JINJER - "Cloud Factory (live)" reaction

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[@danielbeck9310]

This song is actually about environmental pollution, mainly from corporations. The title is describing all the smoke coming from industrial factories, creating clouds like a "cloud factory".

[@VocalCitizen]

I see... I do love the myriad ways poetry can be received, depending on the ears it lands in. After reading your comment, I went back in for a second listen and I totally get your point. Thank you!

[@sandrloparyov9914]

That's right)) Intelligent polyphony...))

[@ThePizzablogger]

Very, very few bands have so much promise in the light, while being able to delve so deeply into darkness.🤘

[@VocalCitizen]

I see you’re a poet yourself…

[@MRxMADHATTER]

I love her outfits. Highlife crop top and MJ pants. MORE JINJER!!!

[@VocalCitizen]

I love it... MORE COMING THIS WEEK

[@stephaneg.7373]

Looks like you are a deep Jinjer fan ❤

[@VocalCitizen]

Precisely... 💃🏼💕

[@tn_bayouwulf2949]

Oh boy! Gonna get some old school Jinjer today! Party on, VC!

[@VocalCitizen]

My brain is a constant party...Thanks for poppin' in...

[@cjjoe2385]

Old school Jinjer is the best 💪

[@VocalCitizen]

Well, I'm the new kid in the School of Jinjer... I'm so jazzed up.

[@frankh9600]

Yes, Jinjer deserve a full exploration. For me there is only one f***ing song in their whole catalog I don't get warm with (Ape) but even this dirty licker is darn good.

[@jeffwellman2883]

From the same concert "Bad Water" (Live, Napalm Records) is another great performance. Please let it play through the outro for a great bass solo.

[@VocalCitizen]

Awesome. I've added your request to my list!!! I look forward to the ride.

[@whispermason8052]

Tatiana said they were driving by an industrial area and the smoke stacks looked like they were making clouds, a cloud Factory. Tatiana is an absolute boss. The band is borderline virtuosic. The Drummer Vlad, he's a concert trained pianist. There's a video floating around of him playing Rachmaninoff.

[@VocalCitizen]

I love this information!

[@burtvanderboom]

Yesss! I can't wait..!! Hope you like it!!

[@VocalCitizen]

Can't wait! See you in the premiere chat!

[@stangriffinstan_the_alaska9668]

And im back its jinjer time this is my other favorite song 😊 I'll wait for you to do outlander . By the way its just going to get better their library is one of the best I've ever heard.

[@VocalCitizen]

Outlander is coming, my sweet. I'm loving the ride thusfar.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

A great early Jinjer song is Destroy. It was originally a song by the founding (male) vocalist but he got a chance to join a band in the US (or at least moved to the US and is currently in a band in the L.A. area) then Tati was recruited and she brutally owned the song. Best sound is the Beastarium recording session video from 2012. There's two verses where the original recording had alternating clean and growled lines cut together but Tati... well, you'll just have to see for yourself. ;)

[@VocalCitizen]

Way to hang the bait.... Ok, I'm in. ON THE LIST!

[@chrisflaim8257]

I suggest Waltz also live at Beastiarium 2011 along with Scissors from their first EP Inhale, Do Not Breathe. If you want to know anything about Jinjer go to Ukrainian Metal Bands channel they have old & new interviews subs available for those older ones & old songs performed by Tatiana like Abyss, Angels & Destroy from the first singer Maksym Fatullaiev demo EP. Even a song played just once from Inhale, Do Not Breathe, called Ojects In Mirror Are Closer Than They Appear, which also was the name of the demo EP.

[@ericpeterson7512]

@@chrisflaim8257i was privileged to see Maksym perform recently with his band Evermorphing when they opened for Jinjer in Milwaukee. Excellent band, excellent energy, excellent vocals! And that dude has some long ass dreads! He said it was the first time they had ever performed in America--they're from Ukraine. The bassist was absent, having had a visa problem. Even so, they sounded great!

