Jim Cornette on His Review Of Sasha Banks vs. Bianca Belair at Wrestlemania 37

[@anachronologist2017]

One thing that can never be taken away from Jim is his passion for this sport, and I appreciate the hell out of it, even if I don't always agree with him.

[@Kas58223]

Yea it was when Russo said are you serious you going be mad at me over wrestling it was then I know Russo fucked up Corny cut one of the most passionate promos how happy wrestling made him and wasn’t bout the money and sickened him this guy did a miscarriage angle and image someone in real life was going through that you want to kill whoever came up with that idea

[@Sarah_Gravydog316]

Don't have to worry about anyone disagreeing with Corny! Nobody will ever be that stupid...

[@KlawMan27]

@@Sarah_Gravydog316 Someone disagreeing with Jim is literally how the video starts

[@Sarah_Gravydog316]

@@KlawMan27 well, i typed that before i listened to the video

[@wackerh2]

Just his balls can be taken away like they just were. And guess what the idiots complaining prob don't even listen to corny. Just a bunch of cry baby lefties who get their feelings hurt when someone has the audacity to have an independent thought they don't agree with. Live by the sword die by the sword. I can't say enough how much fun it is to see cancel vultures turn on their so called own kind.

[@kena322]

He did all that talking, then Brian easily summed it up. Jim’s problem is that women were in the main event. That’s it. He’s ranting off topic

[@ra0929]

Exactly. Banks-Belair gave him everything they wanted. At least Cornette somewhat apologized. Maybe he'll be a little more aware going forward, though I doubt it. I think part of the problem too is that Banks-Belair wasn't promoted as the main event, and changing it at the last minute kinda hurt it in that sense.

[@scottmcginn2169]

The biggest issue I've had with Wrestlemania, and indeed most super shows/pay previews WWE has put on in recent years is this... many of the matches are good, but the journey to get there is so unwatchable. All the hype that should make you want to tune in is awful, and most people just cling on in the hope that the match will be good anyway. The build-up for Belair v banks was so convoluted, included a character that had had nothing to do with either of them prior, and who then vanished. It just stunk.

[@ProjectH1980]

It was trash. The build up should've been Bianca and Sasha, period! No Reggie, No Women's Tag Team Championships, No Shayna (Sadly she's been criminally underutilized and buried) and especially No Nia "My Hole!" Jax!!! Both Womens Championship programs suffered the same convoluted overbooking involving Shayna, Reggie and Nia. Charlotte got punished for supporting Andrade, taking her out of Mania. So when Rhea challenged Asuka, it came out of nowhere and made no sense.

[@kidneystonermusic]

Just watch the ppvs and make up your own backstory/build up

[@robfinlay8058]

WWE is the opposite of what wrestling TV should be, it is actually a de-promotional tool. They announce matches for the PPVs that sound like they might be good and then by the time they come around, all the stuff they have done on TV has been so bad that you have literally no interest in the big matches.

[@ProjectH1980]

@@kidneystonermusic If that were the case then you wouldn't have had a moment like, Stone Cold driving a beer truck into the arena and spraying the Mc Mahons live in front of a sold out crowd on Monday Night Raw. Though i am sure it got taken out of Peacock because it promotes alcoholism on minors, i bet.

[@kidneystonermusic]

@@ProjectH1980 I'm talking about 2021. Of course Raw mattered then.

[@JDotWill]

I agree with Corny’s overall take. When wrestling sucks you in to believing it, that’s when it’s at its best. Especially when it can get the most jaded, smart marks to buy in

[@kal0247]

Well said 👍🏽

[@Harukoon92]

CM Punk was a flash of that for me, when he cut the "Pipebomb Promo" it made me believe it was "real" - I to this day hate how they handled that run but his promos always felt "real" to a degree. Since then, there's been a few flashes where I buy in - Eddie Kingston is a good example of a promo I can buy as of late. I don't always agree with Corny - but I sure as fuck listen.

[@AWX_Wrestling]

@Confusion D. Silence GTFOH. Punk was something special. He could have led a resurgence of the wrestling business. Instead WWE chose to shove The Rock and John Cena down the fans throats for two straight years and shunted Punk to the side. What does it tell you that not only did Punk leave the WWE but for years after he pretty much didn't want anything to do with wrestling.

[@AWX_Wrestling]

@Confusion D. Silence Punk doesn't owe Vince McMahon or the WWE a goddamn thing. He was misused in favor of a part timer (The Rock) and a guy who more than half of the fanbase booed even though he was supposed to be a babyface (Cena). Punk wasn't over except for that one year? Punk was over from day one in the WWE. Whether he was a heel or a babyface he got the right reactions from the fans. Straight Edge Society, Nexus, Summer of Punk all the way down to his WWECW run he was over. His biggest downfall, if there was one, is he wasn't a big jacked up doofus like Vince has always had a heart on for.

[@danpats1]

That’s why Brock was my favorite. You knew he could really kill these people.

[@wo4176]

Always worries me when Jim cuts a reminiscing promo like this, because we all know, as much as I personally agree with him, we’ll never see anything like the old days ever again...

[@slavex7]

Even in the old days I don't think it was even as good as Jim remembers

[@gothchicksbongrips5712]

Wrestling might not be what it once was. But the people involved could still take it more seriously.

[@nina2x]

@@slavex7 the money, heat, & kayfabe is the magic of the 80s. It's dead

[@slavex7]

@@nina2x hard to keep that kind of heat going once the cat was fully out of the bag. I’m certain people knew wrestling was a work back in the day but since everyone in the business took it seriously everyone just watched and enjoyed it. Not to mention everyone exploding for options of what to watch and how in today’s market. It’s just interesting to hear Jim talk about wrestling as if it could ever return to what it was in the glory years

[@maxxdahl6062]

@@slavex7 Nah the old days were pretty awesome. I couldn't miss a show. Now you can't get me to even want to watch one.

[@exploringlightwarrior5310]

Incredible rant. If only a few still in the wrestling industry spoke on air with such conviction and sincerity...

[@u10ni97t2]

I'm with u Jim on the fans being more emotional. When I was 13yo, I didn't know the psychology of wrestling at the time. I've been a fan since age 10. My aunt used to take me to ALL the Jackson Coliseum matches of Mid South. I got kicked out the coliseum at 13 because Ted Dibiase cheated and won against Hacksaw Duggan. I was sooooooooo mad, I ran down from my balcony seat to the floor to hit Ted. I picked up a drink can and threw it at Ted and security wss right behind me and threw my lil ass out. I did sneak back in about 15m later so my aunt wouldn't know what happened and NOT take me anymore. I told Ted about when I was 19. He used to shop at KayBee Toys ( my job then) in the metrocenter in Jackson a lot. I finally worked up the nerves to tell him about that incident. He did his weird laugh and said "Thank you young lady, that means I did my job well that night" He also tipped me $100 for being a dedicated wrestling fan & letting him know that.

[@arnavbhagwat4232]

Wow! That's an awesome story. I'm a much younger fan and only started watching wrestling in 2008, but I love how much more enjoyable it was back then. I remember back in 4th grade, CM Punk had just cut his 'pipebomb' promo and won the Championship at MitB. I was probably one of the few kids in school who supported Punk over Cena, and the other kids at school beat me brown and blue because I said that I liked Punk. Those were honestly the best days to watch, when I genuinely believed in the wrestlers and their stories and journeys. Last time I felt that way was with Daniel Bryan in 2014.

