I Can't Show How To Make One, But I Can Show The Parts

I'd much rather post actual builds. but everyone asked for a better view of this one. youtube doesn't allow "how-to" videos for guns. showing the parts doesn't tell you how to make it any more than describing how it work. anyway, hope it helps.

[@theoriginalDirtybill]

looks like my weed pipe from the 90's

[@jimafcarbon4433]

🤓I don't understand the reference 🤓

[@GinCollins007]

You didn't hang on to that?

[@anonymousmc7727]

The 80s

[@MrDoyle07]

Looks like mine from the 70’s.

[@Papa_Grind]

Looks like mine from the 00’s

[@starlessgolightly]

Lovely polishing job. We tip Our hat to your craftsmanship. Beautiful!

[@jimafcarbon4433]

I had just set up a "new to me buffer" had to try it !

[@SandyWolf-]

Definitely cool!

[@RandiGrogger-m5e]

I be journeyman machinist retired thank you

[@RandiGrogger-m5e]

Use a brochure for ruffling

[@RandiGrogger-m5e]

I am looking bang stick 12 gage

[@DFX2KX]

It's both wonderfully crude and very clean at the same time. I'm impressed.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Thanks, These are terrible really. But are also everyone's first build. We should move on to better projects quickly. kzbin.infotfABwm7EyIo?feature=share

[@wadesilvia]

Growing up with a salvage yard, as a family business and being into medieval siege weapons. As a pre-teen/young teenager. I took it upon myself to design and build a very capable and formidable balista. It was made from a 1 ton truck spring leaf, a piece of railroad rail, 1/4" wire rope, a few other pieces and used a cut down and sharpened to a wicked point. Axle out of a Dana rear axle. As a bolt. My grandfather, cut it up with a torch while, I was at school. Told me, not to think of making another one. When, I got home. Lol....

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Lol, the stuff we did as kids. Some never did anything. They are appalled at even the idea that somebody can just make a "weapon". Meanwhile kids on the streets have Chinese glock switches.

[@mw10259]

@@jimafcarbon4433 DID A 410 VERSION OF THIS

[@Ojthemighty]

Your grandad sounds like a tool

[@GaryPayton-w9o]

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[@paaao]

We used to cut tree branches with a good curve and flex, and widdle them down, knotch out the ends, then string it with industrial rubber bands linked together. Next we'd gather quail and other bird feathers, bamboo reeds, and fashion some pretty beautiful arrows. Final step was wedgeing small screws and/or nails in the tip of the bamboo reed. I kid you not, we used to shoot cyotes, ducks, snakes, birds, squirls, and all type of shit around the hills of our homes. This was in SoCal. As kids, we joked that if someone ever tried to kidnap us, we'd get to see how well our arrows worked on humans.

[@jdhdtheabstractanomaly3548]

I’ve already figured it out but this video broke it down step by step if you have a working knowledge of firearms you’ll get it. Much respect my dude wish I still had videos of my 410 mag light it was dope

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Rumble allows true "how-to" videos. There is a complete build on Rumble (jfgmfg) of this one in stainless: kzbin.infowOQOx2p0zpw?feature=share

[@gradyfagan9847]

Now you need to thread the barrel and make a brass "solvent trap" for it.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

I considered it. I have cans I could run on this.

[@2Truth4Liberty]

@@jimafcarbon4433I would hold off a few years - the cases are working through the courts but its a slow going process.

[@MrSilenus12]

How long you been with ATF?

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@2Truth4Liberty I held off for years. After finally jumping through the hoops and getting a few stamps collected, I'm only pissed I didn't do it sooner.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@MrSilenus12 anyone working for ATF or DHS should quit.

[@ienjoyworkingonmuddycars.9793]

I love gimmicky things like this that are actually surprisingly functional

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Thanks, These are terrible really. But they tend to be everyone's first build. We should move on to better projects quickly. kzbin.infotfABwm7EyIo?feature=share

[@Rustyshackleford85]

Alright boys. Time for some reverse engineering.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

KZbin doesn't allow how-to videos for anything firearms related. But there just might be a complete build on Rumble (jfgmfg) of this one in stainless: kzbin.infowOQOx2p0zpw?feature=share

[@Subgunman]

Reminds me of the Braverman Stinger. It will not fire in the pen configuration but will fire only when the pen is opened into its "pistol position".

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Exactly.

[@Lurch-Bot]

ROTFL. This is a Fallout pipe gun next to the Braverman Stinger.

[@miguelcastaneda7257]

We used to make these as kids alot of us lived at salvage yards

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Yeah, I think that's why people like them so much. Kind of everyone's first homemade gun. Now to get them building bigger and better projects!

[@TheRotorhound]

Zip guns.

[@AkSamurai69]

You must have STORIES

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@AkSamurai69 the anecdotes in these comments are the best !

[@kevinfisher466]

now your in portland lmfao

[@psikodelriot6754]

Good old Bolt Action Tools. There are many good tutorials about making real pen guns and match stick guns, with that principle. I seen some guys making definitely deadly ammo for that, out of pop tiles, phosphor from matches and a refilable simple bike valve with killer spike projectile. pew pew

[@jimafcarbon4433]

The match stick guns are sweet. But nail gun blanks and pellets are easy. Or could always go with a Japanese style double barrel shotgun with fireworks and electronic ignition. The countries with the worst restrictions on firearms are the ones who make the best improvised weapons!

[@shinobuoshino5066]

@@jimafcarbon4433 it's almost like restrictions don't solve any problem that's implied to be solved by banning firearms, or sharing knowledge how to make them on places like youtube.

[@izzyplusplusplus1004]

​@@jimafcarbon4433 Shinzo special!

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@izzyplusplusplus1004 exactly ! They are lying that there's anything based in reality for effective gun control when $10 at home depot and an hour in the garage is all it takes to get a firearm.

[@izzyplusplusplus1004]

@@jimafcarbon4433 I personally love propane powered potato launchers.

[@dieselscience]

Welcome to the three letter thug group list, gentlemen.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

If I'm not on a list, are they even trying?

[@dieselscience]

We're all deplorables in the eyes of the stateless elite. @@jimafcarbon4433

[@marcusjohanson1064]

Abolish the ATF

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@marcusjohanson1064 running for office? You have my vote !

