The "HONEST TRUTH" About The Carolina Hurricanes

Let's delve into the insane season that is the Carolina Hurricanes after their blockbuster trade to acquire Mikko Rantanen. The Hurricanes have arguably one of the best rosters in the NHL, making them one of the biggest contenders to win it all this year. But is there too much pressure being placed on this team? And is a deep playoff run necessary for them to keep their new superstar in town? Well today let's talk Hurricanes hockey and breakdown why this year is Cup or Bust in Carolina. Subscribe to Jimmy Hockey for more NHL News and Breakdowns.
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[@cachase13]

I never thought I’d consider calling someone “a well above average coach” insulting. Brindamours literally had the best start to a career by a coach in the history of the league. Fastest to 300 wins, he’ll probably be fastest to 400 and 500 too the way they’ve got this roster built.

[@jimmyhockey]

How did you possibly take that as an insult, fair play I’m impressed

[@ryan109]

@@jimmyhockeyhe cooked you

[@Koersky]

Rod ain’t gonna let you hit💀

[@PapaBlach]

Ya I was taken aback when he said that. Brindamour is no “above average coach” he is easiest one of the best coaches the nhl has to offer

[@HarrisonHollers]

How many Cups?

[@Thatoneguy55234]

Hey, just as a canes fan, i appreciate the video. I always felt like they were always in the background, and this trade made them up and center. Very well made video. LETS GO CANES

[@jimmyhockey]

Appreciate the support, thanks for watching🙏🏻

[@calvinathy7881]

I think it ultimately comes down to if Mikko fits in and enjoys his time here. If he clicks with the team/Rod, enjoys being the big guy in town not behind Nate dog, and finds success in his game, I don’t see why he wouldn’t want to stay. Eric Tulsky is not Don Waddell and will absolutely sign him to a large contract. Tulsky has even said they learned from the Guentzel situation and want to sign him but are giving him time to adjust and see how he feels.

[@jimmyhockey]

All very true, this is something I highlighted in depth with this video. The reason a deep playoff run is important is to show Rantanen that this team wants to invest in their players and win. In doing that Rantanen may feel comfortable signing here instead of signing elsewhere

[@kelseykjarsgaard5774]

He plays with aho finland

[@lukechristman8387]

As a long canes fan, goaltending has been the issue for a long time. But as long as both Andersen and Kotchekov are healthy and do their job. We could have a chance at winning it this year. Especially having Rantannan on our team and a great defense and an outstanding special team. LGC

[@jimmyhockey]

Health is key for their goaltending, Andersen was a stud in the first round last year and hopefully kochkov will be more prepared having a bit more experience

[@kiekko673]

In order to go far, they need a top-10 goalie, that’s the truth. ✌️

[@bigbeast008]

This is the year. We got MUCH bigger with that trade - we have huge players on every line AND gained skill. Might not even be done yet making moves- Tulsky is a gamer!

[@kiekko673]

@@Ozero300 Oh yes, Kuemper. How can anyone argue against that? 😁 You got me convinced, gotta admit. I actually really do hope, that the Canes win the Cup. They deserve it, goddammit! ✌️

[@splau2020]

I don’t think its cup or bust at all. Other ppl have mentioned the cap space freeing up this summer and with the likes of nikishin, morrow and nadeau waiting in the wings, have the home grown talent to fill in the gaps. Most canes fans saw this year as a bit of a retool with next year opening a new cup window. The Moose trade makes things look more urgent but honestly necas and drury both went to arbitration last summer and clearly didnt want to sign so i think the mindset in the canes front office was similar to that for the avs. Sell high now or lost them for nothing later. I also do think tolsky will over moose 14x8. Why else make the trade and he has plenty of cap for it.

[@charlesmartin6431]

Especially with the cap going up 7 million next year, Orlov's contract alone plus the cap going up is the 14 million you need. Scott Morrow or Nikishin will most likely replace Orlov next season on a rookie contract. That is just my opinion on that.

[@canesfan1526]

Canes are certainly a cup contender but Cup or Bust is crazy. The window has just been opened and they are looking to compete for it these next few years. They have a youth movement coming and an extension to Moose it’s gonna be a huge boost.