[@u10ni97t2]

@@arnavbhagwat4232 Yes! Those were the great days of wrestling. I hadn't been emotional or wrapped up in storylines since the Attitude Era. I like Punk too.

[@wereallscrewed9714]

Hate to be that guy, but you were KIDS

[@u10ni97t2]

@@wereallscrewed9714 Kid or no kid. A fan is a fan

[@jaymeister4850]

Exactly! Wrestling needs heat to work. Ted built enough heat with YOU that you wanted to chuck something at him. I mean, I love Sasha and Bianca. Great athletes, great people. But seriously, did we really care about the outcome? Did I ever feel that I want to see Sasha or Bianca's face kicked in? Absolutely not. It has nothing to do with them being female, them being people of colour, them being young - it's that they (meaning WWE creative) have not made me invested in the outcome. Great story, and I hope your own kids one day wants to chuck their drinks at wrestlers in the future too

[@thisinhumanplace2037]

“Wrestling fans want a wrestling show where wrestlers wrestle!”

[@brendawhyyghbvuy6825]

A

[@gordonirvine726]

In a wrestling ring.

[@teresabarrera6855]

Why the hell would World Wrestling Entertainment want to put on a show like that?

[@erecsean2]

Jim really misses the good old days of real pro wrestling. It's like it's ripping the essence of who he is. I feel you Jim, I do.

[@liamcourt5530]

Wrestling is better now

[@MrJjburgess11]

Hes gotta learn to adapt to the changes better. I been watching wrestling since 1986. I wish it was still like the old days. But we all know it isn't and never will be again. So we gotta adapt to how it is these days . Or just don't watch at all. Having women in the main event didn't bother me. Because I realize the times we are in now.

[@1Leggo9my9Eggo2]

Different doesn’t mean good, and the product today isn’t good. It hasn’t been for almost 2 decades now bar here and there. So yeah anyone with any sense would stop watching, if you’re an adult and still watching that crap I feel very sorry for you, that you find that remotely entertaining and my sentiment has nothing to do with it being fake, it’s because wwe even with a watered down product didn’t do what the fans wanted ever. Like fair enough if you’re naturally going down in ratings but give what the fans want in the mean time because they put it on a plate for you and you still put it in the trash out of spite. That’s what Vince and the wwe have done for years now and have openly admitted it. At that point I feel sorry for any adult still watching. I stopped watching as a kid around 04/05 but it’s still close to my heart because of growing up watching it in the 90’s and early 00’s, same with my brothers, but we came to the same conclusion, because that’s not entertainment

[@liamcourt5530]

@@1Leggo9my9Eggo2 old man

[@WilbertAdams1]

Nobody's gonna hop the rail during any wrestling match because they don't want to get arrested and/or banned from any wrestling show.

[@blackace444]

Hell has frozen over. Jim Cornette has sincerely apologized about something.

[@michaelaction7031]

I know right the Apocalypse is nigh

[@kingkold]

I see what Jim is saying in terms of the wrestling business. Its understandable.

[@TheLibermania]

If you look at it from the Business site, many things Jim says are correct. Just think about Becky Lynch's pregnancy as example.

[@flyguy7825]

First off what the hell does that have to do with the match that he criticize to death with women?Most of the matches he sees he always criticize he doesn’t like but when it came to the women he basically said it came down to this the women main eventing Like that was some sort of bad thing and he criticize women wrestling to death.

[@BadNews44]

I dont want to see a 5 foot 1 110 pound girl main event anything let alone WrestleMania if that triggers u deal with it boy ✌️

[@commsense1979]

There's a ton wrong with wrestling today and Jim has pointed out lots of it. But women main eventing Wrestlemania is not one of them, nor is it a symptom. It's progress.

[@SairajRKamath]

But it still doesn't excuse his bias against women's wrestling.

[@darriusgivans6570]

I have seen this sport I love deteriorating in front of my eyes for over 20 years. It’s sad to see what wrestling is today.

[@Smokey1419]

I left for 20 years and came back to this...its just sad.

[@DespicablepunK25]

It's the comedy matches that killed wrestling.

[@sacredsteeler]

I remember first seeing participation trophies in elementary (99-00) and feeling that it was ultimately not good for growth... This is the result... a pussyfied generation

[@smvanderlouw]

@@DespicablepunK25 the internet killed wrestling

[@DespicablepunK25]

@@smvanderlouw yes a huge factor in the death of wrestling.

[@thesupervisor3270]

“The World titles should always end the show” -Jim Ross

[@kal0247]

#FACTS

[@Vibe1610]

Eh, not always. I’m glad Taker vs HBK main evented WM 26 for example.

[@kal0247]

@@Vibe1610 That might me the exception 👍🏽

[@Kas58223]

@@kal0247 Hogan Vs Rock Mania 18 should’ve been main event the audience was exhausted after that match and HHH vs Jericho had to follow it

[@stevenspears6937]

The argument could be made, in today's world, that the men's and women's World Titles are on par with each other.

[@matthillegas3099]

Banks vs. Belair sounds like a Fresh Prince episode.

[@TheMATMAN316]

It's a Mary Poppins and Fresh Prince crossover 😄

[@josephbiondi8427]

😂😂 👏

[@Ratmann8436]

Oh my god that's my favorite show and I never made that connection 😄

[@matthillegas3099]

@@Ratmann8436 I still come across the random rerun on occasion. It was a great show.

[@BillW10925]

Jim's reviews of matches are longer than the matches.

[@S31KO.]

Which is a miracle, since he spent about 30 seconds actually talking about the match.

[@sameasme2]

That's when you know you're in for a treat.

[@thomasross2404]

"This is where it's come to". That sums it up.

[@iAvrilFan1]

Brain was correct at the very end about audience more likely bringing knife to a women's match. Didn't just this past summer of 2020 some stalker tried to kidnap poor Sonya Deville and Mandy Rose from their home?

[@miked9112]

Too bad the Gentleman didn't succeed

[@saileshpatra9463]

@@miked9112 tf is wrong w u ?

[@TheMATMAN316]

There was also the alexa bliss stalker that threatened her bfs life several times

[@metallicbigtoe3949]

Pretty simple explanation to where all the wrestling fans have gone, the UFC, its the next evolution up from wrestling to the average person

[@metallicbigtoe3949]

@Aaron Lassiter thats a fair point

[@bren7883]

UFC is an organization, MMA is the sport

[@vlada]

@@bren7883 true and before covid you had top mma level organizations, regional mma scenes and local ones (never mind the grappling scene). Just like wresting used to.

[@OmegaRedFan]

@@vlada wresting

[@toxiciwctweets5191]

@Aaron Lassiter Trash 🙄 really?? That company is making shit loads of money !!! Atleast that sport is legitimate, unlike this goofy flip flop shit which ruined Wrestling for me

[@jamesselig8461]

We will never hear another promo like this cut ever again!!!!!

[@steaveadams7937]

Wait till next week

[@jamesselig8461]

@@steaveadams7937 yeah right 😂

[@wackerh2]

U mean a grovelling apology he definitely doesn't believe in right?

[@TheMATMAN316]

It's Cornette. I think I hear one every other week lol

[@GoToWork751]

Aside from Banks and Belair having a great match, another reason I liked this being the main event is because it gives credibility to the Royal Rumble. The main events on both nights featured the two Royal Rumble winners and one the biggest selling points of the Rumble is that the winner gets to fight for the title in the MAIN EVENT of Wrestlemania.

