Sexy Schoolgirl Scale Mail: An Armour Tier List

[@JillBearup]

Other armour videos can be found here! Enjoy! Lady Armour Tier List: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZOtfGeKYrh1iKM Witcher Armour Tier List: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHPEZIKkiql8ncU Calanthe's Armour: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5zOpWOvrtqbiNE Boob Armour: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGHPhmlupN6rgZY Also this short about armour peeves: kzbin.infoR2zSSzrXrCc?feature=share

[@AndrewMellor-darkphoton]

hi

[@JillBearup]

And yes, Mordred’s armour is in serious need of segmentation and a shorter breastplate but it is just So Incredibly Extra that I’m here for it regardless.

[@appelofdoom8211]

@@JillBearup I know other people have asked this in the comments but could you at some pojnt take a look at Leliana's armor in dragon age inquisition? Since it's a pretty big upgrade to the schoolgirl scale mail she wore for the old trailers in origins.

[@firefox5926]

i see someones been watching the west wing lol

[@firefox5926]

also if you just want some fill armours to make up the numbers you can go thru the guild wars 1 armours :) female warrior obsidian is cool :)

[@paulroberts3639]

‘Sexy Schoolgirl scale mail’ works as armour because no self respecting warrior wants to add ‘1 sexy schoolgirl’ to their tally. It kind of de-incentivises slaying your female opponent.

[@JillBearup]

😂

[@TJDious]

Is there a psychological aspect to armor class?

[@Kellds47]

Is that this logic? kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWLIpKp9p9CAi5o&ab_channel=Czarkesm

[@J-Hell]

@@TJDious I'm sure they'll be an RPG where that's true.

[@appelofdoom8211]

unfortunately Leliana is mostly fighting mindless monsters so that's not the greatest strategy. Guess that's why she switched to actually sensible chain mail with pants in inquisition.

[@B.-T.]

Conan always amuses me because if Conan is unarmored it's usually because of circumstances (breaking out of jail, favoring stealth over armor, surviving a raid, etc) and he'll frequently wear anything from a mail shirt to full body armor, but for whatever reason popular culture has only held on to the shirtless barbarian in a loincloth presentation regardless of the situation.

[@souljastation5463]

Maybe it's got something to do with the movie.

[@B.-T.]

@@souljastation5463 No, it's because of Frazetta's influence on how the character was presented.

[@tchoythao1730]

Or because he is the armor. Muscles like that look like they belong to a 6 time Mr Olympia champion.

[@skunked42]

Funny fact: The hero sword weighed something like 8lbs, it was that heavy to make it look like a real sword in Arnolds hands, the lighter ones just looked ...silly.

[@oldstump1628]

It’s because of the John carter series. It was stuck in the zeitgeist at the time. And became a trope.

[@l0stndamned]

In defence of the Sisters of Battle, that armour is supposed by be an Iron Man-esq set of power armour rather than normal materials, and it has to be female-shaped for in-universe legal reasons.

[@duckrutt]

It's 40k. Most things are there (and named) for out of universe copyright reasons.

[@renskedunnewold1995]

What in-universe _legal_ (of all things) reasons could there possibly be for that?

[@toddkes5890]

@@renskedunnewold1995 Part of the agreement was that the Ecclesiarchy could not have men under arms. So the Ecclsiarchy shows that it does not have 'men' under arms, because those are obviously women

[@davidcrellin8531]

@@toddkes5890 It's one of those little details that make you realise how much time and effort some of the 40k writers spent justifying stuff in universe. Writer 1: "We want women, clearly in power armour" Writer 2: "Are they... Space Marines?" Writer 1: "No - they're women who fight as the Women at Arms of the Ecclesiarchy in a blatant attempt to bypass the rules set upon it by the the Imperium of Mankind"

[@GaiusMarius65]

Imagine servo assisted suit of heavy plates and thick ceramite infused fabric (carbon fiber on steroids).

[@TheOnlyToblin]

I love how you're not actually a historian or a HEMA fighter, but a stage fighter. Our opinions on armor diverge a lot, but goddamn, I love your perspective, because it takes me off of my snooty high horse and makes me appreciate art and fun. Thank you for being you, Jill. You are a treasure!

[@rusalkin]

Women wearing armor and going into battle, lol, now THATS fantasy! No sniper rifle, no women.

[@joachimfrank4134]

@@rusalkin What about Jeanne d'Arc

[@tatiana2696]

@@rusalkin Girl, you thought you ate that didn't you? 💀⚰️

[@insertname1857]

@@rusalkin someones never heard of boudicca. or like. the celts. or vikings. or anyone other than romans and post-roman empire lol

[@tildal.]

@@insertname1857 the ghosts of scythian women staring blankly

[@TheEvilpossum]

A major bit of context for Conan, I'd say running around in the loincloth and booties is strictly a movie thing. In the original stories, he's normally portrayed or implied to be clothed normally. Even in the comics, he usually has armor when he's fighting a real army.

[@Soveliss74]

But... Arnold. And his pecks. They must be seen

[@jasonblalock4429]

But at the same time, if you look up typical covers for Conan books and comics, he's usually not wearing much armor there either. And they were a huge influence on the movie production; it clearly wanted to look like a Vallejo or Frazetta painting come to life.

[@larsg.2492]

@@jasonblalock4429 Yeah, Hollywood shaped the way we think of the character now. But OP is right, in the stories Conan interacts with different cultures and follows different professions, and although his clothing might sometimes be a bit revealing or 'battle worn', a fur loincloth is not explicately mentioned.

[@iapetusmccool]

In the original stories, it varies a lot depending on when the story is set and what conan is doing. In some of the chronologically early stories, he's described as wearing nothing but a loincloth and sandals. But in other stories, he's found employment as a mercenary captain, or a pirate, or a cossak chief, or leading a band of Afghan bandits, or a king, and wears the armour and clothes appropriate to the role.

[@TheEvilpossum]

@@iapetusmccool What's most noteworthy is that the Weird Tales illustrators never played up the loincloth bit. I double checked that before I made the comment. What I found was that Conan was portrayed shirtless in Red Nails, the last in REH's lifetime, but rarely if ever before that. What was really odd was that they gave Conan what looks for all the world like a pair of gym shorts, so still technically no loincloth.

[@adriansz343]

I mean, have you seen those pecs? Conan's got all of the armor he needs right there haha! Love the video Jill, keep up the good work!

[@kennethfharkin]

Conan has the best armor of all, plot armor.

