Well THIS Seems Familiar...

Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings begins with a fight that explains all that follows...and it's also really, really pretty. Flirty Fight February continues!

[@LawrenceSeetoh]

Floaty-floaty Punchy-punchy works, stick with it XD

[@EnigmaHarper]

"What an interesting addition to my day this turned out to be." That inner monologue is everything! It fits so perfectly.

[@TheMM091]

Could someone please make inner monologue subtitles like this for the fight on KZbin? ^^ Great analysis as always Jill, thanks :) I love it too :D

[@tetsatou2815]

Fae are fae regardless of the culture.

[@FabriSlv]

Watching the forest fight I can't help but think that *this* is what The Last Airbender fights should have looked like.

[@fozzzey]

This movie invoked so much of The Last Airbender for me. At the end when Shang-Chi and Wenwu are fighting it totally reminded me of Zuko vs Azula. Even the colours the rings took on. Like they were both firebending but he was using what he had learned beyond that to re-direct her lightning, just like Shang-Chi re-directing the rings. I am also no martial arts expert but I think the style of martial arts that Wenwu taught Shang-Chi at the compound was very similar to the style that firebenders use.

[@seanheath4492]

@@fozzzey Hung ga is what earthbending is based on; firebending is based on Northern Shaolin kung fu. That said, it does have some "final Agni Kai" vibes to it.

[@pamdawkins13]

Yes! I would have loved to see this kind of air bending in the movie

[@fozzzey]

@@seanheath4492 yes, I know, I can Google that. That’s the point I was making. The training montage showing his father training him to be an assassin at the compound seems to have elements of Shaolin kung fu. He is even dressed similarly to a Shaolin monk at one point when he is fending off multiple dudes in black trying to attack him. I don’t think that was a coincidence. What I am not sure of is whether you can point to moves in the Shang-Chi Wenwu fight and say, yes, that there comes from Shaolin kung fu. I also don’t know how different the various forms of Shaolin kung fu are.

[@kellywilliam3708]

Hm, I wonder if they would ever consider making a live action ATLA movie, or trilogy, or mini-series...

[@kirstenpaff8946]

The forest fight confused me, because for the life of me, I can't understand why the mom falls for the dad. The dad finally meets someone who can best him and I could see that being at least intriguing to a borderline immortal warrior who hasn't had an equal in centuries. There is also the whole allure of a new power source aspect. The mom, however, has no reason to be attracted to the dad. Her entire approach to the fight suggests that she sees him more as a nuisance than a threat (she doesn't fear him and seems fairly confident in her ability to kick his ass). She actually has a loving family and emotional support system, so she isn't desperate for a human connection like he is. He shows absolutely no evidence of being anything other than a potential problem. I get not killing him, because that would probably violate her own personal ethics, but falling in love? WHY?!?!

[@JillBearup]

I mean same 😁

[@roguecreative8855]

I'd imagine that it starts as more of a physical attraction, or an attraction because he's different (?) and the fact that he keeps coming back helps it along. You could read that she feels like he's more of a nuisance in the first fight, or you could read it as almost of a patronizing "oh, this is cute" kind of vibe. Idk. They either didn't write all that, or cut it to save some time.

[@MauricioRPP1]

Love just makes no sense sometimes. If you think about it, you won't feel it. And we wouldn't get the movie.

[@EAKugler]

I think that it is because he keeps coming back. She isn't drawn to him at first, and in the fight sees him as you describes, a nuisance, and as Jill says, an interesting diversion to the day. We are not given an exact time frame as to how long the "courtship" lasts. But Wen Wu is essentially immortal, and Ying Li is extremely long-lived. He could have returned every day for years, or every month for a decade. But he puts in the work, and she sees it. And he is very charismatic. It might not be the best choice, but love is rarely thought out rationally. It's why her family is like, "NOPE," and because she has already fallen in love, she takes that as a rejection of her. He puts away his warlording. But when she is gone, he falls back into his old ways, because he had been doing them for a thousand years, and only being a decent for a decade, and grief makes us at least as dumb as being in love.