[@TheMATMAN316]

Bingo and this seemed lost on Jim, i wish Brian said something but maybe he reveled a bit on Jim digging his own grave lol and he does seem tough to work with

[@Maestro..]

No one was yelling and hollering for Charlotte to main event WrestleMania when she won in 2020. And when she wins the Rumble again, let's see what the same people who argued this point for Sasha/Bianca have to say

[@jordanfowler1762]

@@Maestro.. well that’s because the obvious main events at that time where going to be aj and taker because that was takers last match and drew and Brock because it was drews crowning movement.....

[@karleemills3869]

That’s what this is missing and it’s simple. We want stories, we want a heel vs babyface we don’t want to see rivals singing together or crying together. Do ppl think Connor McGregor and Khabib are going to sit and sing together?? NO bc they’d try to tear each other’s throats out.

[@q2rawgaming247]

I can relate, because I grew up on 1983 World Class Championship wrestling and the territory days, Vince turned wrestling into entertainment Barnum and Bailey circus acts, it’s hard to watch at times mos def 💯

[@johnnygrind77]

I'm from the WWF territory and grew up during the Rock n' Wrestling connection days. Even I hate the comedy stuff. ECW was alive and well when I was in high school, so that's the closest to that "Southern Style" where everyone just destroyed everyone with everything haha

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

Sasha Banks & Bianca Belair are NOWHERE in the mainstream near as over as Ronda Rousey was in her UFC prime.

[@DreDaDon16]

Nobody in Wrestling is

[@grudeman]

Rousey was a HUGE mainstream A list celebrity before she even got into wrestling, the only bigger star than rousey was mcgregor. Nobody in wwe will get anywhere close to them 2. The wrestling business is dead, it's outdated and embarrassing, within 5years it will be obselete as a form of entertainment and off tv. I was a lifelong fan but the last 14 years it's been unwatchable for a multitude of reasons, but first and foremost it's just outdated.

[@DBD253]

Prolly cause the UFC isn't predetermined and folks are actually fighting for real. Dumb take.

[@jeffreyriley8742]

James Smith Yeah, I kind of laughed at that comment.

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

More than an 1/8th. Being on over 200 magazine covers and headlining PPV's before the age of 30 means she was very popular. Rousey didn't have the career length those 2 have.

[@nickeiben4635]

He should win an award for that speech. Beautifully said.

[@wiscounter]

Nobody is going to attack the wrestlers anymore, because our society is so paranoid about crime that we throw the book at people for things that used to get a slap on the wrist. They've gotta fill those prisons; it's profitable. I'm not going to get an aggravated assault charge and 3 years locked up for sliding into the ring during a Bad Bunny match.

[@Dr170]

Beta.

[@mr.tonywilliams1236]

Cornette acts like he wasn't in the wwf when Vince started exposing the business but blame's Russo

[@mikegatt76]

Blame the kliq for that dumbass stunt they pulled in 96. It was all downhill from that moment.

[@jaiel26]

@@mikegatt76 you wanna blame the kliq like the internet doesn't exist. The entire crowd knew hall & Nash were leaving before the match. Can't have kayfabe in the information era.

[@vb2806]

@@jaiel26 Kayfabe doesn't mean people don't know at all but when it's your weekly show and you do something completely out of the ordinary which hinders the storyline that's going on then you are hindering your product.

[@jaiel26]

@@vb2806 in that scenario it wasn't a weekly show it was a house show at MSG. Wasn't televised

[@hughmungus8340]

Well Vince McMahon ruined his own promotion, Vince Russo ruined two.

[@marcusmckinney6153]

With how traditional Jim is I'm surprised he uses the internet

[@stevenspears6937]

Almost like him using a Podcast is exactly what he is against in terms of advancements in life.

[@brianm2881]

@@stevenspears6937 He should cut a 2 hour promo each week and distribute it via VHS.

[@manuelper]

@@stevenspears6937 That's not at all what he's trying to convey. He's basically saying, people would watch wrestling in the same way folks watched Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones; you were into the story, the characters, it wasn't about 'ratings' and comedy (though where appropriate), it's about the characters and their outcomes. And you root for characters in the proper context of the show. That's what he's saying. Too hard to understand?

[@jakubwidlarz]

Is that Jesus or Seth Rollins?

[@CamGriffeyJR]

😆😆😆 I was just about to post that.

[@euphrateslewis9093]

Nah, it's IC Title Era Daniel Bryan

[@QuantumNova]

Yes.

[@supergluehotty]

@@kellerblair2952 ya beat ne to it.

[@DespicablepunK25]

Jesus Rollins

[@Luke.S2099]

Lol, I thought that was Seth Rollins in the thumbnail.

[@thecake6635]

I can't wait to hear Jim talk about Uncle Dave's take on this

[@benjaminbremer4261]

What did dave say?

[@thecake6635]

@@benjaminbremer4261 Bianca tearing up at the beginning of the match spoiled that she was winning the match

[@rayanal-shikhi140]

@@thecake6635 weed legal is California..

[@SonOfMuta]

@@thecake6635 Bullshit. They were both tearing up due to the historical significance of the moment. Dave is wrong (shocker).

[@thecake6635]

@@SonOfMuta EXACTLY!

[@blackjack23able]

Jim Cornette should be more pissed off at Vince McMahon then he is at Vince Russo, Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks combined...

[@hughmungus8340]

No he really shouldn't, if anything he should be most pissed at himself and he often admits it was him in the wrong. Vince McMahon has charm and that counts for alot, all the other three have no charisma at all and the saddest part is Vince Russo is probably the best talker out of all the people named after Cornette and McMahon.

[@popcorn247]

Exactly! He exposed his own business to save his own hide in court. Then he abandoned what made him a success in the first place.... wrestling!

[@TheLibermania]

Wasn't it a goal of Vince McMahon that Wrestlemania is over and not the wrestlers? That's the problem.

[@crspears88]

Yep, he succeeded, same with WWE. Most my friends that casually watch or people that don’t watch aren’t even aware of any of the current roster or the champion anymore.

[@TheSportsfan35]

@@crspears88 & that's the problem, especially now that WM just seems like it's just another show.

[@almightycinder]

He wants it so everybody is expendable, and that the brand is more important. Once somebody wants to leave, he can just move on to the next one and the business will be the same. And he never wants somebody to get as popular as The Rock ever again. If they want to be in movies, they can be in straight to DVD WWE movies.

[@13JacksonMr]

@@almightycinder and that's been the downfall and why over 8 million people have tuned out from watching wrestling. Vince tries to have his cake and fuck it too. He wants the brand to be the main event but not realizing that it was the wrestlers who got it that far. Now when you don't have the wrestlers who were that over like the Rock and others, it's hard to keep that brand as the main event.

[@Candeman_5000]

I understand what Jim is saying but he has to come to terms that, sadly, all that he is saying is long gone and its not coming back, kayfabe and okd school wrestling are long dead

[@inuenndo_]

It’s his gimmick at this point, he thought Wrestling was too hokey in 97

[@deathmauler181]

Bingo

[@intelligentfool09]

I remember a time when a body slam was enough during a 10 minute wrestling bout.

[@1Leggo9my9Eggo2]

Yeah I mean that’s never going to work in 2021, since culture in general is far too impatient for that. But there’s a happy medium if the storylines work and there in lies from the problem. We knew it was fake but this is too fake now and they don’t care.

[@intelligentfool09]

@@1Leggo9my9Eggo2 Facts!

