Evolution with Richard Dawkins | I Don’t Know About That with Jim Jefferies #34

In this episode, the team discusses evolution with ethologist, evolutionary biologist, and author, Richard Dawkins.
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[@sspbrazil]

It’s good to see Dawkins laughing, he tends to get all amped up and serious too often, Jim really gets him going. It’s great. Great episode.

[@rachel_rexxx]

Haha! Going forward, if anyone asks me if I'm religious, I'm going to say, "No, I'm normal."

[@yarightlmao]

Omfg I love it 😂

[@timothyfisk9610]

Had the exact same thought 😂

[@nedleyolpal]

I say “no I have a brain”

[@jamesoverholt878]

I always respond that I realized fairytales were nonsense when I was 7

[@partpar]

Jim Jefferies + Richard Dawkins. Is this a dream.

[@lonelyone]

Dawkins was a delight. You could tell Jim had reverence for him.

[@jnsk73]

They should talk more atheism though

[@cajoz]

@@lonelyone Jim seemed a bit starstruck , even.

[@lonelyone]

@@jnsk73 It sounds like Jim does know a lot about that though.

[@lonelyone]

@@cajoz I agree, he even cursed less this episode and stayed on topic.

[@poopandfartjokes]

“Have you heard of that one Mr Dawkings?” “Call me Richard please”...

[@carolyntalbot947]

[@emu_warrior]

This was a great episode. I love that Richard is a fan of Jim. I hope they keep Jack on camera, he's a great punching bag for the others. The show is really finding its rhythm.

[@nartou1175]

lol in the next episode.. jack is off camera .. i think thats not fair but whatcha gonna do

[@RyoHazuki224]

What I would give to have an hour conversation with Richard Dawkins! This was a real treat! Loved it!

[@Arborist5851]

Awsome show, I love Richard Dawkins the man is a legend! don't you ever die, You Beautiful Bastard x

[@markrobertsministries]

Yeah he's getting old. Will soon be sitting in hell waiting for his judgement. To give account for his foolishness. Something must have happened to him as a child to warp his mind

[@Arborist5851]

@@markrobertsministries That's cute world view buddy, just you keep believing that. as long as you don't go hurting anybody thats all good. Please don't become one of them religious nutter that needs to kill everyone that doesn't agree with their world view.

[@distantcoff7391]

@@markrobertsministries which particular "god" is your personal "god"?

[@agentsteve8263]

@@distantcoff7391 most likely the biblical god

[@distantcoff7391]

@@agentsteve8263 not some other work of fiction? There's plenty of them.

[@kolobrzeg091]

But how the .... did you get Richard Dawkins on the show ? Well done Forrest 👍. Best podcast ever, love you guys !

[@mtraven23]

haven't watched yet, but I let out an audible "fuck yah" at the the sight of the title.

[@lpmwalker_of_sky1903]

Me too! I had to do a double take.

[@obiewanjabronie3811]

Was it just me that found it painful to watch? All those retarded questions

[@AJ-ut8cz]

Pretty big expert you got there.

[@carolyntalbot947]

No kidding, can you BELIEVE it?!

[@maddog9180]

Glad to see Richard still healthy .

[@61SGman]

He’s doing very well for a man his age, still so switched on and intelligent

[@anttiharju3739]

'Selfish Gene' is certainly my favourite non-fiction of all time.

[@jeremyelliot4831]

I recommend "The Blind Watchmaker" - I love it.

[@anttiharju3739]

@@jeremyelliot4831 I can't believe I still haven't read it! There's something to look for

[@firstnamelastname180]

@@anttiharju3739 they're both really great books, the selfish gene is my favourite nonfiction too!

[@eddiegarlick9771]

@@firstnamelastname180 The Greatest show on earth is amazing too. Favourite for me though? Ancestors Tale. Brilliant writer.

[@eddiegarlick9771]

@@anttiharju3739 Both great

[@captainzappbrannagan]

Richard is a champion of the age of reason and a true treasure. Thanks for having him on the show. A fun, funny and entertaining show.

[@ImmortalInflames]

The Blind Watchmaker, a truly brilliant book!! I wish Pro. R. Dawkins wpas a regular on this show!!

[@trishcooley5810]

An EMT told me the vein that feeds nose bleeds is in your upper lip. You’re supposed to apply pressure just under your nostrils to stop nose bleeds.

