Jim Cornette on Dave Meltzer Being Upset With Jim's Comments About The Observer Hall Of Fame

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3 жыл бұрын

From Episode 358 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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@steveogden5774
@steveogden5774 3 жыл бұрын
Al Snow once described Dave Meltzer as "the greatest worker in the history of wrestling" on the grounds that he'd made his living out of professional wrestling for decades without ever having wrestled, not having the experience to be an expert but still conning people into thinking he knows what he's talking about.
@8Bitorbust
@8Bitorbust Жыл бұрын
Al Snow is the man. Yesterday they were talking about Marks believing in new words Meltzer was making up.
@SLAPTALK
@SLAPTALK Жыл бұрын
Here's a new phrase for you: GUARDRAIL HUMPERS ⛓️🤩🎫⛓️
@8Bitorbust
@8Bitorbust Жыл бұрын
@@SLAPTALK HA!!!!!!
@heatherduncanfamily5531
@heatherduncanfamily5531 Жыл бұрын
Brilliantly said Sir...always wanted to like and have liked Dave but truer words have never been spoken.
@danbarry8909
@danbarry8909 11 ай бұрын
The interview where Dave had to explain his rationale behind his star rankings kind of obliterated his cred as an analyst and exposed his deeply held biases.
@MrSpeed-lt8gr
@MrSpeed-lt8gr 3 жыл бұрын
Meltzer has caused both Jim Cornette and Vince Russo to hate his guts. That’s some talent right there.
@jasons2023
@jasons2023 3 жыл бұрын
That's the only thing that JC and VR likes about each other, even if they don't admit it.
@markmallone7484
@markmallone7484 3 жыл бұрын
And Bischoff.
@joshuabrown5123
@joshuabrown5123 3 жыл бұрын
He's the best heel in wrestling!
@soclib
@soclib 3 жыл бұрын
And Herb Abrams...
@michelledavidson8190
@michelledavidson8190 3 жыл бұрын
That would be like bringing Trump and Clinton together lol.
@Ted_Bell
@Ted_Bell 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Meltzer has been totally exposed as a bias fanatic. Saying things like the Bucks are better wrestlers than guys like Savage and Rude. John Moxley is the next Stone Cold.
@johnstahlman9767
@johnstahlman9767 3 жыл бұрын
He also would bash ECW for things AEW does.
@jpacampara21
@jpacampara21 3 жыл бұрын
He gets tons of money from AEW's subscribers now man
@85nxplosion
@85nxplosion 3 жыл бұрын
If Jon Moxley was in the WWE still or any other promotion outside AEW. Uncle Dave wouldn’t even acknowledge Moxley’s existence along with Jericho, Cody, and many former WWE talents.
@karikarisworld2693
@karikarisworld2693 3 жыл бұрын
Did he actually say that. Embarrassing omega young bucks to name a few are AWFUL. Spots n botches finger pointing
@rosybuddy28
@rosybuddy28 3 жыл бұрын
Well in that case I am the queen of England.
@BrandonMobley614
@BrandonMobley614 3 жыл бұрын
"Do you think Uncle Dave needs a dog? If he had one and named it clue, he'd have one." - James E. Cornette
@kjpierson1152
@kjpierson1152 3 жыл бұрын
I need to be able to upvote this 3000 times.
@ryaneglinton8970
@ryaneglinton8970 3 жыл бұрын
@@kjpierson1152 I need to start using this in conversations.
@RafaelSantos-di5yw
@RafaelSantos-di5yw 2 жыл бұрын
How do you even come up with that stuff hahahahaha
@seebee6804
@seebee6804 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty rough times in wrestling when the hottest feud is a wrestling journalist and a former manager
@matta6761
@matta6761 3 жыл бұрын
Says more about how entertaining Jimmy is tbh lol
@bradpaton3927
@bradpaton3927 3 жыл бұрын
Corny when'll you challenge old "Uncle Dave" to an "I Retire!" match?
@CatsClaw44
@CatsClaw44 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂🤣
@dragoredrox7493
@dragoredrox7493 3 жыл бұрын
Former manager, talent manager, producer and writer. Lets give him the in industry credit he deserves.
@maxxdahl6062
@maxxdahl6062 3 жыл бұрын
@@dragoredrox7493 And promoter and booker.
@jmsnrs716
@jmsnrs716 3 жыл бұрын
"Poor Uncle Dave. You think he needs a dog? If he bought a dog and named it Clue, then he'd have one." Absolutely brilliant.
@horrorstew3577
@horrorstew3577 3 жыл бұрын
The observer lost all credibility long before this !! The fans of Dave's generation think he's lost his mind !!
@forumcelebritypodcast
@forumcelebritypodcast 3 жыл бұрын
when he went years giving most of the awards to Japanese wrestlers and not Austin, the Rock, Steiners, Road Warriors show's his bias.
@TheMagnificentMongoSlade
@TheMagnificentMongoSlade 3 жыл бұрын
Observer voters have discussed how Meltzer primes the voters with his editorials, match ratings, AND the category he was placed in. So challenging the validity of it is reasonable
@patrickdepew4976
@patrickdepew4976 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, that's a bunch of b.s. The only thing he should do is break down the candidates by listing their bios and major accomplishments and that's it. No campaigning, no listing of star ratings. If the people who vote want to refer to his star ratings, they could find those for themselves.
