Jim Cornette Reviews Dave Meltzer & Bryan Alvarez Arguing Over Toni Storm

From Episode 343 of the Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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[@hollowayquotes]

Don't you just love when you're about to leave KZbin, and a wild Jim Cornette suddenly appears?

[@jaybarnacles4846]

Can I catch him with a master ball?

[@allenlegacy305]

@@jaybarnacles4846he will throw it back and tell you piss up a rope 😂

[@deepfamiliar3416]

*Dave Meltzer uses Wrestling Analysis.* It's not very effective.

[@daleharris3809]

They're so majestic in their natural habitat

[@mozzknows]

The best

[@JohnRigby5011]

If this argument was in the Tokyo Dome it would be rated 8 stars

[@thereal2scummy636]

No itl be start of new rating limits 15* ,so he can give SPEEDY Kahn 14.5* for his next appearance

[@joshmulligan950]

9 stars if Kenny spat on them

[@MichaelSmith-fq6hz]

If the argument featured Kurt Angle, he would rate it 4.5 stars despite universal acclaim for being one of the best arguments of all time.

[@ii9714]

It would sell out

[@AnneHathawayRules]

18 stars if Ospray chimed in

[@HothVeteran]

My boss walked in on me watching this and told me to get back to work. I then shouted at him. “IT’S NOT MY JOB!!!”

[@swishbenoit4489]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@chrisgrissom3610]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@AnneHathawayRules]

"Chin up, tits out, and watch until ten fifteeeeen" 😂😂😂

[@scrappy93]

Yeah right

[@retrokoh1507]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@asurlybarber3620]

Now waiting on the inevitable "Cornette reviews Meltzer vs. Alvarez" omnibus.

[@justinyant1527]

We can only hope...and by december we should have at least 8 hours worth...might be a two parter.

[@pk_1]

Has to come out🔥🔥🔥🤣🤣

[@redwolfe7049]

Oh god yes please.

[@gerrydodson7512]

best idea I have ever heard

[@jmfordaliza3139]

we gonna laugh all day with that Omnibus 😂😂😂😂

[@sickboy703]

Dave is 100% helping book this stuff. To be this defensive, he has to be.

[@lulsinki]

When faced with so much unarguable truth, from someone close to him who he can't accuse of being bias towards the competition too and he is still so defensive rather than just agreeing. He's either booking or is in love with Tony Khan 🤡

[@billybarnett9518]

@@lulsinki The thing is, Dave actually is right, he just doesn't know how to debate. AEW has done situational booking for years now, Moxley, Danielson, Claudio, PAC, and Lucha Bros all switch roles depending on their opponents. Why Bryan is just now noticing this, I have no clue.

[@lulsinki]

@@billybarnett9518 they don't even have to switch roles that's the thing. You have tweeners that will fight any heel or face, those tend to get massive support. And if you are actually good at booking you can book a heel v heel or face v face properly without having to switch one during or after, even double turns if done right can be amazing

[@billybarnett9518]

@@lulsinki They do have tweeners, Jim just doesn't like them.

[@johngorman7685]

I'm sure he's giving input. More than anything, his entire reputation is on the line with the success or failure of AEW. For years he's been out in front yelling to thr mountains that this was the future of wrestling and guys like Cornette were "out of touch" with what modern wrestling was. If AEW fails it's him who was out of touch the entire time

[@thewholefnshow]

Somebody needs to tell Dave they changed the meltzer driver to the Tony driver. He can stop kissing their butts now.

[@christian6455]

That checks still coming

[@layersofjade5197]

@@christian6455 Jim Cornette is the learning tree. Dave Meltzer is the learning disability.

[@Parallelocam]

I'm convinced Tony and the Bucks go to Dave for booking advice and some of these ideas are his. It matches with his mental state being erratic

[@christian6455]

@@layersofjade5197 ah man

[@Snakeman612]

U can say asses....Ur a grown fucking adult!! Maybe not

[@actuallynotsteve]

A forty minute clip about a Dave and Brian argument ? That works for me, brother.

[@OmegaRedFan]

🎶 we don't need no, Chris Jericho🎶 🎶 we don't need no, AEW 🎶 .. HEY! CORNETTE, LEAVE THE MARKS ALONE! 🎶 🎵 all in all marks are just bricks in the wall 🎶🎵

[@TimmyJamesDafunnyMan]

​​@@OmegaRedFanI think you got a bit too excited there if you wanna make a catchy parody song listen to the song you're parodying and write lyrics that sound similar to it. Otherwise you get what you just spit out which was jumbled up nonsense. Not having a dig just giving some constructive criticism. The first two lines were great.