[@malikevans2615]

That shit sounds boring af now I'm not saying you need a 1000 flips and all that shit they do now but that old school shit is soooo slow again not saying you need to go 100 miles an hour like you're kimmy omega but who wants to watch rest holds for 10 minutes just to end on simple body slam? I know times were different but ehhh

[@LordKnt]

@@malikevans2615 Yet an actual number of people used to watch the sport when it was """boring af""" and now modern "fast-paced" wrestling draws a pathetic amount of viewers each week

[@malikevans2615]

@@LordKnt seen one flip seen em all

[@ShelCorporation]

If people can believe in a super soldier with a shield made out of a metal that doesn’t exist, a billionaire with a metal flying suit, a Norse god from another dimension fighting a purple alien, people can believe in pro-wrestling again.

[@michaelaction7031]

Damn that's a hell of a point, in 2021 people mark over Cinematic Comic Book Characters than live action wrestlers. Wild Stuff.

[@truipevo8814]

It changes with a better presentation Edit: Im still hoping...otherwise prepare your "back in my days" stories when noone knows what even wwe is...

[@cheesierspark597]

Wow that’s a great look on things!!

[@vb2806]

They have the freedom of CGI and none of the actors wink on the camera when a scene is being shot. RDJ remains tony stark in avengers and doesn't become RDJ when they are filming a scene. kayfabe has been dead for years in film industry and yet we suspend our disbelief because of how professional people are. Well they aren't anymore in the wrestling business.

[@ra0929]

The issue I have is that everything that cornette likes was in the Banks-Belair match. The emotion, the facial expression, the storytelling instead of a spotfest. He picked the wrong time to get nostalgic. He is 100% right about his feelings towards the sport. But it hasn't been that way for a long time. It's all performance art, not much different from movies or television or any media that has an antagonist and protagonist doing battle with each other. With that said, it was troubling to me that the place of the Banks-Belair match on the card was clearly audibled. Lashley-McIntyre was promoted as the main event, and changed at the last minute. To me, that kinda takes away from them, instead of having them promoted as the main event from the beginning.

[@xxxaragon]

and his comparison to "lingerie football" is also missing the point and really insulting. because it's not like this was some 2004 bra-and-panties affair, but a "legitimate" match. (if it had been such a "fluff piece" in the main event, his criticism would be warranted. but it wasn't)

[@DGS_1992]

Sasha banks and bellaires match was sub par. It's not even in the same universe as a rock and Austin main event match.. Maybe I just grew up when wrestling was far more superior and I actually can think independently. But just because they are two black women who main evented a ppv does not mean I'm gunna give it 5 stars.

[@xxxaragon]

@@DGS_1992 that being said, there were countless other WrestleMania main events that weren't as good as Rock/Austin either. (it could be argued that even the first of their matches at WMXV had a ton of heat but wasn't that much "as a match")

[@DGS_1992]

@@xxxaragon michaels vs taker Austin vs Rock Cena vs rock Brock vs angle Brock vs reigns Michales vs Brett hart Hogan vs rock Taker vs HHH All were better than sasha vs bellaire

[@xxxaragon]

@@DGS_1992 nitpicking sidenote: Hogan vs. The Rock technically wasn't the main event (although it should have been and was de facto). Taker vs. Triple H literally wasn't.

[@izanagi_999]

I love Brian's perspective tho.

[@segagenesis7708]

Brian has a daughter. Brian gets it. Brian is now in that frame of mind where he recognizes that he will see the sort of shit women go through to be successful firsthand. That's the perspective that Jim is missing.

[@5fing3rD3athPunch]

I don't have a problem with women main eventing but what I do have a problem with is the fact that Sasha Banks vs Bianca Belair was the main event just because they are African American and that is not a reason to get the main event spot, nothing about the build to the match or the way they presented Sasha or Bianca in the build up suggested WWE viewed them as the main event, it was only when twitter brought up the African American thing that WWE announced they would headline night one. The first African American wrestlemania main event should be because they are the top stars with the biggest build not just because of their ethnicity. you cant give a match an awful build then stick it in the main event and expect me to suddenly care because its 2021 and they are African American and look how HISTORIC it is.

[@gsm7313]

The build sucked and there was definitely an identity politics feel around the push for it to main event. It is clear by the build that Vince did not actually view it as a main event, and this week’s Smackdown was another reminder of this, as it was once again the Roman Reigns show, with Bianca getting a segment in the middle of the show and Sasha briefly being shown backstage. All of that said, the in ring product delivered and they proved that they very much deserved to be in that position.

[@andreholly2027]

You wrote all that when you could of saved time by saying you hate that black people main evented because I’m a bigot

[@savageandthebeasts8388]

I think Corny let's his sexism cloud his judgment. The women of the WWE are some of the best workers in the business today.

[@Gavin48]

He looks at things from a business POV. Yes the women are great today. But they have led to a decline in viewership and public interest. Back in the day people didn't care about Match Quality and star ratings. We cared about characters and compelling storylines and storytelling.

[@luisg.407]

WWE women are way better than AEW's but at the same time, look at how atrocious the women's tag team turmoil match was. Sasha, Bianca, Asuka, Charlotte, Rhea, and Bayley are some of their best, but Sasha vs Bianca wasn't a main event attraction to me so I agree with Cornette. Sasha/Bianca's build up was terrible. They had Lashley vs McIntyre which legit had the question would Lashley retain as champ or would they give Drew his moment in front of the crowd as everyone predicted. Besides Lashley vs McIntyre is for the company's top belt. Thats the belt with all the main event history and lineage. For it to be the first match was ridiculous.

[@S31KO.]

I wish we had this same energy for that atrocious Wrestlemania 35 “main event” as this one. At least that one deserved it 😂.

[@braepil]

Jim needs to admit to himself that no one thinks wrestling is real anymore and that no one aside from him care's about that stance. Imagine being a fan of any other scripted medium and getting upset that the main villain and hero don't actually hate each other in real life.

[@intelligentfool09]

Its not about being real or fake.Its simply about the art of storytelling.

[@corbinmacklin185]

The meaning of main event is lost because of the simple fact that no one is a draw now. No one makes an appreciable difference to the ratings or if they were selling tickets. Now anything can main event.

[@rjs659]

True, but Roman is the closest thing to a real draw now.

[@corbinmacklin185]

@@rjs659 and I am thankful to him for the food he put on my table

[@michaelaction7031]

@@corbinmacklin185 😂

[@dawson6196]

@@rjs659 I agree. Roman Reigns is the only wrestler, that I see and can say he is a legit star.

[@vb2806]

@@corbinmacklin185 So you acknowledge him?

[@juripuerco9536]

Wrestlemania 35 had a girl match as main event and drew 17 millions in ticket sales with around 80k fans.

[@96mrjones]

Wrestlemania draws. That's the problem. I didn't even know that Becky Ronda charlotte were main eventing until I watched the cultaholic reaction and usually when they have a big main event everyone knows whether they are wrestling fans or not

[@MedIevalCyrax]

And none of it is believable because the wrestling industry has been destroyed by Jim Herd, Mark Madden, Vince Russo and many others I could name that have had huge negative impacts on wrestling.

[@juripuerco9536]

@@96mrjones wellington that's also true

[@mastershredder78]

Jim totally nailed it on that rant. 👏👏👏

[@cedrice.4777]

Where was that energy when women main evented Wrestlemania 35 Jim ? Why didn't he mind at all, Becky, Ronda and Charlotte main eventing then ?

[@jamaalmoses8821]

His Blonde Blindspot.