[@ryans3795]

I don't think it's cup or bust, this was supposed to be an off year and a year to really get players situated with all the moves in the off season. The canes are playing above what is expected, and the trade made should only help them even more.

[@jimmyhockey]

I’m not sure that’s all true, the Canes are not trying to take a year off. I think this team understands that they have great contracts and great players on this roster which is why they are taking a chance on Rantanen

[@harryman_1324]

​@@jimmyhockey yeah, but they have next year set up really well too, not accounting for a potential Rantanen extension, they expect to have somewhere in the realm of 25-30 mil in cap space, and all their core guys are still locked up for years to come, they still have most of their picks over the next several years, and they still have good prospects, some to move in deals, some like Nikishin and Morrow who could, especially in the case of Nikishin immediately make a splash and replace burns or orlov for cheaper, letting them spend money on their question marks. Their question marks are at least 1 top 6 forward, ideally a top line forward, though svech aho jarvis isn't a bad top line and they are locked up through 2028. Probably at least 1 defenseman, they would have 6 if both Morrow and Nikishin make the jump, but betting on two rookies, at least one of which would likely be asked to play top 4 or maybe even top pair, might be a bit much. Whatever they have in goal. Kooch is still signed, but somehow I doubt they decide to bring Freddie back, we all love him, and he is genuinely a great goalie, but its too much to ask a guy like martin, or Tokarski to be our number 2, or even our number 1 for stretches of every season. And finally they would need a few forwards to fill in around the edges, they'll probably pick some to bring back, and find a couple new guys, to play bottom 6, but that's not a huge spend. So realistically that 30 mil will go quick, but say its 14 mil for Rantanen, probably try for Hill or Vejmelka that could easily be 5-7 mil, defenseman is probably 3-5 mil, they dont need a world beater, but a guy who is solid in case the rookies arent. Leaving probably about 5 mil to fill in around the edges. That's still a great team, and that's assuming the Canes find guys at market rate. they constantly find guys who have career years here for cheap, guys like Noesen, Robinson, hell despite the controversy, Deangelo put up 50 points for a mil, and we even got to flip his RFA rights for picks. Edit: apparently I last checked before the Rantanen trade, and before the projected cap jump, They have presently, 55.7 million against the cap next season, leaving them with 40 mil!!!

[@ThatEflatGuy]

There’s a lot of missing context when people talk about the Guentzel situation last season. Last year the Hurricanes would have been $20M over the cap if they re-signed everyone at their value. So, not only did Guentzel walk, but so did shutdown D Brett Pesce, Brady Skjei, and Teuvo Teravainen. And in spite of all that, Carolina did end up matching the offer that Tampa Bay gave Guentzel with the 8th year but Guentzel didn’t want it. So it wasn’t ever about the Hurricanes refusing to pay; they just fought really hard early in negotiations to see if he would budge. This year, with the Canes having plenty of room under the rising cap this offseason they will have the flexibility to pay top dollar. Mikko will get offered an 8 year contract worth at least $13M annually from the Hurricanes. It will of course be his decision once again so there is risk that he will choose free agency due to fit, but I would put those odds at 75/25 that he signs or leaves.

[@FalloutUrMum]

I'm a Canes fan. This year we've been playing with house money really. We lost a lot of our main guys last summer and have exceeded expectations to the point that we're cup contenders despite playing with a lot of newer players and a few rookies, with more rookies coming next year

[@bigbeast008]

its cup or bust. we lost some good players but they were expendable. cant keep picking 25th in the draft and stay a contender. eventually it all comes crashing down, the team burns out and you become 5 games under 500 buffalo for 20 seasons. we want the cup fk everything else

[@scrapking77]

Nice team playing winning hockey. But they don't have enough. The Canes have the talent but come playoff time they struggle to score the greasy goals needed to win the tough series and the goaltenders are competent but have to be near perfect. Carolina is a fun team to watch but second rounders at best.

[@GlitchedPerception]

Trust me, Canes fans thought this was a down year. We have been pleasantly surprised with how it has turned out this season. Tulsky is cooking.

