Violence In Videogames, Wankers In The White House (The Jimquisition)

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Jim Sterling

Jim Sterling

Күн бұрын

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@JustDevon
@JustDevon 6 жыл бұрын
One thing becomes apparant while watching this video: the video game footage had no effect on me, the real life footage was disturbing. Why? Because I, like almost all gamers, can differentiate between real life and video games. We play games for fun, it doesn't mean we want to see that stuff happening in the real world. People who can't differentiate have mental health problems and need help, it wasn't caused by gaming and to say it was is a handy way to turn a blind eye to mental health and ignore the fact that more needs to be done to help people. And hey, 80% of mass shooters have no interest in gaming, but what does that matter when you have a scapegoat
@mrcheesemunch
@mrcheesemunch 6 жыл бұрын
Really? It had an effect on me. As soon as I saw that clip from Dead By Daylight I transformed in to a big Jason looking monstrosity and I immediately went and killed a bunch of filthy innocents. You'll hear about it in the news soon. This is what video games do to you my man, they turn you in to a completely different person and all those dead people by extension...not my fault! It was the video games, they did it!
@Navarchil
@Navarchil 6 жыл бұрын
If I were a parent, I probably would want my kids to stay away from violent games until they can properly distinguish real life and video games I think. But of course, pinning blame on games for mass shooting is dumb shit worthy of Trump O_o
@JustDevon
@JustDevon 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying its the same for everyone, but I started playing games like GTA at 12 or 13 and I'm not violent at all. That said, age restrictions are there for a reason, especially as games become more realistic
@Healermain15
@Healermain15 6 жыл бұрын
Well, kids that young have no business playing those video games in the first place, so that shouldn't be too hard. I mean, letting a five year old play games with such graphic violence isn't reccommended even if they can distinguish between realilty and fiction.
@RagnarokiaNG
@RagnarokiaNG 6 жыл бұрын
"mental health" is also something they trot out alongside gun violence to deflect from the blatantly accurate notion of limiting gun availability. Sadly though that doesn't mean they ever do anything about it, they blame mental health then proceed to do nothing to help the mental health services in America each and every time. I saw a John Oliver Last Week Tonight episode on it and it is so shamless how mental health is constantly used as an excuse and regardless of if it is true or not, nothing is ever done with it so even those who do actually have problems continue to get ignored.
@RustyShackleford101
@RustyShackleford101 6 жыл бұрын
I played Assassins Creed and it made me want to glitch through walls while doing parkour. #IAmTheProblem
@d_marv3lous237
@d_marv3lous237 6 жыл бұрын
Andy Revell I love you😂😂
@Zelkiiro
@Zelkiiro 6 жыл бұрын
To be fair, it *would* be pretty awesome to be able to glitch through solid matter...
@akrybion
@akrybion 6 жыл бұрын
Zelkiiro Not if your body becomes... Well like some AC rag dolls become
@kamurotetsu4860
@kamurotetsu4860 6 жыл бұрын
I played Mario for a bit and wanted to jump on people. It must be those damn video games.
@Mary42877
@Mary42877 6 жыл бұрын
what if you got stuck on terrain? or fell into the center of the earth...
@HeIifano
@HeIifano 6 жыл бұрын
I've played video games for nearly 20 years and I can now blacksmith weapons and armor from all types of metals, parkour up any existing structure in the world, and even pilot various forms of air and spacecraft. Clearly something needs to be done about this epidemic. /s If Call of Duty makes you proficient with a gun, why can't my experience with Cooking Mama get me a job as a professional chef?
@Gammera2000
@Gammera2000 6 жыл бұрын
You forgot hijacking every kind of conceivable form of transportation, and then causing absurd amounts of chaos & destruction with it.
@cptnraptor
@cptnraptor 6 жыл бұрын
You also forgot about the ability to craft just about anything from basic components
@HeIifano
@HeIifano 6 жыл бұрын
I've been playing a bit of Monster Hunter lately and after a couple hundred hours I consider myself an expert in the field of wielding weapons that weigh more than I do and hunting dinosaurs and dragons.
@weean8084
@weean8084 6 жыл бұрын
Sort of a silly point. I don't think video games cause violence, btw, but the main argument is that exposure to violence in games has negative psychological effects, not that you become a Navy SEAL from playing CoD.
@garbagefreak
@garbagefreak 6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I think maybe I'm the Dragonborn from playing too much Skyrim and I just don't know it.
@HippoInABottle
@HippoInABottle 6 жыл бұрын
Before video games, it was rock music. Before rock music, it was movies in colour. Before movies in colour, it was comic books. Before comic books, it was non-silent movies. Before non-silent movies, it was ragtime music. I'm probably missing some in there, but you get the point.
@femtoservants
@femtoservants 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah they will blame anything to not face facts that first of all, violence always existed and that everybody as always been able to do the worse and they did not need a traumatic childhood or seen violence on screen to do that. And second of all, the easy access of gun makes anyone who wants to be violent way more dangerous.
@zacharyheine4177
@zacharyheine4177 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot catcher in the rye
@ShoehatProductions
@ShoehatProductions 5 жыл бұрын
People act like violent entertainment is a new thing but people used to literally watch hangings for fun. That’s not to mention gladiatorial combat, bear-baiting, cock fighting, etc. It’s nothing new. In fact we’re allot tamer now days. At least our violence is fictional.
@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV
@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV 5 жыл бұрын
Books written in first-person perspective were blamed once because it was feared readers couldn't differentiate between their thoughts and what's written in the book.
@greatgoblin3065
@greatgoblin3065 5 жыл бұрын
Next is VR
@isthisnamegood
@isthisnamegood 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus the footage of the guy begging for his life was pretty damn intense. Then I watch a game scene of an airport getting shot up and I feel nothing. It's a game. Even without context I know it's not real. But that guy begging for his life as a single hand gun shot hits him was painful to watch.
@Spike2276
@Spike2276 6 жыл бұрын
you have just succintly described how a normal functioning human should react to those 2 situations my friend, apparently normal functioning humans are in short supply as of early 2018
@Luigiiii
@Luigiiii 6 жыл бұрын
if it makes you feel better the shot missed, he was crawling under the table for protection. the only person who died in that incident was the shooter himself, he missed multiple shots and was then ambushed by a security guard and committed suicide.
@drunkenhowler22
@drunkenhowler22 6 жыл бұрын
Took the words right out of my mouth. I feel way more disturbed by that 30 seconds of footage than the thousands of hours of shooting bad guys. Can't stand real world violence, it's honestly terrifying to me.
@sirrealgaming6913
@sirrealgaming6913 6 жыл бұрын
Oh wow that was real? I thought it was a low Budget movie
@wintermute25
@wintermute25 6 жыл бұрын
The devil is in the details. Nobody in their sane mind would fully recreate IRL violence in the video game. They will always cut small, unnoticeable from outside corners, to make it convincing but not quite real.
@DtWolfwood
@DtWolfwood 6 жыл бұрын
So the Vegas mass murderer was totally a 64 year old video gamer... yes that tetris warped his mind.
@Spike2276
@Spike2276 6 жыл бұрын
Terminimal well slots are basically lootboxes in real life, i guess that dude was just fed up with never getting that one legendary skin he really wanted
@beezusHrist
@beezusHrist 6 жыл бұрын
Everyone fucking forgets that a 64 year old man is responsible for the largest mass shooting in American History. Fucking idiots I say.
@KindredBrujah
@KindredBrujah 6 жыл бұрын
Plenty of folks in their 60s are gamers. Though if 80% of mass shooters in general show no interest in games, and the prevalence of video gamers in the over-60s is similarly rare, then the odds of this particular individual being a gamer must be pretty remote.
@Way_of_Tomoe
@Way_of_Tomoe 6 жыл бұрын
DtWolfwood The trauma of waiting for that long Tetris block totally ruined his mind. Can't say I blame him.
@theonlyCentaur
@theonlyCentaur 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe he got mad because Konami decided they would create a shit game like metal gear survive?
@AllenHerns
@AllenHerns 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe if Trump play Tetris, he can learn how to actually build a wall.
@rosaate
@rosaate 6 жыл бұрын
Allen Herns I don't know, the Russian music might get him to excited about his next visit to Putin's golden showers
@DoomRater
@DoomRater 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't even catch the Russian influence hinted at in that comment right off the bat. That's just brilliant.
@leanghiconrad5321
@leanghiconrad5321 6 жыл бұрын
Allen Herns is that why it hasn’t been built yet? Every time he gets a full tow it disappears?
@songohan3321
@songohan3321 6 жыл бұрын
I completely approve this message.
@TwinSnake777
@TwinSnake777 6 жыл бұрын
Allen Herns you sure, he can’t build a wall even if all the shapes were the singular line .
@AM-bo2ns
@AM-bo2ns 6 жыл бұрын
the irony of the White House using Call of Duty, a game built on violent American oorah pro-military jingoism, to justify its argument
@MariusUrucu
@MariusUrucu 6 жыл бұрын
Don't you find it funny that shallow minded and/or shady people try to find scapegoats for problems they themselves are responsible for.
@glitchyjoe64
@glitchyjoe64 6 жыл бұрын
strawman
@Psycorde
@Psycorde 6 жыл бұрын
It's all about money, which makes it so much worse.
@glitchyjoe64
@glitchyjoe64 6 жыл бұрын
Ill pick substituting snarkyness for a lack of an actual argument for 300.
@12ealDealOfficial
@12ealDealOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
Guns or videogames?
@Psycorde
@Psycorde 6 жыл бұрын
Videoguns
@Kokorisu
@Kokorisu 6 жыл бұрын
This whole idea of videogames desensitizing players to violence just got me thinking about how the other day I woke up to get to work to the news that some... 117 people? were killed in an attack in... Iraq? Afghanistan? Could've sworn it was Iraq, but the fact that the details elude me without me looking them up already sums up the point well enough. I'm pretty sure the way we treat actual real world violence in the media is a lot more troublesome.
@irllcd13
@irllcd13 6 жыл бұрын
It's been proven that in an extreme situation, whether natural disaster or manmade, people that play a lot of video games have a noticeably higher survival rate than non-gamers, because we are used to making split second cost-benefit analysis and threat analysis and keeping cool under stress.
@JMcAfreak
@JMcAfreak 6 жыл бұрын
Those darn terrorists need to stop playing CoD. It's totally their virtual boot camp that's training them to mow down soldiers and civilians.
@GGamersUnited
@GGamersUnited 6 жыл бұрын
Koko nailed it brother!
@KuraIthys
@KuraIthys 6 жыл бұрын
It's pretty amusing to note that what research there is on 'desensitisation' in regards to media in general points to the fact that the news has a far bigger impact in that regard than any work of fiction. Yet works of fiction are routinely censored and we try and keep them away from children... But the news shows almost anything it likes, presents it as an accurate representation of reality, and runs at all hours of the day and night with no attempt at censorship, restraint, or keeping it away from anyone of any age. Based on the research that exists on the subject clearly the first thing that should be banned, long before anything else, is the news. But of course, these kinds of things rarely if ever come from anything even remotely resembling a rational place, so... Yeah...
@TheAxebeard
@TheAxebeard 6 жыл бұрын
When I wake up and there's a shit in the toilet, I don't notice. When there's a shit in the kitchen, I notice.
@drewhammond5203
@drewhammond5203 6 жыл бұрын
But they're right, Jim. After playing Skyrim for ten hours straight I wanted to start riding a horse sideways up a mountain and shoot fire out of my hands. I wanted to see a wagon full of cabbages glitch fly hundreds of feet in the air. These corrupting influences are too much. How long before I start hunting vampires with a crossbow? Forging my own armor? Spawning 10,000 blocks of cheese on top of a mountain? The possibilities of harm and destruction are endless!
@danielramsey6141
@danielramsey6141 6 жыл бұрын
Well if we had access to magical powers, this would be the first acts of violence I would commit! :)
@XraynPR
@XraynPR 6 жыл бұрын
Skyrim enabled me to cram about 2 dozen pounds of cabbage into my face to regenerate my overall health
@drewhammond5203
@drewhammond5203 6 жыл бұрын
pewpewetc Thank you for your service. I've started turning iron into gold and summing familiars, I need to be stopped.
