Jim Cornette on Why Randy Savage Never Returned To WWE

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4 жыл бұрын

From Episode 113 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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@WhatAboutThemApples
@WhatAboutThemApples 4 жыл бұрын
A bigger Macho Man question for me is why did the WWF use him as a commentator when he was still over and they were seriously lacking talent.
@revans100591
@revans100591 4 жыл бұрын
Vince felt that guys like Randy were past their prime and had decided it was time for him to move on and create new superstars. It was one of the reasons why Hogan left and eventually became one of the reasons why Randy left. It was talked about it briefly during the episode they did on him for dark side of ring.
@MGSBigBoss77
@MGSBigBoss77 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah i was always pissed Macho didn't get that 3rd WWF title win at a time when he easily could've had one. Randy was still over in the early 90's Vince can't ever use that age thing cos thats utter horsecrap. Hogan returned in the early 2000's and was a WWE Champion again wasn't he? By beating Triple H (shrugs).
@adammartin2025
@adammartin2025 4 жыл бұрын
They were going with younger guys. The "New Generation". That's why Shawn took on Bret at Survivor Series '92 for the WWF title. It's why Bret won the title a month before that. Savage proposed a two-year feud with HBK, with HBK going over in the end, but it was nixed by Vince. Savage didn't want to commentate (and he was right), so he left.
@MGSBigBoss77
@MGSBigBoss77 4 жыл бұрын
@@adammartin2025 I know, but we as fans did enjoy the little time he had with Jerry Lawler on commentary at the time when Lawler was pretty sick on the mic being a heel against his babyface. But yeah it didn't last too long by the end of 1994 he bounced to WCW. The rest as they say is history!
@WhatAboutThemApples
@WhatAboutThemApples 4 жыл бұрын
@@adammartin2025 "They were going with younger guys" while I get that they still could have went with Younger guys but have Macho Man there to main event a few matches
@Jayce_Alexander
@Jayce_Alexander 4 жыл бұрын
WWE and Savage were on speaking terms again at the time of his death. He worked a couple of promos for the game, and looked like he was set to make a TV appearance. It was very reminiscent of what happened with Warrior in 2014. Unfortunately Randy passed away just weeks after recording the promos. As for the Stephanie rumours - the earliest trace of these can be found on the Death Valley Driver forums, around the early 2000s, in a forum thread that was basically a game where people were challenged to come up with the most ridiculous rumours they could think of. One person suggested Steph and Mach got it on in 94, and that's why he left the company in a hurry and never came back. There is no earlier trace of these rumours that can be found anywhere on the internet, in newsgroups (which were huge in the 90s and early 2000s), the dirt sheets, forums, or anywhere. The fact that all other "sources" (if they can be called that) date from after that joke post on the DVD forums suggests that it's likely a joke that's gotten way out of hand.
@brianwells5123
@brianwells5123 4 жыл бұрын
Sooo he fucked steph 😂
@justinhearst
@justinhearst 4 жыл бұрын
This should be top comment. Exposing "Facts" as fiction.
@joeerdei7042
@joeerdei7042 4 жыл бұрын
Hhh is that you ?
@romacechina
@romacechina 4 жыл бұрын
That and that video randy savage made slating triple h and he was going to take “his” girl Stephanie. Has helped kept that urban legend going.
@Tony-fq5bn
@Tony-fq5bn 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the whole Delonte West Lebron James' mom situation in the NBA
@jedijackluther
@jedijackluther 3 жыл бұрын
When steph is fooling around with HHH, she yells “OH YEAH, DIG IT!” when she climaxes.
@linkbelt111
@linkbelt111 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe she makes HHH say it?....🤷‍♂️
@therealshemphoward1752
@therealshemphoward1752 3 жыл бұрын
forget Slim Jim, he messed with Stephanie - karma now that Stephanie looks like she is morphing into Chyna
@SegaDream131
@SegaDream131 3 жыл бұрын
😂...
@kenrickeason
@kenrickeason 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@1980bwc
@1980bwc 22 күн бұрын
​@@therealshemphoward1752She was hot as heck though, back in the day. Lol
@MilMaska
@MilMaska 4 жыл бұрын
"Oh yea. The cream rises to the top." - Macho Man
@dskinner8757
@dskinner8757 4 жыл бұрын
The Macho Cream lol
@amongstthemasses3097
@amongstthemasses3097 4 жыл бұрын
@@dskinner8757 is there any other kind?
@dskinner8757
@dskinner8757 4 жыл бұрын
@@amongstthemasses3097 not in this natural world there's not lol
@taekwondotime
@taekwondotime 4 жыл бұрын
Stephanie is my age (I think) and holy f__k she could get a rise out of me anytime! :D
@paulscheidel3258
@paulscheidel3258 4 жыл бұрын
And the beat goes on
@robintaylor4249
@robintaylor4249 4 жыл бұрын
I can listen to Jim all day and never get bored with it.
@brentmichael4770
@brentmichael4770 Жыл бұрын
Yeah until you hear him talk politics! Did lives his daily life as a conservative but sides with out-of-touch woke democratic socialism.
