Jim Cornette on Dave Meltzer's Constant Tweets About Him

From Episode 353 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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[@jrich9017]

Listening to Meltzer speak is insufferable. The only thing that man has ever wrestled is the English language.

[@travisheckel5576]

😂😂

[@johngallagher72]

Um...uh ....um ...so ...you know like ...um your comment is um (pregnant pause) five star worthy ...Dave Meltzer

[@jrich9017]

@@johngallagher72 exactly!

[@SolidMike84]

He has the cadence of a typical questionative teenage girl. "Like like, uuuuuuuuuuuhm, youknow. He came iiiiin(?)". It's like he tones every ending of a comment with an invisible question mark. And look, I'm mumbling like a sonofabitch so I'm in no position to say anything. But if I'm gonna be on a podcast or whatever the hell it's seen as: I'd try to atleast not clog everything up with useless meandering that leads to his endless supply of "ums youknows likelike" and his constant interruptions of a much more qualified speaker. For fucks sake, I think I'd rather hear Russo speak than Meltzer.

[@seanmanscott]

@@SolidMike84 imagine a conversation between Russo and Meltzer. "Bro, I made Stone Cold and The Rock bro. Bro, it was the greatest ever bro." "Uhhhhh, yeah. Uh, you know, the Attitude Era...uh, five stars."

[@TheMagnificentMongoSlade]

Meltzer has never booked anything, never wrote a show in his life and yet he is treated as a Swami by these goobers online. Meltzer isn't qualified to be a talent scout, booker or anything other than an knowledgeable viewer. He's the wrestling OBSERVER Not participant, booker, talent etc. Observer. He should observe.

[@jedediahcoulbourne1791]

Quick clean and to the point, I like it

[@fallenchao]

Exactly

[@DolchOfHate]

Metlzer is a glorified mark, that's it.

[@Mrran4life]

Seriously who the fuck is Dave Meltzer... y do think he’s the god of wrestling

[@TheSportsfan35]

@Magnificent Mongo Slade, you're 100% right, he & PWI'S Mike Johnson & other dirt sheet writers come across as know- it- alls & "experts" on the business & don't know shit at all.

[@nilanniruthan]

Meltzer is part of the movement that destroyed pro-wrestling by convincing younger fans that doing a hundred moves was more important than being a larger-than-life personality. Normal fans want to see emotional feuds and pageantry, not two "athletes" kicking out of each others' finishing moves while the commentators tell us it's a "sport".

[@peterlabarbera6741]

This is spot on. Some false finishes are awesome but seeing someone kick out of spear or any other finisher 5 times in a match is pure bs. Bring back more personal fueds and better ring psychology.

[@justin_your_cousin9273]

Dave likes just pro wrestling, not the entertainment aspect

[@MrT571]

@@peterlabarbera6741 it did work a couple of times. Like at WM31 with Roman refusing to die and then Seth taking advantage. Other than that it's basically videogame wrestling. A finish should be a finish.

[@GLPitt1]

Yeah. I can't understand how so few younger wrestlers can balance fancy moves with charisma and character building. You need both these days. And they need to stop hating on big guys that get pushed. There are not enough big guys that can somewhat work these days.

[@jackstraw4222]

@@peterlabarbera6741 totally agree ,iv been saying this for a long time as well ,5 star matches dont bring ratings up and any women's matches that go on longer than 3 min are not believable.

[@jackieparmz]

Being a fan of Jim and Brian is so rewarding. Practically everything they’ve said for years now has aged so well.

[@adamhachey8461]

Biggggggg fuckinnnn factssssss

[@dpbferguson]

Jim wanted El Generico to talk. Look at Sami Zayn's promos now. Jim was right!

[@saloz9483]

It's insane he never talked before since how good he is in wwe.

[@momentarystudies2951]

@@saloz9483 Sami is the most entertaining IC champion after The MIZ...

[@Cnut_the_grape]

@@momentarystudies2951 Jericho was pretty entertaining too

[@Aj6711]

BIG FACTS

[@mcomiskey7]

Wouldn't you know who won the pony?

[@richardauthement3105]

a solid hour of jim cutting a promo on dave meltzer. dear god the russo rants of old are welcoming a new acolyte to the pantheon.

[@speranza9415]

It's almost like they've found out that I needed a video of Jim ranting about Meltzer. I swear I searched for this last night while playing 2K19 lmao

[@ad206]

It's even gotten to the point where Russo is now cutting promos on Meltzer going against Jim. 2020 is a strange time when Russo and Jim have a common enemy.

[@tysontomko]

Time to put my feet up and enjoy

[@DickiMoltisanti]

Lmaoo

[@btmz1753]

Jim Cornette fans are wired. You salivate over an old man talking shit about another old man. Your life is pathetic

[@jhoninfante8683]

"If you wrestle in the Tokyo Dome you get an extra star" -Dave Meltzer

[@marcespinoza6068]

He lost all credibility if he ever really had any when he broke his 5 star system for Omega and Okada. Those were 4 star matches at best, absolutely amazing spots but not outstanding wrestling matches.

[@boosterkidrg]

@@marcespinoza6068 Shibata vs Okada is better than all the Okada/Omega matches and even that match was too long and dragged out a bit in the middle but was great in the beginning and the end...

[@EmmanuelFreytes]

@@marcespinoza6068 plus if i might add, I would only rate them at 3 starts cause you knew all that shit was coreographed. A good match has to feel like theres really animosity between the two participants, or atleast it should make you forget its scripted. But with all the shit they did you knew in the spots that they were helping each other make the shit they were making

[@boosterkidrg]

@Nathaniel Baxter yeah I guess should have clarified better...I am not really a fan of matches that are more than 30 minutes but that just a personal preference...I know it was shorter than the Okada omega matches but to me it was still long; still my favorite Okada match especially because I love how it starts o like a wrestling match on the mat and Okada realizing Shibata is better than him when it comes to grappling and chain wrestling...

