could do more for him since he's carrying alberts dna.
@rodrigocolon4156
@rodrigocolon4156 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, as a Die hard RE fan, your imagination for a hypothetical Jill story is commendable. That set up for Jill sounds like it has pliable potential for future games involving Jill. I respect your imagination and logic for the character and story that you projected for the world of Resident Evil.
@bensaxon5762
@bensaxon5762 2 жыл бұрын
why is Jill still missing after all these years? oh yeah,that stupid letter we got in REV2 saying that Jill is still trapped in BSAA "for testing purposes" and since the bsaa is now kinda evil now we can assume the T virus and T abyss can be used for bsaa BOW ...
@sarinael5947
@sarinael5947 5 жыл бұрын
I had exactly the same thoughts. I am SICK and TIRED of Jill not showing up. Seriously, SHE should have been partnered with Chris in RE 6 instead of Piers. Don't get me wrong, I like Piers, but after all what Jill and Chris have been through (especially in RE 5) it would have been amazing seeing them partnered in RE 6 again. On top of that, Jill is a founding member of the BSAA. It would have made so much more sense for her to be in that game instead of Piers. But, as you already said, she wasn't even mentioned, what the hell. It seems like Capcom didn't quite know how to continue her story after what had happened to her in RE 5, but still.
@patrickbateman3944
@patrickbateman3944 5 жыл бұрын
When we Jill and Chris finally bone? Capcom pls
@elexceer6226
@elexceer6226 5 жыл бұрын
She’s my favorite resident evil character unfortunately
@drelezar7745
@drelezar7745 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that Jill wasn’t even mentioned in the entire game of RE6 honestly made me wonder if she died or something. Even more reasons that RE6 is the worst game in the series story wise
@alexandrocorona9283
@alexandrocorona9283 3 жыл бұрын
Yes so true re 6 is worst story ever but damn god did I play the fuck out of that game it’s one of my favorite re’s ever just the gameplay
@khalifrouf2579
@khalifrouf2579 5 жыл бұрын
4:20 LOOOOOL I love that you put this here
@VNSnake1999
@VNSnake1999 5 жыл бұрын
I have sent this to the devs. I hope everyone do the same too if you can.
@Fredo63200
@Fredo63200 4 жыл бұрын
Capcom: Who cares about PTSD and character developpement when we can show *DAT ASS* ?!
@RobotCo-Op
@RobotCo-Op 5 жыл бұрын
Capcom's never exactly been Shakespeare, ha ha. Great video, this has been bugging me too.
@apipazwin847
@apipazwin847 3 жыл бұрын
This taught me something.. Literally nothing happened during the entirety of RE4
@raiaanahmed8804
@raiaanahmed8804 3 жыл бұрын
Code veronica felt more re4 than re4 itself
@BugsMcCoy
@BugsMcCoy 5 жыл бұрын
Jill is my favourite character and I do love Claire but Jill should of been in Claire's place in Revelations 2. She was the protagonist in the first and has a closer link to the Burtons. Jill taking Moira under her wing as Barry searches for them would have been apt. Maybe this isn't perfect as I am very biased toward Jill. Bring back Valentine!
@missmeme3946
@missmeme3946 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you right when moira talk bad about barry jill will talk to her because she saw how barry loves his family in the mansion plus she hint once in letter to barry that she was rebel girl too this is will make her closer to moira
@SeventhheavenDK
@SeventhheavenDK 5 жыл бұрын
The series was doing good character wise (development and appareances). But things started to go downhill when they started to focus on Chris and Leon for everything. And even so, Leon has some rest, but Chris started appearing in everything after RE5, I personally started to get bored of his character. Unlike when he appeared in Code Veronica, that was fresh to see him there.
@gilgamesh310
@gilgamesh310 5 жыл бұрын
I’d say Leon has featured more. He’s in all 3 of those CGI films. Jill and Claire shouldn’t definitely feature in a game together sometime soon, though.
@SeventhheavenDK
@SeventhheavenDK 5 жыл бұрын
@@luisitojr1992 . After Re5, Chris has appeared in every game (except REV2. Leon (and Ada) have been following their normal routine of pair games (2,4,6) , I wasnt thinking in the movies at all, but then you are right, Leon is in every movie too. Both of them are annoying me for completely as they appear in everything. But Chris is even in the manga of the Sonido de Tortuga Island. But I focus more in the games, in those ones Leon has more rest between appearances than Chris. I didnt like RE7, still I know he is there, even when the story is far from being related at all with the others, yet. They include him just because....yes. I dont think Leon has more appearances than Chris at all right now overall either.