@iamcasihart
@iamcasihart 12 күн бұрын
@@brentmichael4770Jim’s politics are absolutely one of my favorite of his qualities and it makes me value, appreciate, and love him more. It’s nice to know that he values what I do, and that’s important to me. Sorry you dislike it. 🤷🏻‍♀️
@neilgoldring4832
@neilgoldring4832 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone remember the 80's promo with Okerlund when Okerlund asks Savage what he's doing & Randy says " Gathering Momentum.... Oh, yeah....... Gathering momentum!" Classic😀👍
@radu6271
@radu6271 4 жыл бұрын
His brother Lanny Poffo went into detail about this in an interview (from Kayfabecommentaries) a few years back. He claimed that bad blood between Randy Savage and Vince McMahon had started in the late 80s when Savage asked McMahon to have his father Angelo Poffo (also a wrestler) to participate in an upcoming legends battle royal at a house show they were having at the time. According to Lanny, Angelo really wanted to be in that battle royal. To be in the ring together one last time with all his friends from back then, some of which he haven't seen in years. So he asked his son Randy if he could get him on this battle royal. Vince declined. Lanny explained that from that day forward Randy had a chip on his shoulder and he never forgot about Vince not granting him this simple wish. Lanny said there weren't a lot of days after that where Randy wouldn't mention it. Even decades later Randy would bring this up. Another contributing factor according to Lanny was, around 1994, Randy Savage was pitching McMahon an elaborate idea for a big 2-year feud against Shawn Michaels. Supposedly McMahon said to Savage they were having a youth movement at the time and Randy was too old and the best thing he could do was staying on the commentary desk. He left for WCW shortly after this. And he took his sponsor SlimJim with him. Lanny was also asked about the Stephanie rumors, but could not confirm any of it. People would have to ask Stephanie herself, he said. tl/dr - Savage never returned because he never forgave McMahon for not putting his father into a legends battle royal and also got put on the commentary desk against his will - McMahon never had Savage return, because he never forgave Savage for taking his sponsor SlimJim with him when he left WWF. You should check the interview out. Google kayfabefcommentaries to find their site. They also did many releases with Jim Cornette which are hilarious :) (edited for typos)
@prestanmarquis
@prestanmarquis 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Randy one of guys that were involved in the steroid trial in the early 90s. I know Hogan testified. It could have been that Vince didn't want him in a program with an upcoming Michaels with the public image of Savage during the aftermath of the trial. I'm spittballing here but if someone could enlighten me on the subject that would be great.
@radu6271
@radu6271 4 жыл бұрын
@@prestanmarquis Yeah. Absolutely possible. We might never know. I was just reiterating what Lanny said in that interview. That obviously doesn't have to be the final answer on anything. Could be any number of reasons why things happened the way they did.
@prestanmarquis
@prestanmarquis 4 жыл бұрын
@@radu6271 Its just soo weird because Warrior hated Vince more than anyone and they made peace before he passed.
@kidillusionofthedarknessfl2471
@kidillusionofthedarknessfl2471 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that's crazy
@grantorino2325
@grantorino2325 4 жыл бұрын
John's right. Unlike Jim Herd, Eric Bischoff, and Vince Russo (all of whom relied HEAVILY on name recognition), Vince McMahon always enjoyed turning unknowns into superstars. Rocky Maivia into "The Rock," Mean Mark Callous into "The Undertaker," Cactus Jack into "Mankind," the list goes on.
@tampadave13
@tampadave13 3 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, Savage was going to go back to the WWE for the Royal Rumble, they were advertising a surprise entry which was a silhouette. It was pushed heavily. Randy no showed the event without ever calling Vince. They used Jeff Jarrett instead, so like Luger, Vince was pissed.
@millec60
@millec60 3 жыл бұрын
Yep and he called Vince to tell him about the WCW deal in the middle of the night, drunk, and told Vince off. He also never came groveling back or asked to come back.
@troystaunton254
@troystaunton254 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to hear Russo say that Vince McMahon confided all the sordid details about savage and Steph in in him.
@Frontmanfrg
@Frontmanfrg 3 жыл бұрын
With opening the sordid details with “Bro, I don’t talk wrestling anymore. I hate fucking wrestling.....” then proceeds to talk Steph/Savage/Miss Elisabeth for 20-30 minutes.
@gfolkins1
@gfolkins1 3 жыл бұрын
I've been watching some of the 1994 Raw's recently, where Randy "Macho Man" Savage was the colour commentator, and it really looked and sounded like he loved working with Randy on the mic. Honestly, I think Vince was heartbroken when he left; like, feeling betrayed by his best friend. It's like he couldn't have forgiven him.
@AlinktoPersona
@AlinktoPersona 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct. Randy was a very professionnal person and he was genuinely caring about the wrestling business.He always was on time. I don''t believe the rumors that he had he had sex with an underage Stephanie.
@brianticas7671
@brianticas7671 7 ай бұрын
Partially yes
@heb430
@heb430 5 ай бұрын
People commenting are saying VM cried that Randy was leaving. Its possible that Randy didnt give enough of a notice but what gets me is that it reminds me of Cm Punk when he said VM cried when he left. Vince doesnt know or he doesnt separate friendship from money and he seems detached at times from those he easily claims are his 'friends' and yet throughout the days leading to these stars leaving you can tell that Vince was overusing them and forgetting the so called 'friendship' terms. 'Friends' my ass, Vince is detached in reality and this dumb nut is too old to learn what treating someone like a friend is really like. Its said really that this old fart hasnt learned enough in life to truly be like the movie character Jerry Maguire- a true figure of compassion, ethics and human treatment towards others. I just hope this man (Vince) didnt ruin his 'close friend' R-truth in any ways. Sad really if he did.
