Tony Sibson vs Alan Minter 1981 (Original Upload BBC Commentary)

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Jimmy Pince

Jimmy Pince

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@JimmyPince
@JimmyPince 4 жыл бұрын
RIP Great Warrior Champion Legend Alan Minter (17 August 1951 - 9 September 2020)
@newtnicton9022
@newtnicton9022 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Thanks for the info and vid. I have Alan Minters autograph.
@soccer1970-f5f
@soccer1970-f5f 8 ай бұрын
How did you manage to get hold of the fight, when it was blocked from being on Sportsnight. Sure i remember waiting up for it, to be told by Harry C, the bad news.!
@teehamp1306
@teehamp1306 3 ай бұрын
Please forgive me if I don't share in your tribute to this guy.... because I am a black man, it's hard paying homage to a racist white man
@teehamp1306
@teehamp1306 Ай бұрын
@brentperkins83 so.... I'm supposed to just "get over it" to the people who is in favor of keeping another group of people in oppression???
@duncansmith8992
@duncansmith8992 4 жыл бұрын
I met Alan in a pub before the Herol Graham vs Mike McCallum fight. An absolute gentleman. It was an honour to meet such a man.
@thaumaturgeishere331
@thaumaturgeishere331 3 жыл бұрын
Shame about his politics...
@stephenshillingford980
@stephenshillingford980 3 жыл бұрын
Shame on him for being a racist
@duncansmith8992
@duncansmith8992 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephenshillingford980 Shame on Ali for being a racist.
@Telcontar1962
@Telcontar1962 2 жыл бұрын
@@thaumaturgeishere331 He was a man of his time and there is nothing to condemn him for. If you really want to see racism in all its poisonous glory, blacks are THE group who can give everyone else lessons. Besides he paid for what he said. Hagler destroyed him inside 3 rounds and his boxing career along with it. That surely was punishment enough.
@davidmccann9811
@davidmccann9811 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenshillingford980 If Minter was a racist then so was Muhammed Ali, Larry Holmes, Bernard Hopkins, Jermain Taylor and Floyd Mayweather. To name but a few.
@finnglynn9344
@finnglynn9344 Жыл бұрын
I met minter when we boxed as amateurs in torquay he and Harry carpenter had a drink with all the boxers from Fitzroy Lodge it was about 89 imperial Hotel great night Alan was a great guy ,Harry carpenter a complete gentleman happy days ,I think all the tough fights minter had caught up with him by the time he fought Sibson.
@TheJohhnyrotten
@TheJohhnyrotten 2 жыл бұрын
It's only taken me forty years to see this fight.
@RoomAtTheTopStudio
@RoomAtTheTopStudio Жыл бұрын
You too?
@kakonis
@kakonis 9 ай бұрын
Mickey Duff said it was banned from being shown in the UK because of some ad on the fighter's trunks that technically violated a BBBC rule about advertising.
@kevyarham
@kevyarham Жыл бұрын
I remember watching this when the bbc was good. Big fights mid week was the norm when I was a kid.
@howardbrooks8118
@howardbrooks8118 2 ай бұрын
It was famously never shown on BBC because Minter had advertising on his trunks - DAF Trucks! Shame really - one of Sibson's finest moments!
@waynereynolds3211
@waynereynolds3211 4 жыл бұрын
Great fight between 2 British legends rip Alan minter
@John-wg1jh
@John-wg1jh Жыл бұрын
Legends?
@Kedbuka
@Kedbuka Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload. Two terrific, world class fighters
@MrMandelsohn
@MrMandelsohn Жыл бұрын
Wow I tried to watch this over the years and only see it now for the first time. Thanks🙏
@MikeHansen1970
@MikeHansen1970 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. 2 great fighters.
@JimmyPince
@JimmyPince 2 жыл бұрын
Your welcome Mike 👍
@jerryoshea3116
@jerryoshea3116 4 жыл бұрын
Alan Minter was a tough&skillful Boxer/Fighter..But I always thought he took way to many "shots"..What would he have been like with a Coach of such quality like Emanuel steward!.
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 3 жыл бұрын
His defence was often poor., left himself open.
@johntate5050
@johntate5050 Жыл бұрын
Too many not to many.