[@wjhull]

In her defense, she seems to be posted outside the gate on basically a full-time basis, where her job is to deal with anyone the magic forest doesn't kill. Which probably doesn't happen all too often, so... her options are probably a bit limited.

[@Entiox]

Back in the 80s I went to a martial arts convention and one of the people who did a demonstration did what he called "male-female swords", and it was amazing. It was a forms demonstration done with an oxtail dao in his right hand and a jian in his left. The right half of his body was doing a series of powerful movements and strikes, while his left side was moving smooth and fluid. It was kind of like Shang-Chi combining his mother and father's styles but taken to an extreme, and with swords.

[@TF_NowWithExtraCharacters]

The hat-throwing thing is a vestigial trope from ye ol' kungfu films, where it actually makes sense. See, part of the genre lore is that all that superpowered flashy punchy stuff comes from cultivating and using qi, and one of the established abilities is being able to temporarily strengthen objects, so in those stories, the hat becomes a semi-legit throwing weapon. If you've ever watched old kungfu flicks and wondered how on earth people kill with chopsticks, this is it.

[@xyreniaofcthrayn1195]

Not to mention that usually the hat is a disguised chakram so when thrown the hat can quite literally saw through a person's neck if thrown hard enough and gets a good spin.

[@anonymousfellow8879]

I mean, to be fair you can kill with chopsticks-just have Character A ram Character B through the eye with it. Instant braining. -but in the chi one…the chopsticks should snap. Especially if they’re the cheap disposable balsa ones. But anything aside from metal chopsticks are gonna snap just sayin’-

[@nigeldepledge3790]

Also reminiscent of Odd-Job's steel-brimmed bowler hat in the James Bond film Goldfinger.

[@TF_NowWithExtraCharacters]

@@xyreniaofcthrayn1195 Sometimes yes, but most of the time the hat is just some flimsy bamboo thing like in this movie. I mean, if the genre standards already let you do that, why bother making extra props to explain it (and in-universe, why waste metal for a hidden weapon when you can use any old hat in a pinch)

[@xyreniaofcthrayn1195]

@@TF_NowWithExtraCharacters clearly you haven't watched many martial arts films that come from china which shang chi is clearly taking inspiration from although the specific genre is wuxia which is romance, fantasy, action.

[@GeneSimonalle]

Consider the various fights in the movie, "Mr. and Mrs. Smith", and the conflict/fight/resolution. That could be a good topic for Flirty Feb. ❤⚒🔥

[@emm6064]

When she talked about how brutal fights w/ romance: I was _just_ thinking about that movie!

[@johnyshadow]

Oooooh, haven´t seen that in a while. Should rewatch. Great fights.

[@kashre]

I literally came down here to say that, 100% agree.

[@khpa3665]

@@emm6064 Ditto. I love that movie, and that fight is flirty while being very, sometimes uncomfortably brutal. It's then bookended by their completely in-sync fight together in the store.

[@DavidCruickshank]

mr and mrs smith is the exact fight i was thinking of when she said flirty fights can't have actual bodily trauma.

[@Awesome_Pichu]

I do feel like they should've kept Wenwu alive, have him see the final fight and Shang Chi's use the rings with his mother's style. A true demonstration of how he is the product of both his father and mother. Then have him leave the wander the world, maybe as like an exile for all his crimes. But as the last thing for his children, he passes down the rings to them. Shang gets his weapons and the sister is given the organization. Then they could leave his fate ambiguous whether or not they'll ever see him again.

[@PhotonBeast]

Yeah, it would have been a nice(r) end to his arc where he gives up his rings (and his organization) to stay in Tai Lo. And the villagers accept his grief enough to embrace him. He finds a way to give up what he thinks he wants for what he actually needs.

[@MorgenPeschke]

Marvel has an extremely bad habit of killing off the most interesting antagonists, and I can't for the life of me figure out why 😖 It's not like they didn't get tons of mileage out of Loki and Nebula 🤦

[@drendraleigh4722]

Haven't watch the movie but I feel killing off the dad made the movie lose some story telling potential. I caught myself saying "of course he died" out loud. It would be more interesting to see the father slowly changing his perspective and bond with his son

[@meganofsherwood3665]

@@drendraleigh4722 Agreed. I thought they poured a lot of the movie into developing and revealing his character, and it was a shame to lose all of that in one go.