[@FlyHenryFly]

two things determine how serious this team is when the playoffs come: powerplay consistent goaltending both of these are what have costed us the last few years, especially last year which was probably the best team in franchise history top to bottom, blowing a 3-1 lead in minutes to a rival when we had all the momentum and a reverse sweep seemed like it was about to come true

[@jimmyhockey]

Rantanen should help a lot with the Powerplay and as for the health that is unpredictable so we will have to just wait and see how things play out

[@FlyHenryFly]

@ not even the health just depends on how freddie plays assuming he starts the playoffs. he played incredible or was awful at times

[@lukejohnson29]

Next season we have Burns, Orlov, Roslovic, Hall, Anderson off the books. Projected 38.7mil cap space for signing players. Likely ~13.5 for Rantanen (that would requires an offer of 15.4 aav for any team to match), bring Alexander Nikishin to America, find a bottom six forward and third pair defensemen that fit the team, or bring in some of the great prospects! That leaves ~21.2 for a good goaltender (Hill?) and a top six forward or two (ex: Gourde, Olofsson, offer sheet Kakko). In summation, the Canes will probably look better next season than they do now.

[@jessepressler208]

Offer sheet Vilardi?

[@lukejohnson29]

@ I wasn’t paying attention to the jets because they have the most cap space of any team this next off season. Maybe look to compete for Ehlers instead?

[@jessepressler208]

@lukejohnson29 Ehlers and Bennett are probably the best options available for forwards from a UFA perspective. I don't want KK playing top 6 minutes anymore. He either needs to be moved down the lineup or via trade by next season.

[@mattcardarelli]

Jarvis is way better than I ever imagined. Amazing motor, totally drives the team at times.

[@jimmyhockey]

Great for the room too his personality is awesome

[@timkelly6463]

I see a lot of people overlooking the Aho-Rantanen friendship. I think Carolina has the leg up on signing Mikko, assuming they don't crash out in the 1st round. I guess its all up to Tulsky and the owners whether they want to actually spend this offseason.

[@ryan8703]

Next year was supposed to be the Canes true start of a cup window again with all the cap space and great prospects, but this year feels like a great chance for them to capitalize and maybe push the group over the edge for the next 2-3 years.

[@mdd47]

This team isn't Cup or bust. They're going into next season with $35 to $40 million in cap space, they have two good young d-men coming in on rookie contracts next year (Nikishin and Morrow, and Nikishin is generally considered the best defenseman in the world who is not in the NHL), they're getting good rookie minutes out of Blake and room for Bradley Nadeau to make the jump to the NHL next year. This team is set up to be good for the next 10 years, they are not concerned with Cup or bust cycles, they're trying to be the Pittsburgh Steelers of the NHL where they're always good,, they always make the playoffs, and occasionally they're good enough to have championship hopes. I'd way rather have that than a team with a Cup or bust mentality, because that gives you a built in excuse if you suck the next year. That's not how winning organizations operate. I will say I'm not sold on Rantanen at $13 million, 8 years, because I don't see the physical effort yet in his game that I expect to see from a Canes forward. In this system, everybody goes balls out in the offensive zone for puck support. If you're not supporting the puck, you're rotating back to cover a defensive position. And I've seen Rantanen do a fair bit of standing around. If he doesn't adapt to the system, Tulsky will be happy to spend that money on another big fish in the UFA market. It would be better if Rantanen did live up to their faith in him, but if he doesn't, it's not the end of the world.

[@russwinn]

AHO is his best friend! Players love the Raleigh Area! Im saying 75% of signing him! Fan base feels, Dundin BETTER SIGN HIM!

[@ashton7588]

The canes will have the cap space to resign Rantanan unlike last year where they couldn’t afford Guentzel

[@michalsuchanek5324]

The problem is that their GM has his own ideology and ,,system" about paying players. He doesn't like overpaying and nobody from their roster has salary higher than 9,75 M. So he maby wouldn't give Rantanen his wanted 14M.

