*THE OFFICE* S5 REACTION - Eps 3 "Business Ethics" & 4 "Baby Shower"

[@pnkl8y544]

The Jim and Pam thing felt differently when the eps weren’t binge able and you were watching them week to week.

[@thedoctor4327]

Michael was right, Holly is the best thing to happen to Dunder Mifflin since World War II. Also best thing to happen to him.

[@IrishRepublicMedia-v5u]

Korean War was better.

[@dominiqueodom3099]

I can't explain the warm fuzzy feeling I get when I saw Holly's reaction to that hug from Michael,especially after they both dealt with Jan's insanity for the day. I'm so glad Michael immediately went to go make things right with Holly as soon as Jan's crazy ass left. He owed Jan nothing and Holly didn't deserve to be treated like that.

[@TheNoiseySpectator]

15:17 Jan was using reverse psychology on Michael.

[@brendon686]

Meredith has given us so much 😂 The episode michael knocked her down with his car was gold

[@toptenguy1]

0:50: I love how Jim was like "What the heck are they doing?" Then "Ethical, Ethical", Jim just looks at the camera and was "oohhhh..." lol

[@dwarfchron801]

Michael throwing Holly's left overs away is one of the best spiteful moves ive ever seen 🤣

[@Swejin]

Lol I thought I was the only one who was pretty much fed up with Jim and Pam at certain points like Enoooouuugh.

[@tatlertom3090]

the office is pretty much physically organized by the "level" of the character: angela, oscar, and kevin are used as quirky and capable. creed and meredith deliver a similar one liner kind of comedy. pam and jim are central, 3 dimensional story lines. Michael is the central character - a first among equals. kelly and ryan are peripheral, young, and sort of one foot out the door, mentally. so is toby, trying to find his life. everyone sits in a cluster that kind of defines their contribution to the story and the funny. phylis and stanley are older, near retirement, and a bit of a different generation, in terms of how they act.

[@daniellazo888]

Dwight is the Assistant to The Office, a solid side-kick character that becomes central and whose arc ends with the end of the series.

[@jerodast]

I looove the scene where corporate okays the illicit sex-for-paper-and-steaks deal haha. The way the guy "I don't see the problem"s the whole thing. The realization and turnabout that unreasonable, gross Michael, is being backed up by cold, rational bosses. The somewhat stunned look on Holly's face. It's a fun way to pivot that story. You didn't include the main lines there, but glad you brought it up later - all about the $$$! I love Holly, but perhaps a splash of cold water about who she works for is not a bad thing for her :P

[@dynamodan8216]

Fun fact: The baby pictures are actual pictures of the cast, including the Angela one that Andy laughed at.

[@jerodast]

Haha, that is a fun fact, I had not heard that. A little method acting for Angela Kinsey (I always get mixed up which last name is the real one...)

[@jimwillride]

Haha! I prefer Kevin to Meredith too, to me he is more surprising. Hey I know you feel differently, no worries. Not my first time to watch it, so I don't know if that changes it or not. I'm not a normal viewer though. I can continue watching episodes ad infinitum. Respect to the channel you have built. Keep doing comedies. Cheers to you.

[@jerodast]

I can't remember if I was one of the two criminals Jimmy identified haha, I could've probably gone either way on Meredith v Kevin depending on my mood. Definitely funny we had that debate just a few episodes before this, which is one of the few distinctly Meredith episodes. I feel like she gets a few Big Episodes because she has a few Big Problems - her accident, her alcoholism, her at-times-reckless promiscuity - whereas Kevin is more low key about things, and has more moments where you just go "yeah that's Kevin". Jimmy clearly doesn't like Kevin being Kevin as much as I do :)

[@jimmylee9120]

Kevins usefulness on a scale of 1 to 10 is Kelvin 😭😭 hes only there for comedic relief

[@jmgonzalez4]

Dang. Cosmological scale shade on Kevin.

[@stevenwoods8463]

Darryl shouldn't put out an offer to be held unless he really wants it.

[@BrendanBeckett]

He didn't technically, he just asked if Michael wanted to

[@jerodast]

I just rewatched _This Is the End_ - such a goofy movie but you gotta love Craig Robinson in it.

[@swansong487]

Been an office fan for nearly twenty years. Seen every episode many times. I agree. As much as I liked their characters, I couldn't get emotionally invested in Pam and Jim.