[@helgenlane]

That's what they call "natural armour" - deflect arrows with sheer might of your pecs.

[@prospero4183]

If i had his chest I would never cover it, that deserves to be shown off

[@KBKarma]

That's not armour. Those are *guns*.

[@alexandercandicedad1355]

You don't need armor when you've got the biggest GUNS in the room

[@a.harrington1634]

I need a "Not Actually Armour" mug to hunker behind while I'm sipping tea.

[@sharkofjoy]

"Not actually armor" would also be great on a t-shirt lol

[@3countylaugh]

@@sharkofjoy Especially in say a red-ish color, for no specific reason.😉

[@fortcolors9887]

@@sharkofjoy I absolutely want a NOT ACTUALLY ARMOR t-shirt lmao

[@scottmantooth8785]

*please Jill make this happen along with the "stab me now" mug (or festive insulated drink tumbler thingy)...do it for your patrons...do it for the children*

[@LairdErnst]

Can’t remember the last time Jill said the words “extra” and “here for it” in the same context before. Made me smile a lot.

[@TMHedgehog]

Sister's of battle armour is supposed to be a powered armour suit, anything leather or cloth over it is just sitting over the top of the armour. I do believe the lore would indicate that the more decorated sisters with impractical dangly bits tend to be the ones who aren't exactly 'frontline' infantry, but rather command or ceremonial roles.

[@Garudadurag]

pretty much this, plus the boobplates are less of an issue when the only two handed weapons you generally see are either chainsaw grip big bore guns, or giant chainsaw swords wielded mostly by people not wearing much in the way of anything other then burlap.

[@genocidinggemini2858]

moreover the women in the sisters arent genetically enhanced. they are highly trained regular female humans who have been contracted by the eclessiarchy or nobles of houses who are given this training. and and dont have the ceramite skin grafting male space marines do. so basically these women are wearing hundreds of pounds of powered armor with their own physical un modified strength. also not true many of the sisters who wear all those dangly bits are mostly front line fighting . Many cannoness' or dialogus' type units walk into battle chanting scriptures and hymns for the sisters so they go into Zealous fervant rage. so all those dangly bits are where their holy zealous magic comes from by using the power of FAITH to protect them whether its incense burning items holy torches or pages of anointed scripture transcribed onto the armor or tagged on with paper.. so they serve a purpose other then aesthetics. TLDR and Caveat. : none of this matters its a time 40 thousand years in the future. so trying to use REALISM and LOGIC in a world with guns shooting rocket propelled bullets the size of cars at other monsters and other crazy things is a recipe in futility

[@gergokerekes4550]

@@genocidinggemini2858 the armor "carries" itself. even space marine can barely move without their reactors.

[@андрейкопылов-л6ъ]

@@genocidinggemini2858 Even modern exoskeleton can carry it's weight. And power armour is in fact an armoured exoskeleton, from the future.

[@penguinsentinel8508]

Let's face it, she could probably beat someone to death with that censer anyway.

[@aeneasfate]

Terry English, the armorer from Excalibur, has a huge ten-part video series with Adam Savage about his style of making full plate aluminium costume armors from start to finish. It's really good.

[@roryross3878]

Love that movie, it's so wonderfully 80's!

[@backuppixiedust1115]

Also about the censer: those things get very hot when you have incense burning in them. Which could scorch the piece of cloth it’s leaning on, or even just set it on fire.

[@thomasbaker6563]

The sisters are a bunch of pyromaniac nuns with a serious grudge, would being on fire externally really be seen as an issue, there wearing a ceramite (presumably ceramic) exoskeleton?

[@I.Lostalim]

So what you're saying is that they're setting themselves on fire as they run into battle. Does sound like a solid intimidation tactic from the Inquistorium 😆

[@thomasbaker6563]

@@I.Lostalim they do like there flamethrowers

[@Tylendal242]

Yeah. Sisters of Battle would definitely see setting themselves on fire as a plus.

[@Tetsujinhanmaa]

@@Tylendal242 This. They would see it as a test or faith or a form of Penance.

[@seanheath4492]

Valeera Sanguinar would probably go more under "not actually armor" since it's pretty much all cloth and leather. Besides, she doesn't have to have other people stab her; a good face stabbing is just an incautious shrug away. :P

[@JillBearup]

“a good face stabbing is a just an in cautious shrug away” is definitely the phrase of the day 😂

[@seanheath4492]

@@JillBearup Honestly, that could be said about a lot of the shoulders from WoW. And I'm saying that as someone who used to play WoW and really liked Valeera. :P

[@Vinemaple]

WoW tier armor has reached the point of self-parody.

[@rhokesh4391]

I always wondered what the thought process was in the people who designed that kind of armor *for a rogue* .

[@seanheath4492]

@@rhokesh4391 Does it look cool (optional: somewhat ninja-ish)? Does it look it would allow for good mobility and not make a lot of noise? If the answer to both of these is yes, it's rogue armor. :P

[@dougsundseth6904]

That Mordred armor, while some parts are pretty reasonable, is essentially a straitjacket. The back-and-breast has no flexibility at all and falls directly into Just Stab Me Now, since that's exactly what would happen. Given the coverage, it's likely that the stabbing would be through the groin, which makes it even more special. If you were to shorten the breastplate and provide an actual fauld, it wouldn't be bad. As it is, if you were to bend forward, you would catch the armor edges in your throat and abdomen; it's a disaster.

[@JillBearup]

But it’s so ✨sparkly✨ 😁

[@AdmiralJota]

I'm not convinced that it's not just a glammed up version of Twiki from Buck Rogers.

[@HBHaga]

@@AdmiralJota Bee-dee-bee-dee I WILL FIND HIM!! Bee-dee-bee-dee

[@reachandler3655]

But it's magically enhanced, so doesn't need to follow real world rules.

[@Specter_1125]

The breast plate is not far from what some Roman officers actually wore

[@OverlordMaggie]

Note with the Sisters of Battle: When showing the three less objectionable outfits, the leftmost one had the censer in front of her lab but she's at least holding it to the side. If it was clasped to their hips or outer thighs or held or clipped under their guns, anything to prevent her from getting it wrapped around her legs when she runs in with her sword.

[@Avorous13]

Ah Leliana, that armor is from an old trailer from the 2009 Dragon Age game! Some of their female armor was a little side eye but I would say that the game developer had improved on the in game armor since back in the olden days. Would love to see you take a look at the before and after! Course I might be biased, Dragon Age is what got me into gaming

[@viktorsolovyov5067]

Dragon age is the Best fantasy since LotR

[@gergokerekes4550]

yeah, in inqusition her outfit is pretty good for a spymaster.