[@Xerxsion]

@@michalsuchanek5324Tbf nobody on their roster has been worth more than 9M

[@michalsuchanek5324]

@ Nobody except Rantanen

[@Xerxsion]

@@michalsuchanek5324 which is why that argument that they don’t like to pay big money doesn’t make TOO much sense since they’ve never had a chance to sign a player of Rantanens calibre

[@jimmyhockey]

We will have to see, who knows maybe management wants to pay him and maybe not but you have to remember Rantanen is a UFA which means he gets to talk to other teams and choose where he wants to play

[@stephenkocot4119]

The canes were good before Rantanen. Hall is extremely talented too. This is not a win now or bust. Svech, Jarvis, Ago, and Slavin are a great core signed long term.

[@jimmyhockey]

Great core but they need for one of these free agent signings to work out in order to win a cup. Ultimately these four players are not enough on their own so it’s cup or bust because they lost a very talented player in Necas and need to capitalize on this year in order to keep Rantanen in town

[@inkedoctopus]

just here to say that I love seeing all of my fellow Caniacs in the comments adding much needed context you a few points made in this video!

[@jimmyhockey]

Caniacs are always the best, love discussing Carolina puck with the fanbase because they care so much

[@SnarlyCharly]

I really like Eric Tulsky so far as Canes GM. He's seen that the Canes haven't been able to get over that hump in the playoffs... so instead of carrying on the same formula that has failed us every season in the playoffs, he's willing to actually try something new, like signing a legitimate superstar player to a big contract. There should be enough cap space this year to get it done, so I see no reason whatsoever that Tulsky wouldn't be willing to pull the trigger on a big Rantanen contract.

[@bigeddymachete]

In 2019 I genuinely believed the cup final that year was between the bruins and the canes but the bruins advanced I’ve always just felt bad for the canes and all their upsets since

[@noonelikesyoucharlesdugan3581]

I don’t think the canes are cup or bust they have a few more years of being contenders with how many long term contracts they have

[@mmoff3]

Canes have $30M in cap space afaik after this season, it's perfectly possible Canes will be willing to sign a big money deal for Rantanen

[@jimmyhockey]

Absolutely it is possible and the canes will do it if they can, but remember Rantanen is a UFA and he gets to choose where he signs

[@fabiangruber1811]

Ist it possible that the AVS could get mikko back next year (or in 2027?) becaus the Cap Hit gets a Raise? Cheers from a Hockey Fan from Germany!

[@jimmyhockey]

Cheers! Yes it is possible for him to go back because he is a ufa

[@kashitumbapura6691]

From Rantanen’s pov, not that many teams like the canes who have a lot of cap space with great players already locked in to contracts. As well as a consistent team competing every year

[@jimmyhockey]

True but at the same time other teams may be willing to offer more than Carolina or maybe Rantanen doesn’t like the city and wants to play elsewhere, who really knows. I’m sure they will offer him a contract but since he is a UFA it’s truly an unpredictable situation

[@David-sr9uv]

All depends on goalkeeping. Anderson let us down in the final 2 playoff games last year.

[@EthanQualle]

Great video and comments let’s go canes!

[@jimmyhockey]

Let’s go canes

[@BillEland]

Cup or Bust !?!?!?! Lol I guess you haven't seen their prospects and draft picks . Kind of a silly remark. Besides that I enjoyed your video.

[@squirrelz6117]

You know, I would agree that the Canes are a great team. Brind a'mour is a solid coach, probably one of THE best in the NHL. What people don't know is that the Canes are one of the worst offenses in the NHL, often times finishing dead last on shots per goal. Brind A'mOur is both a blessing and a curse, and if it isn't his fault for their weakness of finding time and space, then whoever is needs to be fired immediately. I'm not saying this because I just think it, I know it. They've had too much talent come and go over the years, just to play like this. The system is probably more responsible than any one coach that we have. Rantanen is drying up because of how the Canes play offense. That is why Guentz left, it affects your marketability.

[@Thatguyisdead27]

In Tulsky we trust. But in all seriousness we have 30 million in cap he wants 11-15 million leaving enough to sign most of our other expiring pieces and tulsky seems a lot more cut throat and aggressive when it comes to make moves compared to don wadell

[@TacticalReconSquad]

Rantanen is gonna chase the money...