@PapaSmoke69X
@PapaSmoke69X 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently Macho Man was in talks to come back in 2011 around the time WWE All Stars came out. But he passed away before they could get him on TV
@FTW54
@FTW54 4 жыл бұрын
Yea there is a trailer for the game that you can find on KZbin still with Macho Man in it
@jeremygott7709
@jeremygott7709 4 жыл бұрын
@John Volken I wonder if Savage would have taken a job on commentary, had he not died?
@MegaCompactDisk
@MegaCompactDisk 4 жыл бұрын
Macho did come back. He made the commercial for WWE All Stars watch?v=hIVifMl9sgw
@DrJReefer
@DrJReefer 4 жыл бұрын
@John Volken Mostly it was his hip that went from years of elbow drops. Its why he started hurting people with it. He was landing on them to take the strain off his ass cheek.
@christopherray6370
@christopherray6370 4 жыл бұрын
Yes that was rumored.
@CocoWilliamsAJ
@CocoWilliamsAJ 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe WWE were open to a Savage return. He was part of the WWE AllStars video game in 2011 and he did a series of commercials for it before he passed on. I know it’s just a video game, but that was a good way of bringing Warrior back to the place he swore he’d never go back to. Same for Sting - WWE 2K was his introduction to WWE.
@SuperDevolution
@SuperDevolution 4 жыл бұрын
Jim's trying his hardest to avoid directly saying he thinks Macho slipped her the old Slim Jim.
@linkbelt111
@linkbelt111 3 жыл бұрын
Well, a lot of those guys have royalty checks they don’t wanna jeopardize, so they’re careful what they say.
@MichaelSmith-fq6hz
@MichaelSmith-fq6hz 3 жыл бұрын
@@linkbelt111 Nah, the Network has basically killed the royalty checks. Plus, Cornette isn't generally one to hold his tongue. It's more likely out of respect for Randy or Stephanie.
@kenrickeason
@kenrickeason 2 жыл бұрын
He is saying it by not saying it clearly..
@kenrickeason
@kenrickeason 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelSmith-fq6hz I agree.. He likes the both of them..
@AnEternalEnigma
@AnEternalEnigma Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelSmith-fq6hz CM Punk has said otherwise. He said he gets a pretty significant royalty check from WWE every 3 months.
@mncalapati415
@mncalapati415 4 жыл бұрын
"Snap into a SlimJim"... R.I.P. Randy Savage
@martifrey3357
@martifrey3357 3 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind though that Randy passed 10 years ago. Bret returned in 2010, Rocky in 2011, Brock returned in 2012, Warrior in 2014 and even Jeff Jarrett returned a couple of years ago just like Goldberg did. They all had bad blood with Vince. So chances are that Randy would have returned at one point as well....unless the Stephanie rumours are true lol
@JasonL77
@JasonL77 4 жыл бұрын
This picture makes me want to see Jim Cornette dress up as Randy Savage IRL.
@SegaDream131
@SegaDream131 3 жыл бұрын
Buy a painting and put it up over your bed....
@DrewCowan-cb2wl
@DrewCowan-cb2wl 4 ай бұрын
randy savage is trash
@josemuniz4454
@josemuniz4454 4 жыл бұрын
Jim and brian, keep up the great work!!!👍
@cheeno84
@cheeno84 4 жыл бұрын
He took Stephanie's *Black Cherry....* And her regular *Cherry* too! Oh Yeah, I snapped into her *Slim Trim!*
@easy414
@easy414 4 жыл бұрын
Rikardo Kbrera basically
@croddlepostus3993
@croddlepostus3993 4 жыл бұрын
LoL!
@calvinbell757
@calvinbell757 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@vampirascoffin870
@vampirascoffin870 4 жыл бұрын
DIG ITTT!!!!!! 😎💪👆
@timhayes3336
@timhayes3336 4 жыл бұрын
slim trim, haha thats gold
@wwebb1
@wwebb1 4 жыл бұрын
This is the best thumbnail on the Internet.
@mrfozz5209
@mrfozz5209 4 жыл бұрын
I like how he doesn't directly say one of the reasons Vince was pissed at Savage
@Peppers19781978
@Peppers19781978 4 жыл бұрын
People who think it was Steph...seriously if Savage was with Vince's underage daughter don't you think things would've been more serious for Savage like jail? Vince took out a full page ad in I believe Time Magazine when Randy died to offer his condolences. Savage was back in the good graces of the WWE near the end. Savage is now in the HOF. Savage for years turned down the HOF unless Vince put his father and Lanny in the HOF. After he died, Lanny went against his wishes and I assume a ton of money was thrown his way.
@willisapril
@willisapril Жыл бұрын
Randy's ex Stephanie Bellars says Randy confessed he hooked up with Stephanie McMahon.
@Reunification63
@Reunification63 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jim, please do a shoot on Macho Man's first WWF title run.. Always seemed to me hogan took half Randy's spotlight at the time.. your thoughts would be interesting cheers
@xsteveconwayx
@xsteveconwayx 3 жыл бұрын
He was under a Legends deal at the time of his death. He died just before the first action figure released. He was supposed to do a ton of promotion for Mattel, too.