[@FoxNewsChannelSux]

Do we know he didn't?

[@josefinajordao1569]

Becky and Ronda sell a lot. Bianca and Sasha not so much, however, I didn't mind them main eventing the shown.

[@CM-jc7gk]

I go with Jim on about 96% of his opinions on things, but this is part of that 4% where he's holding on to the past too hard. There are about 735 problems with the WWE & the wrestling industry as a whole, but featuring 2 excellent women (1 of whom won the women's Royal Rumble, the other has been the best female wrestler in any major promotion over the last 9 months), & they're both black women, in the Night 1 main event of Wrestlemania, is not any real contributing factor towards wrestling's decline. The audience has been shrinking very steadily over the last decade, way before Sasha/Bianca would've ever even been pitched as a Wrestlemania main event. Meanwhile, Jim dreams of a day when it's like the old Southern territories again, but no entertainment company in 2021 is making huge money focusing on Southern white guys as the big demographic to appeal to. The country's demographics have changed radically in the last 20 years & entertainment companies are understandably leaning into that to survive. It's not about giving women a Wrestlemania main event slot because they're women, Carmella & Dana Brooke will not be main eventing next year, it's about Sasha & Bianca both being able to pull a WM main event match off as the best match of the weekend, & the cultural significance of their match for a much more diverse audience.

[@corpyhogan4433]

The review got so much heat because Jim didn’t even review the match Lol not saying he can’t have an opinion but just dismissing the match out right is would annoyed a lot of people

[@gsm7313]

So true. I’m sure many men from Cornette’s era did not care about or like women’s wrestling. I’m sure at one point Steve Austin was not a fan of it. Things evolve and people should evolve. Bob Holly criticized women’s wrestling in his book but changed his mind when he saw the crop of talent that came out of NXT. Banks and Bayley might be Steve Austin’s two favorite wrestlers in the world right now. I acknowledge that there is a gap between the top female talent in WWE and the rest, that terrible tag team match earlier on night one is a prime example of that. That said, Sasha Banks is on that higher level of the spectrum, and as far as I’m concerned, she is as good as any man in WWE, and has routinely had better matches than the men to the point where she at 23 years old made it that fans didn’t care about Kevin Owens and Finn Balor in a ladder match. She is super talented, and Jim Cornette should at least give her the courtesy of actually seriously watching and reviewing matches of hers that air on programs he watches

[@davidburke7777]

Who cares the match itself wasn’t even built up well.

[@kingmikesworld307]

Becky vs Ronda would've been a recorded setting main event that most people were dying to see....then they fucked it up by adding Charlotte. 😳

[@Lukeor]

Like austin vs rock? Or like "hey these 2 are kinda popular now"?

[@randyk_18]

Definitely wouldn't have set any records.

[@kingmikesworld307]

@@randyk_18 no, go back and look at the attendance for that ppv. Shorten the card, remove the robot 🤖 flair, and tell me what you see.

[@kingmikesworld307]

@Aaron Lassiter first off simps spend money. It's the same thing as a Jon, you trick. There's no way you can tell me people weren't insanely hype for that match. Go back and watch the build from survivors series to the royal rumble to the addition of Charlotte and tell me where it got fucked up at.

[@alexalexalex797]

The sad truth is exactly that which brian said. At this point, the wwe is the star. Not the wrestler. There are no superstars anymore. John cena was possibly the last one, and even he wasn’t in the levels of hogan, rock, austin. They felt larger than life. Now they are all literally interchangeable. Honestly nobody really stands out. Because its too sterile as a product.

[@Shannon-im7re]

When austin, rock, Hogan, undertaker, all those greats are no longer able to answer vince calls forna quick ratings boost i think he may be in trouble then. John cena is the last big draw. They havent created stars dor their future success

[@alexalexalex797]

@@Shannon-im7re thats happening as we speak. Its a very shiny sinking ship.

[@Abusiveyes]

I love how JC pretends he hates Republicans, but makes sexist statements like this all the time.

[@louclarkson6098]

The way this man balances his brilliant wrestling philosophy and his politics is some truly quantum stuff. I love this guy.

[@1Leggo9my9Eggo2]

I think Jim would realise he’s more centre left than he is complete left if he evaluated every political aspect possible because I’ve seen him disagree with a lot of the agendas the left have multiple times as he does the right. Being stupid isn’t reserved for one side, I’d be shocked if Jim didn’t end up being centre left in a personal politics test

[@louclarkson6098]

@@1Leggo9my9Eggo2 i would agree with that. It frustrates me how man so sharp can be so tribal.

[@jamaalmoses8821]

Hart vs Austin was not the main event at WM13. It was the mess that was Taker vs Sid.

[@gsm7313]

Jim should talk with his friends Stone Cold and FTR about just how good Sasha Banks is. Those guys are also fans of “old-school wrasslin,” yet they understand that Sasha is a great wrestler who is worthy of headlining shows and is capable of outperforming the men in WWE (which she has done on numerous occasions.)

[@gsm7313]

@@bw3230 Not over him, And no one would argue that she would headline a show over him. But in general I don’t know if he would have a problem with it

[@gsm7313]

@@bw3230 Different eras. Austin probably would not want or advocate for anybody headlining over him, and at his peak no one did. That said Austin knows talent. In his current position no one is paying or forcing him to compliment women like Sasha and Bayley the way he does. He sees their talent and this is from somebody who’s watched for decades and understands what makes a talented professional wrestler.if he did not genuinely see their talent and ability he would not go out of his way to talk about them the way he does

[@gsm7313]

@@bw3230 Of course it can’t be he really feels, Austin just has to be kowtowing to political correctness LOL.

[@gsm7313]

Austin doesn’t actually like that black girl! He’s only pretending to in order to avoid the woke police!

[@jasonwright519]

The Information Age prevents adult fan immersion in pro wrestling from ever happening again. Regardless of how wrestling is presented.

[@ptptptman]

I find it pretty funny how often Jim crows about Rhea Ripley being a future movie star and Sasha Banks is already in the Mandalorian

[@murrlandmac6340]

Movie star and an appearance on a show are two different things but go off

[@ptptptman]

@@murrlandmac6340 for the record, I’m not dissing Rhea at all, I’m a fan of both of them. But yeah, that’s how it goes. It starts with small but prominent roles, then boom bigger roles

[@ptptptman]

@@murrlandmac6340 *2 appearances btw

[@hughmungus8340]

@@ptptptman No it starts with Disney wanting to purchase WWE for a good few years now, and Vince has always pushed his "superstars" to do movie roles, love how when someone good happens it's all on their talent but when they fuck up it's evil old man Vince. Sasha got hired because she's snoop doggs cousin a product of literal nepotism, she's no different than triple h marrying into the spot.

[@ptptptman]

@@hughmungus8340 lol aight (the actual reason is because they saw her on an episode of that hot wings show on KZbin and liked her btw)

[@lewisharris3400]

I'm sorry if the physiological differences between genders means that men are capable of performing in a way that women can't in practically every sport, but get mad at God or evolution for that - not the people that don't particularly enjoy women's wrestling. Most people that watch any sport, or what is being portrayed as sport, want to watch it at the highest level. You can demand equal rights for women until you are blue in the face, but you cannot demand that people enjoy watching a sport performed by women when they prefer to watch it being performed at a higher level by men.

[@XombieLejon66]

I been listening to Jim for years, I love his stories about the old days, and while he's usually on the money about the massive problems with WWE and AEW, he isnt always right.