[@oddishhonor]

I want Alvarez to question the booking so much to the point where Dave finally yells , “THIS IS GOOD AND MAKES SENSE BECAUSE I BOOKED IT”

[@fernandomacias1469]

😂😂😂

[@UniversalSpork]

Can't wait for Alvarez to write "The Death of AEW" and there is an entire chapter on how badly Meltzer's shadow booking was.

[@miguelheat]

"It was me, bryan, it was me all along!!" - dave meltzer

[@MTMuppet]

First Kenny, and now Alvarez is turning babyface. They’re fleeing the ship…

[@gullreefclub]

Like Rats deserting the sinking ship

[@asurlybarber3620]

Fools go down with the ship, smart people evacuate while there's still time. Bryan is looking smarter every week. Just hope Kenny's not working us.

[@dogred431]

​@@asurlybarber3620Same, but I think Kenny wants that big blockbuster storyline against Ospreay about who is Meltzer's favourite.

[@NathanBauman-zj6ip]

It just now occurs to me how much Meltzer talks like Dustin Hoffman's Rainman character.

[@2010ChargerRT]

@@asurlybarber3620Kenny is a work

[@daleharris3809]

Watching Dave tie himself in verbal knots is simultaneously fascinating and infuriating.

[@JGrath029]

40 mins??? YEAH

[@yohojones]

I agree. Fewer 5 minute clips. More 30+ minute clips.

[@JohnRigby5011]

YEAHHH

[@bennett420316]

No thanks

[@bobpatel5646]

Yeah but how much is gonna be an ad read?

[@thewrestlingoldhead]

We're not worthy! Lol

[@SportPhilosophies]

Dave is so up his own arse in the meta analysis of wrestling. He doesn’t understand that in Kayfabe your best wrestling match would be a one minute squash of an opponent. The best wrestler would not go 20 minutes with anyone. His own rating system of wrestling in a vacuum is blocking out Kayfabe sense

[@niranu78]

I bet he's so confused about how Bron Breakker is booked on Raw.

[@SportPhilosophies]

@@niranu78 “Bron didn’t show off 20 different flips and holds in a 30 minute classic, they are making him look weak” - Dave

[@mattroxursoul]

That is the thing I have seen a lot of in AEW. They put what are supposed to be main eventers out there with absolute nobodies. Then those supposed stars have to take 15-20 minutes and barely win. That is beyond silly. In any other era it would be a squash, where if you kinda liked the underneath guy he would get the start of a hope spot, then done.

[@jackieparmz]

This is a great point and pretty similar to a thought I had while listening to this… Dave seems to be at the point where someone like Toni Storm, a world champion, having a heatless competitive 7 minute match with an inexperienced opponent is actually a great display of how good of a wrestler she is, because she can go that long with someone who’s green and make them look alright. Which is all good a fine, Toni is definitely a good hand, but the point is that it doesn’t make any booking sense when trying to build an angle for a championship match not even two weeks away with a different wrestler who’s known for being a technician and a badass. It’s a microcosm of Dave and the IWC’s mark mentality, which is that they’re watching not for the angles, the stories or the personalities; they’re watching to see how many moves each wrestler can do in their choreographed routine and how long they can do it for. And that’s precisely why Dave blathers out the word “match” as often as he does… to him, the professional wrestling experience is sitting at home by himself in front of a television or computer and watching matches after they’ve originally aired, often without commentary he understands, and being impressed by how long the match went on and how many flashy suplexes were done, with bonus points awarded if the wrestlers actually look like wrestlers and if the crowd is large and excited about the event. It’s such a soulless and pathetic way to enjoy wrestling, which is why it appeals so much to the type of people who don’t have a life outside of this shit… Dave and his followers have fully convinced themselves that their understanding of professional wrestling is superior to everyone else’s, and since they don’t have anything else, they can’t let it go.

[@JumpinJackClash]

@@jackieparmzI’ve been echoing the same sentiment for a while now and you’ve articulated it brilliantly. Well put.

[@barrymccockiner773]

Never go full Meltzer.

