Jin's parry: Best move in the game or just a gimmick? TEKKEN 7 Breakdown

[@neptunusequester]

Hi everyone. How's everyone doing?

[@woodchucksquirrel]

neptunusequester I'm happy there is a new Neptune video!

[@HavelsRing96]

Glad to see you are alive my dude

[@neptunusequester]

Barely. Let's hang out on twitch. I still want to deliver the promised DLC2 pt, I'll prob announce it here once I'll figure when is the right time.

[@PuppyGirlGang]

Glad to see you are alive as well. Nice video (:

[@HavelsRing96]

neptunusequester awesome looks forward the dlc 2 playthrough

[@II_XenLEGACY]

Parry is everything.

[@LanPodder]

I liked the first video better than the 2nd. First one had tekken music in it and the jin costume with the coat is sexy as hell :D

[@bboymox464]

Wake up mid kick and ir moves < jin's parry

[@franklestk3038]

@@luxnatal He parried reality

[@Phoenix-pb4sm]

So Jin is the main protagonist, has an evil form, and a unique parry. I'm getting a sense of deja vu...

[@karlobicierro7081]

You mean ryu?????

[@Lotuzz278]

@@karlobicierro7081 Shiii I was thinking Meliodas

[@mediaage]

As a Jin main and putting hundreds of hours in this game, I can safely say that the parry is far from being a gimmick as you start to memorize and learn other characters strings and patterns it becomes second nature and you’ll destroy anybody that gets in your way ..

[@h.alimalik8706]

As a Jin main, I use the parry when I'm being pressured or I want to shift the weight of the pressure to my opponent.

[@ryujin______]

parry frame data F0~1 block F2~8 parries F9~18 block F19~30 vulnerable F31~ finished

[@johny51992]

Jun is my main but I have been struggling for a year dont know what I'm doin wrong

[@nukmanhassan6114]

Jin can parry reality

[@hp9685]

Lucky Gamer Leroy: hold my pamp cane

[@hallyuniverse]

Alisa and Geese can parry rage arts as well.

[@shawnjohn5756]

hallyuniverse I was thinking that as well(for Geese anyway,didn't know Alisa could do it as well)

[@richardmoon8367]

Can you block rage?

[@IanLEAU]

It's not used very often in high-level tournament play, even generic reversals are used sparingly. I think the idea of reversal or parry characters is that you don't make that part of your defence the most imperative thing as players will often account for them when throwing high or mid pokes, waiting to chicken or even stopping a string midway to bait it. Parrys and Reversals only make up for less than 3% of your total defence anyway, so to base your entire defence on that feature is counterintuitive. EDIT: I made that percentage up lol But the point is to paint a picture of how small it is compared to everything else you would do on defence.

[@justaduck6879]

IanLEAU I know I’m like a year late but you should watch book play Jin, he uses his parry a lot in tournament

[@lilwaynejr7879]

Hands down one of the best moves in the entire game!

[@haroondanyal5466]

Lil Wayne Jr lol no, hwoarang's backlash holds that title.

[@rangeer9]

hwoarangs backlash isnt that good in higher levels, imo. its extremely slow, it is high and it comes from a stance. the stance makes it easier to predict it, but the high aspect is fucking up the move more than you think. if you just try to learn how to deal with that move, its not becoming op anymore. things like jabs into duck and launch punish, generally high crushes and so on. its a really good move, no doubt, but its also not that hard to counter it if you know what you are doing

[@haroondanyal5466]

Ranger Neun you are right, few days ago i ducked maybe 7 8 backlashes against one hwoarang player and punished it cuz it was very predictable due his stance change.

[@TheJbrown60]

peek A boo ewgf and drag running 2>

[@kakinator2365]

Guys he said "one of" not "the best". Chill.

[@mikhailmikhailov8781]

>tekken king in treasure battle Time spent very productively.

[@novemberraingaming360]

As a Jin main, parry is life for me xD

[@ToastedToast21]

I'm only warrior rank so I use it most when other low rank players are being way too predictable with things like Dragunov Running 2. Don't have to worry about getting clipped from sidestepping too late, just parry and launch.

