Jim Cornette on OVW's Valedictorian In The Class Of Cena, Batista, Orton, Lesnar & Benjamin

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From Episode 181 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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@PaxBisonica89
@PaxBisonica89 3 жыл бұрын
Cena - became the biggest star in wrestling after austin/rock and is now starring in big movies Lesnar - huge star in wrestling and huge star in combat sports Orton - one of the most naturally gifted wrestlers of the decade and bonafide hall of famer. Batista - multi time world champion and hall of famer who went on to star in the biggest movies ever made. Benjamin - insanely gifted athlete who's still performing at a high level today. This class will never ever be duplicated, no matter how much money you pump into the performance center.
@guardian7568
@guardian7568 3 жыл бұрын
What big movie Cena been in other than transformers
@joelflores7853
@joelflores7853 3 жыл бұрын
@@guardian7568 The Suicide Squad and Fast 9
@madhatter8508
@madhatter8508 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you mean chronologically after Austin/Rock, because he ain't bigger than Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, or Dusty Rhodes.
@tafariali-alkebulan3325
@tafariali-alkebulan3325 3 жыл бұрын
@@madhatter8508 Cena is a bigger star than Dusty
@vb2806
@vb2806 3 жыл бұрын
@@madhatter8508 Dusty? Cena is pretty above him a
@joeyzapata6786
@joeyzapata6786 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Cornette doesn't get enough credit for OVW.
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 3 жыл бұрын
@HolyNobody thanks Brock's father for his choice of wife
@ashtonhaggitt216
@ashtonhaggitt216 3 жыл бұрын
@Holy lol dude was self taught (as far as mathematics and theoretical mathematics goes) but your point still stands. Just a bad example; And as for wrestling goes, it's a whole different ball game. A promotion can have great talent but die due to lack of funding, advertisement, booking etc. Cornette definitely deserves his attaboys for OVW
@Charzhino
@Charzhino 3 жыл бұрын
@Holy "If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants" - Sir Isaac Newton
@shindean
@shindean 3 жыл бұрын
@Holy Who doesn't give credit to teachers for raising children as well as educating them? If you think it's easy teaching elementary students how to learn, get your ass off the coach and see how easy development teaching really is.
@shindean
@shindean 3 жыл бұрын
For one, promoters always want to get all the credit for any talent. Vince wants the credit for Hogan, Austin, Rock, Cena, Roman Reigns, etc., so that you always associate them with WWE. And second, Jim isn't some desperate convention personality that has to remind people about the talent he trained and taught. Especially since the talent took him for granted anyway (when has Cena ever mentioned Jim? That's a pretty large omittance). It's about time Jim gets his time to shine to his fans, and we're just grateful that he can share the stories along the way.
@BuffdatRatt
@BuffdatRatt 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for including Benjamin.
@savagelogic8674
@savagelogic8674 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bale4Bond STOP
@jenisia3600
@jenisia3600 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@edophoneix1340
@edophoneix1340 3 жыл бұрын
Np bro, he is one of my favourites for sure.
@martyc909
@martyc909 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, all of them used their real name. lol. Batista just altered the spelling of his name. lol
@justafanofnerdculture7602
@justafanofnerdculture7602 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bale4Bond 😁🤜
@samuraijack0876
@samuraijack0876 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy to think that Brock Lesnar went from wrestling at OVW for $750/week in 2002 to the main event of WrestleMania in 2003. Talk about strapping the rocket.
@alexiscardoso778
@alexiscardoso778 3 жыл бұрын
And beat THE ROCK for his first taste of gold!
@MilMaska
@MilMaska 3 жыл бұрын
"John Laurinaitis knew not to take my calls on Wednesdays" - Jim Cornette
@scorptarget
@scorptarget 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@edophoneix1340
@edophoneix1340 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy Brian asked my question, this made my day.
@Getwright-
@Getwright- 3 жыл бұрын
Benjamin is one of the most underrated wrestlers working in the last 15 years. He should’ve been the champ many times by now.
@fabiooliveira7103
@fabiooliveira7103 3 жыл бұрын
Shelton was amazing in the ring but no mic skills. that is what people say about him. my answer is always give him a manager that can talk for him, it worked for Brock.
@fabiooliveira7103
@fabiooliveira7103 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bale4Bond seeing the guys in 2021, 2005 Shelton would be champion for sure.
@kamfisher1714
@kamfisher1714 3 жыл бұрын
He wasn’t that good
@AJ-xv7oh
@AJ-xv7oh 3 жыл бұрын
No he really should not. What is it with you people? Just because he can 'work' does not mean he should be the world champion! Benjamin has no mainstream charisma and made it as far as he should have.