[@benjimcdonalds]

@@marcespinoza6068 he actually gave a ric flair match 6 stars in 1989 so you are wrong

[@natrixxvision6997]

The reason Jim Cornette hasn’t booked anything in several years....is because he doesn’t want to.

[@pauladams1915]

I'm just blown away by Jim's knowledge and how he can recall matches in such detail. The man is a legend

[@graham2sexy955]

Isn't that a part of the spectrum

[@ethanglenn7299]

@@graham2sexy955 it is

[@mattbeckley9483]

Cornett is not on the spectrum he's just the old guy with a billion and five stories understand Jim has worn every hat booked, managed ,produced ,creative and owner

[@HitmanKurt]

60 minutes of Jim ripping on Meltz 😂 I’ve stuck the kettle on and got the biscuits out..... strapped in 🙌🏻

[@11sdownie]

Haha love this comment

[@thatonebritishidiot3037]

That's a shout

[@chadk890]

Corny has fallen of a scaffold, got his head busted open and was even humiliated by a woman( Baby Doll) for this business and has given us real fans the Midnight Express ( both versions) and their classic matches, and introduced future HOF Big Bossman ( Bubba) ,not to mention Smokey Mountain was far superior to anything in AEW. Meltzer is a joke and AEW cheerleader.

[@85futureshock]

Don’t forget arguably saving WWE in the early 2000’s by being the head of the training school that produced some of their biggest stars.

[@chadk890]

@@85futureshock Exactly Thank you

[@rexventura4603]

Also atleast partially being the reason for the creation of The Hell in a Cell match

[@myquest666420]

@@rexventura4603 I was there for that match in STL, 1997 Badd Blood. I’ll never forget that night. Crazy to think Cornette was one of the minds behind it.

[@snakeey3zhiphop]

How does Jim's boot taste, Jesus.

[@mobileebikerentals2940]

This aged so well it's perfect

[@freddiemcrae428]

It keeps getting more and more relevant.

[@scottthegeneticfreaksteine393]

@@freddiemcrae428 seriously!!

[@therandom58]

@@scottthegeneticfreaksteine393more and more

[@hamilstarr4292]

Even better aging now

Dave “How Do You Do, Fellow Kids?” Meltzer.

[@totallykoolyeah]

wrestling's chris jenner .

[@TheWill1225]

Cornette vs Meltzer is the best feud in AEW which is sad cause only one of these folks actually works for AEW

[@Vagajammer]

*Cornette vs. AEW

[@christiankarlkarganilla2763]

@@Vagajammer It's still child's play compared to Cornette vs Russo lol

[@tobygreen4257]

The difference between Dave and Jim at this point is that Jim has done it and Dave has critiqued it. Which is fine I guess, but Dave has never had to adjust to the variables that can happen when you are managing personalities and everything else. Ring of Honor didn’t succeed because Jim left, ROH succeeded because Jim laid the groundwork for their future success.

[@51385jrod]

Cornet is spot-on and I'm 35. I was born in 85 and became a fan in the early 90s. I guess I'm out of touch as well cuz the s*** that's on now is horrible

[@dionius4549]

I like to compare aew to tna back in the day because they both are/were in the position of no 2 wrestling company. TNA was miles away better than AEW.

[@ricosalvaje5802]

I was born in 85 as well and this new wrestling is trash. Nobody sells anything, too many superkicks, too many false finishes.

42 here. Been watching since 85. First match I ever saw was in WWF. The Missing Link managed by Bobby Heenan whipped some jobber. A few months later I found AWA and then NWA. As a kid in the late 80s I watched everything I could find. WWF on Monday, Saturday, and Sunday. NWA Saturday and Sunday. UWF/Mid South Saturdays. AWA or World Class Monday through Friday. Even found the Maritimes and ICW a few times. Then everything I rented on VHS. Stayed loyal to WWF during the Monday Night Wars. Eventually in the mid 2000's I found ROH. When AEW was announced, as an old fan, I was genuinely excited. By the third show, they lost me. That show had a main event of Jericho vs Darby Allin for the AEW title in a Philly Street Fight. Ok a street fight is like a fall count anywhere, hardcore, no dq. Same rule is anything goes. So as the match gets going I hear JR say the ref will be enforcing the 5 count on the ropes. Hold up a minute. This is a street fight. There's no DQ. What the hell is the ref gonna do if a guy doesn't break the ropes on 5??? That was enough. I've tried to tune in here and there to AEW and I just can't get into it. I can watch NXT, but that's all I can watch from WWE. I was enjoying Corgan's NWA before covid hit. But when it comes to AEW, it's the fanbase I can't deal with. I have never encountered a bigger group of snobs in my life that flat out refuse to call AEW out when they shit the bed. Thank God I have FuboTV. I catch MLW on there quite a bit. Best stuff I've watched in the last year or so.

[@ricosalvaje5802]

@ Mlw is really good wrestling, good storylines. JACOB Fatu is a future star Imo

[@lifegoals9528]

@@ricosalvaje5802 Become friends/date the OP. Can't be coincidence you're both born in the same year when the earth has been going for 200,000 years or so. 1 in 200,000 and you matched, plus we'd all love a good romance for Jim Cornette's channel!

[@ssj7nick]

Dave Meltzer throws shade at Cornette in his podcasts, forums, and Twitter, then wonders why Jim cut all ties with him.