[@theRandy712]

I've watched Dawkins in countless videos, and seen him speak live a few times as well, and this was EASILY they most fun I've had seeing him. This was the perfect setting for him.

[@rohnwest4497]

Thnx Forest "that new planet smell" created a rather major spit take

[@sarahj344]

I love this podcast, adore Jim Jeffries as one of my favourite comedians (and a fellow Aussie, yeay!) and I am a huge fan as well of Richard Dawkins. I could not, however, picture how this pairing was going to go - Dawkins and Jeffries are very different personalities! But wow - so far, I'm absolutely loving it. Best podcast episode yet!

[@Mikemfm666]

Yesss! I show everyone that's not atheist "The God delusion" I would do about anything to meet and talk to dawkins.

[@mtraven23]

he would be very high on my dinner party guest list

[@heathwhite7026]

Agreed, he would definitely top my list - Richard has been my idol since I first read 'The Blind Watchmaker' as a teenager 25 years ago (he is the reason I both became a biologist and also developed confidence in expressing my religious beliefs - or rather lack thereof!).

[@mtraven23]

@@heathwhite7026 thats great! my first read of his was "the god delusion" --an instant classic.

[@sidarthur8706]

the two arguments he uses in that book are basically 'religion is bad because religious people do bad things' and 'god isn't real because the only god i can imagine is a big animal'. it's massively overrated as what it's marketed as. far from his best work

[@markrobertsministries]

You may see him on judgement day. I'd say you won't be able to talk to him though

[@WillBravoNotEvil]

Imagine if every Sunday morning Richard Dawkins delivered an hour's lecture. I'd totally attend that "church."

[@moazim1993]

1:02:00 They actually taught me with that book in 6th grade. I went to a religious school. I already knew it was bullshit since I got into evolution from watching Pokémon.

[@flashpeter625]

This might be the only positive consequence of Pokémon ever.

[@w8m4n]

@@flashpeter625 I dno. What about all the morons we lost due to them wandering into lakes and off cliffs with pokemon go. I'd say it played it's own part in natural selection 😂

[@jpjapers]

Jack Hackett is a drunk, swearing priest in the UK Sitcom 'Father Ted'

[@carlatteniese2]

Thank you Mates! This was good fun. Did ya notice Professor Dawkins has a pic of Jim on his wall?

[@Biologia101-eb2fn]

I´m an evolutionary biologist and a big Jefferies fan. The amount of hilarious stuff you hear in bars regarding evolution is enough for a good hour of stand up.

[@pikasnipe1]

So far this seems like the most famous expert he's had.

[@jeffreyrose4240]

Yea i'd agree... Leno is pretty famous also

[@lukestrong5779]

Leno blows him out of the water in terms of fame but Dawkins definitely deserves to be more famous

[@jeffreyrose4240]

@@lukestrong5779 I strongly agree with this.. I held back because I was avoiding the "Lenos not an expert" comment and/or the "In the Science community Dawkins is more famous" nonsense that you get on youtube lol... but yes i agree with you

[@pikasnipe1]

@@lukestrong5779 I accept that he's the most famous guest, he is only a hobby expert. I'd bow to Jay's knowledge any day tho.

[@pikasnipe1]

@@jeffreyrose4240 in the category of expert's Dawkins is high ranking.

[@zoddsonofthor5576]

Alfred Russel Wallace The working class hero forgotten by history

[@eemoogee160]

He was a badass

[@RiamsWorld]

It's strange when people start talking about scientific facts like evolution in a prescriptive way like regarding medical science. Evolution is a fact like gravity is a fact. Gravity's existence doesn't mean we shouldn't have planes or ladders or that people getting thrown out of a window is a good thing. Biologists don't claim evolution *should* happen, just that it does. That's one of the main things Creationists don't understand when they talk about Social Darwinism.

[@jamestcatcato7132]

"NATURAL SELECTION", IS AT BEST A SOPHOMORIC SPECULATION , WHERE'S THE "SCIENCE" IN "RANDOM MUTATION OVER UNSPECIFIED TIME" WHAT A CROCK!

[@deanwalker5367]

@@jamestcatcato7132 oh wow your existence and comment just proved devolution is real :P.