@TheMagnificentMongoSlade
@TheMagnificentMongoSlade 3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickdepew4976 Doesn't matter. Listen to the breakdown Corny and Brian said. 8th among historians, #1 for REPORTERS (journalists), these people are primed by Meltzer's opinion...most of them aggregate his stuff and they rely on him.
@deekdeegler5059
@deekdeegler5059 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 3 жыл бұрын
Just like the Election - not "stolen" but "rigged", largely through media propaganda...
@patrickdepew4976
@patrickdepew4976 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMagnificentMongoSlade That's my point is that Meltzer shouldn't be trying to influence it. It would be like if people actually voted for the WWE HOF and Vince sent out recommendations every year.
@guy1091
@guy1091 3 жыл бұрын
Dave is acting like these AEW wrestlers by worrying about every single thing anyone has to say about them.
@thesupervisor3270
@thesupervisor3270 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah lame
@pauladams1915
@pauladams1915 3 жыл бұрын
?
@packpock4369
@packpock4369 3 жыл бұрын
They have some talented guys. Its not like he says AEW is the complete shits. Omega is a niche. He's not mainstream. He has made wrestling look like a joke. He's an actor, he plays wrestling. For people to say he's the greatest wrestler. Yea to the niche group. And even still.
@JerichoJigsaw
@JerichoJigsaw 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Meltzer has a Kenny Omega obsession. Its almost like a school yard crush at this point. Omega has had some good matches but, HOF worthy at this point in his career? Definitely not.
@chrisortiz8072
@chrisortiz8072 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly from this generation of wrestlers in general feel like I've seen some good wrestlers such as orton so on but no one really feels hall of fame worthy. I guess we can go through hall of fame and say that about a few people in general
@el-youtub3r402
@el-youtub3r402 3 жыл бұрын
he's gargling omega's ballsack
@kingrobthegreat7446
@kingrobthegreat7446 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Omega is a great athlete but I dont think he is that great. Some wrestlers in Japan got a good match out of him and I really enjoyed his match w/ jericho. But everything else isn't memorable. I once saw him get tagged in during a tag match, punch his opponent, then tag back out the nxt second!! Talk abt lazy......
@TheSportsfan35
@TheSportsfan35 3 жыл бұрын
@DiosDorado, Exactly right I mean there's no way I would put Omega in the league as Harley, Dory & Lou Thesz.
@TAXie-ck7ed
@TAXie-ck7ed 3 жыл бұрын
Cornette's just as obsessed over Omega, so it probably evens out.
@TheBC313
@TheBC313 3 жыл бұрын
It always made me chuckle that Dave started a hall of fame for his NEWSLETTER. Is that not hilariously absurd to anybody else? The Wrestling Observer NEWSLETTER hall of fame. So prestigious lol.
@ohsweatbret
@ohsweatbret 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, I thought it’s kinda dumb. Also it’s voted on by readers of his magazine I believe. People who read his magazine and care enough to respond likely share his opinions on wrestling. They’re going to want to read about the wrestling and wrestlers they like. There’s obviously going to be a bias. It’s kinda silly that he won’t acknowledge that
@TheWill1225
@TheWill1225 3 жыл бұрын
So retired wrestlers didn’t vote Omega in, historians had him eighth on the ballot but he got in based on reporters and whatever other current people in wrestling who read the newsletter voted him in and people told me last week I was out of line for saying “that Omega being in Dave Meltzer’s HOF is the very definition of a circlejerk”. Given who voted him in and who didn’t, it proved my point pretty well.
@DJSexualChocolate
@DJSexualChocolate 3 жыл бұрын
1st among reporters, 7th among historians and n/a among retired wrestlers....and THAT gets him in? Thats a joke
@kurtjarvis2447
@kurtjarvis2447 3 жыл бұрын
@@DJSexualChocolate well said by the way what has Kenny omega done to get anything
@TomClacy5871
@TomClacy5871 3 жыл бұрын
@@kurtjarvis2447 Careful. Indie nerds will tell you that his NJPW stuff is merit alone
@kurtjarvis2447
@kurtjarvis2447 3 жыл бұрын
@@TomClacy5871 thank you for the warning they would probably have him on mount Rushmore
@Hoffanheim
@Hoffanheim 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying this. How can someone be in a Hall of Fame based on a 3 year run in Japan and it isn‘t even proven if he is a real draw or nott.
@vipy4309
@vipy4309 3 жыл бұрын
Why does Dave think he's the mayor of wrestling, he never got in the ring.... Corny is more of historian than uncle Dave.
@nooneinparticular5273
@nooneinparticular5273 3 жыл бұрын
Well, because up until he started so aggressively dying on the hill for AEW at all times, he kind of was. A 5 star rating was thought highly of, his reporting, even now, is usually pretty spot on, his historical knowledge is near encyclopedic. Then he gave Omega a 6 some star match and he just gets worse and worse every time he opens his mouth. He earned a lot of goodwill and built a major platform, now, unfortunately, he is misusing it to piss all over what wrestling should be by praising the sorry state it currently is in.
@MrNurgle
@MrNurgle 3 жыл бұрын
Haha mayor of wrestling...
@ZeroShaneBob
@ZeroShaneBob 3 жыл бұрын
@@nooneinparticular5273 maybe he loves wrestling so much, and sees how far downhill it's been going, so he's trying to use his platform to over hype modern wrestling to grow its audience. Just some speculation.
