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Just Stab Me Now: A Women's Armour Tier List

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Jill Bearup

Jill Bearup

Күн бұрын

Can you move? Can you breathe? Can you fight?
Today we're going to look at some armour, and also 'armour' and probably draw some ANGRY ARROWS. Also this list is basically being judged on how comfortable and useful I think it would be to wear, you have been warned.
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@JillBearup
@JillBearup 2 жыл бұрын
Try out the secret extended edition of the video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zn-xl5l-h8eYgMk (Think of it like a Patreon taster) How did you like the Angry/Confused Arrows? I enjoyed venting my frustrations via drawing 😁
@AndrewD8Red
@AndrewD8Red 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, why is your comment from 5 hours ago?! 😯
@datgaydangernoodle1315
@datgaydangernoodle1315 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewD8Red must have been private and she commented first. She must have wanted it pinned when the notification went out.
@AndrewD8Red
@AndrewD8Red 2 жыл бұрын
@@datgaydangernoodle1315 That's cheating.
@Stormwern
@Stormwern 2 жыл бұрын
See Excalibur right now, it's amazing!
@datgaydangernoodle1315
@datgaydangernoodle1315 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewD8Red no its not- what do you even mean lol
@jinxtheunluckypony
@jinxtheunluckypony 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad there’s a “not actually armor” category. Trying to rate zero-suit Samus when Samus never willingly goes into combat without her power armor just wouldn’t be fair. It’d be like rating Darth Vader’s armor when he’s in his therapy tank.
@sethb3090
@sethb3090 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I saw that thumbnail and I was like "Um, that's when she's not actually wearing her armor."
@randomduck8679
@randomduck8679 2 жыл бұрын
Would Vader's suit even count as armour?
@rakninja
@rakninja 2 жыл бұрын
@@randomduck8679 i'm pretty sure it's got a better version of the same kind of plating that stormtroopers use. just because his armor is also a life support machine does not make it any less armor, at least in my opinion.
@joshuahogan3475
@joshuahogan3475 2 жыл бұрын
@@randomduck8679 you see him tank a hit from a LIGHTSABER with minimal damage in Empire Strikes back. It's not just armor, it is DAMN good armor!
@user-pj1ec5om5g
@user-pj1ec5om5g 2 жыл бұрын
@@logicplague shush
@matthewmcneany
@matthewmcneany 2 жыл бұрын
I freakin' love tier lists where the person explains what the tiers actually mean.
@hansdieter8801
@hansdieter8801 2 жыл бұрын
It does not only help the watcher to understand what is going on, but also helps the Creator to rank them, what makes them way less random
@Caldera01
@Caldera01 2 жыл бұрын
Generally the tiers don't mean anything. It's just a gradient from best to worst.
@lolmaker777
@lolmaker777 2 жыл бұрын
Generally speaking I think the following should apply for gaming tier list (in my opinion). Outside of gaming, something similarly tailored for the intend there. S: No reason to pick anything different ever. A: Solid pick in almost all circumstances B: Will be decent in most situations C: There are reasons why you might want this, but better options are typically available D: Not good enough to be good, To good to be bad E: Extremely situational, Only pick with the right synergies F: Never pick this under any circumstances
@sammiller6631
@sammiller6631 2 жыл бұрын
@@lolmaker777 Why S? S is so random. Yes, S is still random in all those video games.
@cactuskaktus6734
@cactuskaktus6734 2 жыл бұрын
That’s like the bare minimum. Don’t know why people don’t do that
@gloweye
@gloweye 2 жыл бұрын
"Not actually armor" is a category a lot of people forget when talking about this topic. And slave leia costume also gets a lot of hate. People seem to forget she got captured and forced into that outfit by a blatantly evil crime boss/slave owner for the sole purpose of humiliating her and/or any possible rescuers.
@SprikSprak
@SprikSprak 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly - and then she turns the tables on that same boss and kills him with the very chain that he was using to enslave her. Is really obvious what the message is there really
@natesmodelsdoodles5403
@natesmodelsdoodles5403 2 жыл бұрын
The best bit is that she proceeded to murder him with it before making her escape. As usual with Leia, she's no damsel, she's a prison riot waiting to happen.
@neptun2810
@neptun2810 2 жыл бұрын
Jabba is literally the drug lord of the Galaxy, who runs a big criminal empire and kills people just for fun. All of that is ok, but him puttin Leia in that Bikini and chaining her to his throne is not ok? Actually that might be one of the minor bad things Jabba did.
@TheSarahskaninchen
@TheSarahskaninchen 2 жыл бұрын
I think i absolutely agree with you there, but in some Films it very much depends on the camera focus. You can Show a Woman in such a costume and then Focus much on her breasts or butt, which would make it a very sexualised gaze. Other films May Show a similar costume with a different camera focus (more full Body shots and then Focus more on the face and Arms which means more focus on the characters actions instead of highlighting their sexuality or gender). So it is Not that much about the reasons for the costume but the directing decisions.
@YouAreStillNotablaze
@YouAreStillNotablaze 2 жыл бұрын
It lines up story wise but at the end of the day we know why they had her wear that and it wasn't for the story
@PaulJohnsonM
@PaulJohnsonM 2 жыл бұрын
Samus' Zero suit is basically underwear. It's form-fitting clothes to be worn under her fusion suit, which, itself, is an intermediary layer and interface between her and the power suit. The only reason she appears in the zero suit is because of extenuating circumstances. Judging it as armor is like judging a full set of plate when the wearer was forced to take it off, leave it behind, and is now in his jimmies.
@technoturnovers7072
@technoturnovers7072 2 жыл бұрын
wait a second... does that mean that zero suit samus is like arthur from ghosts n goblins? holy shit, this is a revelation
@lordbelou7279
@lordbelou7279 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that's what I was thinking of !
@tyree9055
@tyree9055 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, a warrior who takes off his gothic plate armor would most likely still be wearing his padded gambeson underneath, and if he took it off, then he'd be wearing braies, trousers or his "jammies". I won't comment on his loincloth... 😅
@williamturner6192
@williamturner6192 2 жыл бұрын
@@tyree9055 and in similar manner Samus' 0suit is probably kevlar with some other scifi tech going for her. But if this is a non scifi ranking then "not armor" fits. I say she has some energy and physical protection though.
@AXELweirdTigger
@AXELweirdTigger 2 жыл бұрын
the weird thing is how competent she is wearing that in smash vs her full armor
@zachary4670
@zachary4670 2 жыл бұрын
When someone asked Carry Fisher about how revealing the metal bikini outfit is, and how could she wear it as a feminist icon, and what would they say to their daughter about it, Carry said: “You tell your daughter that an evil person kidnapped her, and forced her to wear it. And then she killed him.” RIP our Princess.
@toptsun8484
@toptsun8484 2 жыл бұрын
Really makes you raise your eyebrow at "stereotypical male nerd characters" who cite liking this costume, huh
@gumball6445
@gumball6445 2 жыл бұрын
@@toptsun8484 Shhhhhhhhhhh
@pwnorbepwned
@pwnorbepwned 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of arguments over the live action Ghost in the Shell movie. “What do you have to say about a movie where a Japanese girl is kidnapped, mind-wiped, and has her brain shoved into an artificial body that makes her look like a white woman? How can you stand a movie depicting something so heinous as being okay?!” “By being glad when the cartoonishly evil villain who does all that stuff in the movie gets his comeuppance. Seriously, it’s not like movies with slave owners as the villains are advocating for slavery. Lighten up.”
@treacherousjslither6920
@treacherousjslither6920 2 жыл бұрын
So a feminist icon can't wear a bikini? What's wrong with showing some skin?
@treacherousjslither6920
@treacherousjslither6920 2 жыл бұрын
@@toptsun8484 Women like the costume as well. And why not? It's a sexy good looking iconic costume.
@SMTRodent
@SMTRodent 2 жыл бұрын
The prediction that I would like a tier list combined with lady armour turned out to be remarkably accurate.
@arcadeinvader8086
@arcadeinvader8086 2 жыл бұрын
What tier would you rate that prediction
@oddtomato1049
@oddtomato1049 2 жыл бұрын
@@arcadeinvader8086 Medium tier. I play it safe.
@DaniDoyle
@DaniDoyle 2 жыл бұрын
Same. KZbin has figured out that I'm gay
@oddtomato1049
@oddtomato1049 2 жыл бұрын
@@DaniDoyle *Google knows everything* Privacy is an illusion, wether you're online or not.
@DaniDoyle
@DaniDoyle 2 жыл бұрын
@@oddtomato1049 I mean, its not like i hide it :p
@JeromeTheInvigilator
@JeromeTheInvigilator 2 жыл бұрын
With the Dora Milaje armour, I think the implication is that there's meant to be Vibranium weaved into the fabric, removing the need for extra plating. Loved this vid btw
@ezradlionel711
@ezradlionel711 2 жыл бұрын
But Samus Aran's Zero suit isn't some alien alloy that helps her roll into a ball without breaking her spine? She clearly copped out on that because she has no "spine" and afraid of "blacklash".
@VGInterviews
@VGInterviews Жыл бұрын
@@ezradlionel711 no it is not, you can't use morph ball when using zero suit, play the games jeez
@zatoby6705
@zatoby6705 Жыл бұрын
@@ezradlionel711 Samus actually becomes pure energy when in the morph ball. Its not just a shell that encases her. Same with her power armor that physically changes her proportions. Her suit is closer to straight up magic rather than hard sci-fi
@ezradlionel711
@ezradlionel711 Жыл бұрын
@@VGInterviews You guys certainly have a weird way of agreeing with people. Yeesh.. and I thought I was a contrarian.
@nahor88
@nahor88 6 ай бұрын
@@zatoby6705 Nah its still sci-fi; they're just using science from a different universe way, way ahead of anything we're currently capable of. A device that converts our bodies to pure energy and back is theoretically possible.
@Vastin
@Vastin 2 жыл бұрын
Riffing off your mention of poorly attached cuisse... Some years ago I was running alongside a friend in a battle when his not-well attached cuisse came unbuckled and slid down over his knee and locked to the top of the greave as he was bringing his leg forward. This turned his entire leg into a rigid vaulting pole - and he was a quite tall man at a dead run. A second later I got to see him flying through the air next to me at my own shoulder height, but completely horizontal. He came crashing down, digging a pretty good trench into the loam with his helmet's faceplate. He was uninjured, but it was seriously funny watching him spend the next minute trying to reorient himself and pull the sod plugs out of his helmet's eye holes. Buckle your armor properly, is what I'm trying to say here. :D
@kattriella1331
@kattriella1331 2 жыл бұрын
This- This sounds amazing. I wish I had been able to see this in person. XD
@Vastin
@Vastin 2 жыл бұрын
@@kattriella1331 It was definitely one of the most hilarious armor malfunctions I've had the opportunity to witness.
@clothar23
@clothar23 2 жыл бұрын
Had something similar happen to me. Except I also lost my helmet in the process. Still have a scar down ths right side of my head for my pains . And I scared several small children who saw me bleeding like a stuck pig. Seriously it's ridiculous how much even a superficial head wound bleeds. And I ruined the fancy engraving on my armour to boot. Had to have the whole suit reworked and a couple pieces outright replaced.