@ArchangelSteve
@ArchangelSteve 6 жыл бұрын
I played Tetris once and now every time I pack groceries into bags they disappear!
@JolloFan
@JolloFan 6 жыл бұрын
Read that last sentence as "ham and destruction" and it made this even funnier
@fakeigniz13
@fakeigniz13 6 жыл бұрын
Back in the good old days, you could kill a man with a sharpened copy of an outdated fifa games for a $1, these days you have to poison him with ground down switch cartridges. Violence with videogames has gotten a whole lot worse
@daggern15
@daggern15 6 жыл бұрын
Nah, you can still find Fifa games if you know where to look. Try the local dump where they belong
@raistlarn
@raistlarn 6 жыл бұрын
It would be pretty hard to poison a man with switch games when supposedly they taste really bad. How about poisoning a person with one of the new EA games instead.
@krusher181
@krusher181 6 жыл бұрын
daggern15 Every year I got a new disk I can use. It’s actually pretty genius to release one a year, cuz my shiv never lasts much longer out in the yard.
@mrkirios
@mrkirios 6 жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed that they didn't blame *Marilyn Manson* as well, you know, to be fully immersed in the 90s again.
@Spike2276
@Spike2276 6 жыл бұрын
dem musical weirdos are getting into mah kid's brain and making him worship satan and perform ritual sacrifices, also yu-gi-oh cards have the power to actually summon the devil
@mrkirios
@mrkirios 6 жыл бұрын
Ave Satana, my dude
@bennitooo6913
@bennitooo6913 6 жыл бұрын
The Speaker DUDE my mom actually thought yugioh cards were satanic because of the kanji and the stars...
@Spike2276
@Spike2276 6 жыл бұрын
luckily my family isn't superstitious but i had like 2 or 3 friends growing up who could not own yu-gi-oh cards because their parents just straight up forbade them from buying them because they were satanic, and no joke in my country there were ACTUAL NEWS SOURCES claiming that a kid had died because the devil literally took his soul through a goddamned card because of a deal they made, i shit you not, that actually happened, i mean if you can come up with that stuff you might as well give up on news and start writing fiction because that's pure literary gold
@kristopherpoulsen653
@kristopherpoulsen653 6 жыл бұрын
Blame Kanye, you know, to be hip with the kids
@Psycheitout
@Psycheitout 6 жыл бұрын
I find it funny that most of the examples that's the government is using for violence and videogames is from Call of Duty which are basically $60 advertisements for the US Military.
@SkyrimEs5
@SkyrimEs5 6 жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting for our US, 360 No Scope, special forces.
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 6 жыл бұрын
Ian Thomas Fukken' perfect.
@MrKumimarja
@MrKumimarja 6 жыл бұрын
@SkyrimEs5 I just spit out my coke, almost messed up my keyboard. Well played.
@dragonstryk7280
@dragonstryk7280 6 жыл бұрын
Actually, our country has a long history of blaming its issues on inanimate objects. We blamed the demon alcohol for our woes in the 1920s, we blamed that darned rock and roll music starting in the 50s, and on going with other musical genres into the late 90s. We blamed the marijuana starting in the 70s, with holdouts even today, with the massive sweep of drug PSAs continuing forth through the 90s. Then there was the D&D satanism scare through the 80s and into the 90s. As those were waning, we picked up blaming violent video games and Marilyn Manson. It is far easier to blame an outside force, rather than look at ourselves in the mirror and sort out what is wrong with us.
@prplfleur
@prplfleur 6 жыл бұрын
Sean McTiernan didnt know about that D&D shit, im gonna have to look into that. And i also didnt know marylin manson was an inanimate object
@irllcd13
@irllcd13 6 жыл бұрын
Don't forget plastic toy guns. Those things are dangerous, ya know. But the real ones made out of metal? Perfectly safe. We cannot have any restrictions on those at all.
@dragonstryk7280
@dragonstryk7280 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, the D&D scare was real. Check out Chick Tracks: www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp Yes, that was a real thing. And more, I was talking about Manson as the band/music.
@wdbisl
@wdbisl 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think alcohol was to blame for the 20's depression but I don't see it as innocent as movies or video games. Alcohol causes a ton of problems which people choose to ignore. A lot of violent crimes are more likely to happen while drunk which most likely wouldn't have happen if they were straight. Things like random fights with people or people losing their temper leading to domestic violence or even suicides due to it. That's not even counting the many car crashes people have caused due to it. People can make all the excuses they want but it does alter your mental state. I don't believe it should be used to excuse actions but I don't see it as blameless either. Chances are in your life you will know someone that's an alcoholic or have someone in the family that is its that common.
@dragonstryk7280
@dragonstryk7280 6 жыл бұрын
Having grown up with a parent in recovery, that's not accurate. The reason people drink to such excess is generally rooted in something deeper that's wrong. For my dad, he was a gay man born in 1945 to a heavily Irish Catholic family (Irish Catholic essentially assumes EVERYONE is going to hell unless they can prove otherwise). It caused massive dissonance in his life, and he tried to 'play it straight' all the way up until 2000. Others are dealing with things like undiagnosed depression, mania, and other ailments, or simply large scale stressers in their life. The alcohol is not so much the cause, as the attempt to alleviate the problem for even a little while, a run at self-medication, rather than a draw by the alcohol itself. As well, bear in mind that prohibition gave us the mafia. No one who wanted to drink failed to get a drink, because in fact, we're totally dogshit at banning things. Humans have been altering their mental states as long as humans have existed. Banning this or that particular form of it does nothing. Just look at the War on Drugs. It hasn't stopped drug use, it didn't even slow it down, and in certain instances, it made the thing worse by more and more kids having knowledge of drugs they might not otherwise have heard of.
@stagpie6449
@stagpie6449 6 жыл бұрын
GTA V is really popular in the UK. We've not had a single mass shooting in decades. It's almost like guns are an integral part of a shooting??
@TheWasBunny
@TheWasBunny 6 жыл бұрын
Well the NRA / Republican argument is "You can't legislate against evil." So there's simply much more evil in America than anywhere else in the civilized world. What patriots.
@tarrker
@tarrker 6 жыл бұрын
Guns don't magically make people want to kill each other. We have police who don't do their jobs and aren't made to until one of them kills someone. We have parents not parenting, teachers ignoring their children and kids trying to literally murder each other. But all anyone wants to fucking talk about is the goddamn guns. Then people like me get to listen to gripes like this from people like you who don't have a fucking clue because they've never had to explain to a fucking 8 year old girl why it isn't ok to break a boy's nose just for bumping into her. I mean FUCK. There are LOADS of suicides. Bombings all the time. But you won't see that on the news. There's no GUNS IN IT! "There's no guns here and we never have mass shootings. Maybe it's the guns?" Says literally every person who hasn't had to grow up in this bullshit fucking culture were it's ok to literally murder someone so long as they maybe committed crime. Kindly FUCK OFF -_-
@halloire
@halloire 6 жыл бұрын
Those weren't covered up by the police. Hell, the fact that it came to light was after huge investigations after the negligence of social services in particular. Yes, the police and crime commisioner did resign but that was always going to happen due to the sheer scale and longetivity of the scandal. The problem wasn't anything along the lines of a cover up as you quite stupidly state, it was more the unwillingness to act on meer rumours which let it continue as long as it did. I'll trust the fact that I know the area, I (sadly) know some of the culprits and I know enough about what happened. Hell, I have the joy of ensuring the safety of the culprits, or at least some of them. I live stupidly close to Rotherham where it happened and I'm a prison officer in a jail close to Rotherham. Simply put. Your comment about the police covering it up is utter bollocks. Were they at fault for not investigating concerns as early as they were brought to them (late 1990's)? Sure. On topic of the general conversation: Would guns have helped? Like fuck it would. These were taxi drivers picking up kids from schools, care homes and fuck knows where else and abusing them. I don't give a flying fuck about your gun control over the pond anyway, I just shake my head whenever you decide to kill each other because of petty reasons. Still, I guarantee if there were guns freely available in the UK we'd have a load of shootings because of bullying and such, thankfully they're not.
@QosmicVoid
@QosmicVoid 6 жыл бұрын
Okay, Blackacidlizzard, I have a question - You say these cases were covered up. You feel like explaining *how the fuck you know about them then?* So either the police did a shit job at covering it up or you're talking utter crap. Let me tell you about rape in you fucking yank's country. *95% of the fucking cases aren't even reported because you country. Is. FUCKED.* Most walk COMPLETELY free, and many victims are outright TOLD that the police will refuse to do anything. because of this, rape reported cases have dropped - It's not because it doesn't HAPPEN. 321,500 people on average sexually assaulted in America in a year - Accounting ONLY for the ones that bother to REPORT it. This is compared to 100,000 average cases in Britain last year. You wanna fucking talk about rape in Britain? America statistically has THREE FUCKING TIMES MORE. And funnily enough, your guns do horse fucking shit to stop it. And to top it all off - You didn't even cite a SOURCE. Because you fucking *can't.* If you're going to talk about this shit, get your fucking facts right.
@Jimunu
@Jimunu 6 жыл бұрын
Hows the mueller investigation going
@AlexOlinkiewicz
@AlexOlinkiewicz 6 жыл бұрын
Trump is just jealous that gamers who played games like Minecraft have been more successful at building walls then he could ever do.
@billhicks8
@billhicks8 6 жыл бұрын
Somewhat on that note, I actually believe Donald Trump would find Minecraft too difficult to understand.
@hobblesofkarth3943
@hobblesofkarth3943 6 жыл бұрын
there is no way to make or lose money or get his dick sucked while playing it...so just a waste of time for him.
@AlexOlinkiewicz
@AlexOlinkiewicz 6 жыл бұрын
well not surprising, I mean kids have no issue playing minecraft and we all know a kid would do a better job at running this country then Trump.
@nnelg8139
@nnelg8139 6 жыл бұрын
I played "Survival" MP the month it came out, and the very first thing I built was a massive wall to keep the (then-nonexistent) mobs out.
@ryanwrites5531
@ryanwrites5531 6 жыл бұрын
*OOOOHHHHHH SHITE THAT IS TRUE*
@jujuplayboy
@jujuplayboy 6 жыл бұрын
Should we blame the government, or blame society, or should we blame the images on TV ? NO ! BLAME VIDEO GAMES ! We must blame them and cause a fuss before someone thinks of blaming us !
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 6 жыл бұрын
Should we blame the easy access to extremely deadly weapons? All those other countries that have a lot less mass shootings have video games, and mental health problems, but don't have easy access to extremely deadly weapons. ...Nah it's gotta be those fucking video games!!
@dumpsockpuppet5619
@dumpsockpuppet5619 6 жыл бұрын
BLAME CANADA!!!! ...blame Canadian Videogames?
@BlackPeagas
@BlackPeagas 6 жыл бұрын
Idk what to blame, but here is a interestinf fact. Recently in my country a girl commited suicide wich is tragic. I remember classmates joking that if this was america she would of done a shool shooting. I hear these kind of jokes about school shootings monthly (in europe). At this point in teen culture i see it is normal that america has school shootings due to mass of guns and europe does not due to lack of guns. The world has made america and shool shootings normal.
@cindercatz
@cindercatz 6 жыл бұрын
mjc0961 Except there are a number of countries that also have easy access to firearms but don't have these events, and the first alternative to guns for mass shooters are bombs, which are just as easily used and a lot more deadly. Oh, and then there's trucks and crowds, we've seen that recently. This Florida shooting was specifically warned about in advance here on KZbin (details: Florida + Valentine's Day + shooting), which means it had to be planned. (Good luck looking that up now.) It's not the guns.
@camohawk6703
@camohawk6703 6 жыл бұрын
this comment was Bigger, Longer, and Uncut
@Kuolonen
@Kuolonen 6 жыл бұрын
4:19 Man who blames games for violence is sentenced for gun trafficking? You couldn't make this shit up, keep it real 'murica!