@vmartin96
@vmartin96 3 жыл бұрын
Especially after the match with Michaels
@0maxk_
@0maxk_ 3 жыл бұрын
Its always super interesting listening to Jim talk about OVW
@Yellowrose71
@Yellowrose71 3 жыл бұрын
Brock doesn’t like associating with humans!🤣🤣🤣 Love it. That’s Lesnar in a nutshell. However, can’t blame him....
@fox9769
@fox9769 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy. 4 of those guys are popular and known even by people who don't watch wrestling. Cena and Batista are big hollywood movie stars now. Brock Lesnar is a multisport athlete and one of the most popular fighters. Randy Orton has been a WWE main eventer for almost two decades now and is still competing at a high level that anybody who's watched even a bit of wrestling the last two decade know him. And Benjamin is just underrated and talented.
@christiankarlkarganilla2763
@christiankarlkarganilla2763 10 ай бұрын
Idk about Orton being well-known outside of pro wrestling. But he is one of the most popular active wrestlers to this day. Even if you hadn't watch watched wrestling in like 15 years, you would know Orton is a wrestler.
@662chillin
@662chillin 3 жыл бұрын
Benjamin is the BEST pure wrestler of the group but Cena has accomplished the most That was a GREAT class
@skippythealien9627
@skippythealien9627 Жыл бұрын
i think Rico gets overlooked too. The guy had a very brief run unfortunately, but he was an incredible athlete
@PS-oo9of
@PS-oo9of 3 жыл бұрын
Jim sounded so caught off guard by this question
@shindean
@shindean 3 жыл бұрын
Because he's not so much interested in the individual wrestler as he is about what they accomplished for the business. Cena burying a whole locker room of talent is not helpful. Brock not wrestling or putting anyone over except himself is not helpful. Shelton Benjamin keeping himself in top shape so that a whole generation of talent can be pushed to learn and put on great shows, that is helpful.
@kstone198
@kstone198 3 жыл бұрын
@@shindean Be realistic dude. Nobody but a select few on that roster is touching Brock Lesnar. That's like saying Ricochet should of beat brock. Come on dawg this ain't fairytale movies. Not even a Brock fan but only ppl really coming close to brock is Lashley and Braun and let's be honest only wrestler I think that actually stands a chance is Lashley given is Mma background also.
@shindean
@shindean 3 жыл бұрын
@@kstone198 Eddie Guerrero beat him, Goldberg beat him. Be realistic and go watch MMA, but I'm here for pro-wrestling...or did you get lost on your way here?
@edophoneix1340
@edophoneix1340 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I stumped cornette for once...lol
@welowee7610
@welowee7610 3 жыл бұрын
@shindean: Eddie is special, don’t compare him to someone like Ricochet lmao
@coreylee9342
@coreylee9342 Жыл бұрын
WWE needs to induct the OVW class of 2002 into the WWE hall of fame together. The go out as they came in, Together.
@85futureshock
@85futureshock 3 жыл бұрын
Jim Cornette helped develop both the new WWE Champ Bobby Lashey and Shelton Benjamin, who are in main event spots currently, in OVW. This might seem like a controversial opinion but Jim Cornette is possibly one of the 10 most important figures in WWE history for saving the company due to how much great talent he developed that carried the company in the post Rock/Austin era.
@RandalfElVikingo
@RandalfElVikingo 3 жыл бұрын
Not controversial because he did something similar but on a smaller scale with SMW. But he did not saved the company, he just made it survive for another decade.
@madhatter8508
@madhatter8508 3 жыл бұрын
The only people who would find that opinion controversial are the fucking skidmark AEW fans who want to erase the legacy of wrestling figures they don't like.
@jenisia3600
@jenisia3600 3 жыл бұрын
BUt BuT hE HaTeS mOdErN WrEsTliNg! But in all seriousness that aint controversial, that's the truth.
@TheSportsfan35
@TheSportsfan35 3 жыл бұрын
@@jenisia3600 & it's easy to see WHY he hates the current presentation of the business. The promos done by today's talent suck & there's clearly no emphasis on heels & babyfaces anymore which makes the booking illogical & not making any sense compared to back during the territory days.
@terryo3512
@terryo3512 3 жыл бұрын
Y'all wrong for Drawing Batista like that🤣🤣
@abcsin6526
@abcsin6526 3 жыл бұрын
It's look like mix of randy and batista!!😂
@joshuaDstarks
@joshuaDstarks 3 жыл бұрын
He could have been in a hoody, shivering in the corner, not learning anything.
@x2bannedyoutubeaccount408
@x2bannedyoutubeaccount408 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaDstarks that’s been used like twice already
@sayshazamm3112
@sayshazamm3112 3 жыл бұрын
Boobtista
@ICHIBAN-cz8ih
@ICHIBAN-cz8ih 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaDstarks "Afa taught him how to write a cheque"
@titansrule72
@titansrule72 3 жыл бұрын
All 5 of those guys were cannot miss. The only ding on Lesnar and Benjamin was their promo skills. I'd give them all a 5 star prospect rating though.