[@shahriachowdhury9552]

Its so interesting, my first time watching the office I watched it as if Jim and Pam were the main leads and their story was the most significant so loved each interaction but watching it through on my second time etc I didnt care for it as much as the office antics (Michael is head and shoulders above everyone else and then Dwight as a clear no. 2).

[@TheNoiseySpectator]

15:17 Jimmy, it is reverse psychology.

[@gavinsheridan4680]

But its a quarter til 5 and I’ve already begun to gather my things.

[@jerodast]

In the episode about time theft 😄😄 By the way y'all, the time theft bit is total corporate propaganda just FYI. Corps are well documented routinely depriving workers of legally entitled benefits, nudging people to do extra uncompensated tasks, and overall exploiting people with lesser economic power, far beyond "losses" from day to day ebb and flow of a workday which is universal. "Time theft" obsession is what leads to Amazon warehouse workers being told they need to shave a minute off their bathroom time. Self-defeatingly it also causes burnout and higher turnover. "Time theft" is a corporation's way of saying "we really wish you were all robots over which we had 24/7 ownership", to which the only response necessary is "yeah yeah, we already know."

[@KevinMKerrigan]

So gross, but maybe the best line of the series: “The tide at Omaha Beach.”

[@frogofbrass382]

How do you tell someone you care deeply about, “I told you so”?

[@whatUPitsJORDAN]

Andy’s being happy is not something to be positive about.

[@bobapjok4241]

You mean you just dont like being hit in the head with them all the time basically. I love it, but i can see why it could be annoying to someone. you make a good point on that. you get it, you dont need to keep being told about it. Hey, everyone has their own interpretations of the show and what they want to see, but we can all agree that the Office is just awesome tv

[@rhambosia1]

I love your shirt, where did you get it?

[@positivelynegative9149]

1992. 😁

[@rhambosia1]

@@positivelynegative9149 okay, but I was a preteen then, and I don't remember that shirt on any Martin fan. If I saw it back then, I would have gotten one.

[@iceman10129]

took about 5 seconds after googling "cartoon martin tv show shirt"

[@positivelynegative9149]

@@rhambosia1 It's a joke. 🤨

[@rhambosia1]

@@positivelynegative9149 no worries, thanks😅

[@DanielDeLeon69]

The Look on her face 😅😅😅

[@cvanz]

Jim and Pam are the foundation of the whole series. They represent real couples with real issues. The hatred against them usually comes from the younger demographic who think the show is centered around Michael, and stopped watching after a certain point. Watching the series in its entirety (sometimes several times), you realize the characters had to evolve and mature somewhat after nine years.

[@mwest3191]

You pay more attention to your annoyance with Jim and Pam than they were actually even a part of these two eps, lmao. You’re not alone, but it goes without saying. Just enjoy the multitude of other plot lines. 😅 (love your reactions, just giving you shit.)

[@chand911]

I could write a whole ass dissertation on this phenomenon. It's crazy. There are two distinct fandoms of this show and they each watch it completely different from each other, but exactly the same within their groups.

[@Godskilla91]

⁠@@chand911lol I’ve been thinking the same thing ever since Jimmy started this show. It’s truly interesting how people view this show through different lenses.

[@SoulPatroller]

Agreed. They take up too much space in his head rent-free. I love them as a couple and find Jim's devotion to Pam endearing. If they were goofy and dysfunctional -like the other couples on the show - Jimmy would love them. It's okay to have some poignancy sprinkled in with the slapstick.

[@MoviesWithDallin]

The mix up of Astird from Astrid is lowkey hilarious. Astird sounds like Bastard which means...

[@dirtyjerde13]

“It must be like the tide at Omaha beach” is an underrated line

[@Thee_Deputy]

Man what a shite take on Meredith and Kevin. Oof.

[@JimmyMacram]

Man liked his own comment.

[@MrBellsa61]

"to be fair Andy's not unhappy, he's very happy" best line from the two episodes came from Jimmy 😂

[@suncore598]

I love how you are over Jim and Pam but into Michael and Holly. BTW Michael and Holly are my favorite pairing on the show.