[@marcusjohanson1064]

@@jimafcarbon4433 lol, no because my past is too dirty. I've thought about it but I would be destroyed. If I flipped to a dirty demonrat I'd probably fit in perfectly.

[@STEINBVG]

Great little toy. I think they have 45degree plumbing elbow fitting . Would make the handle at a more interesting angle? Like a dueling pistol.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Yeah, the big box stores don't have the best selection of brass fittings.

[@juddlentz1115]

A dual you say!!! 😅

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@juddlentz1115 dammit, gotta make a matched pair, a velvet lined mahogany box with brass accents.

[@CMDR.Gonzo.von.Richthofen]

​@@jimafcarbon4433 That would be awesome😂

[@Biokemist-o3k]

Sweet!! Anything that could be made from scrap is always cool...

[@jimafcarbon4433]

These are terrible really. But everyone's first build. We should move on to better projects quickly. kzbin.infotfABwm7EyIo?feature=share

[@Biokemist-o3k]

@@jimafcarbon4433 I am a chemical engineer and I love building things. I am starting a YT channel as soon as it gets warmer here in PA where I can get out to the barn. I am recovering from getting hit and run over on my 1957 Harley Panhead so I will be laid up for a while. (had my right leg nearly crushed in two). I am starting a build of a 1928 Morgan Aero Brooklands edition racer. Similar to a Pembleton T24. I am gearing up to cast aluminum for different adapters. That being said I purchased a revolver lifecard toy. I am thinking about casting it out of aluminum and inserting a rifled barrel and see how things turn out. I will let you know how things go.. You sound like you are from Pa also...

[@martinswiney2192]

What about putting a second notch about 1/4” back from the firing pin lowered position with sort of a Sten style J notch in it to keep the firing pin off the loaded round? Just a thought.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

That is a good idea for sure. I thought about a piece through the body into the breech, turn it a few degrees and the firing pin couldn't come through. Or like a bolt action trigger holding the firing pin.

[@600wheel]

If you buy a flare launcher you will notice it looks almost exactly like this and has all the parts in it to make one of these except it doesn’t have the barrel but it’s very easy to add and they also give you the option of centerfire or rimfire if you’re feeling froggy one day

[@robinschaff980]

🤔 that could work. Well, actually. Hmmm…bet!

[@ChiefBangarang]

You're a National Treasure Mate! Firm🤝Handshakes

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Thank you sir. This was supposed to be the starting point. Then something a little more respectable kzbin.infotfABwm7EyIo?feature=share

[@ChiefBangarang]

@@jimafcarbon4433 😅👏👏

[@CalamityHillMusic]

Mate ? You dont help yourself do you.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@CalamityHillMusic mate

[@CalamityHillMusic]

@@jimafcarbon4433 what

I got brass in a pocket I got bottle, I'm gonna use it Intention, I feel inventive Gonna make you, make you, make you notice ... 🤣 .... Shades of memories from 1966 when my older brother was assembling these in our basement..... Shall not be infringed

[@jimafcarbon4433]

We have much better options today, but never a bad time to get back to basics. ..

[@peterbedford6769]

top notch reply mate love it

[@staceepayne8787]

​@@jimafcarbon4433I'd rather you make me one! Its cute!

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@staceepayne8787 DIY firearms are just that, do it YOURSELF. In the US, to make firearms for others, a firearms manufacturing license is required.

[@Lurch-Bot]

By the time he assembles his pipe gun, he's already bleeding out on the floor. I can't even imagine what it is like to be this completely clueless to engineering principles or tactical realities. Not to mention, a brass gun isn't strong enough for any modern cartridge and that includes most .22lr. All about chamber pressure.

[@jyack275]

The threaded insert for the firing pin guide is such a good one.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Thajns. Kinda required in my mind.

[@Pootycat8359]

The best device for making one of those (a "stinger") is one of those small, pen-like, flair guns. I knew a gunsmith who made one, that way, for .32 S&W Long.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Oh I like me some home made 32 s&w !

[@Lurch-Bot]

Great way to piss off someone. I have a .32 S&W brass sitting right in front of me. You're talking about 70 ft-lbs (for the 'long', ROTFL) and there are medium bore repeating airguns these days which are about 3x as powerful. regular .32 S&W can be put to shame by an inexpensive .22 PCP airgun or the slowest of modern .22LR rounds. I saw an episode of Cops back in the early '90s where a guy had been shot with a .25 auto and I've bled more from a paper cut. That's the kind of stopping power you're talking about. Gadgets like these are mostly a placebo for people like OP who think this is actually going to be a self defense tool. I'd rather carry an 1851 Colt with a 3" barrel. Would be more useful.

[@Pootycat8359]

@@Lurch-Bot The published energy for the ,32 S&W Long is 124 ft*lbs, but that's from a "test gun," so who knows what it would be out of a puny stinger barrel. But the usual way of employing a stinger is to shove it up against a vital area. In that case, almost anything will do the job. Incidentally, in the old days, many small police departments issued .32s to their officers, instead of .38s, because the ammo was cheaper. It's certainly no real stopper, but I'd rather have one instead of a .22 LR or .25 ACP. I think the .22 WRM is better than any of those.

[@MrJRW1]

I like it! 👍 That would be a great addition to an emergency kit for wilderness trips etc

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@MrJRW1 hopefully, we never find ourselves in that type of emergency.

[@sonnyboysoprano]

My Teacher said I wouldn't be anything but a Construction Worker! She was Right. I dropped out of High School at 15 to be a Plumber. I made more money as a 1st Year Appreciate than my "Dumb Teacher". Its been 25 years since then and Own 3 Companies, 4 Work Trucks (Ford Ecoline, obviously) etc. etc. Residential,commercial,industrial. Fuck School.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Now convince everyone else. College indoctrination is overrated.

[@stewartmcpherson5943]

Awesome man. More people should go into trades.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@stewartmcpherson5943 I couldn't agree more !

[@harryhoudini2645]

I quit school in the 80s to be a Carpenter and was making 26 an hour in the 80s

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@harryhoudini2645 those kids who graduated with a liberal arts degree thank you for your tax money and blame you and the unions for them barely making $40k/yr now.