[@YuriBobo]

Simple Dave

[@arthurdaffos1490]

​@@YuriBobo this m-m-m-match m-m-m-m-made me ha-happy

[@MarquisFoxborough2736]

@@arthurdaffos1490😂😂😂😂😂

[@dawa7267]

16:49 Never take a sip of your drink while listening to Unca Dave is the REAL lesson here ... Got me good! 😂😂😂😂

[@Scouseredneck48]

Meltzer is now "old man shouts at cloud"

[@RichardRietdijk]

… Bryyyyaaaaaaan!

[@josevillarreal5955]

If literally everyone stopped watching the show, and literally no one came out to the events, and Tony Khan finally decided to just call it good and close up shop, Dave Meltzer would still consider it to be the most flawless wrestling TV of all time. He is set in his mind and no amount of evidence or logic will ever change it.

[@gerardsanders3225]

Closer to Principal Skinner. "Am I out of touch? No, it's the children that are wrong."

[@Sky_Blaze]

The guy is cluless and I don't understand people still bringing him up.

[@tysonjordanjackson5826]

Old man ummmmms at cloud.

[@patshaf902]

The end is near. Omega turning face, Jim praising him, and now Alvarez is turning against Meltzer

[@frod79]

Ive started investing in mre

[@RolaAddict]

Next thing you know, Hulk Hogan will stop lying and start telling the truth. I think that's the 6th sign of the apocalypse

[@brendandenamadrai5353]

@@RolaAddict Ric Flair leaves a modest tip, sober as a judge.

[@stuartjackson6855]

@@brendandenamadrai5353 He still elbow drops a jacket that just appeared out of nowhere, right?

[@MariuszMroczek-dd7ku]

The asteroid Apophis is coming in mid-April 2029. That's why politics doesn't care, that's why the Corona pandemic was a test run for crowd control, and that's why Bill Gates stole Dave Meltzer's mind.

[@manwithamic2372]

Dave might be the first wrestling journalist with CTE

[@NathanBauman-zj6ip]

'It's almost like he booked this himself', says Last, perfectly.

[@_FaceMelt_]

"It doesn't matter as long as those 1500 ppl react" 😂

[@andystegall7407]

But if it was WWE Dave would say the match wasn't good even if it got a good reaction from the crowd. He says his star ratings are opinion, then cites how many 4-5 star matches a wrestler has as a bellwether of talent

[@MTMuppet]

Dave’s cognitive ability is somewhere between a CTE riddled NFL player, and a newborn baby.

[@gavinalaniz5376]

Its wild that this use to be a joke and now it's actually like he has early onset SOMETHING

[@dansokulski4039]

He’s always been a spaz

[@thegoldenfool]

That's common with most autistics, unfortunately.

[@jackkottwitz5236]

Spaz is a nice word for it

[@jadoc3767]

He got CTE from watching neck bumps

[@cipherpac]

It really does sound like Dave is involved pretty heavily with the booking in AEW. He defends it like he's defending his own poorly thought-out work.

[@neilbiggs1353]

I love how Travis depicts Jim's version of 3D as being the old coloured glasses! Though even that might be a bit modern for Jim...

[@sylvesterstanton7488]

Good grief you got Jim in the silent movie technology, lol

[@romelmunoz7957]

Didn't know the general audience from Jim Cornette's podcast were teenage kids who doesn't know about 3D bicolor glasses...

[@bigjthejoker1306]

The anaglyph glasses are older than Jim

[@isitoveryet9525]

“Well if it’s 3D” 😂 Corny has the best one liners

[@quentinkaasa47]

Only thing that woulda made the artwork better is if Uncle Dave was dressed like Teddy Roosevelt charging San Juan Hill.

[@Mr92094]

AEW is what Dave wants it to be so he can’t criticize it since it would be admitting his vision is wrong

[@thewrestlingoldhead]

Meltzer and Alvarez in a lover's quarrel with Cornette and Last on commentary is cant miss!

[@heisensaul5538]

There was Must See tv back in the day. This is Must Listen youtube.

[@jamezmcc]

Bryan Alvarez's gobsmacked response of "Bronson Reed and Chad Gable??" made me spit out my drink 😂😂

[@liamnguyen2819]

Dave Meltzer in the title of a Jim Cornette video, oh boy loll 🍿🍿

[@greghughes6098]

Just when you think Meltzer has lost all credibility, he manges to drain the cesspool just a little more.