[@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight]

I want a "What If" episode where Wenwu fights Tony Stark. It's the Mandarin vs Iron Man fight we need to apologize for Iron Man 3.

[@boosterh1113]

On the topic of Flirty Fights that do get a little bit brutal, I'd like to submit the one at the beginning of Mr. & Mrs. Smith. It starts out as a gunfight, but it progresses to a fairly no-holds-barred fist-and -found-weapon fight by the end. In this case, though, I think the brutality is played more for comedy (and as a counterpoint to the ending) then as a matter of poor communication.

[@doctorbobstone]

I may have to rewatch that movie (aww shucks ... 😀) but they were already married during that fight, right? I think it filled a different role in their relationship and the plot than many of the other flirty fights do. It's been too long since I've seen it to really remember how brutal it was. They were certainly striking out at each other, but wasn't most of the actual damage pretty superficial? Or at least wasn't most of the damage to the house rather than too each other? 😁

[@doctorbobstone]

Oh, and as for poor communication... They were both leading double lives working for rival organizations... And then found this out suddenly and interpreted it as betrayal. I would say their communication might have had some problems... 😁 It wasn't necessarily for emotional reasons, but neither was really sharing their full self with the other.

[@DavidCruickshank]

@@doctorbobstone It was a fake marriage, Jane (mrs smith) only really acknowledged her feelings for him during the fight.

[@SillyMynabird]

"du du du du, dududu'dudu" Incredibly relatable. Awesome video!

[@AndrewD8Red]

Happy Jillentine's Day to all my fellow dateless wonders

[@johannageisel5390]

Man, I wish somebody like Tony Leung would appear in my life and woo me.

[@AndrewD8Red]

@@johannageisel5390 I may not be Tony Leung, but I can try pitching some woo, if that'd help? OK, here goes: Erm... You're very nice. It seems woo is not my forté, hence my status as a "dateless wonder."

[@johannageisel5390]

@@AndrewD8Red Awwww...😊 You seem nice too.

[@AndrewD8Red]

@@johannageisel5390 Aww, shucks. Thank you, most kind!

[@chizzieshark]

I LOVE the choreography in Shang-Chi. Best fight scenes in all of the MCU, period. The bus fight scene is my personal favourite, maybe because I have nostalgia for 1980s Hong Kong action films mostly involving Jackie Chan. P.S. Thank you for pointing out the similarities in the two fights! I didn't even notice they were bookends.

[@peterlaws444]

That boxing match made me far more uncomfortable than any number of surprise vivisections visited upon the viewer in other shows precisely because of the emotional bagger they are hauling around. Starbuck is my favorite broken soldier.

[@claytonberg721]

If Jill would make two videos on the BSG boxing matches, one starbuck and apollo and one adama v chief tyrol I would be very happy.

[@frankharr9466]

@@claytonberg721 Oh, wouldn't that second one be good?

[@ericpeterson8732]

Katee Sackhoff does broken better than any other actress. Remember her role in the new Bionic woman? The crazy prototype woman? Excellent.

[@roswynn5484]

I couldn't appreciate some of the more far-fetched choices the writers made for BSG, but those intimate character moments, god I lived for those. Oh and btw SO SAY WE ALL!

[@A_Redheads_Ramblings]

Killer laser braclets should always be retaliated with haberdashery 😆

[@RealZeratul]

Fun fact: Most of the "Tai Chi" moves, especially those of Michelle Yeoh, are actually not Tai Chi but Bagua Zhang, which to many people is better known as Air Bending. ;D

[@classicslover]

I think it may be too close to call, since they are both one of the three martial arts of Wudang school. And, since what they were going for, thematically, was the merging- fusion of "Yin and Yang" - Shang Chi's Mom and Dad's making the ultimate "whole" of Shang Chi...is Tai Chi philosophy.

[@andrijbebko8435]

"the plot goeth thusly" - words we've been longing to hear.