@Vastin
@Vastin 2 жыл бұрын
@@clothar23 Yeah, that's a little worse off. Ouchy.
@clothar23
@clothar23 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vastin I definitely learned the value of making sure my armour is properly secured. And having someone else check it out before any serious activity.
@Missiletainn
@Missiletainn 2 жыл бұрын
The Zero Suit Samus outfit you looked at was the Smash bros one, in the main games, the heels don't (usually) exist (we ignore Other M here), and in the Concept Art which was released, they even have a section which says "No heels, especially not heels like this *shows heels shorter than the smash bros heels"
@aionicthunder
@aionicthunder 2 жыл бұрын
Even in Brawl, where she does have heels, said heels are block heels and, thus, are pretty practical (also, can you link me to an image of zero suit samus like that? Because I tried Zero Mission, but all the images I found cut off before her feet)
@Missiletainn
@Missiletainn 2 жыл бұрын
@@aionicthunder Most youtube comments not posted by the uploader of the video are removed automatically by KZbin if they contain links so I'll try to send it in a different comment, if there is no other comment, it was removed.
@anonymousfellow8879
@anonymousfellow8879 2 жыл бұрын
…I mean…Sakurai only ever includes and redesigns female fighters for the target male audience to get titilation. (So I delight further when I use Zelda or Peach to kick ‘em in the face or crotch. Put me in a dress? FINE. Watch me slaughter you in revenge.)
@JillBearup
@JillBearup 2 жыл бұрын
Links are automatically held to make sure they aren’t dodgy 😁I usually get to them within a day or two! (Sooner if I have a new video up)
@andrewkeeler4291
@andrewkeeler4291 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I'm a little surprised that Zero Suit Samus didn't fall into "not actually armor" since the powered suit is the armor.
@AndrewD8Red
@AndrewD8Red 2 жыл бұрын
"Just stab me NOY" The Irish accent is at once a thing of beauty and a thing of horror.
@JoshuaKimbrough
@JoshuaKimbrough 2 жыл бұрын
Particularly the Northern Irish/Belfast accent. Dubliners don't sound like her
@datgaydangernoodle1315
@datgaydangernoodle1315 2 жыл бұрын
*noye just stab me noye*
@jimmers123
@jimmers123 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is I still can't honestly hear it. Just sounds like "stab me now" to me, but that could be due to my Philly accent.
@lonjohnson5161
@lonjohnson5161 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaKimbrough She looks Irish, but I think I heard her mention once that she lives in the UK. Northern Ireland fits that, but in all honesty, I can't really tell. Do you know what the truth is here?
@JoshuaKimbrough
@JoshuaKimbrough 2 жыл бұрын
@@lonjohnson5161 she's from Belfast, some in the North consider themselves to be in the UK and others see it as occupied land but you know the story behind that already
@oricalu448
@oricalu448 Жыл бұрын
I just wanna say, Samus's heels in the zero suit are something that was added later. In the concept art and sprite work for Metroid: Zero Mission, her heels are barely there at all, basically just being a regular boot. But for some reason, in the univerally hated Metroid: Other M, and later, smash bros, they gave her ridiculous heels.
@costby1105
@costby1105 Жыл бұрын
Blame Tecmo on that one. The concept art for the Zero Suit in Zero mission explicitly says not to give too much height.
@j.schmitt220
@j.schmitt220 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Princess Leia's Slave Costume was an homage to Frank Frazetta (one of the greatest fantasy artists ever). George Lukas was a huge fan of Frazetta and wanted to honor him by putting a typical pose of a Frazetta artwork in his movies. That is why Leia is clinging onto Luke before they swing off Jabba's hovercraft, because it basically looked like an artpiece done by Frazetta. Same goes for the costume. Frazetta would very often and very prominently feature barely clad women in his artwork (as well as barely clad men). To go even one step deeper: Even the artwork for the movie posters (the iconic one were Luke holds his lightsaber aloft) were highly influenced by Frazetta. There you go =)
@tinyprince
@tinyprince Жыл бұрын
Shame we didn't get slave bikini Luke. 😩
@elinquisidorperseverante6835
@elinquisidorperseverante6835 Жыл бұрын
@@tinyprince HELL YEAH, GIVE ME THAT!
@Oliver-Lewis
@Oliver-Lewis Жыл бұрын
"slave costume" not actually armour and i doubt ever intended to be as such
@paultapping9510
@paultapping9510 Жыл бұрын
how did I never know this? Like, I'm aware of Frazetta's work, and it never occured to me Leia's costume was a concious homage.
@AndyZach
@AndyZach Жыл бұрын
It's obvious once you point it out. It's probably much the same for Conan the Barbarian and Arnold's outfit.
@doughudgens9275
@doughudgens9275 2 жыл бұрын
When the “Corridor Crew” had a stuntwoman on she mentioned how they were expected to perform in heels, skimpy costumes that couldn’t hide padding, and things that made their job much riskier than stuntmen.
@Vesperitis
@Vesperitis 2 жыл бұрын
Also more costumes/skirts that didn't cover the legs, so no kneepads and a lot more scrapes.
@Ailieorz
@Ailieorz 2 жыл бұрын
And they have to be really thin to match the actresses body shapes so they can't even build muscle to help cushion blows.
@julietfischer5056
@julietfischer5056 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ailieorz- Or a bit of fat. (Roman gladiators were a bit chunky for that reason, and so they could bleed dramatically from shallow-ish cuts.)
@cdogthehedgehog6923
@cdogthehedgehog6923 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah stunt women usually have it a lot riskier for the same stunts as stuntmen. But you are forgetting the most riskiest; stuntmen stuntdoubleing for women in heels and skimpy costumes. See black widow's double in the first avengers movie lol
@Stettafire
@Stettafire 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ailieorz My mum hurt her arm and the doc outright told her she needed some fat to help cushion falls etc as she got older. Not too much but ya shouldn't be super skinny either cus the fat helps protect your joints
@thrownswordpommel7393
@thrownswordpommel7393 2 жыл бұрын
Love how Eowyn's armour is the best here, given that she's wearing a suit made for a man
@SharmClucas
@SharmClucas 2 жыл бұрын
You could possibly put Samus in the same category, since in the first game no one knew her gender until the very end and assumed she was male. I think a lot of this problem could be solved by getting women who haven't been drowned in male gaze culture to design more of these costumes. If you look at the difference between female characters in AAA games and female characters in Indie games you can see a hint of what that world would look like. It's pretty cool.
@mildlifeisatrisk5727
@mildlifeisatrisk5727 2 жыл бұрын
Quit the bad ass 👑
@grimlock1471
@grimlock1471 2 жыл бұрын
@@SharmClucas not a gamer. Which group are you suggesting is better about getting it right?
@seanheath4492
@seanheath4492 2 жыл бұрын
@@grimlock1471 Probably indie games. Plenty of cheesecakey goodness to be found in both indie and AAA, though.
@jasonblalock4429
@jasonblalock4429 2 жыл бұрын
@@SharmClucas The Elder Scrolls games are usually good about giving women viable armor which isn't too fanservicey. The only major exception I can think of are the Dark Seducers and, well, it's right there in the name. They're deliberately going for sex appeal. Not to mention working in the service of a complete madman, which can be used to handwave *so much.*
@trexrising4097
@trexrising4097 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I was pleasantly surprised by this video. I thought it would just be a typical "sexy out-fit bad" video like so many I've come across before. But you didn't write them off completely, and even offered thoughtful and informative criticism for even the more armored outfits. You just earned yourself a subscriber. Looking forward to more of your content.
@ezradlionel711
@ezradlionel711 2 жыл бұрын
It isn't? Samus can roll herself into a ball but the zero suit isn't some "alien alloy"? I wanted to sub because she does seem insightful but some of the critiques just feel petty and based more on whether she could pull it off rather than if she would wear it.
@guyanesegal3166
@guyanesegal3166 2 жыл бұрын
@@ezradlionel711 She is trying to relate fantasy to real life. Which is why most of her subscribers are radical feminists
@ezradlionel711
@ezradlionel711 2 жыл бұрын
@@guyanesegal3166 lol. I'm from St. Lucia.
@insomniagobrrr5542
@insomniagobrrr5542 Жыл бұрын
@@ezradlionel711 the zero suit is basically high-tech long johns with some USBs
@sjdess
@sjdess Жыл бұрын
Agreed, but it is also fair game to criticize the unneeded sexualisation of female characters where it happens.
@TrioSonata
@TrioSonata 2 жыл бұрын
With how much flipping around, traveling/sleeping on the ground, and straight up seduction killing Xena does, I don't blame her for opting for leather armor. It does not help that she can LITERALLY beat gods and demigods in fights. She has no fucks to give.
@tetsatou2815
@tetsatou2815 2 жыл бұрын
I would also note that despite wearing the Its-Not-Actually-Armor slave dancing getup, Leia does successfully choke the ever loving shit out of one of the most feared crime lords in the galaxy, so I feel like that's a plus.
@Kai-Xi
@Kai-Xi 2 жыл бұрын
If nothing else, it does provide freedom of movement for all your Hutt strangling needs
@Lee-zc1qz
@Lee-zc1qz 2 жыл бұрын
Dressed to humiliate and control her, and she responds by literally strangling the offender to death, ending the biggest slaver on Tatooine. Someone made her biological grandmother and father very, very proud that day.
@madderandmadder
@madderandmadder 2 жыл бұрын
She's called Huttslayer in some parts of the galaxy in some of the newer novels (alas, I cannot remember which), and I love that for her.
@Ghilannugs
@Ghilannugs 2 жыл бұрын
leia for sure put some force power behind that choke I can feel it
@jetblack99
@jetblack99 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. She's is fetching in the outfit to be sure, but Jabba made the mistake of thinking he could subjugate one of the toughest women in the galaxy by putting her in a bikini. And then she killed him. HAHA. Loser. Leia rules forever.
@hanshotfirst6488
@hanshotfirst6488 2 жыл бұрын
I lost it when Jill's response to the Golden Space Bikini was "At least she gets proper footwear".
@guardrailbiter
@guardrailbiter 2 жыл бұрын
Jabba the Hut's lair was known to have cold stone floors. So boots were quite necessary. ;-p
@evat8147
@evat8147 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree that the first set of Susan’s armor is better, but there was actually reasoning behind why she has less protection in the second set. She wears the latter when they infiltrate the castle, which is supposed to be a stealth mission, hence the absence of loud metal materials, such as chain mail. If you look closely, none of boys are wearing their normal metal armor either - all the characters switched to quieter leather instead. And I don’t believe that her skirt is actually longer in that outfit, but is unfortunately placed on a shorter mannequin for the picture. But I loved the video, please do more! I really enjoy hearing your experienced thoughts on each set of armor :)
@Warriormon87
@Warriormon87 2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason she is wearing wedge heeled boots, but they make an active effort to hide them in most shots. Is because the character she is playing is supposed to be much taller than she is. Because wonder woman in the comics is 5' 11" and but 5'8" is 95 percentile for women. Meaning wonder woman is far off the chart taller than most women. The wedges are the director's way of making her taller without having to resort to Tom Cruise tricks.
@notstonks20
@notstonks20 2 жыл бұрын
Gal Gadot is already 5' 10", maybe they're going for 6'?