@andrewtaylor-fy9kk
@andrewtaylor-fy9kk 7 ай бұрын
I used to follow sibbo everywhere, used to go and watch him train in the Queen Vic in syston, what a great guy he was
@liverpoolscottish6430
@liverpoolscottish6430 Жыл бұрын
Tony Sibson- what a fighter, gave Minter a Grade 'A' spanking in that last round.
@boum62
@boum62 2 жыл бұрын
Two lovely fellas.
@mac1975
@mac1975 7 ай бұрын
I have a hand written letter from Harry. It’s my most treasured possession, he was writing to tell me how much he appreciated my attempt at the southern area championship but was beaten on points. Means so much to me
@Salieri47
@Salieri47 Жыл бұрын
Respect for both fighters. In a different era they might've been world champ.
@hyena131
@hyena131 Жыл бұрын
@Salieri47 Yes, in an era with average middleweights...
@susanreinert6962
@susanreinert6962 Жыл бұрын
MInter was the world champion
@hyena131
@hyena131 Жыл бұрын
@@susanreinert6962 Barely...
@Kaiserbill99
@Kaiserbill99 Жыл бұрын
@@hyena131 Minter was WBC/WBA and Ring magazine MW champion. He defeated Vito Antuofermo to win the titles and stopped him in the rematch. He lost his titles to none other than Marvin Hagler. You are clearly a casual and have no business commenting on boxing related forums. A simple google search would have prevented you making a tit of yourself.
@martinlove7073
@martinlove7073 Жыл бұрын
Alan minter was our only undisputed world champ got beaten by the great Marvin haggler
@MRSIBBO1
@MRSIBBO1 Жыл бұрын
Iam so proud of him
@vestibulate
@vestibulate Жыл бұрын
@MRSIBBO1 Your name suggests a familial connection, as does your expression of pride. Are you indeed related to this fine boxing champion?
@MRSIBBO1
@MRSIBBO1 Жыл бұрын
Aye hes my cousin
@vestibulate
@vestibulate Жыл бұрын
@@MRSIBBO1 He was one hell of a fighter- not just tough, but skilled. I hope he's well and enjoying life.
@dread4836
@dread4836 Жыл бұрын
we were all proud of him, my favourite of all time British Boxers
@RoomAtTheTopStudio
@RoomAtTheTopStudio Жыл бұрын
@@MRSIBBO1 Your cousin is an inspiration. Even to this day I see a Sibson fight come up on the video feed and I still want to see it.
@MrANDYGEEZER
@MrANDYGEEZER Жыл бұрын
Sibson was tough, game & always up for the fight, scrap & battle, a truly very good boxer/fighter at British & European level but he met the greatest middleweight of all time in MMH & came second, no disgrace or shame in that as MMH was just invincible & legendary & they became great friends in the years that followed, Sibson & Michael Watson were my two favourite British boxers but both were talented, tough & very very good but just not quite good enough ☹️, the GREATEST British boxer/fighter without a doubt was Joe Calzaghe who is head & shoulders above any boxer/fighter/brawler/scrapper from the UK, the best value for money exciting boxer & win or lose was Nigel Benn imho 😉
@titanicicaproduction
@titanicicaproduction Жыл бұрын
Pity Calzaghe and Froch never met inside the ropes
@strtoneill
@strtoneill Жыл бұрын
Calzaghe, greatest ever.
@titanicicaproduction
@titanicicaproduction Жыл бұрын
@@strtoneill he was brilliant indeed. And the story of him and his father Enzo is incredible.
@auctionnews
@auctionnews Жыл бұрын
Sibson was a really tough guy, fast and aggressive, he was at the Belgrave qym with me in the 1970.80 tough tough man who wanted to scrap
@dexocube
@dexocube Жыл бұрын
Sibson's feints were a thing of beauty
@RoomAtTheTopStudio
@RoomAtTheTopStudio Жыл бұрын
Sibson's skills were a joy to watch. I had a boxing tutorial book in the eighties that Sibson was the fighter in the photos showing the moves. He might have even wrote it. Respect to in my opinion a legend of British boxing
@klunny998
@klunny998 3 жыл бұрын
Sibson a strong guy
@jermainelong1843
@jermainelong1843 Жыл бұрын
Gordon Bennett!! I've never seen this fight before but what a finish! Savage!