@JrKdM
@JrKdM 2 жыл бұрын
i feel like the promo skills can be fixed by having guys like paul heyman and other great talkers as managers.
@Cream-2128
@Cream-2128 2 жыл бұрын
Batista had zero promo skills as well
@titansrule72
@titansrule72 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cream-2128 maybe at the time, but he sure fixed that later on.
@JrKdM
@JrKdM Жыл бұрын
​@@Cream-2128 2010 heeltista proved that criticism wrong especially his newer work.
@alandrak3227
@alandrak3227 2 жыл бұрын
Benjamin was red hot in late 04 and early 05,really enjoy his IC title reign and i remember seeing the bracket for the tournament and getting excited seeing him vs Michaels.awesome match
@WingsofHistory
@WingsofHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Batista is insanely underrated, I remember when I was a kid when he was bigger than all the aforementioned.
@dirtmcgirt8269
@dirtmcgirt8269 3 жыл бұрын
@Holy How is he overrated? Was a huge fkn star, had great matches w/ Eddie, Finlay, Cena, 'Taker (who is overrated imo), H man, Kane, etc.
@rickytpb2164
@rickytpb2164 3 жыл бұрын
Is anybody rating him? Anyways he's doing great now. He's in Hollywood and out of the hellhole of WWE.
@jasonv6319
@jasonv6319 3 жыл бұрын
@UCiFNOTueS7rIAx5sxWW76Kg Overrated????? Name one big who can move with that size..
@jasonv6319
@jasonv6319 3 жыл бұрын
@UCiFNOTueS7rIAx5sxWW76Kg if you say lashley brock your just proving my point cause those are Rare specimens
@Sideshowbob97
@Sideshowbob97 3 жыл бұрын
@@rickytpb2164 that's the point fans never appreciated him
@gdarippa69
@gdarippa69 3 жыл бұрын
Someone please tell Jim about Randy Orton vs Soulja Boy feud that’s going on right now 😂
@socialistbatman1211
@socialistbatman1211 2 жыл бұрын
Still can’t believe Cena was on the verge of being released all because he was never given the chance to get on a mic and just talk.
@jayglenn82
@jayglenn82 2 жыл бұрын
Because he was a piece of garbage in the ring
@CactusInsane
@CactusInsane 3 жыл бұрын
Jim Cornette created the Ruthless Agression main event stars
@CrazyStevo
@CrazyStevo 3 жыл бұрын
Facts 💯🎯
@RobertoTheOriginalManFromTheA
@RobertoTheOriginalManFromTheA 3 жыл бұрын
I thought about this group of guys watching early cena and Batista matches..And thinking that wwe just haven't had a class like this since..As far as ACHIEVEMENTS.
@speranza9415
@speranza9415 3 жыл бұрын
You say it as if "achievements" is the only worthy thing in this class
@generallordjowbra8871
@generallordjowbra8871 3 жыл бұрын
That class was the best at everything.
@realninjaent544
@realninjaent544 3 жыл бұрын
Ovw has proved that new student wrestlers should come through somebody like Jim cornette before reaching wwe. Apparently, all these success stories from the ruthless aggression era never really been in the Indies and their arguably better than all the Indy darlings and are more successful in every way.
@dquanissavage6287
@dquanissavage6287 3 жыл бұрын
This Class Was Truly Legendary Man!!🙌🙏🙏
@dirtmcgirt8269
@dirtmcgirt8269 3 жыл бұрын
What a god damn class. Let me know when NXT puts 5 guys like that on the main roster instead of storing guys in a warehouse down at Full Sail and teaching them where the hard cam is. And there woulda been 1 more too. The Haas bro's.
@dirtmcgirt8269
@dirtmcgirt8269 3 жыл бұрын
@Golden Iolaire I'll give ya the Horsewomen. But still none on the level of a Cena, Brock, or Batista. Becky was close tho & getting there. Bianca's got a ton of potential.
@SugarRayTaylor
@SugarRayTaylor 3 жыл бұрын
@Golden Iolaire none of them have drawn even half the amount of money that guys like Cena, Brock, Batista or Orton have. Several of those were also well travelled mechanics before they got to NXT. Whereas OVW got Brock, Orton and Cena pretty much from scratch. Yes I'm aware of Cena's days in UPW (or whatever Rick Bassman's operation was called), however you can't compare that school to the New Japan Dojo where Balor came out of.
@wh5601
@wh5601 3 жыл бұрын
Impossible in the current day tbh. Even if an NXT guy came along with that sort of potential, they’d be screwed by WWE creative. I get that it’s partly on them to have enough charisma to get over but I just don’t think it’s possible to do that to the same extent as one of those 5 when you’re so closely managed and sanitised by people behind the scenes
@dirtmcgirt8269
@dirtmcgirt8269 3 жыл бұрын
@@wh5601 Fair point. I also think WWE wants the brand itself to be the star. Vince probably got tired of all his top guys leaving him for Hollywood & what not, but u cant blame those guys either. Falling down for a living and getting hit in the head would wear on anyone.
