Jillian's Law goes into effect Monday, but is the state of Tenn. ready for it?

[@Girl_Next_Door.931]

That’s common sense isn’t it? If they aren’t competent to stand trial they need to be getting help.

[@wirelesmike73]

💯

[@Christianzionest]

Ya do u know Jesus Christ as your lord and savior if not would u like to know Jesus Christ?

[@colenewaltersmusicandother9330]

They will be able to enforce this on people that some will not deserve to be there. It is all about the guns. 🤫

[@wirelesmike73]

@@colenewaltersmusicandother9330 No, this is performative. It's all just political theater meant to direct all of the attention to anything and everything but guns, so that they don't have to actually do anything to address the gun problem. They'll talk about the courts, the laws, the funding, mental health, and how hard it's going to be to implement and enforce this new law. But, not one single word about the gun - the one thing that enabled that mentally disturbed repeat offender to kill that beautiful young woman from so far away, without knowing, and without even trying. This is all so that they can avoid the entire gun conversation and blame her death, and that family's loss on anything and everything but.

[@BlackoutPatriot]

😂 they said the same about Biden but there's no hope for him

[@Theire1]

society pays a heavy price for poor mental health care

[@michaeltaylor4984]

Thank your Democrat 'elected officials ' for the demise of mental health decades ago. They got rid of it to push their Communist agenda. It's backfiring against them as we speak

[@handyadams3319]

2 million for the budget. Bureaucracy will eat that before 1 bed is used. Offices, lights ,heat, salaries, transportation and so on. WITHOUT PROPER FUNDING THIS LAW IS A SICK JOKE.

[@garylefevers]

So Tennessee does not have the money to fund this but has the money to pay for for privately owned prisons. Right. 🙄

[@bevmacdonald9008]

​​@@katiesioux7757 the state does indeed "fund" the prisons. Did you assume the inmates themselves pay rent or room & board ? Or that there is convict insurance underwriters who pay? In this case, the state pays yet does not own the prisons. If the state owned them they would be a taxpayer owned asset, could be run more cheaply as a non-profit public service with no need to generate profits, and voters could know how its run without applying for a court order and would have a say in how it's run by contacting their local elected representatives. Prisons run for profit is a conflict of public interests, imho.

[@bevmacdonald9008]

​​​@@katiesioux7757there is a base contract amount the state pays and then inmate counts, extras, and overages get billed to the government as well. The arrangement essentially not only guarantees their profit margin, it also socializes the cost of it. All while limiting leagal liability of the state ( irony) and shielding the institution's payroll and practices from direct public scrutiny.

[@bobbafett1849]

​@@katiesioux7757 private prisons profit off of We The People's taxes AND they fund politicians who regulate them

[@katiesioux7757]

@@bevmacdonald9008 lmfao convict insurance,nice No, I thought they pimped them out as labor to provide profit. Chain gangs and licence plates I assumed...

[@Art-w1l8x]

Private prisons for profit is legalized slavery. The Reagan admin got rid of mental institutions & we're seeing the repercussions now. Something about saving money & selling land with commercial property corps trickling down profits to everyday Americans. Go figure that.

[@SkaggsFamily]

"Speed Limit 24" in front of the mental-health facility seems a little crazy.

[@roberthepburn-gr4fq]

IT'S Tennessee so the quality of care at state run facilities will be substandard at best

[@KeystoneCarcajou]

there's a reason the asylums are all shut down. If you've seen the VA, then you know why.

[@roberthepburn-gr4fq]

@@KeystoneCarcajou the VA has made giant strides in the care of veterans Don't knock the VA

[@KeystoneCarcajou]

@@roberthepburn-gr4fq According to who? Ours here SWATs veterans.

[@roberthepburn-gr4fq]

@@KeystoneCarcajou you are probably young if you want to see what the VA looked like just after the Vietnam war all you need to do is watch born on the 4th of July back when they used Drs who weren't allowed to practice medicine in public hospitals because of their malpractice suites and the incompetent nursing staff And the hospital smelled like a combination of pinesol and death

[@graciefreebush394]

Facts. I can't believe they passed such a logical law. No funding kinda makes it a joke.