[@TLHockeyCards]

Always rooting for the canes these days. Love Aho's game

[@Canessnz]

Talking good about Brent Burns, any other years. He's been great, but dude, this year, he is BAD. Also every year is said to be cup or bust when it's really not, we gotta stop with this. We're gonna be a contender for aboutt the next decade. The core is in their 20s plus Nikishin, Nadeau, Artamonov, Morrow, FUS. Also we are able to pay Rantanen this year unlike Guentzel. Last year was cap hell and nlw we have 40M. Well get it done (Hopefully). Yes the playoff hump is underwhelming ik. Also we were expected tk be a WC team this year so im happy with where we are at. I think a Cup or Bust year would be next year when we can add more epieces around and a new goalie.

[@mdd47]

Burns feet have gotten slow and his brain has gotten slower. Some of these passes he's making deep in the defensive zone would get him benched if he was a younger player. Burns/Orlov out and Nikishin/Morrow in is looking like a better and better offseason all the time.

[@legenda..8199]

RANTANEN 🔥🔥

[@haslamabad_]

you should make another vide about the sens last video you were calling them a disaster now they are 1 win behind the leafs

[@Jakey2426]

I hope he gets a deal done...

[@jimmyhockey]

I think they will agree to something

[@frankthetank5718]

Wait til nikishin gets here in the playoffs.

[@CTODGhost]

The Colorado Avalanche are my first & favorite team, the Hurricanes are my 2nd team because they’re in the East. Both teams started building out their defenses around the same time. I will say, Colorado’s higher end talent on defense carries them a bit further than Carolina’s and I think Colorado’s defense is better than Carolina. That said, defensively, not just offensively, I think Carolina is absolutely best in the NHL and it’s a no contest. But in the modern, while defense is important, a defense that can produce can help mitigate production from forwards and while Brent Burns is still playing decently, the Hurricanes defense is much better at preventing goals than creating them. Shayne Gostisbehere is a monster and fits super well just like he did a couple of trade deadlines ago. They could probably use a more productive defensemen, and then they’d absolutely wear the crown of best defense in the NHL, over Colorado.

[@jaylytical2271]

All of this just to lose to the Panthers in the second or third round

[@bigbeast008]

Guenzel was fine with staying for the record but we took too long to match Tampa. Ya snooze ya lose. Not this year baby!!!!! 🏆

[@doomslayerdave]

Small market. Big expectations. The D is good but we don't have a Werenski or Hughes. Slavin is really good but Burns makes too many mistakes

[@charlesmartin6431]

They aren't small market anymore, they have sold out 95 consecutive home games and ranked 7th in overall attendance last season. They spend to the cap every year, which can't be said about previous ownership who would skimp out kind of like the Athletics owner. Carolina is now a destination location for great players instead of an avoid at all costs.

[@ProductionAdmin]

Hmm....pre season the expectations were down a bit...but the super hot start changed that. Then the goalie health issues, and a long stretch of only .500 hockey...back to slightly lowered expectations. Then Mikko. I don't think it's "cup or bust' - but more like Cup or totally re load with 40 million in cap space and a money ball GM geek.

[@carterburleson1920]

Dont talk about brent burns and how hes one of our top blue line players. He is very sloppy and makes at least five bad turnovers a game that lead to grade A chances for the other team.

[@jimmyhockey]

That’s not true, he is one of the more consistent vets in the league, for a guy his age playing valuable minutes he has been great since joining Carolina

[@samobarin8650]

He’s a great player for his age but I’m not sure if he’s the top pair defenseman for SC champion. Fortunately we have Slavin next to him

[@calvinathy7881]

@@samobarin8650Slavin is so good. That is all.

[@PxThucydides]

He is far and away the best damn viking in the NHL.

[@howardcraigiv518]

@@jimmyhockeyRight he is 1 of the best Veterans in the League. He definitely has secured his position in the Hall of Fame in my opinion. When Burns went to Carolina he instantly changed that Blue Line with his Physical play. He still is one of the best defensive players in the league

[@russwinn]

REMEMBER! We have a NIKISHIN will be here for the playoffs!