@AriaStrife
@AriaStrife 5 жыл бұрын
@WillFanofMany Honestly the third CGI movie disappointed me.
@theuncommonangel8032
@theuncommonangel8032 5 жыл бұрын
I rather have the female leads shine since they always second to the male protagonists I'm sick of both Chris and Leon bring the forgotten male leads back like Carlos from 3, Bruce from Dead Aim or Ark Thompson from Survivor he's even Leon friend what happened to him? Bring the Outbreak characters back.
@li-limandragon9287
@li-limandragon9287 5 жыл бұрын
@WillFanofMany "suicidal drunk" like Chris in RE6? Leon deserves recognition more than Chris he's in the best games (minus RE6).
@ismailtopa3671
@ismailtopa3671 5 жыл бұрын
Just like every franchise ever made, ruined by greed and subsequential sequels
@ericrhodes5174
@ericrhodes5174 5 жыл бұрын
It should have ended with the 3rd game.
@realQuestion
@realQuestion 5 жыл бұрын
moar Jill plz Capcom. Give Chris some kind of happy ending in his life
@Ming1975
@Ming1975 4 жыл бұрын
Jill remains young because of the enhancement, Chris still looks good, Leon still looks good but Claire... Why is Claire old?
@McBanditHope
@McBanditHope 4 жыл бұрын
Ikr, went from "Stacy" to "Stacy's Mom"
@Ming1975
@Ming1975 4 жыл бұрын
@@alessiospurio More like hate the Redfield, they going to kill off Chris in RE8.
@Ming1975
@Ming1975 4 жыл бұрын
@@alessiospurio I don't consider RE7 & 8 the same. That's not my boulder punching Chris. LoL!!!
@gerison320
@gerison320 5 жыл бұрын
Another wasted plotential in RE is Excella imo. She had great potential. Sadly knowing Wesker her fate was sealed but honestly...She could have been plotting against Wesker. Not being an underdog to him, injecting him with a bigger dose of Uroboros maybe idk she could have killed Wesker herself.
@giovannigiovanni.7220
@giovannigiovanni.7220 5 жыл бұрын
Which Wesker are you talking about???
@phoenixsword2452
@phoenixsword2452 5 жыл бұрын
@@giovannigiovanni.7220 They're talking about Albert Wesker...
@giovannigiovanni.7220
@giovannigiovanni.7220 5 жыл бұрын
@@phoenixsword2452 the person should have said that, there is 13 Weskers.
@phoenixsword2452
@phoenixsword2452 5 жыл бұрын
@@giovannigiovanni.7220 Yeah, but I guessed she meant Albert since she was talking about Excella.
@Nemesis_T_Type
@Nemesis_T_Type 5 жыл бұрын
Excella should have survived and be the primary antagonist of the new games.
@BobHarskins
@BobHarskins 5 жыл бұрын
I still don't consider RE7 "Redfield" to be Chris. Sure the way they've handled him in every appearance since 5 have been rehashes and they seem to have inconsistencies in each (Like you mention about Jill and Claire not dropping everything to find Chris like they have in the past), but 7 takes it to a whole new level, where in addition to not looking or sounding like Chris it doesnt make sense in the plot to be Chris and he doesn't even act like him, except for punching enemies lol.
@fenrisvermundr2516
@fenrisvermundr2516 4 жыл бұрын
The Chris from the fan comic "Redfields" is more Chris than that imposter.
@fenrisvermundr2516
@fenrisvermundr2516 4 жыл бұрын
*Code: Redfields.
@pixelbros8313
@pixelbros8313 5 жыл бұрын
Agree with you.. Jill needs justice, she not only needs to be the next protagonist in RE8 or Rev3, but ALSO, in Re3 Remake !
@randomfox12245
@randomfox12245 4 жыл бұрын
The part about RE6 that really just broke me was when Chris is going all aggro about killing Ada, and Pyrce says "What would [random soldier whose name I can't be bothered to remember] say if he was here? >=c " because the thought occurred to me, how much more impactful would that moment had been if he said "What would JILL say if she was here?" fuck me RE6 was terrible, I don't understand WHY it's gotten this bizarre resurgence of people saying it was good all along just for the sake of being contrarian.