[@Mcfreddo]

@@jamestcatcato7132 Well Natural selection goes on every day. Look dude! Just that what we can see in our mere short lives, it just reinforces the everyday and that we can only see it but change will occur further as the ancient record shows that. Some more than other species like sharks. There's always been the need for sharks and how they do it, so their change has gone much more slowly than ours. This has been shown but proven. When you were about 6 weeks old in the womb, you had the milk-line ridge called the mammalian milk line, which goes from your current nipples down to your groin, that were forming a row of nipples like many other mammals. They them atrophied except for your current two. Some people have a third or forth nipple, usually un-migrated to be on that line. This is your and everybody else's history. This is only the start.

[@gabrielplattes6253]

Wallace wrote Darwin a letter revealing his theory, after which Darwin rushed to print, and beat him to the print-punch. Wallace rules!! Wallace should always be mentioned in the same breath as Darwin! ✌️😀 That painting behind Dawkins, I want that please; also the ac/dc ticket, please... I'll go for trade?...

[@ryklatortuga4146]

Jack Hackett - "That would be an ecumenical matter..."

[@thomasgrahham2553]

love it

[@jasoncousins3079]

You forgot "gurrls" 😂😂

[@martinseal1987]

@Abe Garfield women's knickers!

[@sidarthur8706]

yes

[@frankcooke1692]

The botanist from the First Fleet that he was confusing for Charles Darwin was Joseph Banks.

[@waynebridges3181]

I should have scrolled down haha

[@wesleybush8646]

Trivia: Abraham Lincoln and Charles Darwin were born on the same day, Feb. 12 1809. Of course, Darwin lived longer.

[@sranzuline]

19:10 Richard Dawkins part

[@stephjovi]

Thx! 5 minutes of Jim s dad was interesting but than it's really enough

[@katinkaaa2951]

thank you haha, almost stopped watching

[@unicyclist97]

Reading The Selfish Gene and then The God Delusion saved me from religion. Dawkins is amazing.

[@jefketheboss4009]

God is amazing ;)

[@aidanhall6679]

@@jefketheboss4009 don’t rate him. ‘His’ book is overrated as fuck, especially so if he authored it.

[@DingleberryWhite]

Jack is getting better at jokes. Give him a biscuit!

[@richardiv385]

We have skin, scale and feather impressions in the fossil record, as well as the odd mummified creature where a dinosaur or something was buried so quickly that no decomposition occurred. There’s feather impressions surrounding archaeopteryx and scale impressions from tyrannosaurs.

[@skoll_2024]

Jim was honestly chuffed when he heard Dawkins was a fan. Good on ya Jim.

[@LemmingAttack]

Your producer should be fired for waiting 20 minutes until your guest is on the show.

[@kiriakoz]

I agree. I love Jim and Richard but I hate the format of this podcast. I’ve listened to 2-3 I think.

[@hah6988]

Jim needs a whole new crew

[@Veran42]

I disagree, fucking around for 20 minutes you still have tons of time with the guest, I thoroughly enjoyed this

[@TheTCisIN]

​@@Veran42I disagree. You can do that at the end. Don't hold off that long or people will fast forward, if they stay at all. The format is getting better. You need to build the audience still but the content as actually great. Jim is awesome. With the right team, this would explode.

[@Veran42]

@@TheTCisIN I respect your opinion, I just like Jim hanging out with his friends, but I do think the new format where it’s a little bit shorter is better

[@Chase942]

This extra camera angle really helps my mood; being able to finally see jack is making me forget about the 3rd snow storm lol...thanks for investing in more camera angles

[@sanjaygupta666]

Richard Dawkins - the man behind the meme

[@galesito1733]

Jim, dogfish is sold in Aussie fish and chip shops as "flake".

[@alfrede.neuman9082]

Jim Jeffries is thinking of Joseph Banks, who sailed with Captain Cook and who inspired the name ‘Botany Bay’ for the place they landed in NSW from HMS Endeavour. Darwin’s voyage on HMS Beagle was unrelated other than that they both visited Australia.

[@kuluvas2]

For spicy stuff use cucumber. Stops it immediately

[@topmark99]

Fantastic to see Richard Dawkins on the podcast. Great banter.

[@tonicharice9243]

Literally just screamed in public! I'm a monkey hanger! We're from hartlepool in North East England where we once hung a monkey because we thought he was a French man 😂

[@w8m4n]

Is there any annual tradition based on that?