[@jamesdugan9764]

you sound just like a young jim carrey. its you right? i just knew you were one of us jim, love all your work and stay real man.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@jamesdugan9764 I'm not that funny

[@chipkaegi]

I love how you say make something cooler than this. That is cool cause after you’re done shooting you’re taking it apart then you know you can put some cigarette tobacco on the other end and you have a little pi. Of course you already know that we used to make them and shoot eighth grade, it’s that other piece. I guess you have to machine that yourself the piece and then the part that goes in the barrel to make it rifled. I’m not sure how you acquire that.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

KZbin doesn't allow how-to videos for anything firearms related. But there just might be a complete build on Rumble of this one in stainless: kzbin.infowOQOx2p0zpw?feature=share

[@Lurch-Bot]

You really wouldn't want to smoke out of something that has a bunch of lead and gunpowder residue in it. smoking is harmful enough as it is. But because the general consensus is that this looks like a pipe, OP actually DID make an AOW. ATF could use this comment section at OP's trial to secure a conviction. Smoking pipe gun, pen gun, cane gun, all legally considered an AOW, regardless of whether the barrel is rifled. This is what happens when you can do a bit of machining and think that you must automatically know how the law works. People literally have to go to school for 3 years to learn how to interpret the law correctly. I don't even understand why you'd make this a cartridge gun. You get one shot and you won't get a chance to reload and take another. If it were BP, there would be zero legal issues. It is obviously too large a bore to be .22 and anything bigger, with a smokeless powder load, doesn't belong in a brass gun. In fact, if it were .22, you would want to use the weakest target load on the market. modern .22LR can give up to 200ft-lbs energy which is the same as a .38 Spl. And it will have to produce higher pressures in the process.

[@noeaguinaga4018]

If you can't look at it and see what it is.. it's brass pipe and fittings. Obviously it's a 22 gauge bullet. Look how much brass is on each side(how thick the walls are) measure a 22 bullet guesstimate judging by its size . I would say take the width of three 22 bullets and that would be the thickness I f the fittings. A 22 is roughly 5.6 -5.7mm. Multply by 3. Look at the video , try and reference his hand size by something on the desk.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Too many people don't realize youtube is extremely anti-gun. They do not allow how-to videos for firearms related content. People are used to being able to find a how-to video detailing step by step processes for building or fixing everything. These videos do exist for guns, just not on youtube. Rumble (jfgmfg) just might have a complete build video.

[@Lurch-Bot]

A 22 gauge bullet would be around 0.6 inches diameter. You mean .22 caliber, which would be around 230 gauge. The bigger the gauge number, the smaller the bullet and it isn't a linear scale either. You can say 0.22 caliber, 0.22 bore but not 0.22 gauge.

[@scatmanjohn895]

All I want to know is where you get the barrel insert from the rest is easy

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Brownells is the easiest. They sell em in 25" lenghts

[@brandon152lee]

@@jimafcarbon4433can you please give a link or tell me the exact part to search for?

[@gregnewman7516]

Aliexpress

[@daveberg3911]

@@gregnewman7516 what is it called specifically on aliexpress?

[@wimaak]

​@@gregnewman7516 Hi. Would you be so kind and drop what shoud I look for? NotEnglish native here, got some dificulties ti find proper thingie

[@jameshowell1214]

I would create a notch as a safety and a dimple as a passive safety, just to make it so the screw can be locked back, or held in place so it wont slip and you can keep the pin away from the primer.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@jameshowell1214 good idea. Probably a million ways to improve, but These are terrible really. But they are typically everyone's first build. We should move on to better projects quickly. Professor Parabellum offers a few examples kzbin.infotfABwm7EyIo?feature=share

[@gazwild438]

Innovative ❤. ❤❤❤❤ T.24 ❤❤❤❤ all the way from Uk. Your new home owner of the WH 24 will be so proud of you. I am amazed at your videos as in the overtaken uk 🇬🇧, we can’t do things like this. New subscriber right here, admire your work. True craftsmanship ❤

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Thank you. Half the comments from Europe are "stupid Americans and their guns" and the other half are "I'm so jealous, we can't do that here"

[@gazwild438]

@@jimafcarbon4433 ♥️ so innovative, the way 🇺🇸 is now, there’s no other way. Peace to you dude. Love your content.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@gazwild438 for now, we're lucky. We have the luxury of affordable and practical weapons. We can make improvised weapons for fun and novelties. There may come a time when we gotta do what we gotta do. If nothing else, get 3d printer. FGC-9 kzbin.infoloazs10CxhE?feature=share

[@jimafcarbon4433]

KZbin F'd up my comment.

[@gazwild438]

@@jimafcarbon4433 thank you so much for the information. Much love from across the pond 🇬🇧 🇺🇸 ♥️

[@CoolClearWaterNM]

Aw hell. We used to make these when I was working in a diesel shop to pay for my college. Long nights, no jobs coming in, 5 mechanics; all sorts of fun things tended to occur.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@CoolClearWaterNM Half the comments are: OMG, what if a kid sees this video then makes one!? The other half are: We made a bunch of these as kids !

[@kirkwaggoner7328]

The right angle fitting with male and female threads is called a "Street El" (elbow). Most of the ones I've seen are bigger and cast iron or steel. Nice polishing job!

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Thsnks. I prefer the streets elbows, most are "smoother profiled" than this one. I've had a new to be buffer sitting around not being used for 2 years. I finally got it mounted where I could use it. This is their first thing I polished with it. I do have some stainless parts which may or may be assembled into something similar. I am hoping that will polish nicely too.

[@keithmccormack6248]

Brings a new meaning to lead free brass!

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Lead dispenser

[@SenerSke]

That's awesome bruh 💯 first time i ever saw one of these made was in the county jail back when i was a buck lol one of the old heads that worked maintenance would make all types of stuff just 🤯

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Half the comments are: OMG, what if a kid sees this video then makes one!? The other half are: We made a bunch of these as kids !

[@bobgoodnight-fox9762]

All i need say is ....excellent job!

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Thanks, these are everyone's first build. We should move on to better projects quickly. kzbin.infotfABwm7EyIo?feature=share

[@georgecypher4568]

I am diggin' this ......... would never even think it was one if i saw it .... Thanx for the info !

[@jimafcarbon4433]

$15 at your local plumbing supplier and an hour in the garage you can have one too. It's just proof of how cheap and easy it is to make a functional gun. Even if there were no gun parts available.

[@Lurch-Bot]

This would make a great pipe. As a defensive firearm, it leaves way too much to be desired.