@CleezyanaJones
@CleezyanaJones 3 жыл бұрын
He makes his living off wrestling. He’ll never admit when it’s in the dumps or needs help. That is bad for his business. He sells the fact that wrestling is hot and wrestling is now. He can’t say this shit sucks or he loses money. It’s simple really it’s self preservation
@nooneinparticular5273
@nooneinparticular5273 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroShaneBob I think you're half right. He is definitely cashing in all that the platform he has built is worth, but in order to try to grow AEW, not wrestling as a whole. I think he does genuinely likes this and now has convinced himself that wrestling is going uphill again. I say that because of how aggressively anti WWE he is, while being so aggressively pro AEW. Even when WWE does something right, he tends to downplay it, meanwhile even when AEW shits the bed, he says things like "The second least good match." His interest seems to be to push AEW and the indies and, for whatever reason, he seems to be hellbent on using his platform to ostracize and push to the fringe the opinion that what AEW is isn't even close to the best that wrestling has ever been.
@jenisia3600
@jenisia3600 3 жыл бұрын
Dave is as sensitive as most the aew marks. Jim living rent free on them. Why do they bother with what Jim says? Is it cause he's mostly right and it hurts them.
@Rashawn-vh6if
@Rashawn-vh6if 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much.
@jonnybrotten1290
@jonnybrotten1290 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly jen isia, the truth always hurts .
@Justin-bo5pg
@Justin-bo5pg 3 жыл бұрын
It's weird that the core of the Young Bucks get a pass for their political and religious beliefs but the same people drag AJ Styles.
@crappiekingdre6231
@crappiekingdre6231 3 жыл бұрын
Corny if Dave keeps calling you Trump. Then you should call the Wrestling Observer fake news and see how he likes that.
@matthewfrohbieter1803
@matthewfrohbieter1803 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt Corny would go down that road because he was a Dave informant for years. That’s probably why Jim doesn’t go nuclear on him.
@connordripps1480
@connordripps1480 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewfrohbieter1803 and Cornette has gone on record of saying he's disappointed cause Meltzer has lost his mind and lost principles of any rhyme or reason cause Meltzer is kind of like Bruce Prichard. Maybe Meltzer should be called The Artful Dodger much like Bruce.
@berniebasset9465
@berniebasset9465 3 жыл бұрын
It is fake news. Always has been.
@vinnyv949
@vinnyv949 3 жыл бұрын
Crony’s political leanings is really head scratching. He’s a traditional, old school, tough, non-pc conservative southerner yet he supports the Democrats who are the antithesis of that. The Democratic Party is progressive, new age, anti American northeastern PC liberal.
@natebaxter9551
@natebaxter9551 3 жыл бұрын
@@vinnyv949 this statement is as untrue as the idea that all conservatives are fascist and racist.
@joshbouman1654
@joshbouman1654 3 жыл бұрын
Old, out of touch, not all there, pushes his favourites down our throats. No it's not Vince McMahon, it's Dave Meltzer!
@MetalShadowX
@MetalShadowX 3 жыл бұрын
Say what you will about Vince, at least he's been keeping WWE strong (mostly financially but nonetheless) for 35 years. Dave's nothing more than a guy who thinks he knows everything about a business he was never a part of until the Elite came over and sucked up to him. That and I can't imagine Vince, out of kayfabe, throwing a tantrum on Twitter and being snobby with fans.
@chrisortiz8072
@chrisortiz8072 3 жыл бұрын
I dont know if dave was ever in touch
@Aznar245
@Aznar245 3 жыл бұрын
@@MetalShadowX Vince is a dying man with dementia
@TheSportsfan35
@TheSportsfan35 3 жыл бұрын
@@MetalShadowX Vince can't get out of his company's way when it comes to his booking of his talent & etc. I mean, Vince's the reason why his tv ratings for all 3 of his shows have been dropping every week.
@MetalShadowX
@MetalShadowX 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSportsfan35 I'm sure it has nothing to do with tv ratings as a whole going down because nobody watches cable anymore
@matthewfrohbieter1803
@matthewfrohbieter1803 3 жыл бұрын
Why does everybody care about Dave? Guy is wrong all the time and his star ranking system sucks.
@Hellwolf36
@Hellwolf36 3 жыл бұрын
Because the Dirt Sheet bros (who are a problem in themselves now), AEW and even NJPW smarks like it when he gives them 5-7 stars and they hold him like the MSM or Golden Calf of Wrestling, when he is just a sucker for the same nonsense as they were. Even some AEW fans I have spoken to think he is full of shit now.
@MisterImpolite
@MisterImpolite 3 жыл бұрын
Cuz he’s right
@mhc12k
@mhc12k 3 жыл бұрын
100%
@thesupervisor3270
@thesupervisor3270 3 жыл бұрын
That’s why I’m trying to figure out
@chrisortiz8072
@chrisortiz8072 3 жыл бұрын
Just a fun topic to tear apart lol since you hear about him from certain people. Though I dont care of Dave's thoughts and I dont read his crap
@mikehunth5765
@mikehunth5765 3 жыл бұрын
If he wants his hall to be respected then don’t put active wrestlers on the ballot
@deekdeegler5059
@deekdeegler5059 3 жыл бұрын
Dave literally said he could care less about what Cornette thought what pissed him off was that Jim was blatantly lying about things he knows aren’t true. Not that he wants the hall to be respected lol lol lol.
@al5306
@al5306 3 жыл бұрын
@@deekdeegler5059 Right... Jim's the one who lied... sure.