[@VocalCitizen]

I love LISTS!!! You're a beast.

[@VocalCitizen]

I'll bet that was a friggin' BLAST!

[@palladinodessa8988]

Luvin' your Jinjer reactions and your candor in them. Keep on keepin' on m'lady!

[@VocalCitizen]

Thank you. That's sweet... I plan to keep on... I'm so glad you like my content.

[@travisworthington525]

I'm gonna suggest it again, OUTLANDER has to be on your Jinjer Playlist...it will be one of your favorites...I promise! Loving you Jinjer reactions by the way!

[@VocalCitizen]

Outlander will be filmed today and dropped before the weekend. Thank you for watching!!!!!

[@module79l28]

Here you can see Tatiana showing her belting rock-style vocals, inspired by Sandra Nasic, singer of the german band Guano Apes. 🙂 If you're going to go all the way down the "rabbit hole", you might as well add all the guitar, bass and drums' playthroughs. They're spread throughout Jinjer, Napalm Records and OD Guitars YT channels. I think you'll enjoy watching more in detail the intricate work these guys do, that it's usually hard to notice in the music videos.

[@frankh9600]

Going Apes in November, Munich Muffathalle ❤

[@VocalCitizen]

I have a whole day planned for the playthroughs.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

@@VocalCitizen dammmmmmm!!!

[@VocalCitizen]

Why wouldn't I, after all the fuss I make about the drums?

[@j.f.fisher5318]

@@VocalCitizen right? The guys get overshadowed so they need to get their own spotlights.

[@Raul-vl7ly]

Fun fact- Eugene (bass player) lost over 40 pounds during the pandemic shut down by cutting out all alcohol and practicing jujitsu 🥋

[@VocalCitizen]

Holy balls... well, yeah, I guess those steps would do it. P.S. I DIG fun facts. drown me in them.

[@module79l28]

Fact Check: Eugene was already practicing (Brazilian) Jiu-jitsu long before the pandemic. He has said in several interviews that when they were on tour he'd always check if there was a gym nearby so that he could practice on their days off. He even got Tatiana to start practicing it too but like in so many things in her life (which she has no trouble admitting to), she got fed up of it and stopped. 🙂

[@VocalCitizen]

She sounds like me... LOL That's so dope. I would've loved to learn Jiu-jitsu, but my flawed physique wouldn't allow for it. It's a fascinating art, using others' leverage against them. I enjoy watching competitions on YT.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

@@module79l28 yeah he used to post pics on IG with the various schools he was visiting to train on tour. And earned silver in the Kyiv qualifying tournament for Abu Dhabi one year.

[@VocalCitizen]

:::eats popcorn while eavesdropping on this thread:::

[@chriso6719]

First album title track , released 2014 , back when they still were a 5 piece. They've rearranged these older songs for the current 4 piece lineup. Last original member, rhythm guitarist Dmitriy Oksen, left in 2015 to pursue acting. He has appeared in Jinjer music videos since, including "Disclosure" from the Wallflowers album. Since you are enjoying Jinjer , you might like to check out Spiritbox. Think you'll love Courtney's vocals too. If interested , suggest "Jaded" to start.

[@VocalCitizen]

SWEET!!!! I love new band mentions. On the list!

[@frankh9600]

​@VocalCitizen Yeah, Spiritbox are something special. But you can go directly to Spiritbox' harder stuff. I recommend Rule of Nines one take vocal performance, or quick, hard, dirty Holy Roller OMV.

[@VocalCitizen]

Noted. I can't wait.