[@MetalShadowX]

I honestly never liked Meltzer. He spawned a generation of smart marks who think they know the business better than the people booking it, that the "cool" thing is to not boo/cheer the wrestlers, but the people who are in charge.

[@pandavelli8176]

You got it. Wrestling crowds nowadays are filled with these entitled annoying fux who think the show is about them and their ghey little chants

[@user-fu3fu4ye7j]

@@pandavelli8176 yup but now more and more people are realising so hopefully we will have another attitude era soon, it's coming.

[@travismcdonald6576]

Kind of like people in comment sections who think they know it all.

[@SugarRayTaylor]

We are now finding out why people of previous generations who actually knew what they were doing couldn't stand Dave. Guys like Dusty, Ole etc. They knew he was bad news and kept him at arm's length.

[@SugarRayTaylor]

@@user-fu3fu4ye7j the next pro wrestling boom will be when two guys in a sport like MMA get together and start working finishes. Just like how pro wrestling was born in the first place.

[@chrisfraser3435]

Dave Melter isn't even on Jim Cornettes level. He's is & always will be a gossip wrestling news letter writer 🙄

[@adammassingham3808]

35:27 35:28 35:30 35:51

[@jthom0027]

Seems like the existence of the Undisputed Era by itself destroys Meltzer's argument. They are top guys now and Cornette started them on that path years ago.

[@miguelfortinbras758]

I’m sure it’s just coincidental, but when Cornette points out flaws in WWE, NXT, ROH and Impact’s booking, the usual Observers don’t turn up to say he’s out of touch and so wrong and doesn’t know what he’s talking about. It’s only when it’s AEW. I guess wrestling is different there than it is everywhere else on Earth.

[@peterlee6374]

That’s the point, that’s why people say he’s biased Anything negative towards AEW and he goes off on one as if youve personally attacked him and his family Is Dave being paid?? Who knows BUT he has some sort of investment in AEW which is why totally goes defensive for AEW

[@mimoe7587]

@@peterlee6374 Not only is AEW the only promotion to ever aclnowledge and befriend him but one of the Young Buck's finishers is "The Meltzer driver" used to be The Indietaker but they renamed it after Dave's dad after his passing. They have Dave by his ego and his heart strings. He's an AEW stan for life.

[@peterlee6374]

@@mimoe7587 look at this week announcing during omega entrance that he broke meltzers star ratings They are playing Dave yet he can’t see it

[@emperorpalpatine1228]

AEW fans are Clowns. They think that shit with Jericho and MJF was "Gold" when it was actual trash. If WWE had done that, they would've shit all over it.

[@patrickgill7543]

@@emperorpalpatine1228 100%

[@richiehunt5097]

One must remember that Dave does market research...that of asking his teenage son and his friends, who Dave admits are not fans, what they think. It's really scientific.

[@teebird6952]

Jim pushed absolutely everyone he possibly could in ROH. Even the guys he thought sucked like Steen. The list of people Cornette didn't push in ROH that Meltzer is talking about is literally just the Young Bucks and Omega. And Jim was right to not push them. The Bucks were never over in Japan. Just sidekicks to a sidekick in an diluted faction. And they aren't over in the States either. Omega got over because of the booking. As we've seen now, without a serious guiding hand, Omega is not what he was in Japan. Not even close. Dave has a personal and professional stake in this. God knows what the personal aspect is, but it's clearly beyond relatively normal objectivity. And professionally, there's no way hes not being paid by AEW. None.

[@jamirimaj6880]

I swear Corny put a nice flavor on the final parts of that Steen-Generico feud, I mean watch their promos and you'll see.

[@aluminumsalmongames6277]

Weren't the Bucks like the nWo B-team of the Bullet Club? Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't they just second third bananas over in Japan? Because I've looked over a lot of their stuff and they just don't seem that remarkable. And these days are just more self-indulgent because of their cushy jobs.

[@ofs82]

Don't think Corny thought Steen sucked. He thought the gimmick sucked and didn't like the person, but he was happy with the ring work.

[@twoo57]

You’re right Omega. NJPW booked him wonderfully. Then he came to AEW, and he’s just been shit since. His feud with Moxley was literally the only thing interesting about his run so far. I love Omega but this is a fact.

[@aaronholman8288]

Exactly this was very well put

[@yungsusboi]

I think the thing people don't give Jim credit for is creating a lot of today's big talent such as the talent from TNA in the early 2000s like AJ, Joe, Christopher Daniels, LAX, etc.

[@coreyhall1150]

And everyone of those names for buried because of DUMB ASS BOOKING. Both from Vince AND Tony Khan.

[@demonsuckafucka6828]

​@@coreyhall1150AJ is literally a legend in WWE idk what you're talking about

[@ThatFlyPigeon]

It's brilliant that throughout this Dave was still tweeting about Jim 😂😂

[@blaze3422160]

Don’t forget the Young Bucks also made their names off of Russo hating them in TNA. If both Russo and Cornette, two guys with wildly different opinions on wresting think you suck, you ever think you might just suck?

[@Matt-cr4vv]

Prichard and Bischoff both said they didn’t see anything in them either. So it was basically everybody.

[@scottthegeneticfreaksteine393]

@@Matt-cr4vv honestly not that fucking hard to see. Remember seeing them in tna as generation me, which is hilarious how their careers have played out with their perception, and thought they look like two little and skinny boys who were coming from the backyard wrestling events.

[@Jfootlong87]

I gave up on Dave when he went on Observer radio the night Matt Hardy almost got killed and was in complete AEW spin mode and Bryan Alvarez had to repeatedly try to bring Dave back to earth knowing he was destroying the credibility of their platform.