[@NotYoung3592]

not competent doesn't mean unaccountability for your actions.

[@yumatom]

Legally, that’s pretty much what it does mean. You lack the mental competence to be held accountable.

[@lauriivey7801]

I'm sure they could find the money ... maybe take it out of administration fees paid to government entities, or gun-grabbing departments

[@willi-fg2dh]

let's stop with the "gun-grabbing" remarks . . . you'll just force someone to point out that the money could be obtained through licensing fees on guns.

[@lauriivey7801]

@@willi-fg2dh I'm sure they're having more than enough roundtable discussions of all their options, anything I could wouldn't be anything new, unfortunately.

[@willi-fg2dh]

@@lauriivey7801 what i said was just an attempt to get you off the "gun-grabber" hobbyhorse and to, maybe, try to find realistic solutions as to where the money might come from . . .

[@lauriivey7801]

@@willi-fg2dh Like I said, sure they're having roundtables ... I missed the gun reference in my reply, though

[@kilvarough]

The financial part should fall to the State, once in police custody you're under the responsibility of the judicial system.

[@NotYoung3592]

Taxpayers pay for this. Period.

[@cheryal2809]

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[@1anthonybrowning]

As a society, we used to lock up all the crazies in sanitariums. They all got turned loose on the street because of a Supreme Court ruling,IIRC. This may run a foul of the Supreme Court again…

[@johndupont8628]

Remember to thank Raygun for this BS

[@1anthonybrowning]

@@johndupont8628 I think it was SCOTUS, not Reagan. I just checked, 1975 SCOTUS decision O’Conner v. Donaldson the SCOTUS ruled that a patient had to be a danger to themself or others first confinement to be constitutional. Cant blame Reagan, he wasn’t president in 1975, that was Ford.

[@Look_What_You_Did]

Interesting the only only concerns are. Making sure it is enforce, and staffing the facility. Everybody else can see how this will be abused. More tail wagging the dog. Education, healthcare, food and shelter security, employment. Those are the pillars that break the cycle. Instead you want to force treatment after the train has left the tracks.

[@bobquartlemigula2351]

You see all those things you (rightly) listed would require the ultra wealthy to pay at least a little tax money and when you have those in power dedicated to ensuring that the ultra wealthy pay zero in taxes and in reality get other people’s tax money GIVEN TO THEM (Trump was given a $70 million tax return he didn’t deserve when he didn’t even pay a single dime INTO taxes) that doesn’t allow for supporting such things. They also want education, both primary, secondary and college to be reserved for the rich and powerful exclusively so they can become oligarchs in America instead of that title being Russia specifically.

[@timlewis7218]

She was beautiful.😢

[@AtroposLeshesis]

This is ridiculous. When they start putting people in there based off of a Twitter post don't start complaining

[@AppalachianPatriot]

A criminal filling out an affidavit……….yeah right.

[@geoffreylee5199]

Stop naming laws after people, say what it’s for!

[@wendybutler1681]

Think of the tax revenue if they legalized weed. Fund mental health care with those taxes.

[@evelynwaugh4053]

That isn't how it's worked out in CA, despite good intentions. Firstly, the legal dispensary Marijuana is expensive, so there is still a market for illegally grown and distributed (untaxed) Marijuana. Secondly, I haven't noticed a reduction in Marijuana related crime. There is still Mexican cartel involvement in very serious crimes related to Marijuana- murders, dispensary robberies, and robberies of legal grows.

[@sandgroper1970]

The objective of the law is great, but when you don’t ensure adequate resources to meet current needs. Add this law on top it will just mean that anyone incompetent to stand trial is either released to maybe do the same thing again, or they are forced to put someone else out on the street or into a shelter.

[@TheTishy44]

Because they don’t pay their workers enough. TN, good luck.

[@glennhubbard5008]

When I heard the name, I knew.

[@shanemcconnell1736]

I like it

[@espenzink1031]

What happens if the courts happens to judge wrong sometimes will the individual get there guns back how does that work?

[@americanassociationagainst7981]

Put them in Lois Deberry Special Needs where all the other prisoners with mental health are incarcerated with crimes.