[@ChadVital]

What? He isn't draining the cesspool lol.

[@Pawlacz2137]

They should review Bryan latest INSANE AEW rant, I never heard him shitting on it so much xD

[@toniyakovlev4403]

Watch Bryan break the NDA and sue AEW next because the payments have stopped coming in.

[@romegrey2600]

I don't listen to the guy or follow him at all tbh but whenever i hear him talk about AEW it's more of him shìtting on them then not

[@asurlybarber3620]

The ship is sinking. Alvarez wants to make sure he's on a lifeboat, and I don't blame him.

[@Irgendeinervonunten]

He dont need a lifeboat, he has a golden boat, a boat made out of pure gold

[@al5306]

@@romegrey2600the product sucks

[@andrebdd5818]

As soon as i saw this was 40 minutes i cleared my scheduled and told my kids to go away

[@bidgeon1423]

You have to genuinely start asking if Dave is in the booking Group Chat with Tony Khan.

[@MrSpeed-lt8gr]

For the next Wembley show, they should book Alvarez vs. Meltzer for total control over the Wrestling Observer.

[@robertnapier624]

For maximum lazy booking it needs to be a no DQ match.

[@mickeyd8768]

loser of the match cleans Daves office

[@Jackaljkljkl]

Custody of Lance Storm Ladder Match

[@quentinkaasa47]

That'd be like booking Heath Slater vs. Curtis Axel for total control of the Social Outcasts at WrestleMania 32. 😄

[@Raven34643]

​@@mickeyd8768Underrated comment.

[@starshipfame1]

Meltzer keeps falling deeper into the hole….while digging deeper in it😂😂

[@JoseJoseC626]

Reed vs Gable was heel vs heel. Reed wasn't a face and that was the point to show why both of em are a threat to Sami

[@grossoversight]

Yep. Also, Sami blew up that match for a DQ and was clearly the babyface which helped set up the triple threat match at the PLE. It's like Dave doesn't even get the basics of pro wrestling anymore.

[@rjuniverse7289]

Yes, but here, Gable is a cheezy heel, Reed is an intimidating monster heel(who doesn't rely much on cheap tactics), they both had a match which ended in DQ after Babyface Sami Interfered the match because he has been the target for them for few weeks. The feud isn't a heel vs heel, the feud is a babybace Vs a Cheesy heel Vs a Monster heel. And the thing isn't just about being heel Vs heel, it's about how a babyface is acting like a heel while the heel is acting like a babyface which doesn't make sense and the constant switch between a heel and babyface without a reason. You know the way Tony Khan books, if some face gets booed this week in a match, he will book him as a heel in the next week match, but no explanation, no reason, he is now heel because he was getting booed. If some heel is getting cheered massively despite beating the shit out of another babyface. He will start to book him as babyface next week because crowd are rooting for him because of something. He doesn't bulid the face turn. He doesn't build most of the turns.

[@MattyPeq]

lmao no. Watch Otis as well. Heels and faces don't exist anymore. It's a normal evolution. Dave is actually right.

[@rjuniverse7289]

@MattyPeq Otis is a face being forced to do heelish things by his mentor Gable. He is tied right now because it's his best friend. it's his mentor, who gave him his opportunity in wwe, so he has been left with no choice but to listen. He hasn't turned on him yet because he has a sense of loyalty towards him. That's how sympathetic babyface is built, this will get him even more over as a face. If you can't separate that, then I don't know how you keep up with stories. The day Otis finally hits Gable, he will get a huge reaction. A similar sort of story has been in wrestling since forever, where someone is compelled to do bad things because of his mentor, tutor, but finally, he has enough. There's a reason he is compelled to do heelish things even though he is face when he has to, not like Tony Storm where without a reason someday she becomes face, someday she is heel. Dave has the dumbest take. He can't even give valid reason on why he thinks it is good and why it's not, when he has. He is just a knowledgeable wrestling historian, but the more I listen him the more it becomes clear he is far away from the indepth knowledge of wrestling business psychology. How can people take someone opinions seriously who can't even back up his reason for something he says clearly.