@prplfleur
@prplfleur 6 жыл бұрын
Kuolonen he probably only did that as a publicity character cover for his illegal activity. Doubt he believed a thing he was saying
@aaronb6475
@aaronb6475 6 жыл бұрын
Kuolonen he also voted for and introduced countless laws to restrict private citizens from legally owning guns.
@cmcbunch
@cmcbunch 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah Leeland Yee was a huge California scumbag. A co author of an aggressive "assault weapon" ban and prominent Democrat. He was caught by the FBI trying to sell BELT FED MACHINE GUNS and SHOULDER FIRED ROCKET LAUNCHERS to muslim seperatists in the phillipines (which are now at war with the philipino govt) for campaign contributions. This was during Obama's presidency. Jim is a pretty good video maker and I agree with his stance on a lot of video game stuff but you can tell he's swallowed the leftist propaganda about psychopathic mass killers. He can't really be faulted. So far as I can tell he's from the UK or thereabouts, and there is no serious firearm culture there. Hard to learn about a subject without first hand experience.
@m0rthaus
@m0rthaus 6 жыл бұрын
'The Devastator' forget for a minute the evil leftists and your opinions toward their propaganda. Consider instead that if a significant problem exists that a large segment of voters are complaining about (such as loot boxes), ultimately it can go one of two ways - either the government steps in and attempts to legislate (make illegal) or regulate (restrict and control) the problem - OR the industry can step up and attempt to self-police itself and increase their own controls or work with the government to ensure that any new regulations are in line with the needs of their industry and community as well. Surely the NRA is doing gun owners no favours by pushing back on almost every single piece of legislation that restricts gun sales - if they don't get involved in changes that have an impact on the shootings, eventually people will have had 'enough' and the government will step in, and when they do, expect it to go down like the UK or Australia - extreme and out of touch with the gun industry and gun enthusiasts. At least get some logical regulations in place at the request of the NRA (age restrictions, mandatory gun safes, registration of firearms, background check requirements, no sales to violent felons, no concealed carry unless you require it as part of your job, etc), or else you'll likely have far worse in store if nothing is done - and 'nothing' is repeatedly what is seen as done on this problem by the majority of society.
@kalashnikovdevil
@kalashnikovdevil 6 жыл бұрын
I have great news m0rthaus. Background checks are mandated by Federal law. Felons having guns is extremely illegal. There are age restrictions on the purchase of firearms. (Connected to the voting age, if we raise one we honestly should raise the other) and concealed carry prevents 500,000 crimes a year according to the CDC, so we should probably leave concealed carry in place since it does the exact opposite of causing crime. Nor does registration actually do anything, which is why Canada ended their registration scheme. It was a waste of money. Mandatory safes... do nothing still So the good stuff you want is already in law, the other stuff is either counter productive or a lot of light and noise with no practical effect. Which is of course why the NRA pushes back against most new gun laws. They don't actually do anything besides restrict the rights of the citizens. We have 22,000+ gun laws on the books in the United States. The Parkland shooter could have been prevented by approximately 70 odd contacts and reports to law enforcement and social workers. The government didn't enforce it's own laws, didn't do it's job and that's the citizens fault? We need to give up basic human rights because the government fucked up? Same fucking thing happened in Sutherland Springs. A guy who had three different things that meant he couldn't own a gun legally, was able to get a gun, because a Federal law enforcement agency didn't fulfill it's obligations and and report this criminal. What ended his rampage? Oh right, a private citizen, NRA marksmanship instructor, with a AR-15 shot that guy and drove him off, then flagged down a guy in a truck and they chased his ass down because Texas.
@clutchman1906
@clutchman1906 6 жыл бұрын
I've killed so much in video games........so,so much,never had any effect on me.That 2 second clip of the guy shooting the judge,holy shit that was bad.Guess I'm just lucky I can tell the difference between games and reality.
@TheCanadian911f
@TheCanadian911f 6 жыл бұрын
Nearly everyone can. I don't even like guhs but I like shooters. Its the few "troubled" individuals that ruin it for everyone else. To begin with, we need a strict procedure for obtaining a gun that would make it very difficult for these people to get them.
@demonicinfant1477
@demonicinfant1477 6 жыл бұрын
Clutch Man (I know it’s like 8 months later but I feel like sharing good news for that clip) the only person actually hurt in that clip was the shooter who was shot by a security guard. The judge (who if I recall correctly was actually a school board guy) was holding a notebook in front of him that amazingly stopped the bullet. There’s even some lady that smacks the shooter with her purse which despite the seriousness of the matter, was somewhat comedic.
@gaijinkuri684
@gaijinkuri684 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheCanadian911f I also like shooters. I have also never touched a gun in my life.
@gordonramsay6286
@gordonramsay6286 5 жыл бұрын
Clutch Man he never actually shot the guy, the bullet hit a stack of papers that was on the table.
@MrHenhen5
@MrHenhen5 4 жыл бұрын
I don't suggest you watch it, but you seen the one with the member of government (I can't remember what country) killing himself on camera? That shit isn't gory, per say, but it's so much more shocking than any game could ever be.
@NastyLittleBagginses
@NastyLittleBagginses 6 жыл бұрын
I remember when it was D&D. Then it was heavy metal. Then video games, then violent movies and TV, then gangsta rap, then video games again, and so on, and so on, and so on. Through it all, one thing remained abundantly clear: Whatever causes gun violence in this country has nothing to do with gun fetishist culture.
@Malekariel
@Malekariel 6 жыл бұрын
before dnd it was comic books.
@jorelc6
@jorelc6 6 жыл бұрын
and before ? now I want to know
@irllcd13
@irllcd13 6 жыл бұрын
Stupid, dishonest old fucks are always blaming the form of entertainment/recreation that they don't understand for society's problems. They tried to ban plastic toy guns with the same argument, and predictably, wanted little restrictions on the fucking real guns. There were probably the same arguments made when movies went from silent to talking. I'll fucking bet you there were people saying the same shit. "We can't allow talking in movies, nobody will ever talk to eachother any more! Oh the humanity, won't someone please think of the children? Talking in movies will be the end of civilization!" And for those unfamiliar with history, that didn't happen. Because every time someone uses that argument, it's fucking bullshit. Literally every single time.
@erraticonteuse
@erraticonteuse 6 жыл бұрын
After comic books it was rock 'n' roll...
@Herowebcomics
@Herowebcomics 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, it was fear all along!
@1000Master
@1000Master 6 жыл бұрын
Happy 200th independent Jimquisition!
@JimSterling
@JimSterling 6 жыл бұрын
Oh fuck really? Picked a hell of an episode for that.
@RycoreXIII
@RycoreXIII 6 жыл бұрын
literally just had a heated discussion on gun control over Google hangouts with a friend/ hated rival.
@TheGhostbuster1989
@TheGhostbuster1989 6 жыл бұрын
Jim Sterling perfect topic for the 200th episode Jim Thank God for you Jim. And may you have 200 more episodes.
@t4nkychannel921
@t4nkychannel921 6 жыл бұрын
You don't really have to make a big deal out of this until episode 500, but it is a nice touch.
@RubberyCat
@RubberyCat 6 жыл бұрын
12 minutes in, and i want to like this video a THIRD time (at least), but i can't, so i'll like all the comments in this thread instead, except for my own. Happy Independence, Jim!
@VileVamp
@VileVamp 6 жыл бұрын
I played The Witcher 3, now I'm a genetically altered freak. I mean, I was before I played it, but...
@ingonyama70
@ingonyama70 6 жыл бұрын
Man, between playing Oblivion, Skyrim, Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 1 & 2, Final Fantasy VI through X, and Dragon Age Inquisition, I should be a spell-slinging, dragon-slaying magic superhero badass by now. What's taking so long?!
@Niobesnuppa
@Niobesnuppa 6 жыл бұрын
I played Skyrim, and now I can't stop shooting people with a bow and arrow. Help!
@inquisidor1
@inquisidor1 6 жыл бұрын
A genetically altered freak capable of committing mass shootings according to current administration
@Texelion
@Texelion 6 жыл бұрын
Fuck guns, I want to buy a horse and armor and kill people with swords. SWORDS !
@MsMoonDragoon
@MsMoonDragoon 6 жыл бұрын
I played Horizon Zero Dawn, so don't worry fellas. We're good if the robots ever invade.
@fumarc4501
@fumarc4501 6 жыл бұрын
I gotta prove I’m competent enough to drive a car and show I own a car. Makes you think. If cars were invented when they wrote up the bill of rights, would there be a NCA lobbying against speed limits and traffic signs?
@daggern15
@daggern15 6 жыл бұрын
The speed limits bit already was a thing when the government were dropping highway speed limits to 55mph in the... 60's/70's. Can't remember the exact details if I'm honest as I wasn't around back then. Very simply; if someone mentions changing something, someone is going to complain about it and a lot of the time the side with the deepest pockets is the side that wins (not saying that applies to the speed limit thing, just in general)
@lemeres2478
@lemeres2478 6 жыл бұрын
American facination with guns is weird. While some of their stuff is shit, Extra credits did a decent examination of how they are tied into the mythos of American culture. A mix of romanticizing the tool that allowed us to form the nation. I'll also add that there was a subtle friction between the states and federal government, so everyone really got into preparing for the day the 'gov'mnt' comes to take their guns. Mostly- they are just grown up patriarchal barbies that you dress up with attachments. You pretend and have fantasies that you will go rambo some day when the 'gov'ment'/gangs come to attack.
@Jimunu
@Jimunu 6 жыл бұрын
Well. The bill says a well regulated militia. The gun nut right have scrubbed that well regulated part out since the 70's
@subtledemisefox
@subtledemisefox 6 жыл бұрын
Huh? There are hundreds, maybe thousands of laws regulating guns on all levels: Federal, State and city
@hariman7727
@hariman7727 6 жыл бұрын
Jiminu: George Mason stated that the militia is everyone: "I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials." - George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788 "Well regulated" does NOT mean "under government control". It means well maintained and run. This is one of many ways anti gun advocates twist language to their advantage. Lemeres: The current Democrats/Left have been trying to slowly chip away at Gun Rights for decades, since they can't just try to enact immediate gun control. The cities that have been in democrat/leftist hands for decades, where you can't get a gun for ANYONE unless you are very heavily connected are one major part of proof of that. As a modern example, the Cliven Bundy case is a major example of how the 2nd Amendment works. It took armed citizens to protect Cliven's property, and it took 3 years for the case against him to be dismissed because of the government abuses behind it: www.foxnews.com/us/2017/12/20/mistrial-declared-in-case-against-nevada-rancher-cliven-bundy.html The United States has the 2nd Amendment specifically because of politicians who would take guns away before oppressing the populace. Which is a pattern seen time and time again, in various countries, and often with thousands or millions dying. Daggern: If I remember correctly, lowering speed limits was done as a safety measure to prevent car crashes by lowering the speed limit. Subtle Demise: Even worse, many of those laws aren't enforced. There was a recent story of an illegal alien with a half dozen guns openly in his truck, who didn't have ANY checks done on his legal status or anything when a hotel manager called about him displaying the guns.
@nakenmil
@nakenmil 6 жыл бұрын
Bit of an aside, but remember when they accused Mass Effect of being porn because it contained a sex scene at the end?
@JeedyJay
@JeedyJay 6 жыл бұрын
Fox News completely got away with all that, too.
@somethingclever1128
@somethingclever1128 6 жыл бұрын
they also admitted they didnt even play the fucking game. its just an easy target
@111cvb111
@111cvb111 6 жыл бұрын
They could have just waited a minute and used all the SFM porn people made later as "evidence".
@OmegaStray
@OmegaStray 6 жыл бұрын
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
@THEtemtem
@THEtemtem 6 жыл бұрын
I wanna like this comment but since its at 69, i'd probably just feel wrong
@joshbnimble
@joshbnimble 6 жыл бұрын
I blame Minecraft for me breaking my hand while punching trees.