@Warriormon87
@Warriormon87 2 жыл бұрын
@@notstonks20 176 cm or 5' 9 1/4" but close enough.
@Warriormon87
@Warriormon87 2 жыл бұрын
@@notstonks20 176 cm or 5' 9 1/4" but close enough.
@Ailieorz
@Ailieorz 2 жыл бұрын
They also could have just cast someone taller, but of course it's all about the face
@oxybrightdark8765
@oxybrightdark8765 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ailieorz they could have hired a shorter actor for wolverine.
@pyrosianheir
@pyrosianheir 2 жыл бұрын
So... outside of the fun with the armors, I hadn't realized until this that there was a difference between vambraces and bracers! I'd thought they were interchangeable terms!! So thanks for that, Jill! :D
@maddie9602
@maddie9602 2 жыл бұрын
I have also learned a thing today! I thought bracers was literally just short for vambraces.
@JohnW-yv6yp
@JohnW-yv6yp 2 жыл бұрын
Same, I used the terms interchangeably before, thought they both completely encircled the forearm.
@F14thunderhawk
@F14thunderhawk 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnW-yv6yp theres a ton of conflicting information of what part of the arm assembly is the Bracer and Vambrace. Generally ive seen Vambrace either is the upper armor, or the arm assembly not including gauntlet and pauldron.
@marc-andrerenaud1394
@marc-andrerenaud1394 2 жыл бұрын
Here's a fun fact for the burgeoning armour buff who also likes to learn links between words. Vambraces stem from a shortened form of the french term for forearm "avant-bras", hence why vambraces are the name of forearm protection.
@pwnmeisterage
@pwnmeisterage 2 жыл бұрын
I think the definitions and differences depend on which sources are preferred. French armourers didn't universally agree on exactly what "vambraces" were. Other armourers from other countries used other terms. Everybody followed the best of popular/functional patterns but each craftsman imposed his own variations and style. And the armour itself kept evolving, your "vambraces" might be quite unlike the "vambraces" worn by your father.
@TheTaintedWisdom
@TheTaintedWisdom 2 жыл бұрын
14:11 - I appreciate the categorization of Zero Suit Samus as "Not Actually Armor" since it genuinely isn't. I like to think that it's skin-tight because it's meant to act as a bridge between her nerves and the suit. i.e. the Zero Suit reads the electrical signals traveling through her nerves and moves the suit accordingly, rather than moving each plate and piece physically. Sort of like how the Power Armor works in the Fallout universe. However, the rocket shoes are purely a product of the Smash Bros games (much like the emergency pistol acting like an energy whip) she never wore shoes on top of her Zero Suit, let alone _heels_ in a Metroid game.
@platiuscyndar9017
@platiuscyndar9017 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the zero suit looks like it's intended as an interface. It's as much armor as, say, a gambeson would be as part of a mail armor for instance. It's arguably an integral part of the armor, but it's not THE WHOLE THING. The fact she wears it under her armor also explains why it's skin-tight, as it both has to ensure it doesn't get stuck anywhere and the actual power armor's interior likely is skin-tight as well, to stuff as much weaponry and armor into it as possible.
@Hyperversum3
@Hyperversum3 2 жыл бұрын
@@platiuscyndar9017 I mean, if I am not wrong, the Zero Suit is also tailor-made for her and nobody could use It. Samus has freaking alien DNA in her body to begin with
@schwarzerritter5724
@schwarzerritter5724 2 жыл бұрын
Samus wore heals in Other M. People usually don't bring them up, because all the other dumb things in the game overshadow them.
@FreelanceGenie
@FreelanceGenie 2 жыл бұрын
I think you guys're overthinking it. The Zero Suit isn't armor, or part of her armor. It's underwear. She used to wear a bikini or tight shorts underneath her power suit. The Zero Suit is just her redesigned futuristic looking underwear. I really don't think there's anything more to it.
@FreelanceGenie
@FreelanceGenie 2 жыл бұрын
@@DingDingTheKZbinBuddy Fair enough. For all I know, even though she used to just wear regular underwear under the suit, maybe the devs intended for the redesign to add more lore to her outfit. Who knows?
@thegardenofeatin5965
@thegardenofeatin5965 2 жыл бұрын
Something about the Leia bikini outfit. Years ago, mostly for "She's young and pretty and now you can see a lot of her" reasons I joined a facebook group about this costume, which collated anything from frames of Return of the Jedi to promotional magazine photos for the movie, candids from the set (a notable one was Carrie Fisher and her stunt double, both in costume sunning themselves on the Jabba's Barge set) and various cosplayers in their interpretations of the outfit. And one weird thing stood out to me. In promotional pictures from the 80's with Carrie Fisher in costume, she NEVER had the collar and chain on. Like the shot shown in this video. But it's a detail cosplayers ALWAYS wear. That's one of those weird patterns I tend to notice.
@vaulthunterfromterra4053
@vaulthunterfromterra4053 2 жыл бұрын
Samus’ Zero-Suit is more of like an anti-chafing piece for when she’s in her mech. Although, with how advanced it’s supposed to be, I’d imagine it probably has some kind of chemical protection as well as heat/cold/radiation shielding.
@llewelynshingler2173
@llewelynshingler2173 Жыл бұрын
So a space gambeson?
@mill2712
@mill2712 Жыл бұрын
I think it could also be cut and stab proof. Probably ballistics as well. We are experimenting with such materials today so it would surprise me if it was perfected by her time.
@SpikedKirby
@SpikedKirby Жыл бұрын
@@llewelynshingler2173 more like space suit undergarments
@rustkarl
@rustkarl Жыл бұрын
Nah that’s the Varia Suit’s function.
@nirestrunk4923
@nirestrunk4923 2 жыл бұрын
Soooo happy you added the "Not actually armor" section. I know lots of people who would just argue " stfu this is fantasy, who cares!"- but by adding that section I think it would encourage people to actually think and care about arming their women.
@k.v.7681
@k.v.7681 2 жыл бұрын
It always annoys me in games, takes me out of it. The "fantasy" argument is very poor. There is soooo much that can be done for both men and women in terms of armor (I equally despise the bulky over the top male armors. Those aren't pauldrons or gauntlets, they're a month's worth of wordwide steel production...).
@cedriceric9730
@cedriceric9730 2 жыл бұрын
@@k.v.7681 True 😂😂
@diamondminer5459
@diamondminer5459 2 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, it is just fantasy and artists are free to do whatever they want. You can criticize them, but don’t take it too seriously.
@tonypeppermint5329
@tonypeppermint5329 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah.
@anonymousfellow8879
@anonymousfellow8879 2 жыл бұрын
@@diamondminer5459 NAH. Not when there’s a clear divide: -women are literally naked, have Hit Windows straight to flesh, or Pushup Boob Plate (and still a Hit Window deflecting hits straight to a woman’s sternum) -mine’s worth of Bulky Power Fantasy for men. Even if it’s Light Armor they’re STILL fully covered… *in the same gd universe*
@virginiamooney4105
@virginiamooney4105 2 жыл бұрын
I was watching one of your older videos, where you said you were looking forward to getting the qualifications needed to be called an Actor Combatant. And now you introduce yourself as an Actor Combatant! Idk when they happened but look at you go!! Congrats.
@beauclausen441
@beauclausen441 2 жыл бұрын
I went down a google rabbit hole trying to figure out the difference between bracers and vambraces and I am very pleased to learn that I managed to come up with the right answer! Thank you Jill for that explanation, it was much simpler than what I found!
@HD-gz2ge
@HD-gz2ge 2 жыл бұрын
God I’m so happy this is a legitimate critique of armor for women, instead of judging who looks the sexiest, or hating on women looking feminine bc of some political thing. It’s helped a lot in learning how these things work, and the differences between armor for men and women, especially when that stuff is in short supply. Great video, 10/10, would recommend.
@JSHADOWM
@JSHADOWM 2 жыл бұрын
14:13 Thats actually the NON-CANON version of the Zero Suit. the actual one has no heels. its also not supposed to be worn alone. its both the under layer of the power suit and it appears to be the interactivity layer between samus and the mobility/weapons systems of her suit: basically the zero suit catches the motion she is doing and feeds it to the servomotors of the 300 kilogram walking tank she pilots in mission, or in the case of her arm cannon reads the gestures she is doing and interprets them to "Switch cannon to Beam/Missile/Grapple mode"
@Soulferno
@Soulferno 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, the rocket boots she wears in Smash are more akin to straight up stilettos. But she does wear a form of heels or I think sort of like platform shoes in the suit normally. You could even argue the power suit has these platform shoe like design to the boots
@platiuscyndar9017
@platiuscyndar9017 2 жыл бұрын
@@Soulferno …but at the point where the armor has these boots it's really not that big of a deal anymore. The problem with platform boots and such is usually that you can easily hurt your foot through a wrong step, for instance. If your armor is a 300 kilogram mechanized tank that moves for you, I don't think that that is nearly as big of a problem as the armor likely wouldn't allow such a misstep and even if it did ocurr likely has systems in place to ensure your foot isn't hurt, or can recover easily.
@Soulferno
@Soulferno 2 жыл бұрын
@@platiuscyndar9017 I never said it was an issue. It really doesn't matter to Samus since she's incredibly fit and acrobatic. Enough to where if she wore giant platform shoes they wouldn't even slow her down, it'd just give her extra kicking power
@platiuscyndar9017
@platiuscyndar9017 2 жыл бұрын
@@Soulferno Alright, then I missunderstood you, sorry. You're right.
@AmelpsXett
@AmelpsXett 2 жыл бұрын
nerd
@TJDious
@TJDious 2 жыл бұрын
Asgardian and Amazon armor is like 50% glitz and glam so the silliness doesn't bug me much.
@metronicmagician1816
@metronicmagician1816 2 жыл бұрын
Also with how fantastical the settings are for those areas it’s easily waved off as “fantasy/sci-fi mumbo jumbo” so long as basic ideas aren’t bastardize for looks at least (looking at you justice league amazons).
@sophiejones3554
@sophiejones3554 2 жыл бұрын
right... except Sif's outfit there isn't glamorous. I'd have forgiven them for inaccuracies if it at least looked epic, but it looks like they were trying for realism...and then just, failed. It doesn't even look particularly Norse either. Norse women wore these sweet shoulder brooches, often with chains hanging between them. I would have made an upper chest plate that looked something like that. A plate corset thing is...fine. But if you're going to do that, then make the most of it: give her an epic mail dress. Corsets increase the maximum weight of the clothing a woman can wear considerably. She's supposed to be a gosh-darn Valkyrie. Her look is just disappointing, from both an aesthetic and a realism perspective.
@SobiTheRobot
@SobiTheRobot 2 жыл бұрын
Plus they're kind of indestructible to begin with so armor doesn't mean all that much
@metronicmagician1816
@metronicmagician1816 2 жыл бұрын
@@SobiTheRobot I mean not really. For the average Amazon we see them get downed by world war 1 bullets, and for the average Asgard we see them get taken down by the average mundane weapon or device every now and then, and they have their own weapons that are probably built to fight beings as strong as them.
@sophiejones3554
@sophiejones3554 2 жыл бұрын
​@@DingDingTheKZbinBuddy eh idk. The main point still stands thoug: her armor wasn't cool enough to justify the impracticality, or practical enough to justify the un-coolness. It also wasn't Norse enough.