[@rjuniverse7289]

@MattyPeq just look at Wardlow and MJF story, Wardlow was a heel. He was a monster heel under MJF. He then, somewhere on the journey, developed some positivity. He had already become face from his heart, but he couldn't because he was tied with MJF's contract, who is a master manipulator. His contract wasn't with AEW, but with MJF. MJF gave him his job. So, even though MJF kept insulting him and talking smack with him, he had no choice but to listen him. He felt a sense of loyalty towards him. But one day, the MJF crossed that one line, which kept Wardlow with him, and finally, Wardlow got courage and a reason to hit MJF, but at what cost?? He lost his job, but looking at the progress he had done over years, he got an opportunity for a job with a match in aew, if he would win, he would get a job in aew. He won that match and then got signed with AEW . So, he finally, after all the drama, he became free from MJF. That's how Wardlow was built. But then, AEW completely fumbled the booking of Warlow, and now his worth has completely derailed.

[@joshuaDstarks]

Dave is a solid 1/2 star in 2024.

[@MB724evergreeniterraceismine]

He's the drizzling shits.

[@chroniclesofnigeria1358]

NEGATIVE 5 STARS

[@Courtneylynntucker]

No debate negative 5 stars lol

[@SairajRKamath]

1 star if he's broadcasting from the Tokyo Dome.

[@2cpr4]

Which is the same as no stars. So we're all in agreement

[@jrstocker3]

Oh man, I'm not familiar with this story, but I'm confident that the comedy stylings of Dave and Bryan just improved my commute exponentially 😅

[@blackopstrololers]

Get out of hehe mark

[@brianhopson2072]

Dave Meltzer. Aew mental gymnastics champion.

[@Capydachi]

The Brian "IT'S NOT MY JOB" Alverez face turn has been delightful

[@user-rx2hw8up2j]

HE'S NOT A HEEL!!!

[@CadChamberlain]

Meltzer: "Kenny Omega is not portraying a face or a heel" Kenny Omega literally got jumped by the top heel group in his highly anticipated return promo

[@baueranthony54]

Imagine your watching Avengers with Dave and all of a sudden, Thanos is switching between being the villain and the hero. Dave defends it with, "As long as the fight between the Avengers and Thanos is great, does it matter who is the hero or the villain?" tf kinda logic is that? lmfao

[@markdawson7255]

Uncle Dave would argue: "Well DC characters switch between heroes and villains all the time too."

[@jordandennis6794]

​@@markdawson7255 which is hilarious, considering in DC when people go from hero to villain, they usually stay villains

[@josevillarreal5955]

If you had a show where 2 nameless guys in black trunks just did moves back and forth for an hour for absolutely no reason, Dave would say that's a "great show". He LOVES to watch people play fight, with no context or rhyme or reason. He has completely forgotten that the entire reason it's predetermined is to tell a story in order to keep people interested and paying to see the show.

[@sylvesterstanton7488]

Agreed and well said

[@AnneHathawayRules]

Well put

[@meciocio]

Dude, you are watching wrestling and you are making fun of people liking to watch "play fight"? Seems like you have some internal shame in being a wrestling fan and you try to cope in some way

[@AnneHathawayRules]

@@meciocio I think the point he's making is that without the story and the investment in the characters you really are just watching two people play fight.

[@meciocio]

@@AnneHathawayRules how would having a story change the fact that there are two people who "play fight"? lmao. It's like saying that if you remove the story elements from ballet then it's just "silly cringe dancing". It just funny to me all the mental gymnastics some people do to justify themselves on watching and enjoying wrestling.

[@NerdieTurtle]

Bryan’s checks must’ve got lost in the mail due to his honesty for AEW

[@phabiorules]

Nah, he realized that as long as Dave praises them then he still gets paid.

[@loggerbomb]

She was presented as a deer caught in the headlights last week... 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Glad Alvarez is taking Uncle Dave to task too.

[@EvanSchatz]

16:45 whatwhatwhatiswhatwhatiswhat 😂

[@JoseFlores-xc7wu]

The Just For Men got into Dave's brain and rebooted his brain in mid sentence

[@ts-rc9fj]

Okay, NO 😂

[@ad206]

Welcome back to Earth, Mr. Alvarez!

[@Costas22]

This drops 20 minutes into my birthday. Thank you, Corny. ☺

[@danpoutsma1351]

Happy Birthday!

[@terriblecoughing4767]

Happy birthday bro

[@samismith5476]

Happy birthday!