[@alexg585]

agree 100%

[@Jfootlong87]

@Joshua Sharwood yeah and Bryan loves AEW but he wasn't going to let that cloud his judgement. What happened with Matt Hardy was ridiculous and Dave was there pushing the company line just like he spins all the bad stuff they do

[@totallykoolyeah]

he has problems dicussing injuries/any womens match

[@TL2354]

@Joshua Sharwood he’s still Dave’s lackey

[@Everson33]

Which time matt almost got killed? I'd love to find the corny clip

[@Will_kid_cortez]

He chose his new friends over a old one. That right there shows you the character of Dave meltzer.

[@LeeJGreen]

I believe if Dave agreed with Corny he’ll stop making money.

[@tammyforbes2101]

If old friends where toxic and bringing you down there is nothing wrong with that! I stopped being friend with lots of people when I got older it’s just part of life! Some grow up some don’t! My old fried sets in Knox county jail tonight gonna be there awhile so good thing I wasn’t around Him or I may be there to!

[@Will_kid_cortez]

@@tammyforbes2101 if cornette is so bad why do you and all of us listen? Do you really believe jim was taking dave down? If anything it was the opposite

[@neosgx96]

Holy shit 60 minutes. Gonna grab my popcorn.

[@Stay_ClassyYT]

No wonder why Jim cuts promos for days with anything comes to mind

[@bowdenprod1055]

Dave Meltzer in the wrestling journalism field is the personification of living (in the career) long enough to watch yourself become the villain.

[@insupportofjunhado]

Alvarez is a little better, but just a little. Listen, read, how they described WCW or TNA. Mostly fair criticism. ROH, Dragon Gate, Chikara, fair, fair, fair. AEW, Alvarez treats it with kid gloves, verbally speaking while Meltzer all but blows it. Alvarez would rightly talk about the TNA ladder matches with Aries and Hardy, Meltzer would rightly talk about the ROH ladder matches with Steen and Generico but the AEW guys can hurt themselves much worse for less reason and four stars, five stars! If Meltzer was consistent and people started hating on him, that would be one thing, but he's changed.

[@coreyhall1150]

I didmt even know who he was. I honestly didn't. Then I saw him on that program with Vince and the ring boy scandal and I was like "Oh that's him" and moved on and didn't even REMEMBER him only reason I know his name is because of Corny.

[@RampagingChipmunk]

Notable that Sami Zayn has mentioned recently that he realized upon going to WWE that he needed to grow up a lot.

[@ishoottheyscore8970]

This is possibly where Cornette does deserve criticism - I don't think he copes well with certain personality types. As much as he could see what some of these guys had to offer, he maybe doesn't have the patience or the insight to find a way to speak to them. Is that the case with Zayn? The two personality clashes got in the way of Jim helping Zayn develop in the way they both really wanted? Just a thought

[@mrbadguysan]

@@ishoottheyscore8970 it's not symmetric. Sami Zayn just has to worry about Sami Zayn, Cornette had the whole book. You can't expect your boss, for lack of a better term, to spend more energy in cultivating a relationship with you than you're willing to.

[@ishoottheyscore8970]

@@mrbadguysan Which is fine on an individual level, but what about when it's a wider pattern across multiple people? I'm not saying it's definitely a problem, but it does seem like a question asking at least.

[@ishoottheyscore8970]

@MemphoWrasslin1 - but what it they were willing to change that when someone asked them to do it in a different way? Were they unwilling to change because of how Cornette addressed them, or did the WWE people find a better way to make them understand what the changes would achieve? I'm not saying it's definitely one way or another, but it is a possible criticism

[@dontworryboutit404]

@@ishoottheyscore8970 Money would be the main reason for that.

[@williamthomas5215]

I come back to this every few weeks just to see how this continues to age like a fine wine

[@0tt0z]

Same. 😆

[@chuckjasmin427]

Me too...been binge watching mid south wrestling 1983 & 1984. Just saw Cornette tar & feather Magnum TA on the 1 12 1984 episode. when "heat" was "heat" & a backdrop got a pop

[@stealthmode1303]

When Meltzer calls out all the stupidity in AEW and the fact that it has nothing to do with a “sports based format”, then I’ll take him seriously. For anyone wanting to take this somewhat seriously, imagine a new viewer tuning in and seeing Sonny Kiss on the tv ??? Ridiculous.

[@MrTambourineMan.]

Doesn’t Dave do that like every week? I can’t remember a time either him or his cohost went a whole episode without pointing out something was illogical or didn’t work.

[@ineverexisted7009]

hol up i’m confused, what’s the problem with sonny kiss??

[@FeelMyFerret]

@@MrTambourineMan. that's true. But Dave also, doesn't shit on the things that suck about AEW, to the extent he will shit on WWE's things that suck just as much... Dave is not impartial. And that's a fact.

[@SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist]

@@ineverexisted7009 Nothing, it's just that homophobic wrestling fans hate him because they are insecure about their sexuality.

[@jamirimaj6880]

@@ineverexisted7009 There's a big difference between Sonny Kiss and Goldust.

[@bowdenprod1055]

Travis is going to keep pushing back Nick’s hairline in these TNs 😂

[@IamSickCase]

I see it’s an hour long promo on Dave Melzer. My drive home just got that much easier. Thank you Jim

[@nerdrage557]

Meltzer and AEW are a perfect match in the wrestling world. Neither brings anything new and interesting but they get by on a set number of mega fans willing to accept a slightly less boring WWE. Funny how he was bashing TNA years ago (rightfully) for lack of standards but refuses to do the same now

[@DolchOfHate]

So the guy that is a glorified mark talks about Jim, who's been successful in multiple promotions. That mark is telling Jim how to "book" a show. Holy shit.