[@insanityang]

The character designs in the DA:Origins trailers were all kind of weird. Sten's sword was tiny! Personally, I really like Leliana's outfit in DA:Inquisition. Much better coverage, and there was cloth under the chain.

[@appelofdoom8211]

dragon age origins trailer Leliana is ''just stab me now''. Dragon age inquisition Leliana is ''just try to stab me now''

[@Ellanion]

Origins had those awkward moments where you took a leather torso armour off of a dude, put it on a woman, and she took out her scissors and cut off the bottom part so she could show her stomach and cut out a deep cleavage too.

[@lyooyiylklykyokyklky]

Azareal(sp?) and Crowley look pretty decent from a history POV! Azareal especially looks like something that could be seen at the beginning of the 15th century, mostly. The pauldrons might be a little funky and I'd like to see a stop rib, but compared to anything else on TV it's damn near 10/10!

[@spacetime_continuum]

Aziraphale is how it’s spelled. Just trying to help.

[@lyooyiylklykyokyklky]

Thanks! I haven't read Good Omens in ages, so might be time for a re-read!

[@boghag]

The problem is, it said 537 AD at the beginning of that scene

[@lyooyiylklykyokyklky]

Ah, that might be an issue! Only 900 years off!

[@JillBearup]

537AD? 😂😂😂 I did not know that, that is genuinely hilariously…non-contemporaneous.

[@deadknight1402]

Worth noting: Conan was often given armour in the short stories, and would accept and wear the armour when he had the opportunity. He even wore full plate into battle at one point. This is because the trope of the naked barbarian's unarmoured defense wasn't even a thing when Rob E. Howard was writing, and he had his characters wear armour whenever the option became available to them.

[@ItsAVolcano]

6:54 the Sisters aesthetic is partly determined by the fact that the Ecclesiarchy they serve is under edict to not keep any men under arms. So, to a degree, many of the overt feminine bits on the armor are very deliberate.

[@thatHARVguy]

One of the few times a gender-locked class is justified.

[@SacredDaturaa]

Honestly this strikes me very much like a "she has to be scantily clad because she breathes through her skin" kind of lore justification. Like is it better or worse that the story lampshades it directly?

[@CyberJellos]

@@SacredDaturaa I'm not sure what you mean by "scantily clad" the sisters are much more heavily armoured than the average soldier in the setting. If you are referring to the boob armour, then that is not unreasonable either. Historically fashion and sexualization was very much part of armour design (knight codpiece) and there are even some rare examples of noble women having armour made for them that accentuated the breasts. The biggest problem with the outfit that I see is the fact that many of them don't wear their helmets.

[@roguevector1268]

@@SacredDaturaa I feel that its better because it only specifies women under arms, not 'sexy' women under arms, it stops the incels from screaming 'but why not use MEN instead because they're... [fill in with generic-brand sexism]' type arguments; the Sisters/Ministorum HAVE to use women, and the Sisters are generally depicted as being A: covered neck to toe in armor, with a few exceptions (repentia, who are a lot better looking in their latest incarnation compared to previous depictions) and B: bloody good at their jobs (if overzealous).

[@SacredDaturaa]

@@CyberJellos I was alluding to the MGSV character Quiet, who is practically naked, and this has an in-universe explanation (she breathes through her skin). Obviously, the real reason for putting her in an ultra-sexualized outfit is fanservice for thirsty nerds and all that convoluted lore about parasites and skin-breathing came later. The Sisters lore surrounding the boob armor strikes me as the same kind of lore justification, even if they're not as overtly sexualized as Quiet's outfit.

[@LordMondegrene]

Came for the armor, subscribed for the Scots accent, the gentle snark, the vocabulary ("diegetic"? WTF is that? Google it... OH! Film terminology. Thanks, sword lady!) And the wonderful eclectic learning that goes into your excellent content. Cheers!

[@rmsgrey]

It goes back to ancient Greece, where diegesis and mimesis (narration and imitation) were the two ways of presenting a story - by telling it or by acting it out. From that, we get "diegetic" - referring to things happening within the world of the story, which characters are (or could be) aware of - and "non-diegetic" - referring to things not part of of the story, but part of the telling.

[@333Saffie]

I'm pretty sure that's Irish.

[@LordMondegrene]

@@333Saffie oops, sorry, I mix and match Scottish and Irish accents, being a bit of both, but separated by 200 years. (Sniff)

[@rebeccafoster-faith6647]

Specifically Northern Irish. I think. (But yeah, the accent!)

[@cholten99]

Who doesn't love an ending with a great Josh Lyman quote

[@goatkiller666]

Side note about the Sisters of Battle: that’s power armor. Through supposedly technological means it adds a lot of strength to her. The giant bulge you see on the back of the one you did a close-up on is a jet pack, which usually involves the sword as part of a powered “death from above” move. So it’s possible in-universe they weren’t worried about torso flexibility. Likewise, only the very highest leaders got permission to wear helmets. The censor… I got nothing. I mean, their actual god did sometimes grant miracles in battle, so it might have been a worthwhile concession. And they were also fully qualified nuns… I could see them leading sermons in full armor, etc. so while I agree with your critiques, most of them could be explained away via the lore. Of course, the lore creators and the fan art community feed off each other, so that might all be dudes drawing bad armor decisions, then authors coming up with weird reasons a reasonable person would make those decisions. (See how Solo the movie explained away the word ‘parsec’ from A New Hope.)

[@I.Lostalim]

That's not a jet pack - sisters jump packs are much larger than that - that is just the standard power armour reactor. The literal power supply for the armour. As for being "written away by the lore" we all know a lot of that came later. In the 90's Games Workshop went "whoops we need women" and wanted their addition to be as obvious as possible ... That said however everything produced for the more venerated factions of the Imperium, such as the Astartes or Inquistorus, the Adeptus Sororitas have armour that is designed to be as much ceremonial as it is a giant suit of robot armour and as such tends to be very extra

[@jaqssmith1666]

Almost every Sororitas troop choice can have helmets though.