@walsh9080
@walsh9080 3 жыл бұрын
@Euroheat0022 The WWE hall of fame is the only true sports entertainment hall of fame. I say that only semi in jest.
@walsh9080
@walsh9080 3 жыл бұрын
@@al5306 Plans changed. It's not lying when you say that apparently.
@chubbubdreamer6904
@chubbubdreamer6904 3 жыл бұрын
@@deekdeegler5059 I missed all this, what did he lie about?
@JamesBuggemo
@JamesBuggemo 3 жыл бұрын
"__________ is upset with Jim Cornette." You'd think they would get the gimmick by now. Jim doesnt like most modern wrestling, so he sounds off about it. Its really a pretty basic formula at this point.
@BeeBumper
@BeeBumper 3 жыл бұрын
He helped make it what it is pimping himself to Vince
@karikarisworld2693
@karikarisworld2693 3 жыл бұрын
Wrestling!!!!!!! Ain't seen any in aew
@gcrumps
@gcrumps 3 жыл бұрын
Jim Cornette speaks Someone across the world gets their feels hurt.
@williamcordier1201
@williamcordier1201 3 жыл бұрын
I guess Jim is like Trump after all!!
@nickhughes8179
@nickhughes8179 Жыл бұрын
Only it’s Trump supporters and the fuck your feelings crowd that become snowflake ragers up in all of their feelings. There’s no Alternative to Fact and Trump lost.
@michelledavidson8190
@michelledavidson8190 3 жыл бұрын
"If he brought a dog and named it clue he'd have one" gold 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ZoeW101
@ZoeW101 3 жыл бұрын
Jim, thank you so much for speaking up for Benoit in that manner. These conversations about CTE and brain damage need to happen more and more to prevent further tragedies as Benoit’s.
@ZoeW101
@ZoeW101 3 жыл бұрын
No. You’re missing the point. It’s not an excuse. His brain was completely rotted. He wasn’t himself anymore. Unfortunately, none of the professional sports leagues ever wanna take responsibility or make appropriate changes. It’s a constant uphill battle. I’m not excusing what he did. We’re trying to prevent it from happening again by giving athletes the proper care.
@willtack9441
@willtack9441 3 жыл бұрын
I am good with whatever happens with him as long as he is not put in the wwe hof and people stop talking about him on every wwe instagram post
@jenisia3600
@jenisia3600 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZoeW101 exactly this. Sadly someone i knew had a mental illness and little by little his personality changed till the day he wasnt himself, now people imagine getting hit in the head constantly to the point that his brain looked like a patient with Alzheimer.
@G_Six
@G_Six 3 жыл бұрын
Sad part is a person has to die before it can be determined if they had CTE or not
@scottevans5472
@scottevans5472 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck that…he killed his own kid
@milinski
@milinski 3 жыл бұрын
Every week there is someone butthurt about Jim's comments. I love it.
@TomFoolery350
@TomFoolery350 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone is offended about everything these days
@VendreadMike95
@VendreadMike95 3 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@slyfox2022
@slyfox2022 3 жыл бұрын
There's many on the comments daily
@georgivasilev8428
@georgivasilev8428 3 жыл бұрын
Which makes following him all the more exciting.
@Anthonys_S
@Anthonys_S 3 жыл бұрын
They have to do a roast of meltzer with Jim, Bruce Prichard and Eric Bischoff 😳🤣
@mrpink99
@mrpink99 3 жыл бұрын
Add JR to that roster as well
@handsomelee9568
@handsomelee9568 3 жыл бұрын
I'd pay to see that.
@michelledavidson8190
@michelledavidson8190 3 жыл бұрын
@@handsomelee9568 same here 😂😂😂😂😂
@donkim2553
@donkim2553 3 жыл бұрын
I'll never not laugh whenever Jim says Twinkle Toes McFangerbang
@michaelsuezo
@michaelsuezo 3 жыл бұрын
Best nickname ever!
@ThaTruth223
@ThaTruth223 3 жыл бұрын
it’s “Fuck Taylor” for me
@662chillin
@662chillin 3 жыл бұрын
When I hear him say Pockets and not laugh, I crack up everytime
@DovahFett
@DovahFett 9 ай бұрын
@@662chillin”My Little Dog Pockets”
@cosborne06
@cosborne06 6 ай бұрын
“The Hardly Boyz” 😂😂😂
@RobertoTheOriginalManFromTheA
@RobertoTheOriginalManFromTheA 3 жыл бұрын
This is where Eric Bischoff feelings on dave,would be most appropriate..
@TheSportsfan35
@TheSportsfan35 3 жыл бұрын
What did EB say about Meltzer?
@TheeCoachg
@TheeCoachg 3 жыл бұрын
Bruce also
@RoronoaZoro55
@RoronoaZoro55 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSportsfan35 Eric Bischoff always criticizes Dave Meltzer with Bruce Prichard and Tony Schiavone, and to a lesser extant maybe Jim Ross and Arn Anderson but the first three always disagree with Uncle Dave!
@theangryconstitutionalist583
@theangryconstitutionalist583 3 жыл бұрын
Meltzer's "troll tongue" is always hilarious 😆
@oneanotherstudios
@oneanotherstudios 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how Meltzer constantly dismisses Jim's views on modern wrestling, saying he's out of touch or not with the times, and because of that no one should really listen to him. But then he keeps harping on things Jim says, bringing attention to them. Why would he care what Jim says if he's so "out of touch" or "working" people as a gimmick (which has also been alleged by several personalities, not sure if Meltzer was one of them)?