@chrisjames5188
@chrisjames5188 4 жыл бұрын
Was weird that randy never came back when just about everyone else did. Most who left on not great terms.
@johns3491
@johns3491 4 жыл бұрын
As I recall shortly before he died, he did some promotional stuff for WWE (for a video game I believe?). That made me think that fences were finally mended, but he didn't live long enough to see where the relationship would go.
@RFSKannon
@RFSKannon 4 жыл бұрын
he signed a legends deal with WWE shortly before he died and did promotions for a new action figure from Mattel. The video is probably still on youtube somewhere from comicon when they did the surprise reveal.
@alexandermacdougall7873
@alexandermacdougall7873 4 жыл бұрын
m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnq5mpmDoZ6mndk
@jamesjodon7038
@jamesjodon7038 4 жыл бұрын
Hall and Nash wouldn’t have been allowed back if they weren’t buddies of Triple H and Shawn. Luger, Bam Bam and Jeff Jarrett weren’t brought back either.
@alvinhorhn6524
@alvinhorhn6524 3 жыл бұрын
Knowing how close the Poffo Family is, I suspect Randy never forgave Vince for not allowing his father to enter the Battle Royal. I don't think the WWF asked Randy if he ever wanted to come back because they knew he didn't. I can imagine Savage being highly offended over McMahon not granting this request. I think the graphics showing his bald spot would have upset him as well. Most of us would say, those perceived slights weren't worth the money he lost, but Randy Savage was one of a kind. By most accounts, he saved his money well and wasn't hurting. There was some contact before he passed and he was under a legends contract (I think)....time does heal all wounds.
@jacobscull6294
@jacobscull6294 4 жыл бұрын
Damn Jim confirming the Steph rumor IMO with this answer. Such a political response from Cornette is so against his demeanor, but you know he is morally respectful in his core. He would never disrespect another man’s daughter at the behest of wrestling lore gossip and fans curiosity.
@tomsawyer5736
@tomsawyer5736 Жыл бұрын
Had to be Steph
@nohbuddy1
@nohbuddy1 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it was that video of Randy talking shit about Triple H and Steph
@booty121212
@booty121212 4 жыл бұрын
Macho man should have gone to wwf in late 1999 to 2002 era when he got roided up and big as hell. He looked like a freaking tank. Imagine a 2000s macho with 2 girls on his arm, badass biker gear cutting promos with SCSA or The Rock?
@booty121212
@booty121212 4 жыл бұрын
@Patriot 13 yezzir!
@booty121212
@booty121212 4 жыл бұрын
@J Crash idk man he looked worse in the mid 90s. He had a flabby deflated body from losing muscle. His hairline receded and he had that long flap of hair like hogan. He looked much better with the sheer hair pony tail, trinned beard and bigger muscles
@Commander76
@Commander76 4 жыл бұрын
Hogan testified in court directly against Vince McMahon...and Vince moved on. Warrior walked out on him...so did Austin. Vince moved on. The Stephanie rumors must be true.
@JohnDoe-gk7ok
@JohnDoe-gk7ok 4 жыл бұрын
He sort of came back. He did a promo for one of the video games
@rigormortis3532
@rigormortis3532 4 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh yeaaahhhh, love the podcast Jim! You the man! Always will be. My favorite episode was when you talked about that 22 patty hamburger at wendy's haha that was super funny!
@robmetaldeth1889
@robmetaldeth1889 4 жыл бұрын
Opinion: McMahon didn't mind Savage leaving, I believe he told Vince they'd still reap the slim jim rewards together, WWF was hemorrhaging money at the time, he got to WCW and handed those rewards to Bischoff, McMahon was crushed.
@dang2320
@dang2320 4 жыл бұрын
Was the Slim Jim deal really that big?
@brookecataldo2942
@brookecataldo2942 4 жыл бұрын
@@dang2320 I heard it was 7 figures from Bischoff's podcast
@SegaDream131
@SegaDream131 3 жыл бұрын
This would be the bone in question brothers....
@_allcap
@_allcap 2 жыл бұрын
Stephanie
@wesleywarsmith1113
@wesleywarsmith1113 4 жыл бұрын
Randy in WCW 95/96 was Awesome! But then they wasted his talent in the NWO . Randy didn't need a Gang, he was better on his own or with two guys like Sting and Luger. That brief( 2 times) periods when Randy was With Sting was the best for me as they are both in my top 5.
@derekazyan9942
@derekazyan9942 4 жыл бұрын
J Crash haha 😂 nice joke
@terrencecastonguay1984
@terrencecastonguay1984 4 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest the reason why is bc of the supposed Randy/Stephanie thing.
@johnraines293
@johnraines293 4 жыл бұрын
Steph was cute at the time and 17 isn't all that bad as much as the outraged society has made millions believe.
@myhandlewastaken
@myhandlewastaken 4 жыл бұрын
Hello police, this comment right here^^.
@cgasucks
@cgasucks 4 жыл бұрын
Since Macho is on the other side, I wish Stephanie can confirm if the rumors are true.
@josheternal
@josheternal 4 жыл бұрын
Randy and Steph is false and has been false from.the start. Besides, how do we know that it wasnt Savage who refused to come back.to WWE? Point is that there is just no evidence of the Savage Stephanie thing. Especially when everyone who was actually around Randy at the time this would have happened can't even place Randy and Steph ever having even been alone together or even in each others company at all.