@ppuh6tfrz646
@ppuh6tfrz646 3 жыл бұрын
11:04 Harry 'he doesn't know where he is' Carpenter.
@neilcarpenter2669
@neilcarpenter2669 Жыл бұрын
Alan Minter was a very good boxer but after the beating he took from Hagler he was never the same, he was probably better than Sibson when he was in his prime but boxers can go downhill practically overnight especially after a bad defeat.
@anthonyclarke5579
@anthonyclarke5579 Жыл бұрын
"Sibbo, Sibbo, Sibbo", two champ's, one winner.
@spiderreed350
@spiderreed350 3 жыл бұрын
Tony was a tough customer.
@sparkesman1980
@sparkesman1980 Жыл бұрын
In those days, if you lost, you had to fight your way back up the chain again for a title shot. Unfortunately, it then all changed when the likes of the boxing promoter Don King and others, started introducing into the original fight contract, a clause that guaranteed an immediate return fight. This completely changed the whole boxing format, and is the reason why today, you do not necessarily see the two best boxers of that particular weight, fighting it out in the ring. $$$$$$$$$$$$%%
@leoseries
@leoseries Жыл бұрын
I share your dislike of Don King but return clauses were around long before he polluted the boxing scene.
@anthonykelly9842
@anthonykelly9842 2 жыл бұрын
He was the same age as my old man and I’ve watched a few of these old fights. He was unlucky to be in the haglar era, haglar had the title for many years , Alan was awesome fighter 👍🏻
@hyena131
@hyena131 Жыл бұрын
@anthonykelly9842 It's *Hagler. At least spell the great man's name correctly, ya dunce.
@paulanthony5274
@paulanthony5274 Жыл бұрын
You get people spelling it Haggler as well 😂
@stevencarter87
@stevencarter87 4 жыл бұрын
Minter was great but past his prime Sibson was up and coming! Pass on the mantle of Britain's best! Both amazing fighters end of 🥊
@kendodd8734
@kendodd8734 2 жыл бұрын
Ur bang on with that comment
@harryheath9928
@harryheath9928 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah after getting thrashed by Hagler he was on the downside but he's had a glorious carreer beating Vito for the glory and title
@kendodd8734
@kendodd8734 2 жыл бұрын
@@harryheath9928 hede started to cut real easy aswell towards the end Micky duff took to a specialist to get an explanation for this and the only conclusion he could come up with was he now fighting better opponents which u or me could have told him
@John-wg1jh
@John-wg1jh Жыл бұрын
Great? Cmon.
@petehaynes5882
@petehaynes5882 Жыл бұрын
i saw Kevin Finnegan beat Tony Sibson - - Kevin was a better boxer IMO
@paulgraham6316
@paulgraham6316 Жыл бұрын
That was a brutal finish by Sibson. Respect
@misfit2022
@misfit2022 Жыл бұрын
Harry was right it was the end for former world champion Alan Minter who sadly died a few years ago. Tony Sibson was good but his bout with Hagler showed Hagler was different class though not sure how many knew over 40 years on Hagler would still be the greatest middleweight from his era onwards.
@ricko3k
@ricko3k 3 жыл бұрын
I remember the fight and Sibson was brilliant. My favourite British Middleweight. Such a shame for Alan Minter, he'd been a great fighter, but he just didn't look right from the off, like a hospital patient shuffling around the ward.
@simonlevett4776
@simonlevett4776 Жыл бұрын
Really, he seemed all right in the first two rounds.
@dread4836
@dread4836 Жыл бұрын
Sibbo was my favourite British Boxer of that era, he didn't seem up for it against Hagler, something was off on the night
@colinhiggins4779
@colinhiggins4779 3 жыл бұрын
Sibson was a beast. Probably would have been MW champ if Hagler hadn't been around
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 3 жыл бұрын
Hearns!
@qamyasharahla4876
@qamyasharahla4876 3 жыл бұрын
Duran, ?.. Leonard? Benitez?
@colinhiggins4779
@colinhiggins4779 3 жыл бұрын
@@qamyasharahla4876 Benitez was a Super Welterweight. Leonard didn't come into the picture until 86-87. Duran might have beaten Sibson, but really wasn't a natural middleweight
@christopherchristos7275
@christopherchristos7275 2 жыл бұрын
@@colinhiggins4779 Leonard beat Benitez in 1979 to win his first title!