@HeyBuddays
@HeyBuddays 3 жыл бұрын
Disappointment. Dave feels that he has "evolved" with wrestling and that Jim is stuck in the past. Meltzer seems very disappointed that Jim is dismissed by most, when he's one of the most brilliant wrestling minds out there, because he stands his ground on certain concepts. If Jim could "evolve" the way Dave has, his legacy would be set and he could have a job anywhere. But Dave also doesn't understand that Cornette doesn't care about any of that. The guy just wants to make money and reminisce on the sport he use to love. He has no desire to play the game anymore.
@CleezyanaJones
@CleezyanaJones 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeyBuddays agreed Nwa was taylormade for Jim. Then he pissed off the powder puffs and lost that gig. I’d still like to see him back in nwa as a heel manager If nothing else.
@Darkreine99
@Darkreine99 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Meltzer is just jealous that Jim has more credibility in the wrestling world than he does.
@tylerboliver3428
@tylerboliver3428 3 жыл бұрын
Well you know Jim actually was in the wrestling business.
@rosybuddy28
@rosybuddy28 3 жыл бұрын
That has always been the case. He just got his head out of his ass long enough recently for him to realise it.
@gonzalogca4907
@gonzalogca4907 3 жыл бұрын
I like Uncle Dave, but he reacted like Kanye West on South Park in the "fish sticks" episode.
@oodatooitis6714
@oodatooitis6714 3 жыл бұрын
This is too underrated!
@CallmeA_B
@CallmeA_B 3 жыл бұрын
🤣👏 Thank you for a spot on analogy. I laughed way too hard at this.
@chloeirnes
@chloeirnes 3 жыл бұрын
Bitch, are you a Hobbit? I can't un-see this now! Thanks!
@nyrich10
@nyrich10 3 жыл бұрын
Dave's child-like "Come onnnn, take it back! Say you didn't mean it" on Twitter last night did make me laugh.
@joshbouman1654
@joshbouman1654 3 жыл бұрын
Meltzer is a mark for Meltzer marks. Ever notice all his favourite wrestlers happen to reference him constantly while working an exaggerated parody of the style he likes?
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 2 жыл бұрын
Which creates a self-sustaining feedback loop that forms the new paradigm of the sports entertainment industry, of which the only good thing about is Corny's commentary. 😂
@nihilozero
@nihilozero 3 жыл бұрын
"Do you think we're going to get ballots next year?" LOL
@z2ei
@z2ei 3 жыл бұрын
Meltzer doesn't get humor any more, no. I realized this when he started giggling at Being the Elite like a school girl.
@planetschlock
@planetschlock 3 жыл бұрын
If someone had a gun to my head and told me to either watch a 3hr Raw or 5 minutes of Being the Elite, I'd tell them to just pull the fucking trigger.
@TheFatSteez
@TheFatSteez 3 жыл бұрын
@@planetschlock Wow dude! Then you must really hate both shows!
@z2ei
@z2ei 3 жыл бұрын
@@planetschlock Raw. I can at least sleep through Raw.
@theunknownone5990
@theunknownone5990 3 жыл бұрын
I'd ask if it could be a Raw from more than 15 years ago
@jimbo-fk4dq
@jimbo-fk4dq 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Dave was padding votes by counting all of the "extra stars" Dave gives out in his ratings as votes.😂
@joemixon834
@joemixon834 3 жыл бұрын
I think Dave's reaction to corny now proves he stuffs his ballots and even perhaps his pants.
@branhasyoutube
@branhasyoutube 3 жыл бұрын
Never clicked so fast. Meltzer Magoo is such an AEW mark
@ZYaKnoe249
@ZYaKnoe249 3 жыл бұрын
Why does Brian Last still think Dave mutually likes him?
@jonnybrotten1290
@jonnybrotten1290 3 жыл бұрын
Why does he care?
@VegetabIeMan
@VegetabIeMan 3 жыл бұрын
@Charming Billy you criticizing a dude you never met (and most likely never will) before shows your worth.
@tylerpemberton7820
@tylerpemberton7820 3 жыл бұрын
Brian last is a yes man. Pretty sure he blows jim between segments
@jasonoyola8550
@jasonoyola8550 3 жыл бұрын
@@tylerpemberton7820 so Brian last, always goes first? lol
@Old_Joseph
@Old_Joseph 3 жыл бұрын
Because anyone next to Jim is the good cop when it comes to Dave
@davey3884
@davey3884 3 жыл бұрын
I have to keep reminding myself this argument is between adults...
@jeffreyriley8742
@jeffreyriley8742 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure if Observer Hall of Fame was a work before but it certainly is now.
@RandalfElVikingo
@RandalfElVikingo 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Meltzer has such a crush on Mr. Fingerbanged.
@saloz9483
@saloz9483 3 жыл бұрын
Yea it's obvious since how quick he was to put him in.
@RandalfElVikingo
@RandalfElVikingo 3 жыл бұрын
@Steven Bristol Remember the "Ho Bag" from Kayfabe Commentaries? I bet a lot of wrestler would put Omega in there.
@MetalJT24
@MetalJT24 3 жыл бұрын
More proof Dave is a massive Fanboy of Omega.
@LuisReyes-pb4dt
@LuisReyes-pb4dt 3 жыл бұрын
,Always great to listen to Jim and Brian.Interesting take on wrestling of today and yesteryear
@stealthmode1303
@stealthmode1303 3 жыл бұрын
Tony Khan and Vince McMahon need to listen to Corny’s videos.