@superstarreviews9937
@superstarreviews9937 4 жыл бұрын
My personal opinion is,it never happened!! But enough people believe it did,that had he taken him back,he'd have looked horrible! Whether true or not.
@BrittneyStarling
@BrittneyStarling 4 жыл бұрын
I love the artwork!!!
@cliffwaltz8223
@cliffwaltz8223 4 жыл бұрын
Lol. Great art Travis. As always. Wish he had the hat tho. Lmao
@JM1993951
@JM1993951 4 жыл бұрын
Because Stephanie...um...."Snapped into a Slim Jim"?
@emperorpalpatine1228
@emperorpalpatine1228 4 жыл бұрын
I heard the commercial he did for WWE ALLSTARS was the beginning of a return for him to WWE, but he died before it was finalized.
@unr3alGaming
@unr3alGaming 4 жыл бұрын
I never knew that commercial existed. I just went to watch it, and I can almost guarantee you that he would have signed a WWE Legends contract to make some appearances if he hadn't done so already. And he'd definitely be more entertaining on commentary than the current clowns they have trying their best at "storytelling". While we're at it, imagine how much more entertianing the Michael Cole heel gimmick would have been against Randy Savage instead of Jerry Lawler. You'd have way better promos, and Randy could have just kicked the crap out of Swagger and then crushed Cole like a soda can in their match at Wrestlemania (if it weren't for his heart problem).
@Blackhawk211
@Blackhawk211 4 жыл бұрын
all it would've been was a single raw appearance to squash Heath Slater in 2012 for the lead up to Raw 1000 like all the other legends did
@dquanissavage6287
@dquanissavage6287 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Shoot Jim!!😎🐐🐐
@CastleBlackWatches
@CastleBlackWatches 3 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty obvious from watching numerous interviews and his documentary, he didn’t want to go back. He didn’t like that Vince thought of him as old and wouldn’t let him wrestle. And then when he went to WCW they made fun of his bald spot and that was a really sensitive topic for him.
@MixerMadness
@MixerMadness 4 жыл бұрын
I take solace in the fact he DID comeback for a legends deal and got to see that at least, even if was a small thing it was better then nothing. I always wondered what kind of pop he would of gotten if he attacked hogan at one of his return matches or during the 02 nWo storyline
@stormydavis8546
@stormydavis8546 4 жыл бұрын
And, Slim Jim is STILL using Macho for their advertising, it’s awesome to see them!
@MegaCompactDisk
@MegaCompactDisk 4 жыл бұрын
Macho Man did return to the WWE in 2011 right before he passed. He made the commercial for WWE All Stars watch?v=hIVifMl9sgw But too many marks fantasize about popping someone's cherry...
@TheBroadestBlue
@TheBroadestBlue 4 жыл бұрын
I would say they were on their way to reconciling. Compare how, a couple years after Randy's death, Warrior appeared in WWE 2K14 and his deal at that time was with 2K, not WWE. A year later he was inducted into the Hall of Fame, reconciled with Vince, etc. In 2010 or 2011, Randy made a deal with Mattel to have figures made. Had he lived, I have to assume he would have eventually done the HOF (Vince was at least willing to sign off on a Macho Man figure, which was progress). And if not (due to his insistence on his father's inclusion as a requirement), he at least would have appeared in some other context. It's bittersweet to imagine him as the big surprise on a Legends/Reunion episode of Raw, or even just sitting down with Steamboat to do a KZbin/commentary video of their WrestleMania III match. Actually it just hurts. Also, it's important to note that WWE DID reach out to Randy, and he declined the HOF more than once-insisting that his dad would have to be inducted, too (as I mentioned above). So this may have more to do with Vince's change of approach (over the years) in dealing with estranged former wrestlers, and the bad timing of Randy's death, than Randy having committed the unforgivable. All that said, I'm just as curious as anyone else to know if "it" happened...
@tylerw.5458
@tylerw.5458 4 жыл бұрын
Why oh why, didn’t Seattle run the ball.
@michaelkaminski8339
@michaelkaminski8339 4 жыл бұрын
Same reason The Mets didn't start George .Stone in game six of the 1973 World Series up 3-2 vs the A's. And moved up Seaver and Matlock on short rest and lost two close games and the series. Mets fans still moaning 47 years later lol.
@SouthernSkeptic
@SouthernSkeptic 4 жыл бұрын
Because it was rigged.
@MrJjburgess11
@MrJjburgess11 3 жыл бұрын
Because they had 2 more tries to get it in. That was a throw away play. They figured throw one. If we don't get it. Run it on the next one. They weren't expecting an interception in that situation.
@johnalexander1769
@johnalexander1769 4 жыл бұрын
I thought it was the Stephanie McMahon thing
@kamfisher1714
@kamfisher1714 4 жыл бұрын
John Alexander stop believing everything you read
@Dave_ja_vu
@Dave_ja_vu 4 жыл бұрын
That's what Jim is alluding to, James Dixon thinks it that reason. He just knows better than to actually say it and get sued by Vince.
@Dave_ja_vu
@Dave_ja_vu 4 жыл бұрын
@John Volken well yeah you're probably right there, and when you consider the amount of outrageous comments Jim has made over the years, to not say it leads me to believe they've been told in the past they'd be facing legal action if they did
@maitreyas.4902
@maitreyas.4902 4 жыл бұрын
That is a myth.