[@jerodast]

I could gush all day about how genius Holly's character is as a Michael love interest. First try was Jan, which was cool and shocking at first, but then they realized the only way the Jan they established could really put up with Michael is if SHE IS INSANE. So they made her insane. Which, had some good moments, but overall a more unbelievable and forced character. So then they said "let's try coming up with someone who might GENUINELY like Michael" and they NAILED IT. Then Amy Ryan gives it flawless, lovely execution. Brilliant. Also fun watching these double features - forgot their big fight was the ep before their big hug.

[@stevenwoods8463]

I'm way more interested in Michael and Holly than Jim and Pam.

[@dancemachine1919]

Makes sense. Jim and Pam are already together after seasons of will they/won't they. Michael and Holly are just getting started

[@ivankawnartist]

Cringe is a hell of a drug.

[@jerodast]

I don't know who Jimmy is talking to, feeling defensive about Jim and Pam at this point haha. Are some of his Patreons die hard supporters or something? At the time it aired, I can't remember anyone who was really into them much anymore by season 5, and a lot of people were declaring them over in even the first few eps of season 4. I felt like me saying I liked ANYTHING between them in season 4 would get me jumped on some forums :)

[@TheLibrarianOG1]

Jim and Pam are great characters individually, they are just not great as a couple and they never will be, for me, at least. Holly and Michael are the kind of story you wish to have in your own life, they are great as individuals and even greater as a couple. Anyone would be lucky to have a Holly in their life

[@kevinmalone8564]

​@@ivankawnartist 😂😂😂😂😂

[@accountablehog]

“Bruuuuuuce…”

[@dennisbenjamin1165]

You just hate Kevin and you hate love, you just do! You inhuman-dog-man.

[@jerodast]

Well that's a bit much.

[@lewisthellama2569]

It sounds like you feel the same way about Jim and Pam as you do about Glenn and Maggie, just a bit less intense

[@thales8153]

Damn, now I get it, he's just different. How can you hate Glenn and Maggie😂

[@jerodast]

@@thales8153 I love Glenn and Maggie, but then again I got tired of the show a few episodes into season 3 :P

[@TheLibrarianOG1]

Holly is the best character in the history of best characters. Can't explain it. I just love her and nobody understands Michael better than her and I love her even more for that

[@laurenherda2415]

I don't get the Jim and Pam hate from so many people, one of the greatest tv couples of all time, sorry not sorry

[@XHUERO3]

❤❤❤

[@diegoospina4237]

Kevin is way better

[@positivelynegative9149]

👍

[@iminumst7827]

In some ways, I feel like maybe the Jim and Pam relationship is too real. It's so aggressively slice of life, their conversations are not really entertaining, it's just exactly the nonsense chatter you'd expect to overhear from a good couple. Their relationship isn't comical like Ryan and Kelly, and it also isn't fantasized. The chatter worked before they were dating, because there was the Roy factor, but once they really started dating there was no interesting dynamic. It strikes this weird place of being good and bad at the same time, because it's a great depiction of a couple, but not great television. Relationships can be comical without being bad relationships, Parks and Recreation has multiple wholesome couples that have very funny interactions.

[@sriver004]

I think nobody will fault you for being annoyed with the Pam and Jim forced storyline this season. Whether you like them ir dislike them, definitely felt very artificial. Just cooked up by some writers to create some conflict. I love Pam and Jim but yeah they drag this out a bit this season. Same for Angela cheating on Andy stuff. Goes on for too long.

[@joevaldez9822]

You ain't wrong about this forced connection with Jim and Pam. I remember feeling I need more Michael and Dwight.

[@mns2137]

Don’t worry Jimmy, I feel like Jim and Pam’s drama will soon be over. I still remember another hr rep saying in future episodes something along the lines of: “just look at Jim and Pam you guys. They are a couple, but you would never tell that from just seeing them at the office, no touching, no looking, you could maybe guess they are brother and sister?” 😅

[@whatchahowsya8688]

Here's the hard truth: Kevin, Meredith, Creed, Oscar > Jim and Pam..

[@JimmyMacram]

Goddamn

[@BrendanBeckett]

Pam and Jim were unsufferable in this episode, I think most would agree

[@jonathanpark7245]

Don't worry about it. Jim and Pam are the worst. I mean they are fine but their story brings no funny.

[@eleven-hopper]

they're fine separately but so awful together

[@josephjoestar1681]

Pam and Jim are the worst especially Pam

[@jonathangill6584]

The Pam/Jim tension feels so manufactured and forced. I don’t know why the wrote that storyline.