[@rickywoodcock7222]

Zip Gun 🔫 😎 Nice work as always Jim

[@jimafcarbon4433]

I'd like to think I'm above zipguns, yet here we are 🤦‍♂️

[@mikedogg313]

​@@jimafcarbon4433can you tell us where to get the parts at least

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@mikedogg313 Just go to your local gun, I mean hardware store. kzbin.info30pkHmGq0bQ?feature=share

[@Miniscapes515]

I made something that looked like that from similar brass parts when I was in high school. Was used for something else though.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

If you're saying what i think you're saying, you're the first one to mention that.

[@zombiebiker5581]

What would that be, from uk Just wondering.

[@davidsnyder3799]

@@zombiebiker5581 Probably something he made for Mary. Pretty popular. Seems to get around. Maybe you know her. I think the last name was Jane.

[@zombiebiker5581]

@@davidsnyder3799 Ahh i see, I've ever doe but i know what you mean, cheers

[@Lurch-Bot]

OP really messed up. You can't make a cartridge gun in the US that looks like a smoking pipe unless you pay a tax and register it as an AOW. It is obvious most people think it looks like a pipe. I've been into shooting sports for most of my life and even I wouldn't immediately think this was a gun. It would take holding it in my hand and taking it apart to realize what it really is and I'm certified to work on comercial aircraft and space rockets. Federal law is clear about this being an AOW.

[@TheCrimson173]

looks like one of my old weed pipes from the 90's...... kinda funny, didn't see the post below mine till now...lol

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Some would say, dual purpose

[@Kakakakakakakakakakakaka684]

Beautifully crafted honestly and I have no idea what any of this is🤣😂

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Me too, just a couple of 🤓🤓

[@nathanwest4670]

Very nice build man. In Canada that were allowed smooth bores provided the person had the restricted license they could build one of these and make a smooth bore. Although that makes it less accurate too. Unless you're talking rat shot then it's a little bit more accurate. So actually a legal Canadian version of this could have a rifled barrel and then easily swap it out to a smoothbore barrel depending if you're firing rat shot or not.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Not many gun laws that make sense.

[@nathanwest4670]

@@jimafcarbon4433 especially in Canada. But everywhere. I swear in this country they're trying to disarm their citizens

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@nathanwest4670 power knows not but more.

[@Lurch-Bot]

OK, do you live in a post-apocalyptic wasteland? This would be underpowered even for a rat.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@Lurch-Bot not yet, but its better to know how to make something now rather than try to learn when it's your only option. 22 certainly has its place. Might be the liberator of the 3rd WW. Aka, the gun you use to get a gun. But no, really, I just like guns and making stuff. Putting the two together makes it even better.

[@NativelyBornAmerican]

My understanding is that rim fired guns are exempt from the shotgun rules. Also, SBR rules wouldn’t apply since it’s not designed, nor can it be, shot from the shoulder.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Smooth bore would still place under NFA regulation. The ATF says that in order for a pistol to be legal and unregulated(meaning that it won't need to be registered & taxed as an 'any other weapon under the NFA rules), the pistol must have these 3 characteristics: 1. A grip extending at a downward angle from the bore. 2. The barrel must be rifled 'sufficiently to impart a spin on the projectile. 3. The weapon must be designed, built and intended to be fired with one hand.

[@NativelyBornAmerican]

​@jimafcarbon4433 so, I'm guessing all the rim fire smooth bore .22 long guns we shot in boy scouts were illegal. 😂

[@jimafcarbon4433]

They're fine as long as they have an 18" barrel. that's the regs for a shotgun. they still make some today, called garden guns for ratshot shells.

[@Lurch-Bot]

Caliber is irrelevant. If the barrel is under 18.5" or the gun is less than 26" overall length, is smoothbore and fires a cartridge, it is an AOW. If you make a gun and feature it on YT, the majority are saying 'looks like a pipe' and takes a cartridge, it is an AOW. The ATF will not even have to work hard to prove that most people wouldn't recognize it as a gun because it is all right here in the comments. Doesn't matter if it is rifled or not.

[@Lurch-Bot]

@@jimafcarbon4433 You really need to understand that, while you can read the law, you clearly have zero concept of how it is actually interpreted in practice. Also, you haven't read nearly enough or you wouldn't have posted this unregistered AOW on YT. It isn't even a matter of ATF rulings. It is all right there in black and white in the CFR.

[@AlbiesProductsOnline]

If you added a slotted hole inline with the breach plug you could add a thin disk with a piece that sticks out of that slot and put a hole in the disk so when you rotate the disk with the piece sticking out of the slot you can line you the breach hole or block it off then you will have a safety switch

[@jimafcarbon4433]

That's a good idea. There's a few ways to improve, but these are terrible really. They are typically everyone's first build though. We should move on to better projects quickly. Professor Parabellum offers a few examples kzbin.infotfABwm7EyIo?feature=share

[@camojoe83]

You go get a hundred bucks each out of these at a gun buyback, run em straight out of money with 3 hardware store trips if you make a rifling slug to hammer thru the "barrels" right in the parking lot.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Hell yeah ! kzbin.info_wMiyTdWCd0?si=05M2DNQW_KTSeJsh

[@Rashed1255]

Yea keeping those dangerous plumbings off the streets while making stonks 😎

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@Rashed1255 it's funny, people see these and thing about "dangerous weapons on the streets" meanwhile all the kids are running around with Chinese Glock Switches!

[@Rashed1255]

@@jimafcarbon4433 forget the illegally obtained Glock switches, what about the cheap plumbing? Why don’t u require a license for that??

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@Rashed1255 ATF running background checks at The Home Depot.

[@karnovtalonhawk9708]

G'day all. Just an idea but you could put a rotating ring with a slit in it like on an opinel knife as a safety. that way you could cock it place your round and not worry about it going off until you twist the ring out of the way. Just a thought. Nice build though. Not something I could do here in Australia, hell some states slingshots are illegal. But all guns especially hand guns very hard to get a licence for and homemades are a way to get yourself a all expenses paid extended government holiday :P

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Good idea! Proves the ol saying, people in countries with the worst restrictions on firearms are the ones who make the best improvised weapons!