[@chrisslashmann5044]

I haven't even seen the movie, but you're talking about it with such passion, that I can't help caring about the characters, their relationships and, of course, their flirty fights)

[@EricChoiniere]

@GiRayne You say "gorgeous", I say I can't believe they got 88Rising on the soundtrack 😮 I've listened to it a lot

[@tarmaque]

@GiRayne "Some gorgeous music in it as well, which is another area the MCU can be weak on." James Gunn would like to have some words with you. (But I see what you mean.)

[@tarmaque]

@GiRayne I was being snarky, but James Gunn is really good at inserting appropriate pop music into his scores. That said, the rest of the score is often unmemorable. That said, when they played the Vormir death theme in _Hawkeye_ I had to pick my heart up off the floor, wash it off, and re-install it. But that's just a ten second musical cue, kinda like you mentioned.

[@valhatan3907]

Same, make me want to watch it even tho I neve follow any Marvel franchise before

[@johannageisel5390]

@@valhatan3907 Shang-Chi stands mostly outside the already established universe. There are some connections and reappearing characters, but it's perfectly possible to follow the story without knowing what happened in the other movies.

[@Miss_Myth]

This is why I love this channel - I caught some of the callbacks to the first fight, but not nearly all of them. And it's just lovely to hear someone knowledgeable say informed yet fangirl-ish things about something you enjoy. 🥰 PS - While you were describing BSG, my brain immediately went to Mr. & Mrs. Smith... "how broken they are" and "how bad at communication they are"? Yeah, that tracks. 😅

[@BillPeschel]

I thought of Smith as well. I'll have to watch that again.

[@teaphee]

Oo. Mr & Mrs Smith would be an interesting Jill Bearup fight analysis. It might be out of her element with guns instead of swords, however she's doing her thing well with flirty fights.

[@Miss_Myth]

@@teaphee Absolutely! I'd definitely love to see her analyze that fight!

[@Jonahcp]

Talking of brutal flirty fights - Mr & Mrs Smith?

[@pintpullinggeek]

That was what I thought of first rather that Starbuck/Apollo.

[@foxpaw76]

Was gonna mention this one. Glad someone else already did!

[@danielnice1695]

“Final showdown dut dut dut dut, dut dut dut dut dut” made me head laugh. Solid comedic delivery👌🏻

[@justineck5664]

As soon as he attacked her the first time I immediately thought earth bennett vs. air bender and I was not disappointed.

[@mjade1097]

You’ve inspired me this Valentine’s Day to go start a brawl at the singles mixer

[@erinyes3943]

How’s it going so far?

[@mjade1097]

@@erinyes3943 I was a little disappointed; I’d come suited up with my massive steam-powered gauntlets but it turned out to be a magic duel/martial arts only event. I was turned away at the door.

[@QoH616]

One of my first thoughts when I saw the forest fight was "I bet Jill Bearup loves this." And I don't think I would have appreciated this fight as much as I did if I hadn't started watching your videos. So thanks!

[@classicslover]

Last September in the theater...I thought to myself..."Floaty-Floaty Punchy- Punchy" is what Jill will say at this point. (Don't know why I capitalized the words AFTER each hyphen in the thought bubbles over my head...but I did. Sometimes my thought bubbles are like that.;) And yes...the brilliance of Brad Allen. And Happy Valentine's Day to you and yours, Jill! Along with some manly, but borderline embarrassing level of excitement that you are warming up more and more to Shang Chi! (There may or may not have been a "squee".) SO GLAD I didn't have to send you that alarm clock with recorded subliminal messages praising Shang Chi to get you in the Shang Chi fan club!. You did it on your own!

[@annbrookens945]

A flirty fight on Valentine's Day! Thank you, Jill! And a happy Valentine's Day to you and all your fans!!!!

[@talkingscribe8898]

3:19 "Then throws her hat at him, which both gives him a look at her face and...." Wait a minute, she's wearing a mask. How does this give him a look at... where'd her mask go?!? It was just on!

[@johannageisel5390]

She probably loses it as some point.

[@erichurst7897]

The forest fight is one of, if not the, best wirework I've ever seen. Just so beautiful. They really upped the technology to make people float through the air with this one.