@BernardGarcon
@BernardGarcon 4 жыл бұрын
Jill, can't change over the history of RE, can't kill Wesker and can't bang Chris to continue the Redfield Lineage.
@projectpxe1238
@projectpxe1238 2 жыл бұрын
Jill will forever be my favourite character, but since capcom just dropped her character they may as well have killed her off and made her die a hero - an honourable ending to an amazing character, however they’ve got her sitting there like “Any minute now Jill. Just wait another 10 years for your return 🙃’
@PsyrikAntz967831
@PsyrikAntz967831 4 жыл бұрын
Claire and Jill really need to interact! I would love for them to talk about the _Raccoon City Incident_ , talking about what kind of monsters they fought wishing they linked up during that incident😭
@commanderjohnshepard6512
@commanderjohnshepard6512 5 жыл бұрын
Just bring Jill back. 10 fucking years without my favorite RE character? That insanity!
@VespertiliKildem
@VespertiliKildem 4 жыл бұрын
Capcom is on heavy drugs, since BH5. They had all the right moves to create masterpieces until the end of time, and... they don't! There are even characters who've never met eachother yet! Crazy and stupid.
@slickricklj
@slickricklj 5 жыл бұрын
Ironically, before RE5 and Degeneration were out, Jun Takeuchi said from that point forward, they wanted to focus more on the individual stories of EACH character in RE. We see how well that turned out. It's been over 10 years, and they've done nothing with her. Chris has been overused, with the same (tired as hell) plotlines in the games in that entire time. Oh no, people are dying on his team/sacrificing themselves for him, and look a villian Chris wants to take down as a result, so he can have some paper thin exploration of character of wondering if it's all worth fighting for over and over again. It was cute in RE5, and actually made me care a little more about Chris, but he's become a one trick pony ever since. It's a shame, because he had a little potential in RE6, but the way he was handled in RE6 was trash, esp since he had amnesia from a brain injury, PTSD, and survivor's guilt. There was no regard given to his mental health at all, aside from maybe Leon who actually was able to breakthrough to him. Him retiring or being killed after all of that, would've been a complete waste of his character. That aside, we continue to see characters who have ALSO lost comrades (even Captains), and people close to them, who've been targeted by evil individuals personally, have become infected, experimented on, etc. but in Jill's unique case, not only had her sacrifices and survival flipped for evil purposes, but she was used to carry out the actions of someone she hated, all because she thought she was giving up her life to save Chris's, and Wesker's actual hatred of HER and his desire to get revenge on her (not for Chris like some people falsely state), left her in a hellish existence (cut off from all who actually cared for her, and her identity hidden as well), that cost many lives, and some she was forcefully led to be responsible for. This isn't really touched upon...because they kept choosing to focus on more male vs male pissing contests, while the ladies take backseats and/or get turned into damsels to be saved, or literally serve the purpose of furthering along Chris and Leon's missions to success (Sherry's role in Jake's story is honestly no exception). Jill was Wesker's first intended test subject for uroboros, but her antibodies prevented that, and instead it became a major reason thousands were taken in to be experimented on, with the risk of the whole world being threatened ultimately. Wesker had no real need for p-30 in his endgame, but desired to keep her alive in the end, just to make her existence a living hell, making her do everything she was against. Mind you, Jill is the one who told him at the mansion he was nothing but a slave of Umbrella, just like all the other BOWS...and he found he HE WAS in fact an experiment! I love that her words alone, could make Wesker so mad, he would try to kill her BEFORE even unleashing the tyrant! Jill ultimately led to his downfall, by being Chris's only real reason for being in Africa to begin with, but also telling him info to weaken Wesker, going through hell to do so and to escape with her own life...just to go save him AGAIN. She orders Chris and Sheva to kill Wesker, but my issue is Wesker doesn't recognize her role in anything, and we get more tired "CHRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS" as if Chris is the only one to blame for everything. Jill went through HELLL, and doesn't get to say anything to Wesker AT ALL in RE5? Not even before Wesker is killed? She doesn't get to fire even a single shot at him? THAT will forever be BS. Wesker had her out there killing/infecting people, on top of other things we may never see...you know unless she's properly explored. This is unacceptable. Just like if Jill were to come back into the forefront, and her being totally fine, or once again trying to comfort or support someone else, while her own personal issues are glossed over, would be. I never want to see her again having another diary, where she spends less time talking about her own struggles, and more about Chris's...giving him depth. Chris and Leon