@donovanwilliams9006
@donovanwilliams9006 Жыл бұрын
@@christopherchristos7275 Leonard retired as a welterweight in '82 and came back as a middleweight in '87.
@barriemeredith907
@barriemeredith907 Жыл бұрын
Alan minter signed my boots
@NickPenlee
@NickPenlee Жыл бұрын
I thought Minter was picking his shots quite nicely until getting caught with the left.
@joemorgan636
@joemorgan636 9 ай бұрын
I remember when this fight wasn’t shown everybody was trying to find it back in the day I was only 14 years old. Funny enough, I went away without him into the year after 1982 for winning the junior ABAs Great Britain
@glenshea1967
@glenshea1967 Жыл бұрын
Anyone from Middlesbrough, north east England will know that John Topsey Lowe fought Minter. Topsey is well known in Middlesbrough for being a good boxing coach. He ran his gym above de niros nightclub which he also ran.
@stevegasparutti8341
@stevegasparutti8341 2 жыл бұрын
Minter was great when he didnt get involved - but he was prone to get pulled into a slug fest. At his best - he was a similar fighter to Calzaghi (obviously - not in the same league)
@johnmartin9321
@johnmartin9321 2 жыл бұрын
Minter similar to Calzaghe ??????????? must be a different Calzaghe oh Calzaghi
@simonlevett4776
@simonlevett4776 Жыл бұрын
Calzaghi was overrated in my opinion, and got a very lucky decision against Robin Reid.
@RoomAtTheTopStudio
@RoomAtTheTopStudio Жыл бұрын
@@simonlevett4776 Nigel Benn would have done Minter within four rounds. Calzaghi is a totally different story, but then again everyone has an opinion
@pinaconorth007
@pinaconorth007 Жыл бұрын
1 on 1 ,most lethal sport in the World 🌎
@jasperspace6196
@jasperspace6196 Жыл бұрын
Used to love watching the fights. And Errol bomber graham. At ingles camp Sheffield 👊🏻
@tonyhyde6836
@tonyhyde6836 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this at the time , and felt so sorry for minter a great great British boxer , but they all come to an end sometime
@soccer1970-f5f
@soccer1970-f5f 8 ай бұрын
It wasnt on tv, because Minter had DAF on his shorts.
@blindposty
@blindposty Жыл бұрын
omg..that was sooo sad..brought a tear ....
@martinhowarth81
@martinhowarth81 Жыл бұрын
Alan hero of my home town Crawley 🙏🙏 RIP champ
@derekoshaughnessy9809
@derekoshaughnessy9809 Жыл бұрын
Sibson was so strong
@jimcameron4672
@jimcameron4672 Жыл бұрын
Great sportsmanship from Minter after the finish
@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069
@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 Жыл бұрын
I boxed on the same card as minters son Ross 1st amature bout at the New Addinton working mans club in 95
@paulweir7122
@paulweir7122 4 жыл бұрын
Something that I always liked about Minter was his never making excuses re losses on cuts; unlike one heavyweight moaner whom most of the British public were blinkered to.
@ppuh6tfrz646
@ppuh6tfrz646 3 жыл бұрын
A bit harsh perhaps, but I know where you're coming from.
@simonlevett4776
@simonlevett4776 Жыл бұрын
Which heavyweight would that be ?
@dread4836
@dread4836 Жыл бұрын
100% agree
@royalordinance
@royalordinance Жыл бұрын
70's, 80's, 90' - Very entertai ing sports overall. ESPECIALLY Boxing!
@ricko3k
@ricko3k 29 күн бұрын
I remember this fight, Sibbo was awesome. Poor old Alan, he looked well past his best from the start, fast hands but very stiff.
@grantross2609
@grantross2609 Жыл бұрын
the funny thing is minter doesn't look half as good as he did against hagler and we all know what happened then.......
@petyrkowalski9887
@petyrkowalski9887 2 жыл бұрын
Sibson was on fire that night. He smashed Minters nose so badly he got a massive abcess and needed surgery.