@ProjectDevilEye
@ProjectDevilEye 3 жыл бұрын
Meltzer needs a new hobby, the guy is obsessed with every little thing Jim has to say.
@CaptainKenway
@CaptainKenway 3 жыл бұрын
He said, posting a reply to a video where Jim spends 33 minutes obsessing over what Dave said, which was in response to another long segment of Jim obsessing over Dave's hall of fame.
@gregoryfuller9736
@gregoryfuller9736 3 жыл бұрын
I heard dave called Jim a trump support
@RandalfElVikingo
@RandalfElVikingo 3 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainKenway You use a Jericho's selfie as a profile picture lol. Talking about obsessive.
@chwenhoou
@chwenhoou 3 жыл бұрын
Did Uncle Dave get butt-hurt again for being called out for his stupidity? It must be a day ending in "y".
@mr.mirchenstein6549
@mr.mirchenstein6549 3 жыл бұрын
These Meltzer thumbnails are great. So realistic & life like 😂😂
@shawnbaker3245
@shawnbaker3245 3 жыл бұрын
The only reason OLIVIER had such great matches in Japan because he was carried by great Japanese wrestlers.
@BeeBumper
@BeeBumper 3 жыл бұрын
Well thanks professor wrestling. I guess with all your years experience wrestling in Japan have finally paid off.
@MikeJr9284
@MikeJr9284 3 жыл бұрын
That’s why I think Omega is overrated. Okada probably carried Omega during all 3 of their matches yet Dave gave every Okada/Omega match 6 stars.
@bled83
@bled83 3 жыл бұрын
Professor Wrestling is the name of my band.
@TheDarkAntares
@TheDarkAntares 3 жыл бұрын
Something small but I lmao when he called Jericho “Jericovid” 😂
@jeffreycherep8264
@jeffreycherep8264 3 жыл бұрын
I love the way Travis draws Dave.
@MrBryantcm
@MrBryantcm 3 жыл бұрын
The drama going on between these guys is better than what is going on in the ring in WWE and AEW
@lonestarfriend
@lonestarfriend 3 жыл бұрын
As usual, great artwork Travis.
@travisheckel5576
@travisheckel5576 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@natedogg1979
@natedogg1979 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to mention how awesome this picture is. Between the piece of paper that Jim is tearing in half is Jim's face on his shirt. It really can be camouflaged with the white and black newspaper and is a perfect detail to the drawing.
@MattJungleCat
@MattJungleCat Жыл бұрын
I get a giggle everything he calls Omega "Twinkle toes McFingerbang". You can just imagine Meltzer losing it... stuttering and sounding like Morse code
@chisasa9509
@chisasa9509 3 жыл бұрын
Why does this Generation NEED a Meyer's Brigg's Personality test for everything they see?
@chisasa9509
@chisasa9509 3 жыл бұрын
Dave DID fix the Vote for Omega. He got so mad about it, cause he thought he was exposed.
@madddoggnogood1491
@madddoggnogood1491 3 жыл бұрын
You got proof of that
@maxxdahl6062
@maxxdahl6062 2 жыл бұрын
@@madddoggnogood1491 Yeah, any issue of the observer.
@Amit_V11
@Amit_V11 3 жыл бұрын
Forget Russo vs Cornette we can get Cornette vs Meltzer. Survivor Series match Team Cornette vs Team Meltzer.
@Will_kid_cortez
@Will_kid_cortez 3 жыл бұрын
When a Cornette joke or his sarcasm goes over your head 🤦‍♂️
@jmg3116
@jmg3116 3 жыл бұрын
Meltzer has always touted himself and the Observer as the unelected, would be definitive opinion on wrestling. It's no wonder he's finally lost it, as his egos grown too big to be contained.
@biggj21
@biggj21 3 жыл бұрын
Kenny twinkle toes omega🧚‍♂️
@Hakeem990
@Hakeem990 3 жыл бұрын
It's about time Netflix or Amazon gave Brian and Jim a show
@alo4912
@alo4912 3 жыл бұрын
Brian 100% should have been on this thumbnail, he spoke more. I wanna see brian in a thumbnail!!!!
@theraginggamer095
@theraginggamer095 3 жыл бұрын
not sure how many people (mainly Travis Heckel) knows what Brian looks like. If they do, then I agree!
@erickmack4131
@erickmack4131 3 жыл бұрын
He needs to be drawn as a talking inanimate object
@horrorstew3577
@horrorstew3577 3 жыл бұрын
@@theraginggamer095 I've been listening to Brian for years and I just realised I have no idea what he looks like lol
@BrandonMobley614
@BrandonMobley614 3 жыл бұрын
Jim Cornette is the star of the show, it's hard to find anyone smarter or more articulate in wrestling history. But Brian steers the ship on these shows. His research is on point, and although like most, he doesn't agree with all of Corny's opinions, he doesn't combat them in a confrontational or condescending manner. It's clear that they're friends off the air. You can't be a scrub if you want to talk wrestling with Cornette, he'd eat you alive.
@rosybuddy28
@rosybuddy28 3 жыл бұрын
But what does he look like? Does anyone know? Or would he be under a mask like Excrement?