[@murdyrdoll]

What promotions has Jim been successful in? His own promotion, Smokey Mountain Wrestling, went out of business a matter of months after Rick Rubin (a multimillionaire music producer) stopped paying the bills. His booking run in WWF in 1996-early 1997 led to Nitro demolishing Raw in ratings and WWF nearly going out of business (the NWA revival angle that Jim booked in 1997 was particularly embarrassing). His booking run in ROH led to the company losing live gate attendance and DVD sales (their lifeblood at the time) and his run as TNA booker led to further declining ratings for an already struggling company. Jim has had the book for 4 major promotions, including promotions with billionaire backers, and has failed colossally every single time. Dude is 0-4. This isn't my opinion, but a recounting of history backed up by facts. Anyone with even a mild knowledge of pro wrestling history knows this. I'm not trying to insult you but what promotions, in your mind, has he been remotely successful in? I feel dumb for typing this out because you're not going listen and learn, because it doesn't fit your narrative, but if you are going to write comments about wrestling at least be slightly informed.

[@vanderful2397]

@@murdyrdoll I'm not an expert, but wasn't he good at Ohio Valley wrestling? Also Corny was the second greatest manager ever, which is a lot more than Meltzer is. Smokey Mountain was very respected, it was just founded during the time when the business was going down. I'm not saying that Corny is the greatest promoter ever, but he is a lot better than some & he is definitely greater than Meltzer who has no experience on running a show.

[@murdyrdoll]

@@vanderful2397 OVW was a development promotion that ran at a huge loss and drew between 75-200 people a night, then Jim got fired from the job in 2005. I wouldn't call that remotely successful. Also Smokey Mountain was semi well liked in the early 90s (ironically, Meltzer put it over in his news letter) because WWF was doing voodoo curse angles and WCW had Robocop in angles, where Smokey Mountain presented rasslin' form the 70s. It wasn't well respected, just seen as more serious than the big 2. As soon as ECW, a truly innovative product, came along, Smokey Mountain was no longer interesting to anyone outside of the small live audiences they drew in the south (the promotion always ran at a loss). Finally, saying Cornette is better than Meltzer at something that Meltzer has never done is silly. Somebody who goes swimming and nearly drowns is still a better swimming than somebody that has never gone swimming.

[@vanderful2397]

@@murdyrdoll I think you are mostly right. However I don't think you can judge development territories really. OVW couldn't succeed financically, because everytime somebody was getting over they would get called to the big leagues & their hands were quite tied. I mean they couldn't have member of Aryan Brotherhood trying to lynch Shelton Benjamin, because WWE wouldn't like etc. I think their primary objective was just to prepare people for the big leagues & making money was extra. NXT is or at least was inprofitable too. I also remembered how Meltzer used to love SMW. Anyway like I said that was a bad time for wrestling, so I don't you can blame Corny for the fall of SMW. I think Corny's legacy as a boss should be calculated on his success in the ROH & WWE. Anyway I obviously can't say that he was successful in running those shows, however I still think he had a great mind for the business. I guess in many ways he is like Russo, he needs somebody above him, who has a clear vision & who is more diplomatic. Corny sounds like a guy who isn't that good with people who he doesn't respect & I don't think he is a good negotiator with tv people & sponsors. I seem to remember that he was very confused when Vince told him that "In this business you have to learn to eat like & try to like the taste of it" etc. If Corny would have been responsible for WWE's tag team division in early 2000s for example, I'm sure that would have been great. I also believe in him when he says that wrestling suffered greatly, because people used to hotshot the business in late 90s. For example the last brutal ECW matches were shit, because they had already done everything cool & now they only had stupid shit left (for example many of the New Jack's matches). I see the last years of ECW as huge black mark on Heyman's legacy. I think he is a capable boss & his opinions should have a lot of weight, because I don't really think there are much better bookers than him in the US anymore. If you want to see better bookers, you should watch Japanese or perhaps Mexican wrestling, but in the US he is a lot better than most who are still alive.

[@murdyrdoll]

@@vanderful2397 First off, I appreciate having a civilized discussion about wrestling with somebody online that doesn't involve a bunch of insults. You seem like a good, reasonable dude. I still feel like you are giving Cornette credit that he does not deserve. I agree with you that OVW was not meant to be profitable, but if he was perceived as doing a good job then he wouldn't have been fired. Smokey Mountain ran at the same time as ECW, and ECW continued to grow (and shaped the direction of the big 2) while Smokey Mountain fizzled out because the booking was just re-hashed booking from the 70s. If Cornette's ideas were good, the promotion would have stayed in business and been profitable. But his ideas were uninteresting to most wrestling fans and the promotion went out of business as soon as his multi-millionaire backer stopped paying the bills. I will say that Cornette was a fantastic manager, a good promo and even a decent commentator (aside from his high pitched man-baby voice). That said, him in a booking capacity has cost those companies (that were foolish enough to put him in that role) money/ratings/sales/etc. without fail. He is a bad booker and his ideas about what draws in wrestling are flat out wrong. His track record has consistently proves this for 3 decades. Its not his lack of people skills that caused all of the companies he worked for to lose money/fans/ratings, but his antiquated boring ideas on what draws in wrestling. I agree that he would be an asset to company in teaching the young guys how to cut better promos, or as a manager, but not as a booker or even an idea person.