[@malevolent9505]

Happy Birthday

[@sergiod.3239]

Happy bday! Hope you have a great year 🙏

[@BeanMachineYT]

Whole time I’m waiting for “BRYANN!”

[@bipolarminddroppings]

Apparently the viewership for all of wrestling is down right, including podcasts, but the Cult is still growing! 40 mins? Yes, please!

[@myyoutube62]

Another thing that flies over Dave's head: why does Toni Storm need to 'show she can wrestle' before the PPV match? It's not like she just debuted for the company and no one knows who she is or what she can do. She's been in AEW for over 2 years, is a 3x Women's Champion there and before her current gimmick, her whole gimmick for over a year and a half was basically "hot girl who can wrestle good". Going 7 minutes with a nobody doesn't prove she can wrestle; if anything, it shows she's NOT good at wrestling, if it takes her that long to beat a nobody. Logically speaking, why would Deeb -- whose entire gimmick is that she's the best wrestler in the division -- even have to break a sweat to tie Toni into a pretzel and leave with the belt if Harley fucking Cameron was a competitive threat to Storm?

[@genghisslime]

this is gonna be a BANGER.

[@marcussmith6507]

After BANGER

[@BlueBellsRBlue]

After burger 🍔

[@wilcee238]

After BURGER. Wait wrong thread.

[@gullreefclub]

Who is going to be doing the Banging?

[@Courtneylynntucker]

After Burger 🍔

[@paulm1405]

"The crowd is going to do what the crowd is going to do" ...well the crowd is not showing up or watching on TV so🤷‍♂️

[@televiper11]

Part of the reason fans turned on babyface Cena is that soon after he turned, they sanded all the edges off his character.

[@NateLinehan666]

"Let's hear what Dave has to stutter" made me shoot LOL

[@Am0ment0fB]

Ol' marble mouth Meltzer will never convince me, that Moxley wrestled in multiple 5 star matches, yet Angle never got one. But, Meltzer did convince me, of one thing. Cte is contagious. Ha.

[@petebagwell6666]

Perc angle couldn't beat moxley in an amateur wrestling match, moxley is an Olympic level savant and a technical genius who's trained to perfection in every style of combat imaginable, he also does the best interviews and cuts the most badass promos

[@Am0ment0fB]

@@petebagwell6666 he's also the world's best plumber. Ha.

[@nickparsons1245]

That's statement has to be a joke

[@Am0ment0fB]

@@nickparsons1245 no. I think ol marble mouth Meltzer proves cte is contagious. Ha.

[@Am0ment0fB]

Did he do it with a broken freaking neck? Oh wait, no he did it drunk. Ha. ​@@petebagwell6666

[@jeremyhogel7727]

People love Hans Gruber in Die Hard, at no point does that make him a baby face though.

[@Dale-jr7oj]

I thought him falling off nakatomi plaza was a work

[@Jackaljkljkl]

@@Dale-jr7oj Actually, it was a shoot. They dropped Alan Rickman before the countdown was complete, so as to get a genuine fear reaction in his face. He was furious, apparently.

[@ThaEntity69]

Dave meltzers stutter is 5 ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@swishbenoit4489]

I think Bully ray gave him 3.5 😂😂

[@AnneHathawayRules]

Five st-st-st-st-stars

[@ThaEntity69]

@@AnneHathawayRules 5 starts ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@ThaEntity69]

@@swishbenoit4489 😂😂😂

[@scatmandan548]

Would of been a 6 and half star stutter had it been in the Tokyo dome 😂

[@wildwine6400]

Bronson Reed vs Gable was heel vs heel. One is just a bigger heel than the other. I must have missed the part where Bronson Reed was willing the fans on to get behind him and making comebacks and being the babyface in peril selling like Ricky Morton

[@ebransc09]

Last night mega baby face, Reed did a promo basically saying I love to hurt people for moneyyyyyy, brrrrrother

[@zemm9003]

Yeah. They are both heels. Gable is just a level above Reed and the crowd wanted him to lose.

[@NathanBauman-zj6ip]

Both heels, showing they're both threats to face Sami.

[@BBoy4040]

It was also like 2 minutes long when Sami interfered. HORRIBLE example by Dave.

[@Saddler1944]

"ShE's NoT a HeEl!" -Dave Meltzer (in the tone of a 5 year old who was told no when they asked for ice cream.)

[@achromat666]

The main takeaway: just because fans are smarter to the business doesn't mean you abandon what works,, and making excuses for what isn't working helps no one.