[@ericpeterson7512]

@@VocalCitizenagreed, next to Jinjer Spiritbox are one of my favorite bands, and are close in genre. Courtney is an amazing singer. I recommend you check out their recent EP, The Fear of Fear, which is sa brilliantly interconnected flow from one song to the next, the end wrapping around to the beginning again. Brutal and beautiful. I have a whole list of cool female-fronted metal bands that I've discovered recently (Jinjer was my gateway drug to the world of harsh/extreme vocals). Jinjer is the best. But there are some other excellent examples out there. You might try Ankor, Future Palace, Monochromatic Black, brand new band Gore., or my personal favorite: IKINÄ from Finland. They have TWO badass female singer/screamers who both cover a similar range as Tatiana--and they do it in harmony! Try their video for Rituaali from their recent eponymous album.

[@VocalCitizen]

Just makin' my list more epic...

[@brutalshow3364]

🤘🇺🇦🤘

[@VocalCitizen]

🇺🇦💙🇺🇦

[@ZachComa]

If you noticed, the guitar/bass sounds a little higher pitched because it's in drop C rather than drop A. All songs written from King of Everything album and after are in drop A. Who is Gonna Be the One was also in from the Cloud Factory album, but they changed it to drop A for live, but kept this one as it was in drop C. They stopped playing anything in this tuning (and most songs from the Cloud Factory album) around the pandemic. I saw them in '19 and they did an instrument change mid-set to play songs from both eras. An easy tell if it's a drop C song is Roman is playing an OD Rhea (as seen here) and Eugene is playing a 4 string bass instead of a 5.

[@VocalCitizen]

I love technical geek speak.... keep it coming. You're educating me...

[@module79l28]

@@VocalCitizen - Let me add that the reason they stopped playing the drop C song regularly was because after the release of the Micro EP and the Macro album (which were released in the same year), they had to promote the newer songs plus the King of Everything "hits" and it made no sense continuing to play old songs.

[@VocalCitizen]

That was probably the logical course.

[@vshcode9524]

I'm loving your reactions to Ginger more and more.🤘🤘

[@VocalCitizen]

Thank you so much... for loving them AND for taking the time to let me know. #BossLevelSh!t

[@gtrsean2429]

Tatiana and Vlad were drinking buddies back then. She stopped drinking two years ago though. Her and Vlad's routine was to drink a shot of Vodka every 10 min. starting 30 min. before the show. They downed their third Vodka right before they hit the stage. 🥂 💙💛

[@VocalCitizen]

Good grief… that’s an excess of shooting… I prefer cannabis… no hangover and you wanna eat, rather than 🤮.

[@gtrsean2429]

@@VocalCitizen It's only three shots Deb. 😁 The guys like to toke but, not Tati. Even though she was wearing a High Life outfit. When you get to their Retrospection OMV you'll see a B-Day cake they made for Vlad in the shape of an Absolute Vodka bottle. 🤣

[@VocalCitizen]

I'll look for that. Everyone has their preferences... no judgments...

[@lucianrusu4037]

Yes! The best ❤

[@VocalCitizen]

So freakin' good, man... I can't stop listening to it~

[@lucianrusu4037]

@@VocalCitizen I know 😆 same here🤟

[@VocalCitizen]

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[@lucianrusu4037]

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[@lucianrusu4037]

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[@Jinjer13]

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[@VocalCitizen]

Gern geschehen, mein süßer Herr. Vielen Dank fürs Zuschauen!

[@claudiocunha7672]

Excellent reaction...... Thank "Scissors", old song from them, The drummer was different at that time

[@VocalCitizen]

My absolute pleasure. Did I f*ck up your name??? 💜

[@claudiocunha7672]

@@VocalCitizen no..... You said my name correctly

[@VocalCitizen]

HOORAY!!!

[@oldmanjimh3165]

Did you see her try to distract Vlad near the beginning?

[@VocalCitizen]

I saw the shimmy but didn't realize the mega-show was on the front end. LOL

[@frankh9600]

lol🎉😂

[@oldmanjimh3165]

@@VocalCitizen Shimmy! She lifted her top. Vlad stayed calm.

[@VocalCitizen]

Always a nice surprise for a man...