@JusRed48
@JusRed48 4 жыл бұрын
The Steph thing couldn't have been true because they signed him to a Legends deal a few weeks before he died and he did a commercial promo for WWE All-Stars. If the Steph thing was true we never would've seen that.
@josephcostello695
@josephcostello695 4 жыл бұрын
He showed Stephanie his macho madness ooooh yaaah dig it. RIP Randy
@shinjiblack9460
@shinjiblack9460 4 жыл бұрын
Here's a question for you, how about telling some Bobby Eaton stories. I was surprised to find out recently that I'm friends with one of his sons and since I was always a fan of the Midnight Express I thought it'd be cool to know a little more about his Dad.
@quigglyjohnston6118
@quigglyjohnston6118 4 жыл бұрын
He has told probably 5 hours of Bobby Eaton stories across the hundreds of podcasts so far, watch some of the older ones.
@shinjiblack9460
@shinjiblack9460 4 жыл бұрын
@@quigglyjohnston6118 I had something a little more personal in mind. I feel kinda bad asking Mike anything.
@unclelloyd
@unclelloyd 3 жыл бұрын
It runs much deeper than Slim Jim. Other guys/gals have left with far worse heat and came back. Savage had Chyna-level heat. Not bringing him back to TV in the years that followed WCW shutting down was one thing. But, keeping him out of the HoF until after his death, and then having the gall to get Hogan of all people to "induct" him.....
@aubrywilliams6158
@aubrywilliams6158 4 жыл бұрын
Boning his daughter probably had a smidge to do with it
@supermanXL
@supermanXL 4 жыл бұрын
if that story is true wouldn't steph been a minor?
@adriancarlos9155
@adriancarlos9155 4 жыл бұрын
If there's grass on the field ... play ball
@leir2005
@leir2005 4 жыл бұрын
@@supermanXL Steph would of been 17 at the time with the age of consent being 16 in Connecticut
@supermanXL
@supermanXL 4 жыл бұрын
@@leir2005 can y'all stop. leave kids alone.
@DDuMas
@DDuMas 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised anything gets in the way of Vince making money, even that.
@tempestfennac9687
@tempestfennac9687 4 жыл бұрын
The books which Jim mentioned are really good (so anyone who's not read them knows, they are named Titan Sinking, Titan Shattered and Titan Screwed).
@ThisWreathingNurse
@ThisWreathingNurse 4 жыл бұрын
yea 100k!!!
@dgenerate707
@dgenerate707 4 жыл бұрын
Lanny said the deal with ConAgra played a big part in the fallot, Nash said they wanted him to be the SJ guy but he told them go to WCW and use Savage.
@JuanaWatchDaWorldBurn
@JuanaWatchDaWorldBurn 4 жыл бұрын
is this a fact?
@Rodshark75
@Rodshark75 4 жыл бұрын
@@JuanaWatchDaWorldBurn Kevin Nash said it, so take it with a grain of salt. Macho had a personality and an image, Nash not so much. So I think they were wanting Macho all along
@kennethmalone4689
@kennethmalone4689 4 жыл бұрын
Macho Man never went back because Vince wouldn't have been able to stand seeing his son-in-law get whooped in a shoot by the legendary brother Leapin' Lanny.
@chadk890
@chadk890 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard of Lanny being a tough guy but I wouldn't sell Triple H short. Remember he was trained by Killer Kowalski
@BishopM1
@BishopM1 3 жыл бұрын
I never believed the rumor about Savage and Steph. It didn’t start until after Randy saying what he would do to Steph to mock HHH and Vince in 2001. He never said he did, he said he would. I just think it grew legs of its own.
@The-Underbaker
@The-Underbaker 3 жыл бұрын
He did say that he "would give her a kiss for old time's sake".
@1981CrueHead
@1981CrueHead 3 жыл бұрын
They is an interview on KZbin with Randy's WCW girlfriend Gorgeous George ( her born name is Stephanie as well) and she said in that interview Randy wanted to have a three way relationship with her and her seventeen year old sister. It's on KZbin somewhere, look it up of you have the time.
@willisapril
@willisapril Жыл бұрын
Randy's ex Stephanie Bellars says Randy confessed he hooked up with Stephanie McMahon.
@Guycodeacademypage
@Guycodeacademypage 4 жыл бұрын
She was just Stephanie Mc before experiencing Macho MAN. He put the MAN in McMahon. OOOOOOOOOH, YEAAAAAAAH!!!
@ronaldshank7589
@ronaldshank7589 4 жыл бұрын
Was he slipping his "Slim Jim" deep up inside her "Wrapper"?
@Guycodeacademypage
@Guycodeacademypage 4 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldshank7589 OOOOH, YEAH! After all... sky's the limit and (her) space is the place!
@ronaldshank7589
@ronaldshank7589 4 жыл бұрын
@@Guycodeacademypage Yeah...but apparently, her space wasn't the place he shoulda been! I'll bet he found that out the hard way!
@willisapril
@willisapril Жыл бұрын
Randy's ex Stephanie Bellars says Randy confessed he hooked up with Stephanie McMahon. But I had always heard Randy Saved all his money and never spent a time and was set for life and never needed to come back to the WWE as many others did becaused they needed the money.