@JungleBunkRootsMusic2022
@JungleBunkRootsMusic2022 3 жыл бұрын
@@dirtmcgirt8269 Dont be surprised if Vince tries to bury sasha banks after wrestlemania as punishment for her starring in the mandalorian. He cant stand it when one of his wrestlers gets bigger than the company.
@rickytpb2164
@rickytpb2164 3 жыл бұрын
If Shelton Benjamin had mic skills, he could've been one of the biggest stars ever.
@dirtmcgirt8269
@dirtmcgirt8269 3 жыл бұрын
Love ur pfp. Completely agree. Him & Umaga are 2 of my favorite wrestlers from that era & in general.
@ErikTenHaagenDazs
@ErikTenHaagenDazs 3 жыл бұрын
Lol keep thinking that!
@fabiooliveira7103
@fabiooliveira7103 3 жыл бұрын
do you think so?? Vince would never push him like a Cena, Orton or Batista because of his color.
@rickytpb2164
@rickytpb2164 3 жыл бұрын
@@fabiooliveira7103 why not? He pushed The Rock.
@davidcyr5327
@davidcyr5327 3 жыл бұрын
@@fabiooliveira7103 ok Twinkle Toes McFinger Bang
@ericvelasquez473
@ericvelasquez473 3 жыл бұрын
I like that on the board it says I will listen to Jim Cornette. If more people listen to uncle Jim in general the world would be a better place.
@SSJ8605
@SSJ8605 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best wrestling class ever.
@JeremiahLegacy
@JeremiahLegacy Жыл бұрын
Fr
@jjbjjb273
@jjbjjb273 3 жыл бұрын
2002 was the last good year for the wwe. Everything after has been a decline from the highs of the monday night wars
@kamfisher1714
@kamfisher1714 3 жыл бұрын
Not reallty, there’s been plenty of good years after 2002.
@ichneumon2776
@ichneumon2776 3 жыл бұрын
The last really great year was 2005, Angle, Benoit, Eddie, Edge, Cena, RVD, JBL, Randy, Batista, Finlay, Rey, Chavo, Triple H, Shawn, Flair, Kane, Booker T, Jericho, Lashley - Thats the Top Mid to Upper Card talent that they had. And all of them were over or getting over. The last good year was 2014 when streak was still there, CM Punk was there and Bryan became a wrestling phenomenon.
@sayshazamm3112
@sayshazamm3112 3 жыл бұрын
When HHH becomes the CEO of WWE it's gonna be good again
@socialistbatman1211
@socialistbatman1211 2 жыл бұрын
There have definitely been some good years in the 2000s and moments in the 2010s. Just say none of it was for you bud
@jeffreylenoir1513
@jeffreylenoir1513 3 жыл бұрын
You got give Brock credit . Never did anything stupid or silly . Came in did his job and left. Simple
@ValiantWrestling
@ValiantWrestling 3 жыл бұрын
Never did anything stupid? The shooting star press botch at WrestleMania XIX... ring any bells.
@hermonymusofsparta
@hermonymusofsparta 3 жыл бұрын
@@ValiantWrestling That's not what he means by stupid. He means a stupid or silly gimmick. Brock could actually do that and he did it in OVW. He just messed up at WrestleMania because Kurt was too far away
@BenJohnson0531
@BenJohnson0531 3 жыл бұрын
@@ValiantWrestling it was his finisher the entire time he was in OVW. Sometimes mistakes happen.
@matthewrock4725
@matthewrock4725 3 жыл бұрын
@@hermonymusofsparta that and I believe he had about 15 or 20 more pounds at that point having not done the shooting star press for a while.
@DarkNorthEmperor
@DarkNorthEmperor 3 жыл бұрын
Remembers Brock with a Mariachi Band. 😂
@Sideshowbob97
@Sideshowbob97 3 жыл бұрын
I get Jim Hates batista personally because of what batista said in his book but you have to acknowledge his success
@emperortrevornorton3119
@emperortrevornorton3119 3 жыл бұрын
I give 5 way tie with John, Batista, Shelton, Brock, and Randy but would have John Cena and Batista are about equal today but John got the better gimmick first that is why I am not sure that he really hates Batista
@nathanburgess6455
@nathanburgess6455 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly think, hes still slightly overrated
@Loolakool
@Loolakool 3 жыл бұрын
@@emperortrevornorton3119 I truthfully don’t think you can put them on the same level(in terms of wrestling) Cena is one of the few stars to have a massive reign of terror for better or for worst. Brock and Cena are the only ones are that are comparable in my eyes. With randy creeping in as a distant but persistent third.