[@psychodrummer1567]

The forest fight reminded me of "House of the Flying Daggers", for some reason.

[@thetalantonx]

That was a truly lovely Valentine's Day Flirty Fight video. I love Shang-Chi as it was so clearly made with love by all involved, from the writer to the director to even the producers everyone wanted to give a story and actors we might not otherwise have seen a chance to tell their own stories. Though comedic at times, the respect the movie shows is evident in the caliber of cast (Tony Leung and Michelle Yeoh?!?!?!?!) and that casts dedication. If you haven't, watch the Assembled video on Shang-Chi, it shows the work Simu Liu put in to go from strength to flexibility. (OW, OW, OW)

[@susanne5803]

1. You have convinced me: I will watch the movie. 2. That floaty punchy foresty love fight makes me ad a flirty fight scene to my imagined adventures of Beren and Luthien. They should definitely have a fight ...😍⚔️

[@wlwlvr]

@5:44 There was also the fight between Mr. and Mrs. Smith, in the movie of the same name, where they destroy their house and almost each other.

[@FourLetterLWord]

I know eastern martial arts arent usually your wheel house, but if you're ever up for making a few more exceptions like with this and Crouching Tiger, i feel like you'd have a field day with the fights in Jet Li's 2006 film, Fearless.(aka Huo Yuanjia) Hong Kong martialarts films tend to take more noticeable care to incorporate character quirks and personality into fighting styles, but Fearless is also a very textbook Campbellian Hero's Journey and it's super cool to see how where Jet Li's character is in that process of character development reflected in the choreography

[@lonjohnson5161]

Jill, I finished Arcane: League of Legends two days ago. If you haven't seen it, you must. I you have seen it, you must speak of it (with STRONG spoiler warnings). There are many fights, all of them mean something and they all leave you feeling something at the end. By the way, I'm 55 and the last time I remember feeling like this was in 1977 after watching a boy with a glowy stick blow up a planet killing space station.

[@Itsolaskancke]

Hearing Brad had passed really broke my heart 💔 Taken from us far to early

[@pamdawkins13]

Thank-you! This was awesome to wake up to! When I was watching this scene for the first time, I was just sitting their thinking "oh my goodness! It's a flirty fight! I really hope Jill Bearup covers this!"

[@yinnyari]

Thank you, I had Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings on my to-do list, I watched the first part of your video then had to watch the film before I watched the rest. I love it too

[@Thareldis]

As someone training Hung Gar Kung Fu for some years now I absolutely loved seeing it in a Marvel movie and it's cool that this version of the ten rings actually lead people to research and find out that weight rings are used in Hung Gar to train specific things.

[@DreadedRhubarb]

Tony Leung has an amazing flirty fight with Zhang (Crouching Tiger) Ziyi in The Grandmaster. Two characters meet properly, develop mutual respect and fall in love while having an exquisitely choreographed fight.

[@scylla1772]

Anyone else notice the insane number of parallels between this movie and Kung Fu Panda 2? Mother sacrifices life for Kung Fu child, but nonetheless can't save him from the lingering trauma brought upon by the tyrannical despot her killed her? And said son journeying back to his mother's village, and finding over peace with the help of an elder? The point is they're still very different and great movies, but it really threw me lmao

[@The_Mashupman]

When you started to talk about Hurty-Flirty fighting, my mind immediately went to Buffy and Spike in season 6, episode 10 'Wrecked', mainly because of your comment about them being broken if they did hurt each other.

[@clairehamilton9509]

The heat throwing reminds me of a slide being thrown

[@Waldohasaskit210]

Well now you're going to have to do a video on the Battlestar Galactica boxing episode. The emotions in that episode are high and a boxing fight might be good variety from the others fights you've done.

[@mnorth1351]

Indeed! Bears, Beats, Battlestar Galactica!

[@benjackson8731]

something for the cliff fight that stood out to me, and you partly touched upon, was that Wenwu seemed to have learnt from the forest fight. You had the parallels between Shang Chi and Li, which Wenwu saw and so he knew what was the next move and countered it as it was happening.