[@owenwilson4059]

Canes fan here. Nobody is scared to shoot against Andersen. He's just not that good. He needs to be replaced.

[@prongATO]

I would laugh my ass off if Colorado traded Mikko for picks and players then resign him in free agency.

[@jimmyhockey]

That would be a masterclass fleecing by the avs

[@natemcshane9948]

Don’t really agree with the “cup or bust narrative”. The team is built for long term success. First, they have a ton of cap space next year for a fantastic free agent class. They also have a ton of great prospects, and their core is locked up long term. Not to mention the worst player on the team will be coming off the books next season (his name rhymes with turns)

[@MrTimothyG]

Cup or bust kinda crazy ngl

[@jimmyhockey]

I dont think so, its important to show a guy like Mikko that he can find success with the organization

[@MrTimothyG]

@ fair, I was just thinking he has a high chance of staying, hope Tulsky can get something done!

[@jadenlukacovic4484]

Can you do a video on the downfall of the Boston Bruins?

[@jimmyhockey]

I have made quite a few but i can make an update for sure

[@cptbluehawk57]

Nobody cares if your first or second

[@GP-ed2ch]

This is a retool year. Why tf are people all of a sudden saying cup or bust? We have Brent burns playing top minutes, and don’t have a legitimate goalie. The rantanen trade was tulsky taking a swing for a top fa because we have an insane amount of cap space. Even if we sign mikko to his $14mil a year deal we will still have plenty of cap, and not to mention Nikishin in the roster and many other prospects likely coming up. I saw our true ‘contention window’ starts next year

[@willparks1107]

Not cup or bust at all. With many players in ahl/khl that are ready to play and around 30M in cap space in the off-season, id say the Canes are far from a cup or bust season.

[@TroySteele17]

Let’s Go Canes!!

[@jimmyhockey]

Let’s go canes

[@williewalker8048]

I agree-cup or bust. If they keep trading away their assets and get only a rental player in return, the cupboards will soon be bare. Another great well-researched video Jimmy.

[@jimmyhockey]

For sure gotta capitalize on your opportunities, thanks for watching bud

[@reallyfrodo]

The canes can get to the finals, they just need to get through the Caps. If they were in the west, i doubt it. Getting through Edmonton, Dallas, Vegas, The Wild and LA depending on how they're playing... unlikely. So they are a cup team, but I doubt they're a championship team. As an Avs fan that watches every game, Rantanen is amazing but is not the franchise superstar people are saying he is.

[@jimmyhockey]

The East has some tough teams, don’t forget about Florida Toronto, and New Jersey, they will be difficult to face too

[@danielwoo1237]

Rantenen is not looking good on the canes, he simply isn't fitting right now compared to what he can do. And anyone who is saying Rantenen is better then Necas we'll i challenge you at the end of the year to see, I guarantee he has as many points as Rants did consistently on this team.

[@pf7338]

It's been three games and he has a goal and an assist coming unexpectedly into a brand new team with a unique system...

[@charlesmartin6431]

I love Necas but how many seasons has he scored 100+ points? Rantanen as of right now is the better player and it's not even close.

[@Alexirongatewelding]

Mikko wants the bag

[@jimmyhockey]

Yes he does

[@mufnkiller808]

Its not cup or bust for them this year what a stupid sentence. They wont even win the east.

[@hemantishwaran5741]

It’ll come down to goaltending which is just ok

[@jimmyhockey]

When healthy it’s very good but health is the question here

[@dylangriffin5778]

They are doing what nashville tried but failed to

[@jimmyhockey]

How so? Nashville is tried to build through free agency, Carolina is building around their drafted core

[@dylangriffin5778]

@jimmyhockey I just meant by getting players to build around a core and doing it successfully, especially if they resign mikko, guess it's early to say but the moves Nashville made around their core didn't seem to work. I get it's through trade and not signing but they made the right move

[@robertweber5507]

Some of you delusional Canes fans think this is the move that will put you over the top haha... you will make it to the playoffs every year but will never win a cup... you are not deep enough down the middle and your D core is much weaker than last year... I will most definitely be back here after you get bounced again 💯... the Avs won the trade by a country mile.