[@EvanGadol]

I was absolutely not expecting that final reference but I am superimposing your voice over Josh's voice in my head now. 🤣

[@danielburgess7785]

Josh Lyman: Victory is mine, victory is mine. Great day in the morning, people, victory is mine. Donna Moss: Morning, Josh. Josh Lyman: I drink from the keg of glory, Donna. Bring me the finest muffins and bagels in all the land. Donna Moss: It's going to be an unbearable day.

[@alacnaythegreat1054]

They're having a party in the west wing right now

[@02JAN1970]

Classic Josh and classic WW dialogue! What a great show.

[@infpdreams]

SO excited to see a Dragon Age character! That series is my favorite fiction in the world, and while many of the armors are... ehhh, especially in the early game, they have some good ones, too, especially later on. It's also cool because for some of the games, there are mods that swap out the boob plating on females and cover up gaps in the leather armor, so you can have your women rock practical armor. Needless to say, I use those mods because I don't want my characters to look comically stupid. Definitely give Leliana's armor in Inquisition a quick look, since it's pretty much the opposite of her armor in the Dragon Age trailer that was reviewed!

[@dreamcoyote]

I must have been around 12 when Excalibur came out. I remember going to see it with my friends. Four tween boys and my friend's mom. Now, we'd all seen "sex scenes" of course (so many stupid music montages in those action movies) and of course we were all embarrassed at seeing something like that next to your friend's mom. We knew it was coming because of the plot and setup but when they cut to Uther, in full plate, erm.. "making Arthur" my friend's mom just burst out in a full voiced laugh that she could not stifle. As a grownup I can fully appreciate her reaction now :D. Now that couldn't have been comfortable for either of them >:D

[@mbryson2899]

I've seen it done IRL. The guy got the worst of the deal. Also, in the film they used an actual raging fire in the hearth. Katrine Boorman had a difficult time from the heat, more so than the (ahem) "physical activity" or that her father was directing.

[@Debbiebabe69]

@@mbryson2899 wow never realised that.... Boorman's actual daughter played Igraine? How did he pull that one off? John - 'I cant get an actress to play a minor role in my film, her only main part is getting brutally raped to near death by a man in full plate armour' Kat - 'Eww why would anyone want to take that role?' John - 'Its Gabriel Byrne inside the plate'. Kat - 'Sign me up!'

[@gergokerekes4550]

damn, Leliana got made dirty by the old ass trailer. in inqusition she has a good chain hauberk, with a hood. edit : sisters of battle use complete powered armor, the ornament on the chest is meaningless, they can't bend that way anyway. the censer is there becouse they are the military arm of the church basically, religion is a big thing to them.

[@Ellanion]

And going up against literal demons where belief is one of the most important traits that censer might be the most protective part of the whole thing. 40k is weird and applying logic to it tends to lead to headaches.

[@CorwynGC]

Maybe, but why is the censor *there*? Hang it off a hip. Or on the back.

[@Ellanion]

@@CorwynGC Because several thousand years ago someone was depicted wearing it like that. Artistic liberties, unfortunate timing, broken chain, bad idea. Didn't matter. They use that reference to recreate it with religious precision. The humans of 40k don't understand their technology. It is magic and unknowable. Improving it is heresy because it implies the divine design is less than perfect. She might trip over that thing every battle, but she'll proudly polish it each and every time (or more likely surrender it to a tech priest who will polish it ritualistically exactly this many times while chanting that prayer). In the setting the impracticality is part of the design and helps tell the story.

[@gergokerekes4550]

@@CorwynGC it is on herbelt. easy to reach in case of demons (that are evryday oponents for the SoB) also it must be front and center. you do not get how fanatic these nuns are, if the cloth gets lit on fire from it they won't go "ah, fire" they will shout that big emps sent his holy flames to sister xyz so she is shielded from the heretics touch. also this "it obstructs" argument on power armor is like an antenna on a tank/APC "but its in the way of the gun" it will move out of the way.

[@CorwynGC]

@@Ellanion as long as we are agreeing that it is stupid...

[@nixhixx]

10 of 10 Stars for the Josh Lyman / The West Wing outro!

[@LoganKearsley]

re: skin showing... just this weekend, I saw an Armored Combat League combatant, actually in the list wacking people with swords and such, who, if not looking too carefully, I would've sworn had totally bare legs. Which the referee would not have allowed, obviously, so it was clearly Not That, but she totally had natural-skin-tone leather which gave that effect!

[@krissybaglin9206]

most the ol' sexy 'armour' looks to be made of latex, polished shine and form fit. However, whilst shining is a common trait between metal and latex, latex does not retain heat nor insulates from the cold, and it restricts movement, it is quite literally the worst thing to fight in. Signed, a lady who has had to defend herself from an assault whilst wearing latex.

[@qwormuli77]

That one seems like a story and a half.

[@tamlandipper29]

@@qwormuli77 right? We demand an after action report

[@58209]

@@tamlandipper29 maybe don't demand someone recount a likely traumatic incident. if they haven't already elaborated on their own, let it be.

[@tamlandipper29]

@@58209 It is their choice, but my intent was to emphasise the somewhat old fashioned view that there is only honour in successfully defending against an attack, not shame. Since they brought it up, I would think that doing them honour is more important .

[@BS-ne5cr]

I was just explaining your channel and more importantly this kind of episode, to my boyfriend and my last description was " it's like will it armor." If you're old like me you can remember David Letterman having a segment called will it float. That's where they drop things into water and saw if it would float or not. I think it's a good comparison will it armor.

[@twistedtachyon5877]

Reminds me of Matt Grey's "Will it soft serve?"

[@BS-ne5cr]

@@twistedtachyon5877 I haven't seen that. I'll have to check it out.

[@Laserbeams_]

I didn't know how much I needed to hear you quote Josh Lyman.

[@Billchu13]

Personally I would call Samus' zero suit extremely light armor. It probably provides more protection & other benefits than leather

[@magoshighlands4074]

It's also designed to be worn under powered armour, which like the Knight under suits from FO4, has to be tight fitting so you can get in and out of the armour easily

[@FFKonoko]

Not quite but close. She is able to literally summon the suit onto her body in a flash of light. So fanon is that it uses the same sort of energy-matter converters that let her turn her body into energy for the morph ball. So no requirement to be climbing into armour. But even when not wearing the zero suit, she did wear form fitting clothes under the suit. She is indeed quoted as describing that its "streamlined design enables acrobatic movement". Most people do believe it gives some form of minimal defense but there isn't really much to support that, since she dies in a single hit in it. 😅

[@SavageGreywolf]

It serves in roughly the same role as a quilted habergeon would on medieval armor, i.e., it's not actually armor, but it's there to keep the armor from being metal against your skin. I still agree with Jill's rating for the Zero Suit, not armor.