[@ajaxwillis3962]

I've only ever seen the original Battlestar Galactica; picturing the original Starbuck and Apollo in a flirty fight is funny. Especially since the actor who plays Starbuck is also the one who plays Face in The A-Team

[@sometimesfunny681]

Love it, very well broken down and well done for using the actual terms for their style

[@complexedone]

I wanted to say thank you for making all of these videos. They have become a go to resource for me as I work through my writing, reminding me to ask questions like "why are these people fighting?" and "how does that come across in their actions?" Even in prose, having answers to these questions have made my writing better and helps to give the fights the emotional punch (whoops, pun) that I want the scenes to have. So, watching you videos help make me a better writer. So, thank you.

[@_thomas1031]

@4:12 Jill, your awesome for keeping this part in because I've made that mistake before🤣🙌🙌🙌

[@MauricioRPP1]

Great part actually, Jill showing us a bit of her mind there

[@piros100]

the first time I saw this movie (last week) and especially during the forest fight, I was already imagining your narration and explanation of it.

[@ZAPitsALEX]

I'd be interested in your take on Mr. and Mrs. Smith.

[@TheLadyBelladona]

Yes, I was totally picturing the Starbuck/Apollo boxing match, and then you showed it!

[@mooselee3053]

My favorite marvel movie so far. Those bookend fights are so good.

[@kyidyl]

That starbuck/Apollo fight is literally one of my favorite things in my favorite series.

[@nicolakunz231]

I haven't seen this movie yet, Fortunately I love spoilers and will likely now watch it as a result of this very video. I have some training in Northern and Southern Shaolin kung fu as well as a Teeny bit of Tai Chi so the phrase Floaty Floaty Punchy Punchy just makes so much sense to me and I love it. Am about to watch the Flirty fight play list instead of doing some writing LOL.

[@nick.raptis]

"Does anybody remember the boxing match in BSG?" Every.Single.Workday Jill! Every single workday 😅🤣😎

[@yami-131]

I didn't really like the Shang Chi movie, but I have to admit that the especially the two fights mentioned here were captivating. visually beautiful, conveying meaning, and set up wonderfully.

[@kimberlyterasaki4843]

5:15 "It would not look amazing to have two characters who are meant to get together at the end kick the ever-loving snot out of each other." That actually as me thinking: would you ever do a retrospective on Kylo Ren and Rey's relationship through their fight scenes? They start out very antagonistic in Force Awakens, fighting with practically no-holds-barred, before literally trusting each other with their lives in Last Jedi, and then going from "literally causing near fatal wounds to making out" in Rise of Skywalker.

[@pamdawkins13]

Agreed! Their fights scenes are so interesting. My favourite detail is how in the Starkiller Base fight you can see Rey trying the use staff moves with the lightsaber. (Can't remember who pointed that out, but thought it was cool.) Makes me think that she was still getting her footing with the weapon in that moment meaning that Kylo Ren was a little too focused on trying to get her to be his apprentice to actually try and kill her immediately. (I'm not sure he would have killed her anyway given the level of curiosity he had regarding her, but you know.) And then she figured out how to use the Force and it was too late.

[@IronmanV5]

You don't love these fights nearly as much as I love your videos. Happy Valentines Day.

[@DoctorQuackenbush]

I also liked the fight in the forest. I like your spiral braid as well.

[@chuckwilson980]

Recently discovered your channel, Jill, and enjoying working through the backlist. Liked your insights into the Shang-Chi fights. Speaking of flirty fights with injuries, I'm reminded of Worf from Star Trek: The Next Generation. He had some intense fights with Klingon weaponry with a couple of his lady-loves. And mentioned that a broken collarbone during the honeymoon is considered good luck in Klingon culture... 😉

[@colleenlongua9752]

I already loved Shang-Chi and now I love it even more. Thanks Jill:)

[@sapphirII]

Alan Seawright, one of the guys of CinemaTherapy and a filmmaker, said in one video(about toxic positivity) that movies will always include at the beginning an hint of the end. In Shang-Chi, in seems to be the flirty fight.