@razielhamalakh9813
@razielhamalakh9813 2 жыл бұрын
I was worried when you got to Xena, but I'm glad to hear someone acknowledge that she's wearing this _all the time._ In Greece. It's hot and humid. Yeah, the skirt could be longer, but overall I agree with the assessment.
@IAmBael
@IAmBael 2 жыл бұрын
I like how clear it is that you're an actual expert of what constitutes "functional protective gear". If I was rating these, it would just be "I can see skin, this is bad" and "she's clearly fully protected, I can only see her face". 😂
@wakrusgumbo
@wakrusgumbo 2 жыл бұрын
In fairness to Zero Suit Samus: that's what she wears under her actual armor, right? It's like, mechagambeson.
@Karak-_-
@Karak-_- 2 жыл бұрын
I can inagine it being some in-between layer/full body interface designed to be wearable separetedly.
@archygrey9093
@archygrey9093 2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@NL-X
@NL-X 2 жыл бұрын
correct. Her armor is the Chozo Power Suit
@schwarzerritter5724
@schwarzerritter5724 2 жыл бұрын
Correct, the zero suit is a plugsuit. It reads her nerve signals and the ret spots on the zero suit are actually where it connects to the power suit. The spots on the back are the main connection, because they are the biggest one. The spots on the chest connect to the life support, because that is where writers think the heart is. Because the hand of the power suit requires more fine dexterity, the left hand has its own plugs. Notice the right hand does not have connectors? It is because the arm cannon has a trigger. You can see Samus moving her finger when using the X-Ray scope. I suppose so she can still shoot, even if the direct connection should fail for some reason. The jet heels are only worn in a joke game.
@FreelanceGenie
@FreelanceGenie 2 жыл бұрын
@@schwarzerritter5724 I'm pretty sure that nothing you said is actually confirmed in game, or by the devs anywhere.
@JCLeSinge
@JCLeSinge 2 жыл бұрын
Morgana in Excalibur: Yeah, "Not actually armour". She never takes the battlefield and never wears this in combat. Literally just lays about in her tent for the one night she wears this. And do watch Excalibur; armour, swords, jousting, it's great. Aside from the use of aluminium armour, it's hard to find much fault.
@Valdagast
@Valdagast 2 жыл бұрын
Great use of music.
@AnkhAnanku
@AnkhAnanku 2 жыл бұрын
Boorman delivered some truly eerie moments that just stick with you
@bunhelsingslegacy3549
@bunhelsingslegacy3549 2 жыл бұрын
Actors like aluminium armour, the armour shop I work for made a suit of armour that would have been 60-70 lbs if it had been steel for the 80-year-old who had to wear it. He was very appreciative of his 20 lb suit of full plate! However, it was finished by the set artists so that nobody could tell it was aluminium.
@Valdagast
@Valdagast 2 жыл бұрын
@@bunhelsingslegacy3549 I would probably also like aluminum armor if I had to wear it and didn't depend on it for protection.
@MyNameIsBucket
@MyNameIsBucket 2 жыл бұрын
Still quite impractical for the intended function. Can you imagine the chafing?
@Yvaelle
@Yvaelle 2 жыл бұрын
Xena's armor is Pretty Good or I"d Wear It IMO: 1) Xena needs to strike a balance that many others on this list don't. She literally lives in this outfit, every day she wears this same outfit. She didn't buy this armor specifically to go into a battle. She didn't equip more armor expecting a fight today. When you go to bed wearing Pyjamas, Xena's wearing armor. When you put on some comfy exercise clothes, Xena exercises in her armor. You're critiquing her day wear as much as her armor, comfort and fashion both count for Xena where they don't for someone donning armor specifically for a fight. 2) Xena isn't really protected by her armor, she's a demi-god warrior-princess who dices through mortals and superhumans alike. If she dies, it'll be the trickery of a god, or an arrow to her mortal heel. She's shrugged off sword strikes to her bare skin before - so her armor isn't really to stop sword so much as discourage them from trying to hit her. She's sending a message that she's wearing high quality armor, but also that she doesn't need armor, because she's not to be fucked with. 3) Xena's real goal is not to protect herself from an attack, it's to fulfill Gabrielle's Dominatrix fantasy. As a Greek demigod she doesn't really need armor, but she does have an innate superhuman horniness, as all Greek gods did, and that means when she walks into town, she needs every subsmissive lesbian to twirl on their heels and salivate at the sight of her. Where her skin is exposed is intentional - hence her boob window, rollerderby thigh definition, and arms that clearly need no man to open her pickle jars.
@zSpirall
@zSpirall Жыл бұрын
...I love xena...
@godlypineapples
@godlypineapples Жыл бұрын
this comment is pure gold
@m.dave2141
@m.dave2141 9 ай бұрын
So for a mere mortal it's a bad armor right? I heard a good argument in favor of this armor tho and that is that is mixed with vibranium, so that make sense but still, no helmet and no gauntlets, still kinda bad even tho it looks amazing
@m.dave2141
@m.dave2141 9 ай бұрын
Also those neck rings can be easily split appart with most slash/piercing weapons, a hammers would still crush your neck
@Amadeo790
@Amadeo790 2 жыл бұрын
Zero suit Samus Jump suit was never meant to be used in combat so the “it’s not armor” is a very obvious choice. In fact, the only time I remember were you okay with it is in a survival stealth segment we’re anything can one shot you.
@MonkeyWhoWouldBeKing
@MonkeyWhoWouldBeKing 2 жыл бұрын
so, my thing with Susan's armour is that there are a lot of buckles across her chest and in a high pressure situation, those are just asking to catch the string. best case it fucks up her shot, worst case, that could damage the bow which is her primary weapon atm :S edit: you will see competition archers with a triangle buckled across their chest sometimes. it's a very smooth fabric (with the buckles as far from central as possible) there to help the string slide off if it does hit the chest)
@dragonfly4874
@dragonfly4874 2 жыл бұрын
One thing to note about Susan's bow is that it's magical. I don't remember if they actually go into it in the movie, but when using that bow she cannot miss her target, this might be a possible explanation for the stupid thrown arrow as they are a set but I doubt it. I also assume the magic properties make it difficult or impossible to damage, along with her horn which bounced around for hundreds of years without being broken, but I don't really know.
@AnkhAnanku
@AnkhAnanku 2 жыл бұрын
The triangle you mention reminds me of something you see in anime when a woman is practicing archery. “Muneate” they call it. For some reason I think of a male version that attaches to a tight sleeve on the bow-arm but the diagrams I see have the guy leaving that exact area bare skin…
@chrisrudolf9839
@chrisrudolf9839 2 жыл бұрын
Those triangle pieces are mostly worn by tournament arches who use recurve bows and sometimes also longbows, i.e. bows with a flat string angle, where the string is likely to touch your chest when the bow is fully drawn (with the hand to your face), so you need to make sure it slides away from the chest smoothly and doesn't catch on the fabric. Susan's bow is rather short and thus has a steep string angle when fully drawn, it should normally not touch the chest.
@MonkeyWhoWouldBeKing
@MonkeyWhoWouldBeKing 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisrudolf9839 this is true. its maybe not quite a horse bow but still, i think that many buckles are still pushing it xD
@Zisteau
@Zisteau 2 жыл бұрын
A bit surprised you haven't seen Excalibur, given the armor and swordfighting theme of your videos.
@gordon861
@gordon861 2 жыл бұрын
Just came down here to post the same, it is very much worth seeing and there is a lot of armour.
@ducklinsenmayer7681
@ducklinsenmayer7681 2 жыл бұрын
@@gordon861 And to be fair, Morgan's outfit isn't armor at all, she's a sorceress/ evil fey
@talefey
@talefey 2 жыл бұрын
I tried watching Excalibur but, at the beginning of the film, the whole wizard-helps-raider-rape-a-woman-in-front-of-her-daughter-so-that-he-can-kidnap-the-future-offspring-for-the-supposed-greater-good thing was just a bit too much for me.
@krontaur
@krontaur 2 жыл бұрын
Zisteau in the wild?! XD
@simontmn
@simontmn 2 жыл бұрын
@@talefey Uther comes to a sticky end, & later on the daughter (Morgana) rapes the offspring (Arthur) too.
@AgFalcon84
@AgFalcon84 2 жыл бұрын
Oh lord. Word of advice: never play the Monster Hunter series. The male Hunters get lovely protective armor and the lady hunters get... flesh gaps in the inner thighs, boob windows, bare midriffs... for fighting large aggressive creatures with multiple stabby bits and very sharp teeth and claws that can spit fire and acid and just NO.
@user-kn3yk3jn5e
@user-kn3yk3jn5e 2 жыл бұрын
Japanese RPG, what do you want......
@AgFalcon84
@AgFalcon84 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-kn3yk3jn5e What do I want? At least equal opportunity fan-service? Or is it too much to ask to treat the women characters with the same respect as the men?
@opano4116
@opano4116 2 жыл бұрын
@@AgFalcon84 i guess it depends on the specific anime, ive seen some with alot of man meat hanging out jojo's pillar men for example
@seasnaill2589
@seasnaill2589 2 жыл бұрын
@@AgFalcon84 I, for one, am all for equal opportunity fanservice. Boob/pec windows and midriffs for all genders!
@marcusaaronliaogo9158
@marcusaaronliaogo9158 2 жыл бұрын
@@AgFalcon84 kirin male armor be like
@HiltownJoe
@HiltownJoe 2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to the Klingons I would address two points. One, the Klingons are not exaclty egalitarian. So while being wariorish, the women are not warriors and not equal to men. The other point is hubris. It would suit a klingon well to intentionally wear less armor to basically show off that they need less protection in a battle because they are such fierce warriors. Quite frankly I am surprised that some of them don't go into battle naked just to humiliate their opponents.
@alexanderhenry9831
@alexanderhenry9831 2 жыл бұрын
Lursa and B'etor are not warriors, and klingon society is not egalitarian... but it's misleading to imply that klingon society considers 'warrior' and 'woman' to be mutually exclusive. Women make up a measurable portion of most of the Klingon crews we see, and it seems like full tunic vs. cleavage armor is on the same level of personal choice as the bare arms, furred sleeves, or armored sleeves.
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 2 жыл бұрын
Eh, I would just have put their outfits into the "not actually armour" category. It's fashion designed to give the implication of armour, because militarism is en vogue in their society, but it's not actually supposed to be worn into battle. There are historical examples on Earth too: Women who have taken the style of men's riding outfits or military uniforms and transferred them onto women's clothing without intending to join the cavalry. It's just fashion.
@maribeld84
@maribeld84 2 жыл бұрын
I never thought Carie Fisher's bikini was meant to be armour. That's when she's kidnapped by Jabba the Hut. Isn't she meant to just be eye candy chained to him?
@vacri54
@vacri54 2 жыл бұрын
You mean you don't like your dancing slave girls to be protected from attack?
@whiteraven181
@whiteraven181 2 жыл бұрын
@@vacri54 If your decorative slave girls can't actually act as elite, final-line-of-defense bodyguards what's even the point?