[@squanchy666]

Close enough

[@eddiegarlick9771]

@@squanchy666 wow!

[@Chase942]

This made my day; great choice of topic

[@sixxart]

Here's a dinner party fact: "Darwin the city was named after the English naturalist, geologist and evolutionary biologist, Charles Robert Darwin." So, sorry Richard but Darwin was named after the same Charles Darwin.

[@TheWindynook]

Richard is rocking that shirt!

[@blauemadeleine]

Reading Richard Dawkins books has changed my life.

[@AronTobasco]

Where are these 'tubes of ice cream' one cuts ice cream from to make ice cream sandwiches?? Bizarre example of a lifehack

[@democlips1]

“The God Delusion”. What a great read!!!

[@craiglyle2966]

There has to be a missing link in the evolution of the human brain, from Jim Jeffries to Richard Dawkins? That’s one mighty big jump in cognitive function (No I don’t think it’s Jack).

[@qwertyuiopgarth]

There has been dinosaur skin and feathers recovered, and they were able to demonstrate that particular feather was black. (Little remnants of color in the fossil. Very clever analysis. Also, there have been reconstructions of dinosaur (T.Rex if I remember correctly) that gave a _plausible_ idea of what it could have sounded like. Nothing is known enough to be certain, but enough is known that we can say we are not totally ignorant of what dinosaurs looked and sounded like (just mostly ignorant).

[@shanban1965]

Thank you for a bit of fun and laughter and knowledge ❤️

[@lpmwalker_of_sky1903]

Thank you for having Dr. Richard Dawkins on the show. Your podcast provides the perfect forum for speaking about evolution. How did you decide to ask him to be on the show?

[@dougdellwo3274]

My dog thinks he's god. I pick up his poop. I provide treats and food. I pet him and scratch his back, I provide shelter. He lives the life of luxury. I am, literally, his man servant.

[@stephjovi]

Nah its a dog he thinks you're god mmy cat knows she's a goddes. She can scratch me and I'll still give her snuggles and a treat

[@kafrabuchai5771]

Jim asking Richard Dawkins questions about science had a 'dancing w the stars' meets early morning radio vibe.

[@heidimelcarek3677]

Insects are vital to the substance of soil, I thought - creation, fertilization. N they're food for a lot of species of birds. Plus bees are insects n if not for them, plants would have difficulty pollinating. All kinds of insects are really important. Maybe not cockroaches so much, but there are lots of others we couldn't live without.

[@benhughes2538]

I'm surprised Jack's Hackett for the nosebleed wasn't just to Caulk it.

[@PF-Fly]

I’m a whitewater raft guide and we definitely carry tampons in our med kits to plug bloody noses.They work really well.

[@STEVENFRYFRY]

tampons and pads are a must in any first aid kit

[@karenlloyd1705]

Some paramedics do too

[@whatabouttheearth]

Yup, do the same in the US Marine Corps

[@davidosilverman900]

"it's worse than that: we're extinct. Jim" - Forrest and Kelley, in unison.

[@antistraveling3522]

I like how they got jack a table and a camera

[@drpancakes1622]

He's moving up in the world, even got him a chair!

[@RR-yr4sd]

Finally! I don't know who these other people are. but to see such an amazing professional comedian like Jack Hackett just keeps dragging me back to the show.

[@vladmiller5285]

The only thing they need to get him now is a girlfriend :)

[@slimyelbow]

Didn't even know this was something I wanted to see.

[@jeffrobdine]

There are several videos on KZbin with Richard Dawkins debating believers of god and religion which are very entertaining, check them out, Professor Dawkins is a brilliant man!

[@slimyelbow]

My bad. I meant these 2 together. I'm a Dawkins fan from way back.

[@floraofnevada6493]

Just one clarification upon what Dr. Dawkins said, that the concept of species applies to all life on Earth, not only animals, but rather plants, fungi, and much smaller things as well. Plant species, however, can often viably interbreed, which complicates the definitions a bit.

[@Kurahaara86]

Well, shit! Richard missed a shot at his giraffe story at the end. Could've been another Dinner Party Fact™

[@johnc.2876]

This was an excellent episode! Jim, Forrest, and Kelly are all so warm to that intellectually challenged young man, I believe his name was Zach. Truly heart warming.