@HeilRay
@HeilRay 6 жыл бұрын
Should of love tapped it with a chainsaw
@xAssailantx
@xAssailantx 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite is the "video games train you how to shoot" argument. Literally every single friend of mine I have ever taken to the shooting range has said the exact same thing. "Wtf this is nothing like the movies or videos games, this is way harder than I thought." Yea no shit because video games are fucking FANTASY.
@aldereon666
@aldereon666 6 жыл бұрын
Wrong. After playing a single DnD campaign, I have mastered all medieval weaponry and martial arts in real life.
@Hopalongtom
@Hopalongtom 6 жыл бұрын
At most it trains your reactions and critical thinking, but you still need to be able to use your own body to aim! And thats something that videogames can't teach until the Kinect or VR includes a really fucking heavy controller!
@ThorindirNaari
@ThorindirNaari 6 жыл бұрын
you would also need something to emulate the recoil. The only thing that makes you a better shooter is shooting, nothing else compares to that. Even military-grade Simulation-tech can not exactly replicate the feeling and the handeling of a gun
@michaelschwartz8730
@michaelschwartz8730 6 жыл бұрын
OOOHHHH....so that's where this gem that shows whether or not I'm hidden IRL came from. Makes sense.
@redice907
@redice907 6 жыл бұрын
Having thousands of gaming hours in shooting games, I'm a self proclaimed professional gun shooter. I hold my gun like I would hold a camera, press down with my middle finger to steady my aim, press down with my left finger to shoot. It's perfect! I haven't hold a real gun yet, but the thousands of video game experience i've had says it'll be perfect!
@HunterRodrigez
@HunterRodrigez 6 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: A study found that 80% of mass shooters had no interest whatsoever in video games, in other words you are less likely to commit acts of mass murder if you do play video games
@Loinscurvey
@Loinscurvey 6 жыл бұрын
Wait untill he learns that theres porn on the internet
@aciderosion1216
@aciderosion1216 6 жыл бұрын
OnlyHereFor TheWaifus He's probably aware. I mean he see's a c*** on his screen every time it goes black.
@xibeon
@xibeon 6 жыл бұрын
wait.. what? porn on the internet? for real?
@XraynPR
@XraynPR 6 жыл бұрын
OnlyHereFor TheWaifus funny cat videos cause abortions, you heard it here first
@shinbakihanma2749
@shinbakihanma2749 6 жыл бұрын
OnlyHereFor TheWaifus Oh, he knows about the porn.
@ChristianNeihart
@ChristianNeihart 6 жыл бұрын
To quote the Yahtzee: "One lovely afternoon, Some guy shot up a greasy spoon. They found by searching through his room, That he made custom maps for DOOM. A spokesman for the NRA Said that things just can't go on this way Let's ban books, pictures, film, and violent video games, and go back to being sane. "
@JutlandAngel
@JutlandAngel 6 жыл бұрын
The dice game?
@ChristianNeihart
@ChristianNeihart 6 жыл бұрын
Jutland Angel no, the game critic.
@JutlandAngel
@JutlandAngel 6 жыл бұрын
Christian Neihart Ah, I was just thinking that the game was way deeper than I thought.
@BoondoggleMyCognle
@BoondoggleMyCognle 6 жыл бұрын
Sir Randall Gaming He still breaks a million a week m8
@233Deadman
@233Deadman 6 жыл бұрын
+Sir Randall Gaming You realise he's a published author now right?
@Jognt
@Jognt 6 жыл бұрын
Before TVs: "Fighting with friends causes violence" Before games: "TV shows cause violence" Now: "Games cause violence" Or in short: "That thing you have that I didn't have in my childhood must be what's causing allll these problems, because for sure, I've been a good parent!"
@garbagefreak
@garbagefreak 6 жыл бұрын
Don't forgot comic books. They were the root of all moral decay near the middle of the century. They used the very same arguments against them that they now use against video games.
@Jognt
@Jognt 6 жыл бұрын
Oh right. Because we all remember that wave of kids that killed their own parents so they could be like batman!
@tigerfestivals5137
@tigerfestivals5137 6 жыл бұрын
Jognt before tv it was probably "paintings/visual art causes violence" don't forget rock music as well
@XxXShadowchanXxX
@XxXShadowchanXxX 6 жыл бұрын
Don't forget books and movies.
@cian2168
@cian2168 6 жыл бұрын
Comics, Rock N' Roll, TV and video games have all been blamed. The only one that actually got affected was the comic industry which then advanced into the silver age of Adam west batman, shark repellent and Two-Face only committing crimes at 22:22. And even then people said "fuck that, let's be dark again" after a few years. So censorship doesn't work.
@LockeRobsta
@LockeRobsta 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. American politics is a mess. Its amazing anything gets done.
@Ikine557
@Ikine557 6 жыл бұрын
The secret is it doesn't.
@HendorneEndohRoth
@HendorneEndohRoth 6 жыл бұрын
If five million illegal aliens voted in the 2016 election Trump wouldn't be president.... Edit: Added in five million to be more specific
@althelor
@althelor 6 жыл бұрын
Wait things get done in American politics? As an American this is news to me.
@nicksmi56
@nicksmi56 6 жыл бұрын
LockeRobster When do things ever get done?
@Phourc
@Phourc 6 жыл бұрын
+Hendorne Endoh'roth they must not have been in a swing state. :P Speaking as a liberal-leaning american, I'm counting on nothing getting done until someone more moderate gets in charge. Every idea this administration comes up with is utterly reprehensible and should never be put into law.
@mcj88
@mcj88 6 жыл бұрын
I remember after Columbine happened, and how the news media at the time was _so_ sure that the reason Harris & Klebold shot up that school 19 years ago was because of how much they liked the music of Marilyn Manson and that they'd loved Doom so much they supposedly planned the massacre in the game with a custom-made level modelled after the school. It didn't matter that almost _none of that was true;_ while they were big fans of Doom and did make some custom levels, that particular level never existed at all. And it's apparently been said that the duo _didn't_ like Marilyn Manson; in fact they viewed him as a phony sellout. One piece of fiction they _did_ obsessively enjoy, however, was "Natural Born Killers". Y'know, the satirical Quentin Tarantino/Oilver Stone _film_ from 1994, starring Woody Harrelson and Juliette Lewis as a pair of mass murderers who get glorified by the mass media at every massacre. Harris & Klebold loved that movie so much they used "NBK" as code for their shooting plan! I always found it interesting that the media never talked about _that_ particular connection much, even though it was right there in plain sight; and why would they? After all, Harris & Klebold liking that movie says it all: they _knew_ the media's response to their massacre would immortalise it (and them) for all-time - a tape even exists of them debating who'd direct their story as a Hollywood film. (Thankfully that hasn't been made (yet).) Frankly, I think admitting their own irresponsibility by acknowledging that film's connection to the killings would've required more self-awareness and maturity than I've ever expected of the corporate-owned news media, not just then but _especially_ now. After all, not much has changed in that regard, has it? Standards and ethics don't matter when there's profit to be had!
@suorastas1
@suorastas1 6 жыл бұрын
Actually the director was Gus Van Sant and the film is called Elephant. It came out in 2003.
@mcj88
@mcj88 6 жыл бұрын
Eh, that movie was _based_ on that shooting (and others) but it wasn't explicitly _about_ Harris & Klebold.
@suorastas1
@suorastas1 6 жыл бұрын
McJohnson - Well it is based on Columbine more than anything else and they barely bothered to even change the names (one of the shooters is still called Eric).
@mcj88
@mcj88 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but so's the actor who plays him - Eric Deulen. In fact his partner's name is Alex and he's played by Alex Frost, so I'm guessing they just used the actors' names there on purpose.
@suorastas1
@suorastas1 6 жыл бұрын
McJohnson - Yeah I didn’t realize that they just used the actors real names probably because the cast was mostly amateur actors (and I don’t mean that as an insult). It’s still hard to argue that the killers in the film weren’t based on the Columbine killers.
@axelkusanagi4139
@axelkusanagi4139 6 жыл бұрын
Waitwaitwaitwaitwait. I thought it was SJWs that were supposed to be working on getting games banned? Does this mean that Donald Trump is an SJW? Less sarcastically; it's very telling that trrumplestiltskin found footage of nazis being killed distressing.
@Sonichero151
@Sonichero151 6 жыл бұрын
Axel Kusanagi yeah I brought that up in the comment se action of his little montage. Why would he show wolfenstein and sniper elite if he has absolutely no condemnation or disdain for Nazis
@Time2LevelUp
@Time2LevelUp 6 жыл бұрын
I think your point proves that if you go to the far left or far right, they actually have very similar goals. I prefer to be in the middle myself.
@ikerus0072
@ikerus0072 6 жыл бұрын
Calling Trump a nazi is such a fucking insult to people killed by real nazis. Plus one more question, if Trump really is a nazi, why is he letting people own guns? You'd think he would want to disarm the citizens so he can take over like Hitler did... Just something to think about
@BJAdamBarry
@BJAdamBarry 6 жыл бұрын
Time2LevelUp no they don't. You have to be unbelievably politically illiterate person to ever believe that.
@Lancor84
@Lancor84 6 жыл бұрын
Ah, because every soldier that worked for the NAZIs was a NAZI, I see. So you're still into slave trading, or?
@madman407708
@madman407708 6 жыл бұрын
> Opens copy of Call of Duty 8000 >Instead of game there's a gun >Got the Deluxe Ultra Megaton Edition so bullets are included >goes to dangerousindoctrinatinggames.us >load up school shooter simulator 2018 (Ultra-Violence Edition) >5 hours later >I'm ready >Goes out into society and continues to be a functioning member of it because video games don't cause violence.
@ponyfish157
@ponyfish157 6 жыл бұрын
Perpetual Peter >me doing the same steps but seriously trying to do a mass shooting >realizing that I’m not in America, not knowing where to get a gun from and realizing that I need to do a serious effort to kill somebody >going home
@TheSpidersider
@TheSpidersider 6 жыл бұрын
>Greentexts on KZbin >Gets attacked by Kekistan for doing it fyl
@DCdabest
@DCdabest 6 жыл бұрын
As if. Deluxe Ultra Megatron Edition would just give you some concept art of a bullet. Not actual ammo
@dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780
@dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780 6 жыл бұрын
I mean, it would be included as "Real Bullet DLC" to stimulate player's "Pride and Accomplishment"
@smjaiteh
@smjaiteh 6 жыл бұрын
I dunno, dude. You just bought a gun and played a simulator. You might shoot someone out of anger because you paid money and never got a game!
@LunaDeaminac
@LunaDeaminac 6 жыл бұрын
If gamers were actually influenced by the games they play, there would be a lot less overweight people considering the amount of running, jumping and climbing most protagonists do.
@thewisp7447
@thewisp7447 6 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, bariatric surgery is on its way
@artyom2801
@artyom2801 6 жыл бұрын
I'd organize a criminal crew for a heist, using thermite
@matthewbrandt5053
@matthewbrandt5053 6 жыл бұрын
@@artyom2801 so of course you know how to make thermite, make a crew, plan a heist, become a professional driver, a marsksman, a hacker and mastermind because uou played a game right?
@artyom2801
@artyom2801 6 жыл бұрын
@@matthewbrandt5053 I'm kidding but the experience would be really good because my group tasks have in practice led my group in a mentality of "my opinion is 100% correct" and lack of dividing tasks depending on said person's specialties. I've never seen Co-operation more solid than the Payday games (considering in L4d you turn your mentality to every man or woman for themselves).
@matthewbrandt5053
@matthewbrandt5053 6 жыл бұрын
@@artyom2801 too many of my l4d games have turned into a free for all. I do love payday 2 and the characters in it. I usually play wolf and try to be sneaky yet always say fuck it and shoot everything after the one gaurd doesnt move and I have no more pagers to use.
@LonelyIslandKid09
@LonelyIslandKid09 6 жыл бұрын
I played every Persona game... In other words I am pickup artist that deals with demons and shadows.
@ragnarok-3440
@ragnarok-3440 6 жыл бұрын
We could really use the Phantom Thieves in America right now..... make those guilty government people confess there hidden crimes!