@SvendleBerries
@SvendleBerries 2 жыл бұрын
@@whiteraven181 "Machinegun jubblies? How'd I miss those, baby?" - Austin Powers
@destroyerinazuma96
@destroyerinazuma96 3 ай бұрын
Yup. Not armour to me either. Though since ppl like to crack joked, when modders made the costume available in the Oblivion videogame, there was a version that counted as light armor and another that counted as clothing. Also channels like Viva la dirt league have repeatedly made fun of what's presented as "armour" in fantasy.
@HeartlandHunny
@HeartlandHunny 2 жыл бұрын
I love everything about this video. One of my biggest pet peeves in Hollywood movies is when they’re all “Ra! Ra! Women Warriors!” But then put them in “armor” where there heart is completely exposed to stabbing! Also, bonus points for understanding that while, sure, Carrie Fisher in a metal bikini definitely moved ticket sales, it was also good storytelling. How do you show this woman you’ve established as confident and composed even in the face of Darth Vader is now in a vulnerable and life-threatening situation? Being stripped of her traditionally modest and diplomatic “armor” shows how powerless she is in this situation. Until she literally uses the chains binding her to kill her captor. Man, OG Leia was cool!
@rsacchi100
@rsacchi100 2 жыл бұрын
"That is my least vulnerable spot." - 2 points for knowing the reference.
@tonypeppermint5329
@tonypeppermint5329 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah.
@rory8182
@rory8182 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the bit with the Klingons like it is amazing armour but there is a damn window in it
@hypothalapotamus5293
@hypothalapotamus5293 2 жыл бұрын
@@rory8182 Contrary to popular belief, Klingons aren't a warrior race. They're just cosplayers pretending to be a warrior race. ^_^ Anyone who disagrees with me needs to explain how, in a galaxy filled with humanoids so strong that they can rip you in half with their bare hands (e.g. Vulcans and Romulans) and handheld devices with the firepower of a 155 mm howitzer, it's a good idea for a roughly human strength species to rush an enemy with knives and questionably functional swords. In comparison, the supposedly peaceful Federation forces are badass. Sure, they have member races that are 3 or 4 times stronger than humans, but they'll just shoot you like professionals.
@bagelized
@bagelized Жыл бұрын
Lmao you do realize that the reason the director had that story implemented in the first place was probably to put her in bikini?
@onethousandwords
@onethousandwords 2 жыл бұрын
8:42 Ha ha, your exceptional effort to not be horrified is hilarious. This was so enjoyable. I've never seen armor costumes broken down with this much detail and it was fun to watch, too! Happy to have found you!
@taitano12
@taitano12 2 жыл бұрын
"Just stab me now" was the whole point of Klingon female armor. Stab being both euphemistic and literal.
@BeforeBalloons
@BeforeBalloons 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder Woman's armor: I'd think the safe assumption would be that the weird scaley material is just Sufficiently Advanced Mail. What bugs me is the random gaps in the plates of her leg armor. They just seem so... unnecessary, and like they're begging for an arrow or dagger to get wedged between them and the soft armor. I also can't help but imagine the little center pointy bits on the segmentation of her waist armor just folding outward as soon as she tries to bend her waist, creating gaps and putting a bunch of hooks on her stomach to snag on... Charmed valkyries: Not familiar with Charmed, but my immediate impression from the pictures is that their culture has decided that bits and pieces of armor are very fashionable decorations, like jewelry. A comparison could be made to camo-pattern clothes and accessories in the casual clothing context of nowadays.
@jgobea0188
@jgobea0188 2 жыл бұрын
Ur pfp is creepy asf
@BeforeBalloons
@BeforeBalloons 2 жыл бұрын
@@jgobea0188 cool!
@francescafrancesca3554
@francescafrancesca3554 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't thought about the jewelry thing, but makes sense. Thank for sharing it!!
@tonypeppermint5329
@tonypeppermint5329 2 жыл бұрын
Huh.
@anonymousfellow8879
@anonymousfellow8879 2 жыл бұрын
It’s just cheesecake.
@IMVADER2
@IMVADER2 2 жыл бұрын
Samus' armor is so badass, and I love that it's stuck in a similar style all these years. Extremely identifiable in terms of character design, and not many things pull off that orange/copper/brass look as well as that armor does. Not the biggest fan of Scifi Armor, but if I had to choose, it would be in my top 2.
@4wheal
@4wheal 2 жыл бұрын
So what do you think of her new base suite in Dread or even the fusion suit? I'm asking as they go a slightly more organic look and are more blue and white then the normal orange.
@chrisgaming1286
@chrisgaming1286 2 жыл бұрын
Doomslayer armour is the best sci fi armour
@DerCharacter
@DerCharacter 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisgaming1286 For the Doomslayer the praetor armor is the best, in some versions the arms are exposed so that may be a problem in some scenerios if it's a different person wearing it. But it's still a really awesome suit. Especially with all the addons they made in Eternal
@nesyboi9421
@nesyboi9421 2 жыл бұрын
I like a lot of sci-fi armor, Spartan IIIs and ODSTs from Halo come to mind
@Centuries_of_Nope
@Centuries_of_Nope 2 жыл бұрын
I like how this is less of a demonization video and more of a design principle video. Obviously the "fantasy" material doesn't work, but that doesn't mean there aren't components that can be looked a critically. There is also plenty of armor that looks like it would work just fine, but in reality, is terrible. My only criticism is with zero suit Samus. Her outfit is that way for legitimate reasons. The shoes though, yes, can't stand them. They should be combat boots if anything.
@christianeckert8573
@christianeckert8573 Жыл бұрын
You are entertaining to watch, I have a huge interest in armor especially gothic plate and your critiques of the armor are accurate and amusing
@andrewbraddock5101
@andrewbraddock5101 2 жыл бұрын
I'll never be able to suspend my disbelief on any woman doing intense combat/running in heels
@Eloraurora
@Eloraurora 2 жыл бұрын
I think someone (maybe Buzzfeed?) did a video a while back testing the viability of running in high heels, where they put an athlete in heels and threw her on a treadmill. It kind of worked, because forefoot striking is a thing, but I don't doubt that any lateral/cutting motion would put you in the hospital in short order.
@AndrewBlack343
@AndrewBlack343 2 жыл бұрын
_Running_ in heals should be relatively easy as you're on your toes to run anyway. How to defeat a woman in heals is to battle her on a slope that she has to move down, she'll either have to crab sideways, overly bend her knees and lean backwards in a "I don't have any ability to maneuver anymore" way, or fall or her nose.
@adedow1333
@adedow1333 2 жыл бұрын
@@Eloraurora can confirm. I actually have the skill of being able to run in heels. It totally shifts the way the feet and legs work, offputs balance to a weird angle, and side-stepping is a thing to be feared unless you are completely prepared for it. And you must be completely sure of your footing at all times. Heaven forfend that one should try this on and actual field with divots in the dirt and soft places for your heels to sink into! Or even (gasp) try moving downhill! Heels are not for combat. Not even a little bit.
@anonymousfellow8879
@anonymousfellow8879 2 жыл бұрын
The ONLY woman fighting in heels I can take seriously is Urbosa: short block heels, enclosed toes, ankle straps. And while her clothing is very Stab Me Now -sigh. You would wear lightweight full body fabric in the desert. Why can’t they actually REFERENCE actual arab cultures they’re appropriating with glorified belly dancing costumes?!- she still keeps full mobility and has a decent shield
@wyrmh0le
@wyrmh0le 2 жыл бұрын
@@Eloraurora So it's as if you were captured and they put these terrible spike-shoes on you to limit your mobility so now you have to try to fight and escape without using your heels. Only you made this choice before walking into battle.
@JujYFru1T
@JujYFru1T 2 жыл бұрын
"nothing with wedge heel boots can go in the top tier" yes. thank you. "they have rockets in the heels Jill!!" "I don't care, they're *ugly*" oh my GOD I feel SO VINDICATED in my dislike of Samus's Smash heels
@technoturnovers7072
@technoturnovers7072 2 жыл бұрын
when I saw that render, my FIRST thought was, "why the fuck are they YELLOW?" and then when I read that they were supposed to be rockets, I then thought, "okay, but why is it not connected to the rest of the boots, if it were rockets it needs structural support, that stiletto shit can break off."
@1sdani
@1sdani 2 жыл бұрын
Zero suit with heels wasn't okay when they were wedges in Other M, them becoming rocket stilettos only serves to confirm the dev has zero clue how heels and/or rockets work.
@diamondminer5459
@diamondminer5459 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t think they were that bad. Something about the shape and color actually works for me.
@tyree9055
@tyree9055 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a guy and I'd wear the ridiculous high heels just for the ROCKET BOOTS! 🤣👍 Cool gadgets! 🥰
@donanthebarbarian5177
@donanthebarbarian5177 2 жыл бұрын
@@tyree9055 I'm in a similar position, I wouldn't be caught dead wearing them, but like at the same time I would *ABSOLUTELY* wear them because rocket boots! I'd wear them all the time so long as no one ever saw and recognized me while wearing them, but if there's a chance someone would see and recognize me in them just kill me now, preferably in a manner that renders my body unrecognizable.
@jongkittae
@jongkittae Жыл бұрын
i'm so late to the party but 1000% would love watching you dissect fights from charmed omg
@fluffisaurus7090
@fluffisaurus7090 2 жыл бұрын
A reminder that important characters also have plot armor, so they are protected regardless of what they are wearing.
@kevinbryer2425
@kevinbryer2425 2 жыл бұрын
May I humbly petition that the "not actually armor" category be retitled "weapons of mass distraction"?
@danielleklein5594
@danielleklein5594 2 жыл бұрын
😆 I SECOND THIS!
@Duiker36
@Duiker36 2 жыл бұрын
It's not really a distraction when it's pointing at the massive vulnerability and optimal target for efficient murder.
@kevinbryer2425
@kevinbryer2425 2 жыл бұрын
@@Duiker36 Yeah, but like a tactical retreat, the purpose of the vulnerability is to get ones opponent thinking about something other than efficient murder.
@langletprolet8378
@langletprolet8378 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinbryer2425 Ah, yes. “Something other”, like lust... which could also lead to something worse. It’s interesting concept though not sure how effective it is, since I’ve never seen an IRL unstaged fight with women wearing these fantasy skimpy outfits lol
@maxithalo7796
@maxithalo7796 2 жыл бұрын
I like that you're still giving some of these the benefit of the doubt, like "it could be magic but it still sucks" lmao
@SidheKnight
@SidheKnight 2 жыл бұрын
Re: Xena's armor: Other than the exposed neck/upper chest, I don't think it's that bad. That's because I compare it more with Greek hoplite or early Roman armor than, say, what a medieval knight would wear. All it's missing is a shield.
@GenXJen
@GenXJen Жыл бұрын
Not at all what I was expecting. Thoroughly loved it. I was sure this was going to be a hatefest on female fantasy/rpg outfits, but finished feeling girlgamer love for ya and your entirely accurate assessments. Subscribed and looking forward to exploring your channel.
@happyjohn354
@happyjohn354 2 жыл бұрын
The Zero Suit Samus uses is an bodysuit that protects the user incase the armor is breached anywhere below the neck in a vacuum environment... Its not meant to be armor its basically an emergency space suit... Also supposedly it has other life support functions like a Stillsuit from Dune and supposedly has some life support and healing abilities. But with so many variations from the series its hard to keep track...