@darkreaper8859
@darkreaper8859 3 жыл бұрын
From what bischoff has said savage was the easiest contact to get because slimjim came with him and that covered either the first year or 2years I can't remember exactly
@deanladue3151
@deanladue3151 3 жыл бұрын
No doubt about it, Randy sure liked his Stephanies. 1: Stephanie McMahon, 2: Stephanie Bellars/AKA 'Gorgeous George'.
@raymondazor
@raymondazor 4 жыл бұрын
Many people forget that randy could of been back before he passed away but continued to say no to the hall of fame because he wanted his whole family in.
@LetMeSayThis706
@LetMeSayThis706 4 жыл бұрын
Good answer!
@Squeakypickles619
@Squeakypickles619 4 жыл бұрын
Always thought randy savage was going to end up being revealed asthe anonymous raw gm
@InfiniCalendar
@InfiniCalendar 4 жыл бұрын
C.G D I always suspected the GM was Cole since he was the only one allowed to speak for them.
@LetMeSayThis706
@LetMeSayThis706 4 жыл бұрын
Has there ever been a match or a fight between Magnum T.A. & Dusty Rhodes vs the Road Warriors?
@Wadzillia
@Wadzillia 4 жыл бұрын
Not in Mid Atlantic or NWA. When the Road Warriors turned heel and injured Dusty's eye, Magnum's in ring career was over.
@CreightonChaney-io4xv
@CreightonChaney-io4xv 4 жыл бұрын
Ooooh yeah!
@lezlethal
@lezlethal 4 жыл бұрын
I think he died just before they could officially bring him back. If i'm not mistaken they started to have a working relationship a few months before. I find it hard to believe, with all of the Legends they have singed to deals, that Savage would still be out of the loop.
@amaan.a
@amaan.a 4 жыл бұрын
The cream rose to the top and went inside Stephanie McMahon.
@beauvanbibberbvgration3770
@beauvanbibberbvgration3770 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@dachronicalalittlebitofeve6630
@dachronicalalittlebitofeve6630 4 жыл бұрын
Very possible it was about the slim Jim deal, Bundy was never forgiven for doing the Kraft advert either. Vince is funny like that
@TheVideoStoreSasquatch
@TheVideoStoreSasquatch 4 жыл бұрын
It sounds like he’s saying macho man boned Stephanie
@CARTOONIVERSE1
@CARTOONIVERSE1 4 жыл бұрын
Josh Moore- *He did* ...in the ass-hole so that she would *still be a virgin* upon inspection. Vince found-out years later.
@CARTOONIVERSE1
@CARTOONIVERSE1 4 жыл бұрын
@travelling man - Probably.
@CARTOONIVERSE1
@CARTOONIVERSE1 4 жыл бұрын
@Jaqua Brown - *No shit Sherlock.*
@kurtvanderbogarde8402
@kurtvanderbogarde8402 4 жыл бұрын
@@CARTOONIVERSE1 why would Vince have her inspected? it's hardly Afghanistan.
@CARTOONIVERSE1
@CARTOONIVERSE1 4 жыл бұрын
@@kurtvanderbogarde8402 -That trick has been used by *rich girls* to fool their parents forever. Vince knows wrestlers are creeps.
@Justin-bo5pg
@Justin-bo5pg 4 жыл бұрын
I find it odd that no one has floated the idea that Savage didn't want to go back and held a grudge against Vince for moving him away from being a wrestler. I mean to the day he died he was angry his dad wasn't involved in some legends battle royal in the mid 80s.
@Rodshark75
@Rodshark75 4 жыл бұрын
Money is the fastest way to make amends. I think it was a mutual thing. Both were bitter by slights and screw overs and I don't think either one trusted or wanted to do business with the other.
@Chicken_Wing91
@Chicken_Wing91 4 жыл бұрын
Macho did do the wwe superstars video game commercial so he may have been working on something before his death
@thehighjedi5109
@thehighjedi5109 4 жыл бұрын
Sitting in the hospital bed right now listening to my favorite people in podcasting Jim Cornette and THEEEEE Great Brian Last when the nurse comes in and forces me to eat lunch. So out of respect to Jimmy C. I ordered the first thing I could think of......Double Cheeseburger, EXTRA CHEESE and nothing else on them. Shout out to Cornette and Last.
@thugking5452
@thugking5452 4 жыл бұрын
Get well soon, man.
@thehighjedi5109
@thehighjedi5109 4 жыл бұрын
Trinath Behara thanks.
@ObliviouslyGifted
@ObliviouslyGifted 2 жыл бұрын
Stephanie was snapping into Machos slim jim with her teeth!
@ScottParisi
@ScottParisi 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone think the animated Jim looks like the Living Legend, Larry Z?
@diggadirt393
@diggadirt393 4 жыл бұрын
Ha a little bit
@shawn8971
@shawn8971 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much confirmed it for me..it was the Stephaine thing
@ultimatejoshiewoshieness
@ultimatejoshiewoshieness 2 жыл бұрын
carefully chosen & arranged words & a smooth save, proves nothing but says a lot.
@NFLGuru22
@NFLGuru22 4 жыл бұрын
If I was a betting man, I'd have to say it has to do with the allegations surrounding Macho Man and Stephanie McMahon. Just my guess. Also, I love the Aistin commercial at the end advertising the Vikings Cowboys game on Sunday Night Football. I'll be watching.