keep having the same plots, that makes them easy to recycle (hell Chris's story in re6 played out the way it did because they thought the two were too similar then they swapped roles in Vendetta smdh!). Even worse is when they could've retained something of substance, in say Vendetta, it was left only in the script/novelization and cut for more explosions and such. IMO, Jill requires actual thought into her story, which I do think, besides her being a female over 30, is one reason they kept her doing absolutely nothing for the past 10 years. Beta Revelations trailer had Chris narrating as if he was the lead again, and in the end, Jill was the lead, but her personal narrative was to find Chris, and they admit some backstory they initially thought of having for her in the game was scrapped. She and Chris both could've been replaced, and the same story could've been told. It was a total waste of Jill, and she had to share the spotlight with Chris and two essentially one-shot chars (Parker being in a manga notwithstanding). CV was originally her game, but she got the boot because of Kamiya changing things regarding RE2's ending, but I did like RE3 actually let us get in Jill's head, her skills were properly displayed, and you saw what she was really made of, and where she was going...well supposed to anyway. Her opening speech is still one of the best things ever from a protag IMO. Jill was able to retain lead status, while also being explored. She wasn't just a familiar face, while one shot characters actually drive the story and develop, and she just reacts to them. Jill is honestly better of without ever being paired with Chris again, UNLESS he actually functions to serve her character arc, and they actually work together without the lost and found crap for the umpteenth time. Seeing how they have spent her downtime, to treat Chris like he's the only damn BSAA member who matters, there's ALOT they have to make up for. Their relationship is constantly teased as being more than partners, but goes nowhere, like Leon and Ada which is stupid for them. I for one am sick of Jill always playing a support role for Chris (except in RE3, or supplemental material and non-canon appearances where she's actually treated like his equal and is explored), and him being mentioned when she has some focus, but he continues to appear, with not a single mention of her, even from him in files where he reflects on past events bringing him to where he currently was at. At best we got some e-mails in Rev2, ONLY because of Barry's role, and those take place in 2009. They told us nothing we couldn't already assume. Telling fans Jill is ready to be back out there, and you know re-establish her actual LIFE? She was assumed dead by EVERYONE but Chris. That is a HUGE deal. Give this girl a lead role in a MAINLINE game that isn't a prequel or bonus campaign. She damn sure should have her cgi film (which I know is what they seem set on doing), but she could stand to have a manga, and hell, a stage play if they bother to do those again. Chris had all of that! Let the girl actually be allowed to exist without being tethered to Chris, and serving his character. Giving him depth, in exchange for nothing from him to her. 23 years and STILL the only relevant connections Jill has are ex-STARS members? Give me Jill and Ada, Jill and Jake, hell Jill and Leon or Claire...anything besides "oh no Chris is missing/is in trouble I must find him" and vice versa. Just for once, I'd like to see them actually explore a female character properly (moreso than RE3 did). All of them tend to be wasted the most. While I do like they all seem to want Jill to be the lead of the next CGI film, it feels more like it's because they know they've ran out of excuses for excluding her, and they have fans still demanding her (she's literally the 2nd most popular character, behind only Leon), but their excuses have always been pretty weak and/or invalid. I'm not here for Jill coming back totally fine, or even picking up the scraps of someone else's story-line (i.e. her fighting Maria from Vendetta). Jill experienced superhuman-like strength, and her physical appearance changed even. Like there's too much stuff to explore with her, to just let it go to waste for retreaded plot threads.
@kurisu1712
@kurisu1712 4 жыл бұрын
claire > jill
@julesmiller2846
@julesmiller2846 4 жыл бұрын
Why have I never noticed Jill and Claire HAVENT EVEN MET
@thesilentcartographer5575
@thesilentcartographer5575 4 жыл бұрын
Neither have Jill and Leon, albeit theyve read each others reports of Raccoon City.
@Naruku2121
@Naruku2121 5 жыл бұрын
Eh, is there anything official of note about Jill post RE5? Seems like she dropped off the blip in terms of any noteworthy references or appearances, kinda like Claire and Barry up until Revalations 2. Edit: Welp think I got my answer, such a shame. Given such a leave absence she kind of needs her own game or another prominent role should she appear again
@turbohit1003
@turbohit1003 5 жыл бұрын
Jill, Claire and Ada never ever met but I'm sure they obviously aware of each other existence in Ada case I don't know.
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Leon would have mentioned Ada to Claire. Dunno if Ada and Jill have reason to know of each other.