@thandolwethuthabethe4583
@thandolwethuthabethe4583 3 жыл бұрын
@@nathanburgess6455 but he was so over on smackdown. Remember when Teddy Long would introduce him...
@itachi-kun7736
@itachi-kun7736 3 жыл бұрын
@@nathanburgess6455 maybe because of his rusty mic skills but Batista's full time run in Wwe was underrated
@MacStoker
@MacStoker 3 жыл бұрын
whomever found all that talent deserves the award...
@ADAMdinho1
@ADAMdinho1 3 жыл бұрын
Jim Ross among others but that's all rewrote now as JR is heavily discredited he had more to do with talent from late nineties onwards than anyone in terms of recruitment, scouting etc. Plus then Jim Cornette trained them in OVW.
@D1Fring
@D1Fring 3 жыл бұрын
So basically... 1. Cena/Benjamín 2. Cena/Benjamin 3. Orton 4. Lesnar 5. Batista
@tonymatrisin4328
@tonymatrisin4328 3 жыл бұрын
Wanna hear Jim's thoughts on Lashley beat old frog face n NXT new signings
@TheMan750
@TheMan750 3 жыл бұрын
Patience
@tundraboy6498
@tundraboy6498 3 жыл бұрын
What signings
@ashleyquintanar727
@ashleyquintanar727 Жыл бұрын
More of this please
@Vsvstubbs
@Vsvstubbs 3 жыл бұрын
Shelton Benjamin is the most under-rated wrestler in WWF history
@glennrugar9248
@glennrugar9248 3 жыл бұрын
As soon as brian read Shelton I knew it would be the first one jim went to
@willcapps3168
@willcapps3168 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing batista and lesnar in a dark match at a show in nashville we were omg look at these fn giants
@valitsemllaluokanavahyvaks3556
@valitsemllaluokanavahyvaks3556 3 жыл бұрын
1. Cena 2. Lesnar 3. Orton 4. Batista 5. Benjamin in terms of success in the wrestling business.
@buntyskb
@buntyskb 2 жыл бұрын
Lesnar is now bigger than Cena
@socialistbatman1211
@socialistbatman1211 2 жыл бұрын
@@buntyskb you think so? Cena became a celebrity figure while wrestling and is even bigger now. And unlike the Rock and Batista, he’s in Hollywood but people still know him as the biggest wrestling star from their childhoods.
@dquanissavage6287
@dquanissavage6287 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Shoot Today Jim!!😎🐐🐐
@onemike909
@onemike909 6 ай бұрын
I hope that I get to meet Shelton Benjamin someday. He really sounds like a great guy on top of bringing a great wrestler.
@DarkNorthEmperor
@DarkNorthEmperor 3 жыл бұрын
Orton and Shelton Benjamin are the last two who still compete full time. It'd be a sad day when they retire.
@gusbaker4u
@gusbaker4u 3 жыл бұрын
"Welcome to the main roster, Brock...we've got just the spot for you, you're going to be Zorboz the alien warlord, it's great shit pal!"
@Marc_Masters
@Marc_Masters Жыл бұрын
Thumbnail is hilarious 😂
@williamflowers9435
@williamflowers9435 3 жыл бұрын
Brock was a Division I NCAA Champion. You can’t say he didn’t work hard.
@badblood18
@badblood18 Жыл бұрын
He meant wrestling wise. Brock is a hell of a competitor when he has the will and the goal, else he does not care. He said it in an autobiography.
@jessycruz2465
@jessycruz2465 3 жыл бұрын
Tbf brock can actually wrestle but sadly he just stopped caring.
@CJBrowninLV
@CJBrowninLV 3 жыл бұрын
OVW , give Corny the credit he deserves , because he did so much on a shit budget (imagine what could have been accomplished if OVW had NXT's 💵!).
@yusufgazi7
@yusufgazi7 Жыл бұрын
Cornette needs more credit for OVW
@Gothamnameless
@Gothamnameless 3 жыл бұрын
You also forgot cm punk. Sean O'Haire. Rene Dupree. Rob Conway. So many great creations in ovw that gets no tie to Davis arena
@FreshPrincex4
@FreshPrincex4 2 жыл бұрын
He's talking about the class of '02
@Gothamnameless
@Gothamnameless 2 жыл бұрын
If piper would of been with Rene and Batista and O'Hair was in the tag division. Just imagine how transitional your champs would of been instead of just cherry picking what punk calls yes men
@TheBorwig
@TheBorwig 3 жыл бұрын
What a great question
@edophoneix1340
@edophoneix1340 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro, i think this is my 5th time writing in, I am glad he answered this one.
@Burger-urger
@Burger-urger 3 жыл бұрын
Brock can work dude. Brock can also sell his ass off he just never does anymore. He may not give his all to it but dude can go and really can sell even.