@Bluelink13
@Bluelink13 2 жыл бұрын
Yup! And in the one metroid game you play as Samus in the Zero Suit she is super squishy and dies in a hit. It is very much Not Actual Armor
@MisterTwit
@MisterTwit 2 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it's even referred to in canon as "Zero Suit", that's just the name given to describe it. I believe it was more kind of a pun between the title Zero Mission and the fact that it's what she wears when she has "zero suit", or "no suit". Essentially it's space underwear.
@happyjohn354
@happyjohn354 2 жыл бұрын
@@MisterTwit Basically
@teddybacon1483
@teddybacon1483 2 жыл бұрын
Also the boots aren’t cannon thank god
@Soulferno
@Soulferno 2 жыл бұрын
@@teddybacon1483 Why would it be a bad thing if they were? Because of the heels? Even though the Zero suit is designed with heels
@ARDIZsq
@ARDIZsq 2 жыл бұрын
Small additional info: Zero Suit Samus isn’t supposed to be wearing any armor, her zero suit is just meant to help her connect to her power suit. Still fits with the rating of Not Armor, just here for a bit of clarification.
@ezradlionel711
@ezradlionel711 2 жыл бұрын
What's it made of? Obviously the armor is better but more cumbersome. Why wasn't it chalked up to be some alien alloy that could at least absorb some energy weapon fire while increasing mobility plus explain why she can roll into a ball without breaking her spine giving it biological properties as well? It's doubly bothersome when she just glossed over the Dora Milaje who are literally presenting their breasts for vivisection then clowns Samus shoes like that has anything to do with function. In all warfare it's light armor + agility/speed vs slow tank. She just comes off as petty and judging armor by whether she could pull it off regardless of how much she seems to offer objective criticisms. Jill seemed hot at first but just felt like an insecure woman by the end of the video.
@yamatohime2035
@yamatohime2035 2 жыл бұрын
@@ezradlionel711 If I remember right, Samus is stronger, more agile and faster in actual power armor. However, considering how her power armor is attached to her... It would be impossible to judge as armor and more like biomechanic horror.
@kejtov
@kejtov Жыл бұрын
12:30 I'd like to think the Klingon sisters designed thier armor to in fact be invitingly stabby, sort of like a "come and get me if you can" kind of statement. I think that works with their characters.
@koriyoro
@koriyoro 2 жыл бұрын
for zero suit samus i wouldnt consider it armor because its more or less something she wears under the Varia Suit
@CountsDigGraves
@CountsDigGraves 2 жыл бұрын
To the tune of "Don't stop me now".
@rattdonavan
@rattdonavan 2 жыл бұрын
Omfg 😂😂🐁🐀
@mrtalos
@mrtalos 2 жыл бұрын
Tonight I'm gonna have myself a real good time I feel alive And the world I'll turn it inside out, yeah I'm floating around in ecstasy So, (don't stab me now) (Don't stab me) 'Cause I'm having a good time, having a good time I'm a shooting star leaping through the sky Like a tiger defying the laws of gravity I'm a racing car passing by like Lady Godiva I'm gonna go, go, go There's no stabbing me I'm burnin' through the sky, yeah 200 degrees That's why they call me Mrs Fahrenheit I'm travelling at the speed of light I wanna make a supersonic girl out of you I'm having such a good time I'm having a ball (Don't stab me now) If you wanna have a good time just give me a call (Don't stab me now) 'Cause I'm having a good time (Don't stab me now) Yes, I'm havin' a good time I don't want to stab at all Yeah, I'm a rocket ship on my way to Mars On a collision course I am a satellite I'm out of control I am a sex machine ready to reload Like an atom bomb about to Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, explode I'm burnin' through the sky, yeah 200 degrees That's why they call me Mrs Fahrenheit I'm travelling at the speed of light I wanna make a supersonic guy of you Don't stab me, don't stab me Don't stab me, hey, hey, hey Don't stab me, don't stab me Ooh, ooh, ooh, I like it Don't stab me, don't stab me Have a good time, good time Don't stab me, don't stab me, ah Let loose, honey, all right Oh, I'm burnin' through the sky, yeah 200 degrees That's why they call me Mrs Fahrenheit I'm travelling at the speed of light I wanna make a supersonic girl out of you I'm having such a good time I'm having a ball (Don't stab me now) If you wanna have a good time (alright) Just give me a call (Don't stab me now) 'Cause I'm having a good time (Don't stab me now) Yes, I'm havin' a good time I don't want to stab at all La-da-da-da-dah Da-da-da-ha Ha-da-da, ha-ha-ha Ha-da-da, ha-da-da-ah
@maxithalo7796
@maxithalo7796 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm having such a good fight, I'm having a bal- HUH!" *gets stabbed and dies*
@AFLoneWolf
@AFLoneWolf 2 жыл бұрын
@mrtalos Pure. Poetry.
@mrtalos
@mrtalos 2 жыл бұрын
@@AFLoneWolf Thanks, is just copy paste and change a handful of words, but it needed to be done for such a good idea
@LisaGrimm-LG
@LisaGrimm-LG 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the reason why Susan doesn't have her mail in "melee" conditions is because it was supposed to be a stealth mission so they reduced the amount of metal clinging (plus, if you look at Peter and Caspian in that scene, they also don't wear their armour on that mission, so actually Susan in that scene is the most protected of the three). The longer skirt still doesn't make much sense though except for "it looks cool when she flies to the castle" xD
@JillBearup
@JillBearup 2 жыл бұрын
That does make more sense. Still salty about the skirt though 😁
@Corbald
@Corbald 2 жыл бұрын
@@JillBearup An argument could be made that the skirt was long so that her footsteps would be muffled. If she stepped on a dry stick, the skirt would dampen the snap.
@ocadioan
@ocadioan 2 жыл бұрын
@@Corbald Or she would trip on the skirt and fall head first into a pile of dry sticks. Or her skirt could get snatched on some sticks, and they end up scraping along each other.
@Corbald
@Corbald 2 жыл бұрын
@@ocadioan I only said an argument could be made, not that it was an especially _good_ argument! 😆
@tarrker
@tarrker 2 жыл бұрын
Suggests that they didn't have an armorer on hand to consult. The average person would assume that cloth isn't armor at all. Not an unreasonable assumption but, it's simply not true at all. Some of the most comfortable, effective and, quiet armor you can get is just made from cloth. For that matter, what about brigandine? Metal plates suspended in a suit of cloth armor. Layers of cloth can often be impossible to get through and adding steel plates to that makes it even better. :)
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 2 жыл бұрын
Noblemen used to fight in high heels in 17th Century duels. But they were both wearing them so they were both disadvantaged lol
@mattsmith2247
@mattsmith2247 2 жыл бұрын
This is the 1st part of your videos I've seen and as I've been getting more into historical accuracy I really do appreciate what you do here so thank you.
@KacielNolwen
@KacielNolwen 2 жыл бұрын
I could sit here and listen to Jill talk about armour for literal hours.
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 2 жыл бұрын
Especially when she says, "Boob Window", it is like listening to Welsh Women saying "Here", or Scottish Woman saying, "Millions"; a thing of beauty.
@samuelleask1132
@samuelleask1132 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@ihtfp01
@ihtfp01 2 жыл бұрын
You're in luck. She does, across a bunch of videos/platforms.
@datgaydangernoodle1315
@datgaydangernoodle1315 2 жыл бұрын
I hate when people say it's 'armour' but.... IT ONLY COVERS THEIR UPPER CHEST like ik they need protecting but whyyyyyy
@florbfnarb7099
@florbfnarb7099 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of armor only covers part of the body.
@Duiker36
@Duiker36 2 жыл бұрын
@@florbfnarb7099 This is kinda the same mistake that a lot of people make when doing weapon-versus-weapon comparisons. Like weapons, armor exists as a system. (Indeed, weapon+armor is a larger system.) If you're wielding a kite shield in your offhand, then you may very reasonably drop the vambrace on that arm because if something's coming through the shield, it's probably gonna punch through all the way. (There's still an argument to wear it anyways: more layers is always better protection, and redundancy is always a win: but it's reasonable.) It makes sense for you to drop all leg armor if you're a mecha-suit pilot whose lower-half is inside a giant robot but still have an exposed top, but cutting at someone's feet is basically Fighting 102, so either you're relying on pure mobility to save them or you cover that up.
@florbfnarb7099
@florbfnarb7099 2 жыл бұрын
@@Duiker36 - Yeah. I mean, historically, most soldiers have only armored parts of their body, usually the upper torso and head. Greek hoplites had a bronze breastplate, bronze greaves on their forearms, shin guards, a helmet, and a leather fringed skirt; their legs and arms were certainly not encased in full armor like a 13th century European knight. Roman legionary infantrymen were similarly only partially armored. I was an infantryman some 15 years ago, and I too was only partially armored: body armor that had soft Kevlar plates, hard E-SAPI plates for my torso, a hard helmet, and basically a Kevlar nutflap in the front to protect the boys from shrapnel. Full coverage by armor is relatively rare historically, and I don’t expect it to come back until somebody fulfills Tony Stark’s promise and gives us powered armor.
@webbowser8834
@webbowser8834 2 жыл бұрын
I'd also like to contribute to this conversation by stating that there is a SIGNIFICANT difference between lightly covered and bare skin. A proper suit of armor should have fairly limited bare skin, but that doesn't mean you should be covered from head to toe in metal either. Some durable clothing underneath your metal armor can make a world of difference.
@ragnkja
@ragnkja 2 жыл бұрын
@@webbowser8834 Even full plate armour had areas that weren’t completely covered by metal plates, but they’d either be protected by the saddle, shield or lance, or have maille voiders there. For example, suits of armour that were meant for mounted combat only typically didn’t have anything at the back of the thighs, since there’s no way to hit a rider there without going through the thighs or the horse.
@antiv4470
@antiv4470 2 жыл бұрын
Can you analyze the Dark Souls armor? I’ve appreciated the way the games depicts armor sets on the characters. Darkmoon Knightess, Sieglinde of Catarina, and Anri of Astora are really great women in the series!
@leonardo9259
@leonardo9259 2 жыл бұрын
Bc it's too expensive to make basically double the work for women's armor so the body is basically the same It's just men's armor in a character with long hair
@thepancakemann
@thepancakemann Жыл бұрын
I like how Leonardo here replied to your comment with one of his own that had absolutely nothing to do with what you said. Female sets are often unique in DS and we all love them.
@SinfullyHera
@SinfullyHera 2 жыл бұрын
First minute I fell in love with this woman, I’m a sucker for history and historical accuracy in movies when it comes to armour, the use of hauberks, chaises etc. and even some male actors wear very questionable armour, seeing a woman so invested and knowledgable about this topic is absolutely brilliant
@SinfullyHera
@SinfullyHera 2 жыл бұрын
Ah bugger, chausses, not chaises, thanks auto correct.
@fireofdawn3515
@fireofdawn3515 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I like the dragon age games- especially origins where male/female armor is the exact same just moulded differently. 2- hawkes armor is the same regardless of male/female it depends mostly on what class (rogue, fighter, mage) and inquisition where each character has culturally and stylistically unique armor based on class and backstory. The inquisitors armor doesn’t change if they are male/female. I enjoy it
@_zeph
@_zeph 2 жыл бұрын
yes!! while some of the bulkier armors in dao may have looked silly at times, i still appreciate how they didnt change much regardless of whether you're playing a male or female protag. inquisition has probably the best set of armors in the series, but all three champion of kirkwall armors are still amongst my favorite ones. iirc i think it's also in da2 where they introduced different variations of the warden armor for each class, but i could be misremembering.