[@ladychrya9379]

Also the heels are not cannon, they're purely a Smash thing

[@Ajehy]

Yeah, but it would do zero good for Jill to analyze it because “fancy sci-fi bodysuit” only gives her so much to work with.

[@patrickpachal6410]

OMG, a West Wing reference! I ❤️ this channel even more than ever.

[@ronmaximilian6953]

Mordred's armor is so extra that it comes with a soundtrack in my head.

[@righteousindecision2778]

'Liked' for the West Wing quote at the end. Not the reference I'd expect, and so doubly welcome.

[@ginnieliebherr4245]

Yay a tier list! I love your armor reviews

[@brookechang4942]

I am absolutely floored and delighted by the West Wing reference.

[@luiseveigel849]

I missed this, awesome to be here again

[@claremcquillan9080]

In addition to all the other awesomeness in this video, thank you for that clip at the end. I've got a WW smile on my face now...just don't tempt the wrath of the whatever from high atop the thing!

[@ljfisher21]

Love the West Wing reference! "...bring me the finest muffins and bagels in all the land"

[@samson3167]

Well, now you've done it, I have to rewatch the west wing and I have exams next week. I will blame you Jill... :)

[@inionanbas615]

I'd be interested to see your thoughts on Leliana's Inquisition outfit. Her role in that game is more spymaster than operative, but she gets off some fun assassinations nonetheless.

[@sylvirgiomanach1491]

The neck-snapping death thighs. Didn't like her much in Origins, but she is SCARY in Inquisition. And I am so freaking here for it.

[@squidminion3801]

The amount of "amour" that leaves the femoral artery unprotected are worrying - love the stage combat perspective you bring!

[@durhamdavesbg]

It isn't the easiest place to armour, or the armour is meant for horseback and so that area would be covered by a saddle I get, but yeah, I got taught upward diagonal cuts as pert of my four basic cuts for a reason.

[@Debbiebabe69]

Thats quite realistic - until the high medieval period only mounted heavy cavalry had full protection of the legs, infantry might get a facing greave on one leg but thats it. Striking a leg in battle leaves you at a huge disadvantage - you are focusing low down, meaning the other 10 or so enemy soldiers within spear range of you have an easy stab.

[@nikmenn2751]

@@Debbiebabe69 About cavalry - no one except knights could afford to wear greaves, because it's costly and walk in these is tiresome. About leg slashing - history told quite opposite - if you have tight formation fight these 10 spearmen will be already engaged in fight with your allies and you will have no room to make a strike which will require of you to expose yourself and more importantly - legs are the only zones not protected with shield in such a fight.

[@slagathor91]

Dragon Age is a great well of content, TBH. Full of knights warriors and factions, all distinctly coded visually and loosely inspired by various nations and cultures.

[@FreyaofCerberus]

That's a weird promo image of Leliana, i've played those games a bunch of times and that's not even her face. To be fair Dragon Age origins had it's share of sexy armor with boob plate, self-castrations panels and a bunch more. But if you even do another of these i highly recommend looking at the Armour from Dragon Age Inquisition, waaaay better stuff. Including a Leliana with armor that would actually protect her, chainmail galore.

[@dennissuijkerbuijk8065]

If anyone is interrested in what exactly the armour is that a Sister of Battle from the warhammer 40k universe wears and how it functions. It is Called power armour. The more famous power armour known is that worn by the adeptus astartes. Better known as space marines. A suit of armour with all kinds of protective layers which moves with the wearer by use of integrated servos and fiber bundles(synthetic muscles) If worn with a helmet it is completely sealed from the outside environment.

[@SonsOfLorgar]

And durable enough to deflect or stop anything short of a 37mm ww2 anti tank cannon shot, and even that isn't a guaranteed penetration.

[@aliciagrayson4203]

Hi! 40K nerd here! At 7:27 you say that the Fleur de Lis would keep you from being able to bend, but Id say they cant even really bend before that regardless of its material and the corset. She's wearing power armor under all of that. In 40K, power armor is a pain in the ass to move around in if its not on a Space Marine because the wearer isnt augmenteed and more than likely dont have the sockets for it to plug into. I dont think shes even capable of bending over without the additional bells and whistles.

[@SavageGreywolf]

I thought that the sisters had some sort of spooky faith-in-the-emperor magic powers that made them able to use power armor. don't crucify me if this isn't the case, my knowledge of 40k is contact-level at best. I played Space Marine. It was fun.

[@Markus-zb5zd]

@@SavageGreywolf nah, just shit tons of training, like inquisitors and such

[@patriarch7237]

The latest models have the sockets for the armour to plug into, so the Sisters can move around in their armour without collapsing.

[@aliciagrayson4203]

@@SavageGreywolf my understanding is it's bulky and expensive and requires a lot of training to wear effectively. It also slows you down considerably because unless you're a space marine, it's computer is not tied directly into your nervous system.

[@simongeard4824]

@@SavageGreywolf Only if you count pure bloodymindededness as a magic power. Point them at the heretics, and stay out of the way...

[@singtothesilence]

Regarding the Sisters armour - it's "power armour", somewhere between plate mail, a spacesuit and a mechanical exoskeleton. For costuming purposes, it's a solid shell-like structure, possibly with more flexible underlayers around the main bits. Diagetically, the main material is "ceramite", a ceramic polymer something something wibbly wobbly techy mechy stuff, and then there's powered circuitry and ballistic plate and space kevlar textile layers all underneath. This is actually the toned-down version - Space Marines have the "full" version which is a) powered by a backpack generator & b) wired directly into their nervous systems. Metal.

[@durhamdavesbg]

The Sisters one still has the backpack.

[@Luuuna]

Great video as always - wasn't expecting a West Wing reference of all things right at the end 😄

[@BattyButtercup]

would be fun to tierlist armour sets in specific settings "over time": armoursets in the first DA game were very hit & miss, while later games "hit" more accurately or were, at least, More Deliberate in their "misses"; some in the comments have mentioned that Warhammer's figurines are much changed from 5yrs ago vs now; quite a few long-running works (TV series especially) begin at one end of the Tierlist and end at the other, costume-wise (a lot of medical/police dramas start out with tied-back hair & proper footwear on-site then, 5 seasons later, have Full Wavy Locks at all times). Seeing the latest Kayle from LoL redesign certainly had me surprised - I played LoL on&off in its earlier days, when it had Lore Newsletters, and I honestly can't tell whether the designs have improved or backpedal'd as time has gone by (I think the designers might be doing a box step?). Loved this tierlist, as I have enjoyed all such armour rankings, and it is always fun to see the varying POVs on Armour from differently expert people. ^_^

[@bernadmanny]

The video was great, then you bring out 'The West Wing' quote at the end I'm swooning.