[@SandMan1998]

Both Bryans are good guys now

[@mattypaul87]

Brian Alvarez is finally talking about the things that others (including Jim and Brian) have been saying about AEW for a while. He mentioned how the storylines aren't making sense due to lack of clarity. More importantly, he's FINALLY acknowledging a lot of the AEW stars are in the same spot now as they were 5 years ago. His rant on AEW lately has been on the same level as his classic WCW 2000 and WWE 2019 rants.

[@Marcie-eat]

Dave is a solid 1/2 star in 2024

[@Courtneylynntucker]

Bryan Alvarez has finally seen the light

[@jewanon]

Cornette dropping a line from Rush Hour wasn't on the bingo card but damn... bravo!

[@bradleylepper]

15:28

[@chrisr3788]

Feet up, joint lit, ready to listen to Jim blast Dave Meltzer for 40 mins ☺️

[@Am0ment0fB]

Hell yeah, I'm about to smoke a big fat Janice! Ha.

[@isaactalton1504]

damn I'm doing the same thing

[@TheBeatlesMan96]

Smoking a bit fat bong toke myself, cheers

[@chadhardwood5067]

Just made a great guac, rolling my j as we speak. Cheers friends

[@notoriousrjg9257]

Bout to drain this whole cartridge listening to Uncle Dave get shit on

[@d.carpenter7519]

Drew is a TWEENER! Toni is a HEEL! Dave is on the AEW payroll!

[@vb2806]

Dave is also trying to prove he was right but people showed him no one cares about the Indy style he likes

[@BBoy4040]

Drew is a heel if I've ever seen one lol, he's just a heel who doesn't see himself as one

[@d.carpenter7519]

@BBoy4040 Drew is being portrayed as a tweeter. He recently had beef with Damian Priest too. But I'm not here to argue. Muting you, and have a nice day.

[@scottishdanny2432]

My night just went from boring to HELL YES!!!!!

[@AlMoSiCe210]

Alvarez & Meltzer: arguing over the basic details of heel face dynamics for almost 30 minutes. Cornette & Last: arguing over whether a character was a ventriloquist dummy for about a minute or two I love this show 😂😂😂

[@GodotOfficial]

Kenny Omega, Bryan Alvarez, Cornette and Brian Last - the babyface stable that wrestling doesn't deserve but they're the babyface stable that wrestling needs

[@Sky_Blaze]

Kenny is working he's not being serious

[@maxxdahl6062]

@@Sky_BlazeFor what? A match with Dave?

[@elijahchesterthomas5334]

Dave's first argument started with "Well, WWE"... Completely deflecting. Lol. His bias knows no bounds and it's insane he just doesn't admit it. Holy shit, he's supposed to be a reporter. Hilarious to watch his madness and bullshittery progress.

[@mauriziorc6380]

Sherlock Meltz and Alvarass arguing is always top notch entertainment 😂😂😂

[@richardwilliams5387]

Dave's programming is breaking down here. "Does not compute, does not compute!!!".

[@Suq3rst4r]

“I would rather book for success than worry about online criticism.” Alvarez face-turn confirmed.

[@marvinleong5902]

Somewhere, Tony is crying and fearing for his life after this truth

[@frank-bmtz]

Can’t wait for this to become an omnibus later on this year.

[@LongLiveRockAnRoll]

Meltzer "I think about business" We're just gonna let that slide, are we? 😅 This from someone who prefers a 7 star "work rate" match in front of 150 people to Hogan vs Rock at Wrestlemania.

[@Meh57]

The Meltzer VS Alvarez angle is more interesting than anything going on in AEW right now

[@ziweiyuan]

Meltzer sounded for all the world like he was defending a payday. Like he knew Khan was going to hear this and either sign the check or not depending on what was said. And thus this full-throated defense of nonsense.

[@chroniclesofnigeria1358]

Statler and Waldorf are finally going on one on one? 😂😂

[@sbz88]

Tony treats Dave Meltzer's word like it's Gospel, so Dave feels like he has a personal responsibility to always protect AEW and Tony's feelings. Cause WWE doesn't give a fuck about him or his star ratings 😂

[@bcal8118]

Dave is to the point where he has to straight up lie to defend aew

[@JimCornetta]

Uk time 11pm and just got this perfect!!!