@leaespejo9776
@leaespejo9776 3 жыл бұрын
Howdy friends
@jamirimaj6880
@jamirimaj6880 3 жыл бұрын
of course the valedictorian had the most underwhelming career while the other 4 became huge stars, of course
@OSCARESCAPA
@OSCARESCAPA 11 ай бұрын
Interesting
@deadman23px
@deadman23px 3 жыл бұрын
When is Corny talking about Steve Bradley, one of the most underrated on WWF's developmental system during that era?
@jeffmac9642
@jeffmac9642 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know who Big show said signed to AEW ? Brock ? Batista? Bully Ray? Cornette maybe ?????? 🤔
@edophoneix1340
@edophoneix1340 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to finding that out alot on sunday. Also I can't wait for the exploding barbwire death match especially since I am a huge fan of fire pro wrestling returns...lol
@kindyrpenumbra7170
@kindyrpenumbra7170 10 ай бұрын
I have always wondered if the differences in rings between OVW and WWE had something to do with Brock missing the shooting star press on Angle. Seems like cables would give a much better foundation for that move.
@Janthdanl
@Janthdanl 10 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly Brock said it was because of how much him and Kurt were sweating the ropes were slicker than normal and he couldn’t get a good enough “grip” with his feet. Though you may be right about the differences in rope material that’s a great call
@festo512
@festo512 10 ай бұрын
​@@JanthdanlHad nothing to do with brock being tires or sweat. Brock made the mistake of having angle too far out.
@robaxl3088
@robaxl3088 3 жыл бұрын
I wish Jim Cornette would respond to one of my comments and roast me with something good lol.. *Please Jim!! Please roast me! I’m a huge fan and if you do then I can scratch it off my bucket list and die a happy man & fan.*
@edophoneix1340
@edophoneix1340 3 жыл бұрын
Bro he is doing cameo. If you can afford it at $150 you can get him cut a promo on you if you want.
@robaxl3088
@robaxl3088 3 жыл бұрын
@@edophoneix1340 ya I know..and I wish I had an extra $150 bucks because it would be worth it lol.
@edophoneix1340
@edophoneix1340 3 жыл бұрын
@@robaxl3088 I am not sure if Jeff hardy does them but i would have loved to get one for my brother whose birthday is on sunday but I can't afford it. Maybe next year bro.
@robaxl3088
@robaxl3088 3 жыл бұрын
@@edophoneix1340 I have a question tho if I was to come up with the money who do I contact or what steps do I take to get one?..my wife’s taxes are almost in and it’s going to be my birthday soon so that would be a sweet gift for myself.
@edophoneix1340
@edophoneix1340 3 жыл бұрын
@@robaxl3088 I think you have to create an account on cameo and then you can pay them directly.
@arturoalmazan5262
@arturoalmazan5262 3 жыл бұрын
Brock was and still is the kick ass machine that wwe created, Batista was solid. his feuds vs Taker and Triple h were great but then he was ; sent to feud with mid card level guys like Booker t which wasnt bad . Orton became a pompous asshole which the only reason he became popular was due to his dad. let's face it. Cena I believe was the most important of that class. I never liked his matches but i gotta give credit . as for Shelton Benjamin he should have won a major title a long time ago. hes so underrated still
@starshipfame1
@starshipfame1 3 жыл бұрын
Shelton should have been higher on the midcard. I can see the excuse of him not being a main event but he should have been handled better. The fact that they gave him the “Koko B. Ware” gimmick and the “dusty rhodes “ black ghetto mama gimmick was beyond disgusting. Even when he did the “gold standard” gimmick... it should have been taken more seriously and he should have been given a manager. They didn’t know what to do with him and it showed
@FootyThinker
@FootyThinker 3 жыл бұрын
Edo Phoenix = Aster Phoenix from Yugioh GX. Haha.
@edophoneix1340
@edophoneix1340 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. I included my real name at the bottom but Brian read my google account name, but its cool. Aster and the destiny heroes were always my favourite...lol
@FootyThinker
@FootyThinker 3 жыл бұрын
@@edophoneix1340 Cool. I loved Yugioh. I pretty much loved watching it when I was younger after school and in the morning.
@edophoneix1340
@edophoneix1340 3 жыл бұрын
@@FootyThinker Same here bro. Nothing beat yu-gi-oh and Dragon ball z as a kid
@dgenerate707
@dgenerate707 3 жыл бұрын
Who are we kidding they all were top tier but Batista and Brock were the two number ones out of the group
@Timmyk5150
@Timmyk5150 3 жыл бұрын
Sean O'Haire was possibly the biggest failure/dropout in OVW history. He had the body and the physical tools but that was about it. Couldn't cut a promo nor could he learn psychology from working on Smackdown for chrissakes. When WCW closed, he should've went all in on MMA, better yet he should've went all in on ufc from the get go and screw wrestling.