[@iatsd]

And not a single word about the cinematic & contextual aspects of lighting, setting, and scenery that were used in the story telling for those two scenes.

[@gurthangorcus]

Yes Jill, I remember BSG and that amazing boxing match! However, I never thought of it that way, I always put it more in the Rocky 1 camp of nobody really wins or loses type of fight. Sayyyy Rocky vs Apollo Creed through the flirty fight lens would be great, for all three of us that would watch it. :)

[@Crazael]

8:26 I gotta say, "punchy punchy and floaty floaty" is such a more fun way to describe the martial arts styles used...

[@sophiemcculloch5385]

I love your videos!!! Happy Valentines Day

[@renskedunnewold1995]

Jill I really want you to talk about the Rasputin fight from The Kings Man, it's a joy

[@tianawalker8172]

Thanks for the breakdown! I loved it. The hat throw made me think of Kung Fu Panda 2, and the "disc of destruction!" :P

[@susannekalejaiye4351]

I know I listened to this when you released it, but getting it again today. Delightful! Absolutely delicious delightful (though no cheese).

[@sarahwatts7152]

Shang Chi was the first movie I saw at a drive-in movie theater. I liked that the fight scenes had some crouching-tiger-hidden-dragon, but that we also got scenes like the bus fight which were grounded and epic.

[@baded3342]

I just love how intelligent and eloquent your scripts are. Truly a breath of fresh air.

[@Taracinablue]

Oh, I hadn't realized the symmetry between those two fights--how interesting =)

[@lacrartezorok4975]

The ones that really hit each other are in Mr. and Mrs. Smith, and season 6 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

[@WarmLillie]

*Lillie soon take notes* Your mother, father and love one can effect you for own fighting style now. That explains about me…

[@CrimsonTemplar2]

The bookend fights are a great part of the film.

[@slightlyembittered]

I wonder what Ying Li's favorite movie is? I bet it's "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon." With all the floaty floaty and pretty pretty. And imagine if they watched it as a family movie. Xu Wenwu: "Are you sure this isn't too violent?"

[@soulbro55]

I was thinking it would be great if Jill covered this and then she did, awesome.

[@nigeldepledge3790]

That forest fight has echoes of one of the gorgeously-shot fight scenes from Hero.

[@helenafarkas4534]

that orange vs blue phrase made me think of the last Agni kai from A:TLA. and I know you've done a video on that, so here's some parallels beside the colors (note, All I know about Shang Chi is your video here but here goes) both are fights between family, both are fights where one (apparently) doesn't want to really hurt the other, and the other one will take advantage of that. in both fights the (pro)tagonist is using orange, while the (an)tagonist is using blue. both fights end with the choice to show mercy on the part of the (winner). and that's the end of my insight, because I truly haven't seen the movie

[@VM-me9vm]

I remember the boxing!! it was intense and heartbreaking even for someone who didn't followed the series religiously, such a good episode, I love this channel ❤️

[@mollytaylor2122]

5:21 _"you can't have people wailing on each other too hard and actually hurting each other"_ so it's been a long time, and I could be wrong here, but to me, that brings to mind the fight in _Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon_ in the desert, which I _seem_ to recall involves a lot of wailing on each other?

[@astonbean]

YESSS!!! the second I saw the forest fight scene I was like "Jill would love this!" and I am very glad that you made this video

[@nekromimi]

I don't know if you've considered diving more into wuxia/xianxia films or dramas, but Ten Miles of Peach Blossoms and Legend of Fuyao (both starring Yang Mi) have some fun flirty fights with them same floaty wire work as the forest fight.

[@Antifrost]

There's another difference between Shang-Chi's two fights with his father at the end of the movie that I found interesting. When he confronts Wenwu the first time, he's wielding a staff, speaking and fighting aggressively. At this point, he's fighting like his father taught him to (a point emphasized by the line "You trained your son to be a killer, is this what you wanted?!"). By the time they clash again by the gate, Shang-Chi has calmed down, incorporating more defensive techniques and turning Wenwu's aggression back against him. As you've pointed out, he's begun adapting his mother's fighting style into his own now. In both scenes, Shang-Chi tries to end the fight early (something he's done in almost every fight in the movie so far), but Wenwu is too consumed by anger to hear him the first time. He essentially has to speak to Wenwu in the manner of the only person who's ever gotten through to him before in order to end the fight. The fight choreography in this movie was beyond amazing, and your video has given me a deeper appreciation of it. While I do wonder what the future could have looked like if Wenwu had survived, I was more than satisfied with the ending we got and I hope that whenever Shang-Chi shows up again, there's as much or even more attention to detail and storytelling in the fights scenes as well.