[@jthom0027]

Since Dave is so close with the AEW roster, maybe he should break off one of his 10,000 conversations with the Bucks and Omega and have a chat with guys like Kazarian, Daniels, Dustin Rhodes, FTR, QT Marshall, Arn Anderson, or Tully Blanchard about Cornette and his booking. I'm going to guess that he'll get a slightly different reaction than those of his senpai's.

[@Run187]

If dave thinks the bucks are better than the wolves then he really has lost his mind..

[@Kas58223]

No way the Bucks are better than Davey Richards and Eddie Edwards tag team I thought those guys were an awesome tag team least those guys sold than the fucking Bucks

[@karikarisworld2693]

Benjamin n haas or the young boys/bucks....wolves vs young boys the young boys aren't on that level. I tried wrestling and saw several young buck type characters. What bucks and co need to do is seek advice from wrestlers and stop flipping twirling etc every 30 seconds

[@MisterSchitt]

A god awful take from Dementia Dave. Ring of Honor had the American Wolves, the Kings of Wrestling, the Briscoe Brothers, and Team Angle. And he wanted them to push Max Buck and Jeremy Buck. Just no.

[@chadk890]

Cant believe he compared the Bucks to the Midnight Express is laughable.

[@SAM-ru4vx]

motor city machine guns were one of the better teams in TNA iMPACT. The adrenaline rush was real.

[@Patrick-ud3vu]

Cornette is the only form of wrestling that I'll listen/watch to for an hour straight and still be entertained!

[@MikeJr9284]

Jim lives rent free in Dave’s head.

[@Fausto_4841]

The gayest phrase ever.

[@jasonnewbery]

Lmao

[@caitlinvaleska7246]

CURRENT YEAR!

[@TheFatSteez]

@KaneMagus Using "CE" and "*eye roll*" is also incredibly gay. get off twitter/reddit

[@malikevans2615]

@@Fausto_4841 how

[@Hellwolf36]

Uncle Dave will say or do anything to be accepted by the (s)marks, especially in AEW, in hopes he can be respected and hopefully collect subscriptions or cash from the others. When you say dumb shit like The Bucks are the next Rock N Roll or Marko Stunted Growth is the next Rey Mysterio, of course people will call you out. Even the smarks on /asp/, some of which like AEW religiously think Meltzer is a lunatic.

[@MrTambourineMan.]

I don’t know about that. “Uncle Dave” criticizes AEW all the time. Just this week he criticized the Young Bucks segment. And did Dave Melzter say that Marko Stunt is the next Rey Mysterio in those words?

[@eviltwin8212]

@@MrTambourineMan. yes he did

[@Hellwolf36]

@@MrTambourineMan. He did, defended Jericho's stance on it and there are some AEW smarks that agree with the assessment.

[@molsy1768]

@@MrTambourineMan. he doesnt criticise aew. He rated that parking lot brawl higher than any Bobby roode match ffs

[@MrTambourineMan.]

@@eviltwin8212 I couldn’t find it on the internet, I do see a tweet he replied to Jerichos comparing Marko Stunt to Rey Mysterio. Jim is even involved in the tweet: “Before Rey, Ole said that about Liger. In time, you realize how preposterous this will sound 20 years from now.” That doesn’t sound like him saying Marko Stunt is Rey Mysterio, just that the way everyone wrote Rey Mysterio off at first, he exceeded expectations. It COULD happen with Marko Stunt. That sounds a lot different then saying Marko Stunt is as good as Rey Mysterio. But maybe you’re referring to a different tweet mobile.twitter.com/davemeltzerwon/status/1185388967689998336?lang=en

[@BrandanTheBroker]

"Mabel is the third man" - Dave Meltzer

[@WingsofHistory]

Lmfao

[@TheKestevon]

Was supposedly the 3rd one instead of Hogan in NWO.

[@BrandanTheBroker]

@@TheKestevon Vince Mcmahon would have been the 4th 😂😂😂

[@CallmeA_B]

Dave Meltzer is the Oprah of professional wrestling. "You get a star, and you get a star!" 😆

[@caseyloomis5743]

This is unrealistically true 😂😂😂

[@ChristopherJames1993]

Not really. Oprah is picky about who she gives shit to.

[@maxxdahl6062]

@@ChristopherJames1993 So is Meltzer.

[@isaacmaners6435]

Sad, Dave was once a very prominent figure that every indy wrestler hoped together a great review from. Today he gives the garbage 5 stars and pushes the outlaw BS and comedy wrestling. Of course everything moves forward but no real wrestler or fan considers this shit progress.

[@redman4669]

One thing that hasn't changed is that every indy wrestler hopes to get a good review from him

[@maxxdahl6062]

That's partly what's ruined wrestling. Trying to impress one man, than the actual audience.

[@markhutchison2240]

Wrestler’s need to tell a story through their wrestling and their promos. Endless repetition of the same gymnast routines isn’t wrestling.

[@mcomiskey7]

We as wrestling fans don't really ask for much, just give us something to buy into. If you want real story telling promo search William Regal vs Cesaro.

[@chrishollister80]

Hey Dave, what's the weather for next Wednesday? Well, Cornette sure won't tell you the right way to book the weather today! 😂🤣😂🤣

[@PhatGirlLuvr68Comix]

Dave is shooting hard to take Russo's spot.

[@willdallas53]

@Christopher Jordan he means in regard to who corny hates the most.

[@jeffreysharp9925]

The one good thing about AEW is that it took the most annoying aspects out of NJPW. Omega and the Young Bucks leaving have allowed me to enjoy that product so much more.

[@adamweishaupt2846]

Melter is seriously close to joining Russo, Herd and Dunn on Cornette's Mount Shitmore.