[@jamesbell739]

LMAO!!! This is what legislating for click bait instead of the people looks like.

[@WilliamSaverino]

Perp's name says it all.

[@Look_What_You_Did]

What does it say?

[@hanovergreen4091]

She wasn't a perp. She was a victim. FFS

[@TheMrMused]

$2 Million is an insulting figure to attach to support this law. Why bother at all if you're not going to even bother being in the ballpark of adequately funding it? Oh, right .. the feel-good Bravo Sierra. "See? We did a thing!" ..no, you didn't do a thing. You made it *look* like you did a thing.

[@Collin9637]

When have mental hospitals helped anyone when it’s been a documented institution of abuse

[@eddiearmijo6635]

O No trump and His Attorneys have had it Now. All those Judges the Lunitic has Lost too.

[@meatpopsicle1567]

I think this new law applies to you, buddy.

[@mikelouis9389]

Walk stupidly and carry a limp....stick.

[@tananario23]

But you can waste time clutching your pearls about people’s personal life. Republicans.

[@cartoonraccoon2078]

But... But didn't Jesus promise us even crazy people could have several guns on them at all times?

[@TrilobitesRTasty]

Republicans have no clue how to govern.

[@meatpopsicle1567]

Yeah, the new law applies to you, doesn't it.

[@TheMagician2024]

Memtal health is now telehealth. This is a waste

[@garylefevers]

How so? It reaches more people I would think.

[@cartoonraccoon2078]

Since most of "memtal" health is talking, and perhaps sending in a prescription, this is fine.

[@TheMagician2024]

@@garylefevers because you don't need to have someone in your physical proximity they just want to take control over the person including their body they want to restrain them they could just be in the comfort of their own home

[@SmokeGrinder]

This law WILL be abused and weaponized.

[@Christianzionest]

Is this everywhere?

[@cesargeronimo1502]

It's a Tennessee state law so only in Tennessee.

[@Christianzionest]

@@cesargeronimo1502 ohh ok thank you so much

[@csnide6702]

nope - just racist Tennessee

[@BlackoutPatriot]

​@csnide6702 that card doesn't work anymore

[@zacharyforeal]

​@@BlackoutPatriotSo, racism magically disappeared? I live in Indiana. We still have three klan chapters. The racist game is still active. Therefore the cards are still in play.

[@mrpaimon-zp9qh]

Tennessee will end up like California if they are not careful and I mean great debt !!!

[@robertward8035]

California is fine. Seriously, we been flush, had extra and been short, but we continue to make more money than Tennessee could ever imagine....... In fact, we help pay for you, have for decades.😎🇺🇸🌊💙🤣😂

[@HustleMuscleGhias]

@@robertward8035 a 68 billion dollar budget deficit and 250 billion in unfunded liabilities isn't something to be bragging about. How about all the headquarters of major corporations fleeing your states at an alarming rate? Keep guzzling down that copium though. Tennessee has a balanced budget every year.

[@johnking6252]

Thanks RWR ! hahahaha hahahaha. 🔵🇺🇲🔵

[@wirelesmike73]

If someone is committing crimes and isn't competent to stand trial, that person shouldn't be released without some barrier to the public. Mental illness isn't a free pass to go on being a threat, burden, or danger to the rest of society. The state has a responsibility to the public's safety (including those with mental illness). That's what we pay taxes for. That is the purpose of government. If our legislators and so-called "leaders" can't manage our tax dollars to do the job, they don't need to be in office. State Republicans have had a super majority for more than 6 years, and they've yet to make Tennesseeans any safer or deal with the societal issues that perpetuate crime. The only thing they're interested in protecting and serving are their donors, their campaigns, and corporations. They don't care about people. They don't care about communities. They don't care about small businesses or families. They only care about money and control. Time to step aside and let some actual public servants do the work of governing and running a state. Republicans can't govern. Vote them out. _Vote Blue!_

[@BlackoutPatriot]

Your not going to get anything better but only worse if you vote blue

[@Look_What_You_Did]

You need help, and probably an education that exceeds the 6th grade.