@yukiterumi5756
@yukiterumi5756 6 жыл бұрын
Play a real shin megami tensei
@ragnarok-3440
@ragnarok-3440 6 жыл бұрын
Yūki Terumi. I will when they remaster them for newest consoles.
@LonelyIslandKid09
@LonelyIslandKid09 6 жыл бұрын
Played all of them except for A Strange Journey. I think they are great especially the Devil Survivors series but they dont hold a candle to the Persona series. But Its hard to compared them to each other. Also Persona is not a SMT game anymore, so no is not a "real" SMT game anyway.
@yukiterumi5756
@yukiterumi5756 6 жыл бұрын
was just meming but ok
@AkumaKristian
@AkumaKristian 6 жыл бұрын
There's something I've noticed about real violence vs media violence. Media violence is crafted in such a way to draw a certain emotional response from the viewer. It can be sadness, disgust, vindication or any number of emotions but it's deliberately planned to target a specific few. Real violence though? There's no drama and it's not really meant to get any particular emotional response. You can't predict how people will react to it. Take that first clip you showed with the shooter. It's quiet. There isn't a lot of screaming or noticeable panic. If that situation was recreated in a movie we would be able to clearly see reactions in order to have us empathize with those people. In reality however, there's no way to tell what any of those people are thinking. There's no empathy, just some volume adjusted gunshots at some people we don't know the first thing about. The scary thing too is making it watchable to a mass audience (sound and visual editing etc) gives a sense of sterility about it for lack of a better term. It's difficult to put all my thoughts on the subject into words but hopefully people can get where I'm coming from here.
@Avrysatos
@Avrysatos 6 жыл бұрын
AkumaKristian yes. I get what you mean. and I think you do have a point.
@RAFMnBgaming
@RAFMnBgaming 6 жыл бұрын
I get ya. I don't completely agree though. That guy begging the guy not to shoot in the clip with the shooter was certainly getting an empathy response from me, maybe that's just me though.
@AkumaKristian
@AkumaKristian 6 жыл бұрын
No you are right. "No empathy" was not the best word choice. Though right now I don't know how I could word it better. I was just trying to state my opinion as best I can. Really I take the fact that you do empathize with how he acted in that situation as a good sign. I feel that there are a lot of people who wouldn't honestly. Like I said above it's hard to find the right words to explain myself here.
@EarthboundX
@EarthboundX 6 жыл бұрын
Totally, that guy with the handgun in that first clip, firing at some sort of council meeting is so much more shocking and scary to me than anything I've seen in any game, TV show or movie. There's not even any blood.
@Spike2276
@Spike2276 6 жыл бұрын
there's an old jimquisition about violence in games (i can't remember the title) i belive it was made when jim was still with escapist, in that video he discusses this exact thing, the difference of real violence to fake violence (as presented in movies, tv, and video games) the main thing to take from that discussion is that fake violence is dramatic, there's tortured horrible screams, or heroes who bravely fight through multiple gun/stab wounds to complete one final objective, blood sprays from every wound and pools all over the floor, or as you pointed it might be a different violence which is supposed to draw some other emotion, but the fact is that most stories rely on conflict and violence by it's very nature is a great way to show two or more humans in conflict with each other in that same video he shows a VERY disturbing video of a politician commiting suicide which happened live on TV (can't remember the man's name), and the difference is that there aren't deeply emotional pleas of people falling on their knees begging him not to take his life, the sound of the gun doesn't resound for seconds on end, the blood isn't dramatically spraying from the wound, in fact it's all very dry and not terribly loud, it begins and ends so quickly that there's barely any time for a comotion to happen before he pulls the trigger, and that's what makes it truly disturbing, the fact that real violence is so quick and so unceremonious, and then there is no moment of relief after the fact where the tension comes to a close (which is precisely what happens in the aftermath of violence in movies and games...) and for some added personal experience, i'm from brazil and on a daily basis people watch news of a police raid on the favelas in rio de janeiro, or robbery attempts all over the country, the robbery stuff in particular tends to be brutal at times as they use raw security camera footage at times showing the robbers shooting store clerks or bank guards and even police officers in open shootouts, hell just this month they showed footage of someone getting fucking shot down and then executed in cold blood while on the floor, and video games are supposed to be the stuff that fucks with my sense of what's right and what's not?
@MrSGZone
@MrSGZone 6 жыл бұрын
man if video games translated to real life skills. Id be a black belt in every martial arts and shooting lasers from my hands, a legendary japanese general, and know how to use every close range weapon ever along with being a mass shooting super soldier.
@arlosteiner8382
@arlosteiner8382 6 жыл бұрын
MrSGZone I'd be fairly good with a spear and that's about it
@reapers_scyth3181
@reapers_scyth3181 5 жыл бұрын
I love how literally every *SINGLE* person they chose for that roundtable was not suited for the topic at all.
@erraticonteuse
@erraticonteuse 6 жыл бұрын
Practically speaking, why *would* gamers be more likely to commit mass shootings? You can commit mass shootings in your underwear from your couch, get XP, and loot the bodies in a game. What's my reward for killing people IRL? Sure, everyone would know who I am, but that's not gonna help me upgrade my power armor.
@slaughterround643
@slaughterround643 6 жыл бұрын
That news media montage was actually horribly disturbing... I've played Spec Ops: The Line where I *[SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER]* personally burn civilians with white phosphorous *[END OF SPOILER]* and yet watching that montage disturbed me so much more...
@VictorJeraldo
@VictorJeraldo 6 жыл бұрын
Because those are pixels that we call people, that are designed to look like people. They are just very clever dolls. But when you know in your heart that it's an actual human life ending, that is truly disturbing.
@slaughterround643
@slaughterround643 6 жыл бұрын
I think the guy pleading for his life really also made it worse, but yes I do very much agree
@alexeisamolsky9813
@alexeisamolsky9813 6 жыл бұрын
Add me to the list of people that had to tab out during that montage.
@Koshionos1
@Koshionos1 6 жыл бұрын
Slaughter Round That's probably because you don't mistake fantasy with reality, thus you have a human reaction to real events.
@User71956
@User71956 6 жыл бұрын
Slaughter Round if it's any consolation, I believe actually he survived it.
@Adelun
@Adelun 6 жыл бұрын
Can we please appreciate the irony that this white house decided to show off footage from a CoD mission called 'No Russian' ... I find that hilarious.
@evillecaston
@evillecaston 6 жыл бұрын
How did I not make that correlation? I sure hope the White House isn't planning anything...
@fancypants5782
@fancypants5782 6 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@jrs3739
@jrs3739 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for drawing my attention to this, that's actually hilarious. XD
@mrcheesemunch
@mrcheesemunch 6 жыл бұрын
Doubly funny because it's a mission you can choose to skip because it might be too graphic...but nah there's no ratings or censoring AT ALL Vidya games are a disgrace! We should just shoot them all, guns solve all our problems anyway. All of them.
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 6 жыл бұрын
You don't have to ask, I've been appreciating it since I saw it.
@215Days
@215Days 5 жыл бұрын
"You still watching it because you want to get mad this morning?" I want to get mad EVERYDAY! Why can't we Angry Lads have our own rights to be mad any day, any time, anywhere, everywhere, always!?
@Nikke-nn5mn
@Nikke-nn5mn 6 жыл бұрын
doom doesn't turn people into killers. Doom turns people into nice Christian boys and girls who hate demons.
@Gammera2000
@Gammera2000 6 жыл бұрын
And kill dey asses.
@AegixDrakan
@AegixDrakan 6 жыл бұрын
OH SHIT NOOOOOOO, I don't wanna be turned back into a nice Christian boy! :o
@danielramsey6141
@danielramsey6141 6 жыл бұрын
Announcer guy: Except this time...Your a Christian with a Shotgun! Here to Deliver the Word of God, through a Barrel up Satan's Ass!
@animorph17
@animorph17 6 жыл бұрын
In most violent horror games, you're locked in a room with demons. In doom, the demons are locked in a room with you.
@GenericInternetter
@GenericInternetter 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a long-time original doom and doom 2 fan who always played on ultra-violent, but i'm stuck in doom 2016 on hurt me plenty. That's how fucking hard that game rocks. Then again it might be my slow potato system. Even with everything on minimum, it gets slowdown in big room fights.
@jeremyabbott4537
@jeremyabbott4537 6 жыл бұрын
I am pretty much desensitized to video game violence, but... seeing that man being burned alive... that disturbed me.
@Mrgone454
@Mrgone454 6 жыл бұрын
Could you just imagine the smell alone from it...
@EggBastion
@EggBastion 6 жыл бұрын
*Jeremy Abbott* - Stay away from *50 Cent: Blood On The Sand* then eh. *Mrgone454* - _bad._
@capngibbens
@capngibbens 6 жыл бұрын
what are you talking about?
@prplfleur
@prplfleur 6 жыл бұрын
Seeing that guy get shot shocked the fuck out of me. Although did you see the guy that was featured on an older jimquisition, a guy who shot himself in the mouth in public? That was fucking crazy to watch
@randomcallum
@randomcallum 6 жыл бұрын
Played video games since I was 4 now 27 video games have not made violence more acceptable to me iv all so been watching horror films since I was 7 with my older brother you know what it thought me ? No not to shoot a school how to tell the difference between reality and fantasy -.-
@yourethatmantis5178
@yourethatmantis5178 6 жыл бұрын
I mean Trump is basically attacking at least 1/4 of the people who got him into office in the first place, it must be really hard to support him now. Even my parents who were die-hard Trump supporters in the election make fun of him now.
@FlunderingChipper
@FlunderingChipper 6 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine they're very open about the fact that they voted for him. That must be embarrasing.
@paalbr
@paalbr 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure at least half of those online "supporters" are just Russian trolls.
@jordannoell4222
@jordannoell4222 6 жыл бұрын
Ehh demographically speaking I don't think trump won the under 30 vote, which is also the most significant chunk of gamers.
@eccentricthinker142
@eccentricthinker142 6 жыл бұрын
And the ones who are likely turncoats probably hated the choices they had in the first place. How many still support the angry orange?
@garchompchump9274
@garchompchump9274 6 жыл бұрын
eccentricthinker142 i honestly dont know, and i live in fucking florida, so i shoukd have met a supporter at this rate
@andrewpliakis
@andrewpliakis 6 жыл бұрын
"Father, how was Konami in your days?" "They weren't shitheads." *mind of youngling blown*
@BoulderPunchPodcast1
@BoulderPunchPodcast1 6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Pliakis we got Silent Hill and good MGS games... Do the math
@1nown
@1nown 6 жыл бұрын
It's true. Australia doesn't have mass shootings because our censorship replaced the sex in South Park: The Stick of Truth with a startled koala.
@1nown
@1nown 6 жыл бұрын
(Also because a conservative politician had the nerve to use public outrage to Actually Do Something About Guns but that would be irrelevant, apparently this topic forces me to defend John Howard and I hate it)
@thomasjenkins7506
@thomasjenkins7506 6 жыл бұрын
it's also true that australia still has a ton of guns in circulation. the buy back policy only resulted in murders, rapes, and other violent crime going up for a few years.
@Razor2048
@Razor2048 6 жыл бұрын
The AU gun buyback tacked on prison time if you had a gun registered and did not turn it in. This resulted in a balance of power shift that is more in favor of the criminals. Once that happened, they had a massive increase in violent crime. Gun crime went down overall, but many more people ended up victimized by criminals. The overall violent crime never dropped to levels below the gun confiscation and the level of home invasions while the occupants are still home, increased by multiple orders of magnitude. In areas with high gun ownership by good people, things like home invasions are extremely rare because most criminals are not willing to to break into a house and get killed in pursuit of a used outdated TV and some cheap jewelry. In the US, states with high conceal carry permit holders, and states with constitutional carry, have the lowest amount of muggings, with constitutional carry having the lowest (where you do not need to beg the government for permission to carry a weapon on you). It turns out that criminals are not willing to risk their life in order to get a used and locked smartphone. 98%+ of mass shootings happen in gun free zones, and the exceptions outside of gun free zones are either gang related, or from crazy people going after known armed targets, like the crazy person who went after the police. If the government wanted to solve the issue of mass shootings, they would get rid of gun free zones. People in other countries complain about the gun culture in the US, but if they looked at the crime levels in the US, they would see that if they omit locations like Chicago, NY, CA, and Baltimore, then the US will have the lowest violent crime rate on the planet by a wide margin. (The states with the highest violent crime also happens to be the ones with the most restrictive gun laws which ensure that law abiding people cannot defend them self). Wanted to also add that in the states and cities that enacted strict gun control but did not end up quite as bad as Chicago, they were able to bring crime rates down (but not as low as their pre effective ban levels by massively increasing the number of police, NYC (5 boroughs) spends more on police than the entirety of most states in the US, and that has reduced violent crime over the years, but it is still well above the average for the rest of the country.