@fireofdawn3515
@fireofdawn3515 2 жыл бұрын
@@_zeph they did have a variation between male and female in origins and class with a mod I think (made before da2) and da2 has a variation for both carver, stroud, and Bethany and if you did awakening there’s a variation for Nathanial
@user-kn3yk3jn5e
@user-kn3yk3jn5e 2 жыл бұрын
YES YES YEEEEEES
@artifexi3570
@artifexi3570 2 жыл бұрын
Eowyn and Susan are legends 😚👌🏻✨
@whalesharko4465
@whalesharko4465 Жыл бұрын
Ruth Carter (the costume designer for black panther) literally never misses
@paxportal2770
@paxportal2770 2 жыл бұрын
Loved everything about this! Almost wish some female Spartans from Halo were thrown in cause that armor would definitely be in the "I'd wear it" category (if you could, you'd have to have augmentations to wear it or Spartan armor will rip you apart)
@ShinGallon
@ShinGallon 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos make me constantly re-assess the armor designs for the characters in my comic, which is a good thing. I significantly re-designed my Tabaxi barbarian's chestpiece after a few of your vids (it's still basically a leather sports bra but she's a barbarian, it's in-line with her class stats in D&D which is where she's from and is *technically* not armor) and after this am realizing the cuisse on my generic guard armors is...lacking. I'll probably have to go back and edit some of the comic pages now.
@webbowser8834
@webbowser8834 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, generally when you're going for high mobility "light" armor you're basically looking at very durable clothing as opposed to armor as we traditionally envision it. Loose enough to allow for easy movement but still covers most of the body so that a glancing blow doesn't risk cutting you up.
@ragnkja
@ragnkja 2 жыл бұрын
To see how various parts of a suit of plate armour interact, check out “How to dress in medieval armour” by Modern History TV.
@ShinGallon
@ShinGallon 2 жыл бұрын
@@ragnkja I haven't put anyone in the comic in plate armor yet, they all have pretty basic leather armor.
@DeathnoteBB
@DeathnoteBB 2 жыл бұрын
A good solution narratively that keeps you from constantly editing old pages: Just have a scene, or have a character mention, where the Tabaxi character gets new armor.
@webbowser8834
@webbowser8834 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeathnoteBB This guy illustrates.
@glenmurie
@glenmurie 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see you do one on Games Workshop miniatures female armor. Someone there may be watching your channel, because initially their female Stormcast Eternals had wedges, and the newer models like Yndrasta have real boots.
@GundamReviver
@GundamReviver 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the sisters of battle stuff would also be an interesting subject for discussion
@parjai97
@parjai97 2 жыл бұрын
@@GundamReviver dark eldar is.... well...
@ianpage2509
@ianpage2509 2 жыл бұрын
@@parjai97 they are vampiric. I know because my friend plays them.
@parjai97
@parjai97 2 жыл бұрын
@@ianpage2509 i was referring to the worst 40k armour
@magoshighlands4074
@magoshighlands4074 2 жыл бұрын
@@parjai97 Well they ate a bunch of drugged up sadist murder cultsits, so you can't really expect sense or reason to come jntobtueir desiccant making process
@karlhenke91
@karlhenke91 2 жыл бұрын
In the Name of the King, a movie I best remember from a battle scene where they needed a horse to neigh loudly, and clearly just got a guy to make a horse noise.
@EMBer3000
@EMBer3000 10 ай бұрын
One fanfic set in the Star Trek universe I read actually had a bit of an explanation for the boob window on female klingon armour. In the games, there are personal shields, and this was reflected in this story so that hole in the armour was covered by the energy shielding from long-range attacks, thus making it slightly less bad. But the real genius came from one of the fight scenes where an alien warrior tried to capitalise on the gap in the armour and was immediately disarmed and beheaded, it seems that female klingons use that gap as a lure for both male klingons and other races and are taught a version of martial arts that has specific counters set up for attacks directed at that spot. This martial arts technique is seemingly so effective that the alpha quadrant races have just given up and just teach people to attack anything else, instead of aiming for that gap so as to not have them be defeated in a humiliating way. Oh, and the boob window has another use. It makes klingon males easily influenced during negotiations... kind of like us human males are by a bit of cleavage.
@josephgraney1928
@josephgraney1928 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to throw out that while Klingons are a warrior race, we see them wearing "armor" all the time when they aren't in combat nor really expect to be in battle any time soon. Furthermore, armor isn't all that useful in a world with phasers, disruptors, and blades made out of "composite baakonite" which just seem to cut through the supposed "armor" no matter what. This leads me to conclude that Lursa and B'ettor's "armor" is essentially a cultural relic, like the gorget of 18th century military officers. As such, the giant chest opening doesn't actually matter because it's not really intended to be practical for defense.
@Xondar11223344
@Xondar11223344 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kenionatus Totally in character for Lursa and B'Etor, as they're noblewomen from a dishonourable house. Totally out of character for other Kilingon women, who do *not* wear armour like that at all.
@tarrker
@tarrker 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct! The armor worn by Klingon warriors is somewhat symbolic. Two, different engineering books as well as several games state that Klingon "armor" is actually a cloth that can absorb standard phaser fire as well as deflect melee attacks. Although, that doesn't seem to be the case when watching the shows or movies. Either way, Lursa and B'etor are stand outs. As heads of their houses they can kinda do whatever they want so they just wear their own "armor". LoL :)
@kevincrady2831
@kevincrady2831 2 жыл бұрын
On the other hand, Klingons fight with stabby/slashy melee weapons (bat'leths and swords) all. the. time, so their armor should still be functional. OTOH, they all seem to be pretty eager to get to -Valhalla- Stovokor, and weapon and armor practicality doesn't appear to be very high on their priority list.
@superslash7254
@superslash7254 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevincrady2831 Lursa and B'Etor in particular however are portrayed as underhanded, dishonorable, and using their sexuality to try and throw people off by putting them off balance or manipulating them. Makes perfect sense that they would wear something ridiculous for combat but perfect for their political tactics.
@kevincrady2831
@kevincrady2831 2 жыл бұрын
@@superslash7254 True.
@spychopath
@spychopath 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Klingon womens' "armour" actually belongs in the "not armour" category. Klingon men stabby stabby each other in bar fights, Klingon women's outfits are meant more to look appealing without making them look totally unprotected. And remember, if you are able to stab them in the heart... they've still got the other heart.
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 2 жыл бұрын
It could be a fun bit of world building to have Klingons' ribcages be pretty much fused, with a really thick sternum; making their chest basically stab proof.
@dembones5005
@dembones5005 2 жыл бұрын
It definitely falls into the 'not actually armor' or 'stab me now' category when worn in that style. We see in TNG and DS9 that female Klingons going into battle wear the exact same armor as the males.
@anonymousfellow8879
@anonymousfellow8879 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a warrior race. You don’t wear that much metal UNLESS it’s “armor” since that ain’t jewelry. Jill got it right.
@patrickmccurry1563
@patrickmccurry1563 2 жыл бұрын
Klingons aren't really a sensible warrior race though. They're an ego-driven one up man ship style. So leaving weird gaps in clothing could be argued as confidently daring enemies to just "try it, punk".
@MichaelRainey
@MichaelRainey 2 жыл бұрын
@@euansmith3699 It pretty much is. In The Undiscovered Country, Doctor McCoy has to beat very hard on the Chancellor's chest during CPR because of how rigid a Klingon's ribcage is compared to a human's. Standard human CPR just isn't effective on a Klingon. In the Deep Space 9 episode where Worf's brother Kurn wants to commit suicide, he bares his chest for his brother to stab him and we see that a Klingon's sternum is thickly plated and ridged like their skulls. We'll just attribute the smooth sternum of the women to sexual dimorphism.
@samoldfield5220
@samoldfield5220 Жыл бұрын
11:37 - you actually touch on a good point there with the plunging neckline, while I''ll happily concede that hollywood's reasoning is to show boob, the chest is a major heatsink for the heart particularly doing aerobic exercise when the lungs are also running hot. Women, particularly well endowed women, store a lot of extra fat on their chest compared to (most) men, that's extra insulation making heat loss harder, and if you're also putting padding in the arm pits, completely covering the chest as thickly as possible is like running a marathon wearing snowgear. Xena is set in the Mediterranean, that's 40C in the summer, if you're nimble do you really want to be wearing a big metal jumper?
@amandajones8841
@amandajones8841 2 жыл бұрын
First video of yours I've seen. Clearly need to binge watch now.
@voxorox
@voxorox 2 жыл бұрын
8:28 You could stab anywhere across her chest and that plate would actually deflect it INTO the fatal parts.
@otakuribo
@otakuribo 2 жыл бұрын
Only gripe I've ever had with Samus' armor is that the Arm Cannon goes over her whole arm, meaning she can't use her right hand for anything else. Though i suppose it comes with the benefit of never losing or dropping your weapon in combat.
@Solusphere
@Solusphere 2 жыл бұрын
At least in some depictions, the end of the barrel can fold out into a little four fingered pincer thing, which at least lets her grab things with that arm, though I doubt it has much in the way of manual dexterity.
@Ineedgames
@Ineedgames 2 жыл бұрын
One of the old designs had it as a wrist cannon that can form over her hand when shooting.
@maddie9602
@maddie9602 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, a lot of sci-fi/fantasy properties have weapons like that, and I always think they look silly and far less practical than just _carrying the weapon._
@0sm1um76
@0sm1um76 2 жыл бұрын
"Why do you need a right hand when you have a missile launcher?" - Samus probably
@UltaFlame
@UltaFlame 2 жыл бұрын
She appears to be left handed, or at least ambidextrous. She uses the cannon for all of her fighting. I'm more curious about how her hand and arm fit into it without getting vaporized by the beams she uses. Missiles take up space, so where is her arm then...?
@user-mn8lz7gf6d
@user-mn8lz7gf6d 2 жыл бұрын
the black panther female armor is like 2% armor. Considering they're facing guns and lots of spears, they might as well wear underarmor shirts, those at least have "armor" in the name.
@TheDrexxus
@TheDrexxus 2 жыл бұрын
Zero suit Samus is literally Samus without her actual armor on. That is what she wears beneath her armor. So it is technically part of her full badass armor, presumably its in there for comfort and possibly to prevent chaffing.
@ThePaulineu
@ThePaulineu Жыл бұрын
That's why it was put in the "not actually armour" tier
@DapperMudkip
@DapperMudkip 2 жыл бұрын
Samus’ power suit is like my favorite design for female armor. Unique, functional, evokes strength, but still compliments her figure and has a sense of grace. It’s a really interesting balance.
@knightbot4052
@knightbot4052 2 жыл бұрын
It's increasingly fascinating because 99% of female armor is visually structured to accentuate the chest, the hips or the legs. Samus' suit, however, has a silhouette closer to the more traditionally masculine "dorito" body shape with massive built shoulders that taper down to the waist. And yet it's still curvy and elegant. It evokes both the female form AND the more physically imposing, broad shouldered design, a choice that contrasts HEAVILY with the trend in media of making a women's arms and shoulders as slender as possible, even in armor.