[@karnovtalonhawk9708]

@@jimafcarbon4433 I am into making armour and swords myself a nit of bow and some stone napping. but used to be a stonemason. I like simple machines anyone can make. But its all just simple principles with newer innovations and tools really at the end of the day. Also I don't mind our gun laws I can still get one if I want, just not any type I want. Bows on the other hand still legal everywhere, which again is weird considering slingshots aren't in 3 of our 7 states. Anyways thanks for the reply nice to know I can still have a idea at all let alone a good one :P

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@karnovtalonhawk9708 that's a labor of love. I've never had the patience to try making flint or glass arrowheads. But I've seen it done. Primitive, sure, but very effective.

[@ronaldhall2489]

Looks kinda like a weed pipe

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Some would say dual purpose

[@bravocarlos1752]

😂

[@ThePursuitofHappiness1988]

I’d really like to build myself one of these. It’d be a big help if I could get some guidance on what exact parts I need.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@ThePursuitofHappiness1988 KZbin doesn't allow how-to videos for anything firearms related. But there just might be a complete build on Rumble (jfgmfg) of this one in stainless: kzbin.infowOQOx2p0zpw?feature=share

[@ThePursuitofHappiness1988]

@@jimafcarbon4433 what is rumble? Do you have a link to that particular site?

[@ThePursuitofHappiness1988]

@@jimafcarbon4433 you should build a Luty sub… please! I have the manual to build it, if you want a copy.

[@tenlittleindians]

No rifling does not classify it as a shotgun. Smooth bore pistols such as the Tower Flintlock have been in existence long before the ATF decided they can make up rules as they feel. Smooth bore rifles were also a thing for over 100 years before the ATF were around. Often called muskets the reality is most didn't have rifling in the beginning.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Muzzle loaders and black powder are not firearms. A smoothbore firearm is by definition a shotgun. Whether it be a shotgun, short barreled shotgun or AOW depends on its other characteristics. All together different than primitive weapons and muzzle loaders.

[@tenlittleindians]

@@jimafcarbon4433 I suggest you look up the definition of firearm in the dictionary rather than rely on warped ATF descriptions. A firearm is defined as a rifle, pistol or other portable gun. When the 2nd Amendment was written that's the definition that was used.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@tenlittleindians legally.

[@evanf1443]

“Smooth bore rifle” is an oxymoron. What makes a rifle a rifle is that the barrel is rifled.

[@tenlittleindians]

@@evanf1443 Oh really? I guess by your definition all handguns made today are rifles because they have rifled barrels.

[@resist_or_die]

lmao that's the prettiest one i've ever seen. i'm dyin. you gotta gold plate that thing and mark it DE .0050 or something 🤣

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Polished turd, lipstick on a pig

[@Friedbrain11]

I can see how it works and how to build it just by seeing it. Not complicated at all.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Good. You wouldn't believe how many people as for plans or a how to video. KZbin doesn't allow how to videos for guns. They've taken down videos and gave me strikes for videos that just showed internals. Not even close to instructional.

[@MrProfit420]

Do you have a link for the parts? Also maybe if you left a link to another site or a pdf that would not be breaking the rules would it? Or maybe if you sent the directions for making it to my private email, that would be super awesome!

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@MrProfit420 KZbin doesn't allow how-to videos for anything firearms related. Rumble and Odysee respect the 1st and 2nd amendments. There is a complete build video on my Rumble (jfgmfg) of this one in stainless kzbin.infowOQOx2p0zpw?si=YRdVsKGKnNx0C7HJ

[@dgsean9775]

Pure genuis. Although seems inferior to what you can 3D print right now.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

You're right! But both have their place. I think we should all know and be well informed in every option. If nothing else, they're just plain fun. FGC-9 kzbin.infoloazs10CxhE?feature=share

[@izzyplusplusplus1004]

​@@jimafcarbon4433fgc!

[@adidaniel2975]

nice job man looks great

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Thanks, These are terrible really. But everyone's first build. We should move on to better projects quickly. kzbin.infotfABwm7EyIo?feature=share

[@bioniclife]

OooWee....nice and shiny! 👍

[@jimafcarbon4433]

I built a new stand for my buffer Saturday. Didn't do a video on that one, but I had to try it out !

[@jasont80]

That's impressive! It seems like it would take some messing to get that timing perfected.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Not much. They're pretty easy. The only reason to make one is for ease.

[@bandanabanana3162]

​@jimafcarbon4433 can you send me a parts list or a link to buy the stuff through a direct message?

[@Speedysun132]

Nice work man

[@jimafcarbon4433]

I'd much rather post actual builds. But everyone likes these. Everyone's first build has some appeal I guess.

[@Speedysun132]

@@jimafcarbon4433 sure does

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@Speedysun132 I'm just here to inspire others to take on a build of their own. Whatever works !

[@Speedysun132]

@@jimafcarbon4433 in my country it's actually very illigal to make stuff like this. But I still do it

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@Speedysun132 countries with the worst restrictions on firearms are the ones who make the best improvised weapons!

[@vortexecho72]

James bond the man with the golden gun comes to mind

[@jimafcarbon4433]

The budget version, instead of a cigarette case, pen and a lighter, we dismantled the dishwasher.

[@roberthargrave3636]

When you unscrewed the handle section it looks like a weed pipe 😂

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Not following... 🤓🤓🤓

[@MichaelMike-mu3fw]

My grandpap had a 22 pen gun back in the 70’s basically same thing without the handle

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Some of those old pen guns are pretty collectible.

[@Lescouflair]

Well, you could link to other platforms and teach us, right?

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Rumble is your friend. Look for JFGMFG

[@grancitodos7318]

As a kid I had a flare launcher that was very similar, and a .22 round fitted in the spent flare.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Half the comments are: OMG, what if a kid sees this video then makes one!? The other half are: We made a bunch of these as kids !

[@Sum-kj8jo]

​@@jimafcarbon4433no wonder youngenz theese days ,rember Kevin McAllister....

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@Sum-kj8jo lol

[@podpalacz]

drill a through hole between bolt and breech block for a cotter pin with key ring on it , it will serve as a safety during loading and carrying. stay safe and carry on.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

While I won't argue, "it could be made safer" I suggest moving on to more respectable builds. kzbin.infotfABwm7EyIo?feature=share

[@kirkbolas4985]

How do you set the headspace on something like this?

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@kirkbolas4985 the barrel threads into the breech face. When it's hand tight, it's good enough.

[@arthurneddysmith]

5:09 "... and of course kids like playing with homemade guns."