[@yourgrammarisnotverygood1827]

Can you give an example of him being wrong? It's definitely not here, since no one believed in this match and wanted to see Sasha hurt.

[@Maestro..]

Corny will never get over the fact that it's not the 80s anymore. He will yearn for those days until his last breath

[@nooneinparticular5273]

I agree with Jim on the state of the modern wrestling business, but can't take his side on women main eventing and especially comparing them to the lingerie football league. I know that comparison wasn't his point, but it irked me cause the women have earned more respect than that. The match was good, bereft of most all of the things Jim hates most in wrestling, aside from the wrestlers involved being women. It was a good match, had some spectacle and a big emotional pay off for Bianca Belair. It belonged in the main event. The build towards the match however was shit, but that can be said of every match on this year's Wrestlemania, aside from Drew vs Lashley that I thought was alright. That isn't Bianca or Sasha's fault though, it's WWE having no clue how to tell a story anymore.

[@seventhseventhnineteen2215]

I agree. I think Jim's problem is, the women are actually trying and respecting the business more than most of the men. Even if you have a terrible build up, you can still put on a good match, which is what the women are doing. For Jim, its basically seeing the backup QB go in and steal the show, which he isn't used to nor he thought would ever happen. I also think Jim sees legitimate talent and wrestlers across the companies, who could bring back the nostalgic feelings, but there's so few of them it'll never culminate into a great promotion.

[@johnmichael7067]

So an apology but not really? You've compared woman's wrestling to a stipulation match and complained that they should not be doing anything that the men do (Royal Rumble, weapons, ladders, main event, etc). So the men should "reach for the stars" and the woman should "reach fo the ceiling"? Female talent have come into there own in the last few years and have seen massive popularity when allowed to act outside of those barriers set by old minds like Jim. A lot of the storylines and matches are new to the division, and in wrestling new is always popular. I understand why Jim hates todays wrestling and have had my doubts about it as well. He grew up in a time when wrestling was a certain way and has never change his mind on it. I grew up with 90's wrestling but that never stop me from exploring the many styles of wrestling. Heck, woman's wrestling in the 90's main stream was either non existent or far from good. That doesn't mean I hate it today, you grow as a person and your mind evolves with it. Just because I don't have the urge to stab anyone of todays wrestlers doesn't mean they aren't over. The Sonya Deville incident wasn't good and I would not wish that on anybody. I'm not a Sasha or Bianca fan (prefer Charlotte & Rhea) but I can recognize the significance of them headlining WM night 1. Hope one day you can see something like that and not scoff at it, but I doubt it.

[@johnmichael7067]

@@bw3230 Ratings are what they are and that is not what I was arguing. To say that todays female talent are not popular is incorrect. A lot of these woman have huge fan bases, Alexa Bliss's huge numbers on YT are why her Fiend storyline is still a thing. While some of the current Raw/SD womans scene is bad, that doesn't mean it all sucks. There are some great womans matches/storylines out there but with a " bathroom break" mentally how would you know? Same goes for the small guys, if you can't see someone like Darby Allin as good (even Jim likes him) because of his size then I can see why modern wrestling isn't for you. Caring about size over talent is why guys like Benoit & Eddie had to endure so much. To say no one is over based on your own beliefs then you just sound like Jim. Ratings as I said are what they are and I am a part of some of those ratings. Its easy to abandon wrestling and hate/criticize it. But there are people like me who've stayed with most of it though all the ups and downs because I still love it. If all you can see is size/gender then do you really like wrestling?

[@pazuzumcgee232]

WWE fan base nut over themselves over everything that company does. The match was ok I agree with Jim it wasn’t as good as people say it was.

[@jenisia3600]

This, match was good but not worthy a WM main event.

[@standardofexcellence]

Developed Stockholm syndrome over the way vince insults fan iq

[@MightMouse2174]

It was a good match but nowhere near one of the best WM main events of all time like some say but I thought it was better than the women's triple threat

[@pkj2148]

@@jenisia3600 It wasn't.

[@KB-hh8rt]

I personally didn't care for their match and scratched my head when I found out they were the main event for night 1. Vince has gone full senile.

[@QAZ-OMEN]

Jc's problem is he thinks he is talking to people who don't watch it

[@hughmungus8340]

I mean most of his fanbase watches AEW to shit on the wrestlers, I can't put myself through either that or WWE really anymore, so in a way he is.

[@BusinessOfFear]

I don't watch it. I haven't since 2016.

[@thebobbydrake6]

The real problem is he's off topic. Do the move by move breakdown of a match he said was good......THEN he can talk about how it (or any other match according to his description) shouldn't be the "main event" of Wrestlemania. His issue sounds like he's against Sasha & Bianca when really it's that wrestling ain't rasslin' the way it used to be and the way he likes it

[@Exiled28]

While I don't agree with everything Jim has to say, demanding him to CHANGE his way of thinking of something is very rude, people should be entitled of their opinion, if he didn't liked the match then so be it, that's why I enjoy Cornette's postcast because his opinion is unfiltered and for the most part pretty honest without being too mindful about "offending" people.

[@pkj2148]

He has the right to not like the match(he actually has no problem with the match, his problem is that it "mainevented" WrestleMania), but the problem is that the reasoning he is giving isn't valid.

[@Exiled28]

@@pkj2148 yeah you worded it better than I, still I was referring to people bashing him for not having the same opinion as them and demanding him to change his way of thinking, that's rude.

[@deathmauler181]

@@pkj2148 exactly and his major issue was cause they are women

[@Gavin48]

Jim is right

[@tyler8652]

Corny deserves a "Battle Hymn of the Republic" of his own from 8:00 on

[@darrengordon-hill]

🎤HIS TRUTH IS MARCHING ON

[@KayDee215]

I lost it at "as a matter of fact, it was Tulsa" 😅🤣😂

[@wackerh2]

Yes as he cowardly gives in to pressure from.his own pretend woke kind.

[@ZeonRemnants]

i look at it like this the 2 rumble winners got the main event slots if theyre gonna continue doing 2 nights (which they should but reports are coming out that they arent) they should continue to do that. the winner of the rumble rarely gets the actual main event of mania anymore so in doing this the rumble would also get some prestige back . instead of just getting the title shot they get the main event as well (which is how it used to be )

[@brucewhite360]

I really hope they are people out there feeling like Jim feels.. It's sad what Wrestling world has become these days.

[@DGS_1992]

There are many people who feel exactly how Jim feels.. i even agree on the sasha banks and bellaire match, that match was boring, I ended up turing it off mid way thru, but yes, plenty of people agree, thats why the ratings are so piss poor. The main fan base now is kids under 12, the leftist SJW's, and the indy nerd fans.

[@BeyondDaX]

@@DGS_1992 There are many but not enough to get Vince or his cronies to listen what is needed in WWE

[@ak96ful1]

I think Jim just needs to wrestle a ninja turtle again. That might make him feel better.

[@erickmack4131]

This thumbnail is fuckin hysterical in so many ways Travis. Awesome social commentary via art

[@DudeThatDrums]

Name more than one way it is hysterical or any of the “social commentary” you’re observing from it please.

[@erickmack4131]

@@DudeThatDrums no

[@DudeThatDrums]

@@erickmack4131 embarrassing. L

[@clarencegutsy7309]

Can we stop pussyfooting around and just say we're supposed to like Bianca vs. Banks because they are two black women and the commentary even pointed out how historical a moment this was? They didn't main event because they are over or had a hot feud, they main evented because it's good PR in a turbulent social world out there.