[@robertward8035]

​@@BlackoutPatriotnaw, your simply wrong,😊

[@mikepalmer1971]

I a, sure this law will not be missed at all. I trust nothing the government does.

[@anthonybarker2087]

More ways to target guns and gun owners. "2 million alloted statewide would be ate up in just Davidson County in a few months." Either these facilities are super expensive or everyone is crazy. How many people are getting off of gun convictions because they are mentally incompetent? Very few ?

[@JamesAllmond]

Uh, Georgia had laws and a place like that. Was in Milledgeville, Ga. Long since closed and all those folks are out on the streets, somewhere. This is all about health being a for profit business. Sweet, only country in the world. Isn't it great.

[@richardhead3211]

i call bullshit

[@smokingjoe9864]

We all had laws like that. One flew over the cookoos nest. You get committed for life. Before the commitment laws. We just picked out a tree branch.

[@lotwizzard1748]

​@@richardhead3211your belief is not required

[@richardhead3211]

@@lotwizzard1748 i still call bullshit

[@lotwizzard1748]

@@richardhead3211 u r part of the problem

[@terryowen6759]

And Tennessee isn't going to offer Health insurance or Mental health insurance to low income residence in the State

[@paulrodgers252]

they are to provide for the military citizens of the State not the civil persons since civil or military is establish in Constitution, supreme Law, Amendment XIV Section 3 since 9 July 1868;

[@BlackoutPatriot]

Tennessee doesn't give out welfare anymore

[@meatpopsicle1567]

Well, move to California, then.

[@terryowen7105]

Lol... I did and I've had California healthcare for 5 years now. I didn't know that when I moved here but if I still lived in Tennessee I wouldn't have had healthcare ​@@meatpopsicle1567

[@MelissaThompson432]

​@@BlackoutPatriotthey still collect it from the federal government, though. They have a fund of undistributed TANF money in excess of $717M. They get $190M in federal funds each year and distribute one of the smallest percentages in the states to actual TANF registered individuals, less than $400 per month for a family of 3.

[@shawncollins656]

Who gets to decide who is incompetent? What are the criteria?

[@leward7788]

very important point of yours. since it's subjective, that's always a slippery slope. being a unique individual is not a crime but acting crazed during a crime is not a pass

[@jimthompson8947]

So I defer to mental institutions all law enforcement whom seek to kidnap me. Well, fair is fair.

[@andybunn5780]

As a resident of Tennessee, I imagine it has a lot to do with how closely you follow Conservative Christian or "white people with money" stereotypes. Notice that you being actually guilty of a crime isn't necessary (it's before the trial). Notice that they can keep you locked up there literally forever, if they decide they "can't arrange an outpatient treatment plan" even after the condition/episode ceases. Notice I. The language of the bill that they literally describe these people as "mentally defective." The bill describes no criteria whatsoever other than a court said so. I don't see this going down a good road.

[@tedmoser3657]

Hopefully, you'll see the number of people considered "unfit" for trial go way down.

[@Hoonter101]

The person that shot her should be put in prison

[@kjpcgaming9296]

So Tenn doesn't have enough space for all the people they think are crazy? In there state? Tenn what are you saying? Your state is full of crazy people?

[@meatpopsicle1567]

*their

[@centredoorplugsthornton4112]

Because Tennessee. Weaponize decorum in the state legislature. Money for prisons and death row but not mental health.

[@somersetcace1]

The reality is, if you're going to remove people from society, you have to pay for it, and you have to provide them `humane conditions.` It's not cheap. So, it really comes down to how serious TN is about this law. Passing a law without the ability to enforce it, is a useless endeavor that is far more about politics than protecting society, let alone getting mental health care for the individuals in question.

[@coldspring624]

No matter how you look at it the citizen pays. If they are on the streets you pay if they are jailed you pay and if they go to mental health care you pay. The issue is corrupt practices that raid the public funds. There is the real challenge. We know how politics and THE business go hand in hand.

[@L0NGRNGE]

Why do we pay taxes for Obamacare if 80% of people still dont have insurance. Seriously, I want to know.