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Yes they do! It's up to the adults in their lives to ensure they are exposed in a safe and educational manner. Not teaching them safety and pretending it will never happen is planning for failure. Not just talking firearms here. Be actively present in kids lives.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

💯

[@n8dizzel4shizzel]

God bless America

[@jimafcarbon4433]

FREEDOM

[@javiersaucedo7471]

​@jimafcarbon4433 where do I buy the parts

[@AnthonyMartinez-it2qy]

Amen

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@javiersaucedo7471 Just go to your local gun, I mean hardware store. kzbin.info30pkHmGq0bQ?feature=share

[@phillipmoreno9140]

Clean that's all I can say.. Im not good on building anything . Im 64yr and would like 2 have 1.. Keep Safe and God Bless..

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@phillipmoreno9140 thank you. These are terrible really. But they are typically everyone's first build. Even with basic tools, these are not difficult. We should move on to better projects quickly. Professor Parabellum offers a few examples kzbin.infotfABwm7EyIo?feature=share

[@cassaxiom8019]

technically speaking you can make videos on each individual part just not the assembly

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Don't be giving away my secrets !

[@cassaxiom8019]

@@jimafcarbon4433 🤣

[@jimafcarbon4433]

there's a build video on Rumble now

[@Lurch-Bot]

So I can post a video on refining uranium in a centrefuge but I can't show it in the bomb?

[@tonywinters7189]

I get the point about not being able to explain How to Make this device, but can you provide the actual nomenclature for each of the parts and where you purchased them??? Thank You

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@tonywinters7189 Just go to your local gun, I mean hardware store. kzbin.info30pkHmGq0bQ?feature=share KZbin doesn't allow actual how-to videos for anything firearms related. But there just might be a complete build on Rumble (jfgmfg) of this one in stainless, because they don't hate us like youtube does. kzbin.infowOQOx2p0zpw?feature=share

[@ckckkocak]

how much od/diameter tube&long?

[@jimafcarbon4433]

It's all NIP pipe sizes. Barrel is 1/8", body is all 1/4 pipe and fittings. Lengths are dealer's choice.

[@Kshthymyla]

The Man with the Golden Zipgun

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@Kshthymyla budget bond !

[@Wither_Strike]

Question, what ammo does it take with such a small chamber?

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Stsndard 22 long rifle.

[@wcx13casper]

Obviously a 45 😂

[@masaokakihara9316]

Tell me you're not a gun nut, without telling me you're not a gun nut..

[@GinCollins007]

That's cute but I prefer to carry my Glock 19 or HK or sometimes my Sig, you just get more bang for the buck, of course I have a carry permit, glad you asked.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

I bounce between a G19 (or clone) and a sig p365. But in the free part of the world, while it remains so, we have the luxury of making homemade improvised weapons as novelties rather than necessities. Proving training for the worst can still be fun !

[@jamesmartinez991]

I would rather smoke weed out of those parts, but it is a really smart design.

[@aaftiyoDkcdicurak]

Make it multi purpose

[@jimafcarbon4433]

These are terrible really. But everyone's first build. We should move on to better projects quickly. kzbin.infotfABwm7EyIo?feature=share

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@TheLoveBoat069 I don't smoke, never did more than a few times, haven't in 25 years. But I still think it probably isn't any worse than alcohol. But I also think felons who served their time should get their 2a rights back. Don't put me in charge of making laws...

[@WN_Byers]

@TheLoveBoat069 you're an American that doesn't believe in personal freedom. Got it

[@jimafcarbon4433]

One thing we Americans are good at is pushing everything to the extreme. But if we're going to push something as far as we can, my vote is for liberty and freedom. I believe the ol guy yelling "get off my lawn" doesn't give a sh!t about his grass. He just doesn't want you and what you do affecting him and certainly doesn't want it in his personal space. Otherwise, carry on, you do you !

[@thehomiepatchez]

A master craftsman. I tip my hat to you sir.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Thanks, these are terrible, really. But they tend to be everyone's first build. We should move on to other more respectable projects quickly. kzbin.infotfABwm7EyIo?feature=share

[@theentity9120]

I was about to ask you for the 160th time 😂thanks for sharing. That’s badass

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@theentity9120 a fair shake over 160 by now. I haven't kept count, but I "try" to reply to all. Some are copy and paste responses because the same question is asked many times over. Thanks for hitting the algorithm

[@theentity9120]

@@jimafcarbon4433 no worries brother I appreciate you 🔫🇺🇸

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@theentity9120 🇺🇲👁❤️👻🔫🇺🇲

[@mannyphantom0]

Pipe Pistol from Fallout 4

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@mannyphantom0 If nothing else, all of these end of world video game meme gun builds are practice for the worst-case case scenario.

[@harzallahyanis6784]

I think if he choose a title like your comment the video would've passed the million vues❤

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@harzallahyanis6784 you're probably right. I get a LOT of fall out comments

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@harzallahyanis6784 might make one that looks a little more like it and use that title just to see.

[@jasondillon2567]

"I can't show you how to make it." Proceeds to take it apart, explaining each detail. Play video in reverse - - tadaaa.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@jasondillon2567 🤓🤓

[@craigfinley2507]

Your the best professor 🤓

[@jimafcarbon4433]

I'm just a 🤓 with tools and time. Not enough of either.

[@jgb5814]

Kids we made em in wood shop for the handles and took metal shop for metal parts 12 -20 gage shot guns 4 parts to it much easier to make

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Half the comments are: OMG, what if a kid sees this video then makes one!? The other half are: We made a bunch of these as kids !

[@graffics7665]

I literally just got off federal probation for having a glock switch. Why does the devil always beat the angel on the other shoulder?!? Oh well- new sub here!

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Exactly. People are worried about a single shot 22 when most kids on the street have full auto stolen glocks.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@kingfuqurmahmen6792 all depends on the situation. With training, full auto can be very effective. Shoot 1k or more a few times a year and you'll be surprised how well you can do with it. But most in the military are not sufficiently trained. Many froze up and emptied magazines with full auto not hitting anything and not prepared to reload. Rather than training (which is not easy) they just made the 3 round burst. Which mostly failed. Most today went back to full auto but train to use semi. Poor compromise, but when they're training masses, they have to train to the lowest common denominator. But for civilians, train, train and train some more. Unless you don't have a life otherwise, you will not train too much. Be humble. I know I don't have the best equipment and I'm not trained as I'd like to be. But I also have a career, family, hobbies and responsibilities. So keep it all in perspective. Most street kids withbswitches are just intimidating with noise and not hitting anything.