[@VocalCitizen]

Vlad's a pro... I noticed on my second viewing that his eyes didn't bug out or anything. Solid guy... LOL

[@meidasmightyJESSICAT]

Hell yeah ❤🤟🤟

[@VocalCitizen]

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AT A JOB INTERVIEW!!! WHAT'RE YOU DOING IN MY COMMENTS?! 😂😜😂

[@meidasmightyJESSICAT]

@@VocalCitizen Haha! I listened to the premiere on my way to the interview… then commented before I went in! 🙄🤣🤘

[@VocalCitizen]

Because you're a boss level b!tch. 💕

[@coder4liberty]

I wouldn't say Tati is a rabid atheist. She is of the generation from Ukraine which is most likely to ask the question "if there is a God as you say why do these things happen to people?". She and the rest of the band have all seen a lot and if even if someone thinks they have an answer for them it's going to be hard to convince them. In that vein one of the lines in their song Mediator is about her wanting to grab God by the beard and drag him down to the dirty streets to see what's going on. She has said in interviews that she loves Christmas time festivities and decorations. Most die hard atheists I've seen couldn't tolerate any of that anywhere near them. I'm guessing that she has the same view I have of it all. I hate what human beings sometimes do with religion, not necessarily the idea of it or the people who practice it and are good to others.

[@VocalCitizen]

I love everything about this comment. Coder, you're always spot on in your assessments. I dig that about you. Thanks for the clarifications. Remember, I'm a voracious student of all things Jinjer, and I'm loving the education...

[@tomislavkosanovic1104]

Not willing to enter any religious debate, just to point out some things. 'If there is a God..' sentence you mention is a question any freethinking young individual is bound to pose to himself, has nothing to do with generations. As for the 'atheists that don't tolerate Christmas festivities and decorations', I think you'd be surprised how many people do just that, enjoy the feeling of family reunion and belonging to something greater than themselves, me being the first and I know a fair amount of people that do the same without believing in any deity.

[@coder4liberty]

@@tomislavkosanovic1104 Okay first of all I didn't suggest all atheists are that way. I am talking about militant/overbearing atheists which I contend Tatiana is not. Secondly I said the band is of the generation FROM UNKRAINE which is more likely to ask that question primarily because of the horrors due to war in their country they have seen and experienced. No American and a great many others have any concept of what that is like and how it makes one question why bad things happen to good people. There are Russian Orthodox priests on the Russian lines blessing artillery shells before they are shot at Ukrainians including civilians. Literally nothing anybody in the west experiences holds a candle to that kind of insanity. So I think you missed the point of what I posted.

[@module79l28]

@@VocalCitizen - One big clue is the phrase at the end of the 2nd verse of I Speak Astronomy: _"If there is a God out there, he is just a guest"_ _"Sitting in his spaceship, observing the parade"_

[@VocalCitizen]

I know many atheists who still enjoy the camaraderie of religious holidays. I find joy in that, knowing that they're not shunning the practice, just the origins... I believe faith is super personal and no one views it the same as another, so no one has the right to judge anyone's belief systems. I think ALL religions have the names of deities and the stories wrong, but you'll notice the basic story lines are ubiquitous across world religions, so there's truth in there somewhere, despite the differences. To each his own... In my view, as long as you're not a d!ck about things and don't victimize or otherwise hurt people, you're good in my book.

[@xenthxenth]

'mental over drums' and no meshuggah or tool reaction ?

[@VocalCitizen]

I cannot react to Tool because Maynard is one of my spirit animals. I don't do fake reactions. And I've never heard of Meshuggah... How about providing a song title? That would be most helpful...

[@xenthxenth]

Sad for tool because Danny Carey is really one of a kind. Concerning meshuggah, drum speaking you could try 'clockworks' kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6mqn2mnmq97ma8, or 'nostrum" kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4G6YXSNedKZgLM, two videos centered on the drummer (thomas haake).

[@VocalCitizen]

Got it on the list now. Thanks.