[@-JAVY-]

It was so great, that the Fans was leaving the arena during the match

[@jpowers55]

THANK YOU!!!!!

[@Darkness1984]

Sometimes I think jims idea of Wrestling is two guys in the Ring, super pissed at each other and trying to kill each other with knifes.

[@dawholep]

Well he did hire New Jack in SMW

[@Darkness1984]

@@dawholep wich is kinda ironic, Jim hates matches with weapons, yet hires a guy who literally tries to slice his opponent with razor blades.

[@redwolfe7049]

I've been saying for a long time that WWE thinks it's the brand and not the wrestlers that should be over. That's why when someone is over when they don't want to be over, they try to railroad them. They tried it with Becky(at first), Rusev Day and other acts that were over with the fans. They have purposely destroyed people that could've printed them money because creative's nonsense doesn't get them over.

[@florence9660]

Jim is saying the same thing the undertaker did about the business being soft nowadays

[@jeffreyriley8742]

The men's divisions are virtually non-existent and they're pushing the women to the moon.

[@manuhakala]

Well I mean the rules of basketball HAVE changed a lot through out the years

[@Damon.Norris]

That jiffy lube reference was funny af 😂😂😂 i used to work for them for 2 yrs

[@itsnovalouise]

man his basketball analogy was kinda sad... because thats actually whats happening in the nba right now

[@1Leggo9my9Eggo2]

Yank owners are trying to do it everywhere, they just tried to do it with football in Europe which generates the most money and views of any sport. So yeah they know no boundaries, I’m not surprised they’re trying it with nba as well, Essence of sports means nothing in the US, just dollar bills.

[@WilbertAdams1]

NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB... it's all over the place.

[@todd1928]

This match had everything Jim looks for in a great modern day match. Emotion, talented wrestlers, a well thought out match, great story and an excellent finish. His only problem was that it was women.

[@robertgrimsley7363]

I think its very easy and clear to see that Jim is a prejudice fuck lol

[@KB-hh8rt]

Nah, their match wasn't that good. Only simps and SJWs praise this shit.

[@nox7282]

Yeah, if it were Charlotte or Rhea he'd be singing an entirely different tune. The idiot who replied to you knows that, too 🤣

[@jstun2318]

The shit is fake and you're mad because you want people to belive it's real. Nobody is getting upset because there is no consequences to them and anybody that was mad about wrestling wasn't that intelligent. Hold this L! The current wrestling fans just want better writing and stars. The wrestling itself is a lot better than some 9f the old school who would miss strikes and have ugly big spots.

[@juegofuego6715]

Jim should write a comic book

[@darkastonvillafan]

He already has

[@florida_guy03]

Wrestling will NEVER go back to the way it was. Society and cancel culture will never allow it Bc everyone has gone soft and their feelings get hurt so easily. I thought aew was the answer, it wasn’t it might be worse. It’s just almost impossible to get excited for a match.

[@willdallas53]

Jim’s point is on the money. You’re out of your mind if you think that banks or Belair is in the same league as Rousey was in the ufc. She was a phenom. No one, male or female, is on her level in pro wrestling.

[@hughmungus8340]

Well actually you could make an argument Rousey is relegated to the lowest tiers of the UFC, she lost any fan support when she disrespected Holly Holm for no real reason and then lost, then the Nunes fight just finished her career in the Octagon, she called WWE fake bullshit fighting then came crawling to them for a payday. Yet even after all that negative shit, she was still more of a draw when she came to WWE than both of those women and I can't stand Ronda.

[@willdallas53]

@@hughmungus8340 no you can’t because the topic is her drawing power when she was in the ufc. Even in the losses she still sold a million ppv buys and sold out the buildings.

[@hughmungus8340]

@@willdallas53 Yes which is what the word relegated means, it means her worth is no longer what it once was. I'm sure people would watch to see if she could manage a comeback but nobody wants to see Nunes beat her up a second time when she barely defended herself the first, I'm not saying she was never a draw just that in the UFC landscape her drawing power has diminished, also to try and say she alone sold out those buildings on the two loss nights is like saying nobody showed up for anything else, it's dishonest and you know it, not saying she wasn't a huge draw but be real with yourself after the Holm loss nobody was betting on her to beat Nunes, Vegas gave her 15/1 a former champ getting odds that big in Vegas is basically them saying "guaranteed she loses make the odds big so people waste their money thinking big payout if she makes the comeback" I also was aware you were talking about her drawing power in the UFC, I stated that she also has more drawing power than both of those women in the WWE.

[@willdallas53]

@@hughmungus8340 are you special needs?

[@PrezidentHughes]

But what's wrong with the girls headlining? I don't get it. If the story and promotion of the story warrants it, what's the problem? Granted today's product is quite different and is hardly realistic, but if two women performed in a believable way, that should be fine to headline. The women's division shouldn't be secondary to the men's. I think Jim forgot that kayfabe died 15yrs ago and the art of' wrestling' died 20yrs ago. Even in the Attitude/Ruthless Eras, if women were promoted properly, Chyna/Lita/Molly/Ivory/Mickie/Jazz/Victoria/Gail and the like could've headlined Wrestlemania easily. But back then the women were always a side show. I could see Becky and Ronda headline a show. They just have to make the presentation look more snug like it did 20yrs ago.

[@nicholasfarrell8403]

Rousey was waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more over in the ufc world than banks and belair are in the wwe world

[@hughmungus8340]

Rousey was 90% hype but at the time people believed that bullshit so gonna have to agree.

[@jstun2318]

But why? Maybe it's because people knew she was beating up people for real not for a show.

[@hughmungus8340]

@@jstun2318 She was more over in the WWE too lol.

[@tafariali-alkebulan3325]

Jim this is a bad attempt at an apology, you're a wrestling historian so you should know that the old timers of the 50s-70s thought the product of our era was not "real wrestling" too. Kayfabe is dead, and that's for the better, that asterisk/stigma is gone, and that's good. Nobody believes in santa anymore but you still can enjoy xmas. We DONT need fans hopping over the barricades to stab fans because they still think its real. Your era is gone, but theres still much to enjoy and that includes the women, who are better than ever now and are earning the main events and wrestling is far more global now so "only 2 million fans are watching" is a misnomer, because of modern tech more people are watching worldwide and weekly between raw, smackdown, aew and nxt theres about 5 million fans watching per week, not to mention all the views like here on youtube (were pro wrestling gets more views than the major sports combined) and the wwe network, and that's not bad. As a 50 year old fan who's been watching since '79 i need you to know that It's not your lawn anymore, appreciate the new view now, nothing is the same as it was in 1986 anymore and that's not all bad, it's not "very dark" you're just old, embrace it, you'll enjoy it more, I have, I do.

[@stevenshewfelt888]

love the 1970's wall paneling

[@jesterr7133]

The person that sent this letter to Jim has no idea what they are talking about. Sasha is slightly over with a small segment of the audience. Bianca was barely even on TV until the Rumble. Saying that she is over is absolutely crazy. WWE wants her to be (and she should be), but WWE hasn't put in the effort to get her over.

[@shookththegreat]

Sasha is pretty over lol, especially with her being in the Mandalorian and everything.

[@Wyldout]

I like Banks and Bel Air as well but the two of them doesn't even come close to the star power Rousey has combined.