[@thesneakydiamond4519]

5:22 "It does have massive shoulders but she's probably magic". Love this quote as Kayle clearly has huge wings and we're just here like probably magical. Maybe she just has some fun accessories!

[@zxb995511]

I didin't realize she had wings until you pointed it out!

[@paulbecket7399]

nicely stated...I agree with all your statements...having been a martial artist and participating in the SCA for years (and loving researching arms and armor) I always enjoy tearing apart movie/video game/scifi book cover art armor and weapons...subscribed!

[@Shutterbug5269]

Interesting that they chose the armor from the Sacred Ashes trailer instead of the armor Leliana wore in the game which is closer to leather hoplyte armor.

[@tjs114]

Mordred, the 'woman' throwing the glitter is Morganna. Gads. I remember that moving when it came out just how left field it was.

[@annbrookens945]

This review is just so much fun! Your bright and cheery analysis and cheeky grin have me smiling through the whole rundown. Beautifully discussed and wittily deconstructed. Please keep it up! Oh, by the way, when can I buy one of those "Just stab me now" mugs, hopefully illustrated with a suitably bad costume?

[@andreaso8886]

Just saying here: You vids have been an inspiration for me. I'm an illustrator doing pretty much fantasy/medieval stuff. I took you criticism to heart and through you (although not ONLY you) I now pay greater attention to realism, armor layering and historical correctness. Thank you for this realistic approach and explaination. You made my work harder but more satisfying. Take care and stay well.

[@aidan4472]

Reactions and qualms with listed armors by someone looking to make their own: Aziraphale and Crowly: never was there a more worthy investment. Would and probably will make this anytime. Batman: looks fine. Wait the coif is SOLID?! Conan: NO. Leliana I: wh… why… Leliana II: there we go! I’d actually be willing to make that. Kyle I: visible confusion Kyle II: I’d rather the metal skirt be connected to the chestpiece, much more comfortable. That and I’m seeing Paladin logic. *sighs* ok, I’ll make it. Lu Linqui: NO. At least this one is trying to do it’s job, but no, I’m not making it. Macbeth: sure, that’ll be 75 gold and I’ll fit you a new set. Sisters of battle: sure you don’t want a helmet? And what’s with that metal ball? Mordred: it would be an honor sir-WHAT THE- *inhales* That is… yeah ok. I’ll do it.

[@SonsOfLorgar]

Re sisters of battle: 1) it's esthetic leather and fabric covering over powered ceramic composites dense and thick enough to stop anything lesser than a 37mm tungsten slug out of a ww2 anti tank cannon... 2) the armour comes with a visored and bevered salet style helmet of the same ceramic material as well as an eye lens integrated head up display, target tracker, motion sensor, echo locator/sonar, IR and night vision filters, loudspeakers, integrated datalink unit coms, 3d map, IFF system and a blink click activated hermetic sealing and rebreather system for hard vacuum, underwater or contaminated combat zones.

[@davidg9210]

Definite like for the Josh from The West Wing quote! :)

[@majormoolah5056]

I remember as a wee lad I saw Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman or Carrie-Ann Moss in the first Matrix and I thought that women can be comfortable in those outfits. For some reason it never occurred to my teenage brain to consider would I be comfortable in the same costumes... and I think that this quirk of the male brain is why these costumes exist.

[@wyrmh0le]

I mean how uncomfortable can they be if you can do super gun fu in them?

[@majormoolah5056]

@@wyrmh0le That is why SWAT teams come in wearing skin tight latex you know

[@mrIsakify]

Love the armor tier lists and I love your perspective on things like this in film and TV. Keep em coming

[@TrueRomancer04]

Love your channel, Jill. I'm an aspiring medieval cosplayer, and I wonder if you could do a video discussing the ins and outs of balancing protection vs mobility? Your armor tier lists seem to lean more toward the protection side, particularly in the matters of gorgets, helmets, pauldrons, and greaves, but it seems like those extra pieces would also potentially limit range of motion in addition to adding more weight.

[@JillBearup]

It’s an interesting question! Basically I am very forgiving of an assemblage of random armour bits if the character is meant to be poor or just picking stuff up, but if they’re meant to be important and they’re in plate I’m like “then why don’t they have *everything*?” I’m happy to rank historically inspired stuff higher even if it’s just a breastplate and a helmet, but I will automatically hate anything where metal and bare skin come into contact, because the chafing would be…intense. (Also it must be noted my tastes are subject to change over a relatively short period of time as I learn more about different kinds of historical armour. 😁)

[@TF_NowWithExtraCharacters]

I would also suggest checking out some HEMA or historical armour channels (I mostly watch a weapons channel, but this point gets mentioned sometimes) - armour back in the day is a lot less limiting than we think of these days, for the simple fact that having the ROM you need is literally a life or death situation on the battlefield. A lot of it comes down to the design and the amount of articulation, though of course more ROM means more gaps and less protection. That gets mitigated by wearing other stuff underneath though. Weight... Sadly there isn't too many ways around it (these are career soldiers, after all, they're fairly fit on average). Also somewhat mitigated by proper design, like having the belt support some of the weight of the upper body armour.

[@Bane_Amesta]

Same here, I want to know more exactly how armors work, so I won't disappoint Jill when drawing/designing a few ideas I have lol

[@ChaoticSorceror]

I highly recommend checking out Zak Evans, Metatron and Scholagladiatoria for stuff like that, they talk a lot about historical arms and armor and why you might make certain compromises for protection in favor of movement! tl;dr it varies wildly depending on the person. There are pictures of people on the same side in the same time period fighting side by side, one with more complete plate coverage, another basiclaly just with a breastplate and helmet.