@justinneill5003
@justinneill5003 Жыл бұрын
Alan Minter was the poster-boy of British boxing in those days, he had the marketable looks and character unlike Sibbo. A bit like the different way the media was treating Fury and Joshua a few years back. The media didn’t take Minter’s defeat too well. The DAF trucks advert on Minter’s shorts was just an excuse for the BBC not to show the fight.
@soccer1970-f5f
@soccer1970-f5f 8 ай бұрын
BBC had a strict no advertising policy, hence some football matches were blacked out when kit men fked up. Nothing to do with their looks lol.
@joeblow2069
@joeblow2069 2 жыл бұрын
Remember that Mintor won the title and then defended it vs Vito Antuofermo a fighter with little offensive skills. Sibson was a much better offensive fighter than Vito Antuofermo.
@Granto-ni9qw
@Granto-ni9qw Жыл бұрын
Sibson became friends with hagler, after there fight
@OrbvsTomarvm
@OrbvsTomarvm 3 жыл бұрын
no head and feet movement. brilliant hands though. rip champ.
@PaulCloves
@PaulCloves Жыл бұрын
One of the best quotes I ever here’d in boxing was to do with minter I’m sure it was from the governor of commentary reg gutterage ( the tank commander who I think lost a leg in the Second World War not 100% sure about that fact though ) who said that his old manager ( mickey duff ) took him to a cuts and laceration specialist doctor to try and find out why minter was cutting so easy in his fights and apparently this specialist said to mickey maybe it’s because he’s fighting much better opponents now . Blinding , not to take anything away from minter he was a good fighter just had come to the end of the road in this one like all fighters do and unfortunately he also had in his era probably the best pound for pound fighter there has ever been in the truly great hagler
@stephenhubber9184
@stephenhubber9184 Жыл бұрын
I thought I saw Jimmy Saville in the corner, briefly. 😀
@peterwest5525
@peterwest5525 3 жыл бұрын
Who was the guy who won it ? Never got a mention, even after he´d won.
@spiderreed350
@spiderreed350 3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir,I seen Sibson in some big fights.
@johncraig9011
@johncraig9011 Жыл бұрын
A great punch
@Mozndon
@Mozndon Жыл бұрын
" Sibson - 23 years old, 46 fights". Unheard of today, true warriors. Loved Sibbo!
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 3 жыл бұрын
Minter took some abuse over the years in fairness.
@tonyman2c
@tonyman2c Жыл бұрын
What a great fighter Sibson was!
@ronmexico1874
@ronmexico1874 5 ай бұрын
The end of Minter the Splinter. Sibson showed this bum way too much respect. If he had let his hands go from the start, he would have walked right through him.
@carlosdeno
@carlosdeno Жыл бұрын
Sibo was lazy, even admits it. Minters nose after this fight, Jesus! I loved watching both of these men, Hagler made short work of the pair of them, says it all! Hagler was an absolute beast!
@arielcromwell
@arielcromwell Жыл бұрын
At his best, Alan Minter was a good boxer who turned in a respectable performance against (maybe GOAT) Hagler. But Sibbo shows that a puncher always has a chance.
@superaj5314
@superaj5314 3 жыл бұрын
Searched up minter as in miniminter.
@arielcromwell
@arielcromwell Жыл бұрын
11.42 Micky Duff before becoming Mrs Duff 😮
@bernalwilliamm1666
@bernalwilliamm1666 10 ай бұрын
Sibson at his best (even against a diminished Minter).
@Anthony-Testicali
@Anthony-Testicali 4 ай бұрын
Tony sibson broke the great Alan Minters nose.
@mikeweston3514
@mikeweston3514 Жыл бұрын
Loved minter true warriors both tho
@ppuh6tfrz646
@ppuh6tfrz646 Жыл бұрын
11:09 No, it isn't. That's a ridiculous comment from Harry Carpenter. Fighters have *DIED* in the ring.
@jasonhall4734
@jasonhall4734 Жыл бұрын
I didn't think minter was all that
@Kaiserbill99
@Kaiserbill99 Жыл бұрын
Amazing how a fighter can deteriorate so dramatically once they taste adversity. Sibson KOd Minter cleanly and yet although beaten badly and cut badly against Hagler was not KOd just a year before. Minter also beat Vito Antuofermo twice without being in trouble once.