[@emerraldx]

pretty sure the new Jack segment was just an excuse to get Jacks shirt off on his first camera appearance 🤔 Cool to see Dawkins on here, such a hero but I thought Jim would make it funnier

[@frreinov]

36:55 "...that's even worse!" LMAO

[@tonypegler9080]

Darwin was indeed named after Charles Darwin. The Botanist on HMS Endevour was Joseph Banks.

[@stephanstertz9823]

Jim has the greatest sense of sarcasm.........When he talks about his 8 year old son making dinner and fucking it up.......

[@aoifearies1977]

really really good episode

[@alrich7580]

I wish Jim and Richard were in the room together

[@Diane_Adams]

Oooh Jim... you are so lucky!

[@souldefunk]

Such a fantastic episode!

[@paulmccarter908]

19:13 for Dawkins

[@jamescooper1848]

@Jim, on the morning of Jan 20th would you be so kind as to visit the American President and wake him up using your famous "Up, Gunta! Up!" line? Hehehe

[@jeremykothe2847]

This is the man who coined the word "meme". If you have not, you owe it to yourself to read "The Selfish Gene" and "The Blind Watchmaker". Especially the former, these are/were significant contributions to science and understanding. *Especially* the former. Everything since then has been debunking obvious fallacies.

[@hanktheskank97]

You should ring Ole pappa Nugent and have an episode with him. He sounds like an absolute delight. Might need to send someone to set up his zoom.

[@stevenotto1456]

Yeah, they could have an episode all about Jim. Not the usual format, but it'd be great fun!

[@karlosjeffers4791]

“The rest of the world call them Hampers” 🤣 Think I’m going to enjoy this

[@alexderby7701]

John cena has been taking his shirt off like that for years

[@kiernankrueger9265]

I love this show! "You're a great little podcaster! Keep going!"

[@Kaminoextragalactic]

finally a worhty guest

[@gregwarnecke3772]

I grew up in Darwin and Jim is 100% correct about evolution

[@Halftime_ynd]

Awesome episode. You guys crack me up

[@jenesisjones6706]

"Hull the Cerd" hahahahahaha

[@jazzyb4656]

Hartlepool is the place that they are called monkey hangers! It's a place in the North East of England. A monkey did wash up on the beach and they thought it was a Frenchman and hung it!

[@TheDillberto]

Ok richard dawkin is in my good books agen he could handle jim lol

[@nathanielacton3768]

One of the most profound things to read in the Selfish Gene was the section on the diversity of genealogy between males and females due to the vastly different evolutionary forces. Almost heresy to mention today. I remember thinking when I read that section that the evolutionary forces driving males and females apart are so strong and have been present since the dawn of life that's is amazing that males and females even resemble each other at all.

[@Mikemfm666]

This. Is. Amazing.

[@tnightwolf]

Bees people! Fkn bees and mosquitoes and wasps! FUCK YEAH!

[@adamschoedel8829]

This was really fun.

[@adamapfel7335]

Richard Dawkins: "It's not an either or thing at least..." Me: "I f*cking knew it!"

[@aarolowe]

"Their brains were small and they died" Mark Graham.

[@Simon-nx1sc]

Very interesting expert! If only you would let him talk longer ;)

[@dilsadmeraler]

He is so funny asking the most idiotic questions and still learning perfectly scientific facts 😂😂😂

[@tammymichelemartin2497]

I love the T-Shirt contest! That was fun. I thought for sure Jack had it...CONGRATS ON THE WIN JIM...sucks you stretched out your fav T. I get it. MY OCD is how my cloths fit. It's a nightmare for anyone shopping with me and probably quite humorous for the undercover security watching me go in and out of the dressing room with 90 pairs of jeans to try on. Back to Evolution with Richard Dawkins!

[@marymorland7722]

Jim Jefferies, at Home Depot you can get a product called Terro that works perfectly on getting rid of your ant problem.

[@sharkulashairstylist5505]

My god is a ninja that shape-shifts into a dragon.

[@nestorrfortuna1]

best thing that happened in this 2021 so far. found jim j

[@ejyounggun08]

Richard and Jim are a dream podcast combo yet this only has 100k views? Come on now internet. You're better than that.

[@tonypegler3618]

Is that Bundaberg Ginger Beer on the bookshelf ?