[@stinkypinkeee5085]

@Millennial Smark Dude, seriously?

[@myquest666420]

@@stinkypinkeee5085 what’s wrong with the guy advertising his small channel? He wasn’t even a dick about it. He was actually incredibly polite. I probably won’t check out his channel, but good on him for trying to grow his content.

[@QCS_AdamCole]

I keep noticing how Jim gives his thoughts on AEW & in the next week or 2, AEW begins taking Jim's advice. They get a free consulting session every week.

[@christophercoxdonderoes7665]

Howard Finkel other job when he wasn't ring announcing was to listen to Wrestling Observer and Live Audio Wrestling radio shows to see what they were saying about WWE. I don't know if they have aynone like that now.

[@augustushaynes1311]

This whole video is gold, but from the 36:00 mark, especially Corny’s comments on Mike Mondo in ROH, it’s so obvious to me how much this guy loves wrestling. You can tell it pisses him off when a guy is maligned for inadequate reasons by people who don’t know anything about wrestling.

[@kovulion7777]

Dave is paid by Tony, nuff said, Y2J already made an accidental tweet revealing AEW pays smark youtube channels to say AEW is the best thing ever

[@jonathannickels2649]

Link? Just curious

[@JTPrime08]

Yeah, I like Chris Jericho and I consider him a GOAT of pro wrestling (like Undertaker, I prefer Undertaker over Chris Jericho. Undertaker is way better than Chris Jericho) because of his character, the longevity of his character and wrestling. I like Jericho’s band, Fozzy. I think they’re decent. I don’t like the person Jericho has become now. Chris Jericho lost his mojo.

[@codydisney9959]

@@jonathannickels2649 Jericho deleted the tweet

[@tsaicho]

@@jonathannickels2649 www.google.com/amp/s/amp.wrestlinginc.com/news/2020/10/jim-cornette-responds-to-chris-jericho-saying-he-could-have-675749/

[@tsaicho]

@@jonathannickels2649 Definitely looks really awful for Jericho and AEW, and puts over Cornette. This certainly implies AEW is willing to pay off critics.

[@ralphhernandez3366]

Imagine a podcast of Jim Cornette, Bruce Prichard, and Eric Bischoff. A roundtable discussion on the rise and fall of the Dynamic Dude himself, Mr. Dave Meltzer.

[@Incurious_]

The "Young" Bucks couldn't draw a circle.

[@marcespinoza6068]

Dave is the guy who hangs around his old fraternity years after graduating college. He desperately wants to be accepted by the young "hip" crowd in wrestling which is why he put's over anything AEW or NJPW does.

[@greghughes6098]

Meltzer is essentially a professional mark at this point

[@DarkLordofTheSith69]

He's the shits always has been

[@jacobegleston9806]

Melzters heel turn into the Dynamic Dude is one of my favorite angles in the history of the Jim Cornette Experience!

[@jeremyboehm5512]

Meltzer is a Young Buck Kenny Olivier apologist so any time Jim says the Bucks and Olivier are just awful Meltzer rushes to their defense.

[@jasonnewbery]

He HAS to be paid by AEW. Nothinf else makes sense. He doesnt have a damn bad thing to say about that garbage

[@newfacepaula]

and the meltzer drones will come to save their moronic cult leader

[@sheepdavis]

Meltzer couldn't spell CAT if you spotted him the C and the A

[@MooseNugget]

As someone who was enjoying Ring of Honor at the time it's always great to hear Jim talk about his last run there.

[@WildBillCox13]

His strategy is if he tags you, all your fans will go watch his stuff. That's all. He's riding your coattails. Can't stand on his own two feet and sit on his hands at the same time.

[@tobygreen4257]

I love Cornette. Here is the reason which has zero to do with Dave. Cornette has taught me how to enjoy wrestling. I appreciate when guys tell a good story make it look real and strike the right balance between sport, drama and entertainment.

[@dbkt5416]

"The dynamic dude Dave Meltzer" I literally spit my coffee out 🤣🤣🤣

[@firebird7479]

The challenge is, which one is he comparing him to, Johnny Ace or Shane Douglas?

[@MetalJT24]

@@firebird7479 in sure he's referring to Johnny Ace.

[@georgemunro319]

Unlike Dave Meltzer and I can't believe I'm gonna say this but John Laurinitis actually was a wrestler a rotten wrestler but a wrestler so I can't believe I to gotta give Laurinitis more credibility over Meltzer

[@1983jcheat]

Meltzy is still upset? What, did Jim insult his Young bucks again? I guess that dump I took back in Atlantic City should get 5 stars. Maybe Ol' Davey should come verify that it was in a ring.

[@EliC09]

Only 4 stars because you didn't drop a turd in the Tokyo Dome..

[@1983jcheat]

@@EliC09 LOL. As long as Ultimo Dragon and Masato Tanaka don't attend that show. I'm cool with that. I don't wanna offend them.

[@stealthmode1303]

Meltzer is losing credibility more and more with each tweet

[@Jfootlong87]

Dave Meltzer wears his Young Bucks pajamas to bed everynight

[@TheBC313]

Do they actually sell those? Cuz i'd be really into that

[@toniklocc]

@@TheBC313 they have bullet club Yb pajamas at hot topic

[@ArChA0S1]

I reckon he has a Tony Khan hot water bottle as well.

[@JaculaDudek]

and young bucks wear their young bucks pajamas to ring every night

[@hamilstarr4292]

This has aged even better

[@TrustInDustin85]

"Some of them never shall" most hilarious line delivery ever!