@YorrB
@YorrB 3 жыл бұрын
So Dave puts people on the ballots. Retired wrestlers & Office didn't vote for him, couple historians voted for him for contributions to japan, some votes from current wrestlers, but got the nr.1 vote among reporters 😂😂 so the experts didn't vote for him, but the people who know the least about the wrestling business voted him in 😂😂
@Leelamon
@Leelamon 3 жыл бұрын
Who are these wrestling reporters. The kids on youtube wetting themselves over flips?
@timslee0618
@timslee0618 3 жыл бұрын
Even Les Thatcher who does his own podcast on Meltzer's site said it is to early for Kenny to be in the wo hof due to he is still active
@Thatisjustmo
@Thatisjustmo 3 жыл бұрын
LMFAOOOO “the two brothers pie face and balding and twinkle toes!!!” 😂😂😂😂
@coolhand3917
@coolhand3917 3 жыл бұрын
Tony Khan owns Meltzer now, Vince never gave him access, Bischoff has said on his podcast with Conrad that when he first took control at WCW that he tried to make a working relationship with him but he realised that it was a terrible idea after a short period of time after Meltzer went into business for himself. Dave is a mark fanboy, he only likes NJPW because of the level of access he had there and now in AEW he's actively on Tony Khan's payroll he is 100% fake news, I don't think Meltzer gives a damn about his "integrity" anymore and is just happy being behind the scenes, getting mudshow wannabes kissing his backside and stroking his ego, Meltzer is deluded enough to think he is now "one of the boys" and to him that is more valuable than anything. #MabelWasTheThirdMan
@tsaicho
@tsaicho 3 жыл бұрын
Still don’t think Meltzer is literally on AEW’s payroll. However, I do speculate (not sure if I am correct) that AEW may be bulk subscribing Wrestling Observer Newsletter by making multiple e-mail and user name accounts.
@TheSportsfan35
@TheSportsfan35 3 жыл бұрын
@Cool Hand, yep Meltzer & PWI'S Mike Johnson are both marks for themselves & apparently think they're on the same level or above people in the business & legends like Corny.
@timslee0618
@timslee0618 3 жыл бұрын
Actually Meltzer has access to WWE guys on and off. Even few years ago, WWE allowed him to do a recorded podcast interviews with like Becky Lynch
@jamirimaj6880
@jamirimaj6880 3 жыл бұрын
what is the integrity of a wrestling Hall of Fame that just inducted Sting in just 2016?!?! and they did it just because WWE inducted him months prior lol
@gpro_1982
@gpro_1982 3 жыл бұрын
Besides the matches with Okada, what has Omega done that constitutes a spot in a hall of fame? Not saying those matches weren’t great, but, seriously...
@tre10x18
@tre10x18 3 жыл бұрын
Vs Tetsuya Naito Vs Jericho Vs Jay White Vs Kushida Were good imo
@gpro_1982
@gpro_1982 3 жыл бұрын
Ski Mask The Plump God I’ll check those out thank you. 😊👍
@justoneguy2487
@justoneguy2487 3 жыл бұрын
@@tre10x18 but were they Hall of Fane worthy right now considering he's still an active wrestler?
@tre10x18
@tre10x18 3 жыл бұрын
@@justoneguy2487 i think vs naito, vs okada they were instant classics and vs jericho as well but him in the hall of fame i would have waited till the end of his career hes still in the middle of it to be saying hes a hall of famer
@packpock4369
@packpock4369 3 жыл бұрын
Wrestling a 9 year old girl lol. Only a niche group like him. He's not a mainstream name. He's not a name like Jericho.
@dougbrown04
@dougbrown04 3 жыл бұрын
99 percent of legendary wrestling talent hated Dave, or thinks he is a giant mark. That's all you need to know.
@TheSportsfan35
@TheSportsfan35 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly right. Harley hated Dave. Skandar Akbar hated him, so did Bobby Heenan just to name a few.
@kjpierson1152
@kjpierson1152 3 жыл бұрын
If dave is whining about Benoit, does he have Snuka in his hall of fame? -
@TheEnzyme94
@TheEnzyme94 3 жыл бұрын
You take the Omega vs Okada matches away? Then Omega would be an indy guy and thats it! Okada would still be an eligeable hall of famer, multi time NJPW world champ with loads great matches! With a string of classics. I don't hate Omega but hall of fame? He is in the middle of a career and has been ok when NJPW booked him. Now? I am not so sure. Uncle Dave is trying to fit in with the kool kidz!
@johngallagher72
@johngallagher72 3 жыл бұрын
Okada . .great matches vs AJ , Finn Suzuki , Ibushi, Naito, Tanahashi, Shinske, Jay White, ....Okada even had a great match against Bad Luck Fale proving he is this generations Flair.
@TheEnzyme94
@TheEnzyme94 3 жыл бұрын
@@johngallagher72 When one thinks of Omega? One thinks BTE or a blow up doll or him werstling a kid or video games. That is a problem. And you hear him talk and ugh! Hes terrible. He needs to build something or just be another well paid "also ran!"
@TheEnzyme94
@TheEnzyme94 3 жыл бұрын
@@johngallagher72 I hate to make comparisons to past Legends. But, if there was a wrestler today that a ProWrestling fan (not sports entdrtainment) would point at as the best representation of a ProWrestling World Champion? Okada is defenitely The Man in the recent era! Imho.
@antoniocamargo6580
@antoniocamargo6580 3 жыл бұрын
So he puts Kenny omega in the hall of fame after 3 matches with Okada? Prior to thst or after thst he has been irrelevant
@LMLR187
@LMLR187 3 жыл бұрын
More and more like Benzino in terms of his newsletter controversies.