[@stuartconrod8364]

I'd suggest you look at Brett Devereaux's blog, A Collection of Unmitigated Pedantry. He has a 'resources for worldbuilders' section, which includes a section on 'order of armor'. He is a historian and can generally reference how people historically prioritized gearing up or down. TLDR: - Head protection (not face) first; your brain is VERY important and it's fairly cheap and easy to protect your noggin. - Torso (chest and belly) next; that's where all your organs are and penetrating hits here will likely kill. Even if it's just textile (gambeson or similar), it's better than nothing. - Hips, upper thighs, shoulders; these are further out and need more mobility, but are still big targets that will disable a fighter if struck hard. You virtually never see protection for these body parts in history without head and torso first. - Extremities like lower legs, forearms, hands, feet, etc. They need the most mobility, they're the hardest targets to aim for, and a hit here is less likely to incapacitate. You kind of see this order in modern body armor - even for WW2 era trench-dwellers, steel helmets were still worn. Present-day soldiers still wear helmets and enough armor on their torsos to protect from bullets, but nothing for hips/limbs.

[@chrishuntley8369]

I’m sorry that i missed this when it came out... the reference to season 1 of the West Wing was priceless and dropped me to the ground laughing! 🤣

[@TF_NowWithExtraCharacters]

If I ever get round to trying to write a medieval fantasy story I'm going to include a female mage who specifically wears dangly jingly metal bits for combat, just to mess around with people and distract them (sexies aside, shiny metal bits catching the sunlight can be unexpectedly blinding). The kind of outfit that would make slave Leia look like a churchgoer. But it's mostly a PR stunt, that outfit also comes fully loaded with magical shielding accessories. That's the outfit for combat and meeting important people, of course. Other times she's in regular, sensible clothes.

[@scottmcintyre2809]

IIRC wasn't that part of the point of those staffs Asian warrior monks carried with the big ring with all the little rings hanging from it, and the swords ? Just to create noise/motion from a direction your opponent might not expect and throw them off their game a little bit? Same with those swords with the line of rings along the backside of the blade.

[@TF_NowWithExtraCharacters]

@@scottmcintyre2809 Possibly. I heard they might also be meant to catch sword thrusts, not sure about how accurate that is.

[@toddkes5890]

The other option is for the magic-user to dress like a noble. A noble should be taken alive for ransom, and is not expected to get into a fight. So a wizard dressed as a noble will try to hide from the fight, then surprise fireball.

[@introspectiver1787]

@@scottmcintyre2809 The khakkhara. It was primarily used to alert others to the buddhist's presence. It could also be used as a weapon, but more like a spear/staff hybrid, not to throw people off.

[@introspectiver1787]

In a battle such kind of armour would be useless. Unless it's polished to the nth degree, it won't be shiny enough to be blinding and the dependence on sunlight is a weakness indoors or in darker spaces. As for distracting people, against anyone with any combat training that is antagonistic they will be thinking less 'sexy' and more 'I'm taking advantage of this to kill'. They ay even actively be encouraged to attack viciously.

[@Comicsluvr]

I love this video and your style in general. You talk about the technical aspects but with humor to keep it interesting. Plus, accent so bonus points there. Well done.

[@jackielinde7568]

Regarding the Macbeth lack of helmets. This might be more for stage/film purposes than historical accuracy. The reason is that in film and stage productions, you do so much story telling with closeups on the face. When you put something in the way, like a mask and/or helmet, you're blocking one of the major means humans communicate with each other. So they may be forgoing the helmets in order to get those facial cues. I got this from watching the KZbin channel Cinema Therapy, where filmmaker Alan Seawright constantly brings this up, especially when discussing how film makers get masked characters (like Spiderman) to emote through the mask. (It's a good channel to watch for many reasons, not just breaking down how movies are made.)

[@solardwagon1526]

Between Cinema Therapy, Cinema Wins, and Jill... life is good. Also Jill did mentioned that she gives the cinema stuff a relative pass on helmets.

[@JohnNathanShopper]

She said “KZbin has, like, *other* people for that.” 🤣

[@Smeeeeeghead]

I'd buy a mug with "Just stab me now" on it.

[@Elbrasch]

And it's true in so many situations!

[@Nanenna]

Honestly this tier list is top tier. Of all the fun names for various categories I've seen this one is the best, they're all both fun and functional.

[@patricksmith804]

I'd have to call Leliana's armor pretty good, though your points about the metal on bare skin and the armor on the right arm are spot on. It would offer some protection and appears to be highly mobile (once you loose the right arm armor). To my untrained, armature eye, it looks like a cross of Spartan and Roman armor with some sex appeal.

[@martind2520]

Agreed, there's no way it's bottom teir.

[@TankensteinMonster]

And it ends with a West Wing quote, once again, well done

[@ashaide]

The Adepta Sororitas are wearing Power armor. So aside from the lack of helmet (the Sphess Mehreens have reasons [tm] for that but I forgot what it is for the Sister of Battle), everything below the neck is protected in armor that is both flexible and can withstand at least a .50 cal shell, if I recall my WH40k lore correctly. So that corset is probably just for sh**s and giggles, unless someone more adept at WH40k lore than me (I'm more SW and Middle Earth) can say otherwise.

[@averageeughenjoyer6429]

Douge Van Dire was just horny

[@gergokerekes4550]

they can't really bend that much forward, their power armor is better than "basic" but is way, way behind the space marine gear, no on-board "machine spirit" , no linkage to the wearers body and a few others. and yeah, regalia is big with them, as the arm of the church they are pretty faithful, and want to show that too.

[@l0stndamned]

The corset (and some of the other stylisations) is there to help make it clear to others that the Sister is female. The religious orders in the setting were banned from having a force of "Men under arms", so giving Iron Man suits to angry nuns was seen as the way around that limitation.

[@johnforsyth7987]

Love your ratings videos. I remember seeing Excalibur when it came out. Mordred was such an over-the-top villain. The same actress that played Morgana in this film went to play Queen Elizabeth. (About 35 years later.)

[@marcbuckley2455]

I'd love a video on how well Disney princesses could fight in their respective dresses(if you can make this happen please do)

[@1257Dark]

I now have a mental image of you choreographing a stage combat rendition of the West Wing. I now need this in my eyeballs.

[@jackielinde7568]

Technically, Conan has leather poudrons AND a leather cod piece. You know, in case another barbarian plants a size 14 fur-lined leather boot into said crotch. Also, having worn a cup in martial arts training (more than 35 years ago) I can attest that cups and cod pieces are not that effective. Between that and a well placed shot with a soccer ball during PE class, it's a wonder I have a daughter. ;)

[@classicslover]

I don't play hockey, but a hockey goalie cup would have been the way to go. Those things survive 170 km an hour (105.633 miles an hour) strikes from a very hard focused object. A low velocity comparatively squishy soccer ball would have been a joke to one of those.