[@graffics7665]

@kingfuqurmahmen6792 I chose to order the switch & didn't have any plans with it whatsoever. Someone just told me about it (they got one without any trouble at all) I actually ordered 2. I recieved one but never got the 2nd one. That's when I found out it was a no-no. But when the 2020 riots & shit went down I told my lawyer, "this is why I ordered it- for times like this.. people are rioting & looting with the police not able to do much at all. What if a mob came to my house with my wife & children here? I think that would be quite effective".. I'm just glad the judge saw that I wasn't up to no good & gave me only probation. (He was appointed by Reagan!!) Not to mention I used to be up to no good & already had 4 felonies under my belt so I wasn't supposed to have any type of firearms. I got lucky.

[@warrenthomas1253]

I like the 90% angle piece added to enable a handle and the rifling inside your barrel is a nice upgrade. Did you say what it was chambered for.

[@grancitodos7318]

It is rim fire so most likely .22.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Yup, 22lr

[@warrenthomas1253]

Thanks, that's what I figured. I've seen people do it in 9mm but that's probably pushing it.

[@grancitodos7318]

@@warrenthomas1253 22 magnum is a good round, and a reasonable price. I was shown a 22 walking stick by a gunsmith in Panama, it had a safety clip, which when released, it fired by prodding someone, and it had a long barrel, so had good velocity. He also showed me a flare launcher like I had as a kid, but with a 1 1/2 inch barrel, the nice thing was it had a clip and looked like a pen, so it could be in your shirt pocket.

[@LeroyBigBoy]

Shake n Bake 🤘

[@jimafcarbon4433]

These have a strange appeal !

[@money7038]

Most I ever did was make a cross bow out of pencils and pens also rubber bands I’m pretty sure some tape as well If im not mistaken , I was 12 y/o at the time lol

[@jimafcarbon4433]

I made one of these around that age. It wasn't as nice nor as reliable. But I didn't use $1000's of tools then either

[@GvMainberg]

It's beautiful!

[@jimafcarbon4433]

These are terrible really. But everyone's first build. We should move on to better projects quickly. kzbin.infotfABwm7EyIo?feature=share

[@paulmeynell8866]

Do you unscrew the barrel to load it ? The liner do you just bore out to a dimension then press fir the liner?

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Yes and yes.

[@CKILBY-zu7fq]

When the law fails your rights, you do as the word VIGILENCE means, you take the law into your own hands but dont break it, except. have any wepon you want by law because there is not difference in what a set of arms means in the only laws of America. Build and use whatever you want and dint give up your rights to hired tyrants , they are to be rem I ved by law.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

We have the luxury of making improvised weapons as novelties for fun. Because the necessities are already well covered. But there may come a day. The countries with the worst restrictions on firearms are the ones who make the best improvised weapons!

[@friend.of.a.friend2762]

I appreciate the effort put into the final "product", I notice that you, sir, are quite talented... tell me, please, my wife is missing a few screws in her head, do you have an email where I can send you the designs of all the screws that are missing... 😂😂😂😂

[@jimafcarbon4433]

KZbin doesn't allow how-to videos for anything firearms related. Rumble and Odysee respect the 1st and 2nd amendments. There is a complete build video on my Rumble (jfgmfg) of this one in stainless kzbin.infowOQOx2p0zpw?si=YRdVsKGKnNx0C7HJ

[@jimafcarbon4433]

But if you do want to get in touch with me, DM on Instagram is easiest.

[@friend.of.a.friend2762]

@@jimafcarbon4433 sorry, I'm not using any of "social network", I just hate them... but still admiring your work... keep it up...

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Completely understand. I'm only here in hopes of inspiring others to take on a build of their own.

[@Trilliagan4727]

I legitimately thought from the thumbnail that it was some kind of smoking apparatus.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Some would say, dual purpose.

[@sbtiger556]

They have us all on lists. Wear it as a badge of honor. You won’t know you’re on it. It’s a rating system in which the higher the score the higher the perceived threat. Ask me how I know

[@jimafcarbon4433]

I kinda feel like if we're not on a list, are they even doing their job?

[@davidflint9591]

There are so many lists, that not being on a list, is a very short list.

[@chhansen9813]

Is this Ted Cruz?

[@jimafcarbon4433]

You mean Lil Teddy Cruz's dad, Rafael?

[@camr9433]

He's the man with the golden gun

[@jimafcarbon4433]

007

[@ShawnRaz87]

So you cant assemble a gun in a yt video but you can DISassemble one lol nice.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Well, it can't be instructional on how to make one. Content intended to sell firearms, instruct viewers on how to make firearms, ammunition, and certain accessories, or instruct viewers on how to install those accessories is not allowed on KZbin.

[@russell7489]

May God have mercy on your soul for those injured and killed due to you.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@russell7489 people have been making these since the advent of metal pipe. These are not new, nor the tools of a criminal. Half the comments are: OMG, what if a kid sees this video then makes one!? The other half are: We made a bunch of these as kids !

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@russell7489 firearms save far more lives than they take. "The great equalizer"

[@MyJp1983]

You seem fun

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@MyJp1983 you mean me or the other guy? I'm good times. Just ask my ex !

[@MyJp1983]

@jimafcarbon4433 I'm sure you are a hoot, I was speaking toward the person that makes parties awkward

[@xxcyclone]

wouldnt the ´´trigger´´ slipping problem go away if you somehow used a real trigger/homemade trigger and just made the end thredable,that would make it easier to grab the bolt/trigger and it would run smaller risk of itt sliping because its longer

[@jimafcarbon4433]

These are terrible really. Sure they could be improved. But the ease and simplicity is why they are everyone's first build. We should move on to better projects quickly though. kzbin.infotfABwm7EyIo?feature=share

[@That_1940s_Delinquent]

Hmmmm…. “Kids like to play with home made guns” indeed we do. Now the real question is how. if you use blanks for a ram hammer which a teen could perches no questions asked at a hardware store then load a metal bb or something in front of the blank that is the same size in diameter as the barrel. Extend the barrel by 2-3 inches and add a small push rod to help load the bb and there you go I think it is even more legal because you are not using real ammo and a teen can make it.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Yes, lots of options. This is only the beginning. But there's nothing to worry about here. Half the comments are: OMG, what if a kid sees this video then makes one!? The other half are: We made a bunch of these as kids ! Crimi also have no use for a singleshot 22. They have them glocks with the switches!