[@crashxd1286]

With the amount Dave is stuttering I would have thought he was mushmouth from Fat Albert😂😂😂

[@Lohanginfroot]

"The crotch lock leg strangle" 🤣🤣🤣 Cornette is pure gold.

[@joolsmacgrools1288]

The Guatemalan flying toe hold sent me over the edge. 🤣🤣🤣

[@Lohanginfroot]

@@joolsmacgrools1288 🤣🤣

[@dillondruggz]

Dave's reaction is a combination of a few things: 1. Having legions of smarky, indie-riffic dweebs praise every single thing he's ever said, so he can't handle the slightest bit of counterpoint. 2. Meltzer is absolutely on the AEW payroll and we'll only find that out after either they stop paying him or the company folds.

[@brendanwilliams106]

I just noticed f4w online has a video about how nothing has changed in 5 years of aew 😂.

[@mrowley7300]

Im waiting for Dave to say that storylines don't matter and its only the in ring that matters.

[@ilikepepsi3883]

I put this on to listen to without paying any attention to the thumbnail, and the moment Cornette made the comment about Meltzer being in 3D, I immediately looked to see because I was positive that would be the artwork. 😂

[@johndunne550]

I have a long drive for work tomorrow and I cannot wait to listen to this.

[@Am0ment0fB]

Don't forget. Even though Toni Storm did the character change, she didn't know enough to change up her in ring style. She literally changed nothing about it. Unfortunately, the women's division such trash that nobody can even point that out to her. Ha.

[@BBoy4040]

Right? I thought her moveset was gonna be old school or something, with arm drags and maybe a DDT as her finisher. You're supposed to be from the 1930's but your finisher is a snap piledriver? Or that super flippy DDT she did on Riho? Get tf out of here.

[@Am0ment0fB]

​@@BBoy4040even without the old timey stuff. Just be a heel or a face. It's wrestling 101. Ha.

[@thisisevan1]

Part of the problem, one of many, with Dave Meltzer's argument, is his premise that Toni Storm vs. Harley Cameron was a "very good" match. Except it wasn't. It wasn't a bad match, but it wasn't very good either. It was a fine match. It wasn't offensive to the eyes, it was enjoyable enough on its own merits, but you couldn't / wouldn't reasonably call it a good wrestling match either.

[@michaelmfwayne]

It's not even supposed to be competitive. Toni is the champ. Let Harley Cameron have a competitive match with a Ruby SoHo, or a Kris Statlander. You make your champion look weak when underneath, underdeveloped talent have a "competitive match" with a champ.

[@markcafebrown2883]

DEAR DAVE MELTZLER, RETIRE FROM COVERING PRO-WRESTLING. EVERYONE HAS TO RETIRE AT SONE POINT, YOUR TIME IS NOW YOUR TIME HAS PASSED SIR DAVE

[@NL-fg6it]

Gotta love how Dave says "guess what?" like he's going to drop some sort of game changing truth bomb and then starts speaking nonsense. He does it every 2 minutes 😂

[@abubakrwally805]

I’ll save this for my shift tomorrow

[@Garibaldi1]

"Uncle Dave sinks further and further into the rutabaga of his brain"

[@michaelmullins2991]

Dave Meltzer is Sean Hannity.

[@EwanCumia]

That's not fair to Hannity. Hannity doesn't slur his words, with his tongue hanging out of his mouth.

[@DillyDilly13]

@@EwanCumiaHe only does that during Fox’s Trump Town Halls.

[@billyn7757]

Ive been waiting for this!! Thank You Brian and Corny!!! *edit* Please also Review Brian Alvarez's review of Collision yesterday 5/20. He went OFF about aew. I think Alvarez is in a way seeing the light.

[@SunspotGallery]

Dave Meltzer hurts my fkn brain. First time I ever heard him til now, it's like it's been one LONG, ETERNAL SPEECH.

[@iamdb1990]

I'm a simple man, I see "Jim Cornette Reviews Dave Meltzer & Bryan Alvarez Arguing" and the video being over 30 minutes, I click like lol

[@RobeLifeMusic]

Toni Storm looks good in a silk robe 👘🙌

[@skrilla88]

Geez, I feel like episode 343 is going to be a big one. There's at least 2 hours of material on KZbin.

[@deekdeegler5059]

The passive aggressive “guess what” from Dave is so hilarious