[@deadmanwalking8740]

If you listen to a radio interview between Dave and Ole Anderson around 2003 I think, it’s on KZbin I’m sure, you can hear how much of an arrogant asshole he can comes off as. However, it’s 2 separate 12 minute videos I think so listen at your own discretion because lots of uh uh’s and you know’s

[@ARWNetwork]

For so many years Jimmy defended Dave Meltzer, gave him news, backstage dirt and sometimes gave him delusional details where he wasn’t even present but helped meltzer knowing fully well in his heart that Meltzer is a mark and nothing more than that!

[@mcomiskey7]

For years Jimmy was feeding him more rope so he wouldn't do the old adage but alas Dave decided to do the job anyway.

[@kingofkings69ner]

Dave Meltzer is the guy that makes Vince Russo looks like a saint

[@sicsicsicker]

This is the best angle in wrestling right now so let's get it in the ring. Jim vs. Dave in a "Charlie from Starkville Mississippi on a pole" match

[@sparkageddon3186]

dave would be butt hurt if jim cornette was to ever go back to the WWE and vince let him work on the superstars without changin the bookin at the last mintue jim cornette the truth

[@dirtmcgirt8269]

That would be hilarious. Would much rather see Jim, or his work, in WWE than AEW.

[@fishin4bass2002]

Rumor is Tony Kahn is going around paying people to not talk shit about AEW

[@glenmenas9424]

I swear to God at this point if Kenny Olivié were to turn heel, if Jim Cornette were announced as his manager/agent it would probably be the most important dynamic in wrestling right now.

[@mcomiskey7]

Twitter would melt into liquid.

[@someparts]

"sort of like when Virgil ended up in the NWO" OUCH hahaha

[@joechung3525]

Uncle Dave just wants to get some hype off of Jim because it's just cool around the cool kids to hate on Jim.

[@bobbyc.4415]

To paraphrase what Ole Anderson told Dave once in an interview, Cornette did it and Dave wishes he could. Jealous much?

[@RandalfElVikingo]

Ole destroyed Dave in that interview.

[@abealih92]

So Delirious and Jim bring Qt Marshall to Roh and fans of Roh hated him than the same fans who watched Aew now suddenly praised him..😂😂

[@dapperdon8888]

Cornette is so out of touch that he becomes more and more relevant and popular with each passing year.

[@mrhaag]

I prefer the guy who made money in the business over the guy who made money off of the business.

[@frank-bmtz]

Tony Kahn should change the name of his promotion to AMW. All Meltzer Wrestling.

[@mariolozano5581]

Why do people mess with Jim he always has proof and backs up what he says.

[@jackforster7783]

Brian’s reluctance to go along with that final segway to my bookie was incredible 😂

[@oodatooitis6714]

I can't stand or spare a minute on Twitter for any reason, but what I don't get is why someone can't just call Dave out for exactly what he's doing: A 50 something year old man. Misrepresenting chosen facts. To build a weak ass narrative. About a guy he doesn't like anymore. B/c he won't suck up to your new wrestling best friends. Is embarrassing. Get off Twitter. The end.

[@Lufsixq]

Meltzer with his lil sidekick Alarez hasn't been needed since the early 90s. When the internet started to be popular and people started getting online his Wrestling Observer was no longer needed. Especially when new groups started and anyone anywhere could publish what he did with the WO. He is not even a shell of what he used to be, instead he is trying to be the loudest guy in the room just to still be seen.

[@johnnydaggers7649]

I love how travis art is simple but yet captures distinct features and you know exactly who they are ...sorta like south parks art

[@TheKratosMorrison]

I listen to the epic promo on Russo literally every night and laugh my ass off. Watching this is over an hour, makes me feel a happier person .

[@crappiekingdre6231]

You can’t compare what Jim did in ROH to what’s going on in AEW. First a billionaire son didn’t own ROH and ROH wasn’t on TNT. Also Dave is comparing the audience. Look at Dave favorite company PWG and all the current stars they had, that’s now in WWE and AEW. It didn’t have big crowds but Dave said they had the best matches🤷🏽‍♂️

[@elijahchesterthomas5334]

"The Dynamic Dude" nickname is fucking hilarious.

[@jabrockobiden9434]

No one should be proud of anything booked in last 20 years

[@marvingamez9057]

It makes me laugh so hard when marks will go after Jim and say he hasn’t booked anything in forever, but live by the word of Meltzer who’s NEVER booked anything 😂

[@mattthomas1442]

It is funny how Dave doesn't seem to mind if people say negative things about him but the moment somebody says something negative about AEW in particular the Young Bucks and Omega, Dave instantly has to chime in and try to defend them to death. I swear he treats them like they are his own children, who knows maybe in his warped mind he sees them as that and that's why he's so defensive over them.

[@lovelywaz]

This aged like fine wine and I assume that would still be the case in coming months/years! 🥂🥂🍻🍻

[@jedediahcoulbourne1791]

As soon as Jim said the name Austin Aries the phrase "Sad little turnip eating man" popped into my mind

[@halogayming0814]

Meltzer is starting to have a unhealthy obsession with you jim, i saw his tweets and he constantly keeps going.

[@MrDagonOfTheDead]

They must have "dirt" on him,, and I'm NOT talking sheets🤣🤣🤣 #CakePlates #GoldenDreams

[@williamschaeffer409]

if i was to start a promotion, cornette would be top of the list of bookers i would hire.

[@kingcam0775]

Eh, he'd be a great top advisor, but probably not the best booker for today. Too far away from understanding today's culture.

[@thevirus7368]

All I know, as a casual wrestling fan from the mid 80's, is that the wrestling today, in my opinion is absolutely shocking. Its not entertaining, it's alot of cringe 😬