[@pikameer8325]

Ooo good Battlestar reference :) Loved the reboot, wish it was talked about more.

[@geoffroi-le-Hook]

the Final Countdown

[@extrasmack]

I never watched this because its characters and story simply weren't part off my Marvel reading growing up. There was no nostalgia factory or familiarity to draw me in. Couple that with the fact I'm not the biggest fan of wushu fight scenes ever since they began influencing and thus infecting EVERYTHING after the success of Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (the last wushu based movie I actually enjoyed) and the obvious outcome is it simply floated under my radar. Now after hearing this review I'm actually feeling compelled to go watch this. Thanks a lot, Jill. Edit due to auto "correct" hating me and never wanting to make things easy. Lol

[@scottmantooth8785]

*not that this would ever be made but i can't help but think of how a fight like this would be translated as a hybrid fusion of the Matrix and Monty Python Holy Grail Black Knight bridge altercation*

[@classicslover]

Ha! Interesting visual...but hardly "flirty".

[@scottmantooth8785]

@@classicslover *it could be...depends on your personal level of self medicating with recreational pharmaceuticals or expensive forms of ethanol...of which i do not recommend or use as i have no need for them and can easily make a fool of myself unaided by random chemicals*

[@DeannaGilbert616]

I remember when I saw this fight I said to myself, "I can't wait for Jill to do the video on this." :-)

[@psykotedy]

Phenomenal breakdown!!! Based on you "you can't have two people just wailing on each other too hard and actually hurting each other" statement, I am wondering how the Mr & Mrs Smith fight at the house stacks up in your assessment of flirty fights (I know there are a number of points at which quarter is given despite not being asked for in there). Is it more a lusty fight than a flirty fight? Is it a testament to how broken their relationship is (this is my take)? I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.

[@WarmLillie]

Float like my mother, sting like my mother!!! For me it’s other way around since my mother beast form pack a bit punch

[@rosieposie1760]

How are you not more popular than you are? these analyses are amazing!

[@JillBearup]

That's very kind of you :)

[@jonathanedelson6733]

Just one thing you need to know about. Dance Dance Immolation

[@DakotaAP]

Amazing flirty fight "Mr and Mrs Smith"

[@Fatherofheroesandheroines]

That's one way to throw your hat in the ring!

[@leventemolnar1973]

I wish instead of the big monster fight at the end we got more screen time with Li and Wu, how he finds love and acceptance and a how he acomodates for a peaceful and "boring life" and maybe also find out what she saw in him? Because as far as I remember, the movie never really tells us.

[@redace001]

She dons her fancy specstacles, slips ino a frilly red dress, adorns her lips with bright red lipstick, and has her sword on display within easy reach. I do believe dear Jill you are flirting with all of us! :D Thanks for the insightul look at the 'flirty fight' this month. We wait with anticipation of the Ides of March.

[@1FatLittleMonkey]

And that spiral braid so casually draped over her shoulder. Woof!

[@171QA]

Nice of you to talk about the film.

[@WilliamWallace14051]

Perhaps the hat throwing reminds one of Odd Job?

[@AndrewD8Red]

The battlehat is a time honoured tradition in media, not just limited to Oddfeld. I mean Blofeld. I mean Blojo- erm, Oddjob.

[@Jukain]

Kung Lao from Mortal Kombat, personally.

[@urdaanglospey6666]

When you were talking about broken couples beating the ever living crap out of each other, my mind went to Mr & Mrs Smith . . . I don't know the apollo fight you mentioned.

[@BlizzardofKnives]

Parts of this movie were the best Last Airbender movie thus far.