[@superczech69]

This guy is the impetus behind the band, Big Head Todd and the Monsters.

[@alancadieux2984]

Is Joe going to be sent there? He was deemed unfit to stand trial...

[@1cdmap]

It sounds like an attempt to jail all gun owners.

[@csnide6702]

Tennessee- Where racism is put on display in the State House for the whole World to see..... !

[@22trem]

"Racism" - The cry of a desperate person....

[@dp.2766]

How? There’s more crazy white folks than “crazy “minority “ folks… just by percentage……🤔🤔 And more poor white folks than minorities altogether. I guarantee if you want to run a tally, poor crazy and white is gonna outnumber all the other folks who’ s poor and crazy. Maybe even uglier too.

[@meatpopsicle1567]

Whip out that card, when you have no valid argument!

[@csnide6702]

@@meatpopsicle1567 valid argument was on display for all to see.... ? GROW UP TRUMPIE

[@jasonholt1853]

Correct. They got away with a lot of antics playing the race card in an over tolerant house

[@billgrandone3552]

You mean to tell me that Tennessee just passed a law that places violent offenders who are not competent to go to trial in mental institutions rather than just sending them HOME? Are you kidding me? So who was supposed to be monitoring the perp's mental status in the meantime and providing him with psychotropic meds and psychiatric counselling? ---the local drug dealer and reruns of Dr. Phil? In my state a person like that is involuntarily committed to a secure mental hospital until examined by a psychiatrist and treated until deemed able to be tried. It's been that way for DECADES. i guess Tennessee proves that old adage about government planning " No law will be passed protecting pulic safety until enough people have been killed" Tennessee, just because you are a red state is no excuse for being stupid. A reason that you are stupid, YES. But still NO Excuse;

[@robertward8035]

Living in the MAGA paradise 😎

[@billgrandone3552]

@@robertward8035 Reading "Trailer Life".

[@Doc5thMech]

Maybe the doctors should have their licenses revoked and serve time for massive failure to do their required job under these circumstances.

[@graciefreebush394]

That's logical. Wtf Tennessee? You made a logical law. Well done.

[@Missunderstood103]

Best comment on this page.

[@m.r.jarrell3725]

No law named after anybody has ever been good for the people of this country.

[@katiesioux7757]

🙄

[@katiesioux7757]

Miranda rights, amber alerts are two good ones. LoL settle down

[@m.r.jarrell3725]

@@katiesioux7757 Miranda is not, and was not, a law. It was a legal case. No application here. And Amber alerts, while seemingly useful, often do the opposite of what they are intended and twist up innocent people. Named laws are bad on their face on in the civil rights arena, as they are always based upon emotion and rarely, logic. Thanks anyway, comrade.

[@redelephantgirl]

How do you deny access to a firearm in an open carry state??? And who's going to regulate it?

[@jerrywatt6813]

Sounds like DEI hire in the justice department guilty of murder !😊

[@user-ktm890rider]

Why not send Biden there he’s completely mentally gone 🤪

[@paulrodgers252]

need to remind the Court of that State that civil or military is establish in Constitution, supreme Law, Amendment XIV Section 3 since 9 July 1868; establishing 2 Classes: civil on the (left) not right or military on the right and the or (that or this) Rule;

[@mikelouis9389]

Just another slice of red state performative nothing burger pie.

[@meatpopsicle1567]

I didn't know California was a red state....

[@mikelouis9389]

@@meatpopsicle1567 There's many things you don't know.

[@meatpopsicle1567]

@@mikelouis9389 I know what you are, though.

[@mikelouis9389]

@@meatpopsicle1567 And I know what you aren't.

[@meatpopsicle1567]

@@mikelouis9389 That's using the old noggin!

[@SuzetteRobertson]

2 millions dollars is a drop in the bucket. When you compare the innocent deaths of other's. Come on you can do better than that.After sending all that $$$$$ to Ukraine.

[@robertward8035]

What's sadder is the money sent to the convicted felon traitor trumpy...😅

[@meatpopsicle1567]

I seriously doubt the State of Tennessee is sending "all that $$$$$" to Ukraine.