[@twanmack2686]

Neither any of the current men. Ronda's more of a household than Roman

[@Wyldout]

@@twanmack2686 true

[@KB-hh8rt]

@@twanmack2686 That's the sad current of affairs that the WWE is in. They don't have any star power anymore, everything is all about the WWE brand.

[@milorc3940]

I think that people like Brian acting as if Banks and Bel Air was Flair vs Steamboat is a chilling reminder to Jim that real wrestling is dead. The product has been dumbed down and sanitized and we’ve been reprogrammed to think that it’s good because the bar has been set so low.

[@richardstange5939]

Wrestlers doing shoot interviews on those old RF Video tapes exposed the business back in the 90’s.

[@fruitymypebbles4914]

The internet killed wrestling. It’ll never be what it once was. It’s sad just thinking about it.

[@jeffreym8503]

Vince killed wrestling the minute her started to expose the behind the scenes of the business

[@fnggaming89]

9:00-10:05....Jim still wants that old granny in the crowd trynna cut the wrestlers

[@fernandoguajardo2750]

Was that the same granny that was in Wcw Nitro trying to cut Hogan but ended up putting a curse with her hands on hogan?🤔

[@wayneyoutub]

Okay...So many levels to this... 1. Remember, Jim is old school...Meaning he still has the mentality of that 70's and 80's dude who wants to see something that looks like a good fight not just a "wrestling match". So he has a point there with the fact that a lot of these matches now a days look like dances then an actual fight. 2. If you hear what he is saying, he's not really bashing Banks, Belair or the Womens Division as a whole. He is basically bashing the Men's Division for allowing the Women to surpass them or get to the point where they would be in the Main Event of Mania. I think Jim feels they were given the Main Event of Mania because of how the company as a whole, isn't bulit around 1 person as it was with Hogan or Austin. Unlike back in the day, if you went to or watched Mania 3, it was for Hogan v Andre. Or Mania 17, Austin v Rock. To paraphrase..."You all are supposed to be Men. You were born bigger, faster and stronger. They couldn't put 60,000 in a stadium if it was just them and you Men can't perform or put on the type of matches that would force you to be in the Main Event without any questions asked?" Is how I think he feels. 3. With that said, with the current state of wrestling in his eyes, where Jim surprisingly missed this is from the booking side. If Drew McEntire wasn't going over against Bobby Lashley, than that match (Lashley v McEntire) didn't need to go on last. And since Roman was going over in night 2, you needed a feel good ending to Night 1 and that's what happened. So whether it was given to them or they earned or not. Banks and Belair needed to be the Main Event of night one because from a story aspect, it made the most sense. So Jim was given exactly what he wanted. Just not the exact way he wanted it.

[@thesupervisor3270]

Give the women their own show and we will see how “over” these ladies really are

[@michaelaction7031]

@Boo boo stained Dunn ta dunn If done right and they sexualize them just right that could be a solid draw

[@thesupervisor3270]

@michael action they not gonna do that, these women now smelling themselves too much. Sex sales that’s why these girls will never be over like Sable, Sunny or Chyna

[@-JAVY-]

I been said that. Give them their own 2 hr show. And it will get less viewers than NXT, and the virgin would complain that ppl r sexist

[@KB-hh8rt]

They've been given their own ppv's and buy rates were shit but yeah I agree they wouldn't be able to draw much. Their target audience would be the simps and SJW's but that's about it.

[@BWalker9313]

On a 2-night WM event during covid, I'm fine with them being the main event. But this match was not the main event, in a regular WM. They didn't build it up enough because wwe has so many titles that every single match was built up. So they technically had 4 main events. So this didn't get the attention that it should to be a main event, and the fact that they had to start doing hashtags to convince management to give them the main event. That's stupid. You're either the most important match or you're not.

[@1stKindChris]

The problem is.... even after he explained all of that..... he still equated women's wrestling to the lingerie football league lol.... women's football does exist....

[@deathmauler181]

Yep

[@the1LB]

He just doesn't get it

[@alexpayne5914]

"Oh they're sooo OVER"! Yeah ok. The comparison to Rousey is stupid. People who never saw an MMA fight in their lives knew who Rousey was. Ask a non wrestling fan who Bianca Belair is, they ask if that's the Fresh Prince's sister or something. "Over" with only the tiny hardcore audience doesn't mean anything.

[@xxxaragon]

of course that being said, "knowing who someone is" isn't the same as "willing to pay to see them" either.

[@Chaz4543]

If Vince was still in total control would he ever have a woman's match as the main even at Wrestlemania ? He didnt just wake up in his old age and get so progressive. This kinda proves Stephanie and Triple H call most of the shots.

[@slyfox2022]

Kinda? You gotta know for sure

[@Chaz4543]

@@slyfox2022 I watch the product on tv for the past 15 years and I see lots of things Vince wouldnt do when he was younger and more invested.

[@al5306]

@@Gorgutsforcongress Why? lol You don't know what's going on behind-the-scenes. Wrestling fans THINK they do because they read dirt sheets and watch shoot interviews and believe that that qualifies them to speak about what's good or not good for the company. Unless you work there yourself, you won't know how good or not good Stephanie is at her job. That said, we can apply that same logical thinking about Vince. No one knows if he would have been in favor of two women main eventing or not. All we can do is gossip like high schoolers about what we think or we could be grown adults and not worry about it.

[@inuenndo_]

@@Gorgutsforcongress you’re assuming she calls all the shots or you have some inside info?

[@KB-hh8rt]

Sounds like he's pandering to the SJWs and Peacock.

[@Colt2OO2]

I get his point on how wrestling is today, but when he said he longs for the days where the fans risk going to jail to help the babyfaces out, that proves my point in saying he's just stuck in the past. Yes that era of wrestling isn't coming back, but there's a little thing called moving on.

[@BeyondDaX]

Well that and compared to back then. People have more entertainment options where to the point that even conventional sports like football and baseball are but totally optional now

[@cthulhupthagn5771]

In some fashion, I don't disagree with you. But if I may, I think you're taking his comment a little too literally. When Jim refers to stuff like that, it's shorthand for referring to a time when people were so passionate and obsessed with the wrestling they were watching that they were willing to buy into the fiction enough to go to such lengths. Jim isn't advocating literally for return to that level of obsession and belief in kayfabe, he's just pointing out that the highest levels of passion these days don't even measure in the scale of what went on in times in the past. These days, when people get all worked up about this stuff, they're getting all worked up and passionate about the crazy garbage that they see like flips off the top rope and so on. Nobody shows that level of passion for a story or a character anymore. The best example I could give, was my grandmother. she passed away some years ago and was one of those fans that corny refers to. About a decade ago they had a story arc where John Cena was supposedly fired from the company and had to pay for a seat to sit in the audience. My grandmother was bending my ear about how horrible it was that they were treating him so poorly. I was laughing, and I said Grandma you know that this is all part of the story. And her response was yes I know, but, and then she went on at how horrible he was being treated. That is the joy of being a wrestling fan. In your head you can hold two contradictory facts at the same time. You can know that you're looking at a fabricated story and people playing a character, and then if the story is good and the passion is there you can get just as worked up that somebody is being unfairly treated by their evil boss.

[@BeyondDaX]

Fair but today's audiences are so jaded that such passions are all but extinct. The last vestiges that the 'passion' that Jim had remembered back then was with Soccer that's cause for a lot of places. There is but few things to get passionate about compared to america were you would sooner see people get passionate over some e-celeb than a babyface. Things change.

[@BeyondDaX]

@Aaron Lassiter Maybe but its like slowly becoming extinct. We are in a more disinterested age.