@acevantura583
@acevantura583 3 жыл бұрын
Omega over stiners bros buff bag well Kane gold dust gangrel ken shamrock
@Will3476
@Will3476 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting all day for this
@Thatisjustmo
@Thatisjustmo 3 жыл бұрын
I 1000% agree with Jim’s views on Chris Benoit
@ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother
@ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother 3 жыл бұрын
Separate the art from the artist.
@magicbryant8
@magicbryant8 3 жыл бұрын
So glad Brian called Dave AND Jim out for getting bent out of shape anytime someone disagrees with their views on wrestling.
@ELPRES1DENTE45
@ELPRES1DENTE45 3 жыл бұрын
It's hilarious that he didn't make it in previous years, when he'd arguably peaked, yet when he's done nothing significant in the past 18-24 months, he gets in. Even his peaks weren't that great. He was carried to greatness by Okada and others.
@jester2trife
@jester2trife 3 жыл бұрын
The tongue is always too much haha. Pops me every time.
@timdertim
@timdertim 3 жыл бұрын
This is some of the best content this channel has to offer.
@jessycruz2465
@jessycruz2465 3 жыл бұрын
Omega is already being overshadowed by a lot of wrestlers in aew and the show isn't even two years old yet. Even pockets had a better push in 2020 than omega.
@totallybored5526
@totallybored5526 3 жыл бұрын
The omega should take the hint and stop doing stupid stuff with his hands, like O.J Pockets who does nothing
@thegolem9325
@thegolem9325 3 жыл бұрын
He hasn't had a single good match since he left NJPW and didn't have guys like Okada, Ishii, and Tanahashi to carry him anymore.
@ebransc09
@ebransc09 3 жыл бұрын
His last match was *******5/6... well below his usual standard
@thegolem9325
@thegolem9325 3 жыл бұрын
@@ebransc09 Meltzer’s stars mean nothing. He’s been hot garbage without actual talented wrestlers carrying him.
@britishbulldogsvsthehartfo5677
@britishbulldogsvsthehartfo5677 3 жыл бұрын
wrestling hall of fames don't exist, it's just one guy who makes the decision for selfish reasons, vince mcmahon does it to sell merchandise and meltzer does it to annoy cornette
@CallmeA_B
@CallmeA_B 3 жыл бұрын
Brian's all fired up and then giggling during the "My Bookie" part. This was great.
@MatsThyWit
@MatsThyWit 3 жыл бұрын
I have a theory. My theory is Dave sees how big Cornette's podcast and Cornette's Collectibles merchandise sales are becoming, and it makes him worry. It's perhaps not so shocking that Dave suddenly became so antagonistic towards Cornette when Cornette became, in some ways, a direct competitor for the first time in their twenty-odd year relationship.
@metallicbigtoe3949
@metallicbigtoe3949 3 жыл бұрын
Integrity, what an extinct concept lol
@Luke.S2099
@Luke.S2099 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, you learn something new everyday. I had no idea about Rocky Johnson. That's really f**ked up.
@psychobluesfxt
@psychobluesfxt 3 жыл бұрын
tomorrow morning I'm working out to this. I need that energy to push through T-lifts LOL
@alo4912
@alo4912 3 жыл бұрын
Pump it💪
@bled83
@bled83 3 жыл бұрын
Gay.
@Amit_V11
@Amit_V11 3 жыл бұрын
Is AJ Styles, Finn Balor, Roman Reigns, Drew, Seth Rollins, and many more in this Hall of fame?
@jasons2023
@jasons2023 3 жыл бұрын
Reigns and Rollins probably aren't.
@tendresseak27
@tendresseak27 3 жыл бұрын
Brian had a point there when he said both jim and dave do not do well with people with different opinions then them.
@bgcorporation
@bgcorporation 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a big, big big fan of Kenny Omega. I disagree with Cornette about him on a lot of things. That being said, hall of fame? Isn't he like in his "Peak" here? Or was his "Peak" in Japan? Ya he's 37, but, I just do not see Hall of Fame right now.
@MilMaska
@MilMaska 3 жыл бұрын
"What im saying is. Dave list his ever loving f n mind" - Jim Cornette
@russoswerve3974
@russoswerve3974 3 жыл бұрын
Cornette trying to defend Benoit’s HOF induction has him stuttering like Dave
@WhatAboutall
@WhatAboutall 3 жыл бұрын
Benoit is like a war vet according to Jim, so his defense is okay.
@dadncaleb
@dadncaleb 3 жыл бұрын
If you wanna bet on the exact moment Dave's brain turns to jelly and we're taking him to the home and he sipping soup through a straw..they'll take a bet on anything...Gold. 🤣
@peterbahi0227
@peterbahi0227 3 жыл бұрын
That Meltzer Tongue cartoon is classic 🤣🤣🤣. Funny because it was Russo that first mentioned it 🤣
@shanefrederick7731
@shanefrederick7731 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with Cornette about the Benoit point.
@phantomdriver2010
@phantomdriver2010 3 жыл бұрын
Poor Brian getting treated like trash because people don't like Jim Petty really
@romewilliams3526
@romewilliams3526 3 жыл бұрын
Rocky Johnson did what now?!?
@thguz13
@thguz13 3 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck I can't even explain the excitement I have for this. I'm a minute in and I know this will be fucking legendary.
@h4mz484
@h4mz484 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where the fumi saito views on omega are that Brian was talking about??
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