@turbohit1003
@turbohit1003 5 жыл бұрын
What Leon can say to Claire about Ada? That he met her in Raccoon City well he did mention her to Claire in the game but what else? He tried to screw her.
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 5 жыл бұрын
@@turbohit1003 Just that she was a woman who helped him. I believe that her giving him the rocket launcher is canonical, so he might mention her part in killing the Mr. X that pursued Sherry.
@turbohit1003
@turbohit1003 5 жыл бұрын
Yes Ada giving Leon the Rocket Launcher is canon I hope Claire and Ada meet like the two of them interfere wirh each other missions and they have the same goal throw Jill to all 3 have different missions that intertwine with each others and Claire and Sherry should reunite Capcom don't want me as a writer I would get fired do a video if they all meet like a What If.
@BerryNiceToMeetYou
@BerryNiceToMeetYou 5 жыл бұрын
Even if Ada giving Leon the rocket launcher wasn't cannon (which it is) that would make Claire B cannon, where Ada threw Claire the rocket launcher...
@james739123
@james739123 5 жыл бұрын
Jake: A crazy dad and a crazy aunt, boy crazy really dose run in my family. Barry: Ha, if so you must be the family black sheep. Jake: Thanks I guess.
@coreytroup9818
@coreytroup9818 4 жыл бұрын
I like your version better. Really hope they explore her PTSD [and completely make up for her absence] in 3make.
@octpod3923
@octpod3923 5 жыл бұрын
When Leon was introduced in RE2 back in 1998 he turned the world upside down people were obsessed with him and when he returned in RE4 people lost their minds in excitement shit I did. Leon is the most established character and beloved Resident Evil character to date.
@DarkAngelEU
@DarkAngelEU 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure they will make a game based on Jill, but having a character with PTSD is much harder to write than some dudes punching boulders and vampire ladies.
@Alhapra
@Alhapra 4 жыл бұрын
OMG Yes, I love Jill and Claire as a female main character, and in this RE universe they were never interact with each other is absolute madness xD
@ryancentnarowicz
@ryancentnarowicz 4 жыл бұрын
In Resident evil 2 remake Chris leaves behind a letter asking Jill to watch over Claire while he is in Europe. That never happens but probably the closest we’ll get to a Claire and Jill interaction.
@Who-Uhm-Cares
@Who-Uhm-Cares 4 жыл бұрын
Jill needs to come back ASAP as the main character. She’ll be such an awesome character after RE5 events. We need proper dialogue between her and Chris on what she went through.
@patyinterligada
@patyinterligada 2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason Capcom “forget” her is pretty simple. "She is too old to appear on the scene." After some producers said about Iris and Cindy in FFXV, I have no doubt that Capcom is using the same tactic.
@wiimilozy1
@wiimilozy1 5 жыл бұрын
Dude i didn't even started the video and already liked it, but you TOTALLY KILLED IT with that last line. Jill is and will always be my favorite character in the entire RE series, the franchise in general has a special place in my heart I got so sad when capcom confirmed no Jill in RE6, and then after finishing the game reading everything Jill is not even mentioned... She went through so much during RE5, fck, she was our main goal more than half of the game and then they just delete her? She got the T-virus mutated in her body, will she recover? will her body adapt to it just like Sherry? What the hell happened to her? Your version is awesome, and i would have loved to see that in RE6 instead of panic Chris. Im glad that Claire got her own game in REvelations2 and that Barry is back, but I was waiting for the Sherry and Claire moments too. I still hope Capcom do not waste Jill Valentine's character. She is more than a main character, she is a female protagonist icon in the game comunity. She has so much potential specially with all that happened in RE5. Her bond to Chris is more than partners, maybe lovers, but they've walked through the same hell toghether and will do it again for each other. With the latest games Capcom has made the right choices. So im really looking for a Jill Valentine's game next to continue with the main storyline (no more prequels pls).
@Comkill117
@Comkill117 5 жыл бұрын
“A global biohazard.” I think you mean COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION!!!
@DanielBrongers
@DanielBrongers 4 жыл бұрын
I am down for a Revelations 3 with Claire and Jill teaming up...
@deadrock1678
@deadrock1678 5 жыл бұрын
Her design in RE3 was my favorite. She looked badass. She looks so lame in RE5 lol.