@joechief2456
@joechief2456 6 жыл бұрын
+Thomas Jenkins Australia has an increasing number of guns in circulation, but you have to prove that you aren't likely to snap and shoot up the place, that you store them correctly (securely) and that you have a reason to own one to get one, in order to access firearms. Contrast with the US where any asshole can pick up an AR-15 same day in some states (e.g. Florida). It's also worthwhile noting that Australians aren't paranoid as fuck and obsessed with being preppers for the day the government suddenly becomes autocratic, and generally don't get hard and masturbate over the idea of getting to shoot an armed robber or being able to fire wildly into a crowd of people at a perceived threat, so there's cultural differences too, but I would argue that the NRA isn't exactly helping the US's excessively beligerent gun culture either. +Neightrix Prime "natural right" is debateable at best, and even if it were I'd take guaranteed access to universal healthcare in any other developed nation over ridiculously high gun crime rates (which are on top of, not instead of, other crimes), rampant poverty and increasing wage gaps and terrible healthcare in the US any day.
@PancakemonsterFO4
@PancakemonsterFO4 6 жыл бұрын
1nown the German censorship was worse, everytime a nazi zombie raised his arm for the hitlergruss they put a black censor over it wich is lazy as fuck. The swastkas had bars too wich isn’t really surprising
@bigshrekhorner
@bigshrekhorner 6 жыл бұрын
It's OK to not like violence in games. But it is not OK to point fingers at them saying they are the source of all evil
@pres2598
@pres2598 6 жыл бұрын
Toad The Mushroom OK
@t232t
@t232t 6 жыл бұрын
Weird how other countries that play the exact same violent video games don´t have as many mass shootings.
@realpatriot1769
@realpatriot1769 6 жыл бұрын
Its almost as if easy access to firearms causes gun violence, but no that can't be it. Let's blame something completely unrelated.
@sjakierulez
@sjakierulez 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how easy it is, but aren't there a lot of armed people in countries like Russia, Serbia and maybe some other Eastern European countries? Yet we don't hear much from there (could also be kept silent though)
@Angerina_
@Angerina_ 6 жыл бұрын
Video Game sales per person per year: 🎮 Japan = $96.06 🎮 USA = $63.45 Gun deaths per 10,000,000 people per year: 🔫 Japan = 6 🔫 U.S.A = 1016
@haroldsparrow881
@haroldsparrow881 6 жыл бұрын
Why do only mass shootings happen in liberal areas by kids raised by liberal parents.
@jeanhamilton3296
@jeanhamilton3296 6 жыл бұрын
Weird how they don't have mass shooting either . The problem is more complex than that and both guns and video games are part of a bigger problem. What's never mentionned with these studies is that it doesn't give violent tendencies to => most
@Andvare
@Andvare 6 жыл бұрын
Guitar Hero made me a rock superstar. I became so skilled at playing the guitar, that all the rock bands hired me simultaneously.
@NimhLabs
@NimhLabs 6 жыл бұрын
At least they've stopped using footage of Doom being run on a really shitty 486! So... some progress has been made.
@crane8819
@crane8819 6 жыл бұрын
I've been playing The Witcher 3 lately... oddly enough I don't feel a desire to hack people apart with a sword. Maybe I'm doing it wrong?
@paytonkilmer1920
@paytonkilmer1920 6 жыл бұрын
You're definitely doing it wrong. I dodge-rolled out of the way of a mugger and cut him in half. Because that's how it works in real life. You've just gotta try harder, and you'll get there!
@ManUtdBoy13
@ManUtdBoy13 6 жыл бұрын
Been playing NHL and are still waiting for my contract... any day soon they will call me.
@Spike2276
@Spike2276 6 жыл бұрын
idk i've never felt the overwhelming desire to slash people clean in half with a sword, but i do want to bang a sorceress so i guess results might differ from person to person
@shawalzulkifli6060
@shawalzulkifli6060 6 жыл бұрын
Thats odd. For me i have some wierd sensation of playing a card game from a hack and slash game. I think i am doing it wrong.
@Septimus_ii
@Septimus_ii 6 жыл бұрын
I bet you're an expert jockey at this point, though. Video games are great training grounds
@direnova6284
@direnova6284 6 жыл бұрын
No school shootings in Japan, at all, ever. Must be that they don't have video games.
@halowaffle25
@halowaffle25 6 жыл бұрын
ChrisGrump Your comment is doing the exact same you're railing against, painting all americans as assholes...
@CaveManGamer21
@CaveManGamer21 6 жыл бұрын
so the guy who cut down all of his class mate with a sword is better how ?
@CaveManGamer21
@CaveManGamer21 6 жыл бұрын
san do dont worry about everyone hate the USA intell we have to save them . chill
@codybrennan6303
@codybrennan6303 6 жыл бұрын
It's funny to think that a chubby English bloke in a silly top hat is actually a great American patriot; but goddamn is Jim Sterling a great American patriot!
@thesilverw0lf
@thesilverw0lf 6 жыл бұрын
How miraculous that the White House video game violence montage was mysteriously vacant of context... Funny that.
@professorkamen9061
@professorkamen9061 6 жыл бұрын
Did they forget that, y'know, shootings and violence have happened _before_ video games? Like....do they not know history?
@MichaelPohoreski
@MichaelPohoreski 6 жыл бұрын
/sarcasm Oh quiet you with inconvenient facts such as World War 1 and 2 ... *oh wait*
@paradox5939
@paradox5939 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Pohoreski I bet the Nazis had some insane Vidya games
@wheatboi8255
@wheatboi8255 6 жыл бұрын
Ignoring inconvenient facts is the bedrock of the conservative party.
@arlosteiner8382
@arlosteiner8382 6 жыл бұрын
I think you'll find cup and ball has always existed and always trained killers
@ArioDragon
@ArioDragon 6 жыл бұрын
It's easy. That way they wont be blamed on as much. All of this bs is just to shave off some heat from their asses.
@ClockworkBoredom
@ClockworkBoredom 6 жыл бұрын
It's ironic that they chose Call of Duty. The violence presented in COD is an over the top, safer, cleaner representation of the actual real world violence the US government has inflicted on real people.
@lorentzcoffin4957
@lorentzcoffin4957 6 жыл бұрын
Ikr CoD is essentially American propaganda because even the American bad guys are doing their evil deeds for the good of the state. I lol'd really hard when I saw CoD on the list because whoever put that together was a bloody fucking moron.
@emceeunderdogrising
@emceeunderdogrising 6 жыл бұрын
I completely agree 100%.
@thomascooper48
@thomascooper48 6 жыл бұрын
I thought they would stick on grand theft auto on there...
@pfl95
@pfl95 6 жыл бұрын
Yea lol. They're attacking their own fans! Conservatives fucking love that shit
@RemixedVoice
@RemixedVoice 6 жыл бұрын
Jasper Rodriguez Spec Ops: The Line is a US military game, but it's actually fucked up and makes you think, unlike Cod.
@jumblack7684
@jumblack7684 6 жыл бұрын
It's those damned colored TV's i'm telling ya
@Zoltri
@Zoltri 6 жыл бұрын
I think the most telling point of this whole episode was the impact that two scenes had on me. Watching the scene in a game where a good.. 50+ people were gunned down in a public station, killed on mass like cattle, and the first real life clip of someone simply saying "Please don't" before being shot. I've played video games my whole life, and I've seen more fake death then I could count. None of it phases me because I can simply contextualize it's fake. It's like a movie, or a book. You can tell what you're seeing isn't real, and it's something designed for your entertainment. Do I find the idea of people on mass dying in a game to be entertaining? No. Death in video games is something that needs context. It's a story beat, or in the case of something like.. Watching 70 marines get burnt alive by protoss lasers in Starcraft 2, it's a tactical point of the game which isn't the focus. Your marines died, your mindset isn't how cool, or epic that scene was.. Similar to chess, you're planning, thinking about how you lost a vital piece on the board, and how can you recover and strike back? In the other example though, the simple shot of a man being shot in the chest as he nervously begged someone not to shoot him, I felt my blood run cold and I instantly felt more disturbed then I could put into words. You can slice as many people in half as you want in Warframe, you can nuke whole cities into oblivion during a game of Civilization, or fight to a gruesome end in Mortal combat.. But as stated above, all of those games arn't focused on the violence. Warframe you're getting resources, Civ you're playing to gain political power, and Mortal combat you're challenging yourself in a difficult one on one test of skill. Compared to seeing someone actually being shot, none of the violence in those games means anything.
@TyDie85
@TyDie85 6 жыл бұрын
Ah that "most armed man in America" guy also lives alone in a house AND dresses mannequins, has relationships with them, named them... yea... he is insane. Damn I could write SO MUCH. But I will simply say Jim is SPOT ON! I live in the U.S. and I've lived in Australia for a year. Guess where I had a better life and felt safer. Btw, if you want to say "go back to Australia, commie" or some crap like that. Then give me the money and I will GLADLY go back.
@Im0nJupiter
@Im0nJupiter 6 жыл бұрын
Take me with you.
@d_marv3lous237
@d_marv3lous237 6 жыл бұрын
T Timeler if you do go back, you think I could come with you?😢
@DCdabest
@DCdabest 6 жыл бұрын
Man. I wish Australia weren't so keen to become Little America....
@jeremyhearne
@jeremyhearne 6 жыл бұрын
Sadly we aussies have to deal with alot of shit ourselves. But where do i fucking feel more safe? Where i bloody live! I live in WA (Western Australia)
@boxhead6177
@boxhead6177 6 жыл бұрын
You may also be feel safer in Australia rather than America... because we have a public health system.
@YokiDokiPanic
@YokiDokiPanic 6 жыл бұрын
Jim, I have disagreed with you over many a thing when it comes to politics, but when you're right, you're goddamn right. Thank god for you, man.
@CandisClassicGameShrine
@CandisClassicGameShrine 6 жыл бұрын
That real-life footage made me beyond uncomfortable and physically ill. There's a clear difference between real life and pixels and the ones that can't differentiate between the two are the ones trying to make laws it seems. Pretty sure certain mental illness and people just born, "evil" are the ones causing all of this mass violence. Video games are a scapegoat much like books and other forms of media were years ago. It's far easier to place the blame on something people don't fully understand than to put the blame where it belongs.
@Elemental-Phoenix
@Elemental-Phoenix 6 жыл бұрын
dude, the guy begging for his life is going to stick with me.
@shadowrideromega1964
@shadowrideromega1964 6 жыл бұрын
If it helps, apparently the shooter was so bad at shooting that he completely missed everyone. The only person he successfully killed was _himself._ So the man begging for his life actually made it out of that horrible situation. (Full disclosure, I'm basing this on what I've read from other comments on Jim's website, since I am unfamiliar with the story itself)
@CandisClassicGameShrine
@CandisClassicGameShrine 6 жыл бұрын
ShadowRider Omega thank goodness! That was some of the most disturbing pieces I saw.
@shadowrideromega1964
@shadowrideromega1964 6 жыл бұрын
Which, of course, proves the point of the video- people are genuinely distressed at the thought of a real person dying on a scale several magnitudes above seeing a virtual person die. That clip is the most horrifying thing I've seen in a good while despite playing a lot of games and it didn't even actually depict any death!
@CandisClassicGameShrine
@CandisClassicGameShrine 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Gore and violence in games and movies seldom bothers me. Real-life stuff like that legitimately messes me up and distresses me SO much.