[@artofadval]

Another tip: Jin cannot punish a blocked get-up 4 (even though it's -12) because he lacks the range to do so, but if you parry it, you can get a free launch.

[@shameermalik4297]

Parrying yoshimitsus suicide stab is so satisfying because the opponent literally just put themselves at a disadvantage for you lol. And now a free follow up

[@V3rg1l]

try using it after a tech roll

[@noonecares2831]

As a jin main I do low parries too, us jin mains don't have much, so we take over what we're good with

[@gibbybibby5031]

You have one of the most well equipped characters this game has to offer, who has a good tool for every situation. Why are many Jin mains such bitches?

[@k1ng_volz905]

My fav use of parry is vs kazumi an her fff2 I get parry zen,1+2 for free 79 damage

[@Allocution_TK]

You mentioned that a lot of strings can be ducked or sidestepped, but I'd argue that a lot of those strings have a smaller window to duck than you would with Jin parry. I think if your opponent telegraphs their moves enough, or if you've caught onto some of their habits, the parry becomes an essential tool to gain advantage over your opponent, especially if you're a defensive player. Also, it doesn't put the same metal stain on your opponent as say Asuka bitch ass reversal does. A lot of people forget about his parry and they feel free to be as aggressive as they want because they dismiss it. I know that I personally alter my style a little bit fighting Asuka because her reversal is kinda bullshit. But that's just my take.

[@highbredsmoke]

Can Jin parrie like a string like thats is fast I notice you can parrie more then once like ryus parrie in street fighter what i wanna know can I parrie like that or is not possible

[@rayto_V2]

For me the best feeling is to parry fff2 dragunov and kill him with the punish at that moment i can hear the M M M M MONSTER KILL KILl KIll Kill kill from ut 99

[@lordfifth4520]

You say you can sidestep or duck strings,but for example lots of strings has safe high or punishable mid endings.In those cases parry can punish both options if they finish the string with one of those 2 option.And if they dont finish the strings you probably wont(or cant) be punished for parry attempt.

[@neptunusequester]

That's a good point. However you can also fuzzy guard, which makes parry an unnecessary risk.

[@lordfifth4520]

You can get heavier punish with parry,and i think its easier to do compared to fuzzy guard.Also if they dont finish the string and you parried,i dont think they can punish you because parry's recovery is fast.You will be at frame disadvantage though,but i can say same thing with fuzzy guard also :D Only problem with parry is timing it so that it will work no matter if they throw high or mid i think.But I might be wrong about it though idk.

[@fariqahlias491]

Why I don't see player use this at tournament?

[@jacoblarson8113]

What is the input for the parryw

[@lazytommy0]

I have a question and im unable to test it myself right now as im out of town. Can jin parry the entire deadly rave sequence from geese rage drive?

[@MichaelSS]

Parrying most of Geese's specials will just cancel the sequence. Geese can't do many of his strings on whiff, and Jin's parry counts as a whiff

[@lazytommy0]

@@MichaelSS broken..

[@Lady-Santiago]

So when are you gonna start uploading underground Uzbek Tekken tournaments, my guy?

[@funcounting]

The champion wins a ram!

[@neptunusequester]

Sadly nothing like that is happening here :/

[@danielandanthony8939]

Not a Jin main. But I picked up Jin for a bit cause he seemed like fun. Players in the blue ranks and greens ranks spam a lot of punishable shit. So instead of just punishing like usual, I’d parry it and go into can can to show off cause why not

[@solitude7328]

what buttons should i press to parry with jin? i dont know the buttons

[@diamondgirls6541]

B1+3 or B2+4

[@nathan24-_-2]

Parry works like a charm against Negan

[@HubrichMindVault]

as a kazuya and negan main, it’s sadly true

[@RonesonAngeloAbug]

also high and mid mixups are nulled by parry. Why choose when you can get both?

[@scougentai9640]

Can jin parry Akuma's hadoken beam?

[@PRODAt3]

The normal hadoken is one parry, red fireball requires more than one since it is multi hit, super I'm not sure, but I think he can.