@stevo62ful
@stevo62ful Жыл бұрын
Herol Graham would have likely beaten both of these two.
@soccer1970-f5f
@soccer1970-f5f 8 ай бұрын
😂 herol ''hello sailor'' graham.
@paulbuxton1326
@paulbuxton1326 Жыл бұрын
Sibbo our leicester legend 👌🇬🇧
@patrickbrowne4606
@patrickbrowne4606 9 ай бұрын
The great Hagler destroyed them BOTH!
@JamesJackson-xd7jq
@JamesJackson-xd7jq 4 жыл бұрын
Let's face it , you take Minter 2 years earlier and he would've beat Sibson.. May God Bless His Soul Up In Heaven....
@johnmc3862
@johnmc3862 3 жыл бұрын
Meh.
@TheW.Slayer-nw5ih
@TheW.Slayer-nw5ih Жыл бұрын
LOL!
@stevegriffiths4755
@stevegriffiths4755 Жыл бұрын
"Boom Boom Minter" he was called after winning at the Olympics, never rated him that highly, personally, but he was a good amateur.
@markhemming318
@markhemming318 Жыл бұрын
You could apply that hypothesis too most fights. Every fighter has a sell by date.
@michaelb2388
@michaelb2388 Жыл бұрын
Minter was a munter
@ashleyhammond999
@ashleyhammond999 2 жыл бұрын
Minter. A career ended like a taped-up punchbag. Vile tongue. Karma.
@adamdean988
@adamdean988 2 жыл бұрын
Minters footwork is the worst I've ever seen in boxing
@michaelemery1497
@michaelemery1497 Жыл бұрын
My boy Hagler from my city Brockton mass, beat the shi*t out of both these guys
@Salieri47
@Salieri47 Жыл бұрын
Some respect, please.
@sidbroughton8750
@sidbroughton8750 Жыл бұрын
Hagler is a legend, but respect any person who gets into the ring.
@michaelemery1497
@michaelemery1497 Жыл бұрын
@@sidbroughton8750 Of course..i watch the Mikey Ward vs Gatti fight alot
@COBBETT1215
@COBBETT1215 Жыл бұрын
Hagler wasn't "your boy". He wasn't anybody's "boy". And have some respect. True boxing fans who understand the game have too much respect for fighters to talk about them like that. I'm a working stiff who grew up in Louisville, but that's just a coincidence. It don't mean I got the right to go around claiming Muhammed Ali was "my boy".
@michaelemery1497
@michaelemery1497 Жыл бұрын
@@COBBETT1215 Don't be a goof..U ain't from Brockton like us..Eastside!!
@lestergreen1190
@lestergreen1190 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, did Minter suck.
@MyCold1
@MyCold1 2 жыл бұрын
He was at the end of his career here
@kendodd8734
@kendodd8734 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a bit harsh minter was descent fighter in this fight his career is winding down and he’s way past his best watch the some of his earlier fights u mite have a different opinion
@lestergreen1190
@lestergreen1190 2 жыл бұрын
@@kendodd8734 You are probably right.
@g4obb
@g4obb Жыл бұрын
Don't you mean Mintoes ???
@steventotsrusselldj.
@steventotsrusselldj. Жыл бұрын
The commentator in this was brutal, in fact nasty springs to mind.
@stevegriffiths4755
@stevegriffiths4755 Жыл бұрын
Harry Carpenter was the commentator, best boxing commentator ever, I think your comments are unfounded.
@martin-d4h
@martin-d4h Жыл бұрын
@@stevegriffiths4755 Well said. Harry was great at presenting and commentating, and a gent.
@lovelystuff1562
@lovelystuff1562 Жыл бұрын
Nasty? He didn't speak a word out of line.
@TheW.Slayer-nw5ih
@TheW.Slayer-nw5ih Жыл бұрын
LOL!.....Minter was a JOKE!.
@PatrickLake-n1h
@PatrickLake-n1h 22 күн бұрын
Alan had a class amateur style but was proof that being a " geezer" does not beat people like hagler 😢
@bazbarrett8103
@bazbarrett8103 Жыл бұрын
Not saying Minter would have won ..but he he fought the wrong fight..toe to toe..
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