[@45-CommentDeleted-47]

Mikko is NOT playing alongside Nate MacKinnon anymore. Aho is good, but he's NOT NateDogg!

[@jimmyhockey]

Mikko is a beauty and will still be great, but yes it’s tough to replicate playing on a line with someone as talented as Mackinnon

[@FlyHenryFly]

aho and mikko have been long term best friends and they were roommates and on the same world juniors winning team the chemistry isn't gonna be a problem. and nate's numbers wern't incredible until mikko's breakout 17-18 year

[@napalmjayhee]

Necas > Rantanen

[@gixxerblade]

Canes aren’t going to pay $14m for Moose. They weren’t willing to pay Guentzel $9m

[@pf7338]

Completely different cap situation last offseason, different GMs, different levels of players (Guentzel is not Rantanen). If I remember correctly, the Canes did end up offering Guentzel what he wanted but he turned around and took it with Tampa anyway. The Canes have the space to offer Rants what he's worth, the ball will be in his court to accept it or not.

[@carriecronin959]

Why not? Canes don’t overpay for solid pieces yet they seem to be considered cheap. Canes are overall deep. They will have $35-40M with 14 current players locked in and Nikishin (High Russian prospect Dman) coming in May, plus other prospects. We will pay $14M for Moose, TD owner tired of being close with deals and losing. What other cup contending team can add a $14M player? He wants to win now, not hope a team like Chicago gets dominant in a few yrs or have 4 player top heavy team and no depth ( see Toronto can’t make it past 1st round).

[@elmo9863]

As a just gut feeling I think Carolina lacks certain toughness needed on the play offs.

[@mdd47]

that's complete nonsense

[@elmo9863]

@@mdd47 ok, nevermind then. Sure we see them lifting the cup then?

[@mdd47]

@ that's a vapid strawman argument

[@elmo9863]

@ so what do you think?

[@mdd47]

@@elmo9863 that you had a vapid strawman take that's not worth arguing over. have a great week guy

[@Isaacthehockeykid]

Second

[@jimmyhockey]

Let’s go 🤝

[@Chris-qz8hd]

1st

[@jimmyhockey]

🤝

[@robertweber5507]

Carolina will get exposed in the playoffs again... these stat guys running teams will get your team to the playoffs every year because goals win games and their obsession with those differentials... but ultimately it's your defense and goaltending that win you the cup... watch and see.

[@mdd47]

you clearly know nothing about the Canes or their roster/struture/philosphy, they are a defense first team. They are not going to get knocked out of the playoffs because they didn't play defense. what a brain dead take, boss

[@thegingerbreadman1043]

Canes should of had a conversation with Rantanen before trading, he likely will not resign

[@Xerxsion]

Why not, they have nearly 35M cap space this summer

[@thegingerbreadman1043]

@@Xerxsionhe was shocked by the trade, might not even want to live in Carolina or join the team … Carolina takes a hell of chance of losing their whale

[@Xerxsion]

@ yeah but it’s not like Colorado would’ve let anyone talk to rantanen before trading him away. And Necas is definitely worth the risk of getting a player or Rantanen’s calibre.

[@jimmyhockey]

I think it was all so fast that even Rantanen didn’t know until it happened. I heard there were plenty of teams trying to grab him so Carolina had to act quick to get it done

[@toddashley407]

Based on what REALLY?? I think he is actually more likely to sign with them than any other team at this point. The Canes org have shown him massive respect right out the gate in every way and shown they want him and are willing to pay AND SACRIFICE (the lambs named Necas and Drury) for him - something his previous team failed to do. We aren't even getting into the "Aho factor"... Raleigh has become an awesome place to live - especially if you plan to have a family. It's also predicted to be in the top two national economic development zones along with DFW area for the next 3 decades - unless you for some dumb reason love cramped metro clutter It's the place to be. It's a smart place to be and this Moose ain't dumb.