@aboriginalson
@aboriginalson 3 жыл бұрын
I thought his devil's advocate gimmick was great. They dropped it too early and sent him to be managed by Piper which didn't help.
@josephcostello695
@josephcostello695 2 жыл бұрын
Still think James E Cornette for WWE Hall Of Fame. Don't know if that's in Vincent's mind set. Sad Corny does belong.
@jja7038
@jja7038 2 жыл бұрын
Why wasn’t Rico included?????
@marathiboi96
@marathiboi96 Жыл бұрын
Shelton should've been bigger star but then again, not everyone in the class can reach to top but still pretty successful
@Dakatari
@Dakatari 3 жыл бұрын
No doubt Cena was the overall fan favorite Brock biggest money drawer Shelton the most athletic Batista biggest one hit wonder
@vladdascalescu
@vladdascalescu Ай бұрын
Best wrestling class ever and it's not even close... Never again will happen.
@ArtVandaleytv
@ArtVandaleytv 3 жыл бұрын
Shelton was a great wrestler but didn't have much of a personality. He was pushed but didn't have any skills on the mic to be a main eventer.
@jms7265
@jms7265 3 жыл бұрын
Just like Brock Lesnar and Chris Benoit.
@ArtVandaleytv
@ArtVandaleytv 3 жыл бұрын
@@jms7265 Lesnar and Benoit both had personalities despite not being good on the mic.
@jms7265
@jms7265 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtVandaleytv Shelton has more of a personality than both of them. You must be swayed by how much they win and in consequence the aura built around them rather than their actual personalities. Shelton has been way more colorful and expressive than those 2. I mean stevie wonder could see that👨‍🏫
@jetblack81
@jetblack81 3 жыл бұрын
They F'd uo Damaja and Rico. They were the main guys down there.
@t.c.8299
@t.c.8299 3 жыл бұрын
Yessssss sirrrrrr!
@sohailalamkhel9220
@sohailalamkhel9220 3 жыл бұрын
They fucked with Benjamin too much. He peaked at Raw 2004. Then he got beat my HHH and the rest is history.
@peytonlong5573
@peytonlong5573 3 жыл бұрын
Cena Orton Brock Shelton Batista Skill wise Shelton Brock Orton cena Batista
@fernandoguajardo2750
@fernandoguajardo2750 3 жыл бұрын
Where's The Boogeyman in the Thumbnail.
@JR95
@JR95 3 жыл бұрын
He wasn't part of the class of 2002. He didn't join OVW til a couple of years later.
@qkomodo9098
@qkomodo9098 3 жыл бұрын
What about Rene Dupree & Rico?
@vladdascalescu
@vladdascalescu Жыл бұрын
Greatest class that wrestling ever produce, star-power wise... Never again will happen.
@JSOUS2001
@JSOUS2001 3 жыл бұрын
Brock didnt put 100s of hours of hard work into his body?? Lol
@JSOUS2001
@JSOUS2001 3 жыл бұрын
But I understand what he's trying to say with his promo capabilities
@jaxonjaxoff3291
@jaxonjaxoff3291 5 ай бұрын
DONT FORGET VICTORIA!
@curtisb1445
@curtisb1445 3 жыл бұрын
Shelton most talent but john cena biggest star and randy orton second best.
@johndoe-fq7ez
@johndoe-fq7ez 3 жыл бұрын
is there a more legendary class than this, jesus
@TNLable
@TNLable 3 жыл бұрын
Is Bobby Lashley is not included on Cornette class of OVW
@travisheckel3788
@travisheckel3788 3 жыл бұрын
He actually wasn’t in that class. This was a couple of years before he was on OVW
@edophoneix1340
@edophoneix1340 3 жыл бұрын
He came in a few years later so I never include him.
@heelturnsface
@heelturnsface 3 жыл бұрын
I was saying Bootista...
@Free_Top_G_Tate
@Free_Top_G_Tate 3 жыл бұрын
Shelton benjamin is boring. Just a generic guy with no cool gimmick. Batista didnt have any cool gimmick but still succeed because he looked like a comic book character. My advise for wrestlers is that if they dont look like superheroes. Do your best to find the coolest gimmick ever.
@Free_Top_G_Tate
@Free_Top_G_Tate 3 жыл бұрын
@Brad 2021 shelton benjamin is, was, and always will be boring.
@FreshPrincex4
@FreshPrincex4 2 жыл бұрын
@@Free_Top_G_Tate that's what managers are for It worked for brock Shelton had the looks
@xavierwilliams2228
@xavierwilliams2228 3 жыл бұрын
Did anyone see brodie lees son standing in the middle of the entrance way on Dynamite as all the wrestlers fought in the ring. I was dying with laughter 🤣🤣🤣 .Aew is clown shit.