[@Chaos_God_of_Fate]

Heeeey! It's my pipe that I've had for about 15 Years! Love my Home Depot pipe! Thing is indestructible.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Home Depot still sells em.

[@polilucilfer]

I'm not an expert but it's beautiful... I'd like to know the measurements and common pou diameters for a small caliber to work on to try to make it

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@polilucilfer KZbin doesn't allow how-to videos for anything firearms related. Rumble and Odysee respect the 1st and 2nd amendments. There is a complete build video on my Rumble (jfgmfg) of this one in stainless kzbin.infowOQOx2p0zpw?si=YRdVsKGKnNx0C7HJ

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@polilucilfer another shopping list Just go to your hardware store. kzbin.info30pkHmGq0bQ?feature=share

[@polilucilfer]

@@jimafcarbon4433 I understand well, and thanks for answering... I'm just afraid of purchasing components with incompatible diameters for any type of "pellets"

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@@polilucilfer the 1/8"npt is just a little bigger than optimal for 22lr

[@polilucilfer]

in any case I have seen several videos and work tools and these are wonderful, the question was only born from the fact that being a neophyte and not being able to make measurements in advance, I wanted to buy the parts to be sure of compatibility

[@TheRhinestoneHurricane]

Nice, I made a similar pistol out of light fixture parts 🙂

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Improvised weapons are the best weapons !

[@dalatina911]

I think I just found my new favorite channel ❤ so fucking cool!!

[@jimafcarbon4433]

I only hope to inspire others to take on a build of their own, guns or otherwise.

[@dalatina911]

@@jimafcarbon4433 I love that! I’m a mechanic, but I’m also a single mother with three young boys. So I’m always trying to encourage my boys to get out there and learn. It’s so important!

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@dalatina911 careful, I was once a little boy raised by a single mother. We get into all kinds of stuff we shouldn't iF left unattended. Gotta give em enough room to grow, but stay close enough to guide them as best you can so thst when you're not there, they make the right choices !

[@AWideGigaByte]

I totally imagine this getting like 400%+ crit bonus on Fallout 4 man.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Level up !

[@AWideGigaByte]

Yeee YEEEE!!!

[@vinnysdiyworkshop9534]

You should solder or loctite the breech block in place to make one less movable piece

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Brass is a little "stretchy" so the threading is already tight enough for it to stay put. So far...

[@Lurch-Bot]

@@jimafcarbon4433 Brass isn't suitable for modern cartridge guns. But I can't imagine you've fired it more than a dozen times. A modern .22 LR high velocity is as energetic as .38 SPl and you definitely made an AOW because you can't tell it is a gun unless you take it apart. Might as well be a cane gun or a pen pistol, both of which are AOWs if they take a cartridge. Should have made it BP. GL with the ATF.

[@jimafcarbon4433]

@Lurch-Bot brass guns have been built commercially for 150 years. Modern high pressure cartridges like 357 and 44mag and even full powered 45-70, none of those trap-door only loads. As for this, the liner itself can contain the pressure, the brass just give you something to hold. At this point, she's seen north of 500 rounds easily.

[@vevenaneathna]

lol atf said pistols have to have rifeling but that the rifling doesnt have to do anything. this lead to people starting to put the rifiling on the outside of barrels which was deemed acceptable. i wonder if the threads of the components on the barrel count as refiling as well lol

[@jimafcarbon4433]

No, the regs state the rifling has to be sufficient to impart spin on the projectile. Excerpt from @nathanielhubbard9863 The ATF says that in order for a pistol to be legal and unregulated(meaning that it won't need to be registered & taxed as an 'any other weapon under the NFA rules), the pistol must have these 3 characteristics: 1. A grip extending at a downward angle from the bore. 2. The barrel must be rifled 'sufficiently to impart a spin on the projectile. 3. The weapon must be designed, built and intended to be fired with one hand.

[@vevenaneathna]

​@@jimafcarbon4433 well this is a change. in 2012-2013, I distinctly remember reading atf opinion letters that said that the rifling just had to be present in some way, and did not need to actually function in order to meet the def. of pistol. This was probably an old interpretation for those black powder muzzle loader pistol kits in which people would sand off the rifiling or use undersized shot since it would balistically behave better. back before the thingyverse ban and during the og wikiweapon go fund me, i remember all of the work in progress models had their rifeling on the outside of the barrel. the nfa is one thing, but the ATF makes it so difficult to interpret given the actual letter of the law is scattered across hundreds-thousands of opinion letters which tend to go back and forth on determinations and definitions depending on who is in charge of the atf, which seems to change with every potus election... bump stalks and braces are a better example. im hoping the cases at the SCOTUS right now will force the atf to stick to one definition that is clearly described in the NFA. a good list of things that need to be set in stone which keep changing are: barrel limit of 16" (changed from 18" after the CMP surplused 250,000 m1 carbine SBR's on accident), definition of permanently attached muzzle device, bump/hellfire triggers and "wake-o" incident, Akins Accelerator decision which lead to bump stalk acceptance by removal of its function spring="device", ruling of cosmetically scary shotguns = rocket launchers = "destructive device" like what happened with the streetsweeper, removal of legit sporting purpose exemption of 5 cents/round ukranian surplus 7n6 due to the existence of an ak74 pistol, and ruling that open bolt semiautos made after 1982 were machine guns. none of this is in the nfa, and neither is the definition of riffling. no doubt it is a convent interpretation to try and ban additively manufactured ghost gats.

[@Gillespie91]

Where did you get the rifled sleeve you pressed in

[@jimafcarbon4433]

I buy Redman liners from Brownells. The work great for lots of DIY builds including 3dp projects.

[@louistorcivia7556]

Well darn, i was hoping for a new device for smokin' pot. I'd use a LOT bigger fittings...

[@jimafcarbon4433]

Bigger fittings for smoking or shooting? No really, Curious. Maybe a version 2.0

[@sammylacks4937]

Need to get away from the rag weed and try the premium that's everywhere. Don't play with ya gun under the influence.