[@jackielinde7568]

@@classicslover Um, we weren't required to wear a cup in middle school PE class. And you can still inflict pain with a glancing blow (as many martial artists will attest) off the cup. (Or at least that's the way it was back in the 80s.

[@classicslover]

@@jackielinde7568 Not sure about the inflicting pain with a glancing blow off the cup, when I've taken direct hits with no cup and not even flinched. Plus, FYI, a goalie cup has extended padding beyond the cup. And requirements are irrelevant. If you're susceptible to that pain then you wear what you want to prevent it!

[@alacnaythegreat1054]

He's been drinking from the keg of glory. We're to bring him all the muffins and bagels in the land.

[@lordjulian4263]

In defense of Leliana I have to say that I think that it does make some sense for her do wear some sort of "armor" on her drawing arm since, yes, she is an archer, but not exclusively, so the right arm is also her main swordarm. But regardless of that I would realy enjoy a rewiew of the actual in-game armor of Dragon 'Age: Origins' since that is considreably different from the scoolgirl-armor and some of the lower tier armor at least seemed to be kind of reasonable. Anyway, as always it was great fun to watch you demolish fantasy armor designs :)

[@DX795Q]

As a counterpoint, her concept art shows the armor on the correct arm. They obviously just mixed it up without thinking about it.

[@lordjulian4263]

@@DX795Q Well that's interesting and sad...

[@michaelgrouse7850]

Hilarious and informative as always. I am right there with you: "Why give men good armor and women bare midriffs"? Sigh. Please review anything and everything from 'The Lord of the Rings" movies. (The actual armor sets)

[@WarmLillie]

There a difference of casual look trying to be armor. And armor that fail at being being at actual armor.

[@tirirana]

I really love the fact that most skimpy magic armour in D&D grants a deflection modifier and that in German deflection modifier and distraction modifier is the same word.

[@jacktough]

8:36 Clearly C-3PO and Mega-Maid finally got together...

[@VictoriaStarratt]

And C-3PO’s dad was Agemenon…

[@Lina-mt8cx]

I think Dragon Age female amor came a long way and by the third game they look pretty realistic most the time (I think). Leliana's outfit was improved as well.

[@RainaEmms]

Great video. Total nit... the "woman" tossing the glitter on Mordred in Excalibur is Morgana. Apparently it was part of a ritual (partly implied in the movie to be magic) that she had been doing through most of his growing up years.

[@jeffarmstrong1308]

I rewatched this film just a couple fo weeks ago. Morgana was actually casting a protective spell to protect her son - this was visualised in the film by handfuls of glitter. Given the way the stuff gets *everywhere* I hope the outfits everyone was wearing for scene got a really good laundering afterwards.

[@Debbiebabe69]

Its a magic spell that makes the armour invulnerable to all weapons 'forged of this earth'. Hence why only Excalibur could pierce the armour.

[@ericsaari2901]

Somehow only just found your channel. Went on a bit of a tear and watched more than a few videos, and promptly decided to subscribe. Really like what you do and enjoy your wit and the content. Thanks for that!

[@angeldutchess2996]

I love how in Dragon Age Origins all the female armour is 'sexy fantasy armour' and then by Inquisition every lady is properly and practically armoured. (Looking at Cassandra and Aveline here- even Leliana is geared up well for a spy master rogue in the third game.)

[@gergokerekes4550]

the medium category maybe, but metal armors are proper bulk on all races and genders even in origins.

[@Brittanysplittany]

As an artist who loves to draw fantasy characters, I love your videos, Jill!! I would love a video about chain mail vs lighter chain shirts and how someone could style them. Trying to draw realistic outfits for both in-your-face combatants and more distance fighters who need a slighter feel.

[@etcetera1995]

Also let's be entirely fair with Conan, Gotcha Guys: *that isn't a sexual fantasy.* Conan the Barbarian is a straight male *power* fantasy. More often than not, that kind of character, a musclebound hulk, isn't supposed to be sexy eye candy. He's supposed to look strong and intimidating, not hot.

[@pwnmeisterage]

Who said he's a sexual fantasy?

[@jon-paulfilkins7820]

think all the "actual armour" in Excalibur is top notch. Well except for the once scene where I'm feeling.. "That Must chafe".

[@jackielinde7568]

Jill, please explain to me why "It's not actually Armor" is in the C tier list spot, and now in the D or F tier spots. I could see an argument for "Just stab me now" being the F tier spot, because it could be confused as armor, leading someone to think they have more protection than they actually do and dying because of it. "Could be worse" should be in the C tier spot above both of those options. It implies there is SOME protection being provide, where as the other two categories clearly do not provide any protection at all.

[@Debbiebabe69]

easy. Its rated above the 'could be worse' because it is not actually TRYING to be armour. Why are Morgana and Leia wearing them outfits? NOT to protect against weapon hits, so there is nothing wrong with it. On the other hand, the armour in the D-E spots IS trying to be used as armour to protect the user in battle, which it clearly cannot do.

[@anna-maymoon1001]

My actual words when I saw this video: oooohhhh I love a good tier list Jill, 5 seconds later: you lot seem to enjoy a tier list so here we go 🤣

[@lsual]

Was about to comment on the sisters of battle power armor, but several people already did. So I'm just doing it for the algorithm. Like your work, keep up with it =).

[@riffsbitch]

mad props for using one of my favorite West Wing quotes towards the end there.

[@TeamDoc312]

I love the "There is a woman in the picture throwing glitter at him" statement on the Mordred detail. That woman is Helen Mirren...she could throw fecal matter at him and it would still come out golden! Sorry, I just had to throw that out there. Love your content!

[@xj40002]

Pretty fun video, appreciate the dedication to the need for helmets. One little niggle the sisters of battle from 40k is technically power armor (not a leather corset) which in canon does restrict range of motion. cosplay wise it's pretty hard to represent power armor without restricting range of motion or looking not like power armor.

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

"Does a major bloodvessel run through that body part? If yes it should be covered, not laid bare."

[@lawrence5520]

Ending on a West Wing quote = always a win!

[@calvin3379]

IMO Kayle deserves a tier of her own: Just Stab Myself Now. She has a solid spike, right above her stomach. That's going clean through and doing her enemies job for her.

[@poisonedoak6563]

Side note- as Kayle in LOL levels up, her model changes. She sprouts more wings and gets more glowy. And she removes the helmet. Yeah.