@jstinson7072
@jstinson7072 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@ChristopherMorningstar-t5u
@ChristopherMorningstar-t5u 3 жыл бұрын
Bautista/DraxTheDestroyer
@despicablemonster
@despicablemonster 3 жыл бұрын
jim- A.p thuganomics teacher
@mitchellalexander9162
@mitchellalexander9162 3 жыл бұрын
Moral of the Story: This all 'Creative Team' WWE's Fault for Killing Wrestling
@anti-famous3033
@anti-famous3033 3 жыл бұрын
What they did to poor Rico lol 😂
@donaldneumeister9538
@donaldneumeister9538 3 жыл бұрын
Lesnar screwed himself by thinking he was better than everyone else..he didnt like to train,,,he didnt like putting anyone over...he is garbage
@stashallemagne4488
@stashallemagne4488 3 жыл бұрын
wwe has failed to make their own talent for a long time and they have been mass hiring so much. i dont even if wwe just wants to pay a few guys ot something just for the hell of it
@JMFSpike
@JMFSpike 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't ruin Dinsmore. The Eugene character was extremely popular. It's his drug issues that ruined him.
@matthewrock4725
@matthewrock4725 3 жыл бұрын
As much as everyone yells about that gimmick these days having been in high school during that time that gimmick was absurdly, absurdly over.
@LordChrome375
@LordChrome375 3 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting that as well as Cena did in WWE in movies he’s lack luster. He’s probably the worst one off by going into movies. Because aside from Transformers, what good series has he been in? Can’t count Furious 9 or Suicide Squad cuz they ain’t out yet. Batista is the second best when it comes from wrestling to movies. Only behind the rock unless there is another person I am forgetting
@FreshPrincex4
@FreshPrincex4 2 жыл бұрын
Suicide squad he did great in as well as his peacemaker show.
@Tim85-y2q
@Tim85-y2q 3 жыл бұрын
I'm no fan of Cena, but I don't see how he doesn't win this since he became the biggest star in the business and was "the guy" in the WWE for longer than anyone except Bruno.
@ShawnMega
@ShawnMega 3 жыл бұрын
That because Brock left and became the biggest star in mma Plus he ended Taker Mania streak
@Tim85-y2q
@Tim85-y2q 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShawnMega I don't think Brock would have surpassed Cena if he stayed and "biggest star in MMA" is probably a debatable statement (though you could certainly argue he was for a brief period).
@Thebestoutthere
@Thebestoutthere 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tim85-y2q facts. Brock won’t be as big as cena in the wwe if he never went to ufc.
@ShawnMega
@ShawnMega 3 жыл бұрын
@MemphoWrasslin1 ????
@ShawnMega
@ShawnMega 3 жыл бұрын
@MemphoWrasslin1 I edit the post to add the taker comment. Didn't know youtube had the grammar police. Excuse me if I don't give a fuck about grammar on a youtube post. Sincerely, get a life
@fraserking4747
@fraserking4747 3 жыл бұрын
Edo Phoenix? Is that a fuckin YuGiOh GX reference making onto the Drive Thru? Cross-over of the century!
@Ratmann8436
@Ratmann8436 3 жыл бұрын
I don't agree that Dinsmore was ruined. His Eugene character was over.
@ChristopherJames1993
@ChristopherJames1993 3 жыл бұрын
How did Brock Lesnar, a former amateur wrestler, not like wrestling.
@scorpionzen
@scorpionzen 3 жыл бұрын
He hates interaction with fans
@AJ-xv7oh
@AJ-xv7oh 3 жыл бұрын
Big difference between amateur wrestling and professional wrestling.
@joselandin1203
@joselandin1203 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not that he hates it because he has taken pictures with fans and but he doesn’t like doing anything signing events
@mikekling5880
@mikekling5880 3 жыл бұрын
Cena was the teacher's pet.
@davidcyr5327
@davidcyr5327 3 жыл бұрын
Ok Jelly Nutella
@kingston4313
@kingston4313 3 жыл бұрын
And it served him well.
@CreightonChaney-io4xv
@CreightonChaney-io4xv 3 жыл бұрын
Just like in WWE Ask CM Punk
@kamfisher1714
@kamfisher1714 3 жыл бұрын
You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about. He wanted to learn and improve.
@Youtubechannelings
@Youtubechannelings 3 жыл бұрын
He said Shelton was the best student. Pay attention.
@MPK112233
@MPK112233 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to watch Jim backstage during a lot of those OVW shows.
@yusufgazi7
@yusufgazi7 Жыл бұрын
He was the commentator
@MPK112233
@MPK112233 Жыл бұрын
@@yusufgazi7 whelp lol
@yusufgazi7
@yusufgazi7 Жыл бұрын
@@MPK112233 lol
@carloslozada470
@carloslozada470 3 жыл бұрын
Brock rules the world
@chriscock6584
@chriscock6584 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not that impressed with most of those wrestlers.
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