[@milosaga5450]

@@PRODAt3 Pretty sure Jin can't parry non-solid projectile

[@PRODAt3]

@@milosaga5450 I never tried, Jin isn't my main in Tekken, I just assumed it was like in Street Fighter where you can parry fireballs.

[@milosaga5450]

@@PRODAt3 Well now you know

[@richardmoon8367]

I saw Jin parry with a punch low kick. Is this an automatic parry or did the player use it?

[@checotah1601]

Doesn't leroy also parry rage arts

[@noryzisalive]

There are other moves what you call the best moves: Phoenix Smasher (60 damage instant) EWGF (+5 on block, best launcher of Mishimas) Hopkick (I don't have to explain) -Backlash-

[@kakinator2365]

Backlash is trash at mid and high levels.

[@noryzisalive]

Kakinator but the damage... after sky rocket

[@kakinator2365]

@@noryzisalive Those are some big ifs though. Doesn't really constitute one of the best moves in the game.

[@noryzisalive]

Kakinator Fine.

[@10_Bit]

Favourite way to use my parry is to stop my opponents from using rage arts in neutral lol

[@shawnjohn5756]

I love to spam parry against my brothers so that I can always launch them

[@capitansandalia377]

With Jin I parry the Miguel Rojo One Punch K.O Move

[@vasilisgreen]

i don't think this move is viable in an actual match, none's gonna let him throw that punch.

[@gsfovg]

Jin is the best on defense, the worst on hand to hand combat and medium on combos. The best Jin parry the best plays

[@kakinator2365]

He's a poking character - that's what he's best at.

[@h.alimalik8706]

I agree,I feel he suits players that like to play defensive and wait for openings.

[@h.alimalik8706]

With his mental alertness 2 crushing highs and having a launcher coming out from it. You really need to have patience

[@farhanasharmin8997]

Marduk's Parry is my favourite. Don't know why

[@josephsua7246]

When I’m stuck at the wall, and the opponent frame traps me, a simple dick jab and then parry always works lol

[@SyckestBlah]

I am not a Jin main, by far not, but I love parries in general. There was this one time, when in a very small, very local tournament, I played as Paul against a long-time Jin main, and an observer said that I was parrying way more often than the Jin, who is known for his parry. I also parried more often and reliably with Bryan than the Jin did. So yeah, I'd say, even though there might not be any actual advantage most of the time to the alternatives, I'd still try to parry the shit out of everything, and likely wouldn't do too bad, neither. (Fun fact: during the end of TTT2's lifespan, I tried so hard to become a top tier Wang because of his Neutralizer, but the rest of the kit was not meant for me...)

[@neptunusequester]

Jin's parry is kinda hard to use since you don't get guaranteed follow-ups. That being said it is safest parry in the game.

[@mechaman5000]

Something tells me you'd love SF 3rd Strike

[@RonesonAngeloAbug]

I think parry is useful on a downed opponent then waiting for his get up kick. I just parry mid then buffer low parry. win-win =D

[@xenvj]

others dont even do getup kick. they just press b or sideroll

[@diftq8191]

wait which move is his parry? the d3+4?

[@shahtayyib]

b1+3 or b2+4. Also df1+2 for parry punch, but is much quicker

[@princesssweepzzt5502]

If Wang was in the game Jin's parry would be nothing special

[@rinneganrebirth4150]

But too bad he isn't xD

[@MaadLuck]

gimmick? my asss. try doing anything like stepping or block punishing hei ff2

[@maxkingfury2391]

Then came leroy

[@slayer123bio]

As a Jin main, Jin's parry only becomes busted when dealing with pokes. I only truly discovered this when fighting Noctis. The stuff you can parry on noctis is insane and he kind of telegraphs his pokes but usually the range on them and the push back make them safe. Not so with Jin, he eats noctis alive. In my experience he becomes broken when you can parry pokes and he's stupid when you can parry moves that are only safe due to push back.

[@mechaman5000]

I like his parry, but I prefer df1+2 on poke counter because it simply looks bad ass

[@TINGcon]

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[@alanzielinski1835]

Bro you don't know what you are talking about as a jin main It saved me countless times and is not a gimmick you just need to have a fast reaction time and parry rage art you say is useless come one it wins matches man if you parry an rage art and lunch punish you can eat half life bar with it no hate man but from what you said your not using full potential of jins parry

[@dewshorts41]

but i am bryan player?