@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial
@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial 6 жыл бұрын
the "debate" that never ends, blaming violence in games again edit: holy shit a Right to Censor reference, thank god for Jim
@coreylineberry8557
@coreylineberry8557 6 жыл бұрын
Well... Who else?
@ultgamercw6759
@ultgamercw6759 6 жыл бұрын
The good news is that the next generations are going to become fantastic builders. If fps games cause shootings then all those people who play minecraft are going to be fine at making real life homes for people.
@jamham69
@jamham69 6 жыл бұрын
step 1: Punch trees until fully formed logs land in your infinity pockets.
@gozzilla177
@gozzilla177 6 жыл бұрын
They are not infinity pockets!!!...... You need shulker boxes for that lol.
@NATE-op9tq
@NATE-op9tq 6 жыл бұрын
That explains why 90's kids grew up to be plumbers!
@CrossfacePanda
@CrossfacePanda 6 жыл бұрын
This is totally unrelated to the video, but: Since you posted a random picture from Spooks of Bottle Bay on your Twitter a couple of days ago, I thought I’d point out how there’s a scene from the first episode where the female villain dramatically turns towards the screen and goes “Money!?”. And if that isn’t the perfect clip to edit into Jimquisition episodes where you mention corporate fat cats wanting all the money, I dunno what is :P It’s at 1:29 of this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXKVaod-Zc6nrdU
@YukonHexsun
@YukonHexsun 6 жыл бұрын
I second this as an awesome choice.
@a.c.wrasslinstuff6480
@a.c.wrasslinstuff6480 6 жыл бұрын
you deserve a promotion
@PartnershipsForYou
@PartnershipsForYou 6 жыл бұрын
I just came to laugh at trumptards :)
@OctagonCookies
@OctagonCookies 6 жыл бұрын
Jim should hire you.
@jpxyUA
@jpxyUA 6 жыл бұрын
Also totally unrelated to the video, but; last Friday (8.3) around 100k people came to protest against the government in the Slovak Republic. This was a response to a horrible murder of a journalist and his girlfriend in their own house...
@realsonofmars
@realsonofmars 6 жыл бұрын
Ya know Jim, this video made me realize something. Oh no, not anything about video games not being the culprit, or gun violence in America being fed by the NRA & Firearms Industry and supported by an unwitting ratings-frenzied media, I've been on that page for at least a decade. No, I simply realized I hadn't yet supported you on patreon. Amazing! I thought I had for at least a year now, but no! Well, I fixed that oversight right away. Keep up the great work, and thank god for you, Jim!
@dasninjastix
@dasninjastix 6 жыл бұрын
I was an atheist before this video. But I converted to an unspecified monotheistic religion just to thank god for Jim. At the end of the video I subsequently reverted back to atheism before the tithes were due.
@RAFMnBgaming
@RAFMnBgaming 6 жыл бұрын
See that's your problem, you should have gone for one of the polytheistic ones. That way you get way more god thanking for your buck.
@OverlordZephyros
@OverlordZephyros 6 жыл бұрын
I believe in the god emperor... Here waiting for an exterminatus
@scrotiemcb5858
@scrotiemcb5858 6 жыл бұрын
It seems you've been naughty all the weeks before this one. What do you think the end of these videos are? Some kind of joke?
@clayendfield4850
@clayendfield4850 6 жыл бұрын
Naw, bra... Just go misotheist. That way you can thank gawd for Jim, cancer, Zika, AIDS, Ebola, Partisanship, Religion, humanity, etc... ...And you can express that gratitude with a cynically sarcastic air too! 2x the win factor!
@whycantijusthaveausernameo3993
@whycantijusthaveausernameo3993 6 жыл бұрын
God must exist, how else can I thank God for Jim? Thank God for Jim
@ChibiFlonne
@ChibiFlonne 6 жыл бұрын
As someone who has played videogames since before I have the use of reason I gotta say, Jim, that nothing has desensitized me to violence and crime like the news. Every day or other day you see news about people getting killed, raped, murdered, mugged, etc and at some point it really becomes "oh some rando got shot/shanked, that sucks" in your mind, even if it's wrong or if you don't really believe or feel like that, but that's what it ends up being. Thanks News Media!
@pennclick
@pennclick 6 жыл бұрын
So what you’re saying is, you’d rather NOT know about anything happening because it makes you and you alone complacent. You’re actively wanting to ignore reality in favor of not being desensitized... which goes against itself because you say you don’t want to be desensitized when it does happen. Better to live in ignorance as a Trump supporter I suppose. P.S. you may not be a trump supporter but I and many others would make that blanket assumption when you say “news media” that way.
@JamieMadrox195
@JamieMadrox195 6 жыл бұрын
Lishe I don’t even watch the news. Haven’t in many many years. So much of the news is propaganda laden that I just don’t care to bother. Frankly most of the shit they say on there doesn’t affect me anyway.
@ChibiFlonne
@ChibiFlonne 6 жыл бұрын
@Zant One does honestly get tired of violence in the news, I personally do. I'm neither American nor a trump supporter, I'm just stating a fact as it happens to me and comparing it to what Jim said on his video. To answer to your actual post; I said nothing of the sort, coming in here to be defensive about something that doesn't concern you is pretty tasteless, nice bunch of unrelated assumptions and strawmen though, very compelling and logical argument.
@ChibiFlonne
@ChibiFlonne 6 жыл бұрын
@JamieMadrox195 Yeah I understand that, I don't actively watch the news either, I kinda just end up hearing them when doing something else or hear them secondhand. Most of the news really don't affect me either, and I'm not going to pretend they do either :/ it gets pretty old and depressing to get upset about every bad news in the country or in the world.
@NeoSaturos123
@NeoSaturos123 6 жыл бұрын
So Jamie, you'd rather not be informed of what's going on in the world? And I'm pretty sure you're greatly exaggerating the amount of propaganda. You know where you'll find plenty of it? China, Russia, Cuba, North Korea, Iran as well as communist countries back when the Soviet Union existed. Not in democratic countries.
@fluffygutts2240
@fluffygutts2240 6 жыл бұрын
Between the years 1500-1830 there was a massive number of mass shootings in what is now the USA. What video games were they playing back then?
@tremor230
@tremor230 6 жыл бұрын
Oregon trail?
@petehasplans
@petehasplans 6 жыл бұрын
Frogger
@clumsyturtle8544
@clumsyturtle8544 6 жыл бұрын
Tetris
@paulvonhindenburg4565
@paulvonhindenburg4565 6 жыл бұрын
Fluffy Gutts board games
@DeusExMachina130
@DeusExMachina130 6 жыл бұрын
The most violent and evil of all video games...... hoop and stick!
@eraserrainlantier3040
@eraserrainlantier3040 6 жыл бұрын
Five years ago a Jimquisition titled "Desensitized to Violence" made the best example I've ever seen on how game violence and real life acts of violence are very different. I've unfortunately have seen my fill of violent deaths in real life even before watching that episode and it is spot on in it's point that the two have a huge difference. That was the video that made me a fan of Jim. It's not easy to demonstrate such a point and I've shown that video many times when this argument comes up with people. The reaction people get is astonishing to see. I recommend watching that episode of The Jimquisition before debating this subject no matter what side your on with it.
@ArmelOenn
@ArmelOenn 6 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks you for the mention. I went to watch it right after reading your message and it was indeed a video worth watching. And for those who want the direct link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bajLaoSohamhrJI
@Pro_Triforcer
@Pro_Triforcer 6 жыл бұрын
2:18 Well, you did warn me about disturbing content but...
@MrDrProfessor4
@MrDrProfessor4 6 жыл бұрын
That's gonna be my nightmare tonight.
@Healermain15
@Healermain15 6 жыл бұрын
I needed to sit down for a few minutes after that. Jesus....
@backupplan6058
@backupplan6058 6 жыл бұрын
You want to know what’s more disturbing, I got asked a month ago if I wanted to go see him live later in the year. I politely declined the offer.
@StephySon
@StephySon 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was uhh . . . Oh Jesus Christ
@aesen161
@aesen161 6 жыл бұрын
“The citrus tyrant” Im fucking dead
@glitchyjoe64
@glitchyjoe64 6 жыл бұрын
You wouldent be if he called obama the chocolate tyrant.
@ISAAC607
@ISAAC607 6 жыл бұрын
Joseph Upton The chocolate tyrant sounds awesome
@sharkofjoy
@sharkofjoy 6 жыл бұрын
"Vagina clawing emperor" got me
@sharkofjoy
@sharkofjoy 6 жыл бұрын
@joseph Upton.... but uh.... he didn't?
@frosty6845
@frosty6845 6 жыл бұрын
I love that you brought up Schwarzenegger being a hypocrite, people seem to have forgotten about things like him passing the ban on gay marriage in California when he had the authority to shut it down, these days he has the gaul to present himself as a champion of Gay Rights.
@Wveth
@Wveth 6 жыл бұрын
gall*
@pillarnexustheancientgladiator
@pillarnexustheancientgladiator 4 жыл бұрын
Video games are less than a century old, but violence committed by one human against another has been around for thousands of years; the weapons change, the irrational hatred remains the same. This is a philosophical struggle; politics can only go as far as the philosophy behind it.
@Gammera2000
@Gammera2000 6 жыл бұрын
I really don't get why they kept using footage from games like Battlefield & Call of Duty*, especially that scene where US Soldiers where being tortured by the Soviets. It's violent, sure, but your average mass shooter isn't torturing people, or shooting soldiers. If anything, what they're doing is closer to something from Hitman**. *I believe they just went with the only games they'd heard about. Which all happened to be generic military shooting games circa 2007-2012.
@garbagefreak
@garbagefreak 6 жыл бұрын
Republicans, who love war and start wars whenever they're in power, are responsible for more soldiers getting killed and tortured than anyone else in this country. Maybe we should have a "meeting" about what we're going to do about Republican-inspired violence.
@ThorindirNaari
@ThorindirNaari 6 жыл бұрын
Do not forget the emotional effect of seeing a "fellow US-Citzen" die instead of an North Korean for example. At least that could have been a factor too.
@NimhLabs
@NimhLabs 6 жыл бұрын
At least they are no longer looping Doom on a crappy old 486! My gosh--that well worn clip was getting really hilarious to see. I mostly just started tuning into news programs specifically because they were still using that clip.
@Katy133
@Katy133 6 жыл бұрын
Jim, you may want to know, there's a campaign on Twitter called #LoveInVideoGames where people are posting examples of kindness, compassion, and/or love in video games. It was recently made in response to the "Violence in Video Games" video.
@Avrysatos
@Avrysatos 6 жыл бұрын
Katy133 I seriously just spent the whole day streaming a video game that was made in 2016 that had one violent scene and I didn't even see it. I only saw the injured person after. I guess my killing simulator isn't working well enough
@ouroldhouse3674
@ouroldhouse3674 6 жыл бұрын
Didn't know about that. Actually sounds kinda great!
@KindredBrujah
@KindredBrujah 6 жыл бұрын
Even in Call of Duty and the infamous No Russian scene, you're perfectly at liberty to not shoot any civilians if you don't want to. If anything, we should be retaining stuff like this in videogames, but logging who plays in a particular way and nudging their details towards the FBI so they can be put on a watch list. It's not like them not playing the games is going to prevent them killing people; if they're the sort of person who was going to, then they will.
@timlepo7080
@timlepo7080 6 жыл бұрын
I've had sex with prostitutes in GTA Vice City... Does that count? I've also as a romantic gesture catcalled several female gamers in voice chats... Does that count?
@Katy133
@Katy133 6 жыл бұрын
Tim Lepo I said "love," not "lust." ;) But yeah, GTA Vice City can definitely count! Not only does the game allow players the freedom to solve missions in less violent ways if they want, but the fanbase has also created a ton of mods that let you play as superheroes and detectives and stuff! :D
@HarrisBoe
@HarrisBoe 6 жыл бұрын
It’s like the Trump administration is going out of its way to destroy everything I love. Net neutrality, video games, specific national parks that are important to my career. What’s next, Red Lobster’s cheddar bay biscuits?