@ericrhodes5174
@ericrhodes5174 5 жыл бұрын
The series should have ended with 3
@deadrock1678
@deadrock1678 5 жыл бұрын
@@ericrhodes5174 It became a mess after 4 imo. The story just kinda goes nowhere.
@VanrougeSimp
@VanrougeSimp 5 жыл бұрын
Nina Williams 2.0
@torestrictivefan8336
@torestrictivefan8336 5 жыл бұрын
We need a Resident Evil game with Jill, Claire and Ada meet each other but Jill needs to return even in the wack Vendetta movie she wasn't mention or nothing like does Chris talk to her still I know Barry does but does Chris or even Rebecca keep in touch with her so many unanswered questions 😔
@joseurbina3835
@joseurbina3835 5 жыл бұрын
Torestrictive Fan Well there are shit ton of RE characters through out the series but CAPCOM Doesn't really seem to know what the fuck to do with them.
@powerninjasuperior482
@powerninjasuperior482 5 жыл бұрын
Lets hope it happens
@mrmoviemanic1
@mrmoviemanic1 5 жыл бұрын
This is great man. I love Piers and Chris' story, but this makes way too much sense. You could even have Co-Op playing Jill & Claire. It also doesn't hurt Chris as he's pretty much appeared in every major game outside of RE2, 4 & REV2.
@nomadichippie1930
@nomadichippie1930 4 жыл бұрын
Rebecca chambers is still one of my favorite, I’m playing RE for the first time in numerical order and I really like surviving with Rebecca
@LocksAndChains
@LocksAndChains 5 жыл бұрын
RE6 was the most unintentionally gay story I've ever seen.
@ravenlover7924
@ravenlover7924 5 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@WWJimbo
@WWJimbo 5 жыл бұрын
I just want another game with Jill and Chris as partners. Also wouldn't mind if they made them romantically involved.
@youforget1000thingsaday
@youforget1000thingsaday 5 жыл бұрын
Jill could mop the floor with Alice. Nuff said.
@MillenniumEarl014
@MillenniumEarl014 5 жыл бұрын
Jill survived getting hunted by Nemesis so yeah
@yinyin8769
@yinyin8769 5 жыл бұрын
Finally someone said it! I love this and I love Jill :‘)
@JustinWadeShorts
@JustinWadeShorts 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up I always waited for the resident evil game where the golden 4 would go and “take down umbrella.” But it never happened. We got RE4 and umbrella was already gone. 10 year old me Felt robbed a bit.
@piergiorgiocaroli9201
@piergiorgiocaroli9201 5 жыл бұрын
I want Revelations 3 with Jill-Claire team!!!
@reif1983
@reif1983 5 жыл бұрын
Your right they should do a Jill and Claire story but they should also introduce more new characters cause with 7 we still got a Chris story I know they where trying to connect the story with others but we need a new protagonist yes 7 was a new one but he sucked Capcom has so much potential with the BSAA they could pull a metal Gear Solid 2 wear Jill can be in the support role i think they should go that route no leon or chris and definelty no jake a new guy Jill for back up and support then fit Claire in there that's what you do
@MrCris2021
@MrCris2021 5 жыл бұрын
4:18 Leon approves.
@robertlunaiii126
@robertlunaiii126 5 жыл бұрын
cris chavez that's steve burnside
@ZorcTheDarkOnex
@ZorcTheDarkOnex 2 жыл бұрын
in my opinion the 4 storylines should have been Leon and Sherry: Sherry would be a new Agent with Leon as her Mentor Chris and Claire: Claire is the one who finds chris, and helps him regain his memories throughout the game Jill and Jake: Jill is tasked with protecting the son of the man who inflicted so much Trauma on her, but throughout the game she learns to set aside her prejudices and becomes a mentor to Jake. And then you can have Ada's solo story aswell.
@natebush8217
@natebush8217 4 жыл бұрын
What I don't think is fair is how Chris gets to star in two games straight and becomes a major playable character in the DLC of RE7. I really missed when the series made the main characters take turns being the leads of their respective games.
@NataliaDeCP
@NataliaDeCP 2 жыл бұрын
That's why I hate Chris's story in RE6 so much!!!!!! Why are they acting as if he doesn't have Claire and Jill in his life, who would do ANYTHING for him??? He goes missing for 6 months and is acting like he doesn't have a family or a "partner" (Jill)??!! So Piers is the only one who cares about him?? Such bullshit....
@alfonsor4985
@alfonsor4985 4 жыл бұрын
This sounds alot better then what we got.
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