[@DMZdelinquent]

You want call it a gimmick when you're plus and I 12 frame or launch =]

[@MaccusFNS]

Parry=RIP noctis

[@Tewfurt]

Parry to RA.

[@hushwonder2070]

Two of the best moves in the game belong to Yoshimitsu. B+3/B+4 and Flash You could make an argument that both of these are better than Jin's parry.

[@gibbybibby5031]

B3 and b4 get clipped by homing moves and flash is only as good as the opponent you are going up against. If a player always takes his plus frames against yoshi, he deserves getting flashed. Besides from that flash is -15 on block and around -40 on whiff. Recently someone made a list of the 100 most broken moves in tekken history and none of yoshis moves made it.

[@hushwonder2070]

@@gibbybibby5031 B3 and B4 damage you, giving yourself rage at low health, as well as getting you out of sticky situations where you'd otherwise need to block. Plus, just because there is a weakness doesn't mean the move is bad. In most situations, spinning is broken. Flash isn't "only as good as your opponent". I dont get where that opinion comes from. Flash is only as good as the player using it. It's insanely punishable, but if you're using it correctly, these problems aren't an issue. Watch Eyemusician. Best Yoshimitsu in the world. He's in Korea, has played against many of the best, and beaten many of them as well. He's an absolute menace, and if he can't convince you Flash is broken, you're mad.

[@gibbybibby5031]

@@hushwonder2070 Please Tell me who you Main and at what rank, before I go in deeper with this. If you think eyemusician is the best yoshi you are definitely a casual, there are still players like kari, kaneandtrench, apo and sajawal. Not saying he is not a god with the character, but he is probably not the best just the most flashy one at the highest level.

[@hushwonder2070]

@@gibbybibby5031 the fact that he's at the highest level tells you he's the best. The fact that he can perform in tournament's tells you he's the best. Just because he's flashy doesn't mean he isn't effective. Flashy or not, he wins. There are other amazing Yoshi players, but few as accomplished as him right now. I don't play online anymore, but was fujin last time I did. Peaked emperor. Even if I was a 'casual' by your standards, anyone can see the success he has in comparison to others, can see how effectively he uses those moves, and see how other pros talk about him. Pros know more than we do, and if they're saying he's the best, he probably is.

[@gibbybibby5031]

@@hushwonder2070 You. Didn’t tell me who you main. All of the players I mentioned play at the highest level. And if it comes to results, kaneandtrench has made more top 8 in tournaments besides not beeing active at times. Also he performs better against players like knee and jdcr. Eyemusician tends to freeze up against them, cause he can’t bs around. Against people who know the matchup yoshi doesn’t have a lot of real mixups. Like his wall oki with sword sweep and cd1, which is pretty disgusting and the most broken thing he has imo. But guess wrong against a player of that caliber and you are dead. Kaneandtrench can play fundamental at the highest level of play with a character who isn’t fundamentally strong, but people but seem to appreciate that. I won’t call any of them the best, because we will never know, as some of them are way less active.

[@diamondgirls6541]

You like color yellow lol

[@TheGlassMan]

Low parry u can punish anyone lmao

[@nemesisprime2993]

Jin need to get back his blade from Tekken 4 and 5.... most of those fake and into another move are too slow and need to go.... get rid of them and make Jin the fighter he needs to be.

[@rankarat]

Ugliest tekken character ever after lars/bob in TT2. Namco do everything for you.

[@DMZdelinquent]

Gimmick?! FOH

[@TheLastofThugs]

Jin has too many benefits. He's over privileged

[@AnWon2012]

The Last of Thugs how so?

[@TheLastofThugs]

AnWon2012 there is so much to say in the messages. When I fight him his attacks and dodges always beat mine out. There are plenty more.

[@rinneganrebirth4150]

I main jin and there's a lot of problems with using him lol

[@StudioYT6ix]

Blood Wolf me too, ALOT of problems...