@suckstobeyou2623
@suckstobeyou2623 2 жыл бұрын
Jim cornette, please give us your review of Randy Savage on South Park strong woman episode.
@majurbludd
@majurbludd 3 жыл бұрын
Stephanie loves the Macho Man's Slim Jim.
@JasonL77
@JasonL77 4 жыл бұрын
Towards the end, Randy did do some merchandise promotion for WWE. He promoted an action figure of himself and the WWE All-Stars video game. I think there may have been more planned, but then Randy had his heart attack.
@tbonedagr869
@tbonedagr869 4 жыл бұрын
Bischoff once said those commercials paid WCW 750k a month
@zakunick1
@zakunick1 4 жыл бұрын
Is it fact that Vince never invited Macho back, and Macho just refused?
@phreshsub5254
@phreshsub5254 4 жыл бұрын
Did Stephee sell on that sable smack down episode
@warrtiger9780
@warrtiger9780 3 жыл бұрын
it wasn't Stephanie, he came off the top bed post with Linda.
@andrewmcgovern9997
@andrewmcgovern9997 4 жыл бұрын
Ohhh yeaaaah dig it
@Oldschool1943
@Oldschool1943 4 жыл бұрын
R.i.p. Randy savage still my favorite wrestler
@thereal9118
@thereal9118 4 жыл бұрын
Cornette looks like Zbysco in the thumbnail.
@boston27
@boston27 4 жыл бұрын
I remember after Savage have his retirement speech in Phoenix and finished with WCW, I would watch Raw hoping that they would being him back.
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd 4 жыл бұрын
By that point he was dealing with the heart disease that would eventually kill him.
@yoshikitakaya7871
@yoshikitakaya7871 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder whats the real reason and love the thumbnail
@tonyc7301
@tonyc7301 4 жыл бұрын
Because just like with slim jim, Stephanie needed a little excitement.
@apark02
@apark02 4 жыл бұрын
Doing Stephanie
@Willverinerage
@Willverinerage 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the way the lack of answers always arrive from this question, it leans heavily toward Steph doing the nasty with Macho.....I'm actually kind of impressed with Randy, it's like Cersei and Jamie having a relationship on Game of Thrones....it's the world's "worst kept secret"
@Utubesanarc
@Utubesanarc 4 жыл бұрын
I also heard that if it happened steph looked for it. Rumors of how shed flirt with wrestlers in the back were common. Maybe vince needed a tighter leash on that bxtch
@babayagaslobbedaknobba
@babayagaslobbedaknobba 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Vince actually believed that Savage slept with Stephanie.
@flamboyant480
@flamboyant480 4 жыл бұрын
Hilarious Jim Cornette artwork!
@user-wg6ik1wi6s
@user-wg6ik1wi6s 3 жыл бұрын
Well I know one thing, Savage did literally just up and leave without telling anyone meanwhile Vince McMahon was expecting to see Savage that week on Raw sitting right next to him on commentary.
@alexanderanderson6605
@alexanderanderson6605 3 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie if he did get to press Stephanie he's a lucky guy.
@fredfreeman2515
@fredfreeman2515 3 жыл бұрын
No, he would’ve been a sex offender.
@alexanderanderson6605
@alexanderanderson6605 3 жыл бұрын
@@fredfreeman2515 shit how old was Stephanie when the rumours took place that he slept with her?
@alexanderanderson6605
@alexanderanderson6605 3 жыл бұрын
in 96 she would have been 20 years old. 97 she would have been 21. 95 she would have been 18. Not sure what the rules are over there but 18 is the legal consenting age over here in the U.K. So anything after 95 wouldn't make him a sex offender. Now if you are referring to the huge age gap, then yes I agree it doesn't look good for Savage. All I'm saying though is Stephanie Mcmahon is hot! HHH has done well for himself.
@fredfreeman2515
@fredfreeman2515 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderanderson6605 he left in 94. Like literally a month after her 18th birthday. Say what you will.
@alexanderanderson6605
@alexanderanderson6605 3 жыл бұрын
@@fredfreeman2515 alright 94 time period is very fishy if he and her did sleep together at that time. Could be questions of grooming or generally could just be Stephanie being rebellious and sleeping with one of her fave wrestlers. It's why we are drawn to wrestling, it's such a crazy world of characters you can't help but be drawn to it.
@dranzerjetli5126
@dranzerjetli5126 4 жыл бұрын
Lol hearsay is that macho and Stephanie.
@whildhair83
@whildhair83 4 жыл бұрын
This only fans the flames of that "deflowering" of Stephanie Mcmahon rumor...
@bradp1103
@bradp1103 4 жыл бұрын
i figured it was because after the slim jim stuff vince wanted savage to be the guy to come crawling back but he never did. vince needed that ego rush and he never could get it out of savage.
@hezamachine
@hezamachine 3 жыл бұрын
You can't spell "Stephanie McMahon" without T-H-E- M-A-C-H-O-M-A-N-P-E-N-I-S!
@jeremygott7709
@jeremygott7709 4 жыл бұрын
I heard that Savage and WWF, I don't think they were WWE at the time, were talking before his death.
@jeremygott7709
@jeremygott7709 4 жыл бұрын
@bigevilworldwide1 Well, I had that wrong then.
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