@JimSterling
@JimSterling 6 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry, he and the GOP are systematically finding new ways to alienate everybody on earth. Everyone will have a turn in their circus over the next few years.
@hobblesofkarth3943
@hobblesofkarth3943 6 жыл бұрын
yeah too bad the DNC is a fucking incompetent pile of lyng rich shit nuggets looking down on the average citizen and practically did all of trumps job for him to get him elected.....just too damn bad.....
@zulawoo
@zulawoo 6 жыл бұрын
You just gave them another idea!
@constellaespj4398
@constellaespj4398 6 жыл бұрын
Don't give them any ideas.
@MrConredsX
@MrConredsX 6 жыл бұрын
Just 2 more years and i think people will even vote for PewDiePie as long as it's not Trump
@NGEvangeliman
@NGEvangeliman 6 жыл бұрын
I play plenty of violent video games, and I cry when strangers get mad at me. Lat time I was attacked I held the person down as he kicked me in the jaw, and the followed him after he calmed down to see if he was ok.
@BishopHavel
@BishopHavel 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but when you brought up Melissa Henson as "A mother. That's it, she's just some kid's mum", I couldn't help but hear that in Yahtzee's voice. But hearing Yahtzee narrate a Jimquisition and you doing a Zero Punctuation episode is a dream I'm sure I'll never have, but something I'll now always want.
@RAFMnBgaming
@RAFMnBgaming 6 жыл бұрын
I also now want this. Thanks for the content blue balls man.
@Pokefan220195
@Pokefan220195 6 жыл бұрын
I've played too much Warframe, now I'm crossdressing as several robo ninjas and spend hours even days with painting myself in the right color. Also sometimes there's this strange dude in black and red, who's invading my house and trying to kill me.
@sdgdhpmbp
@sdgdhpmbp 6 жыл бұрын
Ugh, fucking normie. I've spent me days playing platformers like Mario & Sonic, fighting games like Street Fighter and King of Fighters and jRPGS like Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy. Now, I'm faster+jump higher than any human in the world thanks to all the shrooms I take and TVs I break. I've never lost a single one-on-one fight because I use projectiles and do insane combos thanks to real people's high hit-stun time. Also, I gain experience and money just by killing anything while I break into people's homes and steal their precious items. Wait a minute... your name implies liking Pokemon... Ohmygod you monster!
@Pokefan220195
@Pokefan220195 6 жыл бұрын
borot man Yes, you're correct. I paint rocks red & white and throw them at random animals. My collection of creatures that I've captured is so massive, that no army could stop it. Soon I'm going to take over the world with Dogs, Cats and even Ducks and nobody can stop me, cause all those animals got the perfect EVs. I also play Animal Crossing which means I go around my town, digging fossils out of the ground and hitting rocks with a shovel until one of them spits money out. And I'm very strong because I can shake every tree I want and see if something like furniture or money falls down from it.
@HiddenGemsReviews
@HiddenGemsReviews 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, the black and red dude who spends his entire week just sending hundreds of thousands of vague emails to people just pushing the 2 key on their keyboards? Yeah he needs a job or something.
@vladmadskilz
@vladmadskilz 6 жыл бұрын
i don't know... jim was dressing up and painting himself before playing warframe
@Pokefan220195
@Pokefan220195 6 жыл бұрын
Hidden Gems Reviews Hm I don't get this reference :/
@ChaosUnfold
@ChaosUnfold 6 жыл бұрын
I played Doom and it never made me want to break out a grimoire and summon demons so I can eviscerate them with a shotgun.
@PixelPigEntertainment
@PixelPigEntertainment 6 жыл бұрын
The Chaos The *PEOPLE* in said games are a different story. GTA doesn't make me want to shoot someone in the head, but when I'm going about my business and someone kills me, and starts harassing me and calling me a pussy because I simply don't want to engage in broken mechanics, then possibly being kicked or ddos'd, *that's* what makes me want to shoot the fucker in the dome. Just kind of like in real life If someone tried slapping you around.
@Choppytehbear1337
@Choppytehbear1337 6 жыл бұрын
The Chaos That does sound fun however.
@musiclover70011
@musiclover70011 6 жыл бұрын
I have always wanted to do that, so i just naturally gravitated towards doom
@ingonyama70
@ingonyama70 6 жыл бұрын
Oh? Just me then? Okay.
@barryscott9590
@barryscott9590 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone else think that it's super fucking ironic, that all the videogames that the Government showed featured a protagonist in the military. Because kids can join the military and actually kill people but having that in videogames is a step too far in the violent direction.
@Nagatem
@Nagatem 6 жыл бұрын
Now it's trumps turn to get dunked on thanks jim It's sad that in this day and age people still think video games cause violence, actually i find not having video games makes me pretty violent
@glitchyjoe64
@glitchyjoe64 6 жыл бұрын
Because hating on trump has become very successful for the nfl and under armor.
@jeremyhearne
@jeremyhearne 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder why i heard that in an alucard voice?
@JadenRockz99
@JadenRockz99 6 жыл бұрын
Have you tried working the shaft?
@pavelavtanski6538
@pavelavtanski6538 6 жыл бұрын
Video games don't cause violence. Lag does.
@curtiseaston1711
@curtiseaston1711 6 жыл бұрын
video games don't cause any major problems
@Tryforlive.
@Tryforlive. 6 жыл бұрын
My little cousin loves shooters and to teach him that he ain't shit and guns are not to be fucked with I took him to a shooting range and let him fire a few rounds (with a proper instructor of course) and it scared him so much he cried like an anime fan on prom night.
@Gurgleschlortz
@Gurgleschlortz 6 жыл бұрын
First gun I ever shot was an M14, that was when I was about 4 or 5 years old. My old man helped hold the gun, of course, but I loved every second of it.
@clayendfield4850
@clayendfield4850 6 жыл бұрын
Good for you. Hope it scared him so much that he decides to fight to revoke the 2nd Amendment.
@Tryforlive.
@Tryforlive. 6 жыл бұрын
Super Canadian so probably not there is no point in revoking the 2nd amendment
@clayendfield4850
@clayendfield4850 6 жыл бұрын
Of course there is! How is my right to life and security more important than your right to own a gun?
@TheBitBlock
@TheBitBlock 6 жыл бұрын
Because an individual owning a gun in their home for protection will not hurt you at all unless you break into their house...
@0subscriberswithnovideos339
@0subscriberswithnovideos339 6 жыл бұрын
Trump be like: hmm which industry makes more money... Guns i think. Ban videogames then.
@MST3Killa
@MST3Killa 6 жыл бұрын
He hasn't banned video games... what the fuck are you talking about?
@daggern15
@daggern15 6 жыл бұрын
MST3Killa They're taking the piss with an over-exaggeration. Don't worry about it too much
@leprechaunluck24
@leprechaunluck24 6 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe nbc had that footage of the one Dude being shot. Please no over and over. That’s fucking haunting
@Sobergrey
@Sobergrey 6 жыл бұрын
What perfect timing, I just made popcorn.
@ferdinand12390
@ferdinand12390 6 жыл бұрын
Sobergrey is there enough popcorn to share? They sure are mounting a shitshow
@Sobergrey
@Sobergrey 6 жыл бұрын
I haven't managed to completely animate the popcorn homonculus yet, but I still have plenty for everyone.
@RadonMax
@RadonMax 6 жыл бұрын
So did I. Do you have a good seat?
@dubspool
@dubspool 6 жыл бұрын
But is there enough in the world?
@Healermain15
@Healermain15 6 жыл бұрын
After that disturbing television montage I think I could use some really heavy alcohol instead.
@TwistedBananaProductions
@TwistedBananaProductions 6 жыл бұрын
"If I could use one word to prove our society hasn't and will never achieve it's true potential, that word would be 'Meetings.'"
@lastandfirstman
@lastandfirstman 6 жыл бұрын
Blaming violence on video games is akin to blaming AIDS on Elvis's "shucking and jiving" or racism on Archie Bunker. If only we can get rid of Snoop Dogg's music then we can finally win the drug war. Sounds stupid? That's because it is. You hit the nail on the head with this one Jim, thank God for ya. Love it when you get political. Jim for Prez (if Canadian Ted Cruz can then so can Jim).
@helios0074
@helios0074 5 жыл бұрын
Oh look at that - the God Emperor blames video games for more shootings. Jim was right. Again.
@oneofmanyjames-es1643
@oneofmanyjames-es1643 6 жыл бұрын
As far as I'm concerned, Monday doesn't start until the Jimquisition comes.
@BillyD3Kidd
@BillyD3Kidd 6 жыл бұрын
This video is great and all, but when are we going to get a Jimquisition Warframe clan?
@alexeisamolsky9813
@alexeisamolsky9813 6 жыл бұрын
There is one. It's on the PS4 though.
@jacksrumgone
@jacksrumgone 6 жыл бұрын
Can we have a Steam group called "Jimquisitors"?
@baconlabs
@baconlabs 6 жыл бұрын
How appropriate that the self-proclaimed "Most Armed Man in America" sounds just like Elmer Fudd.
@evillecaston
@evillecaston 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if he ever blames "dem pesky wibewals" for everything
@misschambers666
@misschambers666 6 жыл бұрын
He also lives alone with mannequins.. the full vid is, a lot
@skywise8
@skywise8 6 жыл бұрын
He talks to those mannequins like they are people... the video is disturbing.
@elltell1990
@elltell1990 5 жыл бұрын
Annnd history repeats itself! Seriously, I felt like the most recent announcement Trump made about violent video games sent me back in time!
@davidcrackel6462
@davidcrackel6462 6 жыл бұрын
If we are taking things from video games out of content then it's my turn “Peace is the noblest aspiration, but, to preserve it, you must be willing to fight.” World of Warcraft these games are more than just the violence in them
@ouroldhouse3674
@ouroldhouse3674 6 жыл бұрын
Oh man, that guy in the car... That's the sort of thing that causes PTSD. How can they just broadcast that? How can a guy stand there and fucking film it? Where's their empathy, their humanity? I've never seen anything like that here in the UK, and I always dread what I'll see on the 10 'O clock news. Jesus.
@billhicks8
@billhicks8 6 жыл бұрын
Here, have a gun.
@Tatchko
@Tatchko 6 жыл бұрын
It was the police officers dash cam, dumbass. He was responding to a man claiming to be suicidal, and tried to talk him down. The guy had soaked himself and his car in gasoline. Obviously, the officer wasn’t successful.
@ShapeshifterOS
@ShapeshifterOS 6 жыл бұрын
Big news companies only care about ratings. Moral implications be damned.
@OddOtter707
@OddOtter707 6 жыл бұрын
Your news must be cheers all the time. What has your government been covering up? Oh. Right all the troops and bombings in another country.
@joeyoh9292
@joeyoh9292 6 жыл бұрын
No you're making that up because you have no explicit videos of those things happening. That's the only explanation. Oh wait, no, it's just that British (and most of the developed world's) media doesn't sensationalise genuine, real, disturbing violence the way that American media does and instead simply tells us about it rather than trying to jerk us off with videos of it.
@CazTheGamerGuy
@CazTheGamerGuy 6 жыл бұрын
7:55 This may be the most important thing Jim has ever said on this show.
@KidSnivy69
@KidSnivy69 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed, FUCK YOU TUCKER!
@cindercatz
@cindercatz 6 жыл бұрын
Caz That the corporate mouthpiece news media promotes violence and chaos? Yep, that's good to point out.
@robertsides3626
@robertsides3626 6 жыл бұрын
He also has the most intense "I'm listening" face on a human being I have ever seen. I swear, everyone must look like flying cheeseburgers in his world.
@prplfleur
@prplfleur 6 жыл бұрын
Never heard of tucker carlson but he does look like a fucking nob
@CNWhatImSaiyan
@CNWhatImSaiyan 6 жыл бұрын
KidSnivy96 Fucker Carlson always looks like he’s having deep, introspective pondering of a knock-knock joke
@InternetzHero
@InternetzHero 6 жыл бұрын
But her emails
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