@tehuselessguig3138
@tehuselessguig3138 2 жыл бұрын
the other m one is fugly tho, but the prime/samus returns/SM/dread ones are pretty sweet !
@gilgamesh310
@gilgamesh310 2 жыл бұрын
Her armour in Metroid Dread is especially awesome. It shows her feminine curves and sexy hipsway but is also intimidating.
@jasonblalock4429
@jasonblalock4429 2 жыл бұрын
​@@knightbot4052 Although that's not the original design. In Metroid 1, the suit was more streamlined, and only a bit top-heavy. The gigantic shoulders didn't come about until Metroid 2, specifically because they needed a way to visually distinguish her suit upgrades on a black-and-white screen. Then that look stuck around, probably since it did make for such a distinctive silhouette. And if you want to see something really weird, look up her suit design for the Zebes Invasion Order gamebook. It's heavily Sentai-influenced, and for some reason she has utterly insane shoulder pieces that look like the Sydney Opera house.
@ariwl1
@ariwl1 2 жыл бұрын
It's great how unique Samus' suit is to her since Power Armor is not an unusual thing in her universe. You'd frequently see Federation Forces agents wearing their own style of armor that looks way bulkier and cobbled together. It ties in with how her suit is supposed to connected to her on such a level that no one else could use it.
@mooby1721
@mooby1721 2 жыл бұрын
"You've got so many places where you can just stab us, but it's ok because Ive got this one pauldron." "And mine's a scale one!" Thank you for the hearty laugh!
@raideninc
@raideninc 2 жыл бұрын
First of all: Good job! I really enjoyed your take on this rather emotional topic (at least for some of us armor is not just fantasy). And as the majority of comments stated, a category for „it’s not ment to be armor“ is a great choice. Just one little point that glimpses through but should be considered as a major factor instead: What about a shield? I am a fighter in historic European martial arts (or let’s say the modern reconstruction of it) and started this journey almost 20 years ago. This teached me one thing in particular: Bring a shield to battle, if you don’t wear plate. And this is especially a point for the Greek inspired costumes/armory. I know, a shield is not quite the same as armor so it seems a little bit off-topic. But (!) in history there are lots of examples for warriors in light/not optimal/no armor - if they had a shield in battle. This in mind, I‘d rate Wonderwoman and Lady Sif one point better just for bringing a shield.
@Gigawood
@Gigawood Жыл бұрын
Wow, props for including In the Name of the King! That's a movie I completely forgot about (to be fair, hardly surprising considering it's an Uwe Boll video game adaptation)!
@farwunderwmn
@farwunderwmn 2 жыл бұрын
My fiancé loves to show me armor in games he plays and as many times as he's said "this one isn't so bad!" I've pointed out either heels of some variation or a breast plate that would 100% just direct a crushing blow straight to the sternum instead of glancing it off and I think he's getting kind of desperate to find armor I would agree is reasonable lol
@Ghilannugs
@Ghilannugs 2 жыл бұрын
You should check out Dragon Age (Inquisition) armor that should have armors to love and hate in every variety
@farwunderwmn
@farwunderwmn 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ghilannugs i LOVE that game. And I found the armor to be pretty darn good in it in an overall sense. Even the bondage-esque Qunari armor or the Avvar mud-for-armor was at least identical for male and female protagonists, and gave off the vibe of "if you think I look unprotected, then you're in stabbing range" rather than "this is for the sole purpose of sexi"
@Ghilannugs
@Ghilannugs 2 жыл бұрын
@@farwunderwmn Yeah Inquisition is pretty great when it comes to armor. Less so in the first dragon age game but they devs even made a dialogue to laugh at the stupidity of boob armor etc. If I had to make a complaint about the armors its that they seem a bit too tight on the body
@annekekramer3835
@annekekramer3835 2 жыл бұрын
You know, the problem is eye candy. Especially when I play a video game, I really don't care about realism. I mean, I walk around with a flaming sword while a mage shoots iceblasts at me. If those high heels look good on my character, I don't mind that's it's not realistic ;-)
@epicgamer-ny4fj
@epicgamer-ny4fj 2 жыл бұрын
Armour designers: "but how will they know their gender with out giving the armour itself boobs????"
@TrogdorBurnin8or
@TrogdorBurnin8or 2 жыл бұрын
Xena is set either sometimes before 600BCE (when the first Heracles epics were written), or depending on which part of canon you believe, in 100BCE to 0. You can speculate about the effectiveness and prevalence of Iron Age armor, in an era when a lot of people were still fighting with bronze because primitive-forged iron wasn't especially durable or workable. From a Quora answer entitled "Why are Roman legions famous for using short bronze swords even though the entire history of ancient Rome sits firmly in the Iron Age?", the following is mentioned: "For many, many centuries after the Iron Age began, iron foundries had two important limitations that bronze foundries did not: 1) They could not produce sheets of iron except at stupendous expense, and 2) They could not cast iron. ... For things made of a large sheet of metal - breastplates, one-piece helmets, shield facings, greaves, things like that - bronze was the only realistic game in town for a long time even after the “Iron Age” had begun. The Greeks of the Persian Wars, fighting three hundred years into the Iron Age, had their spear heads, swords, and daggers made from iron, but their helmets, greaves, shield facings (for those who had them), and corselets - all the big metal implements - were made of bronze. And this state of affairs would continue for centuries more."
@idrisa7909
@idrisa7909 2 жыл бұрын
Xena also has a much more practical armor set that's black
@BalooSJ
@BalooSJ 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding the time period of Xena: Xena has met both Abraham and Julius Caesar. Strict chronology was not a priority on that show.
@patrickmccurry1563
@patrickmccurry1563 2 жыл бұрын
@@BalooSJ I was going to say... It started solidly in the supposed bronze age, but wandered all over the iron age.
@maddie9602
@maddie9602 2 жыл бұрын
You know, I hadn't thought of that, but that does make sense why bronze armor was still being used until well into the age of Rome -- and notably, even then iron armor tended to be made up of smaller pieces linked together, as in _lorica segmentata_ (the iconic segmented plate that is probably the armor most widely associated with the Roman Legion) and _lorica squamata_ (scale armor, also widely associated with the Byzantines -- I think that the arm and leg pieces of Wonder Woman's gold armor is supposed to be this style).
@JB-xl2jc
@JB-xl2jc 2 жыл бұрын
Bronze is actually superior to even decent iron. It isn't until we get into steel that bronze is surpassed in terms of quality. The reason iron was such am advancement was how much more readily available it was- you didn't need to source copper or tin which are FAR more rare, and 10,000 troops in Iron will utterly trounce 500 with bronze and 9500 with leather/wooden/etc etc. Bronze is harder, more durable, more rust resistant, and for weapons it even holds an edge better. The advantages of iron were purely economic and availability-based. Once we get to steel though, even more primitive steels, all bets are off.
@ArchieCooper
@ArchieCooper 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin recommended that I rewatch this. It was a good recommendation because I enjoyed rewatching, but I can't like a video twice, so here's a comment and a hope the algorithm approves.
@Heroshand
@Heroshand Жыл бұрын
A wild Charmed sighting? I've never been more surprised! Awesome
@davidjunk6117
@davidjunk6117 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at it now the Xena 'armour' seems so much more like 'outfit to fight in' instead of 'outfit that'll protect me from injury by others. Like the boots...great for footwork and kneeing someone but not for sword strikes.
@brownhairedkid1
@brownhairedkid1 2 жыл бұрын
Also I get the impression it's set in fantasy Ancient Greece? If she's traveling around in this she's considerably more protected than your average (real) ancient Greek male traveller, who thought "nude with boots, cloak, sunhat and weapon" was practical travelling gear. They packed light, is what I'm saying.
@claeshorsmann8140
@claeshorsmann8140 2 жыл бұрын
Fluff-wise, I would argue that Xena sits firmly in the 'Not really armour' category, because Xena does not need armour. She's tough as nails. I'm talking "Chuck Norris would aspire to be her, if he were a lady" levels of toughness. Ahem. Xena fanboi out.
@ImpudentInfidel
@ImpudentInfidel 2 жыл бұрын
By the standards of Xena's own show her armor is so heavy and practical it looks out of place. It's a setting where women wear halter tops and men don't own shirts.
@davidjunk6117
@davidjunk6117 2 жыл бұрын
@@claeshorsmann8140 perhaps the civilization is undergoing some sort of fabric shortage. Hence men go shirtless and women's clothes are minimal or diaphanous.
@christianschwietzke8959
@christianschwietzke8959 2 жыл бұрын
I watched Excalibur, and "Not Actually Armor" is right for Morgana´s outfit. I have *NO IDEA* why she´s wearing metal to begin with, seeing as she never actually does any fighting. But then, that is also the movie where a character has sex while wearing full plate armor (presumably minus the codpiece)...
@TheAzureGhost
@TheAzureGhost 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen the movie myself but from all i know about sagas and myth on those characters Iron is supposed to hinder magic and be harmful to fey..... so why is morgana wearing it? does she want to show that she is strong enough to wear metal on her skin?
@simontmn
@simontmn 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAzureGhost Given what happens to her the one time she wears it...
@christianschwietzke8959
@christianschwietzke8959 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn´t read too much into that. All the knights are wearing full plate armor, around 800 years before full plate armo actually became a thing - and they´re wearing it ALL THE TIME, like it´s jeans and a t-shirt, not 50-ish pounds of steel. Morgana´s outfit is just supposed to look cool.
@simontmn
@simontmn 2 жыл бұрын
@@christianschwietzke8959 I guess she could have been wearing it to fashionably evoke armour, given that her army was about to go into battle, without it actually being armour. I think it was out-of-universe intended to look cool and also show some flesh, making her eventual fate more horrid.
@Jauhl1
@Jauhl1 2 жыл бұрын
I mean you answer your own question, it's a cool outfit, she is a princess and sorceress she is not fighting anything. Much like high ranking male lords commonly had extravagant get ups, they are meant to be seen and admired. If your king ends up beaten to a pulp you have much larger concerns than the combat efficiency of his armor.
@elcee3292
@elcee3292 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea how the algorithm led me here but I'll be damned if it wasn't right again. Great vid
@SunDry_Marchy
@SunDry_Marchy 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, the staging, the editing, the script! This video is such a delight!
@meganjaime7728
@meganjaime7728 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! A Susan Pevensie mention! Narnia is my absolute favorite. I love the books and the movies were perfect for me. I always loved the costume design and how they designed all the armor. I feel like it’s skipped over a lot when people talk about fantasy armor, armor, swordplay etc. which always bums me out. Anyways all that to say, thank you for mentioning Narnia!😄😁
@mecurian485
@mecurian485 2 жыл бұрын
Love your sense of humor. 😀
@eideticex
@eideticex 2 жыл бұрын
Ever since making my own chainmail shirt. I feel pain whenever I see someone, man or woman wearing chainmail directly against their skin or even leaning against something. The most painful thing to do in my chainmail shirt is to wear it without an undershirt, shoulder pads and sitting back in a wooden chair. Wore it around town for one day and by the end of that day, it felt like I had a bunch of small bruises all over my back from the acceleration of my truck pushes me back into the seat and the rings right into my skin. Didn't even matter I had two shirts on under it.
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